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I can see it, it’s the middle of a dramatic storyline involving the fallout of Joyce and Mike’s breakup over Mike sleeping with Arnold, and we’ll cut to Walky still in a daze from his weeks of partying after being picked up by Beef, who did so for a laugh, after a drunken night due to being put on academic probation, and Walky will sit up and realize “Wait, what I told Paddington made no sense. Teaspoon is the metric one…we probably use Coffeespoons here”
Actually, he was giving him time to think. Walky has had a lot of time to think before this moment. I’m not sure he’s going to take this moment to fight the trend.
Yeah, it’s kind of a silly law. I mean, I understand some of the thoughts that might have been behind it, but still.
One time I was at Target in the check out line, and the lady in front of me just had a bottle of wine, and the kid working the register was trying to flag someone down to approve the sale or whatever, but apparently shit was going down in some other part of the Target because two managers rushed passed on their way somewhere and the kid kept apologizing during the five minutes it took to sell her one item.
then again, up here in canada you can’t buy booze in regular shops, so that would be a non-issue. I don’t think restaurants have any law like that, either – then again, our drinking age is low enough it probably doesn’t come up as much.
on the other hand, there are all manner of *other* stupid liquor laws that make restaurants jump through weird hoops. and then there was the whisky raid a few months ago…
Where I am in Canada, you can actually sell booze in some of the grocery stores, but there are specific checkout aisles to handle it. Haven’t looked into the specific laws to see if it’s a smart serve requirement or an age requirement, but it is still restricted
Isn’t Smart Serve age restricted? I know someone who was going to get it when she turned 18, just for the irony. Or is being 18 a separate requirement from Smart Serve?
It makes a bit more sense for actually working the bar – mixing and serving drinks and all that, than it does for just ringing up bottles in a retail place.
Isn’t ass-9 the ass taht,when it touches other asses, turns them into ass-9 as well, so if one is ever introduced to a large body of asses it could cause the asspocalypse?
Back when I was working at the gas station, the higher ups hired an eighteen year old, and there was this whole thing for a few weeks where he had to have another employee in the station with him at all times in case somebody wanted to buy booze. Eventually they decided it didn’t matter for some reason.
Five milliliters make a Teaspoon
Fifteen equals any Tablespoon around
And Thirty equals what they used to call an Ounce!–Metric Marvels, NBC’s parallel to Schoolhouse Rock
BTW, if you thought the uproar over “New” Coca-Cola was something, the company also tried to replace the Quart bottle with the Half-Liter. You can imagine how well that worked out.
When did they sell Coke in quarts? Also, a quart is just a smidge less than a liter, so a half-liter would be much smaller. No wonder people didn’t like it.
I’ll just go ahead and apologize for the pedantry now.
I know far more than a healthy person should about containers of Coca-Cola products.
In markets the half-liter x 6 is quite a thing. Some Coke products are now in a 1 1/2 L bottle (size approx-I’m not sure cos I never buy them). The 2 L is still there. And for “single serve” the 20 oz.
So it looks like the quart bottle from a few decades ago is not that much a thing. I don’t know even if it’s in the chill case at pizza places anymore. But it didn’t give up without a struggle.
To be fair, Walky’s sort of on the right track. He’s just thinking of the wrong spoon. It’s the tablespoon whose definition is different in Britain and the States. Which is why you should always double-check where your cookbook was published before making anything requiring specific measurements.
Oh, and just in case that wasn’t complex enough, the Australian definition of a tablespoon is different from both of these.
I was under the impression the whole point of cup measures was so long as you used the same cup, the ratio of ingredients would remain, meaning everything should turn out okay?
I guess that Does break down when you get down to ingredients of lesser volume – who’s going to try and measure 1/20th of a cup, or whatever would be roughly equivalent to a teaspoon…
Canadian here. Going by where it was published is insufficient. We may use American tablespoons, but we used Imperial measure for other stuff. Imagine my ire to discover that the cookbook I was working from (which was old, not foreign) used a 946mL quart. (And it was self-published here, so it’s not like you can blame the publisher for changing things.)
Jason I appreciate your effort but you are arguing with Walky, while drunk, this was a lost cause from the very beginning. On the bright side if Jason’s father comes to visit and doesn’t try to kill anyone he can still manage to be “Not the worst parental figure we’ve seen in this comic” which is an admittedly low bar.
Yup! Which is why the youngest recruits have to go 3 years in the ranks before they ever take a drink, and that’s a rule that gets followed all the time, honest!
A friend of mine turned 18 in the US marines while his unit was on exercise in Queensland. The Aussies took him to the pub.
Where he was amazed that the US troops were trying to get laid, but the Australian troops were trying to get into fights. Nate got the impression somehow that in any Australian pub, on any night, any man can pick up if he is wearing neatly pressed pants.
Really? That’s interesting. This side of the pond (Aus) you can enlist at 16 and six months, and everything else (drive, vote, sign contracts, buy booze, cigarettes & guns) is 18. 21 is when you hold a big party, but no other rights are unlocked. Keep thinking they should move the enlistment age to 18 as well as (a) it makes things simple, and (b) if you can’t vote, you shouldn’t be expected to potentially die for your country.
The weird thing is, over here, even though the drinking age is 21, 18 is the age for cigarettes, even though nobody is under the delusion that they’re somehow less dangerous for you. At my CATHOLIC high school, on the big barbecue before graduation day, they were giving them out like cheap cig— oh.
Actually, yeah. They served coffee drinks with breakfast for those people who arrived at school an hour early to do their homework in the mostly-empty cafeteria, with nothing but the hum of the electric lights and the clicking keyboards of your fellow students to serve as ambiance until the more sociable crowd arrived at 7:30 to talk about traffic and news and watch the sunrise from a two-by-two window across the hall.
