You only need to rewatch it if you have memory issues. If you have good memory, think of it and mentally rewatch it and then actually watch it again just because you love it.
The being, robot or human, likely had to self-identify as a woman in order to qualify.
Considering the question on whether or not the robot(s) may do so because of free will or their programming, things could get rather complicated, and interesting!
Bechdel test is specifically female characters I believe, but I think a non-binary or non-gendered character would be acceptable as a ‘non male subject matter’
Media will pass the Bechdel–Wallace testas long as it features two women “who talk to each other about something other than a man.” So Number Five need only be/not identify as male. It’s a worthwhile consideration, however that the robot in many ways exhibited male characterizations, including calling himself ‘Johnny Five’, and was voiced by a male.
All these points are somewhat moot, as the characters here are talking about the /movie/ not the character in the movie. Now if we want to consider the test in the context of them discussing a movie which likely fails the test, that could fuel a lengthy and enlightening debate. At the very least, TIL Fisher Stevens played an Indian in brown face and has expressed remorse for that. It’s worth noting he had done a significant amount of work to try turn in a performance that was not based on racist stereotypes.
“”Number 5 asserts that his name should now be “Johnny 5” based on the El DeBarge song “Who’s Johnny” which had been playing on the van’s radio. “”
So the name is self determined, but the voice seems to be pre-programmed. However I cannae recall if t’others had different voices.
If we focus just on books, a typical bookstore might only have ~5k books. (not sure, that seems low to me, but maybe they meant a conventional bookstore, instead of a bigbox store). With an uncompressed text-only book being around 1-2 MBytes, that puts a bookstore at 5-10 GB. Now this doesn’t include images, and surely at print quality that would easily blow up the size. But even at 1GB per image and 200 images per book that still only brings us into the TB range. So we’re getting closer but not quite PetaBytes. Finally if we start including other products (because so many bookstores carry everything from blankets and toys to games, dishes and coffeeshops) then yeah, needing to data compress those real world items into printable formats (which we mostly don’t have yet), we’re possibly blowing well past petabytes, depending on the resolution precision of production.
True story, back in the day (like 1970/71, actually), I got into trouble, and then my parents did too. I was told on in Kindergarten by a troublemaker/frenemy for having some tropical disease, even though none of us had any idea what a tropical was, or disease for that matter.
It seems every day I would come to school with a strangely colored tongue, usually black or blackish, sometimes it would look more purpleish. It never seemed to revert back to normal, that my ‘friend’ could tell, because at lunch it would revert to darkness, usually.
teacher (Miss Bromwell, oh man, that’s another story, she was very nice , and not that way either, after all, I was only 6) sent me to Nurse (Nurse Running Deer, not so nice. Now that I’m old, I realize it was because all of us brats called her names because of her name, or worse) and she had to call my mom in.
Long story long, I couldn’t keep out of my usual daily lunch snacks before school, and the black and purple jelly beans would discolor my tongue… of course no one ever noticed the other colors, just the black ones…. I was the only one in my family who would eat them, so I got all I wanted.
Speculating here leads me to disagree. For those who truly want to be stepped on, it’s gotta be frustrating to be able to ‘safeword’ out of something. They aren’t really contemptuous of you. Malaya is just a naturally arrogant contemptuous … that she already exudes the kind of attitude that makes you feel stepped on. Ergo, for those into it, it would seem a natural attractant. If you haven’t seen it, check out Bill Pullman in The Sinner. There’s a character super into being stepped on. It was mild, but too disturbing for me to watch at this place in my life.
That made sense in SP, but here that would require to have actually seen that movie, which came out when she was two and which no human being has thought of since, including the people who made it.
In fairness I didn’t remember it until reading this thread just now. And frankly I’m can’t be entirely sure I’m thinking of the right movie. If it’s the “Stealth” I think it is then it was about an evil AI controlled fighter jet or something.
Also, my bet is Ruth’s favorite is either The Mighty Ducks or somethinf even
Okay that was as much as I could write before a MASSIVE UNCLOSEABLE VIDEO AD popped up on the right side of the screen. I think it might be for jewelry or something? Didn’t catch it for sure. But uh. That’s new and unpleasant.
Partly because of the inaccurate way the game is portrayed, partly because disney used the name for their NHL team in its early years. (The NHL, with a rich history going back decades, gets a team named after a cheezy kids movie nobody will remember 5 years later. Right up there with the glowing Fox puck as a hockey abomination)
I never cared about that movie, but they also made a Mighty Ducks cartoon about anthropomorphic duck aliens from Puckworld who got stranded on Earth and decided to spend their time fighting crime and playing hockey. I don’t know how it holds up as an adult, but it was one of my favorite shows as a kid and a bajillion times more memorable than some real life hockey team or a movie about kids doing sports. I routinely forget that those even exist, but it’s been twenty-five years and I still find myself singing the theme song from Mighty Ducks: The Animated Series at least once a week.
Rich it may be, but it’s also weird af. Mighty Ducks doesn’t bother me. Neither did the Fox glowing puck; that was a neat idea to make the puck more visible when TV’s weren’t great at picking it up.
I’m a real hockey fan,and I tend to spend a bit more time worrying about which UFA my teamight sign or if they’ll manage a suitable deal for a player that’s requested a trade or if we’ll be good enough to make a run at the Cup this year over whether or not a 30-year-old movie accurately portrays the sport. If I want to watch a movie that does, I’ll go watch Miracle.
“Of course Carla likes the movie about the robot.”
Although… I would have gone for Bicentennial Man as her choice, myself. Maybe it hits TOO close to alternate-universe-home, though.
Also, Bicentennial Man (besides being a bad adaptation of a great story) ends up saying that the robot is worthy of being considered a person because (in the bad movie, not the great story) it is capable of love. I suspect Carla would deride this theme.
eh. I’m a fan of Asimov, but I wouldn’t say the original is much better in that regard – a product of its times, perhaps.
