I never understood the point of Uggs…or why people wear [non-work] boots when it’s not winter (sexy leather platform boots and goth boots notwithstanding).
I wear coats when it’s not cold.
Heavy winter coats.
Just because I want to.
People wonder how I don’t get super hot and sweat like crazy.
I have do idea how I do it.
How are they trashy or anything like spray tans? I guess it makes sense if you’re a total douche. And they resemble tribal boots like the iniuts wear, so by bashing them you’re kind of being prejudice toward indigenous people…or at least their style of dress.
How are they trashy or anything like spray tans? I guess it makes sense if you’re a total douche. And they resemble tribal boots like the Inuits wear, so by bashing them you’re kind of being prejudice toward indigenous people…or at least their style of dress.
(Putting aside the factual debate below-)-this depends on your specific definition of better, and for that matter on your specific definitions of heaven/hell/the rest of the cosmology.
For example I consider myself too moral to serve the Christian god as I understand it, leaving me with little choice but to take the low road.
Heh. The variety of variations on the cosmological, theological and moral constructs within Christianity are legion. For all but the most basic you can typically find a denomination that holds an opposite view
I meant when a person thinks they’re a christian and other christians think they’re not one. In theory the disagreement might be mutual. I can see the potential for epistemological confusion, but I see no way for us to objectively define which person’s opinion should or shouldn’t be counted.
You know a group isn’t unified by agreement when they can’t even agree on who’s in the group.
For example, there are some protestant sects that do not consider Catholicism to be truly “Christian,” as well as the inverse. Many people do not consider Mormons to be “Christian,” even though Jesus is right there in the name (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), because they use an extra book or two. And on and on…
Well, she started out with a leg up due to the whole “studying is better than illegal drugs and/or reckless partying” thing, but granted that since then most of her authority has been derived from force of will and a baseball bat.
“studying is better than illegal drugs or partying” is a matter of opinion. For example, in Islam various schools of sufi mysticism have at times held drugs and partying to be a way to get closer to god. (Willis plz give Sarah a sufi roommate if you ever get to “next year”)
No, the dispute was “studying vs illegal drugs or partying”, if you want to get pedantic. And by “illegal” we mean “could get Sarah thrown out of college and/or into jail for merely allowing her roommate to keep them in the room.”
If that’s the sort of drugs the Sufis party with, I have no objection to saying that Sarah would have the moral high ground opposing practices that can ruin the lives of those around you.
you been to college begbert? Every other person is on drugs and most people party. You don’t get thrown out for having a druggy room mate.
If the situation is bothering you enough that it’s hurting your studies or making you loose too much sleep, there are better ways to deal with your room mate then to get them kicked out. I don’t know the details of Sarah’s room mate problems so I can’t be sure but from what we know, Sarah was a bit of a dick handling that problem.
Also I kinda figured we were talking in the general case: studying IN GENERAL vs drugs and partying IN GENERAL. Since Sarah’s stance on this issue does in fact extend passed where she’s personally involved (see: her opinion on billie) this was fair I think? I mean wouldn’t everyone say studying is morally superior to getting your roommate kicked out of college?
Why do the people condemning Sarah and defending the druggie assume Sarah did not try to talk to her first? The Sarah haters seem to be so fond of “getting the whole story,” they forget about that part, don’t they?
You can debate the “morality” of drug abuse til you’re blue in the face, but the indispuable fact is that the roommate knowingly and willingly broke the law as well as campus policy.
While Sarah may not have been kicked out merely because her roommate was doing drugs, the roommate was disruptive enough that Sarah was in fear of losing her scholarship. Said scholarship was the only thing keeping her in school.
I would submit that, depending on how out of control the roommate was and what drugs she was on, Sarah’s moral obligation to her roommate (doubly so if they were friends) was to get her help to get her clean. Like somebody mentioned a couple strips ago, it would be very interesting if the ex-roommate was actually grateful to Sarah for turning her life around.
Long and short , Sarah fulfilled her legal obligations, as anybody should, but especially somebody wanting to go to law school. These are all supposedly adults, and part of being an adult is accepting responsibility for one’s own actions and their consequenses. Only gangsters and junior high studends blame the person who reports a crime.
