I went back and looked at the Roomies strips. The truck in that comic was either drawn in silhouette or with just the cab showing, so we can’t actually rule out that it said FUCK on the side.
We used to see Guaranteed Overnight Delivery trucks pretty regularly, with their acronym in big bold letters. Apparently they’ve been out of business since the early 2000s though.
It’s 100% not. Read the lyrics to the song. “That” is a reference to earlier lyrics in the song, usually just before each chorus. “I’ll never forget how you feel right now,” “forgive myself if we don’t go all the way tonight,” “do it better than I do it with you,” and “stop dreaming of you every night of my life,” are what that is.
In his own weird pervy 90s way, Meat Loaf is saying that leaving his girl to find love isn’t an option.
Sal wants to do right by Marcie, and this revelation is not what she was expecting. She clearly feels bad that she didn’t realize that Marcie had a crush on her, and her brain is giving her shit about how it should’ve been obvious.
She’s also probably feeling guilty/selfish for being jealous of Malaya. If I recall part of this whole “get Marcie with Malaya” thing was because she felt like Malaya was stealing her best friend, and when she realized Marcie was into Malaya, she figured getting them together would mean Marcie would get that out of her system and then Sal’d get her best friend back.
But now she just realized that given the choice, Marcie would probably MUCH rather be spending all this time with Sal, but Sal can’t give her everything she really wants out of the relationship.
I keep seeing stuff in the comments talking about how it’s not gonna happen because Sal is canonically straight, to which I reply – this is shipping. What’s canon got to do with it?
I know shipping is shipping, but if a character’s sexuality has been Very Firmly Established, then it feels a little ickier to do it, personally.
Like this isn’t a ‘character could find out they’re bi’ thing, but strip hovertext and some of Sal’s stuff implies to me that they’re very straight, and it’s not gonna deviate.
It’d be just as weird to me to ship Ethan with Amber.
Those two scenarios aren’t equivalent at all. Shipping canonically gay characters in straight pairings is not even close to the same thing as shipping canonically straight characters in gay pairings.
I get what you’re saying, that ignoring the sexuality of someone seems icky either way, but they’re fictional characters. From a real-world sociological perspective, the former is bad, but the latter is good. Actually, most of the time it’s the only way LGBT fans will ever get to see LGBT relationships between their favorite characters, sadly.
To be clear, I don’t explicitly have a problem with other people doing it – it’s their headcanon, after all, and I’ve got my own share. I’m just expressing my own reason of why I would very rarely do it myself.
I wouldn’t do it with making a gay character anything but gay – gay characters are under represented as it is. Straight characters, on the other hand, are so common it’s not even a dime a dozen. 90%+ are straight. I have no problems saying ‘Eh, screw it, turns out they realized they’re bi/pan/multi/poly/whatever I feel like they’d call themselves’. Especially since people who thought they were very straight realize they’re not all the time.
A quick glance through the cast page (which obviously lacks a few minor characters) gives us nine confirmed or implied straight people out of 21. Which is just under half, which is honestly a higher rate than I expected for this comic!
But yeah, also recognise the point. It sometimes feels weird to me to see people make mods to make straight folk not straight in video games (depending on the game, the character and the availability of SS romance options) but it genuinely bothers me when it’s done for gay characters. One in particular where his experiences of being gay were a key part of his story (his unwillingness to pretend to be straight and procreate caused massive issues with his noble family) REALLY upset me when I saw a mod to allow female characters to romance him, because it’s disrespecting who he is on a fundamental level which is not only echoed in his own story, but also seen very commonly in the world.
(Rant/ramble over.)
In the case where you ship a ship that doesn’t work for sexualities of those involved, does writing a gender end fix that makes it work make it less or more ick?
I am not sure honestly. I have a complicated relationship with gender bent fic.
I personally wouldn’t write it, but for all I know, another author doing so is a trans person who sees a lot of themselves in said character and their relationship and it’s not my place to come down on that. It’s also really really not my place to interrogate people and find out if that’s the case. So when I see fics like that, I usually scroll past them.
That is, when the ship is turning a gay character straight.
Gender bends in general? I dunno. I know a lot of people prefer to do trans head canons instead, and those are great, but I’m not sure whether or not that’s just another form of gender bending? Personally, as someone who gets pretty frustrated by huge franchises I love having major male characters outnumber major female characters 2 to 1 at the very least, looking at art or fic where some of those guys were girls was empowering for me when I was younger. I also know GNC guys who felt similarly about having very feminine girls gender bent into GNC guys so….yeah, it’s complicated.
