Now I’m imagining Joyce as Patricia Tannis from Borderlands.
“I have determined two additional things: firstly, that Sal finds it irritating when others pluck out strands of her hair under the guise of needing them for scientific experimentation, and secondly, that they taste like olives — wait, no — fried pickles.”
“I’ll just take a little clipping…
Hmm. Let’s even it out so she doesn’t notice…”
*four hours later*
“I can just.. glue a wig to her scalp.. she’ll never notice…”
The dorm I lived in for my last two years of college had a similar arrangement. Two rooms connected by a bathroom area. If I recall correctly, you could lock the door to the bathroom area from your room’s side of the door. It’s been awhile though so my memory might be sketchy on that. (I graduated in 1998).
I too am familiar with this setup and cans say it hasn’t changed since 1998. I think the doors have locks but Sal and Billie leave them open because they aren’t threatened by Joyce in the least.
Unless it’s confirmed there are no locks and I missed something.
I imagine it would vary from person to person when (and if) they locked the doors. I’m sure some people would leave it wide open even when they aren’t home. I think I usually had the door unlocked, but closed except when I wasn’t in the room or asleep. I may have even just had it shut when I was asleep. I remember my roommate and I didn’t really hang out with the people on the other side of the bathroom much, so it’s not like people were dropping in all the time. 🙂
No, that’s how ours worked, and it was fine because as long as my own deadbolt was done, next door could be as irresponsible about door-locking as they wanted to be w/o compromising my own safety.
The arrangement for THESE dorms is the opposite–the bathroom can lock [so whoever’s inside can maintain privacy], but you can’t lock out the neighbour w/o completely denying them bathroom access. Joyce thinks this is “neat” and Billie despises it.
Sure, for my dorm, that meant someone could be locked in the bathroom, but it meant that my security was not dependent on like-minded neighbours I’d never met [which is the case here, evidenced by Dorothy’s complete obliviousness to sharing the bathroom with Amber].
Considering Billie isn’t exactly responsible, Sal probably left the door unlocked so that she could get in if she stumbled back in drunk and without her keys. Alternatively, the door wasn’t locked because Sal is awake, so not really needed.
I always thought heaven had a “no killing my flock” policy. But I honestly don’t know WHAT can be prayed away. According to Moses Murder is no worse than Lying.
As I understand it you honestly have to mean it, though, and actually try to change.
Apparently “repent” has connotations of stopping traveling down the path one is on, and actively changing to a new path.
–Which means probably that bad Christians who do terrible things and then “repent” on their deathbeds because they don’t want to go to Hell won’t actually fool God, which at least is a comforting thought with some of these assholes.
There’s another religion (I can’t remember for sure but it maaaay be some form of Islam?) where after you’re dead you just have to walk across a bridge to get into Heaven. The trick is, the worse a person/religious adherent one is, the narrower the bridge is, and if you fall off, then Bad Things happen.
How to get into various afterlives is an interesting discussion…
I’d heard that everyone, except perfect people,(meaning literally noone) goes to purgatory. But Purgatory is the most painful feeling in all existance and you are purged for every individual sin you’ve commited. Like getting burned to death repeatedly until you’re purged.
That’s really only a Catholic belief though. Protestants reject the doctrine (they don’t accept 2 Maccabees as scripture), and it’s not really present in Orthodox Christianity either.
There’s an interesting form of ancestor worship in a part of Africa where if you don’t recieve forgiveness from those that you sinned against before you die, your ancestors beat the shit out of you after you die until you have paid for your sins.
Deeply, and thoroughly ( female ) Homosocial
Ironically it’s what fuels her attraction to having a relationship with Ethan
( Obviously, she is also physically attracted to him )
Willis confirmed this at some point, he alt-texted something like ‘Joyce thinks everyone is awesome —unless you are a Heterosexual male ‘
She briefly freaked with Billie when Billie Pointed out the close connection between these homo-social tendencies of Joyce, and Bi-curiousity.
My opinion is that Both gender typically at, or after puberty go through a stage of Idealized Homo-sociality.
( But Post-puberty I was suppressed closeted bisexual, so I my opinion may be biased )
For some of us, there is no boundary between homosociality and increased intimacy, its just a continuing spectrum
For some us thats true of all friendships intimacies with humans,
and the preset relationship boundaries society offers us, do not fit.