Twist: the only thing he cannot be budged on is Jason is not permitted to prevent his father from placing his thumb on Jason’s forehead. All other rules are negotiable.
Who drank there anyway? Walky and Dorothy, who both seemed pretty effected, Walky more so.
Danny, but I don’t remember him being as obvious.
Billie, duh.
Was that it? Jacob and Raidah were only there briefly. Roz had left (we know she drinks and probably isn’t a lightweight.) Sal left (but we know she’s a total lightweight.)
Amber didn’t. Sarah, Joyce, Becky, Dina all didn’t. Can’t remember about Ethan.
I think you’re forgetting that Billie was packing a flash of VERY potent booze at that party – that’s what it takes to get her drunk. It’s not that the rest of the cast are lightweights, it’s that they’re contending against some triple-distilled heavyweight champion of booze.
Now I’m imagining boozing as an organized sport. Contestants compete to see who can hold the liquor best, and a panel of judges determines who’s drunker.
It’s a complicated mess that varies by state. For example, in Indiana to sell alcohol in a store you have to be 19 to serve it you have to be 21 and to tend bar you have to be 21 in most circumstances (18 under very specific circumstances); meanwhile here in Ohio you can sell at 18 and serve at 19 but still have to be 21 to tend bar (no exceptions here).
And do you have unemployed people between 16 and 21 that don’t get hired because an employee not being able to sell alcohol is to expensive to the shop owner?
Maybe. But they’re usually replaced with formerly unemployed people over 21 so it all comes out in the wash.
Probably depends on how much of the business depends on the forbidden thing. If you just need to have the bartender (or an older employee) pour/mix the occasional drink, it’s not a big deal.
What’s weirder is that it’s not a US federal law. It varies state by state (or, in my state, county by county). Here, where I live, anyone over 18 can sell or serve alcohol provided their direct supervisor is over 21 and present.
A lot of US liquor-based laws are state-by-state because it’s not within federal jurisdiction (because of the 21st amendment, the one that repealed prohibition). Technically, that also applies to the drinking age, but Congress got around that by making a law that gave states highway money if they set the drinking age to 21. Yes, that seems like a violation of the spirit of the 21st amendment. Yes, there was a Supreme Court case about it. Yes, the federal government won.
Depends – in Ontario, the drinking age is 19 but you can serve it at 18. Presumably because you’re still an adult and can be trusted (theoretically) to be responsible.
God, that law is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. I’m honestly just surprised it isn’t just Indiana. I mean, it made sense that the state that followed Blue Laws banning sale of alcohol on Sundays (until recently apparently), bans the concept of happy hour, used to ban alcohol sales on Election Day (until 2010) and Christmas (until 2015), and doesn’t allow the sale of cold beer except in very select circumstances.,…would also ban the sale of alcohol from “minors”, but no it’s just everywhere apparently.
Figures, 27 years old and I’m still annoyed from all the times I had to call a manager while working retail at 19 because…I might get exposed to evil alcohol? I don’t know.
Well, liquor stores, specifically. You can still get drinks and bars and restaurants, it’s just the state run stores where you go buy your own bottles.
And for all the horrors of state-run anything, I know lots of people in Massachusetts who make runs up to the New Hampshire government liquor store to stock up – the selection is good, the prices are low.
I thought it was Tequila.
If Walky had less than a shot, he’s probably in the same ballpark for tolerance as Sal – though less drunk.
Jason OTOH, might actually give Billie a run for her money, if he’s just downed 4 flasks of Tequila and is still walking and coherent.
I thought that was a joke? Even if its not, it could also be weak tequila (American alcohol is weak in general from what I understand). But you are right, if its regular tequila than it’s probably more that Sal drank more than Walky’s tolerance is weaker – although it probably SHOULD be weaker since Sal drinks more than he does.
I’m not sure what “American alcohol is weak in general” is supposed to refer to. US tequila is generally 80 proof, which is apparently slightly stronger than it’s generally drunk in Mexico. 80 proof is a common baseline for hard alcohol. You can find 100 proof stuff fairly easily and some things much stronger (like 151 rum and Everclear at up to 190.)
If it’s actually tequila I can’t imagine it’s anything less and am somewhat amazed Jason’s functional.
It’s based off things I’ve heard family and friends say. Granted, they weren’t talking about tequila. My apologies if that isn’t correct, I’m not an alcohol person.
I read that sequence as “Sal drinks a beer. 5 minutes later, she’s totally sloshed.”
I suppose it’s possible she pounded back another couple between panels, but she did wind up drunker than Walky is – she wasn’t capable of walking on her own at the end of that sequence.
Generally a shot is considered the equivalent of a beer – though there’s obviously wide variance in the strength of liquor and of beers. A teaspoon is much less than a shot, but I’d guess was probably also exaggeration.
“metric man” is poorly aimed at a Brit – the UK’s adoption of the metric system is at best half-hearted. Speed limits are still miles/hour, and many people (not all) quote their height in feet and inches and weight in stones and pounds.
Britain has “metric martyrs”; people who feel so strongly about selling produce by weights that don’t make sense and nobody under 35 understands that they’re prepared to break the Units of Measurement Regulations 1994 to do it. And are also prepared to send the country into a tailspin of chaos in the possibly-inaccurate belief that this will result in the regulations being repealed. (Whoops, little bit of politics there, my name’s Ben Elton, goodnight!)
25 years ago, at a rather drunk students party, some chemists discussed what the pressure at the bottom of some lake would be. They started to calculate and the Brit and the German cam up with totally different results.
After a confused moment the Brit asked: “Wait, are these pounds by square inch”?
Oh god. Even in America, the only country in the world where we think measuring temperature in Fahrenheit is a good idea, at least our nerds use metric.
