well, they had a convo about becky being attracted , and dina possibly being asexual, but i don’t think she’d really be that detailed in a reply and leslie would probably assume they just talked about it as opposed to “we had sex, but dina regretted it” (which she didn’t) but i understand not telling a teacher about it even if it’s leslie (tho tbh i’m surprised more random strangers didn’t overhear it, shouting that kinda stuff like with becky being a lesbian seems like something that’d spread throughout a whole school if not just the wing)
Well, she took Robin’s advice who is not entirely awesome at making adult relationship decisions, so at least one alternative is the world literally reversing in time and gummy-people becoming the dominant species.
Not saying that was Leslie’s main concern. I think that was more, like “you experience sexual arousal and your partner does not, so you gotta figure out what you are comfortable with together whether that means staying together non-sexually, polyamory or going your separate ways”, but with Robin involved I don’t think gummy-people is out of question.
Totes, as Dina has so brilliantly demonstrated. For science.
I made that comment more based on Leslie/Robin/Becky strips from March. Specifically Leslie’s input around “ya gotta decide how important ~things~ to you and whether it’s worth it”
Honestly most of the teachers we’ve met seem pretty detached from the affairs of their students, it’s just that Leslie and Robin have the misfortune of being major characters.
Well both professor Alex’s (?) didn’t really care, tbh i think leslie and robin are the only teachers (if you really consider robin a prof) that are actual ‘cahracters’
i mean, do we really need to ‘accomplish’ anything? should be enough just to be alive, but alas, capitalism has poisoned everyone’s thinking (nothing wrong if you do have a dream to chase after of course, but i think it’s fine as opposed to you actively trying to make the world worse or so)
I actually think accomplishing things is a fundamental drive and most people LIKE to do things that make the world run/be productive. One of the things that frustrates people trying to reform prison labor is due to how crushingly horrifically boring life is (to the point of mental torture), there’s a vast list of volunteers for prison jobs even when they’re paid pennies.
As opposed to the good old days before capitalism poisoned everyone’s thinking? And the vast majority of people could have no ambition but trying to scrape by farming a patch of land they couldn’t even own.
Or various empires, which weren’t feudal, but still left vast majorities in dire poverty.
To be fair, one could count hunter-gatherer societies, which did have much more leisure time, but had their own problems.
Mostly, there’s a tendency in some circles to blame capitalism for problems that run much deeper in the human condition.
I’m 64 and most of my accomplishments are surviving shit that most people wouldn’t. And delivering my youngest daughter at home with a compound breech delivery and nobody even had a serious injury, those are not infrequent killers of either the baby, the mother, or both.
How would Leslie feel slighted though? She never said that Becky and Dina couldn’t bang, just that they should talk things out and would eventually come to a solution. Which is exactly what happened. Robin just said it’s okay to make mistakes. If Becky is more relating her experience to Robin’s advice over Leslie’s than it feels like she thinks sex with Dina was a mistake.
i like leslie and all but unless we were the same age and actual friends rather than her being a teacher figure, i wouldn’t have told her either. if anything i’d be more likely to tell joyce
I didn’t even read it this way! I just took it as a “yes we did the talking and did not break up/there was no negative consequences”. With your meep I’m curious to see whether it *is* hiding that smex happened or not.
i mean even if she’s technically 18 now? i’d think she’d still be considered a kid/teen being taken in if she needed a place to stay (if anything i’m surprised any 18 year old can move out on their own even with a roommate or two the same age, other than a landlord scamming/taking advantage of someone not yet in their 20s/just starting out, i’d also feel like some places would make you cosign with someone 25-30+ or so as some kinda ‘responsibility’ thing to insure that some young dumb teen doesn’t wreck the place/ruin the other neighbor’s experiences [tho i’ve never lived on my own so idk how hard it is to find an apartment /decent living situation even if you have enough money])
What’s happening? It used to be normal for 18 years to move out. Have rents jacked up so much in the US that you are starting to tell people kids should stay with their parents until they are in their twenties?
Some people I know moved into their own tiny flats when they were 16.
So, do you just not read the news, or are you from someplace else, where things aren’t as incessantly terrible? The rent’s been too damn high for years and years (and years), and it’s not showing any signs of getting any lower. People are broke, landlords are predators, and robots are buying all the houses.
Haha yes rents have indeed gotten that jacket up. It’s so bad that people are staying with family until they want to start a family and sometimes they stay with their parents even then. (That’s actually completely fine with me and is what I view as more traditional than the nuclear family structure, but it’s still bad because abusive parents exist. You should want the option to move out.)
Yes? It’s almost prohibitively expensive for young adults to live on their own in modern America, and there’s no fucking reason why they should feel like they have to in the first place. Multi-generational households are historically the norm through most of human existence, across all continents and civilizations.