The protagonist is finally granted full rights and recognition because he’s willing to die for them … effectively commit suicide for them, even. Like, no. He’s a fully sapient being, he deserves those rights on that basis alone. He doesn’t and shouldn’t have to “earn” them by killing himself.
I’m actually impressed that Ruth knew and remembered that. Also, Billie you are not mysterious or deep. I know you are trying to be more “mature” and stuff but right now you just sound like a twat.
Ruth loved her very much, and isnt over her completely, they were together for a decent amount of time and spent almost all their time together, why wouldn’t Ruth remember the favorite movie of the person she still loves to an extent.
They had a suicide pact for gods sake, that’s about as close as it gets.
Say what you will about the movie that episode completely and totally lacking anything that could be conceived as subject matter, but it did give them the freedom to have some real fun with the host segments.
Or at least unleash a rant about the Pina Colada Song on the world they clearly had stored up for whoever would listen.
Hm. . .My favorite moment of Attack of the Clones. . . .honestly it may actually be Dextar’s Diner. It’s a small moment but I loved the look of the character and how bombastically he got along with Obiwan.
Also note: I LOVE the prequels so I could probably pull up a few other choice scenes. Like I could go on about how much I adored Revenge of the Sith. Attack of the Clones is still one of the worst of the films though.
Rewatches of Revenge remind me just how rough it is, but wow Attack is a bad movie. Rise absolutely commits greater sins (Fuck Rey Palpatine, and the final line of the movie, what the fuck), but I’m unsure if it is in fact a worse movie than Attack.
No no I get it. Rise was the only time where I ever got *mad* at a movie in the theater, and that feeling only got worse and worse as I picked it apart afterward and a rewatch.
But for Revenge. . .well I really appreciated how they showcased Anakin’s arc in the movie. How they paralleled Palpatine and Mace Windu’s words, how Sheev made sure that he was the only one Anakin could turn to to save Padme, and how that if the Jedi and Sith act the same. . .might as well go with the one that can save his wife (allegedly).
It’s a fantastic bit of writing buried under flatly directed performances, though with some great visual body language.
Attack. . . Attack makes me feel like it needed a *single* rewrite or edit to make it into a really solid film. I’m just not sure what that rewrite would have to be.
The one movie that makes me mad is Prometheus. It’s an unsalvageable dreck without a single redeeming feature and the worst thing to ever taint a screen in the history of history. To make it even worse (SOMEHOW), it was marketed as both a sci-fi and an Alien movie, and it is neither.
I have not rewatched Rise because honestly, if I wanted something actively contemptuous of its audience, I’d watch MST3K.
I really do wonder what the prequels would’ve been like if Lucas had someone, ANYONE, who was able to tell him ‘no, George, let’s do this.’ The ideas are functional, but the execution was… not.
Rise of Skywalker sucked because it was a microcosm of what was wrong in the sequel trilogy. They had no solid plan, no overarching story to present, and Abrams was always too worried about setting up mysteries to be the guy who resolved them. Attack of the Clones, on the other hand, at least has a direction it’s moving in.
“So our experiment deviated a bit out of protocol, and is now radiating a goo oopsie of the grey, green, or fluorine variety. …. what, you want to know which of those it is? …. okay, apparently it’s all three at once.”
With the whole timeline thing Ruth and Jennifer probably grew up with the prequels and later the Clone Wars series that was running on CN. Kit Fisto actually featured heavily in it as well as other under used Jedi never really explored in the movies. Hell it gave us Ashoka who is now a fan favorite.
Love it, but it /still/ sticks in my craw how they wronged the elves at Helms Deep and slighted Faramir. The rest of the changes were quite palatable, but there was no dramatic need for either of those changes.
Jurassic Park for me (dinosaur inaccuracy issues aside). Well paced, ground-breaking special effects, great musical score. Oh, and a lawyer gets eaten.
“Your favorite color is orange, you’re ticklish in the underarms, you sing Katy Perry songs in the shower, and you have my name tattooed on your left upper thigh.”
The scene I remember best is where he sees a grasshopper and is jumping around like it, and he lands on it, and says “Reassemble, Ally Sheedy, reassemble.” And then she says, “I know you don’t understand, Short Circuit, but when you’re dead, you’re dead. That’s just the way it is, dead is forever.” Then Short Circuit freaks out. A lot of people don’t take their own morality well.
I actually like the comics and movie being done as different interpretations of the books as I can get a different experience from both but yeah a book to movie would be fantastic
Henry Cavill to play Conan as Henry is Celtic and has black hair so hes good to go
Yeah, having every version be as identical as possible has lost its appeal for me. The last nail in the coffin was The Golden Compass. Great book, great audiobook, good movie, boring TV show.
A fairly straightforward movie adaption of one of the Conan stories would be awesome. They’re mostly very cinematic. Should work well as a plot outline at least.
Instead, they always just take the generic idea of Conan with a not very inspired generic fantasy plot.
Funnily enough it’s the ideas on religion, philosophy and personal growth of Conan The Barbarian and how I can apply those ideas for myself that make it my favourite
And James Earl Jones absolutely killing it with his performance
No she is not. Ref Joe’s smackdown of Walky about shoe ownership and masculinity and while he does want to hangout with guys like Jacob (who wouldn’t) he doesn’t ditch his old, uncool friends like Danny.
Not really. They both have their problems, but they’re not really similar problems. Jennifer’s okay with relationships, for one thing. Nor does Joe do the “secret nerd while pretending to hate nerds” thing.
Jennifer’s got the whole social climber/status deal, which is likely where the anti-nerd attitude comes in. Joe’s got nothing like that.
I don’t think anything will come of this, but did you notice Billie/jennifer has the same favorite movie as ex-congresswoman (and former Leslie parasite) Desanto?
