A bi friend of mine described once having difficulty NOT ogling her neighbour in the gym shower room. (It was an older woman, and she seemed oblivious to my friend’s corner-of-the-eye peeking.)
So it’s definitely a thing that happens, anyway. Don’t know if Becky would do such a thing herself, though.
Speaking from the experience of being bi, it is possible to look without being crude or making the other women uncomfortable. I’ve not only checked out women in the shower, I also check out women who are walking down the street or in a store, but most of them never notice because I’m not hollering, “HEY BABY, SHOW ME YOUR TITS!” or “SMILE, HONEY!” at them. 😐
You sure? 🙂 I have three friends (two males and a female) that when they told their dates something like “actually I DID checked you a couple times before, yet I know you did not notice”, and got “honey, that I did not react do not means that I did not notice”.
Theory: Becky was just happy to be taking a real shower for the first time in who knows how long. We don’t know a lot of details about her time between getting kicked out of Anderson and showing up at Joyce’s dorm; she could have had to take a Starbucks-restroom sponge bath or two in the interim.
*DING DING DING* Someone give Gigafreak a cookie! Just used some of your human “Paint”, smudged the face colours over the enlarged eye, then copy-paste-flipped Becky’s eye. Not the best job, but looks OK…
Didn’t make it, nowhere enough skill, just found it on 1 of my many internet wanderings. Might be from DeviantArt, could search that for original. Figured I needed at least 1 more pic, Don’t have 1 of me with a ring, Prime does look cool (for a goody goody), so it’ll do…
DARN IT! I KNEW I WAS MISSING ONE! (context: I have a sticky note on my computer devoted to window puns. Proof:
Window puns:
1 pain in the butt
2 see through you/him/her/it/them
3 One way conversaton.
4 Window of oppertunity (use as bad one)
5 Been framed (must be used in middle)
6 Reputation's been staned
7 don't have any glass (think class)
8 Shudder to think
9 Feeling blinds
10 (something) Shattered
11 Is that clear?
12 Microsoft Windows window
13 shattering glass cealings
14 Window shopping
15 Window window shopping
16 Most transparent buisness around!
17 Let some light on the situation
18 Screening
19 pain = plain
If that takes up everything, I’m sorry. I was hoping <code> would have a smaller box with a scroll bar.
Cool. Let me know (in dreamcatcher) when you’re caught up. My username there is “crazyhead42”. It is only a matter of time until I change my name here to that as well.
I once went to a bar that had a sign in the men’s room, “Please Don’t Eat the Urinal Cakes”. Why would they need that if their regular patrons didn’t find them pleasingly tasty?
A coworker taped a sign above the urinals that said “Please don’t eat the giant mints” because he’d seen it somewhere else before and thought it was funny. Probably something similar.
That ol’ timesheet only extends to “The Whiteboard Dinding Bandit”, but the archive shows that there are three more days after that and we are actually in “Three’s a crowd”, so yes, today’s exactly one week later!
Amazistool, that’s not someone whose straight with an exception, because she’s had multiple exceptions she doesn’t want to admit. She later changes her personal definition to undefinably queer.
At first, I somehow mixed up Jo and John (I don’t know how this happened. I am ashamed.), which was less disturbing. Then it occurred to me “No, that’s not right, he’s named John.” and then “Oh her. Jolene ‘Brooksie’ Brooks. Welp, thats disturbing alright.” (Jolene as Joe is weird but OK, Joe however as Brooksie, especially here is not good.)
more people just means larger scale shenanigans.
get them large enough, and no one can punish you!
the punishability of lesbian shower shenanigans are directly opposed by their volume of sexiness.
She could “slip” and need to hold on to someone.
She could enter an occupied booth “by mistake”.
She could offer to wash someone’s back.
She could offer to “mediate” in Grace and Mandy’s lover quarrels.
She could ….
“It’s a communal shower, anyone could walk in. What kind of shenanigans could they get away with? Wouldn’t they get in trouble?” Having lived in a co-ed by wing dorm, and having participated in activities that fall under the umbrella of “shenanigans,” I can reliably say: a LOT.
Joyce doesn’t even know Billie is bi. She assumes that Billie’s high school hanky-panky with Alice was “just a mistake” and that Billie’s current love interest is of the male persuasion.
There’s no kitchen? I guess we haven’t been shown one, but I just assumed there’d be a large open kitchen at one end of the commons. At least that’s how all the dorms I’ve seen in the Netherlands are laid out.
They’re not commonly used for sex, though. Then again, in Dutch dorms everyone has a room to themselves. 🙂
Not having lived in dorms yet, I dunno, but my faith in the United States’ educational systems is far too feeble to believe that many of our colleges include kitchens in dorm buildings.
Some of the floors have a small kitchen (stove, oven, sink, and some counter space) and others do not, but if you want to use a kitchen and your floor does not have one, you can always use another floor’s
Damn, I hope that’s not typical of American dorms. Cooking your own meals tends to be cheaper and healthier, and if you team up with a few floor-mates so you’re cooking for multiple people and can rotate the shopping, cooking, and washing-up duties, it doesn’t take a lot of time and effort, either.
American colleges are where young adult Americans are taught to eat out every night, and never cook healthy food for themselves. On my entire campus, there was one small dorm that had kitchens (they were reserved for ‘special needs’ people), everyone else had meal programs, and went to one of several very worrisome food outlets on campus. Food quality was actually lower than you’d expect from fast food, but it was free, so we ate it. Once they graduate, they are habituated to fast food, and think it manna from heaven.
At my alma mater, the dorm cooking facilities consisted of a microwave behind the front desk that you could ask whoever had drawn desk duty if you could use. Mostly it got used for popping popcorn. Having hot plates, crock pots, and the like in the rooms was against the rules – though one of my roommates had one anyway, which we kept hidden (along with my sword) during room inspection. He made a lot of ramen in it. I just subsisted on stuff that didn’t require cooking. Ham sammiches, mostly.
We had the cafeteria on the ground floor of our dorm, but the students weren’t allowed to use those facilities, and the food service we had has been ruled unconstitutional to use in prisons, on grounds that it’s cruel and unusual punishment. (Not joking.) There was a Rathskeller (also operated by the food service) that had better food, but it was expensive and wasn’t included in the (mandatory) meal plan, so eating there meant that you were paying actual-restaurant prices for food that was maybe Wendy’s-level, on top of paying for the crappy cafeteria food that you weren’t actually eating.
The college is in the middle of nowhere. The first year I was there we’d routinely drive thirty miles to the nearest McDonald’s, because it was so much better than the cafeteria food. (And gas was under a buck a gallon then, so even with my V8 wagon, that was still cheaper than eating at the Rat, especially with transport costs divided up among the ten people you could cram in the thing in reasonable comfort.) Second year, they built a McD’s just down the hill, and on any given night it was difficult to find a table because it was so packed with college students.
There was an interesting discussion here a few months ago IRL, during which the merits of hot plates, and the suitability of an upside down iron propped between two rocks as a substitute for said hot plates was discussed.
Which I suspect means there probably isn’t much of a kitchen, or at least possibly only one for the building (maybe a microwave and a sink in the corner of the common room or something). I suspect most students are expected to eat at the cafeteria.
I also suspect it means that not all dorms have kitchen facilities.
Look out for the one that doesn’t wear shoes. She is a piece!…Oh and there’s a really desperate blonde one and a red head but NOT the one with glasses and…ect..You know what it would take all day.
Speaking of confused, I think newllend meant “variety” but it’s entirely possible that you knew that already and were just running with the typo for humor’s sake, so yeah.
