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When a female enters his vicinity with a proportionately thin mid section, yet also a significantly large hip circumference in ratio to said thin midsection he gets sexually aroused!
As a latecomer to DoA I was shocked, absolutely shocked, to learn of an alternate continuity where Joyce and Walky were not only a couple, but had a kid together.
I wanna say this would be like two days later, or more just since I was pretty sure it was day time when they had their make-peace conversation. They definitely both looked like they had slept, just since they’d have been even more haggard, otherwise.
It’s just the next day. We’re informed when there’s a time skip beyond end of the night and the next morning. Plus, two or three days would put us into the weekend.
It was night time when they made up and went out. We saw Sal throw her jacket to the floor after the fight, then she goes to make up with Amber, and they’re both wearing the same clothes they were during the fight when they go to the roller derby place (where members meet at night) and Malaya calls back to their last conversation – “What, you finally came to watch us practice, huh?”.
There’s only one way this ends…everybody except the professor shows up to math class just to see if Mike was trolling them. And yes, everybody includes Jason.
I like that for all their bickering, Walky still considers Joyce someone he can go to with a problem, and Joyce tries to help him. They are nice sorts.
You sure it’s not just that she’s the only who goes to class who also knows how bad things are with his grades who he’s willing to have some kind of conversation with about it (if forced)?
Like he can’t trust Mike, Billie is in the other dorm (to his knowledge), and he’s not ready to stand up and admit to Sal just how bad things are with his grades (though I’m sure she has an idea or can figure it out).
Joyce is the only one he knows who goes to class, is easily accessible, and is “safe”, and that last part is only because she saw his grades from passing his papers to him.
Sure, but there are tons of ways he could have found out without asking any of his class mates. That he goes to Joyce suggest it isn’t that high of a bar. And as for her, she doesn’t slam the door in his faaace, but goes out of her way to help him.
Seconding that Joyce’s top is really cute! Though I thiiiink it’s just a t-shirt? Could be wrong about that.
And yeah, Walky and Joyce have a weird, interesting dynamic! They’re like normal classmates (friends?), except their default form of communication is sass? Like despite appearances they still have a fairly healthy level of trust in each other that’s evident more in their actions than their words, like here.
If Mike wanted to email someone else as well to convince Walky to cut class, Joyce is the logical choice. Also, tricking Joyce into skipping class is totally up Mike’s alley.
But then again it looks like Mike is broken, and it’s more likely he just wanted to get Walky running around the dorm to give him a few minutes of peace
You realize when Joyce finds out is the instant Dorothy finds out and so it’s definitely a good idea to throw her off. …Except you’re a lovable goof and not necessarily the best liar.
“A little bit of Dorothy in my life,
A little bit of Sarah by my side,
A little bit of Joyce is all I need,
A little bit of Asma’s what I see,
A little bit of Amber in the sun,
A little bit of Dina all night long,
A little bit of Mandy, here I am,
A little bit of you makes me your man
Remember the ‘practical joke’ episode of “M*A*S*H”? Best way to mess with someone. Plant an idea in their mind … in this case, the mere possibility of a dummy email … and then let their own imagination run wild with it.
Yeah, I was going to say… I “somehow” haven’t seen this particular episode of a show that ended 11 years before I was born. (Though I have seen some episodes!)
I’m pretty sure that Mike would be proud at how paranoid he’s made his classmates!
I’m also still trying to work out why Walky is so reluctant to admit that he and Amber are basically in the process of becoming an item. It’s nice that he doesn’t want to hurt Dorothy by moving on too quickly but, on the other hand, is it reasonable for her to be offended at all?
This isn’t really relevant to this particular strip, but I’m realizing right now that both Walkerton kids get their intelligence underestimated a lot. That’s interesting to me.
Yeah, but with Sal it’s mostly unjustified by anything she actually does whereas with Walky it’s because he says things like this or claims that only girls own more than one pair of shoes.
Yeah, that’s what makes it interesting. Walky doesn’t like having people expect things from him, so he deliberately cultivates being an immature goof (and to an extent, he really IS an immature goof). This does lead to him being thought of as stupid, which he doesn’t like because he revels in being the honour student who doesn’t have to try and can totally goof off. It’s kind of the opposite problem Sal has, where people have so many things they want her to be that she’s not, and so that leads to her being either totally disregarded or turned on, and a big part of that is the belief she’s stupid (well, that, and asshole ideas about bikers in general, which is often tied into racist and classist ideas (though Sal’s not poor, good luck convincing a lot of people that bikers aren’t stupid and broke).