The “moving out at 18 and setting up your own household” thing is very recent, culturally speaking, and it’s kind of an American white person expectation in the first place. It’s a bullshit idea that rose during a weird little bubble of prosperity for a certain class of Americans for a few decades, and it’s rapidly falling out of favor now that that kind of prosperity has vanished and all the money has been sucked back up by the wealthy.
I mean, I’m kind of surprised landlords don’t pull that shit too, but at the same time it would make it even harder for young adults who don’t have parents to fall back on. Like, what would a Becky do if she’d somehow managed to scrape together enough money/roommates for rent but still wasn’t allowed to unless she could get her parents to cosign? Or even some “more adult” adult.
I think generally these days they don’t use age strictly, but they use credit checks, which can amount to the same thing, since near homeless teens don’t really build up good credit scores.
I know back in my late teens and early 20s I rented a bunch of different places without any kind of co-signing. A lot of them were subletting from other young renters – roommates or taking a room over a college break, but some were directly through the landlord. Long time ago now, but I don’t remember that ever coming up directly.
Fun fact, in the UK teachers can get fired from their entire career without warning for attending the same sports club as a student and the police might get alerted to investigate, just in case!
If that’d been the case here, both Becky and Lesley woulda been screwed :-/
so…if a teacher is a longtime member of a sports club, and one of their students decides to join said club on a whim, the teacher has to quit that club? Is there some other bit of context that I’m missing, because that seems really unfair.
Hmm, I’m unsure about that order tbh! Schools don’t all have the exact same set of rules though, and some are more strict in their interpretations than others.
Uhm… Leslie can easily hear it from the other students because Becky wasn’t extacly subtle that she got laid with Dina.
Yikes. good i am not in Becky’s shoes when Leslie finds out.
“Why did you lie to me? i thought you TRUSTED me? did you think i would kick you out just because you got sex?”
Sure, except none of the other students are talking about it, because they don’t much care, and to the extent that any of them do care, they’re mostly not talking about it in case Joyce finds out.
Also, the Leslie in my head understands why people might not be comfortable discussing certain things in certain circumstances. She’d be a bit hurt, but she wouldn’t take it out on Becky. I accept the Leslie in your head feels differently, and we’ll just have to see which is closer to the Leslie in Willis’s head.
This is incredibly sad. Becky is afraid to tells the truth to one of the women that helped her the most in her life. She’s afraid of her reaction… she don’t trust Leslie at all…she don’t trust herself at all too! Now I want to see if Becky will do the same with Robin.
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/in the same “NOTHING” tone when your mom asked what you kids were up to
Smash cut to Dina telling Robin that she and Becky had sex lol
YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP.
Does Dina even know Robin? She’s not in Becky’s poli-sci class, is she?
oh i read that as becky tells robin.
I HAVE THE VERY BEST LINK TO GIVE YOU FOR THIS.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-10/01-birthday-pursuit/5footturkey/
(also there was that time Becky and Dina were watching cartoons with Robin, but this one’s both before that and better)
Excellent!
… Is Robin scared, or experiencing extremely confused arousal?
nothing at all… nothing at all… nothing at all…
stupid sexy dina
wait no
…clever sexy dina
Becky as Homer and Dina as Flanders?! No, No! GET THAT IMAGE OUT MY HEAD.
Too late. Dina’s now wearing a ski outfit.
I am lost. What is the alternative?
A thing happened.
Specifically the kind of thing happened where it happening means what was happening is no longer happening.
It not working out and them breaking up, I suppose
Wait, does Leslie know they had sex?
I don’t see how she would? She might guess based on this interaction
well, they had a convo about becky being attracted , and dina possibly being asexual, but i don’t think she’d really be that detailed in a reply and leslie would probably assume they just talked about it as opposed to “we had sex, but dina regretted it” (which she didn’t) but i understand not telling a teacher about it even if it’s leslie (tho tbh i’m surprised more random strangers didn’t overhear it, shouting that kinda stuff like with becky being a lesbian seems like something that’d spread throughout a whole school if not just the wing)
A serious falling-out and/or breakup, I think? Given that the last time Becky talked to Leslie, it was about Becky’s concerns that her own horniness and Dina’s lack thereof were irreconcilable.
Well, she took Robin’s advice who is not entirely awesome at making adult relationship decisions, so at least one alternative is the world literally reversing in time and gummy-people becoming the dominant species.
Not saying that was Leslie’s main concern. I think that was more, like “you experience sexual arousal and your partner does not, so you gotta figure out what you are comfortable with together whether that means staying together non-sexually, polyamory or going your separate ways”, but with Robin involved I don’t think gummy-people is out of question.
That’s assuming your partner doesn’t want to have sex without asking them. Plenty of asexual people have sex!