I find that there’s little difference between 16 and 17 as it is. 16 and 18 is almost worth mentioning, but not a big deal. If it already takes two degrees to be at all different, why do I need to turn that same temperature difference into 4 degrees?
Honestly, if this led to Jason going back to England, only for Walky to assemble a team to save him from his Father I would not mind. I mean we’ve already had Joyce, Sal, and Amazi-Girl fight a guy with a shotgun on car. But who would go?
Okay Walky would have to be there of course.
Joyce is the comics protagonist so she automatically earns a spot
Sal would probably end up going at the last moment.
But other then those 3, its anybody’s game really.
I don’t blame Jason for not knowing this, because I still live here and I had to look it up, but the UK Government page on Alcohol and Young People says that in some areas servers may only be allowed to serve alcohol in sealed containers.
Which almost has some logic to it, I guess, but if you suspect your servers of sneaking sips of the drinks, I don’t think the main problem is whether they’re old enough to do so.
There is a causative correlation. Social groups with strong moral or ethical pretensions do tend to have stronger ‘rebounds’ in to ultra-weird stuff behind closed doors.
I actually think that might be why drunk driving is such a big deal in the US–every other country permits drinking under adult supervision at around 14 to 16, and the driving age is 18 or something similar. Gives people a chance to be stupid and learn to be a responsible drinker for a few years in relative safety before they get a chance to drive a 2 ton weapon at high speeds. The order of things in the US with respect to the respective ages for driving and drinking are backwards, I think. Nothing makes people want to do something, even to the point of excess, than being told for years that it’s not allowed to them.
Hell, the only reason I don’t drink more than a couple of glasses at any given time is that I a) prefer stronger liquor, and b) come from a family of alcoholics, where alcohol abuse has killed at least two family members that I know of. I am super paranoid of that happening to me, which is probably why I’ve never drank enough to get me more than slightly tipsy.
that and you don’t have decent bus service, so from what I’ve heard people often have no other way of getting home from the bar unless they can afford a cab both ways. :/
I think some states do? But I live in California and here we really don’t. I didn’t get my license until 19 (learning to drive in LA is terrifying so I avoided it as long as I could) and boy was trying to get around a massive pain. I missed classes a few times because the bus just…didn’t show, or showed up very late.
Another reason why drunk driving is a problem in the U.S. is because of the size of the country and the lack of decent public transportation outside of the major coastal cities. Inahc is right about that.
For example, a number of years ago my partner and I took a trip to visit some friends who live in a rural area of the midwest. One night we went out to dinner and we all had a lot to drink. The person driving us home was still fairly buzzed when they got behind the wheel. (Side-note: I am NEVER riding with a drunk driver again – it was scary and next time I’ll make sure there is a designated driver, or volunteer to BE the designated driver! Luckily we made it back to their place okay but NEVER AGAIN.)
However, the restaurant closed “early” by my standards and there was no place open where we could hang out and sober up. There were no busses or trains. There wasn’t even CAB SERVICE. And the restaurant was about a 45-minute drive from my friends’ place, which mean over 2 hours of walking on roads and highways, where it wasn’t exactly safe to walk.
Drunk driving is a big problem in the U.S. but, by the same token, this country doesn’t exactly always provide safe alternative options for many people. And yes, I know the obvious solution is to tell people “just don’t drink then,” but that it not terribly effective for reasons that should be obvious.
I live in a large East Coast city ad there are literally *dozens* of ways I can get home, if I’ve gone out and drunk too much, that don’t involve getting behind the wheel of a car. I can even download an app that offers cheap cab fare to drunk people so that they DON’T try to drive home. But the same isn’t true everywhere in the U.S.
We, as a country, definitely have a messed-up attitude about drinking and also don’t do enough to make sure people don’t drive drunk.
We only look puritanical from the outside. The truth is we’re an entire country of rambunctious college students, fifty percent of whom are stoned off their asses at any given time, being ineffectually reined in by beleaguered authority figures with outmoded opinions on how the Internet should work, all in service of a small group of bigots that we keep voting for because — wait, why do we vote for them again?
Because there is no one else to chose from? Except for Bernie Sanders but he is a FILTHY COMMUNIST, did I get hat right? We have a similar problem in Poland, one political party is full of corrupt thieves and the other corrupt thieves with Right-winged Ideology.
Well, the real problem is that a large enough group of us like the bigotry and another chunk get pissed off when anyone even hints that there might be systemic problems with racism (or sexism or homophobia), so anytime the other group isn’t perfect and loses some support we’re screwed.
There also, previously was a problem with young people just having abysmal voting turnout (in particular, young white people). Therefore old conservatives are often able to turn the tide of voting because they don’t have as much competition at the polls.
I mean I remember in my 20s I was pretty indifferent to politics. I voted in the presidential election, but not in the minor ones. It wasn’t until I was older that I realized just how important every election can be.
Thankfully I think our last election really woke young people up and I hope we see a change in young voter turnout in the next election.
Bernie Sanders is pretty shit at women’s rights, and basically all other rights. If we could graft his economic policy onto someone who has a passing understanding of intersectionality we might actually have a decent politician.
And if we could suck it up and vote for politicians who are “pretty shit at women’s rights” or “pretty shit at economic policy” for Democrats we wouldn’t keep getting stuck with Republicans who are absolutely nightmarish on both counts.
IMHO, a lot of liberals (and yes, I am a liberal) are unwiling to vote for or support any politician who isn’t “perfect.” Don’t get me wrong – I’m a big fan of idealism. But that idealism got us Trump. Neither Clinton nor Sanders were perfect by any means, but (again IMHO) were better alternatives to Trump running the U.S.
(I apologize to any Trump supporters reading this and am not trying to be offensive.)