( if that describes you email/google me, maybe )
To her possible detriment I would probably let joyce enact boundary crossing behaviors that others would find creepy, because I would look into those blue eyes and find her sincerity intoxicating,
But when I got the courage to do it return I would freak her out
( because she is repressed )
I grew up with very, very long brown hair and other girls always wanted to brush it and play with it. My mom contained it in long tight braids. I always made girls mad because I wouldn’t let them brush my hair, but they didn’t believe how bad it tangled when you mess with it.
Then today a boy got mad because a kid wouldn’t let him touch his buzzed hair cut. We had a long discussion about respecting personal space and keeping your hands to yourself.
In school other girls always wanted to braid my hair. I’ve no idea why, because it’s curly. My hair is fairly unmanageable, so I guess maybe they just felt a need to tame it?
My friends used to comment all the time how my hair would go from braided to loose to braided to loose randomly throughout the day.
I’d also have girls sitting behind me in class that would “sproing” my curls all class long. Like it was a compulsion.
If only she was more like a comic book hero, you know, the kind of heroine that is always convieniently able to show up just as the stuff is about to/ already happening.
I used to have really long hair as a kid, despite being a guy. Have to say, when you’re a five year old boy with long hair, girls like to play with your hair and you don’t like that, but when you reach that age, you secretly wish that it was still like that. Girls have it easy, they always have someone to like their hair, but for guys…some times stuff don’t work out for you. Accept the brushing Sal.
Aside from the fact Joyce is a bit too… Joyce, I suspect Sal is also worried she won’t know what’s she’s doing. Even relaxed, curly/thick hair can be tough to brush out and I can already imagine the nightmare if Joyce used a hairbrush similar to one she would use for herself on Sal’s hair rather than a pick or a wide toothed comb. Coconut oil is completely lost on Joyce as well.
One strip.
Billie is walking when she and Sal eye each other in the hall.
Sal holds up the roomate agreement in her hand, a grim expression on her face.
No words spoken.
There’s always someone who you like enough to obsses about in your past, think about it. If Joyce represents his past, Sal might have represented that person in this one instance.
Yeah, there’s a particular age where our creepy side just comes out, and we don’t know how to contain or control it yet. I recall my own creepster crush quite well, and with quite a bit of embarrassment. I hope she forgives me.
You have no idea. I read them all as anime characters, and let me tell you, Sal is easily twice as awesome when you read her as sun from My bride is a mermaid, cause the southern accent, mixed with the contrast of the sweet voice with the badass personality! Danny is danny phamtom…not anime, but same first name, that’s why.
Hmm, Joyce is so fixated on Sal’s hair that she is yet to start flipping out because Billie spent last night at Walky’s. Sure she probably knows Walky treats her as a sister, but to her a boy and a girl not married sleeping in the same bed is wrong.
Allthough, did Walky mention the previous night’s incident?
O.K so Joyce is a stalker. One day we’re going to find Sal tied to a chair in a room lit by candles. Also insomnia isn’t the occasional innability to sleep. It’s a chronic inability.
pretty sure the real reason Sal didnt sleep is “worried about Billie” and she just made up the insomnia thing as an excuse to joyce. or, who knows, maybe she really does have insomnia. It did seem like she has a lot of late nights, especially back in the beginning when it was Billie who was waiting up for her to come back.
Joyce was being friendly, if a touch helicopter-y, right up until she obliquely hinted at wanting to mess w/ Sal regardless of Sal’s consent.
Willis, keep on keepin’ on. This is a great webcomic you’ve got here, and looking forward to the newest strip is easily one of both the most consistent, and biggest, highlights of my day.
Its too bad there will never be a Junior Year of Dumbing…
This one page shows the potential of a lot of relationship mishaps with Joyce that I identify with.
One thing we have not seen with Joyce is her falling “deeply in Like” with a member of the same sex, making a small fool of herself ( due to her extreme capacity for homosocial empathy ) and being rejected.
Connecting deeply with someone who rejects us , is a common social occurrence,
So far Joyce has beenonly coddled in her child-like affections.
College is exactly where these get played out and hurt
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Augh, I can’t get over the dorm arrangements! I would’ve installed a goddamned deadbolt SO FAST.
ESPECIALLY with a JOYCE next door!
No it’s fine. The worse Joyce could do is steal some of Sal’s hair and hide it under her pillow to gain some of her coolness.
