I keep thinking of The State, Episode 301, where the cast plan to go to the zoo “to watch monkeys do it”. Sorry for not linking to a video. Paramount has that sucker locked down.
If Becky’s belief of wearing a suit = male presenting = ‘liking men’ is taken at face value the solution to Becky’s problem is simple. Also wear a suit at the same time. Then it’d be gay so still queer just all the way around. This is the one true solution. I say this with no ulterior motives whatsoever.
Give it time, but yeah, you’re very correct to bring that factor up. It’s sometimes easy to forget that her beginning was as fundamentalist as Joyce’s was, and she carries a lot of baggage from that, too, same as she does. It’s just different in some ways in how it manifests, and one of them she’s still got is a lot of ideas of gender norms.
It’s really cool we’re getting to watch her deal with it – she’s basically convinced herself there’s nothing to deprogram herself from. I don’t mean her religion. It’s rather than there’s nothing more dangerous for the soul as going “yep, I’ve learned everything there is”, and she comes from such a small world…
she thinks that “different gender presentation on behalf of her partner” = “losing queer-points” like it’s a one-dimensional deal or the Vegan Police from Scott Pilgrim or some shit
was her gender-studies class ineffective, or is her indoctrination just THAT persistent? :0
Literally. It’s also pretty fuckin hard to break out of indoctrination. She’s had a few months to try and undo 18 years of cult… we could cut her a lil slack here on the gender presentation stuff. Wrestling with it is how we learn things.
The thing is that it’s not her fundie brain that’s fucking her up here. It’s the fact that she’s having the thing she CHALLENGES the fundie brain with fucked with.
Fundie brain is “You’re a woman and meant to be attracted to a man.”
Resistance brain is, “You are attracted to women and that is how God made you.”
It’s now, “It’s not so simple as that.” That is messing with her Resistance brain.
I think people are talking more about the structure of the fundie brain, which is still in place even in her “resistance brain” thoughts. There’s that fundie brain strictness going: Things must be ABSOLUTE. Questioning things is a THREAT.
One thing explained to me about autism was that they tended to have more black and white views of things. A neurotypical brain will often justify things that they’d normally think was absolutely wrong versus right when it beneifted them.
It made me think fundamentalists were neurotypical because they always find a way to justify things they want while Becky has a view of things being good or evil and sticking to it.
I don’t think that’s…right. Honestly, the bringing in autism and neurotypical as an analogy makes me really uncomfortable, so I’m going to skip over that part, but I think aspects of black and white thinking are major in fundamentalism. It might be applied differently than you’re thinking– not always “This action is bad, so it’s bad when anyone does is” but “This person is good, so everything they do is good” (for leaders, a lot). Fundamentalists as individuals also *don’t* always find a way to justify things they want. As an organization, that’s probably different, but it’s also a different meaning of “wanting.”
I do hope that part of Becky’s coping mechanism is to try out saying something as farce, so she won’t be as afraid to examine it with nuance later. Like exposure therapy. That she’s completely in control of.
I mean…18 years vs a couple of weeks. Hell they might not have even gotten to the intersection of gender presentation and sexuality in the curriculum yet
I feel like Becky has some really odd brainworms here and is using what she’s learning to reinforce them rather than build an understanding of queerness that would let her beat them.
I mean Becky was raised with really strict ideas of sexuality and gender. And even through she rejected the content of that framework, the framework itself is still deeply embedded in her brain. When you’re raised with ideas of “all women must be ladylike and are attracted to big strong manly men”, and narrowly escaped the very real threat of conversion therapy, the idea of sexuality being fluid would be terrifying. She still hasn’t seen much of the wider queer community, idk if she knows about Butch4butch. Either way she probably thinks of finding any masculinity attractive with this new context as conceding ground to her old community. She’s got brainworms that we’re implanted there that have been slowly getting pulled out with outside help, and I think she needs a few long one on ones with Leslie to kill these ones in particular
Hm, thinking now of those 1940s cabaret singers wearing a suit jacket, tie, top hat, and matching short-shorts, with heels and silk stockings. Wonder what that was about?
In reply to Duck and Dante at top of thread (no idea where this is gonna end up):
Yup. Very much so.
I own some (cheap) male dress shirts that are used exclusively for sexual purposes as though they were lingerie. Thrown on a blazer for full effect.
LOL well nothing wrong with wearing what you want but i’d hope becky doesn’t panic too much. or come off as over compensating like “ok but the tie has to be the lesbian flag colors” or so lol (although been a while since they went shopping together. that said you could easily have some kinda pantsuit/female office wear or some kinda ‘oversized’/slightly loose unbuttoned blazer with no shirt underneath [depending on how comfortable you feel with it] that’d def give off an appealing look)
Becky’s obviously being silly, but it makes sense when you think about all of the ordeals she’s had to go through due to the world’s resistance to her being a lesbian.
