I’m not trying to harp on Old Joe, he’s had a lot of character development since that line, but we definitely know what his previous rating for her was and it was not quite a 10.
i think so, too. i think she’s actually not any number to him anymore because the Feelings™ have come into the equation.
So, it’s safe to say she never was a 10. She was a 6, then a 0-, and now she’s a PERSON, which is the best rating you can be!
Not just attractive, but “hot”, which implies sexual attraction. Joe has thus far been very careful not to objectify her, but she’s obviously horny for him and likes the implication that it’s returned.
An exquisite elf?
An élan edamame?
An enchanting egg?
An erudite enchantress?
… Probably not an elegant elephant. Most girls don’t want to be called an elephant, but I have been fighting my brain insistently telling me E IS FOR ELEPHANT for so long now…
…A sexy space-force-captain
A titillating tigress
An unfathomable undergraduate
A voluptuous vixen
A wily woman,
An X-rated XX-chromosome-genotype
A yummy youth
A zaftig zealot!
yeah i would hthink the only thing not associated with ‘masculinity’ is maybe like, yoga class but that would be quite entertaining to see joyce flustered with joe’s ‘flexibility’ 8D;
Also, Joe never cared about that stuff. He used to be a bit of a macho asshole, but he was never a “fragile masculinity” asshole. I don’t have the exact quote, but I’m thinking of the time he told Walky something like “If your masculinity hinges on dumb rules you make up, keep it to yourself.”
Doesn’t spin class bruise your butt if you’re new to it? My dad took me to one once and even lent me a pair of padded cycling shorts and it still felt like my ass was on fire the whole time. The soreness in the days after was worse than first time horseback riding. Joyce wouldn’t cope well with that
Naw but I actually really love this strip. I dunno why but girls taking pride in being “hot” absolutely sends me and Joyce is such a fucking doofus about it.
prolly ‘piece of tail/ass xD; tho it is an odd metaphor, these days i’d think someone would say that about a furry considering humans don’t have tails XD;
I’d probably think lower back tattoo (what used to be called a tramp stamp when I was in my teens and hopefully isn’t still?) if I heard tail piece? Despite having no ink…
That’s the only thing I could come up with, too. Somewhere along the line Joyce heard the term ‘piece of tail’ to describe a desirable woman, not realizing the true implications of the term – and then of course got it reverse to become a ‘tail piece’.
It’s “Milkshake” by Kelis. It’s a weird song. The intended meaning seems pretty clearly to be “I have sex appeal”, overall, but understanding what the lyrics specifically refer to is… well, I don’t understand it. It reads a bit like a Zen koan to me.
Hot chick wearing hot pink (srsly tho Joyce, check yourself before you wreck yourself, like why would she be THE milkshake, the milkshake comes from someone who shakes the milk, aka the one who has the rizz)
Joyce saying all the objectifying things about herself but it’s fun now seems like maybe whiplash. But also it super is different when you get to enjoy being attractive to someone than when they’re letting it be known that you are without permission.
Well i dont’ think shes considered herself ‘hot’ in the conventional way but this kinda ver is better than what jen was trying to turn her into in teh beginning lol
I read Joyce as feeling a mix of emotions here, because not only is this her boyfriend, and I get the sense she’s caught feelings pretty hard too, but his whole previous persona when he was in his self-imposed Ethical Shallow Asshole state was being the Leonardo da Vinci of comparative chick hotness. And by this point, Joyce is aware that her whole persona is being a dorky homeschooler who was about as hard into her Christianity as a Picture Bible-chomping Pac Man. It’s like J.S. Bach casually naming me, in utter sincerity, that I’m a Great Composer. There’s incredulity, pride (because they really *should* actually know), and a fair reason to tease them for it. “You, who really should know, think that ridiculous little ol’ me is a Great Composer / Hot Chick? Me? Really? You sure you’re not going soft?”
also, i like the motion lines implying that she let go of the machine, landed on her face and flopped a full 90+ degree arc all the way over onto her front
God help us if she figures out what the milkshake actually represents. I didn’t find out until I was an adult, and if it had been while I was still discovering myself sexually I would have been very grossed out.
Besides barely ever needing a bra, I never got why other girls stored coins in theirs. For me the sensation of metal there was just so overwhelming aaaah 😵
I know a lot of people seem to think the song is about boobs, but I heard a different explanation from a friend of mine. It seems like you don’t really want to know, so I won’t say. It’s not anything I find gross as an adult, but as someone who was just learning about sex it would have been a bit much for me.