Favorite movie? Do I even HAVE a favorite movie…huuuuuuh… Asterix in Britain? Asterix & Cleopatra? Lucky Luke Go West? I nearly died laughing during Anchorman… Spaceballs? Hot Shots? Down Periscope? Gokaiger VS Gavan? Kamen Rider Heisei Generations Forever?
I have too many I love to have one favourite. List would include Johnny Dangerously, Airplane I, Princess Bride, Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, Holy Grail, Life of Brian, Army of Darkness, Pirates of Penzance, then animated movies Fievel goes West, Princess Mononoke, Totoro, Lion King, Up.
MY favourite movie is Cabin in the Woods, specifically the elevator scene. At least that’s the first I could think of, so there’s probably some truth to it.
I think my answer might have to be Lion King? I don’t know that it is my Singular Favorite Movie Ever, but it is definitely a movie I enjoy greatly with no parts that I would rather skip over to get to the good parts. A movie I could just put on and watch and be happy with that
Nah, more like a broken wheel with a new paint job. She is still addicted to drama even more so than booze, and Ruth is like a brewery.
Maybe the both of them should sign up for WWE or something. If their lives are gonna be complete sadomasochistic wrecks, they might as well be entertaining (I mean, even more so).
Jennifer is probably the only person in the world who like that disaster of a movie. It’s interesting how she is trying to hide that. Carla’s taste in movie is excellent ♡.
Robin likes it, too! (Out here in the real world, there are prequel fans. How much any of them genuinely like AOTC in particular, though, I’d hesitate to guess.)
AOTC is the only one of the prequel trilogy I haven’t been able to watch all the way through. Phantom Menace has its problems, but that’s what The Phantom Edit is for. (I was in its target demographic when it premiered, and there was an indescribable amount of hype surrounding “the first Star Wars film in 15 years”, so topinions are tinted through rose-colored glasses…) ROTS was the one that ‘felt’ the most like it belongs with the original trilogy.
Though to be honest, I think you could probably edit all three movies down into one two-hour “the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker” Vader prequel movie without losing anything important.
As I recall, in the original universe, Ultra Car (AKA Carla) was the one WITH tentacles [of a sort] [using them on Malaya for things normally only seen in Japanese comics]. So it’s a bit amusing seeing Billy having an interest towards tentacles, during a conversation with Carla.
..that’s been my experience with interacting with trolls, actually.. :S
( I don’t like trolls. They’re all coarse, and rough, and irritating. And they get everywhere. )
Not that I’m stating that Spencer is a troll!
Rather, I feel their views are in need of aggressive negotiations. (It’s negotiations with a lightsaber.)
Well, anyway. Enough of that Jedi business. Go back to your drinks. :waves hand:
IMO, for me, Short Circuit was a fairly standard sci-fi “What is he nature of life” story using AI as the means to do so. Short Circule 2 was… probably a mistake; half as good and losing basically the entire chunk of the (human) cast that made the original watchable.
If the SC franchise deserved awards, it was for the STAR robot models that were amazingly well-designed, articulated and operated.
My favorite movie is definitely Resident Evil 2. There are so many good scenes and it just goes. Plus it’s got a fantastic Slipknot song in the credits.
Pro tip, Jennifer: if you have to say the phrase “I’m mysterious”, you’re not mysterious.
It’ll be interesting seeing this group go over the same lesson we had a different group do last semester. Or it’ll immediately get derailed by Jennifer and Ruth squabbling.
Holy shit I just realized I ship Billie and Carla HARD. This exchange is so cute!!! And they’d be a really interesting match–Carla’s self love countering Jennifer’s self hate and their competing versions of narcissism balancing each other out. I desperately want Carla to be allowed to have some sort of storyline action for once. We’ve gotten basically nothing since her feud with Mary, meaning I’m actually pretty sure she literally hasn’t gotten a storyline that wasn’t about a transphobe.
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I mean, if you REALLY like movies, you shouldn’t NEED to rewatch your favourite film bc you’ve already memorized every frame of the DVD/BD/laserdisc
Man, I thought I was gonna beat you today.
*goes to sulk in corner*
There’s still time to beat Bierce, if you can think of a song…
Too late.
You only need to rewatch it if you have memory issues. If you have good memory, think of it and mentally rewatch it and then actually watch it again just because you love it.
Thankfully my favorite movie references a very specific day, so I make it a point to rewatch it on that day every year.
“Devil’s night, my new favorite holiday.”
Leslie’s enough of a nerd that the lesson plan is discarded and the rest of class devoted to talking about Short Circuit 2.
If they are talking about a robot, does that meet the Bechtel test?
Is it a lady robot?
The being, robot or human, likely had to self-identify as a woman in order to qualify.
Considering the question on whether or not the robot(s) may do so because of free will or their programming, things could get rather complicated, and interesting!
I think you mean, “Is it a non-male robot?” The test would be passed
if the robot was non-binary or non-gendered, as well…
True, but the compilation remains whether or not their gender identity is due to programming or free will.
Bechdel test is specifically female characters I believe, but I think a non-binary or non-gendered character would be acceptable as a ‘non male subject matter’
Media will pass the Bechdel–Wallace testas long as it features two women “who talk to each other about something other than a man.” So Number Five need only be/not identify as male. It’s a worthwhile consideration, however that the robot in many ways exhibited male characterizations, including calling himself ‘Johnny Five’, and was voiced by a male.
All these points are somewhat moot, as the characters here are talking about the /movie/ not the character in the movie. Now if we want to consider the test in the context of them discussing a movie which likely fails the test, that could fuel a lengthy and enlightening debate. At the very least, TIL Fisher Stevens played an Indian in brown face and has expressed remorse for that. It’s worth noting he had done a significant amount of work to try turn in a performance that was not based on racist stereotypes.
But in-universe, did Number Five call himself “Johnny Five” and speak like a male out of free will or because of their programming?