Yes, bi/pan lesbians exist, but that one’s A. a point of contention in the wlw community that I already made my stance on pretty clear with the “exist” part, and B. something she probably doesn’t know a ton about, though I mean, she is at least gets that Ruth and Jennifer are bi and thought Joyce was being silly when she was hung up on that.
In any case, I hope she can talk to someone about this who may be experienced on the topic, though it’s tough enough as it is, her making queer friends in general, it’d seem.
Inb4 you get assholes trying to refute your second paragraph, a note to them: policing other people’s queer experiences, just because they don’t match *your* understanding, will never be progressive. If someone uses a harmless label that you don’t like, that just means *you* don’t have to use that label for yourself. Some people have complicated relationships to their gender and/or sexuality and/or romantic orientation, and that’s cool. Humans are so cool!
Aye. Becky had to throw out a lot of crap that she grew up with, or rethink how it applies to her, in order to be happy with herself.
Her actions are silly, and Carla’s understated joke in the end (is she feeling alright?) is exactly how I’m seeing this, but I 100% get her anxiety over it all. This is shit that she doesn’t want to have to question or confront, if only just because she’s been through way too much as it is right now.
I do like Dina’s comment, too, because it’s a good way to try to isolate what Becky’s concern is. She’s trying to figure out “is Becky concerned about not actually being a lesbian, or is she concerned about losing me?” and… well, sure sounds like she got an answer there :D.
I have a cousin who has The Office as a personality trait. She had quotes from The Office incorporated into her wedding ceremony. Which was a heterosexual event.
So, I kind of get it, but I’m also a fan of letting people like things. But I do know at times my cousin has had moments of judging people for really liking things that are less mainstream, as do some other fans of mainstream things, so there’s judgment all around.
I’m thinking Dina in a three piece John Wick suit. Dapper and dangerous. That’s her. (Thinking of Homestar Runner’s Halloween specials, where the characters all dressed up in various pop culture/historical costumes. Would love to see Willis try something along those lines. Maybe spawn a new line of magnets or something?)
I didn’t even read the alt text til your comment, so thank you.
Also – hell yeah! I’d be all about seeing those four trapped in an elevator while Becky has a fluidity breakdown.
Oh my gods! I was so thrilled during the finale of Lower Decks that it gave us the Garak/Bashir couple arc that the network forbade during the original DS9!
I have known a number of gay people that swear by eating at Chick Fil A; even going out of their way to declare that they don’t care *what* the company is affiliated with, so long as they continue to make food as delicious as it (Chick Fil A) is, they will keep eating there.
I’ve never eaten there, and will continue not to do so, but even if there weren’t the ethical issues there are, I feel like I wouldn’t get food from there because the lines are always so long. It’s annoying to be near when I’m stopping at a strip mall or the food court. It’s hard to believe the food is good enough to justify the line, let alone the moral compromise.
Also, I’m a vegetarian, so that does limit what I could enjoy from them.
I was all set to disagree until you said you were a vegetarian. That is a bit of a deal killer. I’ve had maybe three of their sandwiches in the last seven years, and that was overpriced at a huge event, but they were damn good.
I’m always surprised to learn about queer people or other oppressed groups who support awful bigoted enterprises with their money. Like yeah there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism and all, but surely there’s a FEW things we can give up for the sake of NOT furthering human suffering?
is giving up fucking fried chicken THAT hard that you’ll give money to the forced conversion therapy camps?
ethical buying is complicated (by design), but sometimes it really is a 1 to 1 you’re directly financing the bigotry machine and it would be so easy not to do that! you don’t need homophobia chicken to live just like you don’t need chocolate harvested and packaged by enslaved children.
You’ve got to wonder where someone like that draws the line. If they made a delicious enough sandwich out of gay people who died of suicide would it still be worth it? Once you decide good fast food in your mouth is more important than not sponsoring a hate group where’s the limit?
I’d argue just learn to cook for yourself. There’s detailed chick-fil-a recipes online.
Chic-fil-a’s secret ingredients are grease and salt. I find it hard to believe that no other fast food restaurants have managed to make chicken that’s greasy and salty enough.
I think that denying yourself good food as a LGBTA person hurts the LGBTA person more than it helps Chik Fillet. Then again, I have queer nieces who love it and I hate it.
Before I 1) recognized myself as queer, and 2) knew how awful they are, I burned myself out on the Homophobic Chicken by eating it for lunch every single day of college for like 3 years “straight.” I’m relieved, because a lot of my queer friends get tempted by it from time to time, and it just makes me think of freshman angst and that time a honey mustard packet exploded inside my purse, lmao
I haven’t ate at Chick-Fil-A in years, not just because they’re homophobic, but also because their chicken sandwiches aren’t that good. Other fast food places have chicken that’s better, at least in my area.
