I’ve decided that it’s actually much funnier if Joyce and Dorothy are both 100% straight, but the universe is just conspiring to make them constantly do gay things for lols.
We’re getting close to a situation where Dorothy somehow demonstrates to Joyce how to have sex. Cause that’s just what a straight person does for their homies!
Sure. Completely heterosexual Joyce just sent a picture of her Bisexual Pride Flag-colored panties to completely heterosexual Dorothy, who wears a Pride Flag on her modest chest.
It’s been pointed out that a loooong time ago, we saw that Dorothy’s contact in Joyce’s phone is titled “Roll, Perfect Cinnamon,” which is probably right next to “Rosenthal, Joe”…
Whoops, I was curious about where in the plot that strip was AND BOY DID IT ONLY TAKE EXACTLY ONE STRIP FORWARD TO FIND OUT. No wonder I forgot that panel existed
Huh. That is… enormously contrived, but at least it’s been established. I mean, contacts in my (and everybody else’s, I guess) phone are just sorted by their first name.
The joke about Dorothy being in Joyce’s contacts as “Roll, Perfect Cinnamon” is going on a decade old at this point, I’d be very surprised if it was deliverate set-up for this gag
Do people actually put contacts in their phone last name first like a bibliography entry???? Mine were first name last initial for a long time until I ended up knowing too many people with a common first name and the same last initial and kept texting the wrong one
I put first name in the first name field and last name in the last name field, and let it figure it from there. A quick check says … it lists them as First Last, but groups them by the last name’s first letter.
So, there’s a group of people with B last names, but they’re all alphabetized by their first name within that group, and shown the same way.
Huh. Bit of an odd way to go about it, but it gets the job done.
… Still don’t understand how someone does this though.
How’d she manage to send a picture to Dorothy, then a text to Joe, and THEN a second picture to Dorothy? I could see one mistake, but the switching back and forth and back again?
Oh well. There are much worse people to accidentally send lewd pics to, I suppose. At least she’s not sending them to Jocelyne. That would be awkward.
Could be the text was sent from the texting app, but the image was shared to the texting app from the camera or gallery app making her have to choose a contact for it.
I have definitely sent my sister messages meant for my boyfriend before. Not as lewd (thank god) but still. Happens. They have similar names in my phone
Mood. One of my work bff’s and my favorite things to do is confuse new coworkers by acting incredibly couple-y. (I’m gay in the other direction, but it’s quite fun.)
If one of the two friends in question wasn’t engaged to a different woman I’d definitely be giving them some suspicious looks. As it is, yeah I just sit back and laugh.
Joyce tends to take things a little too far, so she’ll take Dorothy’s advice to heart, do a few things like buy a ring light, a better camera, maybe some LED strips for colorful mood-lighting, find a secure place to host the pics so not just anybody can find them…
A week later Roz angrily shows up at her door.
Roz: “How is your OnlyFans bringing in more money than mine?!”
Personally I think a really good friend would be upfront about it when their friend does something potentially embarrassing without realizing, even if its awkward in the moment, its best to avoid having the same thing happen again.
I agree with you. I would hate to do it, and it would make me super uncomfortable, but I am not the person these pictures are for, it is likely not something they want me to see, they might escalate and “embarrass” themselves more.
If it makes you feel better, I do think Trump’s going to have a hard time implementing at least some of his agenda. Not because Republicans have even a sliver of a moral backbone but because so many of them HATE each other and are gonna be wrestling for their own gain. With any luck, his coalition will be a damn powder keg.
We have to hope Republicans continue to be grossly self interested and incompetent. Please give us the same party that spent four years failing to dismantle the ACA.
Yes, here, here. Let’s hope a few of them have a smidgen of ethics, qualms, or old-school Republican morals. Or that they just fight viciously for four years.
IIRC in the 1960s there was a massive political realignment where a lot of southern conservatives who were former Democratic Party where convinced by Nixon that the Republican Party was their new home. In any case,
The distinction is largely irrelevant in this context, and frankly a situation where the Republicans stop being the most conservative party is probably even more dire
Just to add to this: Trump has already demonstrated himself to be both incompetent and unwilling to take anyone’s advice. Adding to that his continued mental decline and… well, there’s a good chance that they’ll repeatedly fail at being evil in what may well be the last Republican presidency ever (they’re losing voters to time, after all).
