Given that whoever took the video knows who Roz is and not Joe, it seems like a safe bet that this wasn’t in Joe’s dorm room. Also, while Roz may or may not put a whole lot of emotional ties to her sexual activities, it’s really unlikely she’d call any lover of hers “some douchebag.” Unless this is someone re-uploading the video and I’m missing/forgetting some context for when this actually happened, the most likely person to have made this video is Mary.
Nah. Clearly it’s a porn site like redtube. I think Walky’s constant teasing about her being horny got Joyce at least curious about porn. Not sure it’s a good first porn experience if she knows the people in it…
Not sure if any for free porn on the internet can be a good first porn experience. 90% is rape porn, teacher-student-porn, and 99,9% has abhorrent ideas what women are and want.
Lots of it is the insidious sort where the women says no and stuggeles and than enjoys it, which is the worst sort in my view.
Same with gay porn, as far as I saw.
Hmmm. I see a research project. Wonder if I can get a grant. 🙂
Anecdotally, I doubt it’s that high. If nothing else there’s plenty that’s just sex, without even that much of a storyline. It is a disturbing amount and I’d agree that that more insidious sort is worse in some ways. At least in the being used as an example sense.
Uhh, I usually don’t go to YouPorn, but looking at the front page, of the 28 videos it’s trying to get me to watch, ONE of them is the student/teacher thing, which I will agree is gross, and then two are incest, which I find also gross, but the other 25 all look enthusiastically consensual.
I’m not trying to say that you didn’t see what you said you saw, and I’m not even trying to say that porn is a healthy and fair industry to women, but, maybe one look at the front page isn’t a good way to find out what percentage of porn is rape porn?
@thejeff
I actually recall a grad-student I worked under at a university writing center conducting a similar subject. I just remember both of us being at work, and when no clients were around, she would be diligently typing away, meticulously tagging and categorizing porn videos into a huge spreadsheet database.
I think those stats are way off.
They’re PROBABLY pretty close to stuff that’s easy to find though, without looking for stuff that’s specifically queer friendly, feminist, alternative, kink (without the dom/sub aspect) etc. So I can definitely see why you would come to that conclusion.
Stuff like crash-pad series or slipshine cost money. To find it, you have to know what to look for and have a credit card ready. Youporn and other sites of its ilk are comparably easy to find and free, so they are the most likely sites someone who’s unsure about the whole thing will first peak at.
And it’s a really bad place to start, if the aim is to feel good about being sexual. At least if you are a woman.
I can’t check what’s to see on the first page auf yp right now, as I’m in a public hotel LAN, but only one out of 28 videos being rape sounds totally unlikely to me.
You’re making an argument based on trying to feel good about being sexual? There’s the entire problem with your argument, you don’t need to bring up specific genres, most live porn isn’t meant for something feelgood like that. You’d be looking for something more passionate and less rough or roleplayish and it’s not as popular a genre, so it wouldn’t be recommended on the front pages. Some sites, or at least Pornhub, have a “for women” genre that you can find those kinds of things more. At the end of the day though, if you’re looking at porn of all things to try and make yourself feel better about sex, you’re looking in the wrong place.
Also, those sites tend to look at your IP to see the country you’re in and recommend based on what’s popular in that country until you watch stuff yourself to make different recommendations. I might be wrong but “auf” is making me think you’re in Germany? That just tells me a lot of Germans like rape porn.
This probably isn’t her first time down this particular rabbit-hole; remember her career as the Ding-Dong Bandit–she had to go online to research accurate reference models. I can guarantee that during that period, she saw more than just a single dong. She may have even seen this video before, and then come back to it now because thoughts are evil.
Omae wa mou shikima! (お前はもう色魔!) seems more appropriate, if that last part (色魔) actually has the meaning I’ve been lead to believe (“horny” as in sexually aroused). Meanwhile Omae wa mou poruno! (お前はもうポルノ!) feels particularly badly forced as a use of either language and as a use of the meme even if it has a certain accuracy in terms of fanworks. I don’t recall Willis ever doing anything quite like that with either universe’s version of Joyce, but I have seen some fanart before that absolutely has.
Ehhhh. Shikima gives me “sex maniac”, and mou is an adverb (so you wouldn’t apply it to a noun). You can probably verb the noun with suru, but I think it would be clearer with ero (in katakana, loanword from erotic).
mou ero shita, if you were going for “she’s already X”; ero shi-sugita if you were going for “she’s too X”, and ero shichatta (shite-shimatta) if you just wanna say “she’s (unfortunately/completely) X”.
Thank you. Between the various resources I checked there were a handful of meanings for “shikima” and that was indeed one of them as were “devil” and “horny”. I’m only even aware of the term due to being told it has the meaning I mentioned above well over a decade ago by someone I trusted to be knowledgeable and had to work back from the romanji. My Japanese language skills are a travesty, I know.
I had a response to this, but I suspect the inclusion of unicode Japanese characters may have either made the comments script choke on it or sent it off for manual moderation by Mr. Willis. Apologies to him for creating possible extra work if that is what happened.
So does Willis still have registered that one creepy website Faz set up back in Shortpacked? I forgot its whole title, just that it was something about buying extra domain names and a dick joke because Faz made it based off suggestions com Mike, and was… well, creepy.
Joyce’s parents met at College in the DoA-verse so doubtful. Given how anal Carol is about her Christian upbringings I can’t see that happening for her. Hank is more relaxed so there’s a slight chance he had some pre-marital Hank-y Panky.
Pretty sure they met at college – or at least attended college together – in the Walkyverse, too. Same college as here, in fact; it’s one of the reasons that the first Walkyverse comic (Roomies!) was also set at IU.
(The other big reason being that IU was where Willis was in college when Roomies! was first being published in the school paper.)
You sure it isn’t her just putting up a front out sexually shaming herself for probably having intercourse before marriage? She could just be shaming the act of pretty-marital sex as in some matter of projection much similar to some cartoonishly far leaning homophobic people being rarely closseted.
Hell I bet even Mary’s having a go at it right now with that one guy.
A lot of (most?) US Christian fundamentalists didn’t grow up that way, but became worse over time, and raised their children to avoid the “mistakes” they made themselves in the past.
I can’t shake the feeling that Willis himself has said that she was much more relaxed once, and became the way she is over time. I really do think he’s confirmed that but for the life of me I can’t remember where.
I mean even over the course of the strip we’ve noticed those changes coming to pass; when your ideals aren’t called into question you don’t need internal conflict to evolve in response to external conflict. (Heh, evolve). Joyce has specifically mentioned how difficult it is to be around people who can indulge in the temptations she’s afraid of without feeling bad in her conversations in relation to discovering carnal aspects of Dorothy and Walky’s relationship; and she’s also notably freaked out when she discovers other things -like atheism – that she grows comfortable with later but at first struggles with because she’d never been exposed to them (for sex in particular and her own sexuality it’s probably gonna be much more difficult, however; Joyce rn is trying to hold on to her religion as a conscious choice; actively fighting change for fear of losing herself, which seems to be harder for her than changing in the name of love for others)
IANAL but I think legally it would be simple battery. Battery is physically acting on another in a criminal manner. Assault is basically creating a reasonable threat of battery.