I don’t think they’re addressing it toward non-canon shippers like you (and me). Some people actually want their ships to become canon, and in this case those people are gonna be disappointed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’m hoping they can get get past this revelation like Joyce and (less so) Becky did. Sal might, initially, TRY, out of her love for Marcie, and Marcie will, most-likely, reject this idea because it’s a feckin’ insane, mummers fantasy. Hopefully Marcie’s honesty will end with them growing closer, instead of making things awkward, again, but, honestly, it could go either way; at this point.
At least it was not Trucksan else her mind will end up in another world.
We could then have a fantasy world manga/manhua.
We will follow the adventures of he mind in this new world of high fantasy.
What cheat power will she inherit to help here fight the Demon Lord in the coming apocalypse?
Marcie uses her phone to type when she wants to talk to people who don’t know ASL, so Joyce not knowing it is not an insurmountable obstacle. But as far as I recall they haven’t had a conversation.
She even was worried about this exact eventuality coming to pass- but even with sal removing the toxic elements of this subterfuge the results were still (un)surprisingly catastrophic. It’ll be interesting to see how this arc differs from Becky’s (other than shotgun dad) and how she reacts to all this
Likely they just didn’t know Marcie, well enough (or, really at all), to assume anything. And Joyce has only, barely, met Malaya. So trusting them to “lesbian sleuth” this one out was ill-advised.
I agree with TemporalShrew. It’s definitely best to not kiss people whom you don’t want to kiss. It’s also fine that she wasn’t able to think of an instant out that would save face for Marcie. She can even go back and fix it with Malaya later as needed.
That wasn’t the only alternative. “I’m not comfortable kissing in front of you to prove my relationship” would have been an appropriate response. Then, if Sal wasn’t comfortable continuing the plan, she could have told Marcie privately and they could have casually “broken up”. But the plan was Sal’s idea, so she should have had at least a little commitment and made more effort not to publicly embarrass Marcie.
I’m almost ready to declare Sal a more problematic character than Lucy.
With the Shenangans rules that means those two would hook up at some point in the future (Joyce/Sal).
Shenanagan clause is too strong in slice of life dramedies.
With the Shenangans rules that means those two would hook up at some point in the future (Joyce/Sal).
Shenanagan clause is too strong in slice of life dramedies.
There’s definitely a fanfic there – in the day they’re perfectly fundie church acceptable friends, but at night everything changes…
Although I can’t think of a good in universe reason for their alter ego pairing to be called Hydie.
If it’s any consolation, I saw it because I’m the kind of thick who can only see what’s truly, completely, obvious. That tends to be overlooked by a lot of smart people.
Well, that explains a few things. Why Marcie followed sal when she moved for example.
I feel a bit sorry for sal. This can get really complicated and messy now. Friendships with one – sided feelings are not easy.
Also, this is how you should react if a friend tells you they have a crush on you and you’re not interested. Take notes malaya.
It might also be part of why Marcie cut sal off during the aftermath of this incident. That she took sals advice at face value but applied it to sal herself instead of malaya.
…huh. I thought it was obvious that Sal was Marcie’s first crush, and that Sal was oblivious because Marcie is not good about expressing interest.
What i don’t get is the truck smashing half of Sal’s brain. I haven’t read the first comic Willis did so this is my first interaction with these characters – is the truck a reference? Or is it just a “stunned surprise” realization?
A bit higher up Delicious Taffy called it “A truckload of fuck”. I think that’s what it’s mainly meant to convey. Of course it’s also a truck and Ruth got killed by one in another comic by Willis and now trucks are a morbid running gag.
I wonder if Malaya picked up on this (Marcie being into Sal, or at least having some longing or whatever there), and that’s why she thought Sal was being genuine.
Headcannon: rather than fingerspelling Malaya’s name, they have a nickname for her that’s to Sal’s liking. Marcie just literally signed “you were my first irritating bongo” or some such.
Lol you mean give her a name sign? Every deafie I know says only deafies can give you one, but since neither are actually deaf… Yeah guess Sal could pick it. But Marcie wouldnt it be intentionally bad, it’d have to be a double entendre
I think that Marcie was over it by then? As in she knew very well that Sal was straight and that it wasn’t happening, and this conversation was in bounds of what she could handle? But the stitches are reopening now because almost kissing someone is very much not in those bounds.