It gives me massive indigestion. (We get it for work events sometimes despite my complaints. I got a heads up to bring my own lunch for an event this week because it’s being catered.)
Wendy’s is better for 1 sandwich, KFC for a bucket of fried chicken.
But I’m in upstate New York, I can go to Local Wings Place which is nicer than either. New York has lots of local food joints all over. Such privilege.
To my taste, the food is not that great; it’s typical chicken restaurant fare. The waffle fries are a pleasant gimmick, but easily given up. I’ve other options and give them my money.
ah. i see becky has yet to encounter the fantastic world of butch4butch lesbians… you’ll get there baby girl, don’t worry. there are ways of being a lesbian you haven’t even thought of yet
As a queer who rather likes The Office and admittedly used to eat quite a bit of CFA (I’d still totally go for a sandwich) and married a straight person. Crap.
True, but “even if I’m secure in my girliness, I would be willing to alter my gender presentation to meet your needs” doesn’t sound much better. If it’s all just for fun and she thinks it could be interesting, that’s cool! But any time you feel like changing yourself *just* to please a partner, it can easily turn toxic. Not necessarily because your partner is toxic, but because “I’ll change anything about myself if it means staying in this relationship” is a harmful mindset.
Again: not saying that’s what is or would be happening here. Just that, if someone catches themself thinking this way IRL, they should maybe see that as a red flag in their thought patterns. (I know that *should* be common knowledge, but I know too many people who were raised to think that mindset is okay or even romantic. Evangelicals are wild.)
Yeah but some people just don’t care very much. In this strip (and a couple others) Dina gives me the impression of cis by default without being particularly attached to it. Doesn’t really care about other folks genders, has hers because wanting to change it would require caring about it more than she does. She dresses like a nerd and has a female body, but nothing in the way she presents is particularly feminine except her hair.
If you genuinely don’t really care about your gender presentation, this is probably a pretty easy assurance to give. Your partner is valuable to you. Your gender presentation is who cares. Easy trade.
Actually, Dina could be correct on this one. If she is agender or some other brand of nonbinary, she might legitimately be okay with presenting as a man/more masculinely.
On the other hand, she could simply be unaware of the dysphoria that that would cause, or her offer might be more in the realm of “I’d dress more butch if you wanted me to” or maybe even “if you found it hot.”
I’m reading it less as a super-sincere offer (although I wager Dina would try, because she’s wonderful), and more trying to figure out where Becky’s mind is right now, what the core of her concern is.
well, when she went to that ‘questioning’ group that ethan/joyce was also at , she said she was ‘unconcerned’ so i don’t think wearing ‘masculine ‘ clothing is too big of a deal as opposed to immediately taking hormones
Question for anyone who’s up for answering it: is Becky’s fear here a commonly-experienced thing? That the identity you fought for would start to drift on you?
I ask because I can see it being a pretty unique fear to Becky’s unique psyche and trauma. But I’m also straight and cis and all the queer folks in my circles have only ever expressed relief and confidence in any newfound identities, at least externally.
Until I truly realized (not that long ago!) that everything in me flows in unfathomable axes of gender and attraction models, I’d have from time to time reactions like “BUT AM I REALLY?? :((” or “oh god I’m so tired, how many times do I gotta rediscover myself again???” As if I had been faking it and hadn’t noticed but THIS TIME FOR SURE was it right?? right???
The word “queer” as an identity is a blessing. Whatever I am, it’s inherently Non Cis Non Straight no matter where in the spectrum are my vibes going to be for the foreseeable time.
I mean, it can happen initially when you realise you’re aren’t straight ect. so I don’t see why it wouldn’t be possible for queer identities too.
Whether it’s common or not, I don’t think so based on my experience but I’m also a gay man so my experiences aren’t universal to other groups. It could be more common with lesbians for all I know.
Not for me personally, but I think this could be an experience amongst some queer people whose relationships with others become shaky, broken or burn down in flames over their sexuality.
Like if you came out as gay and it destroyed your family, the thought of discovering you were bisexual or pansexual or that your interests in genders could change can be terrifying for some. It can make it seem like your oppressors were right or like the fighting and bigotry was all for nothing.
Becky’s relationship with her Dad was in intense conflict because of her sexuality. She doubled down on it as hard as possible and displays it proudly as part of who she is. The thought of what she sees as a core component of herself changing likely terrifies her because it has been a big source of conflict with others and who she is.
I fought like hell to get a gay relationship away from my parents, and resisted leaving even after it was obvious to everyone else that it was over, purely because I didn’t want to prove my parents “right”.
Someone I was at uni with identified as a lesbian, and I know she struggled with that when she fell in love and got together with man. Letting go of that identity wasn’t easy for her. Now she identities as bi, and as far as I know they’re still together.