Canadian criminal law is weird and lumps battery in with assault (so in Canada there’s a crime called “assault causing bodily harm” which most other places would be equivalent to aggravated battery, although our civil law does distinguish between the tort of battery and the tort of assault), but most other jurisdictions separate battery from assault.
It wouldn’t be sexual battery because sexual battery involves touching someone’s intimate parts either with yourself or with an object. Dan’s foot was involved. Sleazy as hell, and totally not ok but probably not sexual battery.
That said though I’m not a lawyer so what do I know?
All three of the songs are older than Bill Monroe. But if you’re going to hack the muzak, you’re going to need to choose a recording.
I particularly like the Doc Watson’s Rising Sun Blues as an example of the folk tradition of playing mix-and-match with tunes and lyrics. (Not that Watson changed anything, but that different singers sing the same lyrics to radically different tunes.)
Interesting. Those lyrics were familiar to me from Charlie Daniels’ “The Devil Went Down to Georgia,” but it makes sense, now that I think of how that song is constructed, that he borrowed that bit from a well-known bluegrass tune.
Ugh. I remember way too clearly from back in my “born again” days that irresistible curiosity mingled with the bitter aftertaste of utter self-loathing guilt.
…and now the floodgates have opened. By the end of the week someone will find Joyce in some low-rent dive dancing in leather armed with a whip and some chains.
I mean, probably. (Next time she sees Joe or Roz for sure,) but on the other hand I’m hopeful that admitting she HAS sexual thoughts might help her start sorting through what’s shame versus what’s PTSD and that could be helpful.
But that’s for the future. Aren’t we allegedly getting Sal flashbacks tomorrow? I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS INEVITABLE PAIN! (From the safety of my fort of course. I have a sturdy bomb-proof foundation and am now filling the inside with pillows.)
Willis’ twitter has implied a) Next storyline is Sal centred (and that squeeing noise you may have heard a few months ago was me), b) That Marcie will be in it (further squeeing may have commenced) and c) There will be a very VERY long flashback (squeeing intensified).
This strip brings me back to my high school days. My parents had just gotten internet for the first time, and the parental controls on the laptop I bought were……….. not exactly functional. I’m not sure if Joyce discovering the sex tape of people she actually KNOWS is better or worse than the terrible Quizilla smut fic that was my first experience with porn though, hahahaha… ha… Never mind, Joyce’s is clearly worse.
I mean, probably might have been a good idea to start with one starring random actors you don’t know, but hey. Baby steps are baby steps, and low grade exposure can help figure out where the issues are coming from. (My nutritionist gave me advice once for expanding my diet that I didn’t have to even swallow the New Scary Food the first time, just put a bit in my mouth to get used to it and spit it back out. Insert your own dirty joke here.)
Also, while I’m sure this was the first video… If she IS placing Jacob in the Off-Limits category (and rightfully so), maybe this awkward choice was deliberate.
Which is again why I would not recommend picking that as your first video, but let’s be real she would’ve done the same for anything she viewed. She would’ve done the same for fanfic that involves a lot of making out and then cuts off, I remember that I experience level.
Depends on the search terms. If she put something like “college sex” then chances are that the sex tape starring the younger sister of an elected official would be high on the list.
Is she deliberately looking up sex tapes (ok, obsolete term with modern tech) of her classmates, or was she looking up “first time college” videos to dip her toes in the proverbial water, and unfortunately, Joe was the one that came up?
On some subconscious level, Joyce must know Joe has been stumbling all over himself for her, so of course she’d keep watching.
i think it’s unlikely that Joyce even got as far as typing anything while already on a porn site. All the explicit images on a porn site front page would have already caused the shut-the-laptop-quickly response.
so maybe the search was on google where it’s a bit less likely to see porn before you look for it.
Repressed sexual desires is the saddest thing ever.
To be ashamed of your own body and its capacity for pleasure? To feel that guilty at even WANTING to feel good? To feel that ashamed and frightened at even glimpsing a porn? It’s just… horrible. Sexuality is a natural part of human existence, not something to be ashamed and scared of — especially not at her age. She’s all grown up, and doesn’t know how to handle feelings of lust. The best she can do is repress those feelings, push them down, deep down, and hope they don’t bubble up again.
But guess what, that’s what repressed feelings do. You can’t keep them down forever.
She needs to learn how to cope. I’m assuming girls do it more or less like guys do — the pressure gets too great, so you give yourself an orgasm to release it. Not as good or awesome as sex with a partner you love, but good enough to satisfy the libido for a while so your brain can focus on other stuff.
But she can’t. She’s scared. It’s a sin. Jesus is watching. All her dead relatives are watching.
(Did she specifically look for that one? or did stumbling across it ruin her first steps into exploring her own sexuality?)
Yeah, either she stumbled on this and can’t look away or could only bear looking up something she already knew about and has SEVERELY underestimated how awkward that’s gonna be. (I mean, if she blurts it out to Roz, Roz’ll probably be more surprised it’s still up after that scandal’s been irrelevant for weeks. Her sister’s done so many other things to wreck her campaign since then! But still.)
I feel like this has to hurt Joyce a little bit. It’s one thing to watch random people boning, another when one of the people is someone you maybe might have feelings for.
Also, I know you’re new to this, Joyce, but come on: headphones.
Actually it just wants her to suffer on the way; and I’m not sure if Joe would be comfortable with Joyce objectifying him or not? It’s be just as opposed to his stated principles to object as it his hers to be attracted to the ideological opposite of her beliefs
Yanno, out of everything, seeing joyce struggle with this is really sad. I don’t think we will see her experience even admitting she has these problems, let alone even get to that kind of intimate point with someone. I hope all of that self loathing doesn’t come out in a horrible way.
Well time to start looking at the silver linings of Joyce accidentally finding Joe and Roz’s sex tape immediately.
…I can’t really think of any. At first I was going to say “Well at least she won’t think pornstar schlong size is normal” but she already knows that from looking them up during the whiteboard dong bandit storyline (or whatever that storyline was called). Poor girl can’t catch a break.
Joyce, I see the color of your browser window and know it’s not an Incognito window. You’ll have to learn about this feature if you’re going to continue looking at porn, even if it’s in tiny glimpses.
Given her upbringing, she has probably never been told about deleting browser histories, browsing anonymously, and searching using a Google anonymiser.
That’s exactly what I was going to say. The current chapter was supposed to be about Mike(with regular interruptions, of course), and end of book makes me think it’s also end of chapter. But the flashbacks just left us hanging in a weird spot, and they weren’t tied into the present stuff at all. Are the flashbacks just going to continue into future chapters, or are they going to stop there and leave us wondering about the relevance for some time to come?
I doubt we’ll see much Mike-centric flashbacks in the future, but I’m happy with how willis executed it. There’s enough to support a whole bunch of theories about why mike is the way he is, but is extremely ambiguous, which always makes for an interesting comment section.