I think that there is a big test ahead for Sal and Marcie. Specifically, whether their friendship is strong enough to survive Marcie’s feelings of guilt and Sal’s awkwardness at this revelation. It would be easier to just go their separate ways rather than confront this but that would be a shame, I think.
Easier if they were casual friends, but Sal and Marcie have been through a lot. It is possible to be friends with people who you are attracted to and aren’t interested in a relationship, as long as there’s trust.
I don’t she’s quite to that level of mastermind. Her primary accusation against Sal is that Sal is some kind of poser. Having bad gaydar for your best pal isn’t a strong crime.
Most likely, Marcie has a unique sign for each person she signs about a lot. One of my sisters works with deaf kids, and she says they tend to invent unique signs to refer to specific people by name.
I suspect that Marcie is very aware that Sal doesn’t think of her that way and so has been trying to let no hint of her feelings out. However, she’s only human and it has still been affecting her behaviour towards Sal in a thousand different ways.
Oh, snap. Marcie may have been interested in Malaya all this time, and Sal may have been jealous of Malaya for spending so much time with her best friend, but has Marcie also been hoping Sal would get jealous for a different reason all this time as well?
Also, any idea why Malaya likes spending time with Marcie? Other than the obvious one that she doesn’t hear Marcie say a lot of stuff that triggers her.
I really like the first panel, and the background in the second panel. Just very nice drawings and interesting framing of the conversation.
Also, aw Marcie. I think we all suspected this but it’s still hard to see you admit it
What part of campus is that frame showing?
I sometimes use satellite & street images to hone in on where these scenes take place and re-imagine them as live action.
Yep, just found them. Thanks for the tip.
It’s always a bit wacky to see these iconic BGs in real life. I live near the Washington DC Hilton Hotel where Pres Reagan was shot years ago. For anyone who’s ever seen the news footage and remembers the stone wall behind him, it too is eerie seeing it up close and in person.
It’s tough, I know. It’s tough to want to give someone you care about what they want but to know you can’t be what they want you to be. It’s tough to fail a close friend like that.
(But seriously, if I were in Sal’s position here, I would have no idea what to do. It’s such a confusing situation that, unless you suddenly figure something out about yourself that you didn’t know, you are stuck in a lose-lose situation.)
Well, something‘s been killed by a truck, at last.
Also I love Sal’s “relieved she didn’t mess up”/”concerned her friend is going through a real thing that’s probably not going to end happily”/”did you just compare me to Malaya?” face.
Also, my prediction is we’re probably due for a character discovering she’s not, against her best wishes, queer. As painful as it will be for every woman loving women out there.
Shenangan rules of TV shows dictate that this will lead to Joyce/Sal awkward kissing in the future due to talking to each other about their respective friends.
likely drunk.
and choosing to never speak of it again but knowing a bit more about themselves (one way or another)
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I went back and looked at the Roomies strips. The truck in that comic was either drawn in silhouette or with just the cab showing, so we can’t actually rule out that it said FUCK on the side.
No word on whether it was the same truck, but the same driver at least has a tag in here: http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/definitely-that-same-truck-driver-dude-as-in-roomies/
The trucking company’s name just has an unfortunate acronym.
Freight United Couriers of Kokomo
Kind of like “Sure Wish I Finished Training” fits SWIFT, or “United Parcel Smashers” fits UPS.
Friend Unknowingly Craved Kiss.
That is wonderfully fitting
I was once a member of the Friday Underground Concerned Kentuckians, a group that advertised in our school play programs. No one ever picked up on it.
We used to see Guaranteed Overnight Delivery trucks pretty regularly, with their acronym in big bold letters. Apparently they’ve been out of business since the early 2000s though.
Here’s a real one.
Flinders University’s Centre for Knowledge Interaction Technology.
Imagine how smug the the engineer that got that to pass felt.
http://www.flinders.edu.au/science_engineering/csem/research/centres/ckit.cfm
http://i68.tinypic.com/ncw.jpg
Is that Optimus Prime?
“Ah… was yer first total clitblocking douchnozzle??”
*hit by FUCK the TRUCK*
…Salaya… 🤔
Sal I hope this is a flattered face despite the fuck truck.
I don’t think Sal knows what kind of face it is.
I think it’s a sadface of “I would do anything to give her what she wants but this is beyond my ability”
She would do anything for love, but she won’t do that.
fuck
Oh, hey! I finally know what “that” is!