We’ve got a strong hint at least: When she was late to meet Sal for the dudebro fight because she couldn’t find the mask that Amber had thrown down the stairwell. It’s possible she actually remembered and just couldn’t find it there, but that would be pretty blatant misdirection.
Look, Walky, Joyce, if EVERYONE got sent the email, then only a third of the class (the third that doesn’t check emails) will show up, and the professor won’t mark you down for nonattendance.
This would only be a problem if Mike specifically spoofed emails only to the few people in class that he knew.
Yeah, like this is literally just gaslighting. Lots of pranks tend to fall into that category and it’s why I can’t stand April Fools because my grasp on reality is tenuous enough without people actively sabotaging it.
Oh geez, yeah, same. And since that kind of humor is normalized there are some genuinely nice people who think that stuff’s funny. I don’t usually think too much of it but it’s, uh, ‘fun’ having to play the game of “did this terrible thing actually happen or am I just being pranked”.
All humor must degrade SOMEONE, that’s how it works. The most popular comedians mock themselves, but the slyest ones mock their audience. Mike is one of those sly dogs.
Humour doesn’t have to degrade any real people. To the extent that it is a reaction to someone suffering a loss of dignity (an academically respectable theory o humour) the somebody can be a fictitious character or a public figure who is absent — as is usual in a non-practical joke.
As I understand it, there’s something like $1.3 billion that’s already been agreed to in another deal, though not yet passed. Trump’s threatening a shut down if he’s not given $5 billion, which Pelosi and Schumer very nicely got him to take ownership of in their meeting today. If there’s a shutdown in the next month it’s the Trump shutdown. This also handicaps Republican plans to push anything else through using the threat of funding the government.
Remember, this is all still in this year’s session, with the House still under GOP control. Democratic leverage is pretty minimal.
But yes, it’s very likely that he’ll get the already planned $1.3 billion from the GOP Congress, though his own overreach may put even that at risk.
I’m not sure why that needs to be painted as Democratic capitulation? Do we need to push the “Dems are weak” line constantly? I think they’ve actually done a damn good job these last two years, despite having very little to work with. It’s going to get much more interesting come January, when they have some actual control.
I’m not entirely sure if it’s Dems are weak, or they just failed to adapt to the fact that the Republicans are now playing dirty. It wasn’t that many years ago that, trash as their politics might be, Dems could trust them to honour agreements. This is no longer the case and Schumer, at least, seems to fail to grasp that fact.
From what I understand, it’s like saying “You can’t have any money for soda, but here’s some for drinks.”
For the case in point, the amount of money isn’t really important, the GOP budget increases debt by over a TRILLION, so a billion here or there is meh, and it’s not like Trump gives a fuck anyway. He might as well have asked for a bag of marbles. The point is that he successfully extorted money, which means he will continue to do so for the next 6 years (oh gods, has it really been only 2 years so far?). Literally every time the Dems need to get something through his desk, he’s going to try and extort them, and he’ll succeed.
He’s going to fire up his base by virtue of “the Democrats didn’t want to give me any money, but I got them to hand me over a billion dollars”, and by virtue of that good old magic called “Republican voters are dumb as all fuck”, Democrats are going to be, at the same time, “those evil stonewallers that you need to vote out because they’ll keep siding with whatever boogieman I feel like today over good Americans like you” and “those pushovers that I can do whatever I want with, and do you really want pushovers in charge of this country?”.
And by “got the Democrats to hand over a billion dollars”, you mean, “Managed to get the GOP Congress to hand over a billion dollars while demanding more that I didn’t get”?
Sure, he’ll try to spin it. Some idiots will even believe him.
And yes, when Democrats need to get something through his desk, he’ll extort a price. That’s how it works when someone else controls something you need. There’s no “Democrats are weak” or “failed to adapt”, that’s “This needs to be done and he needs to sign off (and the Senate needs to pass it too)”. It’s reality.
There’s going to be stuff we don’t like in some of those must-pass bills. Especially crammed into the one they need to get through before January, since that’s entirely under GOP control.
But less than there might have been after the way Pelosi and Schumer played him today.