Now I’m imagining Joyce as Patricia Tannis from Borderlands.
“I have determined two additional things: firstly, that Sal finds it irritating when others pluck out strands of her hair under the guise of needing them for scientific experimentation, and secondly, that they taste like olives — wait, no — fried pickles.”
I was just replaying that game last night. I love Tannis
“I’ll just take a little clipping…
Hmm. Let’s even it out so she doesn’t notice…”
*four hours later*
“I can just.. glue a wig to her scalp.. she’ll never notice…”
She could make a voodoo doll out of it.
She could make an “other Sal” out of it.
The dorm I lived in for my last two years of college had a similar arrangement. Two rooms connected by a bathroom area. If I recall correctly, you could lock the door to the bathroom area from your room’s side of the door. It’s been awhile though so my memory might be sketchy on that. (I graduated in 1998).
I too am familiar with this setup and cans say it hasn’t changed since 1998. I think the doors have locks but Sal and Billie leave them open because they aren’t threatened by Joyce in the least.
Unless it’s confirmed there are no locks and I missed something.
I imagine it would vary from person to person when (and if) they locked the doors. I’m sure some people would leave it wide open even when they aren’t home. I think I usually had the door unlocked, but closed except when I wasn’t in the room or asleep. I may have even just had it shut when I was asleep. I remember my roommate and I didn’t really hang out with the people on the other side of the bathroom much, so it’s not like people were dropping in all the time. 🙂
No, that’s how ours worked, and it was fine because as long as my own deadbolt was done, next door could be as irresponsible about door-locking as they wanted to be w/o compromising my own safety.
The arrangement for THESE dorms is the opposite–the bathroom can lock [so whoever’s inside can maintain privacy], but you can’t lock out the neighbour w/o completely denying them bathroom access. Joyce thinks this is “neat” and Billie despises it.
Sure, for my dorm, that meant someone could be locked in the bathroom, but it meant that my security was not dependent on like-minded neighbours I’d never met [which is the case here, evidenced by Dorothy’s complete obliviousness to sharing the bathroom with Amber].
Considering Billie isn’t exactly responsible, Sal probably left the door unlocked so that she could get in if she stumbled back in drunk and without her keys. Alternatively, the door wasn’t locked because Sal is awake, so not really needed.
The smile belies the NEED.
The NEED to stop overdosing on speed.
And drugs
Speed is one hell of a drug.
GOTTA GO FAS
Lol
“Ah’m hiding your brushes” You need to hide yours Sal.
Sal said “hide brushes” I think she means ALL the brushes.
The Willis giveth, and the Willis taketh away. My quote was accurate when it went up, but the line was changed between your post and mine.
That got really creepy really fast!
Joyce, too much.
Go brush Sarah’s hair, Joyce. I’m sure you’ll get a better reception from her.
I mean you’ll be dead, but afterward you guys won’t argue anymore.
That is, until Sarah gets up to heaven and then refuses to enter.
I always thought heaven had a “no killing my flock” policy. But I honestly don’t know WHAT can be prayed away. According to Moses Murder is no worse than Lying.
“But I honestly don’t know WHAT can be prayed away.”
ANYTHING
Well not prayed away but repented for and prayed for forgiveness.
That makes it seem pretty easy to go to heaven.
As I understand it you honestly have to mean it, though, and actually try to change.
Apparently “repent” has connotations of stopping traveling down the path one is on, and actively changing to a new path.
–Which means probably that bad Christians who do terrible things and then “repent” on their deathbeds because they don’t want to go to Hell won’t actually fool God, which at least is a comforting thought with some of these assholes.
There’s another religion (I can’t remember for sure but it maaaay be some form of Islam?) where after you’re dead you just have to walk across a bridge to get into Heaven. The trick is, the worse a person/religious adherent one is, the narrower the bridge is, and if you fall off, then Bad Things happen.
How to get into various afterlives is an interesting discussion…
Remember kids, don’t trust tight rope walkers in that version of heaven
I’d heard that everyone, except perfect people,(meaning literally noone) goes to purgatory. But Purgatory is the most painful feeling in all existance and you are purged for every individual sin you’ve commited. Like getting burned to death repeatedly until you’re purged.
That’s really only a Catholic belief though. Protestants reject the doctrine (they don’t accept 2 Maccabees as scripture), and it’s not really present in Orthodox Christianity either.