I’m pretty sure the “that” is pegging, according to comments by the original artist…
It’s 100% not. Read the lyrics to the song. “That” is a reference to earlier lyrics in the song, usually just before each chorus. “I’ll never forget how you feel right now,” “forgive myself if we don’t go all the way tonight,” “do it better than I do it with you,” and “stop dreaming of you every night of my life,” are what that is.
In his own weird pervy 90s way, Meat Loaf is saying that leaving his girl to find love isn’t an option.
Also catch Meat’s explanation in the ‘Storytellers’ video.
Jim Steinman is a god.
“I know the territory, I’ve been around;
It’ll all turn to dust, it’ll all fall down,
Sooner or later you’ll be screwing around…”
“No, I won’t do that…. No I won’t do that…”
I’m getting more of a feel of sadface of “I hurt you and never knew it and even if I had there’s nothing I could’ve done about it”
Sal wants to do right by Marcie, and this revelation is not what she was expecting. She clearly feels bad that she didn’t realize that Marcie had a crush on her, and her brain is giving her shit about how it should’ve been obvious.
The last truck missed, but not this one.
She’s also probably feeling guilty/selfish for being jealous of Malaya. If I recall part of this whole “get Marcie with Malaya” thing was because she felt like Malaya was stealing her best friend, and when she realized Marcie was into Malaya, she figured getting them together would mean Marcie would get that out of her system and then Sal’d get her best friend back.
But now she just realized that given the choice, Marcie would probably MUCH rather be spending all this time with Sal, but Sal can’t give her everything she really wants out of the relationship.
Get together for real! Get together for real!
If not, I will say this until the end of time – That’s what AO3 is for.
God I love these two and all their clingy, sometimes messy and complicated, friendship glory.
I mean, yeah, I ship it too, but that’s a fanfic thing, not a right now thing so.
BRING ON THE COMPLICATIONS.
SAME
Abandon ship?! Never!!
I keep seeing stuff in the comments talking about how it’s not gonna happen because Sal is canonically straight, to which I reply – this is shipping. What’s canon got to do with it?
Now that’s the spirit, sailor!
I know shipping is shipping, but if a character’s sexuality has been Very Firmly Established, then it feels a little ickier to do it, personally.
Like this isn’t a ‘character could find out they’re bi’ thing, but strip hovertext and some of Sal’s stuff implies to me that they’re very straight, and it’s not gonna deviate.
It’d be just as weird to me to ship Ethan with Amber.
Those two scenarios aren’t equivalent at all. Shipping canonically gay characters in straight pairings is not even close to the same thing as shipping canonically straight characters in gay pairings.
I get what you’re saying, that ignoring the sexuality of someone seems icky either way, but they’re fictional characters. From a real-world sociological perspective, the former is bad, but the latter is good. Actually, most of the time it’s the only way LGBT fans will ever get to see LGBT relationships between their favorite characters, sadly.
Ahhhh dammit I messed up the formatting
To be clear, I don’t explicitly have a problem with other people doing it – it’s their headcanon, after all, and I’ve got my own share. I’m just expressing my own reason of why I would very rarely do it myself.
No, that’s fine. You can do your own fandom thing. I’m just explaining my own rationale on it.
I wouldn’t do it with making a gay character anything but gay – gay characters are under represented as it is. Straight characters, on the other hand, are so common it’s not even a dime a dozen. 90%+ are straight. I have no problems saying ‘Eh, screw it, turns out they realized they’re bi/pan/multi/poly/whatever I feel like they’d call themselves’. Especially since people who thought they were very straight realize they’re not all the time.
I mean, I don’t think 90%+ are in *this* comic, but the point generally is taken.
A quick glance through the cast page (which obviously lacks a few minor characters) gives us nine confirmed or implied straight people out of 21. Which is just under half, which is honestly a higher rate than I expected for this comic!
But yeah, also recognise the point. It sometimes feels weird to me to see people make mods to make straight folk not straight in video games (depending on the game, the character and the availability of SS romance options) but it genuinely bothers me when it’s done for gay characters. One in particular where his experiences of being gay were a key part of his story (his unwillingness to pretend to be straight and procreate caused massive issues with his noble family) REALLY upset me when I saw a mod to allow female characters to romance him, because it’s disrespecting who he is on a fundamental level which is not only echoed in his own story, but also seen very commonly in the world.
(Rant/ramble over.)
Which game is this?
Oh boy. Was that example from Dragon Age: Inquisition by any chance?