But really, can we at least wait until Democrats control the House and have some power before we decide they’re going to roll over?
“I know what I have to do. I just have to be more accommodating. Offer them everything they want, give in to all of their demands, and then they’ll have to respect me.”
Yeah, I don’t see that at all. Republicans would have gotten a lot more passed if that had been the Democratic attitude.
There are a few Democrats from red states/districts who’ve done some of that, but it’s been far from a general attitude. Even some of those stood up and in some cases paid the price for it.
Yeah, the situation’s a lot more tense with red state Dems, who have to balance party interests with trying to keep their seats, especially because they’re often leaps and bounds better than their opponents.
it would be funny if they released it but it was just a cinema painted on the side of a cliff
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They plan to give the film a worldwide theatrical release in 2026.
do y'all remember when they found all that tf art in Osamu Tezuka's drawer post-mortem because I think about it often
anyway keep chasing your bliss and draw weird shit, god knows we need that right now
Today in #9ChickweedLane I learned that I have to weigh which is worse: the cartoonist already forgetting what this guy looks like one daily strip later, or that, yes, he's actually meant to be an old man, not a victim to an older cartoonist forgetting what young people look like
Like any average American, I’m for universal basic income and abolishing the police. I can’t get on board with these ultra-leftists calling for the universal hive mind, though!
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I've spent the past few days reading through the entire archive of @damnyouwillis.bsky.social's Dumbing of Age and this has been stuck in my head for about 90% of that time.
Everything's fine now, we're good, but I'm a-gonna have to smash the Break Glass In Case Of Paying For An Ambulance Ride thinger i keep in the corner, and *extremely small print* maybe look for You Know What, You Know Exactly What on my NSFW Patreon very soon
Pickin’ butts sounds like a good time for all tho!
who, me???
Remember the rule:
You can pick your friends,
You can pick your butt,
But you can’t pick your friend , Butts.
Or something like that.
He likes big butts and he cannot lie.
You other brothers can’t deny
When a female enters his vicinity with a proportionately thin mid section, yet also a significantly large hip circumference in ratio to said thin midsection he gets sexually aroused!
Dat ‘thicc Dorothy’ butt
Smooth and cool.
Dumbing of Age Book 9: Butt Lineup
Storyline 02 – Butt The Sun Still Shines
And i thought the sun didn’t shine there
The sun doesn’t shine there, but the sun still shines… in the summertime.
Storyline 03 : Everything butt the rain
Something about the rain outlining who our butts are?
Me an’ Butts approve, even if we’re slightly nervous.
i’m not nervous
Dumbing of Age Book 9: Oh, It’s You
Dumbing of Age Book 9: Good, Good
Walky keeps it classy.
clbuttic joke
As long as you’re not picking your butt. That’d be gross.
But that butt, over there, I’d pick that.
i’d pick that ass (and mine out valuable minerals)
Don’t worry, Walky. The majority of US police forces stopped using butt lineups back in the mid ’70s.
NYPD Blue really ruined that for everyone.
Someone always has to be an ass.
“Butt number 5 stabbed my sister.”
I’m glad someone else instantly thought this.
Ayy, I get the hovertext reference today.
I do not, care to explain?
https://youtu.be/ffyKY3Dj5ZE
omg I forgot about that
Ahhh, thank you very much. I now understand.
Still my favorite cold open for that show.
I came to say this too. Obviously much too late.
Walky for the second time in as many months, smooth, real smooth.
Butt maybe, learn to relax?
*tries to remember what act recorded “Don’t Leave Me Behind”*
*suddenly doesn’t care*
I can’t help you with that. But I do know that Spinal Tap recorded “Big Bottom.”
Ah like big butts and ah cannot lie
Somehow I momentarily forgot that Queen recorded “Fat Bottomed Girls.”
For some reason that conjures some marriage between “fat bottom girls” and “uptown girls” in my brain and I can’t think of any other song
“Fat bottom girls, they be livin in a flat butt world”
…huh
If we’re going with songs about butts, I think this one is pretty fitting.
How about “Troglodyte” by the Jimmy Castor Bunch?
(and if I remember correctly, the single release had “The Bertha Butt Boogie” as the flip side)
Oh my god, I forgot about that part.
Joyce is about to find out about Walky and Amber, it seems.
…I’ll heat up some popcorn.