Okay so the official, lame pr answer is “whatever makes women ✨special✨”
The unofficial speculatory answer I’ve found is, and imma give you a chance to scroll past if you really don’t wanna know
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It’s nut, it’s just nut. Like, oral. Swallowing. Tbh not that extreme compared to modern sex anthems like WAP or Go to Town, or really like any of doja cats discography pre Say So
She’s vaguely familiar with many snippets of popular culture that managed to poke their way through her upbringing and/or hit their saturation point in the last four months, thankyouverymuch.
cardio is very important to exercise. I heard testimony from a body builder that when you weigh 300 pounds your heart doesn’t care if that is fat or muscle, so cardio is important to make sure you don’t deal with y’know…death
Okay, honestly, I’m just utterly endeared at how much Joyce is enjoying finding out that she is an attractive person. I’m not sure if she’s ever been told she was a hot chick before and so for her to hear it from someone she finds ridiculously attractive is probably shooting her ego so high rn. It’s utterly adorable how she’s basking in it xD
She’s not worried about looking weird, or being a dork, or getting things wrong. She knows Joe is there for it and isn’t going to judge her, and it’s just lovely.
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“you’re a hot MESS is what you are”
“YEAH, I’m HOT!”
Joyce: I’m a girl with challah on her back.
Joe: This is actually far more painful than being punched.
Well now i want Challah . . .
Well, it’s December, and now I want to make a bread pudding with challah.
That is really really funny. I heard it immediately. I can’t unhear it.
I feel silly, but I’m not sure what song this is referencing? Can someone explain
Hollaback Girl I believe is the name. “Challah” being pronounced similarly to “holla”.
Too cute!
Dumbing of Age Book 14: I’m a Milkshake in a Yard!
Shes grown too powerful
Does Joyce not quite realize Joe actually finds her attractive, I mean I don’t think its the burn Joyce thinks it is…
I think this might be the first sign that Joyce is okay with being an attractive person.
It’s certainly a notable development.
well, he did rate her a zero minus when his list was leaked lol
She also (correctly) guessed that he had changed it, and the implication was heavy that she had previously been a 10.
In any case, she knows, she just thinks it’s fun to be playful about it and how she flusters him, and definitely revels in it.
I mean he said out loud that she was a 6 he planned to “upgrade” to a 10 by deflowering.
I’m not trying to harp on Old Joe, he’s had a lot of character development since that line, but we definitely know what his previous rating for her was and it was not quite a 10.
i think so, too. i think she’s actually not any number to him anymore because the Feelings™ have come into the equation.
So, it’s safe to say she never was a 10. She was a 6, then a 0-, and now she’s a PERSON, which is the best rating you can be!
Not just attractive, but “hot”, which implies sexual attraction. Joe has thus far been very careful not to objectify her, but she’s obviously horny for him and likes the implication that it’s returned.
I’m pretty sure it’s flirty teasing.
i’m a milkshake bringin’ boys to the yard
and they’re like, “who left this milkshake in the yard”
“I’m not drinking this, it’s unsanitary. I just came over to scold you for littering.”
Being a litterbum is a serious offence! 😀
Now why did my link not work….
Rrrrrrrrrampage!
Sweetheart is the best at rampaging.
Master Shake, of course.
That sounds like a Homsar line.
But who left the cake out in the rain?
HAH! Joe’s facial expression!
The expressions in the last panel give me life.
joyce achieves an ego
Damn, really running the Joyce Face Gamut.
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sexy momma? 😳🫠 ~aaaaaaaaaaaah~
A comely lass, a bodacious babe, a dollface, a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers S1E31 “Calamity Kimberly”, and she’s also an IBM.
a cutie patootie
A real sack of rice.
Bless my soul.
An adorable apple
A bodacious babe
A comely cutie
A darling dollface
Hmmm… what’s for “e”?
An exquisite elf?
An élan edamame?
An enchanting egg?
An erudite enchantress?
… Probably not an elegant elephant. Most girls don’t want to be called an elephant, but I have been fighting my brain insistently telling me E IS FOR ELEPHANT for so long now…
Ooh, an erudite enchantress… I LOVE it! Thanks, Miri!
…A fine freak
A gorgeous girl
A hunk o’ hottie
Ok, I’m stuck again.
…What’s for “i”?
An incredible insurrectionist.
An irresistible ingenue.
Ooh, perfect! Thank you, Taffy and John!
OK, J…
A jiggly juicyfruit
A killer kumquat
A lovely lady
A minx with moxie
A naughty no-no
An oglable omnisexual
A pretty patootie
A queenly Q(T(π)) (3.14159…)
OK, r… r… a little help, folx?
She’s the ravishing, romantic, randy, really repressed roommate of a rude ruffian, and recently reconsidered religion and rebelled.
Oh, goodness gracious, John!
*Sweeps off comically large feathered cap, bows low, brushes it to the ground.*
I sit in awe.