One thing I noticed about Republicans I know who supported Trump was that they were more willing to “excuse” his scandals than Democrats were with Clinton. Trump and the Trump family in general have an entire history of scandals and “bad behaviour.” (I also say this as a New Yorker who has SEEN what Trump has done to my city.) But his base was willing to ignore that in favour of what he’s said and done that they support. However, every single thing Clinton has done wrong (and yes, Hillary Clinton and the entire Clinton family also have a bad history of scandals and corruption) was completely picked over by Democrats and deemed “unforgiveable.”
Many of the liberals I know didn’t vote at all in the last presidential election because they “couldn’t ethically” vote for Clinton. (I also saw this trend online.) Like, HELLO? YOU are the reason we landed up with Trump!
(I also have MANY THOUGHTS about the rampant sexism and misogyny that contributed to Trump’s win – but I’m starting to get ranty and will leave that particular rant for another day.) 😕
The Clinton’s have some history of scandals and some things that have the appearance of corruption. They’ve also been under a legal microscope for 30 years with every potential misstep being scrutinized by the media and various Congressional investigations with no solid evidence being found. (Evidence of course of how influential and complete their control is. )
Trump’s a crook. Bribery, lawsuits, mob connections, you name it, he’s done it.
Not only the base was willing to ignore it, but the media basically did too – with the exception of a few of the shocking personal things. Even with those though, there have been studies done of the coverage showing the relative coverage during the campaign. The media beat the drum on the email thing constantly, while allegations against Trump showed up and then moved on.
In Australia there’s similar laws, at the Indian Restaurant I work at I’m not allowed to serve customers alcohol until I’m 18, though in practise no one cares as long as I don’t take it out to dining customers myself (getting it out of the fridge or handing it to a customer at the counter is alright)
Y’know, Jason looks so much nicer now that his hair actually has definition instead of looking like it’s glued to his head. Maybe he should get drunk more often?
Ohhh…
“American writes English” error in panel one.
English person would say “…go crawling back.”
Y’awl Americans (and the Irish, for some reason, possibly where it derived from) have this odd way of using “bring” instead of take, and “come” instead of “go” from time to time…
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Jason?
You told Walky.
To think.
thats a no no
Yeah, a second’s not gonna be remotely enough. In fact, I expect a callback in five years where he finally gets it.
our time, or theirs?
I don’t think we should ever expect to see five years of their time.
5 years of their time without timeskips? My children might live to see it. You know, when mankind finally perfects their longevity treatments.
His Webcomic #981 aka Infinite Webcomic contained over 60000 chapters. It was read only once, while members of the audience retired and were replaced by their children or grandchildren.
I can see it, it’s the middle of a dramatic storyline involving the fallout of Joyce and Mike’s breakup over Mike sleeping with Arnold, and we’ll cut to Walky still in a daze from his weeks of partying after being picked up by Beef, who did so for a laugh, after a drunken night due to being put on academic probation, and Walky will sit up and realize “Wait, what I told Paddington made no sense. Teaspoon is the metric one…we probably use Coffeespoons here”
I mean, it’s more saying that a BRITISH person wouldn’t know what a TEAspoon is that is the issue here.
Walky: “Yes, but then I would have to think.”
Actually, he was giving him time to think. Walky has had a lot of time to think before this moment. I’m not sure he’s going to take this moment to fight the trend.
Worse, he told him to rethink. Which implies that he thinks that Walky has already thought it through once.
Lol, both Walky and Dorothy are lightweights
Yes, but can Jason drink Ruth or Billie under the table?
Whoa whoa whoa. You don’t just dive into the final boss fight immediately after knocking out the first enemies in the tutorial level.
No one tells me what to do!
*goes to fight Ganon stright after leaving the plateau*
Obviously you’ve never played Guardian Heroes. (…or in the unlikely case that you have, you never go to the town without fear.)
Billie’s barely pre-drunk at this level. This is more like her everyday baseline.
In Walky’s case it’s apparently genetic, since Sal’s the same way.
hey, booze cooties is a very serious problem. 😛
And yet another great band name.
Yeah. Booze can reduce inhibitions and lead to all sorts of lice-entious behavior.
Beer in mind though, this behaviour flu-ctuates from person to person
Yeah, they might get seriously ticked off!
Thats why he’s sending Walky. He has had his shot(s). So he’s immunized.
Yeah, it’s kind of a silly law. I mean, I understand some of the thoughts that might have been behind it, but still.
One time I was at Target in the check out line, and the lady in front of me just had a bottle of wine, and the kid working the register was trying to flag someone down to approve the sale or whatever, but apparently shit was going down in some other part of the Target because two managers rushed passed on their way somewhere and the kid kept apologizing during the five minutes it took to sell her one item.
huh. that *is* a weird law.
then again, up here in canada you can’t buy booze in regular shops, so that would be a non-issue. I don’t think restaurants have any law like that, either – then again, our drinking age is low enough it probably doesn’t come up as much.
on the other hand, there are all manner of *other* stupid liquor laws that make restaurants jump through weird hoops. and then there was the whisky raid a few months ago…
Canada’s also got laws about how old you have to be to serve alcohol, it’s just that our legal drinking age is lower. 18 or 19, depending.
Where I am in Canada, you can actually sell booze in some of the grocery stores, but there are specific checkout aisles to handle it. Haven’t looked into the specific laws to see if it’s a smart serve requirement or an age requirement, but it is still restricted
Isn’t Smart Serve age restricted? I know someone who was going to get it when she turned 18, just for the irony. Or is being 18 a separate requirement from Smart Serve?
It makes a bit more sense for actually working the bar – mixing and serving drinks and all that, than it does for just ringing up bottles in a retail place.
It’s different state to state. In NY you can sell alcohol at 18 if you’re being supervised by someone 21 or over.
“puritanical hell,” eh
yeah we’re all puritans here
no ass jokes only Jesus
There is no assjoke, only Jeshuaaaaaaaaa!