The true collegiate answer is to study illegal drugs
and partying.
Getting thrown out can greatly facilitate your college
experience by reducing your class load.
Sufis are a mixed bunch, from frumpy uptight fundies
to expand your mind for god. Also centuries of
persecution means what they say in private is different
from what they say in public.
I just reviewed the conversation in question, and reading it again all at once (as opposed to over several days), it’s got pretty odd flow. Sarah first imposed herself as a replacement for Billie (on the notion that Billie was going to damage Joyce), but seemed to completely abandon the idea in frustration when Joyce stated that she thought Sarah hated her. (Hated Joyce, that is.) Then Joyce turned the situation around and stated that she wished that Sarah would do small nice
things with her, and lo and behold Sarah decides to join the two of them, rather than usurping Billie. So in a way we’re both right – though in the end it was Joyce’s prodding that sealed the deal.
This sort of messy-looking writing would seem problematic, except that’s how people actually act.
I really like the subtly changing shadows in the first two panels, it makes it clear that time is passing, and you’re not just recycing panels, but at the same time, it’s subtle enough that they manage to look the same to the casual observer.
Oh buck up Sarah. The fact that you feel bad about it means that deep down, you really are a good person. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone punches a bongo sometimes.
You’re like a cat who expresses affection with her claws instead of her purrs. It’s ok. With enough belly rubs and a trip to the vet, you’ll learn to purr again. Of course, afterward you’ll be an indoor cat, but Joyce will make sure you get lots of exercise.
It’s hard to tell whether she’s making a tongue-in-cheek observation or genuinely being down on herself. Her body language could go either way, and the wide shot doesn’t give us a close view of her facial expression. I certainly hope TheLastOutlaw is right, though.
I think it’s because of her innocence.
Either someone wants to defend it or take it away from her.
Even though Raidah wasn’t doing anything wrong, Sarah still wanted to
defend her because of how Raidah treats her.
There is hope for all of them, they are sitting together. Joyce stayed with Sarah because I think she knows Sarah was trying to protect her, just not why.
Dina stayed because Sarah dragged her, after that no one knows why she’s still there, but Dina.
Billie stayed ? no idea, she could have given Joyce the money to pay for her clothes and stayed with the sharks she’s dying to get in with. So why in heck is she still there?
I love Joyce, she’s right, she really can’t. Even when it’s not her fault.
Dina knows what she is doing there – she’s partaking of a social event that includes people. She probably isn’t sure what that means she should be doing, so she’s taking her cues – or trying to – from the others around her. Which at this point means sitting around doing nothing.
She’s probably given up on the Discovery Store at this point, though it’s possible she hasn’t and will bring it up in an upcoming comic. But I doubt it.
Isn’t this that magical point where Dina disappears again and teleports back to the dorms? Or is Sarah in some kind of overprotective even though she regrets it so would definitely notice mode?
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Joyce has a point, her luck outside is shit.
At least she scored some Ugg boots if nothing else.
But then there’s the problem that the Ugg boots are trashy shit.
Ugg boots are like fashionable sweatclothes, comfortable.
Yeah, “fashionable”. Like spraytans.
I never understood the point of Uggs…or why people wear [non-work] boots when it’s not winter (sexy leather platform boots and goth boots notwithstanding).
But they are soooo comfy… I put them in the same ranking as pajama Jeans.
Same category as crocs, for me. far far below pajama jeans.
Can toss those stupid million layer short skirts in there too, yick.
I wear coats when it’s not cold.
Heavy winter coats.
Just because I want to.
People wonder how I don’t get super hot and sweat like crazy.
I have do idea how I do it.
How are they trashy or anything like spray tans? I guess it makes sense if you’re a total douche. And they resemble tribal boots like the iniuts wear, so by bashing them you’re kind of being prejudice toward indigenous people…or at least their style of dress.
How are they trashy or anything like spray tans? I guess it makes sense if you’re a total douche. And they resemble tribal boots like the Inuits wear, so by bashing them you’re kind of being prejudice toward indigenous people…or at least their style of dress.
Whoops double posted while trying to correct.