Obviously, I can’t guarantee anything, but hopefully it’s just a matter of surviving the next four years and the rebuilding; it’s possible that a second Trump presidency, with even more mismanagement than the first, might be what we need to provoke a stronger anti-Republican backlash and get more people to take politics more seriously than some sort of us v them game.
As to Dumbing of Age and other things you like possibly becoming illegal… well, there’re lots of illegal things on the internet. Compare The Pirate Bay, which is much better known, has far more enemies and has shrugged off efforts to shut it down for longer than this webcomic has existed.
Pandemics aren’t exactly super common, so I wouldn’t worry too much about that one. Although other diseases that we’ve already defeated might become epidemic.
1. The MAGA hive mind gonna juggle guns around like a bunch of IRL Beavus Buttheads and Dale Gribbles and kill themselves by accident with sheer stupidity.
2. Other countries around the world take it into their own hands to intervene on behalf of the vulnerable and the SANE, if need be resorting to extreme measures to restrain what’s become a nationalist, militaristic MONSTER.
3. By some miracle a species of parasite or virus which they refuse to get vaccinated against crawls into their earthling brainsacks and turns them into vegetables, preventing them from hurting us or the environment any further
4. There’s no way outta this. We all gonna die. Life is a b_tch.
In Scenario 3, can they be literal vegetables, like radishes and cabbages? Only, I’d like to get some value out of them, and seein’ as so many folk are hungry an’ all…
It’s not going to be the literal end of the world, but there’s not going to be some miraculuous fix either. It’s gonna be a rough few years and we’ll be living with the consequences for decades to come
I don’t have a lot of money to spare, but we have a room to spare. It is in Germany through, so probably not feasible for a lot of people, and things are getting worse for queer people here too.
I am so sorry. I really wish I could be of real help. Sending you lots of strength. Do not despair. It is not over, stay save.
Have a cup of tea and a lie down and you’ll feel better. You’ll be all right, the country has survived worse and you won’t help yourself getting worked up over things you can’t change.
You have friends so concentrate on the that and the other good things in your life.
Joyce, you’re such a dweeb, why would you send a photo of your panties to him when you could remove your pants in front of him while you two are in the same room?
The whole point of nudes and sexting is because there’s physical distance, it makes no sense if you’re in the same room.
Ok, now I’m curious: How did she send the photos to the wrong person, but the text to the right person in-between the photos? Can understand if the first photo initially went to the wrong person, but then the second photo should have gone to Joe?
Yea, maybe. Don’t know of the messaging apps she’s using here. I’ve made similar mistakes (though not involving self-nudes) where I sent something to a friend instead of to my partner for the first message; subsequent messages are always correct though!
Extremely constructed scenario: she took a picture with the camera app, clicked on share from whatever file manager the camera app uses, and chose the contact in her phone called “<3".
Then she opened the messaging app (which used Joe's actual name instead whatever someone saved him as, so there was no discrepancy Joyce noticed), sent the message, and closed out of the message app.
Ok, yea, that’s possible. Do people use the camera > photos > sharing route now though? I just use the messaging app’s camera feature; it’s faster and easier that way, though the images usually aren’t as good.
She thought she texted with Joe last but it was Dorothy, so she just reflexively brings up the most recent and sends it. She then goes on autopilot and does it a second time.
On a serious note – I’m sorry to all the Americans here. You deserved better. Once again, America proves it hates women more than it cares about itself. I’m sure this’ll be great for Dorothy’s pessimism in the future.
Oh, I’m sure the Democrats will keep trotting out it’s shambling corpse for as long as they can profit from it.
Eagerly excited for them to double down on shit like the Cheney endorsement and continue abandoning any semblance of left-wing progresssivism. If they just tilt a little more to the right I’m sure they’ve got this next time.
If left wing progressives continue being an unreliable voting bloc that’s definitely what’s going to happen, especially when the country in general is turning hard to the right.
Because centrists and “moderate republicans” are reliable? The Dems ran a super centrist campaign and courted the republican vote hard at the cost of embracing progressive policies, and it uh, extremely didn’t turn out. They lost, overwhelmingly. Why would anyone vote for diet republican when they can get the real thing?