Totes, as Dina has so brilliantly demonstrated. For science.
I made that comment more based on Leslie/Robin/Becky strips from March. Specifically Leslie’s input around “ya gotta decide how important ~things~ to you and whether it’s worth it”
You read my mind
Girl I wanna Shake You Down
I can give you all the lovin’ you need–Gregory Abbott
TIL there’s more than one “Greg(ory) Abbott” in the world, and some of them aren’t utterly remorseless monsters
Oh, Leslie, no teacher in this comic will ever be that.
Honestly most of the teachers we’ve met seem pretty detached from the affairs of their students, it’s just that Leslie and Robin have the misfortune of being major characters.
Right, Doc Brock has demonstrated zero interest in forming bonds with his students, for better or worse.
Much for better.
I really want him and Dina to become archenemies.
He had a close bond with a student once, back in 1985. Then the punk stole his Delorean.
Never again.
I like to think he had a DeLorean, but sold it after the movie came out because people wouldn’t stop making references.
Well both professor Alex’s (?) didn’t really care, tbh i think leslie and robin are the only teachers (if you really consider robin a prof) that are actual ‘cahracters’
I keep forgetting she’s like 26.
shit i’m Leslie’s age now i feel old
not that Leslie is old, it’s just that i’ve accomplished approximately jack shit in life
Don’t worry. Leslie thinks the same!
Leslie is my spirit lesbian
i mean, do we really need to ‘accomplish’ anything? should be enough just to be alive, but alas, capitalism has poisoned everyone’s thinking (nothing wrong if you do have a dream to chase after of course, but i think it’s fine as opposed to you actively trying to make the world worse or so)
If you’re not making optimal use of every moment of every day, you’re “quiet quitting” on life.
Slacker.
I actually think accomplishing things is a fundamental drive and most people LIKE to do things that make the world run/be productive. One of the things that frustrates people trying to reform prison labor is due to how crushingly horrifically boring life is (to the point of mental torture), there’s a vast list of volunteers for prison jobs even when they’re paid pennies.
Because at least you’re not just SITTING there.
YES.
As opposed to the good old days before capitalism poisoned everyone’s thinking? And the vast majority of people could have no ambition but trying to scrape by farming a patch of land they couldn’t even own.
Under feudalism, which wasn’t geographically universal nor extant during the entire history of humanity.
Or various empires, which weren’t feudal, but still left vast majorities in dire poverty.
To be fair, one could count hunter-gatherer societies, which did have much more leisure time, but had their own problems.
Mostly, there’s a tendency in some circles to blame capitalism for problems that run much deeper in the human condition.
I’m 64 and most of my accomplishments are surviving shit that most people wouldn’t. And delivering my youngest daughter at home with a compound breech delivery and nobody even had a serious injury, those are not infrequent killers of either the baby, the mother, or both.
Enjoy it while you have it. I’m a few years shy of three times Leslie’s age.
10 years of difference enough to make us fell older, huh?
I’m older than Leslie… I hate this world
I don’t know why, but I always assume she’s about 32.
As someone who was an adjunct from 24-26… it is sometimes hard to remember!
We didn’t bang like crazy raptors on heat or anything, if that’s what you’re not asking…
Well, that’s two people we care enough about to lie by omission.
This reminds me that Becky still holds a bit of shame for banging Dina. Otherwise why lie to her preferred mother figure?
Probably in part that, and in part that this is maybe more of a Robin-style move and thus may make Leslie feel slighted.
How would Leslie feel slighted though? She never said that Becky and Dina couldn’t bang, just that they should talk things out and would eventually come to a solution. Which is exactly what happened. Robin just said it’s okay to make mistakes. If Becky is more relating her experience to Robin’s advice over Leslie’s than it feels like she thinks sex with Dina was a mistake.
She explicitly told Robin they’d made a mistake.
Also, I feel like her refusing to tell Joyce is a way for her to feel superior to Joyce.
i like leslie and all but unless we were the same age and actual friends rather than her being a teacher figure, i wouldn’t have told her either. if anything i’d be more likely to tell joyce
I didn’t even read it this way! I just took it as a “yes we did the talking and did not break up/there was no negative consequences”. With your meep I’m curious to see whether it *is* hiding that smex happened or not.
Remember, adult adoption is a thing! Go ahead and do it, Leslie!
i mean even if she’s technically 18 now? i’d think she’d still be considered a kid/teen being taken in if she needed a place to stay (if anything i’m surprised any 18 year old can move out on their own even with a roommate or two the same age, other than a landlord scamming/taking advantage of someone not yet in their 20s/just starting out, i’d also feel like some places would make you cosign with someone 25-30+ or so as some kinda ‘responsibility’ thing to insure that some young dumb teen doesn’t wreck the place/ruin the other neighbor’s experiences [tho i’ve never lived on my own so idk how hard it is to find an apartment /decent living situation even if you have enough money])
If you have enough money, many things become possible.