The story of my life. If anything bad could happen to me, it can and it will. Judging by my luck, I’ll be dead when I’m 30, alone and unloved.
That’s everyone’s life story. It’s called Murphy’s Law
its called ‘the universe is a fuckin dick’
Save up 1 dollar a day until you have enough cash to by you a hooker. Problem solved.
So if your Mike that means a nickel every hour for someones mum?
That’s a lot of moms.
23 technically, since when measuring in mums you have to round own.
Oh wait my math fails me 19 mums, with a left over of 1.
*down
Sarah’s feeling very guilty right about now.
I really do like Sarah, but her position of moral authority is pretty shot right now.
Former God, now fallen angel.
Eh, better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.
no it’s not.
Well to some people, it is better.
Whoosh! That was the sound of a literary reference going right over your head.
What, just because someone first wrote it 350 years ago, you can’t comment on it?
If you think that the statement was intended to be agreed with tehn, yeah you probably shouldn’t be commenting on it.
(Putting aside the factual debate below-)-this depends on your specific definition of better, and for that matter on your specific definitions of heaven/hell/the rest of the cosmology.
For example I consider myself too moral to serve the Christian god as I understand it, leaving me with little choice but to take the low road.
As someone who was raised on the SDA religion, the idea that Satan and his devils get to rule Hell instead of suffering alongside the lost amuses me.
It’s as if they don’t even know that Jesus rules hell now, haha plebs.
Heh. The variety of variations on the cosmological, theological and moral constructs within Christianity are legion. For all but the most basic you can typically find a denomination that holds an opposite view
Actually I’m pretty sure that you can find variation on even the most basic stuff too, up to and including whether a given person even is a Christian.
If they aren’t a Christian, then that’s not really “within Christianity” now is it.
I meant when a person thinks they’re a christian and other christians think they’re not one. In theory the disagreement might be mutual. I can see the potential for epistemological confusion, but I see no way for us to objectively define which person’s opinion should or shouldn’t be counted.
You know a group isn’t unified by agreement when they can’t even agree on who’s in the group.
For example, there are some protestant sects that do not consider Catholicism to be truly “Christian,” as well as the inverse. Many people do not consider Mormons to be “Christian,” even though Jesus is right there in the name (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), because they use an extra book or two. And on and on…
You mean
DumaChristopher RuddElaine.#obscurecomicgeek
Of course, all the other fallen angels swapped serving in Heaven for serving in Hell. Whoops!
What moral authority?
Well, she started out with a leg up due to the whole “studying is better than illegal drugs and/or reckless partying” thing, but granted that since then most of her authority has been derived from force of will and a baseball bat.
“studying is better than illegal drugs or partying” is a matter of opinion. For example, in Islam various schools of sufi mysticism have at times held drugs and partying to be a way to get closer to god. (Willis plz give Sarah a sufi roommate if you ever get to “next year”)
Do Sufis say it’s okay to bug and disrupt your college roommate with your theological partying?
That’s not the moral dispute in question, its “studying vs drugs and partying” not “studying vs drugs and partying and being a jerk.”
No, the dispute was “studying vs illegal drugs or partying”, if you want to get pedantic. And by “illegal” we mean “could get Sarah thrown out of college and/or into jail for merely allowing her roommate to keep them in the room.”
If that’s the sort of drugs the Sufis party with, I have no objection to saying that Sarah would have the moral high ground opposing practices that can ruin the lives of those around you.
you been to college begbert? Every other person is on drugs and most people party. You don’t get thrown out for having a druggy room mate.
If the situation is bothering you enough that it’s hurting your studies or making you loose too much sleep, there are better ways to deal with your room mate then to get them kicked out. I don’t know the details of Sarah’s room mate problems so I can’t be sure but from what we know, Sarah was a bit of a dick handling that problem.
Legality on its own is not a moral issue, so I left it out.
Also I kinda figured we were talking in the general case: studying IN GENERAL vs drugs and partying IN GENERAL. Since Sarah’s stance on this issue does in fact extend passed where she’s personally involved (see: her opinion on billie) this was fair I think? I mean wouldn’t everyone say studying is morally superior to getting your roommate kicked out of college?