OK, I’ll emit it, I chuckled! That last panel just made my decision even harder. I’ve done fan art of Robin, and of Roz from Shortpacked! Anti-Joyce from Its Walky!.. Yet can’t decided what I want to do from DOA. I older comments almost made me sketch Billie in Amazigirl’s outfit, but this panel just yells; “draw Becky!”
I struggled with this misconception right up until the moment I realized that someone being male doesn’t mean I’m into them. After that epiphany, it seems painfully obvious.
That being said, as a dude, I’m PRETTY game for standing in a room full of half naked ladies who don’t think “EEEK a half naked dude standing in this room of half naked ladies”
Also see: realization that just because two people are gay and the appropriate gender doesn’t mean they’ll hit it off or anything. I had that one in the middle of a chat with a gay gamer dude, I was all “oh, I know another gay gamer dude, maybe you two should date….wait, him being a gay gamer dude doesn’t actually guarantee compatibility” and he was like “ya think?”
I was a 19yo shut in, lol, my matchmaking game was not exactly strong lol…
Except I’m pretty sure this is still how hetero matchmaking works, so the misconception isn’t limited to gay people. “Hey you’re into ___? I know someone else who’s into ____! You two should meet! You’d be perfect together!”
Unless my idea of matchmaking is based on really bad matchmakers, in which case just ignore that. 😀
To be fair, that isn’t what she said. A variety of women there, it’s not inconceivable one would be her type. That said, Becky may have been sassing her in her response.
My friend tries to hook me up with chicks that are also black. But I’m also pretty not picky so It’s usually into ’em. It’s less I’m not attracted and more I’m not gonna try to date ’em.
Becky’s 18 (or 19, I have no idea when americans enter college), the chance of her enjoying at least some of the sights in a room full of semi-naked and decently atractive women are pretty good.
We start at eighteen, but some of us may have just turned nineteen at the start of the year, depending on the date of the cut-off point for Kindergarten or Pre-K.
So either she wasn’t listening in while pretending to sleep, or she was but didn’t feel the need to tip her hand (or just simply had nothing productive to add to the conversation).
And Joyce, whatever else, is HELPFUL; she might have moral qualms about what you do, but above all else, Joyce wants to make you happy. 🙂
I worded that awkwardly – let’s put it like this: either Becky “wasn’t pretending to be asleep to listen in” (and thus REALLY asleep), or she WAS listening in while pretending to sleep, but doesn’t want to give it away yet.
Is that clearer? The possibility that Becky was listening in while pretending to sleep and wants to talk about Joyce & Sarah’s philosophical/theological/ethical discussion is discounted because she’s had the opportunity right here and let it go.
…I suppose there’s the possibility of Becky remaining asleep but subconsciously hearing the discussion, but I can’t see how that’d immediately affect things; maybe subtly in how she behaves around Joyce and/or Sarah, but apart from deja vu
J:”So I’ve been doing some soul-searching trying to reconcile my faith with my friendship and support of you-”
B:”…wait, didn’t you tell me that already? You were doing biblical research, right?”
J:”…uh, no?”
…I don’t see such a turn of events as being significant.
I’m all for Joyce making changes, but that last line seems super out of place for her. The homo might be fair game now, but it’s totes pre-marital lusting in your heart, just as if they were all nekkid dudes.
I think part of it might be Joyce thinking that if Becky finds another girl she won’t be into her anymore, that way they can be best friends without the awkwardness. The chance of getting Becky back probably overrules her ickyness towards PMH.
Oh! Oh! Please tell me this is gonna lead to an eventual stand-off between Joyce and Mary. Now that Joyce has a lesbian friend living with her, and Ruth and Billie are together, it’s only a matter of time before Mary does something about it.
Hopefully a bit of verbal sparring with Joyce will make her see things differently, but I kind of doubt it. What if Mary makes her cry? Or calls Becky’s parents somehow? I’m honestly kind of stoked for this. I sense a feels tidal wave coming.
Sarah is gonna jump in out of nowhere and dropkick mary the instant she raises her voice to joyce, and becky will show up naked with a beanbag and a bag of cheetos.
OMG I love this. Joyce wants Becky to move on from her, because it makes her uncomfortable, and Becky having another crush makes her much less uncomfortable, and she’s so confused, but she’s such a nice person and loves Becky so much she is willing to put on her big-girl panties and be like “Yes, go forth to the showers bestie, I have many attractive floor-mates”. She’s the BFF every kid in Becky’s situation needs, who invites Becky’s crushes on double-dates and while she’s not quite resolved to the gay thing, she will be the driving force behind Becky being happy.
I love Joyce, and how big her heart is. I’m sure one day, her sister will trust her with the truth, and will find her place in Joyce’s heart unchanged.
Also, one of Joyce’s favorite topic of conversation seem to have been Finding-The-Man-To-Marry-And-Have-Lots-and-Lots-of-Children. She’s still doing that, she’s just changing target demographic to ship Becky with
Joyce, I admire the effort, but I suggest you not encourage your friend to leer at your neighbors while they are half-naked. (I’m sure Becky will behave of course, but yeah.)
No, I actually think she has made up her mind to be OK with the fact that Becky is attracted to her, even when they share a bed, a room and a shower. Homophobic shenanigans averted.
I think Joyce would be about as open to shower with Becky as with any other woman in the wing, so you are probably right (unless she and Becky have a more touchy feely relationship from when they were small), but to me it seems like tries not to let Becky’s homosexuality get in the way of continuing their relationship as before. She didn’t make a fuss of their sleeping arrangement for example.
I think Joyce is far more worried for Becky going to hell than worried that she will make out with her.
Becky’s going to meet Daisy and will wear the same expression Walky had on his face when he first met Dorothy.
Or maybe vice versa. Have a feeling Daisy might fall hard for Becky. It’d be cute.
Ooh, yes, that sounds like it could be a good match-up.
I wonder how they would meet, though. Is being editor-in-chief of the IDS a full-time job, or is she also a prof or something?
Hmm. Didn’t think of that. I thought Daisy was an upper class man who was the editor of the school newspaper, but I don’t think it states anywhere if she’s a student or not.
Then again, Becky’s not a student there either.
Idk but if Becky seeks employment at the paper (should it prove available) that’s a golden opportunity for puns about Agatha and “openings” and “positions” and I am seriously biding my time waiting for this to happen.
I’m probably going to be attacked for this, but I’ve always been a bit bothered by mixture of homosexuals and the standard (erroneous) societal assumption “we seek to avoid people feeling uncomfortably peeped at, so thus we will segregate by gender, and thus you may assume nobody in the room is desiring your body”. That *is* the only reason for gender-segregated bathrooms/showers, and gay people are a giant ole’ monkey wrench in the traditional-assumptions-system. And I can think of no way to reconcile a homosexual’s reasonable sexual interests with the reasonable desire of people to be protected from leering – at least, no way that isn’t horrible. The whole situation is troubling to me.
Or everybody gets used to it long before leering becomes an issue, and then keeps lust confined to appropriate times & places. Is that really so difficult? *sigh*
Wherever there are straight men and attractive women, there will always be leerers. Not to say that there won’t be offenders of other sexualities or gender identities, just that heterosexual men (or really any men who are attracted to women) tend to be easily tempted.
And on the flip side, even if I assumed that everyone else was a straight guy and had no interest in me, I’ve never been comfortable changing in any locker room scenario (never mind public showers, which I have managed to avoid all my life). So it’s not like keeping the gays out would make everyone more comfortable anyways.
Honestly, as a straight guy, I’m no more comfortable getting naked with straight guys than with gay guys. There isn’t going to be any banging going on either way, and I don’t like to unsheathe it if I’m not going to use it.
There’s nothing worse than useless nudity. However, there is a simple solution.
From now on, whenever you are naked, you must go to the pee. Then your unsheathed sword will always have a use.