OK, Friday is the 17th anniversary, and I’m still awaiting my orders as an unkillable badass. How much longer must I wait? BTW I killed another F150 truck, and I’m getting really tired of getting hit. This was like the first time, and only mildly uncomfortable, but the having to stop and explain to LEO that, yes I wrecked the truck that ran into me, but no I don’t need a ride in the ambulance was annoying. Does Clark Kent have this problem?
Yeah Roz this is piss poor quality, it’s almost like you just strapped a Webcam to some sleeping guys foot and prompt it up to angle at you. This is mediocre.
Of course it did what it needed to, from Roz’s perspective: captured her face and enough action to make it clear what Congresswoman DeSanto’s little sister was doing.
Poor Joe! Already reduced to the status on-line of ‘some douchebag’!
Meanwhile, I’m not sure if Joyce is conflicted about her sexual desires or if she’s jealous of Roz! Either way, I’m taking this as a hint that she may go to Joe, hoping that a quick, no-relationship roll in the hay will help her somehow.
We all know Joe wouldn’t take her up on that. Hell I wouldn’t take her up on it knowing full well the psychological state she’s currently in and would possibly end up afterwards. It would definitely be a uncomfortable experience for both of them during and after.
Since we’re talking about no last Mike flashback, yeah like I said I needed unambiguous remorse from him to ascribe any benevolence to him whatsoever, so yeah. Mike’s a douchebag. (And that remorse needed to be directly refuting what he said to Blaine in that last strip.) May have knowingly arranged a situation where someone he claims to be friends with was trapped in a car with her abuser for hours. (Did he know it would end THAT badly? No, but he knew nothing good could come of it.) So yeah, the only Mike redemption arc I’ll buy is one where he loses all his friends and has a moment where he realized he fucked up so hard it temporarily becomes a musical to fully express how much he ruined things.
Take heart…
Doesn’t look like she actually watched it.
There’s no progress bar and the “Play” icon is still a triangle… (Would be the pause icon if being watched, no?)
She’s flirting with the temptation of watching it… and that’s what I’m taking from this one… she’s wrestling with her own emergence and the fight between that and her upbringing.
Actually, since Joyce knows where Sarah stashes her, umm, electric nose-picker, I predict a brief, intense affair with it, at least until the batteries run down. Or longer, if it’s USB-rechargeable.
This caught me by surprise. I do wonder where this will be going, given I really don’t think we’ve seen the end of Joe and Joyce interactions by a longshot.
Tsk, c’mon. This is not her usual browser window, of course. This is an “incognito mode” new window. The first tab is the google search she made to find this.
Oh Joyce, Joyce, why do you let them do this to you. I’d offer you a hug of support but something tells me that this is the last thing that you need right now!
Been there. Hell, been an atheist for nearly a decade now, and I still struggle with the heavy handed prudishness I grew up with. On the bright side, a homemade sex tape is a lot healthier to watch, than professional porn. While I agree that Joe wouldn’t act on any requests from Joyce, Roz might. Not saying it would turn out well, just that she wouldn’t try to keep Joyce the way she is. Becky or Leslie are the most likely to actually help though. The best thing would be a trip to a sex shop, getting a vibe that looks like a ‘back massager’, like a Hitachi Magic Wand (so her parents wouldn’t freak out), and then taking her time with relationships, faith, etc.
What “private moment”? Joe knew he was being videoed and had no problem with others finding out about it. (He seemed to like the publicity that came from it.)
First of all, what’s wrong with wearing a watch to bed? I always do… otherwise I’d probably forget to put it on on a regular basis.
Secondly, Fitbits can actually measure the amount of sleep you get. (Not sure how it does that… maybe it measures your pulse or overall motion.) So, you keep it on to know if you’re actually getting 8 hours of sleep at night, or if you’re up and awake half the night.
Besides, she’s in a competition with Jacob. Can’t miss those first and last few steps or take the chance of stumbling to the bathroom at night without it on.
With Book 8 over, I’m kind of trying to reflect on everything that’s changed over the course of this year’s worth of comics. It’s been a heck of a lot! Most characters are in different places than they started, some very different, even characters we normally don’t get focus on such as Mike (and Faz, a little!). But honestly, maybe it hasn’t even been that much more than usual for a single Book? Book 7 had some especially critical events go down, particularly Ruth’s breakdown and recovery, and Ryan being, uh, ‘dealt with’. Every Book has a lot of stuff happen, and to a lot of characters!
And that’s what’s really impressive to me- Willis’s incredible pacing. For roughly 365 5-panels-on-average strips, a lot happens in this comic! And without ever feeling rushed, either. I’m an, uh, let’s put it politely and say ‘aspiring’ cartoonist, and I feel like I’ve learned a huge amount about writing from slowly coming to understand just how good Willis’s storytelling is. That’s one of the big reasons I’ve gotten obsessed with DoA over my few years of reading it. Obsessed enough to make effortposts once in a while, even.
Anyway, Joyce is almost embarrassingly relatable today, and I was never even very repressed. It’s okay Joyce, it really does get better!
IIRC, while all books have ended with characters in bed for the night, some chapters have done so as well.
I think a couple have had a few bed shots in a row as well, so just the shot of someone in bed doesn’t necessarily mean that scene won’t continue.
Woof. I relate to Joyce here. The first time I ever looked at real porn I was flustered and hated myself. Everyone in my Church liked to talk about how the could fight temptation so I always felt like I was weak and wasn’t deserving of God’s love.
Nowadays I’m agnostic and don’t really care as much but still I feel this strip on a personal level.
I feel like God’s love is something that shouldn’t be so conditional. They also hurt people by going against desire as something which brings people together.
Yep. I went through the same thing when I was younger. The shame of sexuality is hard to shake off. Sometimes I still occasionally get a “I didn’t wait until marriage” guilt bout, even though I’ve long stopped actually believing that matters. It’s like a reflex.
Strangely I feel really bad for Joyce. When you grow up in a religious setting that encourages celibacy sexual exploration, even just watching porn, leaves you feeling really bad afterwards
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Danny’s foot makes for a tasteful censor bar.
Given that whoever took the video knows who Roz is and not Joe, it seems like a safe bet that this wasn’t in Joe’s dorm room. Also, while Roz may or may not put a whole lot of emotional ties to her sexual activities, it’s really unlikely she’d call any lover of hers “some douchebag.” Unless this is someone re-uploading the video and I’m missing/forgetting some context for when this actually happened, the most likely person to have made this video is Mary.
…aaaand while I was typing this someone posted the link showing the webcam attached to Danny’s be-socked foot while he was asleep. So I feel silly.
We know it was in Joe and Danny’s room. I think it’s decent odds this is a reupload, though.
Danny filmed it. Kinda.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/cam/
Also I’m guessing this is a re-upload since neither Roz nor Joe would refer to themselves like the title.
Nah, Roz uploaded it using her sisters name as part of a smear campaign against her.