One problem I see is that the two Great Parties each try to take in absolutely every position between dead center and infinity to one side. The result is incoherence.
What would Kamala have been able to do anyway, if not be a novelty I would have loved but wouldn’t have been able to do much, as Dorothy has realized the hard way?
Black woman president or not, things like Universal Public Health Care, student debt relief, they would have never happened regardless because The Establishment needs those as enticements to join the military and uphold the United States’ global imperialist hegemony, and all the violence and desolation there-of in places like the Middle East which they absolutely RUINED
the United States government simply can no longer accurately represent our interests, period.
If there’s anything we’ve learned from the passing of the 13th, 14th, 15th amendments and the Jim Crow South and systemic racism designed to circumvent those, as well as countless other instances of the same pattern, it’s that declaration of social justice in Law does NOT make it so in life.
More than anything what needs to happen is that we need to start forming social safety nets derived from means OTHER than formal government.
Over a million public servants have received student debt relief from the Biden administration. The Biden administration placed new requirements on health care insurance that made mental health care accessible to 175 million people, not to mention dragging the country out of the pandemic hellhole Trump left it in. Kamala had plans for helping the Middle East rebuild. The Biden administration also had the largest investment in infrastructure and green energy in years. They passed the Respect for Marriage Act, forcing states to recognize gay marriages from other states even if it’s banned again. Hurricane response and disaster relief.
I know that we’re all tired, depressed, angry and scared right now and there’s good reason for that, but this sort of ‘well nothing ever gets better’ posting does not help. It’s untrue and it’s demoralizing. Why bother to try if nothing can ever get better? I agree we need non government social safety nets but there’s a lot government can do and (putting this energy out there) will do to make things better. It won’t happen overnight but then these issues didn’t happen overnight either. Systemic, multifaceted issues won’t be completely fixed quickly but they can sure as hell be made BETTER.
And we’ll need people like Dorothy to get involved for that to happen. It’s one reason among many I hope she doesn’t actually permanently give up her goal.
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I’ve decided that it’s actually much funnier if Joyce and Dorothy are both 100% straight, but the universe is just conspiring to make them constantly do gay things for lols.
totally with you
We’re getting close to a situation where Dorothy somehow demonstrates to Joyce how to have sex. Cause that’s just what a straight person does for their homies!
I mean, all of the “oops accidentally homoerotic” stuff is much funnier *because* they’re both largely straight. 😀
“Dorothy, you’ve got some mac and cheese on your chest. Mind if I lick it up with my tongue?”
-Purely platonically Joyce.
😳
“Whoops I seem to have dropped my bowl of mac into your lap. Waste not, want not!”
AAAAAH 😳
Sure. Completely heterosexual Joyce just sent a picture of her Bisexual Pride Flag-colored panties to completely heterosexual Dorothy, who wears a Pride Flag on her modest chest.
I think its like a Tweak and Craig thing, where the universe pushes so hard it’s ambiguously maybe true.
to be fair… I hardcore ship Tweak x Craig. ~<3
“I don’t get it! I’m sending pics to SexyPersonWhoLovesMe, why isn’t Joe getting them?”
Joe: Have you tried BringerOfOrgasms?
Joyce: Yeah! Also HotBedmate and StudyBuddyWithBenefits, nothing?
*Joe shrugs*
Narrator: Joe was not about to meet her brother
It’s possible he might meet one of the brothers soon, depending on how this goes. Just not the sibling Joyce thinks she’s talking about here.
… he’ joking about the fact Joyce apaprently has a closeted trans brother
Trans sister, but yes.
I just wouldn’t be surprised if circumstances conspired as such that Joe also ended up meeting John or Jordan in the imminent future
I’m hearing this in the Veggietales Silly Songs with Larry v.o. voice.
How do you not realize who youre texting
I was gonna say, did we miss a bit where Joyce swapped Dorothy and Joe’s names in her contacts?
It’s been pointed out that a loooong time ago, we saw that Dorothy’s contact in Joyce’s phone is titled “Roll, Perfect Cinnamon,” which is probably right next to “Rosenthal, Joe”…
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/meetin/
Oh my gosh it’s that fountain with the weird off-balance Aphrodite. You can’t really see the demonic fish though.