Any place you can get naked is likely to have a toilet, urinal, and/or shower drain. If not, just pee on the floor. Why not.
I have never understood why anyone gives the slightest shit what is going on inside the minds of other people who are behaving outwardly respectfully toward them. Why does anybody -care- if somebody privately thinks they’re hot, but respects your physical and social boundaries?
Pretty much this, I’ve always felt a bit awkward when I’m changing with people around, but I’ve never even considered whether they might be interested in me or not. Unless people behave inappropriately why would anyone care, heck I’d be far more worried about the proliferation of phone camera’s these days.
> And I can think of no way to reconcile a homosexual’s reasonable sexual interests with the reasonable desire of people to be protected from leering – at least, no way that isn’t horrible. The whole situation is troubling to me.
In what way specifically is “private showers for everyone” horrible? There are lots of reasons someone might not want everyone to see their body.
Well, there’s the cost issue of building separate facilities of all kinds for everyone everyplace, but in general I was worrying about situations where we are currently dumping groups of people together to do nudie activities and segregating them based on gender. The hundreds of millions of existing private bathrooms in private residences aren’t really under discussion.
And the type of horrible things I want to avoid are “separate (but equal) facilities for gays! Now shark-free, with limited asbestos and societal protection on alternate weekends!”
Not really, they’re gender segregated because straight guys, at the least, will harass the crap out of women while they’re changing. It’s a safety thing as much as a modesty thing.
I was sort of trying to imply that sort of thing under the umbrella of “leering” without going into excruciating detail about the kind of appalling monsters that society has somehow allowed some men to develop into.
Plus, being an equal-opportunity sort of guy, I assume that some women can theoretically be shitty too.
Glad Joyce is really trying, but I think it is as much to her own benefit, in this case, as it is to Becky’s, to go admire the scenery in the showers.
She is all into helping Becky, but if Becky finds another girl to hit on, Joyce will be much more comfortable.
Becky is smart enough, I think, not to repeat the same type of behavior that just got her kicked out of her school. Hope she uses discretion, while window shopping.
I do wonder what Mary can do in this situation? She can cause trouble for Ruth if she can prove Ruth is engaged in sex with Billie in the dorms as she’s the RA. But if Billie is not complaining, will they really do anything about it, it’s consensual. Billie was tagged as having a drinking problem when she was admitted, but Ruth has a clear record I think. Guess we’d have to wait and see.
But, she could cause problems for Becky. Becky is not a student there and shouldn’t be living in the dorms. And Becky likely has parents looking for her. So Mary could cause Becky problems if she can do it, she will.
The behavior that got her kicked out of her school was forming a mutual relationship with someone with common interests. She should feel absolutely free to repeat that, the fact that it got her kicked out of her school is the fault of her jackhole dad and a stuffy religious culture.
The actual problem for Becky is that she is not a resident and is overstaying guest limits (which is also a problem for Joyce and Sarah). Being openly (or caught) gay is just what would make her a target for Mary.
The school (or more likely, the RA association) can (and probably would) remove Ruth from her position as RA, because it’s improper for her to have a relationship with a subordinate, which is what Billie is. That could potentially jeopardize Ruth’s tuition money, her room and board, her student work study, or all of the above, depending on her arrangement, as well as get back to her grandfather and out her to her family.
Becky’s parents looking for her (if they are, and if toedad would bother to come pick her up) is less a problem than her not being a student there is. The biggest issue with Becky is overstaying the guest policy, which she might not have done yet, depending on what their campus’s policy on overnight guests is. Mary can’t do jack or shit about Becky if no one else complains about Becky’s shopping and she hasn’t overstayed the guest accommodations yet.
If I wasn’t straight, I would try really hard not to ogle other people in a communal shower, ’cause I wouldn’t feel right no matter what. Even if they were potentially interested it’s a big show of trust to show somebody you like your naked body.
She doesn’t need to go to the showers to see partly naked ladies. No-one is fully covered, so they are always ‘partly naked’. And even if ‘partly naked’ required some missing clothes, see panel 1.
I suspect the thought panel is Joyce considering that she no longer has any idea whether any of her floormates might be into women. “practically inevitable” and all that.
Does she?? I don’t remember anyone coming out to her. I know she saw the fight between Alice and Billie, but she seems to think Bilie has a boyfriend now.
To understand what I’m about to say, you guys need to know some things about me:
I am a bisex female with a lesbian girlfriend, and the only major difference between us is that she has more self-control of her pervy urges.
The thing abou this strip in correlation to me is that suddenly, I thought “Hey, wait a second… can I be that obnoxious with it like Becky was here sometimes?”
I guess it’s true what they say – sometimes you connect with a character, and sometimes you get to see yourself from an outside perspective and you may not enjoy what you find.
Feel free to window shop. xD Holy shit best line EVER. Reminds me of when I was dating this straight dude who knew I was into chicks, and he was totally cool with me checking out the ladies. (it ended up going to a creepy direction because it turns out he was a perverted dick head but WHATEVER)
That is character development right there. Either that or Joyce has always been that chill around Becky. But I think it’s character development.
I’ve dated a couple of bi women who were way more active, if more subtle, about checking out the ladies than I was. We’d pretty commonly have conversations like:
I finally caught up!!! And holy moly this is such a great comic. I agree with what Becky said to Joyce a few strips back; I’m glad she’s being so supportive of her best friend. :’D
Walky seems like the kind of dude that could introduce some pretty radical robots to the cast of this creative, fun fiction. Reference vlad – achewood.
Given how quickly Becky got the boot from the place, I’d guess that Anderson probably has particular rules about exposing flesh in communal places, e.g. requiring everyone to wear bathrobes to the showers, take them off after they’re in the stalls and put them on before opening the stall curtains.
So, recapping the obvious, Joyce is now sleeping with Becky, who is gay and wants her. And with Ethan, who is gay and doesn’t. And not getting any PMHP either way.
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Becky seems to be channelling a bit of Joe today, hmm…
More like Walky, I was thinking
Definitely Walky.
Jawlky
i kind of think becky seems to be channeling a lot of becky
yo dawg i herd u liek becky
Yeah. All she needs now is to try to subdue a mate by throwing a toy at their head.
Maybe she can borrow Li’l Jacob.
They had a kid and named her Becky.
She’s been Female Walky in every strip since she showed up.
I dunno, that expression – Becky looks more like she’s humoring Joyce than actually agreeing that she plans to oogle women in the bathroom.
I don’t know what their relationship was like before college, but something tells me that becky has spent a lot of time humoring Joyce.
A bi friend of mine described once having difficulty NOT ogling her neighbour in the gym shower room. (It was an older woman, and she seemed oblivious to my friend’s corner-of-the-eye peeking.)
So it’s definitely a thing that happens, anyway. Don’t know if Becky would do such a thing herself, though.
Speaking from the experience of being bi, it is possible to look without being crude or making the other women uncomfortable. I’ve not only checked out women in the shower, I also check out women who are walking down the street or in a store, but most of them never notice because I’m not hollering, “HEY BABY, SHOW ME YOUR TITS!” or “SMILE, HONEY!” at them. 😐
Some people have difficulty, and some people don’t.
Unfortunately for most of the bisexual dudes we’ve got a lot of bad habits to break before we can even reach that state of ‘can be, could be’.
You sure? 🙂 I have three friends (two males and a female) that when they told their dates something like “actually I DID checked you a couple times before, yet I know you did not notice”, and got “honey, that I did not react do not means that I did not notice”.
Oh, I’m aware. I did my own share of locker room glances. I’m just saying, Becky looks less enthusiastic and more “um, okay…?”