Yes, Roz did it, on purpose, knowingly.
But probably not labeled as “some douchebag”.
That’s the reupload part.
So… Roz did it in Joe’s room with the video camera. Damn. I was sure it was Professor Plum.
March 1st 2011. They used Danny’s foot for the camera mount while he slept.
It’s a repost by somebody who knows how to make clickbait titles.
Oh sweet summer child.
SafeSearch was off, I guess
*goes to search*
Her lip bite makes me think she was looking for that video, specifically.
And we’re now wondering whether the Joeyce ship is going to pull out of port.
What? This is clearly a point in the favor of Joyce/Roz!
Royce? Joz?
You mean pull *into* port. Hey-o!
Pull out of port? *pulls out binoculars*
One, two, three… three squadrons of USS Joece’s full of passengers.
Or, do you mean my flagship’s finally done? I’ve been working forever on that one…
I was thinking for porn, but not that video
I suppose that’s the video she knew existed.
She was probably actually searching for “douchebag”.
Aha! At long last, Joyce’s terribe secret is revealed!
She has a crush on Roz.
Also that it’s “scroo tube”… Their version of red tube? Scandalous if true. Can’t imagine Joyce on a porn site. Prob is just a pun on YouTube for fun.
Nah. Clearly it’s a porn site like redtube. I think Walky’s constant teasing about her being horny got Joyce at least curious about porn. Not sure it’s a good first porn experience if she knows the people in it…
Not sure if any for free porn on the internet can be a good first porn experience. 90% is rape porn, teacher-student-porn, and 99,9% has abhorrent ideas what women are and want.
And I don’t think that’s helping her with being ashamed about wanting sex.
…where the hell did you get the statistic of 90% of porn being rape porn
From trying to find something on youporn that wasn’t.
Lots of it is the insidious sort where the women says no and stuggeles and than enjoys it, which is the worst sort in my view.
Same with gay porn, as far as I saw.
Hmmm. I see a research project. Wonder if I can get a grant. 🙂
Anecdotally, I doubt it’s that high. If nothing else there’s plenty that’s just sex, without even that much of a storyline. It is a disturbing amount and I’d agree that that more insidious sort is worse in some ways. At least in the being used as an example sense.
Uhh, I usually don’t go to YouPorn, but looking at the front page, of the 28 videos it’s trying to get me to watch, ONE of them is the student/teacher thing, which I will agree is gross, and then two are incest, which I find also gross, but the other 25 all look enthusiastically consensual.
I’m not trying to say that you didn’t see what you said you saw, and I’m not even trying to say that porn is a healthy and fair industry to women, but, maybe one look at the front page isn’t a good way to find out what percentage of porn is rape porn?
@thejeff
I actually recall a grad-student I worked under at a university writing center conducting a similar subject. I just remember both of us being at work, and when no clients were around, she would be diligently typing away, meticulously tagging and categorizing porn videos into a huge spreadsheet database.
I think those stats are way off.
They’re PROBABLY pretty close to stuff that’s easy to find though, without looking for stuff that’s specifically queer friendly, feminist, alternative, kink (without the dom/sub aspect) etc. So I can definitely see why you would come to that conclusion.
Stuff like crash-pad series or slipshine cost money. To find it, you have to know what to look for and have a credit card ready. Youporn and other sites of its ilk are comparably easy to find and free, so they are the most likely sites someone who’s unsure about the whole thing will first peak at.
And it’s a really bad place to start, if the aim is to feel good about being sexual. At least if you are a woman.
I can’t check what’s to see on the first page auf yp right now, as I’m in a public hotel LAN, but only one out of 28 videos being rape sounds totally unlikely to me.
You’re making an argument based on trying to feel good about being sexual? There’s the entire problem with your argument, you don’t need to bring up specific genres, most live porn isn’t meant for something feelgood like that. You’d be looking for something more passionate and less rough or roleplayish and it’s not as popular a genre, so it wouldn’t be recommended on the front pages. Some sites, or at least Pornhub, have a “for women” genre that you can find those kinds of things more. At the end of the day though, if you’re looking at porn of all things to try and make yourself feel better about sex, you’re looking in the wrong place.
Also, those sites tend to look at your IP to see the country you’re in and recommend based on what’s popular in that country until you watch stuff yourself to make different recommendations. I might be wrong but “auf” is making me think you’re in Germany? That just tells me a lot of Germans like rape porn.
^ Different stuff is probably also shown based on local porn laws. Some places have different restrictions.
Actual sex between consenting amateurs, probably way better than a scripted studio thing, or something for a niche kink that she doesn’t have.
Scroo tube is pronounced ‘Screw’tube, I’m sure.
This probably isn’t her first time down this particular rabbit-hole; remember her career as the Ding-Dong Bandit–she had to go online to research accurate reference models. I can guarantee that during that period, she saw more than just a single dong. She may have even seen this video before, and then come back to it now because thoughts are evil.
WOAH! Now that’s a twist
She came
She conquered her inhibitions, she saw Scrootube, she came.
Vici, vidi, veni? Seems backwards
When you’re looking for porn, the end is always veneri.
AUGH well done
Quick, Joyce. Eat the harddrive
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-8/03-faz-is-great/earlier/
In fact… I’m calling it. In a few days, Sarah will ask Joyce if she has a new laptop, and Joyce will avoid her gaze and change the subject.
“Some douchebag”
How did they find out Joe’s nickname?
Gotta wonder if that’s the version Roz uploaded.
Nah! Scrootube’s a second rate website. The video Roz uploaded has twice as many views on Pornhub.
New headcanon that Joyce’s general Google search brought up both results, but she felt slightly less guilt clicking “Scrootube” over “Pornhub.”
🙂
Still better than Xhamster.com …
In this universe, that just porn of Amber (/maybe AG, too).
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/splitsville/
Wouldn’t the DoA version be called Ponhurb or something?
They are not wrong
NANI ?
Omae wa mou porn!
“you are already porn”???
Joe: NANI?!
Sure. Why not?
https://i.imgur.com/erNC3Nv.jpg
*Sexplosion*
Sarah will be surprised about what happened in their room.
Omae wa mou shikima! (お前はもう色魔!) seems more appropriate, if that last part (色魔) actually has the meaning I’ve been lead to believe (“horny” as in sexually aroused). Meanwhile Omae wa mou poruno! (お前はもうポルノ!) feels particularly badly forced as a use of either language and as a use of the meme even if it has a certain accuracy in terms of fanworks. I don’t recall Willis ever doing anything quite like that with either universe’s version of Joyce, but I have seen some fanart before that absolutely has.
Ehhhh. Shikima gives me “sex maniac”, and mou is an adverb (so you wouldn’t apply it to a noun). You can probably verb the noun with suru, but I think it would be clearer with ero (in katakana, loanword from erotic).
mou ero shita, if you were going for “she’s already X”; ero shi-sugita if you were going for “she’s too X”, and ero shichatta (shite-shimatta) if you just wanna say “she’s (unfortunately/completely) X”.
…this was not the Japanese lesson I was expecting to learn today.