At the risk of sound assinine, I’m going to have to call you a cheeky bugger.
ass-9? That’s a high level of ass.
Stop complimenting him.
Isn’t ass-9 the ass taht,when it touches other asses, turns them into ass-9 as well, so if one is ever introduced to a large body of asses it could cause the asspocalypse?
Back when I was working at the gas station, the higher ups hired an eighteen year old, and there was this whole thing for a few weeks where he had to have another employee in the station with him at all times in case somebody wanted to buy booze. Eventually they decided it didn’t matter for some reason.
Five milliliters make a Teaspoon
Fifteen equals any Tablespoon around
And Thirty equals what they used to call an Ounce!–Metric Marvels, NBC’s parallel to Schoolhouse Rock
BTW, if you thought the uproar over “New” Coca-Cola was something, the company also tried to replace the Quart bottle with the Half-Liter. You can imagine how well that worked out.
When did they sell Coke in quarts? Also, a quart is just a smidge less than a liter, so a half-liter would be much smaller. No wonder people didn’t like it.
I’ll just go ahead and apologize for the pedantry now.
I know far more than a healthy person should about containers of Coca-Cola products.
In markets the half-liter x 6 is quite a thing. Some Coke products are now in a 1 1/2 L bottle (size approx-I’m not sure cos I never buy them). The 2 L is still there. And for “single serve” the 20 oz.
So it looks like the quart bottle from a few decades ago is not that much a thing. I don’t know even if it’s in the chill case at pizza places anymore. But it didn’t give up without a struggle.
“…It comes in pints?”
I must have been thinking Pint when I said Quart. I guess I wasn’t 100%.
To be fair, Walky’s sort of on the right track. He’s just thinking of the wrong spoon. It’s the tablespoon whose definition is different in Britain and the States. Which is why you should always double-check where your cookbook was published before making anything requiring specific measurements.
Oh, and just in case that wasn’t complex enough, the Australian definition of a tablespoon is different from both of these.
cup sizes vary too. >.<
… both the kitchen and the bra kind actually. ha. standards are great, there are so many to choose from! 😛
I was under the impression the whole point of cup measures was so long as you used the same cup, the ratio of ingredients would remain, meaning everything should turn out okay?
I guess that Does break down when you get down to ingredients of lesser volume – who’s going to try and measure 1/20th of a cup, or whatever would be roughly equivalent to a teaspoon…
Canadian here. Going by where it was published is insufficient. We may use American tablespoons, but we used Imperial measure for other stuff. Imagine my ire to discover that the cookbook I was working from (which was old, not foreign) used a 946mL quart. (And it was self-published here, so it’s not like you can blame the publisher for changing things.)
Jason I appreciate your effort but you are arguing with Walky, while drunk, this was a lost cause from the very beginning. On the bright side if Jason’s father comes to visit and doesn’t try to kill anyone he can still manage to be “Not the worst parental figure we’ve seen in this comic” which is an admittedly low bar.
If he’s anything like his Walkyverse counterpart, we probably shouldn’t count on that.
he only has to do better than blaine toedad and ruth’s grandfather.
Are you keeping up with the reupload of It’s Walky?
He is a cruel and powerful captain of industry. And even worse, he’s English.
Wait, people under 21 can’t even sell or handle alcohol even in US establishments? That’s really nutty.
But we can drive a car at 16, and be enlisted at 18. Fuck my life.
Yup! Which is why the youngest recruits have to go 3 years in the ranks before they ever take a drink, and that’s a rule that gets followed all the time, honest!
A friend of mine turned 18 in the US marines while his unit was on exercise in Queensland. The Aussies took him to the pub.
Where he was amazed that the US troops were trying to get laid, but the Australian troops were trying to get into fights. Nate got the impression somehow that in any Australian pub, on any night, any man can pick up if he is wearing neatly pressed pants.
Really? That’s interesting. This side of the pond (Aus) you can enlist at 16 and six months, and everything else (drive, vote, sign contracts, buy booze, cigarettes & guns) is 18. 21 is when you hold a big party, but no other rights are unlocked. Keep thinking they should move the enlistment age to 18 as well as (a) it makes things simple, and (b) if you can’t vote, you shouldn’t be expected to potentially die for your country.
The weird thing is, over here, even though the drinking age is 21, 18 is the age for cigarettes, even though nobody is under the delusion that they’re somehow less dangerous for you. At my CATHOLIC high school, on the big barbecue before graduation day, they were giving them out like cheap cig— oh.
Coffee, God, and cigarettes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhu2L9MHoj0
Actually, yeah. They served coffee drinks with breakfast for those people who arrived at school an hour early to do their homework in the mostly-empty cafeteria, with nothing but the hum of the electric lights and the clicking keyboards of your fellow students to serve as ambiance until the more sociable crowd arrived at 7:30 to talk about traffic and news and watch the sunrise from a two-by-two window across the hall.
Driving is 17 in most Australian states. Age of consent is 16.
Depends on the nuttiness level of the individual state.
In a shock twist Jasons father is shown to be distant, authoritative but not a complete douche bag…
Twist: the only thing he cannot be budged on is Jason is not permitted to prevent his father from placing his thumb on Jason’s forehead. All other rules are negotiable.
Going by Joyce’s party, most of the cast are lightweights.
I mean, a lot of them are 18/19 and probably haven’t had much to drink before, so eh.
Lightweight or hardened alcoholic. 🙂
Who drank there anyway? Walky and Dorothy, who both seemed pretty effected, Walky more so.
Danny, but I don’t remember him being as obvious.
Billie, duh.
Was that it? Jacob and Raidah were only there briefly. Roz had left (we know she drinks and probably isn’t a lightweight.) Sal left (but we know she’s a total lightweight.)
Amber didn’t. Sarah, Joyce, Becky, Dina all didn’t. Can’t remember about Ethan.