Genuine question:
In the case where you ship a ship that doesn’t work for sexualities of those involved, does writing a gender end fix that makes it work make it less or more ick?
I am not sure honestly. I have a complicated relationship with gender bent fic.
I personally wouldn’t write it, but for all I know, another author doing so is a trans person who sees a lot of themselves in said character and their relationship and it’s not my place to come down on that. It’s also really really not my place to interrogate people and find out if that’s the case. So when I see fics like that, I usually scroll past them.
That is, when the ship is turning a gay character straight.
Gender bends in general? I dunno. I know a lot of people prefer to do trans head canons instead, and those are great, but I’m not sure whether or not that’s just another form of gender bending? Personally, as someone who gets pretty frustrated by huge franchises I love having major male characters outnumber major female characters 2 to 1 at the very least, looking at art or fic where some of those guys were girls was empowering for me when I was younger. I also know GNC guys who felt similarly about having very feminine girls gender bent into GNC guys so….yeah, it’s complicated.
I don’t think they’re addressing it toward non-canon shippers like you (and me). Some people actually want their ships to become canon, and in this case those people are gonna be disappointed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fair enough.
To be fair, she wouldn’t be the first straight girl to get into a same gender relationship
“I’m a straight girl whose soulmate is a woman.”
I debated linking to the comic “Identity” where 15-year-old Erika says, “Girls are so pretty…Too bad I’m straight.”
Reading your comment, my first thought is Emily from Misfile.
Well this might break Sal. She wants the best for Marcie, but she’s straight as a stick
some delightful bends but no real curves?
something something wet pasta
Everyone’s straight until water is added to the pot
I think you mean pasta is straight until you get it wet
I’m hoping they can get get past this revelation like Joyce and (less so) Becky did. Sal might, initially, TRY, out of her love for Marcie, and Marcie will, most-likely, reject this idea because it’s a feckin’ insane, mummers fantasy. Hopefully Marcie’s honesty will end with them growing closer, instead of making things awkward, again, but, honestly, it could go either way; at this point.
OH
Sal reviews her life the way we reread the archives. Oh, indeed.
And here I thought Willis promised no trucks.
Imaginary trucks though
The fuck truck has no brakes!
At least it was not Trucksan else her mind will end up in another world.
We could then have a fantasy world manga/manhua.
We will follow the adventures of he mind in this new world of high fantasy.
What cheat power will she inherit to help here fight the Demon Lord in the coming apocalypse?
Act with horny
Many regrets
[applause gif]
Did our Lesbian Love Sleuths totally miss this?
have they… met… malaya?
i mean
marcie
whoops
Becky has never, and Joyce has shared a few strips with Marcie but barely if ever talked with her.
Given Joyce does not sign, I’d say they’ve had 0 conversations.
Marcie uses her phone to type when she wants to talk to people who don’t know ASL, so Joyce not knowing it is not an insurmountable obstacle. But as far as I recall they haven’t had a conversation.
They never really met Marcie, only Sal and Malaya. It is fair that they missed Marcie’s crush on Sal.
((Then again, everyone except Walky and Mike has a crush on Sal.))
No, Becky saw it coming, but she didn’t push the issue.
Appropriate avatar for today’s strip is appropriate.
She even was worried about this exact eventuality coming to pass- but even with sal removing the toxic elements of this subterfuge the results were still (un)surprisingly catastrophic. It’ll be interesting to see how this arc differs from Becky’s (other than shotgun dad) and how she reacts to all this
Likely they just didn’t know Marcie, well enough (or, really at all), to assume anything. And Joyce has only, barely, met Malaya. So trusting them to “lesbian sleuth” this one out was ill-advised.
Sal also gave up on the plan very obviously, right in front of Malaya, embarrassing Marcie in front of her crush for something that was Sal’s idea
Considering the alternative was “kiss your friend on Malaya’s command,” I think the means by which she gave up the plan are acceptable.
I agree with TemporalShrew. It’s definitely best to not kiss people whom you don’t want to kiss. It’s also fine that she wasn’t able to think of an instant out that would save face for Marcie. She can even go back and fix it with Malaya later as needed.
More importantly, when has doing what Malaya says ever turned out to be a good idea?
That wasn’t the only alternative. “I’m not comfortable kissing in front of you to prove my relationship” would have been an appropriate response. Then, if Sal wasn’t comfortable continuing the plan, she could have told Marcie privately and they could have casually “broken up”. But the plan was Sal’s idea, so she should have had at least a little commitment and made more effort not to publicly embarrass Marcie.