Becky looks more like she’s humoring Joyce than actually agreeing that she plans to oogle women in the bathroom.
Hey, it was Becky who mentioned “nakey scrubs time”. That was just Joyce’s reaction–look at her face between the two panels.
Theory: Becky was just happy to be taking a real shower for the first time in who knows how long. We don’t know a lot of details about her time between getting kicked out of Anderson and showing up at Joyce’s dorm; she could have had to take a Starbucks-restroom sponge bath or two in the interim.
I wanna go window shopping with Becky.
This is DOA. It’s window SHIPPING.
That was clever enough I’ll just assume Jedi mind tricks don’t work on you…
Well, I do have to learn to blend in to you humans better, I think I’ll join in too…
Where did you get that artwork for your gravatar? It looks more consensual that the kiss scene we saw in the actual comic.
Funny, I was just thinking the same thing.
Looks like Becky’s closed eyelid was just mirrored and pasted over Joyce’s fa(aaaaaaa)ce.
The rest of the scene is exactly as we saw it.
*DING DING DING* Someone give Gigafreak a cookie! Just used some of your human “Paint”, smudged the face colours over the enlarged eye, then copy-paste-flipped Becky’s eye. Not the best job, but looks OK…
That Optimus Green Lantern thing is fantastic.
(So’s this, btw).
It’s Optimus Lime.
Didn’t make it, nowhere enough skill, just found it on 1 of my many internet wanderings. Might be from DeviantArt, could search that for original. Figured I needed at least 1 more pic, Don’t have 1 of me with a ring, Prime does look cool (for a goody goody), so it’ll do…
window shopping: the best kind of shopping
Oddly enough, not very satisfying when you need a new window.
That’s cuz you’re looking at the floor model windows. They keep the GOOD windows in the back.
Yes, than can be a pane.
Out… OUT!
Bad pun. It’s curtains for you!
We’re gonna FRAME you!
DARN IT! I KNEW I WAS MISSING ONE! (context: I have a sticky note on my computer devoted to window puns. Proof:
Window puns:
1 pain in the butt
2 see through you/him/her/it/them
3 One way conversaton.
4 Window of oppertunity (use as bad one)
5 Been framed (must be used in middle)
6 Reputation's been staned
7 don't have any glass (think class)
8 Shudder to think
9 Feeling blinds
10 (something) Shattered
11 Is that clear?
12 Microsoft Windows window
13 shattering glass cealings
14 Window shopping
15 Window window shopping
16 Most transparent buisness around!
17 Let some light on the situation
18 Screening
19 pain = plain
If that takes up everything, I’m sorry. I was hoping <code> would have a smaller box with a scroll bar.
I’m afraid your list has left me a little glassy eyed, but if there were a prize for this you’d definitely win dough.
I fucking hate all of you
Good, good. Let the hate flow through you.
Don’t let it blind you though.
I shutter at the thought!
Kind of left yourselves open for that one…
Vitreous humor.
What could possibly be so bad about it? You could see what he… no never mind. My position was shattered by the lack of visible pun.
I see through these terrible pun comments. They are a a cry for help.
You’d shudder at my comments on dreamcatchercomic.com if you think these are a cry for help. But you’d probably also crack up, soo…
*reads your comments*
*shutters*
*starts reading DreamCatcher because it actually looks kind of interesting*
Cool. Let me know (in dreamcatcher) when you’re caught up. My username there is “crazyhead42”. It is only a matter of time until I change my name here to that as well.
C’mon, stop being sill-y.
My eyes are glazing over…
… that’s ok, the glassy-eyed look is good on you …
I sympathize; some of these are awful. There should be a. .. screening process.
Is this panefully obvious or blindingly brilliant? I’ll have to mullion it for a while…
“What, that pile of people on the ground? well it’s perfectly obvious, Watson. They have been (puts on sunglasses) defenestrated.”
😀 Haha! AWESOME
I like that line “I shall sample your finest wimmins”.
Sampling suggests tasting…
One hopes that does not apply to urine samples.
Yeek, we don’t need no golden showers.
we don’t need no thought control
We don’t need no stinking badgers.
Codes? We don’t need no stinkin’ codes.
All and all they’re just some wimmins’ an’ all.
Despite its name, urinal cakes are not edible.
“Edible” is such a flexible term. Definitely not a good idea to ingest, though.
Yeah, you learn that the first time you try…
Alright, the 3rd. What? I’m a friggin Alien…
I once went to a bar that had a sign in the men’s room, “Please Don’t Eat the Urinal Cakes”. Why would they need that if their regular patrons didn’t find them pleasingly tasty?
A coworker taped a sign above the urinals that said “Please don’t eat the giant mints” because he’d seen it somewhere else before and thought it was funny. Probably something similar.
HEY!
TEACHER!
LEAVE MY PISS ALONE!
It might mean licking their faces (like in the “Sandra and Woo” ad that runs on lots of webcomic sites).
Whaaaaat? No. Don’t be silly.
Think of it more like those people pinch fruits in the grocery store to see how ripe they are.
Doesn’t everyone do that?….
You have to be careful pinching fruits, sometimes they pinch back.
If she’s lucky, she’ll get to sample some Sierra…
Wow. Becky isn’t even TRYING to hide it anymore.
Good. Never hurt anything by overcompensating.
The only person she was worried about finding out now knows. Why hide it after that?
Now we just wait until Walky finds out and see what happens from there…I have certain expectations *evilly smirks*
I’m thinking his reaction will be along the lines of, “Oh, good, maybe Joyce’ll stop trying to steal my girl now that she’s got her own.”
“She’s straight.”
“Hahaha right.”
I figure he’ll be pretty mad she got tossed out of school and is homeless just for being a lesbian.
then he’ll see a sale on mcnuggets and forget about all of this.
He’ll act like he’s forgotten, but he won’t, really
Is it a week later yet?
That ol’ timesheet only extends to “The Whiteboard Dinding Bandit”, but the archive shows that there are three more days after that and we are actually in “Three’s a crowd”, so yes, today’s exactly one week later!
And even while Becky has “found out” that Joyce is straight, in the other ‘verse we already have seen Willis creating a character that is straight. with an exception..
Tomorrow! It’s Friday morning; that was last Saturday evening.
Amazistool, that’s not someone whose straight with an exception, because she’s had multiple exceptions she doesn’t want to admit. She later changes her personal definition to undefinably queer.
Go away Joe, Joyce’s my wingman now!
She got me into a bathroom full of naked ladies, what have you done for me lately!? Better yet where have you been lately !?
Standin in hallways lookin grudgy as fuck.
Joyce is best wingman
She really is.
We’re going to have a Joyce-clone, complete with sweater vest, only with red hair and freckles.
If Becky is a Joyce Clone, then Walky is a Danny Clone.
No ! one of him is already to many.
no we are going to have a female walky clone, only with red hair and freckles
And that’s hot, she’s exclusive only to the female population.
I dunno how I feel about all these redecos.
*plays Kool & The Gang’s “Fresh” on the Muzak*
“And for every hairball you remove from the stalls for me, I will look up one of their numbers in the student directory.”
And if you do 10 in a row and you will get touch my bra, as I assume that is something you people like.
Not one that I’m wearing of course, let’s not go crazy.
A hairball or a bra?
I believe she will sample your wimmins, and I’d be afraid of what she will find there.
Jo, in camoflage, doing the same thing.
There’s a female Joe?
That’s his clever disguise, obviousely.
I’m now picturing Joe and Jo (the one from Between Failures, seen in Donahugh’s gravvy below) disguised as one another.
It is profoundly disturbing.
I’m now picturing Joe and Jo (the one from Between Failures, seen in Donahugh’s gravvy below) disguised as one another.
It is profoundly disturbing.