Maccabees sounds delicious! Or like a Final Fantasy enemy.
There’s an interesting form of ancestor worship in a part of Africa where if you don’t recieve forgiveness from those that you sinned against before you die, your ancestors beat the shit out of you after you die until you have paid for your sins.
Why does this seem REALLY creepy?
And not in a funny way?
Probably because it is.
Because you don’t offer to brush the hair of a girl you’ve known for 3 weeks. I don’t like people I’ve known for YEARS to touch my hair.
I know what you can do for her, first strip down .
Then put your clothes right back on, screw with her head completely. It’ll keep her awake for the rest of the day and fix her sleep schedule.
Is that David Tennant on the back of the door?
I hope so! 😀
I was thinking Castiel, personally.
It’s Andrew Garfield, I think.
Knowing Joyce, it’s Robert Pattinson.
This is Sal/Bille’s side of the door, so the posters are theirs.
it’s been covered before
Ah yes, Joyce “Friend of Dorothy” Brown
Well, she does want everyone to know she’s a friend of Dorothy… guess she wants to make sure Sal got the message.
**grin**
Okay, so maybe Joyce is a little bit gay.
Not necessarily gay; just never outgrew doing the hair on her “My Size Barbie”.
A little, he says.
A smidge.
Just a pinch.
Pinches are involved, yes.
A touch. (A “touch” . . . )
YOU’VE GOT THE TOUCH!
i love all of y’all so much right now
Joyce can win.
If she dares.
Deeply, and thoroughly ( female ) Homosocial
Ironically it’s what fuels her attraction to having a relationship with Ethan
( Obviously, she is also physically attracted to him )
Willis confirmed this at some point, he alt-texted something like ‘Joyce thinks everyone is awesome —unless you are a Heterosexual male ‘
She briefly freaked with Billie when Billie Pointed out the close connection between these homo-social tendencies of Joyce, and Bi-curiousity.
My opinion is that Both gender typically at, or after puberty go through a stage of Idealized Homo-sociality.
( But Post-puberty I was suppressed closeted bisexual, so I my opinion may be biased )
For some of us, there is no boundary between homosociality and increased intimacy, its just a continuing spectrum
For some us thats true of all friendships intimacies with humans,
and the preset relationship boundaries society offers us, do not fit.
( if that describes you email/google me, maybe )
To her possible detriment I would probably let joyce enact boundary crossing behaviors that others would find creepy, because I would look into those blue eyes and find her sincerity intoxicating,
But when I got the courage to do it return I would freak her out
( because she is repressed )
“Grandma Sal why are you so tired?”
“Who are you calling grandma you whippersnapper!”
Perfect grav award!
I was planning on a different grav but with the way Joyce is acting, this one just seems so right.
Don’t fight the flow. : )
Creepster Joyce is srsly creepy.
Ah, there’s the stalkeriffic Roomies! Joyce we all know and… know.
And love. You can be annoyed by people you love.
Is it just me or is Joyce going to be our eyes and ears for a little bit?
Aww come on, let Joyce brush that hair!!!
I grew up with very, very long brown hair and other girls always wanted to brush it and play with it. My mom contained it in long tight braids. I always made girls mad because I wouldn’t let them brush my hair, but they didn’t believe how bad it tangled when you mess with it.
Then today a boy got mad because a kid wouldn’t let him touch his buzzed hair cut. We had a long discussion about respecting personal space and keeping your hands to yourself.
In school other girls always wanted to braid my hair. I’ve no idea why, because it’s curly. My hair is fairly unmanageable, so I guess maybe they just felt a need to tame it?
My friends used to comment all the time how my hair would go from braided to loose to braided to loose randomly throughout the day.
I’d also have girls sitting behind me in class that would “sproing” my curls all class long. Like it was a compulsion.
No Joyce, if you brush Sal’s hair, this could happen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBsO6aTNyrk
hehehe 🙂
You win in so many ways with that. I can’t even messure how much win you have.
I love it when a comment comes together. ^_^
The A-Team of comments! You are them all, congrats!
I’m far more Mad Murdock than BA in this analogy.
Plas, this is an entire comments section of Howling Mad Murdocks, here.
Joyce, there’s a giant Sal shrine hidden in your closet, isn’t there?