“”Number 5 asserts that his name should now be “Johnny 5” based on the El DeBarge song “Who’s Johnny” which had been playing on the van’s radio. “”
So the name is self determined, but the voice seems to be pre-programmed. However I cannae recall if t’others had different voices.
She’s more of a Star Wars nerd, and can quite readily adapt a discussion of Attack of the Clones to a gender studies lesson.
Because Carla will shout it out even if Billie doesn’t want to talk about it.
… wait, that’s not right….
Because Carla will shout it out even if Jennifer doesn’t want to talk about it.
…. no, still not right….
Because Carla will shout it out especially if Jennifer doesn’t want to talk about it.
THERE we go.
Short Circuit 2 IS a little out of date, though.
I mean, a modern bookstore has a LOT more than ‘Megabytes and Megabytes’ of input. Easily a Petabyte, at least.
If we focus just on books, a typical bookstore might only have ~5k books. (not sure, that seems low to me, but maybe they meant a conventional bookstore, instead of a bigbox store). With an uncompressed text-only book being around 1-2 MBytes, that puts a bookstore at 5-10 GB. Now this doesn’t include images, and surely at print quality that would easily blow up the size. But even at 1GB per image and 200 images per book that still only brings us into the TB range. So we’re getting closer but not quite PetaBytes. Finally if we start including other products (because so many bookstores carry everything from blankets and toys to games, dishes and coffeeshops) then yeah, needing to data compress those real world items into printable formats (which we mostly don’t have yet), we’re possibly blowing well past petabytes, depending on the resolution precision of production.
Ugh, Attack of the Clones? Really?
This version’s not bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub9107xWjEk
that’s way more than 54 seconds
Well, that video also includes scenes from RotS.
don’t kinkshame, carla
I would never kinkshame Carla. Unless she liked black licorice or something.
((Joke — I love licorice) )
Grab the pitchforks! Prepare the cannons! Bring out the Allsorts!
True story, back in the day (like 1970/71, actually), I got into trouble, and then my parents did too. I was told on in Kindergarten by a troublemaker/frenemy for having some tropical disease, even though none of us had any idea what a tropical was, or disease for that matter.
It seems every day I would come to school with a strangely colored tongue, usually black or blackish, sometimes it would look more purpleish. It never seemed to revert back to normal, that my ‘friend’ could tell, because at lunch it would revert to darkness, usually.
teacher (Miss Bromwell, oh man, that’s another story, she was very nice , and not that way either, after all, I was only 6) sent me to Nurse (Nurse Running Deer, not so nice. Now that I’m old, I realize it was because all of us brats called her names because of her name, or worse) and she had to call my mom in.
Long story long, I couldn’t keep out of my usual daily lunch snacks before school, and the black and purple jelly beans would discolor my tongue… of course no one ever noticed the other colors, just the black ones…. I was the only one in my family who would eat them, so I got all I wanted.
I kinkshame Carla.
Not because she wants to be stepped on, but because she wants to be stepped on by Malaya.
Speculating here leads me to disagree. For those who truly want to be stepped on, it’s gotta be frustrating to be able to ‘safeword’ out of something. They aren’t really contemptuous of you. Malaya is just a naturally arrogant contemptuous … that she already exudes the kind of attitude that makes you feel stepped on. Ergo, for those into it, it would seem a natural attractant. If you haven’t seen it, check out Bill Pullman in The Sinner. There’s a character super into being stepped on. It was mild, but too disturbing for me to watch at this place in my life.
So you think the Buff Jamaican Squid Monk is hot. I think most people would understand that
And I’m guessing Carla’s least favorite film is Stealth?
That made sense in SP, but here that would require to have actually seen that movie, which came out when she was two and which no human being has thought of since, including the people who made it.
The only thing I remember about Stealth is I think either Jamie Foxx or Will Smith was in it as “the black dude”.
No human has thought of since sounds like an exaggeration. But I can’t be sure.
In fairness I didn’t remember it until reading this thread just now. And frankly I’m can’t be entirely sure I’m thinking of the right movie. If it’s the “Stealth” I think it is then it was about an evil AI controlled fighter jet or something.
“Evil” is kinda a stretch, but yes.
Jamie Foxx. Netflix has been periodically pushing it on me. Still haven’t watched though.
It’s remarkable that someone could build a bomb with Foxx /and/ Biel on board.
I-i mean, we’re thinking about it now.
Can we stop?
Wow. I mean, it is your life, but… Get it together.
… Wow. She really does like Kit Fisto, huh.
Also nice to see that, even if she’s no longer a car-turned-AI, all Car(la)s like the Short Circuit duology best.
Also, my bet is Ruth’s favorite is either The Mighty Ducks or somethinf even
Okay that was as much as I could write before a MASSIVE UNCLOSEABLE VIDEO AD popped up on the right side of the screen. I think it might be for jewelry or something? Didn’t catch it for sure. But uh. That’s new and unpleasant.
More likely the cult classic hockey film Slap Shot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slap_Shot
Totally!
“The Mighty Ducks”
Relevant
Ugg. Real hockey fans abhor the Mighty Ducks.
Partly because of the inaccurate way the game is portrayed, partly because disney used the name for their NHL team in its early years. (The NHL, with a rich history going back decades, gets a team named after a cheezy kids movie nobody will remember 5 years later. Right up there with the glowing Fox puck as a hockey abomination)
I know nothing about hockey and for that matter have never actually watched The Mighty Ducks, so I will cede to superior knowledge!
Also, got the weird corner ad again, it’s a law firm.
If you’re writing this on a phone, may I recommend Brave browser to get rid of those pesky ads?
I never cared about that movie, but they also made a Mighty Ducks cartoon about anthropomorphic duck aliens from Puckworld who got stranded on Earth and decided to spend their time fighting crime and playing hockey. I don’t know how it holds up as an adult, but it was one of my favorite shows as a kid and a bajillion times more memorable than some real life hockey team or a movie about kids doing sports. I routinely forget that those even exist, but it’s been twenty-five years and I still find myself singing the theme song from Mighty Ducks: The Animated Series at least once a week.