I’m almost ready to declare Sal a more problematic character than Lucy.
She didn’t think of it.
Sal wasn’t comfortable going that far. I cannot stress enough that it’s really unfair for people to expect she should have gone through with it.
No, them making out in public was not Sal’s idea. It was Carla’s.
Cursed heterosexuality!
*plays the opening song to B.J. & The Bear on a hacked P.A. speaker*
The only words I remember from that are, “And best of all, I don’t pay property tax.”
Places new
And, ladies too
Cue up Meat Loaf, you know which song
I fucking love these two.
And I guess Joyce and Sal have one more thing they could potentially bond over, though they probably will stick to other topics.
With the Shenangans rules that means those two would hook up at some point in the future (Joyce/Sal).
Shenanagan clause is too strong in slice of life dramedies.
With the Shenangans rules that means those two would hook up at some point in the future (Joyce/Sal).
Shenanagan clause is too strong in slice of life dramedies.
Ah yes, JoycexBecky, the redux.
Poor Sal. Not only is she Marcie’s Malaya. She is also her Joyce. Not a great day for her coolness factor.
JoycexBecky is a better ship name than Jecky. No one has probably ever called them that but I just thought of it and it’s bad enough to share.
There’s definitely a fanfic there – in the day they’re perfectly fundie church acceptable friends, but at night everything changes…
Although I can’t think of a good in universe reason for their alter ego pairing to be called Hydie.
You mean, besides the obvious “They hide the true nature of their relationship” ?
Nonononono, what I mean is I’m really thick and completely failed to notice that
If it’s any consolation, I saw it because I’m the kind of thick who can only see what’s truly, completely, obvious. That tends to be overlooked by a lot of smart people.
“Ya meet ’em on the playground…”
Marcie and Becky should talk. Bond over their hopeless Crushes on their best friends.
*looks up the right hemisphere of the brain* yep, that tracks with Sal’s reaction.
Does the Fuck Truck have any regrets?
To steal from Fart Captor’s patreon comment
Act with horny
Many regrets.
None of its own, but it carries a cargo of regrets that it leaves scattered in its wake.
Yay! New lettering convention!
Boo! Poor Marcie!
Is that the right side of Sal’s brain getting gelatinised by the fuck truck?
(Side question: are you in/from W.A./Perth?)
No, it’s about not conforming to people’s preconceptions.
Though there is a chap in WA who has the same unusual name that I do.
Dumbing of Age Book 9: [just the last panel]
DoA Book 9: The Fuck Truck
I’m super disappointed Fuck Truck isn’t in the tags.
The Fuck Truck
Soon will be making another run,
The Fuck Truck
Promises something for everyone
(Welcome aboard! It’s FUUUUUCK!)
Gotta love it when your brain gets hit by a truckload of fuck.
I want that trailer for Optimus Prime!!
I didn’t expect that! Thank goodness aal didn’t follow through with the kiss.
Sal’s face went full Walky.
That was my first thought on the last panel
NOW KISS
And now Sal has another thing in common with Joyce.
Does promising to do anything for someone and repeatedly demonstrating just how literally you mean that count as sending mixed signals?
Awwww….
ALL HAIL THE FUCKTRUCK. PROUD LIEUTENANT TO THE SUPERBOWL FUCKTOMB.
I KNEW IT!
Willis, how many lesbian ships you gunna sink by making them straight????
JoycexBecky, JoycexDorothy, SalxMarcie, Daisyxeveryone…
If we ever find out there are dimensions where our fiction is real, Willis will feel terrible about creating Daisy.
Well, that explains a few things. Why Marcie followed sal when she moved for example.
I feel a bit sorry for sal. This can get really complicated and messy now. Friendships with one – sided feelings are not easy.
Also, this is how you should react if a friend tells you they have a crush on you and you’re not interested. Take notes malaya.
It gives a whole lot of irony to this strip though:
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/04-it-all-returns/puppy/
All that sal said is true and applies to both malaya and sal.
Wow. That is a good one. Also explains the irritated face Marcie makes and why she’s distracted in that comic.
It might also be part of why Marcie cut sal off during the aftermath of this incident. That she took sals advice at face value but applied it to sal herself instead of malaya.
This one is notable too:
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/fuck/
That must have hurt.
Wow. I mean, it makes sense, but… wow.
Sal and Marcie need to talk this out like Joyce and Becky did.