I still don’t understand how she managed to send Joe the text announcing the impending picture and then Dorothy the pic itself right after.
Whoops, I was curious about where in the plot that strip was AND BOY DID IT ONLY TAKE EXACTLY ONE STRIP FORWARD TO FIND OUT. No wonder I forgot that panel existed
Willis pointed out that he seeded that next to Rosenthal, Joe is Dorothy’s contact: Roll, Precious Cinnamon.
Like the joke of playing with fire having two contacts in your phone for Dad and Daddy.
Is dorothy dad or daddy
Oooooh
Time will tell
Does that mean Roz is after Joe?
Could be dangerous too.
Roz has been upon & under Joe, so I think she’s over him instead of after him.
Huh. That is… enormously contrived, but at least it’s been established. I mean, contacts in my (and everybody else’s, I guess) phone are just sorted by their first name.
I think it’s more of a happy coincidence
The joke about Dorothy being in Joyce’s contacts as “Roll, Perfect Cinnamon” is going on a decade old at this point, I’d be very surprised if it was deliverate set-up for this gag
Do people actually put contacts in their phone last name first like a bibliography entry???? Mine were first name last initial for a long time until I ended up knowing too many people with a common first name and the same last initial and kept texting the wrong one
I don’t know about “people” but it does sound like a Joyce thing.
Mine seems to decide on its own whether to sort each entry by first or last name. I should investigate.
I put first name in the first name field and last name in the last name field, and let it figure it from there. A quick check says … it lists them as First Last, but groups them by the last name’s first letter.
So, there’s a group of people with B last names, but they’re all alphabetized by their first name within that group, and shown the same way.
Huh. Bit of an odd way to go about it, but it gets the job done.
… Still don’t understand how someone does this though.
Oh no…
<.<
lololol (on the Dad/Daddy contacts)
How’d she manage to send a picture to Dorothy, then a text to Joe, and THEN a second picture to Dorothy? I could see one mistake, but the switching back and forth and back again?
Oh well. There are much worse people to accidentally send lewd pics to, I suppose. At least she’s not sending them to Jocelyne. That would be awkward.
Could be the text was sent from the texting app, but the image was shared to the texting app from the camera or gallery app making her have to choose a contact for it.
Haha, that’s exactly what I was thinking too.
I have definitely sent my sister messages meant for my boyfriend before. Not as lewd (thank god) but still. Happens. They have similar names in my phone
Cause you open the texting app and forget who the last person you were texting was and don’t pay attention
To quote a couple friends of mine “We’re definitely just friends, but we’re also never going to beat the allegations.”
Mood. One of my work bff’s and my favorite things to do is confuse new coworkers by acting incredibly couple-y. (I’m gay in the other direction, but it’s quite fun.)
If one of the two friends in question wasn’t engaged to a different woman I’d definitely be giving them some suspicious looks. As it is, yeah I just sit back and laugh.
Dorothy liked the first first better, now she’s definitely planning to teach Joyce how to take proper lewd pix
Oh gods, yes…there will be a TUTORIAL.
Joyce tends to take things a little too far, so she’ll take Dorothy’s advice to heart, do a few things like buy a ring light, a better camera, maybe some LED strips for colorful mood-lighting, find a secure place to host the pics so not just anybody can find them…
A week later Roz angrily shows up at her door.
Roz: “How is your OnlyFans bringing in more money than mine?!”
Joyce: “My whatnow?”
Very good. Could happen!
Joyce has more pronounced curves than Roz has, for one thing. While that’s not all that matters, it certainly wouldn’t hurt her prospects.
Willis’ lewd Patreon **is** Joyce’s OnlyFans.
I bet Dorothy’s gotten really turned on from these steamy pics.
You can tell by her expression.
I mean, I can’t tell where/what her non-phone-holding hand is and what it’s doing; it could be in her crotch?
She’s having the most irritated wank ever.
Why doesn’t Dorothy text Joyce back to let her know?
Love her expression on panel three.
She might stop.
Probably to not let Joyce self-combust from embarrassment. Dottie is a good friend after all!
Personally I think a really good friend would be upfront about it when their friend does something potentially embarrassing without realizing, even if its awkward in the moment, its best to avoid having the same thing happen again.