Why do the people condemning Sarah and defending the druggie assume Sarah did not try to talk to her first? The Sarah haters seem to be so fond of “getting the whole story,” they forget about that part, don’t they?
You can debate the “morality” of drug abuse til you’re blue in the face, but the indispuable fact is that the roommate knowingly and willingly broke the law as well as campus policy.
While Sarah may not have been kicked out merely because her roommate was doing drugs, the roommate was disruptive enough that Sarah was in fear of losing her scholarship. Said scholarship was the only thing keeping her in school.
I would submit that, depending on how out of control the roommate was and what drugs she was on, Sarah’s moral obligation to her roommate (doubly so if they were friends) was to get her help to get her clean. Like somebody mentioned a couple strips ago, it would be very interesting if the ex-roommate was actually grateful to Sarah for turning her life around.
Long and short , Sarah fulfilled her legal obligations, as anybody should, but especially somebody wanting to go to law school. These are all supposedly adults, and part of being an adult is accepting responsibility for one’s own actions and their consequenses. Only gangsters and junior high studends blame the person who reports a crime.
The true collegiate answer is to study illegal drugs
and partying.
Getting thrown out can greatly facilitate your college
experience by reducing your class load.
Sufis are a mixed bunch, from frumpy uptight fundies
to expand your mind for god. Also centuries of
persecution means what they say in private is different
from what they say in public.
Good going, SARAH.
To be entirely fair, she didn’t even want to come in the first place. Joyce wheedled her into it.
So yes, it really is all Joyce’s fault.
To be entirely fair, Joyce never asked her to come and Sarah insisted.
So no, it’s not Joyce’s fault.
I just reviewed the conversation in question, and reading it again all at once (as opposed to over several days), it’s got pretty odd flow. Sarah first imposed herself as a replacement for Billie (on the notion that Billie was going to damage Joyce), but seemed to completely abandon the idea in frustration when Joyce stated that she thought Sarah hated her. (Hated Joyce, that is.) Then Joyce turned the situation around and stated that she wished that Sarah would do small nice
things with her, and lo and behold Sarah decides to join the two of them, rather than usurping Billie. So in a way we’re both right – though in the end it was Joyce’s prodding that sealed the deal.
This sort of messy-looking writing would seem problematic, except that’s how people actually act.
I thought she was gonna say “I can’t take you guys anywhere” but this works too.
cue quirky seinfeld music*
Which character is Sarah then? Neuman?
All of them.
That’s the cover album image for their new band, the … Bad Jurassic Super Dinosaurs.
Includes the hit single “my fist makes you bleed.”
(insert canned laughter here)
(insert canned booing here)
(insert that canned whooing noise when two characters kiss unexpectedly)
(Insert canned applause)
(Insert canned peaches.)
(Insert canned orders over loudspeaker)
(Insert the city of Cannes)
(please insert girders)
(insert anal-beads anywhere)
*except the mouth
unless they were washed with soap and boiling water first.
Doesn’t that take the fun out of ANAL BEADS??!!!
The shitty taste is fun?!
Bekah, your grav is too perfect for your comment.
I really like the subtly changing shadows in the first two panels, it makes it clear that time is passing, and you’re not just recycing panels, but at the same time, it’s subtle enough that they manage to look the same to the casual observer.
At least Joyce didn’t blow it for Billie not making friends with the Sophomores.
AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh buck up Sarah. The fact that you feel bad about it means that deep down, you really are a good person. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone punches a bongo sometimes.
You’re like a cat who expresses affection with her claws instead of her purrs. It’s ok. With enough belly rubs and a trip to the vet, you’ll learn to purr again. Of course, afterward you’ll be an indoor cat, but Joyce will make sure you get lots of exercise.
I wonder if spaying Sarah will help.
At the very least, it’ll stop the yowling when she’s in heat.
She might even be less grumpy.
probably gain weight though
Except Joyce said it.
I’m referring to the look on Sarah’s face, not the words coming out of Joyce’s mouth.
Can’t nobody understand the words coming out of her mouth!
They’re gonna have to cut Sarah’s fists off so she doesn’t use them again.