At first, I somehow mixed up Jo and John (I don’t know how this happened. I am ashamed.), which was less disturbing. Then it occurred to me “No, that’s not right, he’s named John.” and then “Oh her. Jolene ‘Brooksie’ Brooks. Welp, thats disturbing alright.” (Jolene as Joe is weird but OK, Joe however as Brooksie, especially here is not good.)
Invisibility cloak!
I smell shenanigans.
What kind of shenanigans?
The smelly kind O_o
Well, if nobody’s showered yet it would be smelly.
That kind of smelly smell. That smelly smell that smells…smelly.
SARDINES!!!
😛
Slipshining shenanigans!
The sexy kind !
It’s a communal shower, anyone could walk in. What kind of shenanigans could they get away with? Wouldn’t they get in trouble?
more people just means larger scale shenanigans.
get them large enough, and no one can punish you!
the punishability of lesbian shower shenanigans are directly opposed by their volume of sexiness.
She could “slip” and need to hold on to someone.
She could enter an occupied booth “by mistake”.
She could offer to wash someone’s back.
She could offer to “mediate” in Grace and Mandy’s lover quarrels.
She could ….
You’re making her sound creepy. You really shouldn’t enter someone’s booth without being invited.
It’s Joe. Of course he’s creepy.
He seems to have a good set of boundaries; creepiness isn’t a given for him, even if it’s rather frequent.
“It’s a communal shower, anyone could walk in. What kind of shenanigans could they get away with? Wouldn’t they get in trouble?” Having lived in a co-ed by wing dorm, and having participated in activities that fall under the umbrella of “shenanigans,” I can reliably say: a LOT.
Did you get in trouble?
My friend’s co-ed dorm received an awkward formal letter along the lines of “Please stop having sex in the showers, semen is clogging up the drains.”
That is both disgusting and fantastic.
All 3.
*smiles*
Joyce is trying so hard to be supportive it’s adorable
She pulled a 180 so fast that I’m not sure it’s even realistic, but god damn do I love it.
Joyce has always been very “In for a penny, in for a pound”. She has her faults, but doing things half-way hasn’t been one of them so far.
So true! And since her best frame of reference for lesbians*) up to now is Billie… well, she’s not used to diversity.
*) Yes, I know she is bi
Joyce doesn’t even know Billie is bi. She assumes that Billie’s high school hanky-panky with Alice was “just a mistake” and that Billie’s current love interest is of the male persuasion.
True… and it STILL is her best frame of reference for lesbians (well, up until yesterday)
Awww, she’s trying hard to be a good sis.
Wait what?? She meant it that way?? Oh snap! I thought Joyce meant mall window shopping. Aw, that’s nice
And then once you’ve sampled, it’ll be time to eat. Since there’s no kitchen in that dorm, I suppose you’ll have to eat out, though.
Please, take this internet I wish to bequeath to you.
There’s no kitchen? I guess we haven’t been shown one, but I just assumed there’d be a large open kitchen at one end of the commons. At least that’s how all the dorms I’ve seen in the Netherlands are laid out.
They’re not commonly used for sex, though. Then again, in Dutch dorms everyone has a room to themselves. 🙂
Not having lived in dorms yet, I dunno, but my faith in the United States’ educational systems is far too feeble to believe that many of our colleges include kitchens in dorm buildings.
http://www.weareiu.com/blog/anne-rileys-blog/living-in-read-a-dorm-review
Some of the floors have a small kitchen (stove, oven, sink, and some counter space) and others do not, but if you want to use a kitchen and your floor does not have one, you can always use another floor’s
Damn, I hope that’s not typical of American dorms. Cooking your own meals tends to be cheaper and healthier, and if you team up with a few floor-mates so you’re cooking for multiple people and can rotate the shopping, cooking, and washing-up duties, it doesn’t take a lot of time and effort, either.
sorry, but in American college you better learn to enjoy the taste of dry ramen noodles and cheese.
American colleges are where young adult Americans are taught to eat out every night, and never cook healthy food for themselves. On my entire campus, there was one small dorm that had kitchens (they were reserved for ‘special needs’ people), everyone else had meal programs, and went to one of several very worrisome food outlets on campus. Food quality was actually lower than you’d expect from fast food, but it was free, so we ate it. Once they graduate, they are habituated to fast food, and think it manna from heaven.
At my alma mater, the dorm cooking facilities consisted of a microwave behind the front desk that you could ask whoever had drawn desk duty if you could use. Mostly it got used for popping popcorn. Having hot plates, crock pots, and the like in the rooms was against the rules – though one of my roommates had one anyway, which we kept hidden (along with my sword) during room inspection. He made a lot of ramen in it. I just subsisted on stuff that didn’t require cooking. Ham sammiches, mostly.
We had the cafeteria on the ground floor of our dorm, but the students weren’t allowed to use those facilities, and the food service we had has been ruled unconstitutional to use in prisons, on grounds that it’s cruel and unusual punishment. (Not joking.) There was a Rathskeller (also operated by the food service) that had better food, but it was expensive and wasn’t included in the (mandatory) meal plan, so eating there meant that you were paying actual-restaurant prices for food that was maybe Wendy’s-level, on top of paying for the crappy cafeteria food that you weren’t actually eating.
The college is in the middle of nowhere. The first year I was there we’d routinely drive thirty miles to the nearest McDonald’s, because it was so much better than the cafeteria food. (And gas was under a buck a gallon then, so even with my V8 wagon, that was still cheaper than eating at the Rat, especially with transport costs divided up among the ten people you could cram in the thing in reasonable comfort.) Second year, they built a McD’s just down the hill, and on any given night it was difficult to find a table because it was so packed with college students.
There was an interesting discussion here a few months ago IRL, during which the merits of hot plates, and the suitability of an upside down iron propped between two rocks as a substitute for said hot plates was discussed.
Which I suspect means there probably isn’t much of a kitchen, or at least possibly only one for the building (maybe a microwave and a sink in the corner of the common room or something). I suspect most students are expected to eat at the cafeteria.
I also suspect it means that not all dorms have kitchen facilities.
I think there’s lots of tacos if you wanna eat out. But if you’re not feeling thrifty, I know a place that has great clams too.
Ew, clams. Joyce just wants tacos.
Fish tacos!
Joyce: “Is this how friendship works with lesbians? Am I doing it right?”
aww, look at Joyce, trying to be all supportive!
Can we be positively sure Becky’s not related to Walky?
She just walked left a room through the door instead of the window, so she can’t have too much of Sal in her.
(Obvious joke: “Yet.”)
But she also hasn’t talked about Dexter or Monkey Master.
meh… its only a matter of time before the shirts cosmic power corrupts her anyway.
She’s wearing a D&MM t-shirt right now…
No, we cant!
I called that Theory a Month ago.
Look out for the one that doesn’t wear shoes. She is a piece!…Oh and there’s a really desperate blonde one and a red head but NOT the one with glasses and…ect..You know what it would take all day.
And, because of her situation, she really does have all day to do this in. Funny how things like that work out.
I would not object to Becky and Sierra hitting it off. After all, She’s the best character.
She sure is, and Sierra is awesome too.
Becky+Sierra would be like, perfect wedded bliss. No drama in it at all. So I wouldn’t count on it if I were you.
I know what would top that:
Becky and Dina.
or just Dina.
Not fair dropping the D-bomb.
“I shall sample your finest wimmins.”
THAT’S the spirit, Becky! You’ll fit in just fine around here.
Get in line.
To the shower stall I mean, nothing else.
I mean, it’s not like or anything.
Get in line.
To the shower stall I mean, nothing else.
I mean, it’s not like everyone is gay in college or anything.
YES! Got links working in only two attempts. Go me.
