Off-site storage and other services available through the internet. Usually it’s broken down into stuff like “software as a service” or “infrastructure as a service”, etc.
I think both android and iOS have a standard setting where the stuff in your images app is automatically stored in the(ir respective) cloud (storage).
People above 40 tend to switch it off (they also tend to backup to local devices).
The sliding timescale is rapidly getting to the point where these characters grew up with phones, where increased ease-of-use combined with deliberate obfuscation of the underlying systems mean that it’s easy for a layperson to be completely ignorant of how their machines function while still using them daily.
“a Gen-Z college student like Dotty is someone I expect to have a little more knowledge on how the internet works?”
In my experience modern students *don’t* have much knowledge about how the internet works. I start telling them the URL to my course website and more often than not they type it into a search bar instead of an address bar, and hit enter before I finish.
heh like, I guess maybe thus says something about where I live?
in CA, latest IT is really central to how a lot of stuff is done around here in education, business and government, what with Silicon Valley and surrounding culture
thus I take it that people over here on average know a little more about how these systems work than say, a state like Colorado or Kansas?
I grew up & live in CA too, and I think not knowing very basic IT stuff is pretty par for the course everywhere. All those things were being slowly cut out of my school district (a relatively affluent one) by the time I graduated in 2017. They would send kids home with ipads, but those were almost exclusively used for google classroom or something.
We’re starting to see the effects now. Students coming out of high school have *way* less of a grasp on the basics of computer use than I and most of my peers did in college.
Even outside of coding, knowing my computer stuff was essential in productivity in school and special interests and projects and what even before the pandemic, it’s pivotal in how I make money at ALL as somebody disabled six ways to Sunday.
Back in computer lab in middle school we learned how to type via Jumpstart PC game, i stayed after-school to practice so much i was literally first in my class to get to the game’s win condition if only because of how badly I wanted to improve this skill for the sake of my future. Same goes for basically everything else I know about effective computer use, internet literacy, etc.
I don’t think the elementary school I went to has a computer lab any more (my mom was a teacher there for years after I graduated). I learned to type in there. Again, replaced by ipads or maybe chromebooks. Not sure if my middle school ever had one. There were a few in my high school, one of them was reserved for the special institute of whatever for smart kids, one of them was in the library and we were rarely allowed in there, and one of them was used for the IT and programming electives that may or may not be taught any more since the guy teaching them retired. They also got rid of all shop classes and electronics classes. I was in the last electronics class at my school.
And yeah, public education is getting a lot worse. Literacy rates in the US have been dropping for years. It’s really bad.
Computer and cellphone had become so easy to access and use that the regular people that don’t need to know them any deeper that surface level doesn’t actually have any motivation to learn about them. Why would you learn something more complicated when you are doing fine with the easier stuff? Unless you get interested in it yourself, you call for an expert if you have the money or look up videos for one specific problem you have and then stop there.
You assuming that more regular people know about something because it greatly affect their life when they can pay someone to know it for them is quite adorable.
Gen Z is apparently faaar less tech savvy then we think they are. They know how to *use* things, but knowing *how* they work is a blind side to them.
Dotty is basically a normy, she probably knows that everything online stays online, but doesn’t understand how it stays there, or where it goes. Amber is a tech nerd, she knows the secret things.
We need Amazi-girl back, not necessarily because she was a great superhero, but because she seems to have been occupying the time Amber needed to be a monstrous supervillain.
That’s specifically the original deal with Eclipso, where Bruce Gordon tries to stop Eclipso’s plans before they happen, and Eclipso just does evil stuff at night.
Once Eclipso became a Major Event-level villain that all kind of stopped.
Closest thing I can recall off the top of my head is Sentry and The Void, and even that’s only sometimes because writers go back and forth about how much he influences who Void is.
Damn you Amber. Dotty’s weak smile while typing “lol” tho, lol.
I dunno, some people may like polished sexy pics— considering Dorothy is 🥞 🥞 , would Joyce think that Joe had sent in a late nudie and she’ll never notice?
be hilarious if somehow robin came across and would’ve had ‘better’ advice if not “Oh i’ve def done more impressive ones!” and showing off her nude selfie collection
Ditto. My own brain did a double-take at “an lol” because I was like, it’s supposed to be “a lol” of course >_<; I can't be the only one who pronounces it as a single syllable, right?