I’d probably do this kind of thing in-person rather than over text; easier to mollify someone in-person.
I agree with you. I would hate to do it, and it would make me super uncomfortable, but I am not the person these pictures are for, it is likely not something they want me to see, they might escalate and “embarrass” themselves more.
She might now have recognized what the first one was
I suspect she is either trying to busy herself with other things, or isn’t sure how to tell her without humiliating her.
Alternative take: she is busy plotting out a lesson plan for teaching Joyce how to take a sexier lewd selfie.
YO GABBA GABBA WHAT THE FUCK
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA XD
I fucking hate everything today but this was nice.
my hatred is overcast by the fact that i just so fucking SCARED
if i can’t get food stamps or shelter independent living place if SSI is gutted, what am I gonna do to sustain myself?
am i gonna have to rely on gamedev stuff, Ko-Fi and GoFundMe to live? i depended on donations before, but not like THIS
are Dumbing of Age and my favorite works gonna be outlawed?
am i gonna be helpless as I and my fellow queer and trans homies are persecuted by the state?
if RFKs anti-vaccine shit passes and a pandemic strikes, I and other disabled folk could wind up DEAD
I’m really fucking worried, if anyone has some assuring news and sources, appreciated more than ever
more than anything PLEASE HUG ME IM SCARED 😭😭😭
*hugs*
If it makes you feel better, I do think Trump’s going to have a hard time implementing at least some of his agenda. Not because Republicans have even a sliver of a moral backbone but because so many of them HATE each other and are gonna be wrestling for their own gain. With any luck, his coalition will be a damn powder keg.
We have to hope Republicans continue to be grossly self interested and incompetent. Please give us the same party that spent four years failing to dismantle the ACA.
Yes, here, here. Let’s hope a few of them have a smidgen of ethics, qualms, or old-school Republican morals. Or that they just fight viciously for four years.
Any hope reliant on republicans having morals is delusion, it’s been that way for longer than I’ve been alive, probably longer than my father has
Republicans or Conservatives?
IIRC in the 1960s there was a massive political realignment where a lot of southern conservatives who were former Democratic Party where convinced by Nixon that the Republican Party was their new home. In any case,
“God, guns, brand new hive mind!!!” (-_-)
The distinction is largely irrelevant in this context, and frankly a situation where the Republicans stop being the most conservative party is probably even more dire
hear, hear!
Just to add to this: Trump has already demonstrated himself to be both incompetent and unwilling to take anyone’s advice. Adding to that his continued mental decline and… well, there’s a good chance that they’ll repeatedly fail at being evil in what may well be the last Republican presidency ever (they’re losing voters to time, after all).
Obviously, I can’t guarantee anything, but hopefully it’s just a matter of surviving the next four years and the rebuilding; it’s possible that a second Trump presidency, with even more mismanagement than the first, might be what we need to provoke a stronger anti-Republican backlash and get more people to take politics more seriously than some sort of us v them game.
As to Dumbing of Age and other things you like possibly becoming illegal… well, there’re lots of illegal things on the internet. Compare The Pirate Bay, which is much better known, has far more enemies and has shrugged off efforts to shut it down for longer than this webcomic has existed.
Pandemics aren’t exactly super common, so I wouldn’t worry too much about that one. Although other diseases that we’ve already defeated might become epidemic.
Uh. That’s all I got. Hope that helps?
appreciated
i don’t even wanna think about the much greater risk of me winding up HOMELESS if SSI is gutted
if it comes to that can only hope it’s like camping with change T_T
Everything will be ok
It wasn’t last time, and it’s probably going to be worse this time.
Especially given, y’know, the looming ecological and climate collapse where our chance at mitigation is rapidly slipping away if it’s not already gone
I foresee several outcomes:
1. The MAGA hive mind gonna juggle guns around like a bunch of IRL Beavus Buttheads and Dale Gribbles and kill themselves by accident with sheer stupidity.
2. Other countries around the world take it into their own hands to intervene on behalf of the vulnerable and the SANE, if need be resorting to extreme measures to restrain what’s become a nationalist, militaristic MONSTER.