I think you’re forgetting that Billie was packing a flash of VERY potent booze at that party – that’s what it takes to get her drunk. It’s not that the rest of the cast are lightweights, it’s that they’re contending against some triple-distilled heavyweight champion of booze.
Now I’m imagining boozing as an organized sport. Contestants compete to see who can hold the liquor best, and a panel of judges determines who’s drunker.
It’s… it’s not a very safe sport.
Generally you just drink until someone pukes or passes out. No need for judges.
Still a lightweight. Also that is going to be a very long moment.
I remember when I was a waiter (under 21) I could serve drinks, I just couldn’t pour them or open a beer bottle.
It’s a complicated mess that varies by state. For example, in Indiana to sell alcohol in a store you have to be 19 to serve it you have to be 21 and to tend bar you have to be 21 in most circumstances (18 under very specific circumstances); meanwhile here in Ohio you can sell at 18 and serve at 19 but still have to be 21 to tend bar (no exceptions here).
And do you have unemployed people between 16 and 21 that don’t get hired because an employee not being able to sell alcohol is to expensive to the shop owner?
Maybe. But they’re usually replaced with formerly unemployed people over 21 so it all comes out in the wash.
Probably depends on how much of the business depends on the forbidden thing. If you just need to have the bartender (or an older employee) pour/mix the occasional drink, it’s not a big deal.
Completely unrelated to anything in the strip but I was thinking today how I’d like a Joyce and Walky based slipshine and then…
NSFW
You are truly the best.
This is almost too good for words.
That’s a weird law.
It’s also the law in Canada — if you serve booze you’ve gotta be old enough to drink it legally.
‘Course, up here, that means 18 or 19, not *21*.
What’s weirder is that it’s not a US federal law. It varies state by state (or, in my state, county by county). Here, where I live, anyone over 18 can sell or serve alcohol provided their direct supervisor is over 21 and present.
A lot of US liquor-based laws are state-by-state because it’s not within federal jurisdiction (because of the 21st amendment, the one that repealed prohibition). Technically, that also applies to the drinking age, but Congress got around that by making a law that gave states highway money if they set the drinking age to 21. Yes, that seems like a violation of the spirit of the 21st amendment. Yes, there was a Supreme Court case about it. Yes, the federal government won.
Depends – in Ontario, the drinking age is 19 but you can serve it at 18. Presumably because you’re still an adult and can be trusted (theoretically) to be responsible.
God, that law is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. I’m honestly just surprised it isn’t just Indiana. I mean, it made sense that the state that followed Blue Laws banning sale of alcohol on Sundays (until recently apparently), bans the concept of happy hour, used to ban alcohol sales on Election Day (until 2010) and Christmas (until 2015), and doesn’t allow the sale of cold beer except in very select circumstances.,…would also ban the sale of alcohol from “minors”, but no it’s just everywhere apparently.
Figures, 27 years old and I’m still annoyed from all the times I had to call a manager while working retail at 19 because…I might get exposed to evil alcohol? I don’t know.
For as much as we love to scream about freedom, there’s a surprising number of states where liquor is primarily (or only) sold by government-run storefronts. (This ironically includes ‘muh freedom’ states like Alabama, Mississippi, and New Hampshire.)
Well, liquor stores, specifically. You can still get drinks and bars and restaurants, it’s just the state run stores where you go buy your own bottles.
And for all the horrors of state-run anything, I know lots of people in Massachusetts who make runs up to the New Hampshire government liquor store to stock up – the selection is good, the prices are low.
That’s because they don’t charge sales tax.
I’m pretty sure Becky would enjoy being called the “little waitress friend.” It sounds like someone with a laugh track in a sitcom.
Sounds like someone is channelling Questionable Content to me. 🙂
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3337
True… but in my mind, Becky is a bit more similar to another QC cast member…
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1510
Huh… Becky reminds me more of Emily than either Faye, Dora, or Raven.
Telling brits they don’t know what tea-related stuff is must be a great cultural insult
So Walky has the same alcohol tolerance as Sal.
God this is the second time he’s watched a walkerton go from sober to almost immediately drunk.
Nah, Sal can have a beer or two. This is pathetic even by Walkerton standards.
(Although, the idea she had to work up to that is just beautiful).
There is a huge qualitative difference between ‘a beer or two’ and a measure of hard grain alcohol.
Beer is pretty weak though, while I’m assuming what is in that flask is stronger stuff.
I don’t think it is, actually. Walky is way less drunk than Sal was, as is Jason who drank several flasks of it.
I thought it was Tequila.
If Walky had less than a shot, he’s probably in the same ballpark for tolerance as Sal – though less drunk.
Jason OTOH, might actually give Billie a run for her money, if he’s just downed 4 flasks of Tequila and is still walking and coherent.
I thought that was a joke? Even if its not, it could also be weak tequila (American alcohol is weak in general from what I understand). But you are right, if its regular tequila than it’s probably more that Sal drank more than Walky’s tolerance is weaker – although it probably SHOULD be weaker since Sal drinks more than he does.
I’m not sure what “American alcohol is weak in general” is supposed to refer to. US tequila is generally 80 proof, which is apparently slightly stronger than it’s generally drunk in Mexico. 80 proof is a common baseline for hard alcohol. You can find 100 proof stuff fairly easily and some things much stronger (like 151 rum and Everclear at up to 190.)
If it’s actually tequila I can’t imagine it’s anything less and am somewhat amazed Jason’s functional.
Did you know that US proof is different from UK proof?
US 100° proof is 50% alcohol by volume.
UK proof is “if you dampen gunpowder with it, the gunpowder will still burn”.
It’s based off things I’ve heard family and friends say. Granted, they weren’t talking about tequila. My apologies if that isn’t correct, I’m not an alcohol person.