And Walky is about to find out about Amber and Sal…
And then maybe Amber starts freaking out when she hears Walky asking her about computers and falsifying information.
*grabs the McNuggets*
OOOOOHHHH I HAD NOT CONSIDERED THIS ANGLE
I was convinced the last storyline would be reality crashing in on Amber and Walky, but I was wrong.
Sal and Amber are good, but I have a feeling Walky and Amber are about to become not so good
I have a feeling you’re wrong, but it’s certainly a possibility.
Amber’s butt has taken so many lives it must be stopped
That butt wants it that way… … … title of your sex tape.
Said the butt to the chilli “You are… my fire”
the title of my sextape is “butts butts & more butts vol. 69” excuse you
Yup, still ship these two.
I still say they make better antagonistic pseudo-siblings than they ever did a couple.
I do sometimes wonder how DoA Walky and Joyce would be as a couple, but yeah, probably better to not rehash.
it would be a nightmare, are you serious
As a latecomer to DoA I was shocked, absolutely shocked, to learn of an alternate continuity where Joyce and Walky were not only a couple, but had a kid together.
Ha. Round butt. Classic.
I think you meant to say Clbuttic?
Joyce will sense the hanky-panky vibes. And then nothing will be safe from her righteous fury.
Right now, it’s nothing but Garbage vibes, and “guess who I stabbed” vibes
Yeah there will be so many secrets circulating in one room. And Walky sucks at secrets. Can’t wait!
Know who else really sucks at secrets? Joyce.
She’s bad at keeping them but Joyce is pretty perceptive! That, and Walky being a doofus, says she’ll figure it out.
Butts is not here to take about butts?
This is heresy to the next level!
^talk, typo
listen mate sometimes i got shit to do
Gross
yes
In large quantities, yes.
It beats constipation so….
Ohh, I get it
Joyce’s been taking door answering lessons from Sarah, it looks like.
Oh no. He has contracted BUTTS DISEASE
It’s spreading. Eventually it will spread to all the characters in every Willis comic.
And from there into the comments section.
… Thereby saving the real world.
Jeez Walky you were a lot better at playing coy about knowing who she was before you hooked up with her.
Hold up, it’s just the next morning? Did Amber and Sal go to roller derby practice that same night after beating the shit out of each other?
Dang, girls.
I wanna say this would be like two days later, or more just since I was pretty sure it was day time when they had their make-peace conversation. They definitely both looked like they had slept, just since they’d have been even more haggard, otherwise.
That said, I am not 100 percent sure.
It’s just the next day. We’re informed when there’s a time skip beyond end of the night and the next morning. Plus, two or three days would put us into the weekend.
It was night time when they made up and went out. We saw Sal throw her jacket to the floor after the fight, then she goes to make up with Amber, and they’re both wearing the same clothes they were during the fight when they go to the roller derby place (where members meet at night) and Malaya calls back to their last conversation – “What, you finally came to watch us practice, huh?”.
It’s just the next day, Friday the 15th. Classes are scheduled and tonight is movie night in Billie’s new dorm.
*uses all his mental might to try and move the comic forward to his mostest favorite holiday*
Perhaps if he had a hands on experience with said rump he may be able to discern it better.
There’s only one way this ends…everybody except the professor shows up to math class just to see if Mike was trolling them. And yes, everybody includes Jason.
Even Mike, just to fuck with them further.
I like that for all their bickering, Walky still considers Joyce someone he can go to with a problem, and Joyce tries to help him. They are nice sorts.
I also like Joyce’s sweater. Very cute.
You sure it’s not just that she’s the only who goes to class who also knows how bad things are with his grades who he’s willing to have some kind of conversation with about it (if forced)?
Like he can’t trust Mike, Billie is in the other dorm (to his knowledge), and he’s not ready to stand up and admit to Sal just how bad things are with his grades (though I’m sure she has an idea or can figure it out).
Joyce is the only one he knows who goes to class, is easily accessible, and is “safe”, and that last part is only because she saw his grades from passing his papers to him.
Sure, but there are tons of ways he could have found out without asking any of his class mates. That he goes to Joyce suggest it isn’t that high of a bar. And as for her, she doesn’t slam the door in his faaace, but goes out of her way to help him.
Well it’s her class too, so finding out whether Mike wrote that mail is in her interest.
But yes, even so she doesn’t like him, she’s listening.