They’re all really good fun, with some surprisingly serious elements in them, but the real rules of hockey are, at best, guidelines in them.
“The NHL with a rich history going back decades”
Rich it may be, but it’s also weird af. Mighty Ducks doesn’t bother me. Neither did the Fox glowing puck; that was a neat idea to make the puck more visible when TV’s weren’t great at picking it up.
I’m a real hockey fan,and I tend to spend a bit more time worrying about which UFA my teamight sign or if they’ll manage a suitable deal for a player that’s requested a trade or if we’ll be good enough to make a run at the Cup this year over whether or not a 30-year-old movie accurately portrays the sport. If I want to watch a movie that does, I’ll go watch Miracle.
Nope, Strange Brew.
There we go. Maybe Goon, or someone’s anachronistic bootleg copy of the ’67 Stanley Cup, but there’s lots to choose from.
She calls him “Fit Kissed-O”….
I prefer to think of Short Circuit as an unfinished trilogy.
“Of course Carla likes the movie about the robot.”
Although… I would have gone for Bicentennial Man as her choice, myself. Maybe it hits TOO close to alternate-universe-home, though.
Nah. Carla would want her movie to also be a bit fun and cheesy. Bicentennial Man is probably a bit too serious for her.
Also, Bicentennial Man (besides being a bad adaptation of a great story) ends up saying that the robot is worthy of being considered a person because (in the bad movie, not the great story) it is capable of love. I suspect Carla would deride this theme.
eh. I’m a fan of Asimov, but I wouldn’t say the original is much better in that regard – a product of its times, perhaps.
The protagonist is finally granted full rights and recognition because he’s willing to die for them … effectively commit suicide for them, even. Like, no. He’s a fully sapient being, he deserves those rights on that basis alone. He doesn’t and shouldn’t have to “earn” them by killing himself.
I thought Robin Williams was great in that movie.
I’m actually impressed that Ruth knew and remembered that. Also, Billie you are not mysterious or deep. I know you are trying to be more “mature” and stuff but right now you just sound like a twat.
Ruth loved her very much, and isnt over her completely, they were together for a decent amount of time and spent almost all their time together, why wouldn’t Ruth remember the favorite movie of the person she still loves to an extent.
They had a suicide pact for gods sake, that’s about as close as it gets.
Eh, it’s good blackmail material.
Eh she’s going through that young adult phase where you try to be more grown up but are actually acting fairly immature. Most people grow out of it.
Eh, it’d seem we’ve made a chain.
Eh?
You replied to the wrong post.
No cookie for you. Or soup either.
Watching that annoying robot get beaten nearly to death IS pretty sweet.
“No one understands me. I’m the wind, baby.” — Tom Servo, Mystery Science Theater 3000.
“Call me the breeze….”
van Zant, early 70s.
Nice
Say what you will about the movie that episode completely and totally lacking anything that could be conceived as subject matter, but it did give them the freedom to have some real fun with the host segments.
Or at least unleash a rant about the Pina Colada Song on the world they clearly had stored up for whoever would listen.
The name of the piña colada song was “Escape”.
Literally just here in the comments section looking for someone mentioning Tom Servo. (Also Jennifer, how do MST3K quotes go with your new image?)
Watching/quoting MST3K isn’t nerdy. It’s normal. Everyone does it.
>.>
Hm. . .My favorite moment of Attack of the Clones. . . .honestly it may actually be Dextar’s Diner. It’s a small moment but I loved the look of the character and how bombastically he got along with Obiwan.
Also note: I LOVE the prequels so I could probably pull up a few other choice scenes. Like I could go on about how much I adored Revenge of the Sith. Attack of the Clones is still one of the worst of the films though.
Rewatches of Revenge remind me just how rough it is, but wow Attack is a bad movie. Rise absolutely commits greater sins (Fuck Rey Palpatine, and the final line of the movie, what the fuck), but I’m unsure if it is in fact a worse movie than Attack.
Seriously, I’ve got words for people who want to defend Rise of Skywalker.
No no I get it. Rise was the only time where I ever got *mad* at a movie in the theater, and that feeling only got worse and worse as I picked it apart afterward and a rewatch.
But for Revenge. . .well I really appreciated how they showcased Anakin’s arc in the movie. How they paralleled Palpatine and Mace Windu’s words, how Sheev made sure that he was the only one Anakin could turn to to save Padme, and how that if the Jedi and Sith act the same. . .might as well go with the one that can save his wife (allegedly).
It’s a fantastic bit of writing buried under flatly directed performances, though with some great visual body language.
Attack. . . Attack makes me feel like it needed a *single* rewrite or edit to make it into a really solid film. I’m just not sure what that rewrite would have to be.
The one movie that makes me mad is Prometheus. It’s an unsalvageable dreck without a single redeeming feature and the worst thing to ever taint a screen in the history of history. To make it even worse (SOMEHOW), it was marketed as both a sci-fi and an Alien movie, and it is neither.
I can’t believe that piece of shit got a sequel.
I have not rewatched Rise because honestly, if I wanted something actively contemptuous of its audience, I’d watch MST3K.
I really do wonder what the prequels would’ve been like if Lucas had someone, ANYONE, who was able to tell him ‘no, George, let’s do this.’ The ideas are functional, but the execution was… not.
Same, on both counts.
Rise of Skywalker sucked because it was a microcosm of what was wrong in the sequel trilogy. They had no solid plan, no overarching story to present, and Abrams was always too worried about setting up mysteries to be the guy who resolved them. Attack of the Clones, on the other hand, at least has a direction it’s moving in.
I liked Rise okay but I can respect that.