Joyce is like oh great I needed something to change the subject.
Just don’t look directly into Billie’s boobs. You may never find your way back out!
But it that might be hard to do they have some sort of hypnotic trance along side a magnetic pull.
They also turn straight girls gay, so I don’t know what they’ll do to you!
Guess it will make twice as gay, don’t know how that’s different from the normal verity but hey maybe you’ll find out
Nah, Verity wasn’t gay, I don’t think. She was Jewish, though. If you’ve been hanging out with bigots it’s easy to get those things confused.
Speaking of confused, I think newllend meant “variety” but it’s entirely possible that you knew that already and were just running with the typo for humor’s sake, so yeah.
Ruth made that mistake. Let’s all take a moment of silence to remember her. -_-
Yo Billie’s, I’m really happy for you, Imma let you finish but Billie’s ass one of the best parts of all time!
Now there’s a fine piece of advice.
Also, Ruth would properly feed her to wild dogs.
No, no, no. Ruth isn’t jealous like that. She’d never feed becky to wild dogs…
She’d rip out Becky’s femurs and feed *them* the to wild dogs.
OK, I’ll emit it, I chuckled! That last panel just made my decision even harder. I’ve done fan art of Robin, and of Roz from Shortpacked! Anti-Joyce from Its Walky!.. Yet can’t decided what I want to do from DOA. I older comments almost made me sketch Billie in Amazigirl’s outfit, but this panel just yells; “draw Becky!”
(Chuckle emissions at an all-time high!)
DRAW. EVERYTHING.
“By the way, what were you talking about just now?”
“Oh, Joyce just defied the will of God by looking for loopholes for saving her best friend’s soul.”
“Too bad you missed it. It was super hot.”
Defying god is my fetish.
Every fetish involves Defying god. He’s kind of uptight about that stuff.
I may be weird, but I didn’t create the penis and the vagina. Just throwing that out there. I ain’t makin’ up body parts, God.
What would you rather he equipped us with? Cloacas? Spore-based reproduction? Budding? Oviposters with external fertilization?
Type IV bacterial secretion system pili
Uptight? Nah. Just good at reverse psychology.
“Hey, you’re a lesbian right?” “Yeah..” “Look at her, she’s a woman. I bet that you’re into her based on nothing more than that fact!” “…”
I certainly give Joyce points for effort, but yeesh… lol 😛
I struggled with this misconception right up until the moment I realized that someone being male doesn’t mean I’m into them. After that epiphany, it seems painfully obvious.
That being said, as a dude, I’m PRETTY game for standing in a room full of half naked ladies who don’t think “EEEK a half naked dude standing in this room of half naked ladies”
Do you work as one of those living statues?
Also see: realization that just because two people are gay and the appropriate gender doesn’t mean they’ll hit it off or anything. I had that one in the middle of a chat with a gay gamer dude, I was all “oh, I know another gay gamer dude, maybe you two should date….wait, him being a gay gamer dude doesn’t actually guarantee compatibility” and he was like “ya think?”
I was a 19yo shut in, lol, my matchmaking game was not exactly strong lol…
Except I’m pretty sure this is still how hetero matchmaking works, so the misconception isn’t limited to gay people. “Hey you’re into ___? I know someone else who’s into ____! You two should meet! You’d be perfect together!”
Unless my idea of matchmaking is based on really bad matchmakers, in which case just ignore that. 😀
“Oh hey, you’re [ethnic], I should totally introduce you to my friend ____, he/she’s [ethnic] too!”
(which means, of course, you two will totally be into each other, based on that one shared data point.)
You’d be perfect for each other!
To be fair, that isn’t what she said. A variety of women there, it’s not inconceivable one would be her type. That said, Becky may have been sassing her in her response.
“Becky may have been sassing” is about as wild a guess as “Sarah may have been sarcastic”
her type is ultrachurch girls who think lesbianism is wrong.
Joyce is no longer what she wants.
So… Mary?
Ew.
Not “Ew”, “Yikes”
I have this weird feeling that Mary would be into it. I think she gets off on the hypocrisy.
I ship it.
[Exit JWLM, stage left] No! Not my femurs! I kid! I kid!
Exit chased by wild dogs.
My friend tries to hook me up with chicks that are also black. But I’m also pretty not picky so It’s usually into ’em. It’s less I’m not attracted and more I’m not gonna try to date ’em.
Becky’s 18 (or 19, I have no idea when americans enter college), the chance of her enjoying at least some of the sights in a room full of semi-naked and decently atractive women are pretty good.
We start at eighteen, but some of us may have just turned nineteen at the start of the year, depending on the date of the cut-off point for Kindergarten or Pre-K.
I started at 17. October birthday.
Willis has made the main cast 18+ to avoid legal issues with drawing them in compromising situations, though.
So either she wasn’t listening in while pretending to sleep, or she was but didn’t feel the need to tip her hand (or just simply had nothing productive to add to the conversation).
And Joyce, whatever else, is HELPFUL; she might have moral qualms about what you do, but above all else, Joyce wants to make you happy. 🙂
Pretending?
Pretending not to hear Sarah talk about Joyce’s gay boyfriend.
But how do you know she wasn’t sleeping…?
We don’t. We just don’t want to discount the possibility.
I worded that awkwardly – let’s put it like this: either Becky “wasn’t pretending to be asleep to listen in” (and thus REALLY asleep), or she WAS listening in while pretending to sleep, but doesn’t want to give it away yet.
Is that clearer? The possibility that Becky was listening in while pretending to sleep and wants to talk about Joyce & Sarah’s philosophical/theological/ethical discussion is discounted because she’s had the opportunity right here and let it go.
…I suppose there’s the possibility of Becky remaining asleep but subconsciously hearing the discussion, but I can’t see how that’d immediately affect things; maybe subtly in how she behaves around Joyce and/or Sarah, but apart from deja vu
J:”So I’ve been doing some soul-searching trying to reconcile my faith with my friendship and support of you-”
B:”…wait, didn’t you tell me that already? You were doing biblical research, right?”
J:”…uh, no?”
…I don’t see such a turn of events as being significant.
Yup. Joyce is helpful, accepting (in her own slightly clueless way) and welcoming. Becky made the right call coming here.
I’m all for Joyce making changes, but that last line seems super out of place for her. The homo might be fair game now, but it’s totes pre-marital lusting in your heart, just as if they were all nekkid dudes.
Yeah, Joyce would never stare at naked dudes… well, maybe a peek wouldn’t hurt… but no more than that!
Strictly for reference material.
Leave no whiteboard undrawn on.
I think part of it might be Joyce thinking that if Becky finds another girl she won’t be into her anymore, that way they can be best friends without the awkwardness. The chance of getting Becky back probably overrules her ickyness towards PMH.
That’s a pretty good point.
In for a penny, in for a pound. It’s not like marrying the girl first is gonna save her from hell.
Well, same-sex marriage is presumably still illegal in Indiana, so it hardly matters…
Actually, it’s currently legal. (Whatever “currently” means in terms of DoA’s sliding timeline…)
Judge Richard Posner overturned the Indiana and Wisconsin laws earlier this year. His opinion is a classic: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/rssExec.pl?Submit=Display&Path=Y2014/D09-04/C:14-2526:J:Posner:aut:T:fnOp:N:1412339:S:0
Dang, Joyce is really commiting to the being ok with the gay thing. I’m impressed
Oh! Oh! Please tell me this is gonna lead to an eventual stand-off between Joyce and Mary. Now that Joyce has a lesbian friend living with her, and Ruth and Billie are together, it’s only a matter of time before Mary does something about it.