But the grades aren’t really relevant. They don’t need to come up if he’s just checking to see if they’d heard that class was cancelled.
Seconding that Joyce’s top is really cute! Though I thiiiink it’s just a t-shirt? Could be wrong about that.
And yeah, Walky and Joyce have a weird, interesting dynamic! They’re like normal classmates (friends?), except their default form of communication is sass? Like despite appearances they still have a fairly healthy level of trust in each other that’s evident more in their actions than their words, like here.
They’ve got kind of a bickering sibling thing going on.
If Mike wanted to email someone else as well to convince Walky to cut class, Joyce is the logical choice. Also, tricking Joyce into skipping class is totally up Mike’s alley.
But then again it looks like Mike is broken, and it’s more likely he just wanted to get Walky running around the dorm to give him a few minutes of peace
Either way, Mike has just (intentionally or not) trolled everyone who goes to that math class.
Subtle, dude.
You realize when Joyce finds out is the instant Dorothy finds out and so it’s definitely a good idea to throw her off. …Except you’re a lovable goof and not necessarily the best liar.
So is grouchy Joyce just how she answers the door when it’s Walky or is she still mad that Walky called her out for having a libido?
That certainly factors into her opinion of him
Maybe she finally got her hands on a vibrator and was up all night “discovering herself”.
I think it was the night before she was up late watching porn.
There’s only one way to know for sure: we need a butt lineup ASAP!
Digging that Brooklyn 99 reference!!!
“A little bit of Dorothy in my life,
A little bit of Sarah by my side,
A little bit of Joyce is all I need,
A little bit of Asma’s what I see,
A little bit of Amber in the sun,
A little bit of Dina all night long,
A little bit of Mandy, here I am,
A little bit of you makes me your man
BUTT number FIVE!”
[Polite applause]
I will admit to singing this aloud.
I thank you, and I fully admit it is not one of my best. I blame Willis. There just aren’t enough women in DoA with dactylic names.
Joyce being notably unhappy to see Walky remains weird no matter how justified it is in the dumbiverse.
It was the standard on the other side for YEARS. Maybe they will fight their way through the apocolips here, too.
Who is Amber? What is she
That all our dorks adore her?
Nerdy, smart, and strange is she
And hipster dweebs go for her
Joyce:” Hey Amber this is Walky and Walky this is Amber, you guys probably met before but I think you haven’t been formally introduced yet.”
Walky: “Hello there pretty curvaceous brunette geek girl with the Rosey cheeks that I definitely don’t know, it’s nice to meet you.”
Amber:” Uh like wise alarmingly cute boy that I definitely do not have the urge to cuddle fuck, it’s nice to finally meet your acquaintance.”
Joyce:” What in the- why is my imminent smooch sense going off?”
Thanks, now I’ve got “cuddle fuck” in my search history.
It was the one-buttocked man!
Remember the ‘practical joke’ episode of “M*A*S*H”? Best way to mess with someone. Plant an idea in their mind … in this case, the mere possibility of a dummy email … and then let their own imagination run wild with it.
One of my favorite episodes, but I don’t want to spoil it with quotes for anyone here who somehow hasn’t seen it.
There’s copies on YouTube and the Internet Archive, but the DVDs are cheap and everyone should have them all by now anyway.
Season 11, Episode 4: The Joker is Wild
That episode first aired 36 years ago, btw.
Yeah, I was going to say… I “somehow” haven’t seen this particular episode of a show that ended 11 years before I was born. (Though I have seen some episodes!)
Mike just trolled the entire readership.
I’m pretty sure that Mike would be proud at how paranoid he’s made his classmates!
I’m also still trying to work out why Walky is so reluctant to admit that he and Amber are basically in the process of becoming an item. It’s nice that he doesn’t want to hurt Dorothy by moving on too quickly but, on the other hand, is it reasonable for her to be offended at all?
This is emotions territory. What’s reasonable got to do with it?
Also Joyce is perfectly capable of becoming far more offended on Dorothy’s behalf than Dorothy will ever be.
People knowing about it might mean people judging him for it. The little mouse boy is very much into people not judging him.
Also, Walky feels guilty about moving on so quickly. Even if Dorothy doesn’t begrudge him, he might still feel that way.
He’s a manchild with the emotional maturity of an 8 year old. I’m surprised he isn’t accusing her of having cooties.
Again.
Subtle Walky. Subtle.