3. By some miracle a species of parasite or virus which they refuse to get vaccinated against crawls into their earthling brainsacks and turns them into vegetables, preventing them from hurting us or the environment any further
4. There’s no way outta this. We all gonna die. Life is a b_tch.
In Scenario 3, can they be literal vegetables, like radishes and cabbages? Only, I’d like to get some value out of them, and seein’ as so many folk are hungry an’ all…
I mean sure, if SSI is gutted I guess some vegetables would be nice change from shitty cup ramen and wild prickly pears I’d have to live on (;-;)
It’s not going to be the literal end of the world, but there’s not going to be some miraculuous fix either. It’s gonna be a rough few years and we’ll be living with the consequences for decades to come
“The end of the world is like a slow break-up. It’s always ‘not happening’ until it’s already happened”
— Ian Danskin
I don’t have a lot of money to spare, but we have a room to spare. It is in Germany through, so probably not feasible for a lot of people, and things are getting worse for queer people here too.
I am so sorry. I really wish I could be of real help. Sending you lots of strength. Do not despair. It is not over, stay save.
Have a cup of tea and a lie down and you’ll feel better. You’ll be all right, the country has survived worse and you won’t help yourself getting worked up over things you can’t change.
You have friends so concentrate on the that and the other good things in your life.
Nope, definitely not everything.
It’s going to be rough as hell, but we’ll get through it. We don’t really have any other choice.
Dorothy just reply to her texts and let her down politely
I wanna see Becky’s freak out over Dorothy getting Joyce lewds
Hahaha YES
Lol poor jorothy is all “wth doyce wtf are you sending me”
Joyce, you’re such a dweeb, why would you send a photo of your panties to him when you could remove your pants in front of him while you two are in the same room?
The whole point of nudes and sexting is because there’s physical distance, it makes no sense if you’re in the same room.
Well, Joyce is a dweeb, and I think they’re in the corridor?
A corridor is just a room with fewer limitations.
Joyce has been pantsless in the corridor before.
Actually, come to think of it, given the laundry room and kitchen incidents, stripping in the corridor is pretty on-brand for Joyce.
I can’t wait for Becky to find out Joyce sent Dorothy lewd photos.
Ok, now I’m curious: How did she send the photos to the wrong person, but the text to the right person in-between the photos? Can understand if the first photo initially went to the wrong person, but then the second photo should have gone to Joe?
Maybe she closed the messages app in after the text, then made the mistake again.
That or she sent the photos over something like Snapchat but the text over another app?
Yea, maybe. Don’t know of the messaging apps she’s using here. I’ve made similar mistakes (though not involving self-nudes) where I sent something to a friend instead of to my partner for the first message; subsequent messages are always correct though!
Extremely constructed scenario: she took a picture with the camera app, clicked on share from whatever file manager the camera app uses, and chose the contact in her phone called “<3".
Then she opened the messaging app (which used Joe's actual name instead whatever someone saved him as, so there was no discrepancy Joyce noticed), sent the message, and closed out of the message app.
Totally plausible. Blame the share sheet.
Ok, yea, that’s possible. Do people use the camera > photos > sharing route now though? I just use the messaging app’s camera feature; it’s faster and easier that way, though the images usually aren’t as good.
if youre sharing directly from the photos app its way easier to click the wrong person
She thought she texted with Joe last but it was Dorothy, so she just reflexively brings up the most recent and sends it. She then goes on autopilot and does it a second time.
“If she’s going to send me boob pics, she could at least send me good ones. The framing has a certain informal charm, but I can’t see shit.”
That panel 3 pic!
SO HOT.
*fans self
Joyce has become Louise C. Pantry from Octopus Pie. (That’s a while back, though.) The same casual attitude to taking pictures.
Cute underwear, in any case.
Are we sure that’s not just her shirt?
Dorothy, you taught her how to masturbate, like, last week, you can’t be that put off
She’s probably disgusted because she knows who those photos were meant for.
XD Well, Dorothy is having an interesting day.
On a serious note – I’m sorry to all the Americans here. You deserved better. Once again, America proves it hates women more than it cares about itself. I’m sure this’ll be great for Dorothy’s pessimism in the future.
Neoliberalism is dead. What’s taking it’s place isn’t any better, but I still take a sort of cold comfort in that.