Honestly? Now that she’s buried both a) the hatchet with Sal, and b) Amber’s dad, I’m 100% on board with the idea of Amazi-girl’s new arch enemy being Amber.
With good reason. Even your link says it is far from foolproof and if we are talking about cloud storage then the data is undoubtedly be copied and backup on another server. Even if Amber could pull it off she wouldn’t do it for some slightly embarrassing photo on cloud storage.
Recovery tech has advanced to the point that when the government/military needs a hard drives data to be 100% unrecoverable they physically destroy it. It’s the only way to be sure. Even an RMP isn’t guaranteed anymore.
Cloud is worse. You don’t even know which hard drives to destroy, and if you did, you’d need a few squads to reach them, which is not exactly inconspicuous.
Some while ago I came by a Mac Quadra that had belonged to the publishing section of a certain Australian security intelligence organisation, sold at an auction for government surplus.
They had removed the CD-ROM drive and destroyed it (along with the hard disk, of course).
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*plays “pa$$ the time” by Bronze on hacked muzak*</a
I miss Inside Job 🙁
unless you hit literally every single computer in existence with a simultaneous EMP maybe
That … might work.
Great, now she’s going to go back to planning to become president so she can gain access to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal and do that.
You know how a lot of superheroes end up creating their own nemesis? Amber just created God Empress Dorothy.
the beginning of her villain arc. ~<3
As Amazi-Girl’s Arch-Nemesis!
Nah, too tropy.
You clearly underestimate the power of Amber.
And phones, and tablets, and smartwatches, and gotta take into account people could have just screenshotted and then printed it out…
EMPs don’t affect non magnetic backup media, such as compact disk or Bluray..
Dorothy, I don’t know what you expected.
so like, what does “the cloud” even mean here.
by itself it literally just means “the internet”
Off-site storage and other services available through the internet. Usually it’s broken down into stuff like “software as a service” or “infrastructure as a service”, etc.
The cloud is just somebody else’s computer. Usually *many* of someone else’s computers.
I was an IT Specialist for 35 years.
so basically the internet used to store your files non-locally
still doesn’t let us know what Dotty means by “THE cloud”
i dont even know if she got iphone or android XD
Dorothy is asking how to delete all copies of the images stored non-locally anywhere besides her phone and/or Joyce’s phone.
Which, as Amber said, is impossible (or at least impossible to guarantee)
… I’m guessing on a texting app? via direct message?
The cloud is a big computer someone glued a bunch of cotton balls onto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ntPxdWAWq8
I think both android and iOS have a standard setting where the stuff in your images app is automatically stored in the(ir respective) cloud (storage).
People above 40 tend to switch it off (they also tend to backup to local devices).
Amber playing the role of Evil Vizier in this scenario.
“My liege, she means you harm!”
*whispering in her ear*
“Thats what a person who means to do you harm would say”
And she rocks it! I hope she considers playing DnD some time in her life.
panel 3 is so many things <3
A killing blow to the rumor that the comic is being renamed Smarting of Age?
Panel 3 & 4 are some of my favourite Dorothy expressions. She’s truly allowing herself to roll with it and make some potential mistakes.
Potential?
“Ahhhhh tits.”
You could have led with that Amber
And ruin the bit?
it’s weird like,
a Gen-Z college student like Dotty is someone I expect to have a little more knowledge on how the internet works?
unless this comic really is gonna go into horny manga territory XD
The sliding timescale is rapidly getting to the point where these characters grew up with phones, where increased ease-of-use combined with deliberate obfuscation of the underlying systems mean that it’s easy for a layperson to be completely ignorant of how their machines function while still using them daily.
Same thing that happened to cars and TVs, innit.
I was a software engineer for mumbledy years and I firmly believe they work by magic.
it’s weird cuz for me like,
I am especially compelled know at least the basics behind how appliances i use every like toasters and freezers work and headphones work?
same goes for how the internet gets a comic strip from the server to my screen, how video games work internally, etc
if only because physics, electronics and tech have been some of my longest held hyperfixations ever XD
If tech/electronics is a passion of yours, you may be falling into the average familiarity trap
Can confirm, I have absolutely no idea how any of the stuff I use on my phone or computer actually works.
“a Gen-Z college student like Dotty is someone I expect to have a little more knowledge on how the internet works?”