…A sexy space-force-captain
A titillating tigress
An unfathomable undergraduate
A voluptuous vixen
A wily woman,
An X-rated XX-chromosome-genotype
A yummy youth
A zaftig zealot!
*applause*
“…Herc was on a roll.”
Treadmill is PEAK exercising. I don’t think there’s any un-masculine implications in some cardio.
yeah i would hthink the only thing not associated with ‘masculinity’ is maybe like, yoga class but that would be quite entertaining to see joyce flustered with joe’s ‘flexibility’ 8D;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhmzcLIX9T0&ab_channel=PaigeyPops spin class would prolly be fitting for joyce tho lol
Also, Joe never cared about that stuff. He used to be a bit of a macho asshole, but he was never a “fragile masculinity” asshole. I don’t have the exact quote, but I’m thinking of the time he told Walky something like “If your masculinity hinges on dumb rules you make up, keep it to yourself.”
When Dorothy and Walky kicked Walky’s shoes past Ruth’s room and they didn’t want to deal with recovering them.
Doesn’t spin class bruise your butt if you’re new to it? My dad took me to one once and even lent me a pair of padded cycling shorts and it still felt like my ass was on fire the whole time. The soreness in the days after was worse than first time horseback riding. Joyce wouldn’t cope well with that
GRARRGGGG CARDIO KILLS GAINZ BREATH PROTEIN INSTEAD OF AIR HI TEST
Joyce at her peakest.
Naw but I actually really love this strip. I dunno why but girls taking pride in being “hot” absolutely sends me and Joyce is such a fucking doofus about it.
Honestly people finding self-confidence in their own attractiveness in general is pretty great, as long as they’re not douchey about it.
hence the contrasting attitudes Malaya has towards her own hotness
Confidence is attractive.
Kinda curious if Joe and/or Jacob skip leg day. Though I guess the treadmill is more cardio…
Considering Joes arms look bigger than his legs I’d say legs isn’t high on his list of priorities
a gremolin
Cardio kills gains though.
Or so I’ve heard from a legend.
“jogging is the worst, it keeps you healthy but at what cost” xD
“Tail piece”?
prolly ‘piece of tail/ass xD; tho it is an odd metaphor, these days i’d think someone would say that about a furry considering humans don’t have tails XD;
I am not sure if your understanding of these days is very good.
Oddly appropriate avatar is oddly appropriate.
I’d probably think lower back tattoo (what used to be called a tramp stamp when I was in my teens and hopefully isn’t still?) if I heard tail piece? Despite having no ink…
*probably
That’s the only thing I could come up with, too. Somewhere along the line Joyce heard the term ‘piece of tail’ to describe a desirable woman, not realizing the true implications of the term – and then of course got it reverse to become a ‘tail piece’.
I thought it was another distortion of that song that Joe is talking about, which I don’t recognize and probably have not heard.
It’s “Milkshake” by Kelis. It’s a weird song. The intended meaning seems pretty clearly to be “I have sex appeal”, overall, but understanding what the lyrics specifically refer to is… well, I don’t understand it. It reads a bit like a Zen koan to me.
That’s the short pipe fastened to the underside of the sink, that makes an adjustable-length joint with the trap through a compression fitting.
Dunno what it has to do with Joyce….
She’s mixing up “piece of tail” with the even grosser “slam piece” im pretty sure
Treadmills are a great thing… ask Daphne.
Hot chick wearing hot pink (srsly tho Joyce, check yourself before you wreck yourself, like why would she be THE milkshake, the milkshake comes from someone who shakes the milk, aka the one who has the rizz)
Terminator Run Daphne?
She is rizzing him with tremendous force
Joyce saying all the objectifying things about herself but it’s fun now seems like maybe whiplash. But also it super is different when you get to enjoy being attractive to someone than when they’re letting it be known that you are without permission.
Well i dont’ think shes considered herself ‘hot’ in the conventional way but this kinda ver is better than what jen was trying to turn her into in teh beginning lol
Yeah, Jen was trying to mold Joyce into something she isn’t, following her own mean girl clique-y tropes.
This is Joyce reveling in the fact that someone else finds her desirable as she is (or at least as she is now, after changing on her own terms).
I read Joyce as feeling a mix of emotions here, because not only is this her boyfriend, and I get the sense she’s caught feelings pretty hard too, but his whole previous persona when he was in his self-imposed Ethical Shallow Asshole state was being the Leonardo da Vinci of comparative chick hotness. And by this point, Joyce is aware that her whole persona is being a dorky homeschooler who was about as hard into her Christianity as a Picture Bible-chomping Pac Man. It’s like J.S. Bach casually naming me, in utter sincerity, that I’m a Great Composer. There’s incredulity, pride (because they really *should* actually know), and a fair reason to tease them for it. “You, who really should know, think that ridiculous little ol’ me is a Great Composer / Hot Chick? Me? Really? You sure you’re not going soft?”