I’d suspect that the total amount of alcohol was about the same. The concentrated version hits harder. Because of higher and faster resorption.
I read that sequence as “Sal drinks a beer. 5 minutes later, she’s totally sloshed.”
I suppose it’s possible she pounded back another couple between panels, but she did wind up drunker than Walky is – she wasn’t capable of walking on her own at the end of that sequence.
Generally a shot is considered the equivalent of a beer – though there’s obviously wide variance in the strength of liquor and of beers. A teaspoon is much less than a shot, but I’d guess was probably also exaggeration.
A lot of the laws about alcohol in this country don’t make much sense.
A lot of the laws in this country don’t make much sense
especially with the current administration
Well, they were in a lot better shape before he broke most of them.
Walky is a lightweight – CONFIRMED
Jason has a hollow leg – CONFIRMED
… That’s not his leg.
Give Sal a beer and ask her about it. She’ll tell you at great length.
And girth.
“metric man” is poorly aimed at a Brit – the UK’s adoption of the metric system is at best half-hearted. Speed limits are still miles/hour, and many people (not all) quote their height in feet and inches and weight in stones and pounds.
Stone is the most common for weight I’ve heard there. Everything is quoted in stones.
Britain has “metric martyrs”; people who feel so strongly about selling produce by weights that don’t make sense and nobody under 35 understands that they’re prepared to break the Units of Measurement Regulations 1994 to do it. And are also prepared to send the country into a tailspin of chaos in the possibly-inaccurate belief that this will result in the regulations being repealed. (Whoops, little bit of politics there, my name’s Ben Elton, goodnight!)
25 years ago, at a rather drunk students party, some chemists discussed what the pressure at the bottom of some lake would be. They started to calculate and the Brit and the German cam up with totally different results.
After a confused moment the Brit asked: “Wait, are these pounds by square inch”?
I
Oh god. Even in America, the only country in the world where we think measuring temperature in Fahrenheit is a good idea, at least our nerds use metric.
Fahrenheit’s more granular degree increments make it easier to use for communicating moderate everyday temperatures with than Celsius.
Celcius’s degrees are only like 80% bigger than Farenheit’s, that’s not that much less granular.
I find that there’s little difference between 16 and 17 as it is. 16 and 18 is almost worth mentioning, but not a big deal. If it already takes two degrees to be at all different, why do I need to turn that same temperature difference into 4 degrees?
well, not all of them. there was that little incident on mars… 🙂
Eh. When i was working at a grocery store you could sell liquor if you were eighteen.
Apropos of nothing, what happened to the old shop:
https://shortpacked.bigcartel.com/
It appears to have been taken over by someone who speaks Indonesian.
Britain only uses metric if forced to. You’re thinking of the Germans, Walky.
Honestly, if this led to Jason going back to England, only for Walky to assemble a team to save him from his Father I would not mind. I mean we’ve already had Joyce, Sal, and Amazi-Girl fight a guy with a shotgun on car. But who would go?
Okay Walky would have to be there of course.
Joyce is the comics protagonist so she automatically earns a spot
Sal would probably end up going at the last moment.
But other then those 3, its anybody’s game really.
I don’t blame Jason for not knowing this, because I still live here and I had to look it up, but the UK Government page on Alcohol and Young People says that in some areas servers may only be allowed to serve alcohol in sealed containers.
Which almost has some logic to it, I guess, but if you suspect your servers of sneaking sips of the drinks, I don’t think the main problem is whether they’re old enough to do so.
Why do you need a law stating that?
Any server drinking from an open container they are supposed to serve to a customer is ususally fired, no?
I’d assume the main issue underpinning the various iterations of the law is underage members of staff serving their, equally underage, peers.
It is puritanical hell indeed O_o It baffles me to no end that a country that’s so uptight and puritan produces so much debauchery.
There is a causative correlation. Social groups with strong moral or ethical pretensions do tend to have stronger ‘rebounds’ in to ultra-weird stuff behind closed doors.
The Forbidden Apple paradox. The more something is forbidden the more people yearn it.
I actually think that might be why drunk driving is such a big deal in the US–every other country permits drinking under adult supervision at around 14 to 16, and the driving age is 18 or something similar. Gives people a chance to be stupid and learn to be a responsible drinker for a few years in relative safety before they get a chance to drive a 2 ton weapon at high speeds. The order of things in the US with respect to the respective ages for driving and drinking are backwards, I think. Nothing makes people want to do something, even to the point of excess, than being told for years that it’s not allowed to them.
Hell, the only reason I don’t drink more than a couple of glasses at any given time is that I a) prefer stronger liquor, and b) come from a family of alcoholics, where alcohol abuse has killed at least two family members that I know of. I am super paranoid of that happening to me, which is probably why I’ve never drank enough to get me more than slightly tipsy.
that and you don’t have decent bus service, so from what I’ve heard people often have no other way of getting home from the bar unless they can afford a cab both ways. :/
I think some states do? But I live in California and here we really don’t. I didn’t get my license until 19 (learning to drive in LA is terrifying so I avoided it as long as I could) and boy was trying to get around a massive pain. I missed classes a few times because the bus just…didn’t show, or showed up very late.
Another reason why drunk driving is a problem in the U.S. is because of the size of the country and the lack of decent public transportation outside of the major coastal cities. Inahc is right about that.
For example, a number of years ago my partner and I took a trip to visit some friends who live in a rural area of the midwest. One night we went out to dinner and we all had a lot to drink. The person driving us home was still fairly buzzed when they got behind the wheel. (Side-note: I am NEVER riding with a drunk driver again – it was scary and next time I’ll make sure there is a designated driver, or volunteer to BE the designated driver! Luckily we made it back to their place okay but NEVER AGAIN.)