Oh hey, Jennifer’s an Mystery Science Theater 3000 fan! Monster A-Go-Go is a classic.
“Yes, I made that phone noise.”
‘The most feared word in all of science.’
‘Oops.’
‘Radiation.’
You especially don’t want to hear those words concurrent or consecutive.
“So our experiment deviated a bit out of protocol, and is now radiating a goo oopsie of the grey, green, or fluorine variety. …. what, you want to know which of those it is? …. okay, apparently it’s all three at once.”
Ah, mysterious ways. If only people would stop learning from bad example. Then we would have far less people like “Jennifer” in our lives.
Really glad to see Jennifer still in this class after she walked out last time.
Also interested in the fact that Ruth apparently knows who Kit Fisto is now, how the hell did Jennifer ever talk her into watching that movie?
Jennifer didn’t talk her into watching it. Ruth just found her old fanshrine.
Maybe THAT’S what happened at Halloween.
And then immediately after posting that I remembered they watched it at the birthday party. Oops.
With the whole timeline thing Ruth and Jennifer probably grew up with the prequels and later the Clone Wars series that was running on CN. Kit Fisto actually featured heavily in it as well as other under used Jedi never really explored in the movies. Hell it gave us Ashoka who is now a fan favorite.
While Jen was confessing to the Forest Quad students, one of the things she included was that she had a fanblog for Kit Fisto
Come on, Billie. You don’t know what either of those movies IS.
She may not know what either is, but she doesn’t know what the movies are. The parsing is ambiguous.
I wish there were comment likes so I could like this reply.
It’s a word indicating a choice of options, but that’s not important right now.
Surely you knew I’d see what you did there.
I’ll Be Your Freak-A-Zoid…
I hate to say it, but Billie has…not entirely bad taste in movies.
It’s Star Wars, everyone has seen Star Wars.
it was a WWW reality TV wrestling show with celebrities, right?
Portman hadn’t, before she was cast.
Neither had any of the original cast.
Yeah, but not everyone has the taste to appreciate the BEST Nautolan Jedi, the savior of Mon Calamari, Kit motherloving Fisto.
The Truman Show is a masterpiece
Kit Fisto got a raw deal. Totally jobbed out to Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith.
At least Kit Fisto went down fighting.
Poor Plo Koon, the coolest and best Jedi (or so says my inner kid who fell inlove with his design) got shot in the back by his own troops.
At least he got some cool (though brief) scenes in Attack of the Clones.
Favorite movie? Hmmm…. so hard! Oh, I know!
The Incredibles!
It used to be Fiddler on the Roof, but now it’s the Lord of the Rings trilogy which is so one movie. One long movie, granted.
Same. I love that 12 hour long movie so much.
And with the longest ending ever, so long it is almost it’s own movie.
Love it, but it /still/ sticks in my craw how they wronged the elves at Helms Deep and slighted Faramir. The rest of the changes were quite palatable, but there was no dramatic need for either of those changes.
Jurassic Park for me (dinosaur inaccuracy issues aside). Well paced, ground-breaking special effects, great musical score. Oh, and a lawyer gets eaten.
I must admit that a lawyer being eaten is a powerful argument in favor.
“The good, the bad and the ugly” for me. Great story, great actors and immense director.
What’s Opera, Doc: Elmer Fudd is God and Bugs Bunny dies at the end. Chuck Jones does in six minutes what it took Wagner 16 hours.
And it’s better.
What’s Opera, Doc IS quality entertainment. I question whether it can be considered a movie, but I’ll allow it.
The Lion in Winter.
Brilliant dialogue and cast.
“Your favorite color is orange, you’re ticklish in the underarms, you sing Katy Perry songs in the shower, and you have my name tattooed on your left upper thigh.”
Why is Ruth choosing “Jennifer”‘s favorite movie anyway? I thought they weren’t in a relationship anymore.
Is “Jennifer” just letting Ruth engage in her maladaptive coping mechanisms, or is this just more of her Billie starting to show?
She’s not choosing her favourite. She knows Jennifer’s favourite and stated what it is, while Jennifer didn’t want to say because it’s ‘nerdy’.
Is that so? Then she’s a self-hating nerd, a borderline histrionic, AND a poser. What a mess.
What’s the closest thing to a mulligan for a psychological hand of cards? Cause she totally deserves one.
Ending with a busted straight leaves you with nothing but a high card (at best).
If they’re all the same face, it could still be a flush.
By the way, just who are you describing up there? Some character from a box-office bomb?
It appears to be a flash-slash of Ruth revealing other details about Ms. Billingsworth to Carla.
Is all of that true? Or just bare-faced lies for sole use in Ruth’s maladaptive coping mechanisms?
Our of all those, does she really have a tattoo?
If I am correct in calling it slash, none of it is canon.
Carla desires to become a robot.
Ultra-Car wanted to become a human.
Now they shall combine and become Ultra-Carla.
I just can’t help but think of that episode of Love, Death and Robots…
Kit Fisto is pretty cool, it must be said.
Short Circuit is tagged, but I don’t see him anywhere.
‘He’ (she? they?) is “Number 5”. Short Circuit is the movie.
The scene I remember best is where he sees a grasshopper and is jumping around like it, and he lands on it, and says “Reassemble, Ally Sheedy, reassemble.” And then she says, “I know you don’t understand, Short Circuit, but when you’re dead, you’re dead. That’s just the way it is, dead is forever.” Then Short Circuit freaks out. A lot of people don’t take their own morality well.
Jennifer is COMMITTED okay? I respect that.
Also, it’s really nice to see Jennifer and Carla have a friendly chat after how angry she was at Carla last semester.
Maybe if Carla hadn’t launched a friggin’ ICBM at Iceland, she’d be a little more popular.
Iceland had it coming, okay?
Sometimes you have to nuke Iceland in order to save it.
The fact that nobody my age knows what short circuit is makes me sad. Truly those movies are classics
Got to be Conan The Barbarian 1982 version for me.