In my experience modern students *don’t* have much knowledge about how the internet works. I start telling them the URL to my course website and more often than not they type it into a search bar instead of an address bar, and hit enter before I finish.
heh like, I guess maybe thus says something about where I live?
in CA, latest IT is really central to how a lot of stuff is done around here in education, business and government, what with Silicon Valley and surrounding culture
thus I take it that people over here on average know a little more about how these systems work than say, a state like Colorado or Kansas?
I grew up & live in CA too, and I think not knowing very basic IT stuff is pretty par for the course everywhere. All those things were being slowly cut out of my school district (a relatively affluent one) by the time I graduated in 2017. They would send kids home with ipads, but those were almost exclusively used for google classroom or something.
We’re starting to see the effects now. Students coming out of high school have *way* less of a grasp on the basics of computer use than I and most of my peers did in college.
That’s…. really concerning to me?
Even outside of coding, knowing my computer stuff was essential in productivity in school and special interests and projects and what even before the pandemic, it’s pivotal in how I make money at ALL as somebody disabled six ways to Sunday.
Back in computer lab in middle school we learned how to type via Jumpstart PC game, i stayed after-school to practice so much i was literally first in my class to get to the game’s win condition if only because of how badly I wanted to improve this skill for the sake of my future. Same goes for basically everything else I know about effective computer use, internet literacy, etc.
You tellin me schools cutting it out like THAT?
I don’t think the elementary school I went to has a computer lab any more (my mom was a teacher there for years after I graduated). I learned to type in there. Again, replaced by ipads or maybe chromebooks. Not sure if my middle school ever had one. There were a few in my high school, one of them was reserved for the special institute of whatever for smart kids, one of them was in the library and we were rarely allowed in there, and one of them was used for the IT and programming electives that may or may not be taught any more since the guy teaching them retired. They also got rid of all shop classes and electronics classes. I was in the last electronics class at my school.
And yeah, public education is getting a lot worse. Literacy rates in the US have been dropping for years. It’s really bad.
Computer and cellphone had become so easy to access and use that the regular people that don’t need to know them any deeper that surface level doesn’t actually have any motivation to learn about them. Why would you learn something more complicated when you are doing fine with the easier stuff? Unless you get interested in it yourself, you call for an expert if you have the money or look up videos for one specific problem you have and then stop there.
You assuming that more regular people know about something because it greatly affect their life when they can pay someone to know it for them is quite adorable.
Once again I see capitalism marginalizing the need for an informed public, alongside much else needed for democratic society to function. 😑
Gen Z is apparently faaar less tech savvy then we think they are. They know how to *use* things, but knowing *how* they work is a blind side to them.
Dotty is basically a normy, she probably knows that everything online stays online, but doesn’t understand how it stays there, or where it goes. Amber is a tech nerd, she knows the secret things.
Amber’s internal voice: “Mission Accomplished”
Amber’s other internal voice: “NOOO WHAT ARE YOU DOING???”
Amber’s OTHER other internal voice: Your mom.
For a nickle.
Amazi Girl is groaning in exasperation
I mean she did warn you. With context and everything.
It took me way too long to realize Dorothy’s shirt in this sequence.
Yeah, she looks like the cover for a blank VHS tape.
The national flag of Bulgaria?
Nah, they tended to favor Betamax.
Beta was bettah.
I didn’t notice until you pointed it out
And Dorothy can’t say amber didn’t warn her, becuase amber did warn her.
GOD. AMBER IS ONE OF THE BEST CHARACTERS EVER CREATED
She is amazing at everything she attempts. How can you not admire that? I mean, she’s a mess, but wow!!!
she’s so sucks and it’s so wonderful. you just Know she is walking away from dorothy to start writing a fanfic about this exact scenario
We need Amazi-girl back, not necessarily because she was a great superhero, but because she seems to have been occupying the time Amber needed to be a monstrous supervillain.
Supervillain by day, superhero by night. It must have been done in a comic, but I can’t recall an instance.
That’s specifically the original deal with Eclipso, where Bruce Gordon tries to stop Eclipso’s plans before they happen, and Eclipso just does evil stuff at night.
Once Eclipso became a Major Event-level villain that all kind of stopped.
Bruce Gordon? Any relationship to Commissioner Gordon?
Oh yeah, that’s also kind of Hulk’s deal for his first few issues, but then he stops being a villain so much.