I mean, Joyce knows enough to know what the milkshake IS.
She has read Amber’s LITERATURE… Presumably it’s not all m/m.
The interpretation that I’m familiar with would very much be in line with m/m.
… But it’s a girl singing. Her milkshake is bringing all the boys to the yard…
*plays “Super Freak” by Rick James on hacked muzak*
look at Joyce being incredibly cute!!!
“ohoho, babe, you had a cruuush on meee? that’s embarrassing.”
“we’re married…”
“still!”
also, i like the motion lines implying that she let go of the machine, landed on her face and flopped a full 90+ degree arc all the way over onto her front
Raised her arms, braced against the floor, kicked off at the top and landed on her belly, is how it looks to me. Ouchy but could have been worse.
These are the only dumbing of age characters that I think might end up happily married
Sal and Dan have a shot, but they’ll have to go no contact with her parents.
Becky and Dina possibly.
As if Sal won’t go low/no contact with them immediately after she’s handed her diploma anyway.
(Or degree, whichever. Potatoe/potatoe.)
Dorkness is eclipsing hotness as we speak… or rather, the more Joyce speaks. 😛
The “I can do the treadmill” panel Is so sweet. Something about Joe’s expression conveys a lot of emotion.
God help us if she figures out what the milkshake actually represents. I didn’t find out until I was an adult, and if it had been while I was still discovering myself sexually I would have been very grossed out.
It’s just… shaking the boobs, isn’t it? Please?
Milk doesn’t come from boobs, silly. They’re for storing coins in.
Besides barely ever needing a bra, I never got why other girls stored coins in theirs. For me the sensation of metal there was just so overwhelming aaaah 😵
I know a lot of people seem to think the song is about boobs, but I heard a different explanation from a friend of mine. It seems like you don’t really want to know, so I won’t say. It’s not anything I find gross as an adult, but as someone who was just learning about sex it would have been a bit much for me.
there’s two official explanations, and one of them is “it’s whatever you want to imagine,” so both boob shaking and the sex act fit.
Isn’t it just ass? Like shaking ass? Most things are ass, I always assumed that’s what it was. I really wanna know now
Okay so the official, lame pr answer is “whatever makes women ✨special✨”
The unofficial speculatory answer I’ve found is, and imma give you a chance to scroll past if you really don’t wanna know
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.
.
It’s nut, it’s just nut. Like, oral. Swallowing. Tbh not that extreme compared to modern sex anthems like WAP or Go to Town, or really like any of doja cats discography pre Say So
Joe’s eyes in the last panel tho
Panel 6 is the most attractive i have ever found joyce.
Troll Joyce is best Joyce.
Trying to figure out if Joyce knows older compliments, such as “dish” or the adjective “comely”.
“Dare I even say, a hot patootie.”
She’s vaguely familiar with many snippets of popular culture that managed to poke their way through her upbringing and/or hit their saturation point in the last four months, thankyouverymuch.
she has seen the internet, we-all know
–Dave, and has worked through most of the resuling horripilations
ps: yes that’s a real word
pps: but the one before it … is not. gah
Joyce needling Joe for finding her attractive will always give me life.
cardio is very important to exercise. I heard testimony from a body builder that when you weigh 300 pounds your heart doesn’t care if that is fat or muscle, so cardio is important to make sure you don’t deal with y’know…death
Tailpiece? So Joyce is the part of a violin that attaches the strings to the bottom of the body?
Okay, honestly, I’m just utterly endeared at how much Joyce is enjoying finding out that she is an attractive person. I’m not sure if she’s ever been told she was a hot chick before and so for her to hear it from someone she finds ridiculously attractive is probably shooting her ego so high rn. It’s utterly adorable how she’s basking in it xD
I’m reminded of Sandra Bullock’s teasing in Miss Congeniality:
“You think I’m gorrrrgeous. You want to kiiiiss me. You want to huuuuug me.”
smuggum
I’m always here for smug women
Moar liek hot Chickt, amiright?
Sorry Joe, no backsies!
So cute! I still love how comfortable Joyce is with Joe.
I love when Joyce is her actual self.
She’s not worried about looking weird, or being a dork, or getting things wrong. She knows Joe is there for it and isn’t going to judge her, and it’s just lovely.
Those faces on the end give me life, me & my fiancé do the same thing so this is just wonderful to see for their relationship.
Himbo X cute dork is a peak ship
… dangit they’re so freaking cute
This is so cute