No, just her fingers. Can’t make a fist without fingers.
Perhaps not, but that doesn’t mean she can’t shove her finger-less stump into other people’s faces.
Fingerless PUNCH!
That would freak people out way more.
Palm strike?
http://www.ehow.com/how_12871_perform-palm-strike.html
Thanks, Shade!
Imma learn Tae Kwon Doe now.
That will never work, they broke the hands of many slaves years ago and tas he result, they invented Capoeira, the dancing, kicking based martial art.
Damn you for telling me this while I’m playing as Christie Monteiro from Tekken
Lol Capoeira. That made my night.
I prefer to believe that capoeira was invented by an Airbender and a Waterbender in love.
“Dance with me.”
Somehow doubt that Sarah would be agreeable to declawing.
Joyce is the only one here who acted socially flawlessly, but she thinks it’s *herself* she can’t take anywhere.. Internalized guilt is sad.
I don’t think it’s so much that she feels she did wrong, I think she’s noticing that she tends to attract strife and wackiness.
It’s hard to tell whether she’s making a tongue-in-cheek observation or genuinely being down on herself. Her body language could go either way, and the wide shot doesn’t give us a close view of her facial expression. I certainly hope TheLastOutlaw is right, though.
I think it’s because of her innocence.
Either someone wants to defend it or take it away from her.
Even though Raidah wasn’t doing anything wrong, Sarah still wanted to
defend her because of how Raidah treats her.
Internalized guilt? In a religious person? Noooo.
(saying that as a not very religious Jew)
Codependance is contagious.
Well… actually, yeah, Joyce has been the thread tying together most of the bad events.
What the heck, Joyce.
So… you copy-pasted everything from the first panel to the second (and the background again to the third)… but you re-did the shadows/highlights?
Its so he could recolor the boobies 😉
There is hope for all of them, they are sitting together. Joyce stayed with Sarah because I think she knows Sarah was trying to protect her, just not why.
Dina stayed because Sarah dragged her, after that no one knows why she’s still there, but Dina.
Billie stayed ? no idea, she could have given Joyce the money to pay for her clothes and stayed with the sharks she’s dying to get in with. So why in heck is she still there?
I love Joyce, she’s right, she really can’t. Even when it’s not her fault.
I think they’re all together because they’re waiting for the same bus.
Hopefully not with Aslan.
Cue Price is right fail horn…
http://www.losinghorns.com/
Expressions from left to right:
Boredom
Awkward sadness
Regret
Man, that lizard moves fast.
I think Billie’s is more “annoyance at the lost chance to get an in with the sophomores*
But it does move fast.
Everything you touch turns into disaster, Joyce. You are the destroyer.
She’s like a reverse Mcgyver, she can turn anything into crap
She’s like a reverse Mcgyver, she can turn anything into crap o3o
They are making me the sad! D:
Thanks for the comics! It’s been a great way to start my day at the office…
Here’s a picture 🙂
http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q509/rennik_/dress1.png
Still waiting on Billie to start stabbing all the things.
Dina’s just like, randomly there all the time. Dunno what she’s even doing there!
Oh, Joyce. You can take yourself wherever you want! Other people just mess it up.
Private college life with other Jesus lovers is probably looking pretty cushy to her right now.
She wanted to experience the “real world.”
Well, here it is. Ta-dah!
Dina does not know what she is doing there. Maybe doesn’t even know where there is. Could be just wondering where the Discovery Store is.
Dina knows what she is doing there – she’s partaking of a social event that includes people. She probably isn’t sure what that means she should be doing, so she’s taking her cues – or trying to – from the others around her. Which at this point means sitting around doing nothing.
She’s probably given up on the Discovery Store at this point, though it’s possible she hasn’t and will bring it up in an upcoming comic. But I doubt it.
Isn’t this that magical point where Dina disappears again and teleports back to the dorms? Or is Sarah in some kind of overprotective even though she regrets it so would definitely notice mode?
The girls gang is forming up. I like it <3, poor Joyce.
Couldn’t roll my eyes any harder at Billie.
Ya NO SHIT joyce
Oh no. Joyce is being literal and nobody’s paying attention. Poor bby :C