However, the restaurant closed “early” by my standards and there was no place open where we could hang out and sober up. There were no busses or trains. There wasn’t even CAB SERVICE. And the restaurant was about a 45-minute drive from my friends’ place, which mean over 2 hours of walking on roads and highways, where it wasn’t exactly safe to walk.
Drunk driving is a big problem in the U.S. but, by the same token, this country doesn’t exactly always provide safe alternative options for many people. And yes, I know the obvious solution is to tell people “just don’t drink then,” but that it not terribly effective for reasons that should be obvious.
I live in a large East Coast city ad there are literally *dozens* of ways I can get home, if I’ve gone out and drunk too much, that don’t involve getting behind the wheel of a car. I can even download an app that offers cheap cab fare to drunk people so that they DON’T try to drive home. But the same isn’t true everywhere in the U.S.
We, as a country, definitely have a messed-up attitude about drinking and also don’t do enough to make sure people don’t drive drunk.
We only look puritanical from the outside. The truth is we’re an entire country of rambunctious college students, fifty percent of whom are stoned off their asses at any given time, being ineffectually reined in by beleaguered authority figures with outmoded opinions on how the Internet should work, all in service of a small group of bigots that we keep voting for because — wait, why do we vote for them again?
Because there is no one else to chose from? Except for Bernie Sanders but he is a FILTHY COMMUNIST, did I get hat right? We have a similar problem in Poland, one political party is full of corrupt thieves and the other corrupt thieves with Right-winged Ideology.
Well, the real problem is that a large enough group of us like the bigotry and another chunk get pissed off when anyone even hints that there might be systemic problems with racism (or sexism or homophobia), so anytime the other group isn’t perfect and loses some support we’re screwed.
Ah yes the Purity culture, sweet, idealistic and utterly useless in our world of imperfect people…
There also, previously was a problem with young people just having abysmal voting turnout (in particular, young white people). Therefore old conservatives are often able to turn the tide of voting because they don’t have as much competition at the polls.
I mean I remember in my 20s I was pretty indifferent to politics. I voted in the presidential election, but not in the minor ones. It wasn’t until I was older that I realized just how important every election can be.
Thankfully I think our last election really woke young people up and I hope we see a change in young voter turnout in the next election.
Bernie Sanders is pretty shit at women’s rights, and basically all other rights. If we could graft his economic policy onto someone who has a passing understanding of intersectionality we might actually have a decent politician.
And if we could suck it up and vote for politicians who are “pretty shit at women’s rights” or “pretty shit at economic policy” for Democrats we wouldn’t keep getting stuck with Republicans who are absolutely nightmarish on both counts.
IMHO, a lot of liberals (and yes, I am a liberal) are unwiling to vote for or support any politician who isn’t “perfect.” Don’t get me wrong – I’m a big fan of idealism. But that idealism got us Trump. Neither Clinton nor Sanders were perfect by any means, but (again IMHO) were better alternatives to Trump running the U.S.
(I apologize to any Trump supporters reading this and am not trying to be offensive.)
One thing I noticed about Republicans I know who supported Trump was that they were more willing to “excuse” his scandals than Democrats were with Clinton. Trump and the Trump family in general have an entire history of scandals and “bad behaviour.” (I also say this as a New Yorker who has SEEN what Trump has done to my city.) But his base was willing to ignore that in favour of what he’s said and done that they support. However, every single thing Clinton has done wrong (and yes, Hillary Clinton and the entire Clinton family also have a bad history of scandals and corruption) was completely picked over by Democrats and deemed “unforgiveable.”
Many of the liberals I know didn’t vote at all in the last presidential election because they “couldn’t ethically” vote for Clinton. (I also saw this trend online.) Like, HELLO? YOU are the reason we landed up with Trump!
(I also have MANY THOUGHTS about the rampant sexism and misogyny that contributed to Trump’s win – but I’m starting to get ranty and will leave that particular rant for another day.) 😕
You can think Clinton has problems and still vote for her in the general election. That’s what primaries are for.
That and the electoral college. Clinton DID win the popular vote.
The Clinton’s have some history of scandals and some things that have the appearance of corruption. They’ve also been under a legal microscope for 30 years with every potential misstep being scrutinized by the media and various Congressional investigations with no solid evidence being found. (Evidence of course of how influential and complete their control is. )
Trump’s a crook. Bribery, lawsuits, mob connections, you name it, he’s done it.
Not only the base was willing to ignore it, but the media basically did too – with the exception of a few of the shocking personal things. Even with those though, there have been studies done of the coverage showing the relative coverage during the campaign. The media beat the drum on the email thing constantly, while allegations against Trump showed up and then moved on.
In Australia there’s similar laws, at the Indian Restaurant I work at I’m not allowed to serve customers alcohol until I’m 18, though in practise no one cares as long as I don’t take it out to dining customers myself (getting it out of the fridge or handing it to a customer at the counter is alright)
The booze cooties thing is SO relatable you dont even know
As soon as I read panel one, The Rolling Stones started playing in my head!
Don’t you stereotype me! Only I can stereotype me!
In Missouri, I think the law is for under age 18. So 18-20 year old cashiers can still scan it.
Y’know, Jason looks so much nicer now that his hair actually has definition instead of looking like it’s glued to his head. Maybe he should get drunk more often?
I’m pretty sure this isn’t a thing in Mass… I know eighteen-year-olds can work liquor store counters.
So there’s a toe-dad, and… a thumb-dad now?
Wisconsin rule is 18 to deliver it to a table.
I feel Jason on this. I still live with my parents, and while they’re good people, it’s getting to that point.
Ohhh…
“American writes English” error in panel one.
English person would say “…go crawling back.”
Y’awl Americans (and the Irish, for some reason, possibly where it derived from) have this odd way of using “bring” instead of take, and “come” instead of “go” from time to time…
I love the tea reference