Very convincing, Walky.
Joyce is spot on with her observation that if Mike knows enough to spoof one email, he can spoof any number of them.
This isn’t really relevant to this particular strip, but I’m realizing right now that both Walkerton kids get their intelligence underestimated a lot. That’s interesting to me.
Yeah, but with Sal it’s mostly unjustified by anything she actually does whereas with Walky it’s because he says things like this or claims that only girls own more than one pair of shoes.
Yeah, that’s what makes it interesting. Walky doesn’t like having people expect things from him, so he deliberately cultivates being an immature goof (and to an extent, he really IS an immature goof). This does lead to him being thought of as stupid, which he doesn’t like because he revels in being the honour student who doesn’t have to try and can totally goof off. It’s kind of the opposite problem Sal has, where people have so many things they want her to be that she’s not, and so that leads to her being either totally disregarded or turned on, and a big part of that is the belief she’s stupid (well, that, and asshole ideas about bikers in general, which is often tied into racist and classist ideas (though Sal’s not poor, good luck convincing a lot of people that bikers aren’t stupid and broke).
My stereotype of bikers is that they’re all into organised crime and have LOTS of money.
Not to be taken seriously.
Lol he still doesn’t know jack about that bullshit that just went down
Neither does AG.
Amber doesn’t know what goes on in AmaziGirl’s life, but are we sure that AmaziGirl doesn’t know what goes on in Amber’s life?
We’ve got a strong hint at least: When she was late to meet Sal for the dudebro fight because she couldn’t find the mask that Amber had thrown down the stairwell. It’s possible she actually remembered and just couldn’t find it there, but that would be pretty blatant misdirection.
Joyce looks cute!
Joyce is a synonym for cute.
… or, you know, you could just go to class and find out for good
Why do that when you could lie in your bed and play Pokémon?
Because this way you get to check out the pokestops closer to the classroom.
Look, Walky, Joyce, if EVERYONE got sent the email, then only a third of the class (the third that doesn’t check emails) will show up, and the professor won’t mark you down for nonattendance.
This would only be a problem if Mike specifically spoofed emails only to the few people in class that he knew.
…..
…. okay, better check with Amber.
Smooth, Walky. No one will ever know.
No one ever.
Mike’s mindgames are so strong that they self-perpetuate even when he’s not there.
I hate that.
My brother’s last words were “WORTTHHH IIIIT!”
What mike does isn’t cute; it’s gaslighting. It’s to make people doubt the usual tools of veracity.
That’s what Mike wants you to think.
Yeah, like this is literally just gaslighting. Lots of pranks tend to fall into that category and it’s why I can’t stand April Fools because my grasp on reality is tenuous enough without people actively sabotaging it.
Oh geez, yeah, same. And since that kind of humor is normalized there are some genuinely nice people who think that stuff’s funny. I don’t usually think too much of it but it’s, uh, ‘fun’ having to play the game of “did this terrible thing actually happen or am I just being pranked”.
All humor must degrade SOMEONE, that’s how it works. The most popular comedians mock themselves, but the slyest ones mock their audience. Mike is one of those sly dogs.
Well that’s just blatantly untrue.
I’m sorry, are you just here for the comment section? Do you not read the comic itself?
I don’t know about all, but it’s certainly very common.
Mike mostly just picks easy targets. The better forms of humor punch up.
Humour doesn’t have to degrade any real people. To the extent that it is a reaction to someone suffering a loss of dignity (an academically respectable theory o humour) the somebody can be a fictitious character or a public figure who is absent — as is usual in a non-practical joke.
It’s not even an academically respectable theory on humour because it’s obviously untrue.
Wow Walky, way to play it cool
I’m wondering if Amber’s response will be: “With Mike, anything is possible, including him suddenly knowing enough to fool me.”
So, I hear the Democrats battle plan seems to be “capitulate”? This is gonna be a fun 6 years, isn’t it?
Not sure what you’re referring to, but no, it isn’t.
I’m referring to them handing over $1B to Trump for “border security”. It hasn’t happened yet, but that is their stated intention.
Most recent news I’m getting is about them refusing to give any money for the wall. Is the border security money different?
As I understand it, there’s something like $1.3 billion that’s already been agreed to in another deal, though not yet passed. Trump’s threatening a shut down if he’s not given $5 billion, which Pelosi and Schumer very nicely got him to take ownership of in their meeting today. If there’s a shutdown in the next month it’s the Trump shutdown. This also handicaps Republican plans to push anything else through using the threat of funding the government.