Someday they will do the Conan series on film and do it right. I mean, they did with the comic, so how hard could it be?
I actually like the comics and movie being done as different interpretations of the books as I can get a different experience from both but yeah a book to movie would be fantastic
Henry Cavill to play Conan as Henry is Celtic and has black hair so hes good to go
Yeah, having every version be as identical as possible has lost its appeal for me. The last nail in the coffin was The Golden Compass. Great book, great audiobook, good movie, boring TV show.
A fairly straightforward movie adaption of one of the Conan stories would be awesome. They’re mostly very cinematic. Should work well as a plot outline at least.
Instead, they always just take the generic idea of Conan with a not very inspired generic fantasy plot.
Funnily enough it’s the ideas on religion, philosophy and personal growth of Conan The Barbarian and how I can apply those ideas for myself that make it my favourite
And James Earl Jones absolutely killing it with his performance
One of my hobbies is telling hardcore Star Wars fanboys that Attack of the Clones is the best Star Wars movie. Always gets a good reaction.
…okay, I’m genuinely curious why you think it’s the best one.
I would assume they don’t, they’re just saying it to get a rise out of people.
I counter with a “No, Return of the Jedi” is the best Star Wars movie.
Clearly.
Skywalker or nothin’.
Star Wars.. weren’t those the movies about Jar-Jar Binks?
I bet Jedi Master Jar-Jar Binks could have really balanced the Force.
He did. He made Palpatine emporer. Jar Jar Abrams was the most covert sith of all time.
Mocking fanboys should be considered a competition in Olympics…
Well they have surfing as an Olympic sport so mocking fanboys can’t be too far away. I bet it’s a winter sport for 2026.
Sorry, just remembered they have e-sports as a competition, so mocking fanboys is already a medal event.
Wait, she’s a closet nerd but doesn’t really watch much in the way of movies? NEED MORE IMPUT!!!
Jennifer is a closet nerd confirmed. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/stockholm/
Jennifer is in quite a few closets, it seems.
And I’m actually a dumb nerd who for several of my preteen years ran a fanfiction blog dedicated to Kit Fisto
And the next strip after that confirms that she’s a secret nerd.
If Ruth must use Billie/Jennfer Facts to start the latter’s redemption or, I don’t know, just have a buncha comedy for it, I’d be down for either.
…is… Billie kind just female Joe, but behind on character development?
No she is not. Ref Joe’s smackdown of Walky about shoe ownership and masculinity and while he does want to hangout with guys like Jacob (who wouldn’t) he doesn’t ditch his old, uncool friends like Danny.
I think her closest equivalent right now is Asher, honestly
Probably why they hooked up
Not really. They both have their problems, but they’re not really similar problems. Jennifer’s okay with relationships, for one thing. Nor does Joe do the “secret nerd while pretending to hate nerds” thing.
Jennifer’s got the whole social climber/status deal, which is likely where the anti-nerd attitude comes in. Joe’s got nothing like that.
I don’t think anything will come of this, but did you notice Billie/jennifer has the same favorite movie as ex-congresswoman (and former Leslie parasite) Desanto?
I’d guess the link is that Ruth discovered Billie’s love of AOTC and Kit Fisto because Robin made the party guests watch the movie.
The Great Race for sure, here! If nothing else, I can always watch the pie fight and experience a moment of joy.
Wait a sec… I thought billie/jennifer dropped out of this class, when she found out Ruth was taking it.
they both considered it and seem to have both decided to stick with it
Favorite movie? Do I even HAVE a favorite movie…huuuuuuh… Asterix in Britain? Asterix & Cleopatra? Lucky Luke Go West? I nearly died laughing during Anchorman… Spaceballs? Hot Shots? Down Periscope? Gokaiger VS Gavan? Kamen Rider Heisei Generations Forever?
I have too many I love to have one favourite. List would include Johnny Dangerously, Airplane I, Princess Bride, Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, Holy Grail, Life of Brian, Army of Darkness, Pirates of Penzance, then animated movies Fievel goes West, Princess Mononoke, Totoro, Lion King, Up.
Number 2 on the list, after Conan, would have to be a tie between Blazing Saddles and Airplane!
MY favourite movie is Cabin in the Woods, specifically the elevator scene. At least that’s the first I could think of, so there’s probably some truth to it.
Did anyone else’s inboxes also shine a glorious gift upon them just now?
?
I mean how many were lucky enough to get tomorrow’s strip today?!?!
Yeah, it happens every once in a long while.
Retired. Don’t have inboxes.
Is it really your favourite movie if you don’t criticize the hell out of it but still love it all the same?
I think my answer might have to be Lion King? I don’t know that it is my Singular Favorite Movie Ever, but it is definitely a movie I enjoy greatly with no parts that I would rather skip over to get to the good parts. A movie I could just put on and watch and be happy with that
This would be my answer. Can You Feel the Love Tonight was literally our first dance song at my wedding. I will forever love that movie.
Mine is probably still Homeward Bound. But I do love my share of Disney movies.
Isn’t homeward bound (both the original from the 80’s and the 90’s remake and sequal) both owned by disney..?
What isn’t owned by Disney at this point?
(Besides the stuff owned by Comcast, Viacom, and AT&T.)
still owned. So far.
Fixed that for you.
Ruth enjoys humiliating Jennifer by sharing embarrassing facts in public.
It’s a way to try and regain control over her.
Jennifer has evolved, though, Evolved into a higher level of Pokemon.
You don’t have enough badges to train me!
Nah, more like a broken wheel with a new paint job. She is still addicted to drama even more so than booze, and Ruth is like a brewery.
Maybe the both of them should sign up for WWE or something. If their lives are gonna be complete sadomasochistic wrecks, they might as well be entertaining (I mean, even more so).
How do you even come up with these character reads.