Oh, I’m sure the Democrats will keep trotting out it’s shambling corpse for as long as they can profit from it.
Eagerly excited for them to double down on shit like the Cheney endorsement and continue abandoning any semblance of left-wing progresssivism. If they just tilt a little more to the right I’m sure they’ve got this next time.
If left wing progressives continue being an unreliable voting bloc that’s definitely what’s going to happen, especially when the country in general is turning hard to the right.
Because centrists and “moderate republicans” are reliable? The Dems ran a super centrist campaign and courted the republican vote hard at the cost of embracing progressive policies, and it uh, extremely didn’t turn out. They lost, overwhelmingly. Why would anyone vote for diet republican when they can get the real thing?
Like I would be mad about a lot of this even if they won. I’m not going to be happy about them campaigning with the Cheneys under any circumstances.
But it didn’t even work! They made a deal with the devil and got nothing for it, they lost to the tune of millions of votes!
We do have a Progressive Party.
One problem I see is that the two Great Parties each try to take in absolutely every position between dead center and infinity to one side. The result is incoherence.
What would Kamala have been able to do anyway, if not be a novelty I would have loved but wouldn’t have been able to do much, as Dorothy has realized the hard way?
Black woman president or not, things like Universal Public Health Care, student debt relief, they would have never happened regardless because The Establishment needs those as enticements to join the military and uphold the United States’ global imperialist hegemony, and all the violence and desolation there-of in places like the Middle East which they absolutely RUINED
the United States government simply can no longer accurately represent our interests, period.
If there’s anything we’ve learned from the passing of the 13th, 14th, 15th amendments and the Jim Crow South and systemic racism designed to circumvent those, as well as countless other instances of the same pattern, it’s that declaration of social justice in Law does NOT make it so in life.
More than anything what needs to happen is that we need to start forming social safety nets derived from means OTHER than formal government.
Over a million public servants have received student debt relief from the Biden administration. The Biden administration placed new requirements on health care insurance that made mental health care accessible to 175 million people, not to mention dragging the country out of the pandemic hellhole Trump left it in. Kamala had plans for helping the Middle East rebuild. The Biden administration also had the largest investment in infrastructure and green energy in years. They passed the Respect for Marriage Act, forcing states to recognize gay marriages from other states even if it’s banned again. Hurricane response and disaster relief.
I know that we’re all tired, depressed, angry and scared right now and there’s good reason for that, but this sort of ‘well nothing ever gets better’ posting does not help. It’s untrue and it’s demoralizing. Why bother to try if nothing can ever get better? I agree we need non government social safety nets but there’s a lot government can do and (putting this energy out there) will do to make things better. It won’t happen overnight but then these issues didn’t happen overnight either. Systemic, multifaceted issues won’t be completely fixed quickly but they can sure as hell be made BETTER.
And we’ll need people like Dorothy to get involved for that to happen. It’s one reason among many I hope she doesn’t actually permanently give up her goal.
Thank you. Really well said.
I cannot stress enough how flappin’ hot I find what Joyce is doing is.
The expression on Dorothy’s face is golden
to be fair, i’ve sent a few messages to people and they have told me “i didn’t get these” and… i never actually learned who did
Oh no…
NARRATOR: He was not about to meet her brother.
As far as she knows right now…
Once is an accident,
twice is a coincidence,
thrice is a pattern.
… except in this case, ’cause there’s already a pattern on those panties.
I see your face Dorothy…
but where is your hand?
Where is your hand!!!?
jk 😛
Now it’s more amateur artworks than lewd photos.
(Dorothy has somehow earned Joyce’s) stripes
Everyone in the US, please stay safe and stay strong.
oh. oh my. wow…
OK, as funny as this is, Dorothy why haven’t you messaged Joyce back to tell her that YOU’RE getting Joyce’s lewd pics? XD
Dorothy is gonna text her something like “stop sending me your lewd pics” and Joyce is gonna read it and freak out when she’s with her sister.
She’s going to read it out loud:
Joyce: Woops, text from Dorothy.
Jocelyne: Oh, what’s up with her?
Joyce: “Please stop texting me your lewd pix.”
Jocelyne: What?!
Joyce: [face]
Joyce is wearing striped underwear now? The girl’s gone wild!