I wonder if she also collect toenail clippings and loose strands of hair.
And she secretly made a barter with Sal and Walkie’s parents for her baby teeth, out of our watchful eyes of course.
If only there was a super heroine willing to help Sal in her time of need, but alias…
If only she was more like a comic book hero, you know, the kind of heroine that is always convieniently able to show up just as the stuff is about to/ already happening.
Crimety!
“IT’S NOT A SHRINE! That would be sacrilegious. I call it my Happy Dream Play-set.”
I’m with Joyce. Totally want to brush her hair.
Joyce, I can’t believe I’m saying this, No means No.
Too soon!
(in comic time, not real time)
What about the Yes Means Yes law, does that also apply to IU?
Completely different sate.
I guess they want to test it out over there first.
What ever helps you sleep at night.
???Why would a law pertaining to college aged kids in America worry a middle aged Aussie like myself???
Like in Australia laws vary from State to State.
That proves just how over governed Australia really is.
I used to have really long hair as a kid, despite being a guy. Have to say, when you’re a five year old boy with long hair, girls like to play with your hair and you don’t like that, but when you reach that age, you secretly wish that it was still like that. Girls have it easy, they always have someone to like their hair, but for guys…some times stuff don’t work out for you. Accept the brushing Sal.
Aside from the fact Joyce is a bit too… Joyce, I suspect Sal is also worried she won’t know what’s she’s doing. Even relaxed, curly/thick hair can be tough to brush out and I can already imagine the nightmare if Joyce used a hairbrush similar to one she would use for herself on Sal’s hair rather than a pick or a wide toothed comb. Coconut oil is completely lost on Joyce as well.
Huh. Sal trying to stay up all night in hopes that Billie will come by. Sounds… familiar somehow, although a tad backwards.
…Eh, must be my imagination.
You’re so right! I’d forgotten about the first week of classes already. : )
One strip.
Billie is walking when she and Sal eye each other in the hall.
Sal holds up the roomate agreement in her hand, a grim expression on her face.
No words spoken.
Since Joyce is meant to be based on Willis’ past, this has some disturbing implications about what Willis was like back then. :O
There’s always someone who you like enough to obsses about in your past, think about it. If Joyce represents his past, Sal might have represented that person in this one instance.
Yeah, there’s a particular age where our creepy side just comes out, and we don’t know how to contain or control it yet. I recall my own creepster crush quite well, and with quite a bit of embarrassment. I hope she forgives me.
Joyce, you are teetering dangerously close to restraining order territory.
Does anyone else hear Applejack’s voice when reading Sal?
I hear Cyborg when reading Jacob. Anybody else read characters in a particular “Voice”.
You have no idea. I read them all as anime characters, and let me tell you, Sal is easily twice as awesome when you read her as sun from My bride is a mermaid, cause the southern accent, mixed with the contrast of the sweet voice with the badass personality! Danny is danny phamtom…not anime, but same first name, that’s why.
I can see THIS Joyce with the dub voice of Misa from Death Note.
Right!? Any crazier and it would be reina from higurashi!
Ah! Damn! Thank you!
It’s been driving me nuts because I KNEW I knew it, I just couldn’t place it.
Applejack! Yes! Hee!
I always read sal as having the voice of Rouge from 90’s X-men cartoon
You mean Rogue. Rouge is from Sonic the Hedgehog.
ooh, I like cyborg-jacob
I’m also a fan of twilight sparkle-dorothy
dipper-danny is good too
OH, AND BROOK FROM OITNB IS BILLIE
I always read Joyce as Pinkie-Pie and Dina as Fluttershy.
For a while now I’ve read Walky as the Fiery Joker.
Danny switches between Yuri Lowenthal and the Autarch of Flame.
Joyce is Misty from Pokemon ‘Bridged.
Craaaaaaaaaazy Misty!
What’s wrong with Joyce? I think she needs someone to talk to.
ALT TEXT
That video destroys me with the giggles, by the way.
Once Joyce started drawing dicks everywhere, it began a slippery slope into madness.
It’s all downhill from here.
Wait, she’s based on Willis when he was younger, was this when he began his road to Slipshine?
Pretty much. 😀
Plot twist.
Willis has shelves full of old porn.
He leaves a small clue on each one and scatters them across the continent for the readers to find.
Together, the Archive of Erotica will be the key to Willis’s finest work.