Well. Hopefully it can go a little more smoothly than that conversation did.
Is that an OPTIMUS PRIME fuck truck?
Fucktrucktimus Prime.
I think Marcie just broke Sal’s brain.
…huh. I thought it was obvious that Sal was Marcie’s first crush, and that Sal was oblivious because Marcie is not good about expressing interest.
What i don’t get is the truck smashing half of Sal’s brain. I haven’t read the first comic Willis did so this is my first interaction with these characters – is the truck a reference? Or is it just a “stunned surprise” realization?
Even if it is a reference to something, it’s still illustrating her surprise, so I’m not sure why that would make a difference to you?
Well, there’s a lot of discussion of the truck. It feels like a reference and i’d like to know what i’m missing.
Ruth was killed by a truck in the Walkyverse. That’s all the discussion is about.
A bit higher up Delicious Taffy called it “A truckload of fuck”. I think that’s what it’s mainly meant to convey. Of course it’s also a truck and Ruth got killed by one in another comic by Willis and now trucks are a morbid running gag.
Also
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/truck/
Becky and Marcie should start a club.
Yeah that’s par for the course.
Hmm. But when was this? Before or after Sal landed Marcie in hospital? Inquiring minds want to know!
“You were my first Malaya” is the BEST way to pick this thread back up.
Oof, been there.
Hey; she’s got a type. . . a broad type, considering the differences in personalities, but a type none the less.
Yeah. Straight girls.
I’m p sure Mal is into girls, just not this one in particular
I don’t think it’s been revealed yet. My guess is Malaya is ace.
She could bond with Amber over that.
It’s Truck-kun’s cousin Fuck Truck-san.
Fuck Truck’s fantasy role-playing name is Braincleaver.
Damn, now I need to filk “Heartbreaker” as “Braincleaver,” but I also need to pass out for the night. What to do, what to…[conk]
Is the Fuck Truck a Freightliner?
Is that Optifuck Prime?
I wonder if Malaya picked up on this (Marcie being into Sal, or at least having some longing or whatever there), and that’s why she thought Sal was being genuine.
well then…..
Oh, you and your trucks fucking your characters 😛
Does this sound like Transformers fanfic to anyone else?
Awwww….
Headcannon: rather than fingerspelling Malaya’s name, they have a nickname for her that’s to Sal’s liking. Marcie just literally signed “you were my first irritating bongo” or some such.
It’s an M followed by a middle finger.
I like it. You can do a 180 with your hand with some real attitude.
I’m really glad Magnus Chase taught me how to finger sign M so I could get how hilarious that motion is
Lol you mean give her a name sign? Every deafie I know says only deafies can give you one, but since neither are actually deaf… Yeah guess Sal could pick it. But Marcie wouldnt it be intentionally bad, it’d have to be a double entendre
“Act with integrity… no regrets!”
– Sal’s right brain
Oh dear. This must have hurt
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/fuck/
Thanks, Satan. 🙂
I think that Marcie was over it by then? As in she knew very well that Sal was straight and that it wasn’t happening, and this conversation was in bounds of what she could handle? But the stitches are reopening now because almost kissing someone is very much not in those bounds.
Shhhh, let me have my angst. 😛
Plenty of that to go around 🙂
I think that there is a big test ahead for Sal and Marcie. Specifically, whether their friendship is strong enough to survive Marcie’s feelings of guilt and Sal’s awkwardness at this revelation. It would be easier to just go their separate ways rather than confront this but that would be a shame, I think.
Easier if they were casual friends, but Sal and Marcie have been through a lot. It is possible to be friends with people who you are attracted to and aren’t interested in a relationship, as long as there’s trust.
Oh no
So, who do you think we’re going to inevitably cut to tomorrow? My money is on Danny -3-
I’m going to say Jason to show how Galasso’s is doing, just for a longshot guess.
TRUKK NOT MUNKY
What I wonder now, did Malaya figure this out and this is both one of the reasons she gave sal crap and why she pressured the kiss.
I don’t she’s quite to that level of mastermind. Her primary accusation against Sal is that Sal is some kind of poser. Having bad gaydar for your best pal isn’t a strong crime.
I mean, obviously. But things aren’t always obvious to the people in the moment.
Also, is Marcie signing M-A-L-A-Y-A at turbo ASL speed each time, or some kind of abbreviation?
Most likely, Marcie has a unique sign for each person she signs about a lot. One of my sisters works with deaf kids, and she says they tend to invent unique signs to refer to specific people by name.