Some of that came back with the Mr. Fixit portion of the Peter David run, but he was less “supervillain” and more “bouncer at a casino”
Closest thing I can recall off the top of my head is Sentry and The Void, and even that’s only sometimes because writers go back and forth about how much he influences who Void is.
Amber’s supervillain superpower is creating fanfic situations.. and creating them by any means necessary.
She DID explicitly state that she’s a goblin who loves mess.
Oh Dorothy
Of course what we all want to know is will Becky be with Joyce when she receives the pix.
Damn you Amber. Dotty’s weak smile while typing “lol” tho, lol.
I dunno, some people may like polished sexy pics— considering Dorothy is 🥞 🥞 , would Joyce think that Joe had sent in a late nudie and she’ll never notice?
damn you willis
“Wow, Joe. Your boobies sure are freckly and pale.”
The better to [inaudible and garbled] my dear.
And this is why you shouldn’t trust a trash goblin’s advice.
be hilarious if somehow robin came across and would’ve had ‘better’ advice if not “Oh i’ve def done more impressive ones!” and showing off her nude selfie collection
My brain has decided Dorothy pronounces “El Oh El” and Amber says “lol”
Ditto. My own brain did a double-take at “an lol” because I was like, it’s supposed to be “a lol” of course >_<; I can't be the only one who pronounces it as a single syllable, right?
I pronounce it as a word, too. My sister says it’s a cringey sign of being chronically online…. lol
My immediate thought was: Dorothy pronouces “lol” as “el oh el”? What is she, 57?
I now ship Little Miss “I Can Fix Her (And Everyone but Myself)” with Little Miss “I Can Make Her Worse (And Everyone but Mostly Myself)”
You’ve convinced me too! A very interesting dynamic.
Amber’s gonna spend the rest of her day sending dick pics to people.
She sends pics of Mike. Mike’s spirit nods in approval
And so does your mother.
I’m so here for when Amber convinces Dorothy that nothing less than a glammed-up headshot of her anus will do for a followup
That’s gonna require a lot of glam, let’s be honest. She doesn’t have a particularly impressive one.
Glitter, soft lighting, hand-painted lightning bolts?
Amber is the villain side of Amazi-girl
Honestly? Now that she’s buried both a) the hatchet with Sal, and b) Amber’s dad, I’m 100% on board with the idea of Amazi-girl’s new arch enemy being Amber.
Amber clearly doesn’t want Dorothy to know about the
shredcommand.With good reason. Even your link says it is far from foolproof and if we are talking about cloud storage then the data is undoubtedly be copied and backup on another server. Even if Amber could pull it off she wouldn’t do it for some slightly embarrassing photo on cloud storage.
Recovery tech has advanced to the point that when the government/military needs a hard drives data to be 100% unrecoverable they physically destroy it. It’s the only way to be sure. Even an RMP isn’t guaranteed anymore.
Cloud is worse. You don’t even know which hard drives to destroy, and if you did, you’d need a few squads to reach them, which is not exactly inconspicuous.
Some while ago I came by a Mac Quadra that had belonged to the publishing section of a certain Australian security intelligence organisation, sold at an auction for government surplus.
They had removed the CD-ROM drive and destroyed it (along with the hard disk, of course).
Chances are the regulations say to destroy anything that plugged into any sata connectors, just to be sure.
Amber’s evil look in panel four. She has more of her dad in her than she’s willing to admit
I think she has less traits of her dad than her anxiety tells her she does.
Amber could’ve mentioned that earlier but then she wouldn’t get her fanfic. She’s diabolical. XD
“To the point someone like me can’t recover it? Impossible.”
[Boots up Bleach Bit]
Challenge accepted!
Oooi.
The classic analogy I always remember was “It’s like trying to get the pee out of a pool”
President Dorothy Keener and Space Force Captain Julia Gray flirting. Some yummy ideas for Amber’s fanfic.
Nah, Amber needs at least one cock to keep her interested.
I’m starting to realize I don’t like Amber much, and that makes me sad. I wish she’d get the help she so desperately needs.
That is kind of a strange thing to say in this specific strip where she isn’t showing any of her usual issues.
Just because someone skilled enough can glue shreded my naked picture dont make me not shreded it and throw away to not be seen by less skilled
In all seriousness, folks, always make sure to NOT have your photos auto-backed up to anywhere.