Jennifer is probably the only person in the world who like that disaster of a movie. It’s interesting how she is trying to hide that. Carla’s taste in movie is excellent ♡.
Robin likes it, too! (Out here in the real world, there are prequel fans. How much any of them genuinely like AOTC in particular, though, I’d hesitate to guess.)
I don’t like the prequels, but out of all three movies, I do prefer Attack of the Clones.
I like all the movies but I gotta admit, Attack is probably my least favourite.
AOTC is the only one of the prequel trilogy I haven’t been able to watch all the way through. Phantom Menace has its problems, but that’s what The Phantom Edit is for. (I was in its target demographic when it premiered, and there was an indescribable amount of hype surrounding “the first Star Wars film in 15 years”, so topinions are tinted through rose-colored glasses…) ROTS was the one that ‘felt’ the most like it belongs with the original trilogy.
Though to be honest, I think you could probably edit all three movies down into one two-hour “the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker” Vader prequel movie without losing anything important.
So Billie likes a guy with tentacles… how interesting.
As I recall, in the original universe, Ultra Car (AKA Carla) was the one WITH tentacles [of a sort] [using them on Malaya for things normally only seen in Japanese comics]. So it’s a bit amusing seeing Billy having an interest towards tentacles, during a conversation with Carla.
Wait so Carla was like a Robot with tentacles? Double kinky.
How is a car going to throw a pie without tentacles?
Mhm high-fire-rate pie catapults on both sides sounds like a neat alternative.
Wonder if people out there are still making Shortpacked! fan art….
Isn’t DoA ShortPacked fan art?
54 seconds of Kit Fisto? But Youtube puts it at 98 seconds of scenes in total..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub9107xWjEk
So which scenes didn’t she like, then? 😛
Note that everything after the 54 second mark is from Revenge of the Sith
Ah geesh, I suppose it is. Appreciate the heads up! ^.^
[Guess that means she was into all 100% of the tentacle action, then. >.>]
Just remember, Jennifer: You are a nerd, Ruth knows that you’re a nerd and she knows all about your nerdy ways! Posted as a fellow nerd!
Wow. That was Ruthless. 😀 Thank you, and goodnight!
“I’m the wind, baby”…. she’s a MSTie.
That last line is how you know Willis views Jennifer as an antagonist.
The secret is to never be into Star Wars because it’s all boring.
I respectfully disagree.
Well, you lose, because Spencer clearly has the high ground.
You underestimate my power.
Strike them down, and they shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
..that’s been my experience with interacting with trolls, actually.. :S
( I don’t like trolls. They’re all coarse, and rough, and irritating. And they get everywhere. )
Not that I’m stating that Spencer is a troll!
Rather, I feel their views are in need of aggressive negotiations. (It’s negotiations with a lightsaber.)
Well, anyway. Enough of that Jedi business. Go back to your drinks. :waves hand:
Favourite movie: Alien.
The way your avatar is positioned with that blank space on the left keeps tripping me up thinking you’re replying to someone.
It truly IS perfect, isn’t it?
Good choice. Due to this and Aliens Ripley invariably is what I give as my characters last name in video games
The talented Ms. Ripley.
John Ripley for a guy or Ellen Schaefer for a girl
Thank you. I’m now just settling down to watch it and Aliens(DCut) again. Because. I. Can.
I don’t think I’ve seen Short Circuit 2 since 1988 but somehow I remember that Los Locos chant
IMO, for me, Short Circuit was a fairly standard sci-fi “What is he nature of life” story using AI as the means to do so. Short Circule 2 was… probably a mistake; half as good and losing basically the entire chunk of the (human) cast that made the original watchable.
If the SC franchise deserved awards, it was for the STAR robot models that were amazingly well-designed, articulated and operated.
Three Stooges routine. ‘Nuff said.
Kit Fisto is pretty great.
I like how “watch your favorite movie” is the most softball assignment, and yet we’re going to mess it up immediately for reasons of hubris.
My favorite movie is definitely Resident Evil 2. There are so many good scenes and it just goes. Plus it’s got a fantastic Slipknot song in the credits.
Pro tip, Jennifer: if you have to say the phrase “I’m mysterious”, you’re not mysterious.
It’ll be interesting seeing this group go over the same lesson we had a different group do last semester. Or it’ll immediately get derailed by Jennifer and Ruth squabbling.
Right up there with, “I’m not racist, I have an 《ethnicity》 friend”.
Truth be told, Short Circuit 2 is one of my all time favorite movies, I do believe I’ve seen it more times than the entire MCU catalogue put together
You know what mysterious people who are like the wind don’t need to do? Say they are! Jennifer is still pretending she is someone she is not.
See this is why I like Carla. She has great taste in movies, and is fun to be around.
You can tell they’re exes, and i love it
“Service with a smile.”
I can’t believe it! Our meditations have been answered!
Taco Bell made an anime commercial for the 2021 Tokyo Olympics!!!
Did I mention that it was for the nacho fries they were bringing back?
Holy shit I just realized I ship Billie and Carla HARD. This exchange is so cute!!! And they’d be a really interesting match–Carla’s self love countering Jennifer’s self hate and their competing versions of narcissism balancing each other out. I desperately want Carla to be allowed to have some sort of storyline action for once. We’ve gotten basically nothing since her feud with Mary, meaning I’m actually pretty sure she literally hasn’t gotten a storyline that wasn’t about a transphobe.
Does building Joyce’s shower shoes count?
Now I need a Kit Fisto keyword to find the earlier reference.
Right here!
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-10/02-to-remind-you-of-my-love/olympus/
I’ve never seen either Short Circuit movie. However, as a Shortpacked fan, I am glad to finally hear it referenced in DoA.
My favorite film is probably Team StarKid’s The Guy Who Didn’t Like Musicals, which is on Youtube.
This is too specific a thing to have in common with a fictional character and it makes me uncomfortable.