You’re welcome 8D
Thank you. Between the various resources I checked there were a handful of meanings for “shikima” and that was indeed one of them as were “devil” and “horny”. I’m only even aware of the term due to being told it has the meaning I mentioned above well over a decade ago by someone I trusted to be knowledgeable and had to work back from the romanji. My Japanese language skills are a travesty, I know.
Hey anytime 🙂 it’s all good practice on my end haha.
I had a response to this, but I suspect the inclusion of unicode Japanese characters may have either made the comments script choke on it or sent it off for manual moderation by Mr. Willis. Apologies to him for creating possible extra work if that is what happened.
why is there not really such a thing as ScrooToob
I’m more wondering how many alternate site names Willis tried before finding a youtube porn knockoff name that wasn’t a real site already.
Just surprised he didn’t grab that domain name himself in preparation with a faux website and everything.
Not like any other authors did anything like that in the past ….
So does Willis still have registered that one creepy website Faz set up back in Shortpacked? I forgot its whole title, just that it was something about buying extra domain names and a dick joke because Faz made it based off suggestions com Mike, and was… well, creepy.
Why does it redirect here instead of Slipshine
My guess is because you accidentally clicked the back button, because I get a “buy this domain name” ad.
Did you type it correctly? scrootoob.com does redirect here, just checked it myself.
Because Slipshine doesn’t host video?
(Animation based on Slipshine works would be great.)
In which Joyce learns a little bit more about her changing body.
It’ll be okay, Joyce.
Plenty of people banged out of wedlock in the Bible.
Who wants to bet Joyce’s own parents fucked a bunch before they tied the knot?
I mean, that’s how Joyce’s parents got hitched in the Walkyverse, if memory served…
Joyce’s parents met at College in the DoA-verse so doubtful. Given how anal Carol is about her Christian upbringings I can’t see that happening for her. Hank is more relaxed so there’s a slight chance he had some pre-marital Hank-y Panky.
Pretty sure they met at college – or at least attended college together – in the Walkyverse, too. Same college as here, in fact; it’s one of the reasons that the first Walkyverse comic (Roomies!) was also set at IU.
(The other big reason being that IU was where Willis was in college when Roomies! was first being published in the school paper.)
You sure it isn’t her just putting up a front out sexually shaming herself for probably having intercourse before marriage? She could just be shaming the act of pretty-marital sex as in some matter of projection much similar to some cartoonishly far leaning homophobic people being rarely closseted.
Hell I bet even Mary’s having a go at it right now with that one guy.
A lot of (most?) US Christian fundamentalists didn’t grow up that way, but became worse over time, and raised their children to avoid the “mistakes” they made themselves in the past.
I can’t shake the feeling that Willis himself has said that she was much more relaxed once, and became the way she is over time. I really do think he’s confirmed that but for the life of me I can’t remember where.
I mean even over the course of the strip we’ve noticed those changes coming to pass; when your ideals aren’t called into question you don’t need internal conflict to evolve in response to external conflict. (Heh, evolve). Joyce has specifically mentioned how difficult it is to be around people who can indulge in the temptations she’s afraid of without feeling bad in her conversations in relation to discovering carnal aspects of Dorothy and Walky’s relationship; and she’s also notably freaked out when she discovers other things -like atheism – that she grows comfortable with later but at first struggles with because she’d never been exposed to them (for sex in particular and her own sexuality it’s probably gonna be much more difficult, however; Joyce rn is trying to hold on to her religion as a conscious choice; actively fighting change for fear of losing herself, which seems to be harder for her than changing in the name of love for others)
I think Jason was talking about Carol. Apologies if you got that, your reply was just Joyce focused, so I wasn’t sure
Who filmed that? Better yet who titled that video?
Roz filmed it on purpose. Danny was the tripod.
Oh! I thought for some reason Danny was watching them bang.
Danny filmed it… sort of.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/cam/
You know when you think about it that’s kind of extortion. Danny could have sued if he felt like it.
All I’m saying is when the video gets licensed for a movie Danny better get a taste of that action.
No, that’s not how extortion works
They taped a goddamn camera to his foot while he was asleep and then fucked. They didn’t coerce him into “doing” anything.
They used his foot without permission.
Which is wrong, but it’s not extortion.
Could be sexual assault. I’m not 100% on where the line would be drawn there.
Only if Joe or Roz has a foot fetish.
IANAL but I think legally it would be simple battery. Battery is physically acting on another in a criminal manner. Assault is basically creating a reasonable threat of battery.
Canadian criminal law is weird and lumps battery in with assault (so in Canada there’s a crime called “assault causing bodily harm” which most other places would be equivalent to aggravated battery, although our civil law does distinguish between the tort of battery and the tort of assault), but most other jurisdictions separate battery from assault.
It wouldn’t be sexual battery because sexual battery involves touching someone’s intimate parts either with yourself or with an object. Dan’s foot was involved. Sleazy as hell, and totally not ok but probably not sexual battery.
That said though I’m not a lawyer so what do I know?
Dan’s sleeping foot, if I’m remembering right
Fire on the mountain, run boys run!
The Devil’s in the House of the Rising Sun
Chicken in the bread pans pickin’ out dough…
An interesting playlist choice for this situation….
Bill Monroe
Doc Watson
Mrs. W.B. Apple
The tune “Fire on the Mountain,” and the quoted lyric, are much older than Bill Monroe.
https://tunearch.org/wiki/Annotation:Fire_on_the_Mountain_(1)
All three of the songs are older than Bill Monroe. But if you’re going to hack the muzak, you’re going to need to choose a recording.
I particularly like the Doc Watson’s Rising Sun Blues as an example of the folk tradition of playing mix-and-match with tunes and lyrics. (Not that Watson changed anything, but that different singers sing the same lyrics to radically different tunes.)
Interesting. Those lyrics were familiar to me from Charlie Daniels’ “The Devil Went Down to Georgia,” but it makes sense, now that I think of how that song is constructed, that he borrowed that bit from a well-known bluegrass tune.
Maybe start with porn of people you don’t know… Maybe start with porn of people you haven’t dated.
Ask Ethan for some of his man-smuth instead. I’m sure he’s happy to share.
Yeah that’s a pretty steep step…
All of Ethan’s smut is fanart of Transformers boning.
Also at least one of Sexy Batman.
Man-smut? Ethan doesn’t have man-smut!
It’s dude-smut.
We will see about that, won’t we?
*trawls joyce+ethan-tag*
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/forthright/
…I stand corrected. Dude-smut it is!
I guess somebody has discovered porn.
Also ScrooToob is a great name.
I guess Joyce hasn’t seen nothing anymore:
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/frequency/
Well, if it’s any consolation, and without going into details, uh… it’s better than what I just saw tonight.
Now that’s a ship I can get behind. 🙂
the title is accurate
I have no idea what the face in panel two conveys, desire??? is scroobtoob supposed to be youtube or redtube?
ScrooToob. Like, “Screw-tube.” And she’s watching The Sextape, so which does it seem more like?