It takes one to no one
Oh hey, the punchline changed.
What was it before?
“Ahm hiding your brushes” or something on those lines. It was more specific to Joyce’s brushes.
New plan. Bind and gag Joyce and leave her in a closet. then sleep. If she’s free to roam she can get more brushes etc.
*Psst* Joyce, try offering foot massages, or a full body massage with baby oil!
It looks like Joyce is already in a closet.
(But looks, like locks, can be deceiving.)
Those are the crazy eyes and smile of a super villain.
Hmm, Joyce is so fixated on Sal’s hair that she is yet to start flipping out because Billie spent last night at Walky’s. Sure she probably knows Walky treats her as a sister, but to her a boy and a girl not married sleeping in the same bed is wrong.
Allthough, did Walky mention the previous night’s incident?
Great. Now Joyce is totally going to want insomnia, too.
“Well, I’m a totally cool rebel girl, now, so I don’t need to sleep. I’m just gonna lean against the wall here, chew on my pencil, and ignore you.”
“I’d have long, black hair, too, but I’m still collecting Sal hairs for my wig.”
Joyce, you need to calm down a li’l bit. You’ve got those crazy eyes
O.K so Joyce is a stalker. One day we’re going to find Sal tied to a chair in a room lit by candles. Also insomnia isn’t the occasional innability to sleep. It’s a chronic inability.
Her head will be shaved bald, too. And Joyce will have a nice new wig…
That’s good to know, although I don’t think Sal cares.
pretty sure the real reason Sal didnt sleep is “worried about Billie” and she just made up the insomnia thing as an excuse to joyce. or, who knows, maybe she really does have insomnia. It did seem like she has a lot of late nights, especially back in the beginning when it was Billie who was waiting up for her to come back.
Joyce, sweety…boundaries.
Noh
C’mon Willis… Stop teasing.
#damnuwillis
#It’sathingnow
Who are the posters of? One looks a little like David Tennant. Can’t figure the other one out.
re-post
Joyce is bloody adorkable.
and Sal is awesome, and i can so identify with the sleep issues
Joyce was being friendly, if a touch helicopter-y, right up until she obliquely hinted at wanting to mess w/ Sal regardless of Sal’s consent.
Willis, keep on keepin’ on. This is a great webcomic you’ve got here, and looking forward to the newest strip is easily one of both the most consistent, and biggest, highlights of my day.
Am I the only one here that wants to see Joyce’s reaction when she gets the opportunity to brush Sal’s hair?
I gotta be honest, hair-brushing by someone else is AWESOME [except when my hair is tangled]… so I’d actually let Joyce do that.
But pop in whenever she wants to do that, whether or not I’m conscious? Eh…….
OH OH maybe the chapter title really means When Someone FINALLY Loved Me?
“Who needs brushes? I’ll just lovingly caress each and every strand of your silky tresses with my fingers, while I occasionally sniff your hair.”
If we ever wondered what “Joyce’s rape face” would look like…
It seems Joyce has discovered the one true religion: Salentology
Joyce in the morning and Malaya in the night.
No wonder you have insomia, Sal.
So I guess Joyce’s stalkerish tendencies weren’t a side effect of mindwipe-induced brain scrambling after all.
That lecherous smile… ‘_’
If Dorothy’s hair was like Sal’s, Joyce would attach herself to Dorothy’s crotch in no time.
Joyce, you wanna be like Sal? ignore what she’stelling you and brush that hair.
“Crash”? More like “Crush”.
If Joyce messes with Sal’s hair without knowing what she’s doing, could Sal’s hair go FWOOMP? Sal would be so pissed if it did.
I get the feeing Joyce would go gay for Sal, like in no time at all.
Please, please, pretty please make Joyce + Sal happen!!!
Cannot tell if creepy level of admiration or more.
May want to add lock door to that list as well
Its too bad there will never be a Junior Year of Dumbing…
This one page shows the potential of a lot of relationship mishaps with Joyce that I identify with.
One thing we have not seen with Joyce is her falling “deeply in Like” with a member of the same sex, making a small fool of herself ( due to her extreme capacity for homosocial empathy ) and being rejected.
Connecting deeply with someone who rejects us , is a common social occurrence,
So far Joyce has beenonly coddled in her child-like affections.
College is exactly where these get played out and hurt
Chocolate river. That is all.