Remember, this is all still in this year’s session, with the House still under GOP control. Democratic leverage is pretty minimal.
But yes, it’s very likely that he’ll get the already planned $1.3 billion from the GOP Congress, though his own overreach may put even that at risk.
I’m not sure why that needs to be painted as Democratic capitulation? Do we need to push the “Dems are weak” line constantly? I think they’ve actually done a damn good job these last two years, despite having very little to work with. It’s going to get much more interesting come January, when they have some actual control.
I’m not entirely sure if it’s Dems are weak, or they just failed to adapt to the fact that the Republicans are now playing dirty. It wasn’t that many years ago that, trash as their politics might be, Dems could trust them to honour agreements. This is no longer the case and Schumer, at least, seems to fail to grasp that fact.
From what I understand, it’s like saying “You can’t have any money for soda, but here’s some for drinks.”
For the case in point, the amount of money isn’t really important, the GOP budget increases debt by over a TRILLION, so a billion here or there is meh, and it’s not like Trump gives a fuck anyway. He might as well have asked for a bag of marbles. The point is that he successfully extorted money, which means he will continue to do so for the next 6 years (oh gods, has it really been only 2 years so far?). Literally every time the Dems need to get something through his desk, he’s going to try and extort them, and he’ll succeed.
He’s going to fire up his base by virtue of “the Democrats didn’t want to give me any money, but I got them to hand me over a billion dollars”, and by virtue of that good old magic called “Republican voters are dumb as all fuck”, Democrats are going to be, at the same time, “those evil stonewallers that you need to vote out because they’ll keep siding with whatever boogieman I feel like today over good Americans like you” and “those pushovers that I can do whatever I want with, and do you really want pushovers in charge of this country?”.
And by “got the Democrats to hand over a billion dollars”, you mean, “Managed to get the GOP Congress to hand over a billion dollars while demanding more that I didn’t get”?
Sure, he’ll try to spin it. Some idiots will even believe him.
And yes, when Democrats need to get something through his desk, he’ll extort a price. That’s how it works when someone else controls something you need. There’s no “Democrats are weak” or “failed to adapt”, that’s “This needs to be done and he needs to sign off (and the Senate needs to pass it too)”. It’s reality.
There’s going to be stuff we don’t like in some of those must-pass bills. Especially crammed into the one they need to get through before January, since that’s entirely under GOP control.
But less than there might have been after the way Pelosi and Schumer played him today.
But really, can we at least wait until Democrats control the House and have some power before we decide they’re going to roll over?
Honestly feels like a long time since that HASN’T been the democrat plan.
“I know what I have to do. I just have to be more accommodating. Offer them everything they want, give in to all of their demands, and then they’ll have to respect me.”
Yeah, I don’t see that at all. Republicans would have gotten a lot more passed if that had been the Democratic attitude.
There are a few Democrats from red states/districts who’ve done some of that, but it’s been far from a general attitude. Even some of those stood up and in some cases paid the price for it.
Yeah, the situation’s a lot more tense with red state Dems, who have to balance party interests with trying to keep their seats, especially because they’re often leaps and bounds better than their opponents.
See for example:
Heidi Heitkamp who voted against Kavanaugh and lost her seat.
And Joe Manchin who voted for him and kept his.
Other factors involved of course. Heitkamp likely had a harder race anyway, but still …
The sad thing is that Manchin was STILL much better than his opponent would have been.
TELL ME WHY
I need another pet rock
I get that it’s already happened in a different comic, but still, I am getting powerful “When Harry Met Sally” vibes off these two.
I kind of love how that’s how he was able to tell it was her in the Amazigirl costume
Smooth, Walky. No one suspects a thing.
Walking once again being a smooth criminal executing the perfect crime. No one suspects a thing…
Re: alt text
“Remember me, Eddie? When I killed your brother, I was farting JUST… LIKE… PHRBLPRRHBLRRT!!!”
So apparently Mike just needs to be very depressed to lie well.
I’m pretty sure that a musical number would be required to deduce number 5. XP
walky confirmed for jake. does that make dorothy amy?
I don’t even dislike Walky, but my first thought was still, “Jake Peralta deserves better than this.”