Hopefully a bit of verbal sparring with Joyce will make her see things differently, but I kind of doubt it. What if Mary makes her cry? Or calls Becky’s parents somehow? I’m honestly kind of stoked for this. I sense a feels tidal wave coming.
The feels ocean has been receding lately, so it only makes sense that another tidal wave is coming.
Lets get to high ground so as not to drown.
If we wanted to avoid the feels we wouldn’t be here. We have to ride that wave. Heck, some of us want to drown in it.
Sarah is gonna jump in out of nowhere and dropkick mary the instant she raises her voice to joyce, and becky will show up naked with a beanbag and a bag of cheetos.
OMG I love this. Joyce wants Becky to move on from her, because it makes her uncomfortable, and Becky having another crush makes her much less uncomfortable, and she’s so confused, but she’s such a nice person and loves Becky so much she is willing to put on her big-girl panties and be like “Yes, go forth to the showers bestie, I have many attractive floor-mates”. She’s the BFF every kid in Becky’s situation needs, who invites Becky’s crushes on double-dates and while she’s not quite resolved to the gay thing, she will be the driving force behind Becky being happy.
I love Joyce, and how big her heart is. I’m sure one day, her sister will trust her with the truth, and will find her place in Joyce’s heart unchanged.
Also, one of Joyce’s favorite topic of conversation seem to have been Finding-The-Man-To-Marry-And-Have-Lots-and-Lots-of-Children. She’s still doing that, she’s just changing target demographic to ship Becky with
Joyce, I admire the effort, but I suggest you not encourage your friend to leer at your neighbors while they are half-naked. (I’m sure Becky will behave of course, but yeah.)
Joyce is trying to get Becky to look at other women to divert Becky’s lingering feelings because she’s still more uncomfortable than she thinks/looks.
Calling it.
Joyce seems to have somehow missed the obvious fact that SHE will be there, partly naked, as well. Leer away, Becky.
No, I actually think she has made up her mind to be OK with the fact that Becky is attracted to her, even when they share a bed, a room and a shower. Homophobic shenanigans averted.
Showering facility, not shower. There’s no way Joyce would join Becky for nakey-scrubs time.
Awwww. They would be best shower buddies.
I think Joyce would be about as open to shower with Becky as with any other woman in the wing, so you are probably right (unless she and Becky have a more touchy feely relationship from when they were small), but to me it seems like tries not to let Becky’s homosexuality get in the way of continuing their relationship as before. She didn’t make a fuss of their sleeping arrangement for example.
I think Joyce is far more worried for Becky going to hell than worried that she will make out with her.
Did Willis Change his mind ,
and turn the Communal showers into individual stalls ?
( or do they have both ? )
Becky’s going to meet Daisy and will wear the same expression Walky had on his face when he first met Dorothy.
Or maybe vice versa. Have a feeling Daisy might fall hard for Becky. It’d be cute.
Ooh, yes, that sounds like it could be a good match-up.
I wonder how they would meet, though. Is being editor-in-chief of the IDS a full-time job, or is she also a prof or something?
Hmm. Didn’t think of that. I thought Daisy was an upper class man who was the editor of the school newspaper, but I don’t think it states anywhere if she’s a student or not.
Then again, Becky’s not a student there either.
Yeah, I was assuming she was a student.
Idk but if Becky seeks employment at the paper (should it prove available) that’s a golden opportunity for puns about Agatha and “openings” and “positions” and I am seriously biding my time waiting for this to happen.
PUNS FOR THE PUN GOD
Jokes for the joke throne.
Harriers for the cup!
It’s super-cute how Becky wakes up in Joyce’s t-shirt.
No, I actually mean super-cute as in “she has opened up her home and wardrobe for her” rather than “they are sleeping together”
Given that they WERE sleeping together…
Well, yes, but not in the biblical sense (prays that that expression makes sense in English)
It does.
Thanks G-man, I owe you one.
It’s also a reminder of Becky’s state of mind. Apparently she really did get on that bus with nothing but the clothes she was wearing.
Free room and board, pressed and cleaned clothes, and now a free buffet? NOW THAT’S SERVICE!
I dunno, man. Yeah, there’s all that, but was there a mint on the pillow? Nope! CLearly not five star quality.
There totally was!
… damn, I remember there was a Roomies! book cover where the “gag” was that Joyce was “mint in box”, but I cannot find it on the BBR site now.
Here you go.
That explains why I couldn’t find it. Misremembered the phrasing. That kind of spoils my pun, though.
Don’t think of it as spoiling the pun. Think of it as adding another layer.
http://youtu.be/fT-Bq5tiUQE
Good news, Becky! Like half the minor cast ladies are bi.
I’m probably going to be attacked for this, but I’ve always been a bit bothered by mixture of homosexuals and the standard (erroneous) societal assumption “we seek to avoid people feeling uncomfortably peeped at, so thus we will segregate by gender, and thus you may assume nobody in the room is desiring your body”. That *is* the only reason for gender-segregated bathrooms/showers, and gay people are a giant ole’ monkey wrench in the traditional-assumptions-system. And I can think of no way to reconcile a homosexual’s reasonable sexual interests with the reasonable desire of people to be protected from leering – at least, no way that isn’t horrible. The whole situation is troubling to me.
Nudist colony. Everybody leers and everybody gets used to it!
This is either the best solution or the worst.
Or everybody gets used to it long before leering becomes an issue, and then keeps lust confined to appropriate times & places. Is that really so difficult? *sigh*
Wherever there are straight men and attractive women, there will always be leerers. Not to say that there won’t be offenders of other sexualities or gender identities, just that heterosexual men (or really any men who are attracted to women) tend to be easily tempted.
And on the flip side, even if I assumed that everyone else was a straight guy and had no interest in me, I’ve never been comfortable changing in any locker room scenario (never mind public showers, which I have managed to avoid all my life). So it’s not like keeping the gays out would make everyone more comfortable anyways.
Private bathrooms!
Honestly, as a straight guy, I’m no more comfortable getting naked with straight guys than with gay guys. There isn’t going to be any banging going on either way, and I don’t like to unsheathe it if I’m not going to use it.
There’s nothing worse than useless nudity. However, there is a simple solution.
From now on, whenever you are naked, you must go to the pee. Then your unsheathed sword will always have a use.
Any place you can get naked is likely to have a toilet, urinal, and/or shower drain. If not, just pee on the floor. Why not.
I have never understood why anyone gives the slightest shit what is going on inside the minds of other people who are behaving outwardly respectfully toward them. Why does anybody -care- if somebody privately thinks they’re hot, but respects your physical and social boundaries?
Pretty much this, I’ve always felt a bit awkward when I’m changing with people around, but I’ve never even considered whether they might be interested in me or not. Unless people behave inappropriately why would anyone care, heck I’d be far more worried about the proliferation of phone camera’s these days.
I thought the only reason for gender-segregated bathrooms/bedrooms was unwanted teenage pregnancy.
> And I can think of no way to reconcile a homosexual’s reasonable sexual interests with the reasonable desire of people to be protected from leering – at least, no way that isn’t horrible. The whole situation is troubling to me.
In what way specifically is “private showers for everyone” horrible? There are lots of reasons someone might not want everyone to see their body.
I should add that I’ve never perceived there to be a legitimate reason for everything else other than showers to be segregated.
Well, there’s the cost issue of building separate facilities of all kinds for everyone everyplace, but in general I was worrying about situations where we are currently dumping groups of people together to do nudie activities and segregating them based on gender. The hundreds of millions of existing private bathrooms in private residences aren’t really under discussion.
And the type of horrible things I want to avoid are “separate (but equal) facilities for gays! Now shark-free, with limited asbestos and societal protection on alternate weekends!”
Not really, they’re gender segregated because straight guys, at the least, will harass the crap out of women while they’re changing. It’s a safety thing as much as a modesty thing.