What’s happening? It used to be normal for 18 years to move out. Have rents jacked up so much in the US that you are starting to tell people kids should stay with their parents until they are in their twenties?
Some people I know moved into their own tiny flats when they were 16.
Places near me are 900-1200 a month for a 500 square foot studio.
… That’s about what my mortgage costs for double the space.
I paid under a grand for an 800 square foot one-bedroom from 2014-2018.
The fuck.
Nice thing about a mortgage is that you can fix much of the cost, so it doesn’t change when prices spike.
There are also of course vast differences depending on location.
Yup. The only part that changes is property tax, and that’s chump change compared to the principal.
So, do you just not read the news, or are you from someplace else, where things aren’t as incessantly terrible? The rent’s been too damn high for years and years (and years), and it’s not showing any signs of getting any lower. People are broke, landlords are predators, and robots are buying all the houses.
I live in Australia, and my mum moved in with /me/ because of the cost of living. Shit’s fucked.
Haha yes rents have indeed gotten that jacket up. It’s so bad that people are staying with family until they want to start a family and sometimes they stay with their parents even then. (That’s actually completely fine with me and is what I view as more traditional than the nuclear family structure, but it’s still bad because abusive parents exist. You should want the option to move out.)
Yes? It’s almost prohibitively expensive for young adults to live on their own in modern America, and there’s no fucking reason why they should feel like they have to in the first place. Multi-generational households are historically the norm through most of human existence, across all continents and civilizations.
The “moving out at 18 and setting up your own household” thing is very recent, culturally speaking, and it’s kind of an American white person expectation in the first place. It’s a bullshit idea that rose during a weird little bubble of prosperity for a certain class of Americans for a few decades, and it’s rapidly falling out of favor now that that kind of prosperity has vanished and all the money has been sucked back up by the wealthy.
I mean, I’m kind of surprised landlords don’t pull that shit too, but at the same time it would make it even harder for young adults who don’t have parents to fall back on. Like, what would a Becky do if she’d somehow managed to scrape together enough money/roommates for rent but still wasn’t allowed to unless she could get her parents to cosign? Or even some “more adult” adult.
I think generally these days they don’t use age strictly, but they use credit checks, which can amount to the same thing, since near homeless teens don’t really build up good credit scores.
I know back in my late teens and early 20s I rented a bunch of different places without any kind of co-signing. A lot of them were subletting from other young renters – roommates or taking a room over a college break, but some were directly through the landlord. Long time ago now, but I don’t remember that ever coming up directly.
Leslie’s entire body vibrating at a frequency of MY PRECIOUS DAUGHTER PLEASE LET ME LOVE YOUUUUY
Losing everything in life make a huge scar in anybody, but I think Leslie is dealing well…
Fun fact, in the UK teachers can get fired from their entire career without warning for attending the same sports club as a student and the police might get alerted to investigate, just in case!
If that’d been the case here, both Becky and Lesley woulda been screwed :-/
so…if a teacher is a longtime member of a sports club, and one of their students decides to join said club on a whim, the teacher has to quit that club? Is there some other bit of context that I’m missing, because that seems really unfair.
Hmm, I’m unsure about that order tbh! Schools don’t all have the exact same set of rules though, and some are more strict in their interpretations than others.
Uhm… Leslie can easily hear it from the other students because Becky wasn’t extacly subtle that she got laid with Dina.
Yikes. good i am not in Becky’s shoes when Leslie finds out.
“Why did you lie to me? i thought you TRUSTED me? did you think i would kick you out just because you got sex?”
Sure, except none of the other students are talking about it, because they don’t much care, and to the extent that any of them do care, they’re mostly not talking about it in case Joyce finds out.
Also, the Leslie in my head understands why people might not be comfortable discussing certain things in certain circumstances. She’d be a bit hurt, but she wouldn’t take it out on Becky. I accept the Leslie in your head feels differently, and we’ll just have to see which is closer to the Leslie in Willis’s head.
Or in one case, not talking about it in fear of parental retribution if they do.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2022/comic/book-12/04-dont-stop-billie-ving/forbidding/
Yeah you WISH, Leslie. lol
This is incredibly sad. Becky is afraid to tells the truth to one of the women that helped her the most in her life. She’s afraid of her reaction… she don’t trust Leslie at all…she don’t trust herself at all too! Now I want to see if Becky will do the same with Robin.
Or she doesn’t want to tell a mother figure about having sex – because that’s not the kind of thing she thinks you tell mothers.
leslie, you are amazing but out of your many talents, normal boundries is not it