Say it out loud. Screw Tube.
It’s for porn.
Pretty sure it’s “horniness despite herself.” The semi-lapsed Catholic in me knows that expression well. (also almost def redtube)
oh.
Damn scary
i’m not horribly disappointed that “scrootube” isn’t a real thing
See it as a business opportunity
Joyce Almost Watches a Sex Tape: Coming soon to a Slipshine near you…?
Just 15 thrilling pages of this strip.
I’d join Slipshine to watch Joyce’s “pratfall”. Just saying.
Ugh. I remember way too clearly from back in my “born again” days that irresistible curiosity mingled with the bitter aftertaste of utter self-loathing guilt.
🙁
…and now the floodgates have opened. By the end of the week someone will find Joyce in some low-rent dive dancing in leather armed with a whip and some chains.
Oh, Joyce, baby. This is gonna get worse before it gets better, isn’t it?
I mean, probably. (Next time she sees Joe or Roz for sure,) but on the other hand I’m hopeful that admitting she HAS sexual thoughts might help her start sorting through what’s shame versus what’s PTSD and that could be helpful.
But that’s for the future. Aren’t we allegedly getting Sal flashbacks tomorrow? I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS INEVITABLE PAIN! (From the safety of my fort of course. I have a sturdy bomb-proof foundation and am now filling the inside with pillows.)
Willis’ twitter has implied a) Next storyline is Sal centred (and that squeeing noise you may have heard a few months ago was me), b) That Marcie will be in it (further squeeing may have commenced) and c) There will be a very VERY long flashback (squeeing intensified).
all this flashbacking is gonna play hell with the calculations of comic time vs real time.
This strip brings me back to my high school days. My parents had just gotten internet for the first time, and the parental controls on the laptop I bought were……….. not exactly functional. I’m not sure if Joyce discovering the sex tape of people she actually KNOWS is better or worse than the terrible Quizilla smut fic that was my first experience with porn though, hahahaha… ha… Never mind, Joyce’s is clearly worse.
joyce is watching a sexy back (yeah)
Holy shit I didn’t expect Joyce to actually look at porn, even for just a few seconds.
ha!
Zoinks, ScrooToob!
As far as DoA goes I was not ready for the past week.
I hate Joyce’s actions because they mirror mine when I was a young teenager.
At least she averted the doll’s gaze beforehand.
Nice touch!
ok someone go register scrootoob.com
god damn it feels good to be all caught up again
god damn it feels good to be all caught up again
didn’t even try it, did you
God Damn it Willis!
Created May 31. I’m guessing right after you made this strip.
And the redirect went live at 0001 CDT because when I looked it up at 2330 I got a domain name seller site.
I shouldn’t have, but I did.
the redirect went up three months ago, literally seconds after i bought the domain
(and i tested that the redirect worked literally seconds after THAT, so)
Huh.
I guess Opus just has gremlins in their computer then.
Ah, and DNS can take around 24 hours to propogate, iirc.
Works for me already, though.
look, folks
Beautifully done!
Well played, Mister Willis….
Well played
Without counting the Slipshine, this is the most we’ve seen of Joe since… April, I think. I love this strip and everything it brings to the table.
I mean, probably might have been a good idea to start with one starring random actors you don’t know, but hey. Baby steps are baby steps, and low grade exposure can help figure out where the issues are coming from. (My nutritionist gave me advice once for expanding my diet that I didn’t have to even swallow the New Scary Food the first time, just put a bit in my mouth to get used to it and spit it back out. Insert your own dirty joke here.)
Also, while I’m sure this was the first video… If she IS placing Jacob in the Off-Limits category (and rightfully so), maybe this awkward choice was deliberate.
I think you have mistaken running leaps for baby steps. Joe is literally one of her closest friends and she’s looking up porn of him.
Which is again why I would not recommend picking that as your first video, but let’s be real she would’ve done the same for anything she viewed. She would’ve done the same for fanfic that involves a lot of making out and then cuts off, I remember that I experience level.
I think Joyce just picked some random video without really looking at the title.
I assume ScrooToob didn’t get millions of viewers without having enough videos to make that extremely unlikely.
Depends on the search terms. If she put something like “college sex” then chances are that the sex tape starring the younger sister of an elected official would be high on the list.
It’s got over two million views. Yeah, shot in the dark, it was on the first page or was simple enough to find.
Given the five zillion hours of porn available on the web, hitting this by accident seems wildly improbable.
And half a zillion hours of that is college students screwing in their dorms, at frat/soror parties, and for channels that specialise.
Is she deliberately looking up sex tapes (ok, obsolete term with modern tech) of her classmates, or was she looking up “first time college” videos to dip her toes in the proverbial water, and unfortunately, Joe was the one that came up?
On some subconscious level, Joyce must know Joe has been stumbling all over himself for her, so of course she’d keep watching.
i think it’s unlikely that Joyce even got as far as typing anything while already on a porn site. All the explicit images on a porn site front page would have already caused the shut-the-laptop-quickly response.
so maybe the search was on google where it’s a bit less likely to see porn before you look for it.
She knew about this one. She’s interested in Joe. She probably has no idea of the vastness of the volume of porn out there.
She went looking for this one.
also the video has a number of views ending in 69.
Nice.
Nice.
Good gravy, is her very first porn experience really of people she personally KNOWS? That’s not how porn is supposed to work!!!
it is if youre amber
O. M. G.
Repressed sexual desires is the saddest thing ever.
To be ashamed of your own body and its capacity for pleasure? To feel that guilty at even WANTING to feel good? To feel that ashamed and frightened at even glimpsing a porn? It’s just… horrible. Sexuality is a natural part of human existence, not something to be ashamed and scared of — especially not at her age. She’s all grown up, and doesn’t know how to handle feelings of lust. The best she can do is repress those feelings, push them down, deep down, and hope they don’t bubble up again.
But guess what, that’s what repressed feelings do. You can’t keep them down forever.
She needs to learn how to cope. I’m assuming girls do it more or less like guys do — the pressure gets too great, so you give yourself an orgasm to release it. Not as good or awesome as sex with a partner you love, but good enough to satisfy the libido for a while so your brain can focus on other stuff.
But she can’t. She’s scared. It’s a sin. Jesus is watching. All her dead relatives are watching.
(Did she specifically look for that one? or did stumbling across it ruin her first steps into exploring her own sexuality?)
I’m assuming she has it on mute, otherwise Sarah is in for a surprise.
Yeah, the speakers are crossed out. It’s on soundless.
oh my god joyce, start out with porn of people you DON’T know
Yeah, either she stumbled on this and can’t look away or could only bear looking up something she already knew about and has SEVERELY underestimated how awkward that’s gonna be. (I mean, if she blurts it out to Roz, Roz’ll probably be more surprised it’s still up after that scandal’s been irrelevant for weeks. Her sister’s done so many other things to wreck her campaign since then! But still.)
Roz is smarter than that. Nothing on the Internet ever goes away.