Yeah a name sign. It’s like choosing kanji for your name – can make the longest name go down to one gesture /2 characters
Cool!
https://soundcloud.com/mezquito/madonna-power-of-goodbye-mezquito-remix
(The official Madonna Video was to awful to link)
And it works to just let the romantic love part go and be friends still.
Might take some time.
Really was a mindfuck there
ITYM mindtruck
You mean they didn’t resolve this before?
I suspect that Marcie is very aware that Sal doesn’t think of her that way and so has been trying to let no hint of her feelings out. However, she’s only human and it has still been affecting her behaviour towards Sal in a thousand different ways.
“What starts with an F and ends with an UCK”
“FIRET-”
“FUCK TRUCK!”
Oh, snap. Marcie may have been interested in Malaya all this time, and Sal may have been jealous of Malaya for spending so much time with her best friend, but has Marcie also been hoping Sal would get jealous for a different reason all this time as well?
Also, any idea why Malaya likes spending time with Marcie? Other than the obvious one that she doesn’t hear Marcie say a lot of stuff that triggers her.
I’m guessing Marcie had moved on.. or THOUGHT she’d moved on, but this rekindled it in her.
You said there would be no hitting with trucks.
DAMN YOU WILLIS!
Maybe Marcie and Becky can form a support group.
Well great, now Sal’s brain will get sent to another world. Thanks a lot, Mind Truck-kun.
At least she won’t be a useless NEET MC.
That Time Sal Was Reincarnated As A Ukulele
I really like the first panel, and the background in the second panel. Just very nice drawings and interesting framing of the conversation.
Also, aw Marcie. I think we all suspected this but it’s still hard to see you admit it
What part of campus is that frame showing?
I sometimes use satellite & street images to hone in on where these scenes take place and re-imagine them as live action.
Think those are the infamous “dumping stairs” outside Read/Beck
I hate those stairs
Yep, just found them. Thanks for the tip.
It’s always a bit wacky to see these iconic BGs in real life. I live near the Washington DC Hilton Hotel where Pres Reagan was shot years ago. For anyone who’s ever seen the news footage and remembers the stone wall behind him, it too is eerie seeing it up close and in person.
Pretty sure it’s the west side of Read.
Oh no, Sal’s brain is broken.But is good to see Marcie be honest about that.
DOA9: You Were My First Malaya
Also, Damn You, Willis!
RIP Sal’s brain
Acted with integrity, no regrets
Act with integrity? No, regrets.
Oops, you shouldn’t have that bar association logo there either.
I thought this situation would only be awkward for one reason but turns out it’s awkward for several!
OF COURSE she was her first Malaya…
I hope it goes in a different direction than BeckyXJoyce. But I guess every gay character has to have a straight foil (okay not everyone, but.. )
It’s tough, I know. It’s tough to want to give someone you care about what they want but to know you can’t be what they want you to be. It’s tough to fail a close friend like that.
But it’s not your fault.
The Fuck Truck hits like a train.
Kudos to all who saw this coming because I totally didn’t.
Same
All aboard the fuck train! Woo woo!
(But seriously, if I were in Sal’s position here, I would have no idea what to do. It’s such a confusing situation that, unless you suddenly figure something out about yourself that you didn’t know, you are stuck in a lose-lose situation.)
the fucktruck deserves its own tag
Alternative text in panel 3: “I haven’t been straight with you…”
Heh? Heh?
Sorry
Well, something‘s been killed by a truck, at last.
Also I love Sal’s “relieved she didn’t mess up”/”concerned her friend is going through a real thing that’s probably not going to end happily”/”did you just compare me to Malaya?” face.
Also, my prediction is we’re probably due for a character discovering she’s not, against her best wishes, queer. As painful as it will be for every woman loving women out there.
We just had that with Joyce, though – why are we “due” for another one?
I forgot about that. Hopes kindled!
Called it… but no idea where it’s gonna go from here
I’m concerned that, whether or not Marcie means it, Sal’s goibg to interpret this as that she also was mean and drove Marcie’s other friends away.
Your brain is full of fuk, and also kaput!
Shenangan rules of TV shows dictate that this will lead to Joyce/Sal awkward kissing in the future due to talking to each other about their respective friends.
likely drunk.
and choosing to never speak of it again but knowing a bit more about themselves (one way or another)
I REALLY should have seen this coming.
Marcy and Becky need to start a support group or something.