I was sort of trying to imply that sort of thing under the umbrella of “leering” without going into excruciating detail about the kind of appalling monsters that society has somehow allowed some men to develop into.
Plus, being an equal-opportunity sort of guy, I assume that some women can theoretically be shitty too.
Ethan problems saved by the Becky.
Postponed, anyway.
There’s the Joyce I remember and love!
Partly Naked Ladies is one of my favourite cover bands.
They do a great rendition of “Pinch Me”, which Becky might be thinking to herself, being surrounded by other wet scantily clad wimmin folk.
Glad Joyce is really trying, but I think it is as much to her own benefit, in this case, as it is to Becky’s, to go admire the scenery in the showers.
She is all into helping Becky, but if Becky finds another girl to hit on, Joyce will be much more comfortable.
Becky is smart enough, I think, not to repeat the same type of behavior that just got her kicked out of her school. Hope she uses discretion, while window shopping.
I do wonder what Mary can do in this situation? She can cause trouble for Ruth if she can prove Ruth is engaged in sex with Billie in the dorms as she’s the RA. But if Billie is not complaining, will they really do anything about it, it’s consensual. Billie was tagged as having a drinking problem when she was admitted, but Ruth has a clear record I think. Guess we’d have to wait and see.
But, she could cause problems for Becky. Becky is not a student there and shouldn’t be living in the dorms. And Becky likely has parents looking for her. So Mary could cause Becky problems if she can do it, she will.
The behavior that got her kicked out of her school was forming a mutual relationship with someone with common interests. She should feel absolutely free to repeat that, the fact that it got her kicked out of her school is the fault of her jackhole dad and a stuffy religious culture.
Nono! She can’t repeat that, she needs to lock the door remember, lock the door!
The actual problem for Becky is that she is not a resident and is overstaying guest limits (which is also a problem for Joyce and Sarah). Being openly (or caught) gay is just what would make her a target for Mary.
The school (or more likely, the RA association) can (and probably would) remove Ruth from her position as RA, because it’s improper for her to have a relationship with a subordinate, which is what Billie is. That could potentially jeopardize Ruth’s tuition money, her room and board, her student work study, or all of the above, depending on her arrangement, as well as get back to her grandfather and out her to her family.
Becky’s parents looking for her (if they are, and if toedad would bother to come pick her up) is less a problem than her not being a student there is. The biggest issue with Becky is overstaying the guest policy, which she might not have done yet, depending on what their campus’s policy on overnight guests is. Mary can’t do jack or shit about Becky if no one else complains about Becky’s shopping and she hasn’t overstayed the guest accommodations yet.
Would be a nice twist is Mary report Ruth and eventually get’s her fired for… excessive violence and bullying.
I am tempted to make a “potion seller” joke because of that last panel…
Imminent spill of blood in the ladies’ shower room is imminent.
Duh. That’s what tampons are for.
I think (s)he meant nosebleeds. And that’s definitely not what tampons are for.
But they can be used for that.
Also bullet wounds, though that’s unlikely to become relevant in DOA.
Joyce is overcompensating, and it s cute as fuck.
This.
Gosh I LOVE BECKY her sense of humor just hits me the right way <3
Oh, Joyce.
Bad, Joyce! Bad! You’re doing that for the exact reason why you shouldn’t be doing that! Bad!
If I wasn’t straight, I would try really hard not to ogle other people in a communal shower, ’cause I wouldn’t feel right no matter what. Even if they were potentially interested it’s a big show of trust to show somebody you like your naked body.
wimmins. Fan-tastic.
She doesn’t need to go to the showers to see partly naked ladies. No-one is fully covered, so they are always ‘partly naked’. And even if ‘partly naked’ required some missing clothes, see panel 1.
omfg Joyce thats quite a growth moment there.. she didn’t even make a face or cringe at it.. Man the changes close friends can bring XD
aka she’s cutely awkward and becky is just cutely awesome
I suspect the thought panel is Joyce considering that she no longer has any idea whether any of her floormates might be into women. “practically inevitable” and all that.
She has a pretty good idea that at least three of them are.
Does she?? I don’t remember anyone coming out to her. I know she saw the fight between Alice and Billie, but she seems to think Bilie has a boyfriend now.
Biliie outed Mandy and Grace to her, and she does seem to have caught the implication that Billie and Alice did hanky-panky.
As much as Joyce has plenty of amazing moments, I think this last panel is my favourite one.
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What would Joyce do if she heard Joe use that line in a similar context?
And then she falls for Mary. And everything is never ok again.
Awww Joyce is trying. So adorable.
Next up in Iiiiiiit’s Becky! Becky (who is a lesbian) goes showering aaaaand WINDOW SHOPPING! Shenanigans ensues.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/sleepover/?replytocom=464039#comment-464039
I was going to make a joke about how Becky knows how shower works, but then I remembered this
Dammit Willis, stop making me self-reflect D:
To understand what I’m about to say, you guys need to know some things about me:
I am a bisex female with a lesbian girlfriend, and the only major difference between us is that she has more self-control of her pervy urges.
The thing abou this strip in correlation to me is that suddenly, I thought “Hey, wait a second… can I be that obnoxious with it like Becky was here sometimes?”
I guess it’s true what they say – sometimes you connect with a character, and sometimes you get to see yourself from an outside perspective and you may not enjoy what you find.
Well, that’s also called character development, except a real person is involved. Enjoy!
OH MY GOD JOYCE I LOVE YOU.
Feel free to window shop. xD Holy shit best line EVER. Reminds me of when I was dating this straight dude who knew I was into chicks, and he was totally cool with me checking out the ladies. (it ended up going to a creepy direction because it turns out he was a perverted dick head but WHATEVER)
That is character development right there. Either that or Joyce has always been that chill around Becky. But I think it’s character development.
I think Erica Moen had this exact situation happen to her. “Now the fact that we like ladies is just something we have in common.”
I’ve dated a couple of bi women who were way more active, if more subtle, about checking out the ladies than I was. We’d pretty commonly have conversations like:
HER: “Whoa, did you see her boobs? Mmm-mmm.”
ME: “Who?”
HER: “Don’t turn around to look! Jeez.”
Seriously, though, who looks upon taking a shower as “nakey-scrubs time!”?
Becky does! And it’s awesome.
and this is why segregating bathrooms by gender is hilariously stupid
I finally caught up!!! And holy moly this is such a great comic. I agree with what Becky said to Joyce a few strips back; I’m glad she’s being so supportive of her best friend. :’D
Aw, Joyce, that’s so thoughtful. And have I mentioned I love Becky? I do.
Attention Everyone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdtTfQJCO2Y
That is all.
Walky seems like the kind of dude that could introduce some pretty radical robots to the cast of this creative, fun fiction. Reference vlad – achewood.
Anderson University also has communal showers, doesn’t it? I doubt it’s Becky’s first time to use one. (Not to mention high school gym class.)
Oops, homeschooling — scratch that last part.
Given how quickly Becky got the boot from the place, I’d guess that Anderson probably has particular rules about exposing flesh in communal places, e.g. requiring everyone to wear bathrobes to the showers, take them off after they’re in the stalls and put them on before opening the stall curtains.
So, recapping the obvious, Joyce is now sleeping with Becky, who is gay and wants her. And with Ethan, who is gay and doesn’t. And not getting any PMHP either way.
Who is she cheating on?
Dorothy, duh.
Joyce is the best girlfriend.
“I shall sample your finest wimmins.”
I can’t stop cracking up.
Joyce’s character development is making me soooo happy.
Reading this through again, I love how easily Becky just rolls with Joyce’s awkwardness and turns it into casual humor. <3