I feel like this has to hurt Joyce a little bit. It’s one thing to watch random people boning, another when one of the people is someone you maybe might have feelings for.
Also, I know you’re new to this, Joyce, but come on: headphones.
If you look closely, you’ll note that A) the volume is off and B) it has yet to begin playing.
WHAT I MISSED JOYCE DOES A PORN
HOLY CRAP I THOUGHT THE MADNESS WAS OVER BUT IT DEFINITELY IS NOT OVER
Zoinks! Like, let’s get outta here, Sc(rooT)oob!
Nononono Joyce, the blanket’s in the way. You’ll never claw out your eyes like that.
This poor girl. Going to search porn… encountering Joe. It’s like the universe doesn’t WANT her to have character development
Actually it just wants her to suffer on the way; and I’m not sure if Joe would be comfortable with Joyce objectifying him or not? It’s be just as opposed to his stated principles to object as it his hers to be attracted to the ideological opposite of her beliefs
Yanno, out of everything, seeing joyce struggle with this is really sad. I don’t think we will see her experience even admitting she has these problems, let alone even get to that kind of intimate point with someone. I hope all of that self loathing doesn’t come out in a horrible way.
Not the bed ending I expected.
Poor repressed Joyce.
I wonder what’s in the other tab…
An episode of Dexter & Monkey Master.
How long did it take you to come up with ‘ScrooToob’ as the name of the website?
And when did Joyce start surfing those kinds of sites?
I think this is her first time.
Well time to start looking at the silver linings of Joyce accidentally finding Joe and Roz’s sex tape immediately.
…I can’t really think of any. At first I was going to say “Well at least she won’t think pornstar schlong size is normal” but she already knows that from looking them up during the whiteboard dong bandit storyline (or whatever that storyline was called). Poor girl can’t catch a break.
“accidentally…”
Huh. I guess we had a lot of Mike in this chapter, but somehow I figured there would be at least this one more.
What if Mike looks into her browser history?
Oh, get that girl a vibrator! Stat!
If she did what would she name it, Jacob?
(Newllend uncensored!)
Other Joe.
She probably won’t be able to force herself to get a penetrative one, so…Buzzing Dorothy.
Becky can never know.
…that angry Joyce avatar makes this even better. XD
Other other Jacob.
Jacob III.
:The Rejacobing
Joyce, your feelings are normal. You would only have to worry if you believe the crap that Lars Von Trier writes. I hate that guy.
Joyce, I see the color of your browser window and know it’s not an Incognito window. You’ll have to learn about this feature if you’re going to continue looking at porn, even if it’s in tiny glimpses.
This was my immediate first thought. Hope she remembers to clear her history.
Given her upbringing, she has probably never been told about deleting browser histories, browsing anonymously, and searching using a Google anonymiser.
She really did miss out on learning the basics of life. 🙁
It feels really dirty to see Joyce looking at porn.
Yup. Much more so than seeing Roz and Joe making a porn. Her shame becomes my shame
Seeing as this storyline’ over, I wonder when we’ll get to see the end of whatever’s up with Mike
That’s exactly what I was going to say. The current chapter was supposed to be about Mike(with regular interruptions, of course), and end of book makes me think it’s also end of chapter. But the flashbacks just left us hanging in a weird spot, and they weren’t tied into the present stuff at all. Are the flashbacks just going to continue into future chapters, or are they going to stop there and leave us wondering about the relevance for some time to come?
I doubt we’ll see much Mike-centric flashbacks in the future, but I’m happy with how willis executed it. There’s enough to support a whole bunch of theories about why mike is the way he is, but is extremely ambiguous, which always makes for an interesting comment section.
OK, Friday is the 17th anniversary, and I’m still awaiting my orders as an unkillable badass. How much longer must I wait? BTW I killed another F150 truck, and I’m getting really tired of getting hit. This was like the first time, and only mildly uncomfortable, but the having to stop and explain to LEO that, yes I wrecked the truck that ran into me, but no I don’t need a ride in the ambulance was annoying. Does Clark Kent have this problem?
woooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAHHHHHHHHHooooooo.
Did not expect to see THAT being how that looped back around.
WOW.
Sexual, repression!
Touching’s only light
Sexual, repression!
Shame in the dark of night
Sexual, repression!
Jesus hasn’t lost his sight
Sexual, repression!
He thinks it’s not alright
Sexual, repression!
What do they teach
Sexual, repression!
Not what Jesus’ preached
Sexual, repression!
Masturbation is not a blight!
Sexual, repression!
Fight for your rights,
for a potential
Self care delight!
(just don’t over do it)
okay I’m done.
My best guess is that Joyce was looking it up on purpose because Joe.
Hanky panky strips!
You know, they’re the tits!
Except for some folks!
Who don’t like to poke!
But pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeassssssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeee
We know Joyce does too.
Yes we all do.
She is a little scared!
A little unprepared!
For this to be okay!
Like her thoughts about the gays!
But pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssseeeeee
She loves them too.
Yes we sure do.
IT TAKES A LITTLE TIME
To unlearn shitty stuff.
But JOYCE IS READY AND PRIMED
To learn a knew way to shuff. Le.
She may flick the bean!
But she’s not unclean!
learning from Leslie!
That there are more ways to be!
And the others may challenge her viewwwwwwwwwws
But pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
She loves them too.
YES WE KNOW YES WE DO.
And when she accepts herself, and what is truuuuuuue
She’ll like the hokey pokey too
Yes we know it, yes we do.
If it’s with someone who isn’t a pressuring awful creep like Ryan
Yes we know it’s true.
The first chorus should be: We know she loves it too, yes we do.
NOW I’m done.
Terrible film-making, Roz. Bad angle and subpar lighting. I wouldn’t be able to fap to it either.
Yeah Roz this is piss poor quality, it’s almost like you just strapped a Webcam to some sleeping guys foot and prompt it up to angle at you. This is mediocre.
Of course it did what it needed to, from Roz’s perspective: captured her face and enough action to make it clear what Congresswoman DeSanto’s little sister was doing.
Poor Joe! Already reduced to the status on-line of ‘some douchebag’!
Meanwhile, I’m not sure if Joyce is conflicted about her sexual desires or if she’s jealous of Roz! Either way, I’m taking this as a hint that she may go to Joe, hoping that a quick, no-relationship roll in the hay will help her somehow.
We all know Joe wouldn’t take her up on that. Hell I wouldn’t take her up on it knowing full well the psychological state she’s currently in and would possibly end up afterwards. It would definitely be a uncomfortable experience for both of them during and after.
Just no.
Ah, so that’s why she got into talking to Joe on the sly.
I appreciate the extra touch that Dexter is face down. Joyce doesn’t want him to see this.
Joyce wants Joe to Joe her with his Joe…hopefully they at least try another date first though 🙂
Oh Joyce…
Since we’re talking about no last Mike flashback, yeah like I said I needed unambiguous remorse from him to ascribe any benevolence to him whatsoever, so yeah. Mike’s a douchebag. (And that remorse needed to be directly refuting what he said to Blaine in that last strip.) May have knowingly arranged a situation where someone he claims to be friends with was trapped in a car with her abuser for hours. (Did he know it would end THAT badly? No, but he knew nothing good could come of it.) So yeah, the only Mike redemption arc I’ll buy is one where he loses all his friends and has a moment where he realized he fucked up so hard it temporarily becomes a musical to fully express how much he ruined things.
Take heart…
Doesn’t look like she actually watched it.
There’s no progress bar and the “Play” icon is still a triangle… (Would be the pause icon if being watched, no?)
She’s flirting with the temptation of watching it… and that’s what I’m taking from this one… she’s wrestling with her own emergence and the fight between that and her upbringing.
Actually, since Joyce knows where Sarah stashes her, umm, electric nose-picker, I predict a brief, intense affair with it, at least until the batteries run down. Or longer, if it’s USB-rechargeable.
But then, I’m a romantic.
Well, she’s always got pillows.
It’s not clear that she’d know what to do with the pillows. She could probably Google “vibrator” tho.
Using someone else’s vibrator sounds extremely unsanitary, and joyce is a germaphobe.
This caught me by surprise. I do wonder where this will be going, given I really don’t think we’ve seen the end of Joe and Joyce interactions by a longshot.
Only two open tabs?
Ive got like, 45 tabs open here.
I wasn’t even sure people even had less than 10 open ones.
Tsk, c’mon. This is not her usual browser window, of course. This is an “incognito mode” new window. The first tab is the google search she made to find this.
If I have more than three, I get the fits.
It’s going to be awkward when she opens her labtop and someone’s behind her…
Now I want a slipshine where Joyce pleasures herself with that head alien plush next to her.
next to. sure.
Noticed the Head Alien doll too, notice she had him face down where he couldn’t see the screen!
Joyce Sexplosion occurring in T-minus 49 strips…
So… Tomorrow, in-comic time
What.
Oh Joyce, Joyce, why do you let them do this to you. I’d offer you a hug of support but something tells me that this is the last thing that you need right now!
The slightest physical contact at this point could cause her to pratfall into orgasm and bang half the town.
And bang goes half the town …
Someone calls the firefighters
Been there. Hell, been an atheist for nearly a decade now, and I still struggle with the heavy handed prudishness I grew up with. On the bright side, a homemade sex tape is a lot healthier to watch, than professional porn. While I agree that Joe wouldn’t act on any requests from Joyce, Roz might. Not saying it would turn out well, just that she wouldn’t try to keep Joyce the way she is. Becky or Leslie are the most likely to actually help though. The best thing would be a trip to a sex shop, getting a vibe that looks like a ‘back massager’, like a Hitachi Magic Wand (so her parents wouldn’t freak out), and then taking her time with relationships, faith, etc.
I actually think it’s much much creepier that she’s creeping on the private moments of her friend.
What “private moment”? Joe knew he was being videoed and had no problem with others finding out about it. (He seemed to like the publicity that came from it.)
You are defining private moment differently. Joyce is weird for perving on her friend. That is creepy.
She’s tempted and conflicted and guilty. That’s pretty understandable.
She wears her watch to bed???
I’m pretty sure that’s her Fitbit. No less weird, but I guess it makes sense?
First of all, what’s wrong with wearing a watch to bed? I always do… otherwise I’d probably forget to put it on on a regular basis.
Secondly, Fitbits can actually measure the amount of sleep you get. (Not sure how it does that… maybe it measures your pulse or overall motion.) So, you keep it on to know if you’re actually getting 8 hours of sleep at night, or if you’re up and awake half the night.
Besides, she’s in a competition with Jacob. Can’t miss those first and last few steps or take the chance of stumbling to the bathroom at night without it on.
Can pent up sexual frustration cause an aneurysm? Find out next time on Dumbing of Age!
With Book 8 over, I’m kind of trying to reflect on everything that’s changed over the course of this year’s worth of comics. It’s been a heck of a lot! Most characters are in different places than they started, some very different, even characters we normally don’t get focus on such as Mike (and Faz, a little!). But honestly, maybe it hasn’t even been that much more than usual for a single Book? Book 7 had some especially critical events go down, particularly Ruth’s breakdown and recovery, and Ryan being, uh, ‘dealt with’. Every Book has a lot of stuff happen, and to a lot of characters!
And that’s what’s really impressive to me- Willis’s incredible pacing. For roughly 365 5-panels-on-average strips, a lot happens in this comic! And without ever feeling rushed, either. I’m an, uh, let’s put it politely and say ‘aspiring’ cartoonist, and I feel like I’ve learned a huge amount about writing from slowly coming to understand just how good Willis’s storytelling is. That’s one of the big reasons I’ve gotten obsessed with DoA over my few years of reading it. Obsessed enough to make effortposts once in a while, even.
Anyway, Joyce is almost embarrassingly relatable today, and I was never even very repressed. It’s okay Joyce, it really does get better!
Panel 5 Joyce:
Mustn’t suck a billion dicks…
Mustn’t suck a billion dicks…
Mustn’t suck a billion dicks…
People keep saying this is the end of a book. How can you tell?
Mouseover text. You haven’t been reading the mouseovers?
Also, the general rule for this sort of thing is: Ending At Midnight = end of chapter, Ending At Midnight With Someone(s) In Bed = end of book.
IIRC, while all books have ended with characters in bed for the night, some chapters have done so as well.
I think a couple have had a few bed shots in a row as well, so just the shot of someone in bed doesn’t necessarily mean that scene won’t continue.
Woof. I relate to Joyce here. The first time I ever looked at real porn I was flustered and hated myself. Everyone in my Church liked to talk about how the could fight temptation so I always felt like I was weak and wasn’t deserving of God’s love.
Nowadays I’m agnostic and don’t really care as much but still I feel this strip on a personal level.
I feel like God’s love is something that shouldn’t be so conditional. They also hurt people by going against desire as something which brings people together.
I feel like God probably isn’t really that concerned with what we do with our genitals. Or if he is, he’s kind of an asshole.
Yep. I went through the same thing when I was younger. The shame of sexuality is hard to shake off. Sometimes I still occasionally get a “I didn’t wait until marriage” guilt bout, even though I’ve long stopped actually believing that matters. It’s like a reflex.
I still want a slipshine of Roz and Joe having a sex ed tape
I require that second panel Joyce to become one of the Gravitars here.
It’s all yours!
the thirst is real
The first thing I did after reading this was google “scrootoob,” this comic was the only result.
You should just go to scrootoob.com instead.
And then Joyce just keeps watching Roz’s videos, so she can bang half the town… vicariously.
Dang, and here I thought reading incestuous bestiality erotica when I was 14 messed me up.
No person’s first porn should be of people they know.
Does Joyce have an anticipatory little smile in panel one?
What a way to end a book
Though, This comic is over sixteen years in the making
Strangely I feel really bad for Joyce. When you grow up in a religious setting that encourages celibacy sexual exploration, even just watching porn, leaves you feeling really bad afterwards
God dammit.