I think it’s probably harder to let go of an identity you’ve stood up and fought for, rather than one that was assigned by default, like cis and straight.
Identification often comes with community, so changing your identity can affect that, too, which can be a huge part of someone’s life. Of course Becky is clearly overdoing it here – nothing has happened, and also, her rigid idea of identity is a bit worrying.
What would you all say about reinterpreting that struggle as “defending my right to be who I am, yesterday, today, tomorrow, and all along my world-line”?
Becky’s definitely feeling it stronger than I ever did, but I first came out as bi and identified with that from maybe ages 14-20, and it was a bit of a struggle to let go of it once I was feeling like it no longer resonated with me. In part that was because I got years of reactions of, “Oh, that’ll change” or “people never stay bi” or whatever, and those are sucky things to say… I didn’t want my experience to be, like, supporting biphobia or something.
Though my identity didn’t shift into being straight or gay like it had been suggested, more into the lovely tangle of “queer.”
I don’t think she’s joking. I think she’s having a very serious amount of anxiety about this thing she’s afraid of. The fact that there’s a punchline in the final frame is because this is a comic strip, not because Becky herself is trying to be funny.
I’m getting a strong rule 63 Billy Crystal and Soap vibe off this comic. For readers under 50, there was this TV show that was a parody of soap operas, and Billy played a gay man dating a bi man who was complaining about Billy’s character not being a woman on days when the boyfriend character wanted to be with women, so Billy’s character started talking about a sex change.
Oddly, they coincidentally did do an issue about sexual fluidity. As he discovered he was bi and it messed with his years of fighting for his gay identity.
His Psychotherapist: “You have a child with one woman and you’re currently with another and you want to know if you’re gay?”
While I suspect there’s a lot that would be problematic by today’s standards (as you’d expect from a 70s parody of soap operas) Soap really was a brilliantly funny show and touched a lot of controversial topics for the era.
I wasn’t aware that liking The Office and eating Chick-Fil-A was a straight thing. Kinda wondering where Becky got that idea. But then, while I like The Office, I’ve only seen a little of it, and I haven’t ate at Chick-Fil-A in years, and I’m bi so I don’t know.
The Chik-Fil-A thing is probably due to Chik-Fil-A donating to anti-LGBTQIA programs. I don’t know if they still do that, they certainly don’t advertise doing it anymore and SAY they don’t… but you know…
They don’t do it as a corporation anymore, as of like six years ago. But I assume that the owners still donate to those same causes out of their personal funds.
With The Office, its probably just that its a mainstream, fairly normie comedy.
Its a very, very good one, don’t get me wrong, but to my knowledge it never really tried to push the cultural envelope on what made for good comedy in mainstream culture and more just tried to perfect an already well-established form of comedy.
I think it’s just more of a ‘basic’ thing. Although while it is good and ‘for everyone’, i can imagine some ppl would say their ‘fave show’ is something with more ‘queer undertones’ if they’re lgbt themselves but it might depend
personally i think popeyes is the best (not that i’d get into a fight over it) but i never got the appeal of pickles on chicken sandwiches (tho i don’t like pickles to begin with/would rather have fresh sliced cucumber)
It’s just the combination of two different flavor profiles to make a more complex flavor. Salty and sour is a very common combination that works well. Think of saurkraut and sausage, or miso soup, or Cool Ranch Doritos.
eh well i dont think i like anything ‘pickled’ (interesting it’s called ‘gherkins’ or so in the UK(?) but i know there are other ‘pickled’ veggies out there like kimchi and stuff tho it’s collectively referfering to pickled cucumbers around here specifically idk if i’ve had the ‘sweet’ pickles but iknow they can vary. but yeah if i wanted salt i’d rather just have it with a side of fries)
although even without the sauce, it’s not excessive or anything but i think the ‘chicken sandwich’ option for popeyes is slightly saltier than their tenders/normal bone-in pieces
I think people (esp. older cis het folks) get worried by all the terminology, so queer is kinda comforting as a sort of catch-all category for “not cis het”. It was certainly a term I used when I discovered things about myself that I didn’t know because of upbringing.
I think I have found myself a category for the not cis bit, which is ‘both, and’ (both male and female), with the emphasis on the AND. No idea if there is such a thing, but there is now, rule 35 and all that.
I think what a lot of people tend to forget is that these labels are basically just rough categories. As with every type of classification system, there will be outliers and edge cases that don’t quite fit neatly into each box. It’s kind of like food preferences. You can say you’re omnivore, vegetarian, pescatarian et al, but with these special exceptions/preferences on top.
Let’s bring back some of this attitude please. Who’s this Becky who’s scared to open a textbook in case it challenges something she would like to be true?
Reminded of that Malcolm in the Middle episode where Lois wears makeup and Hal ravishes her, so she’s led to believe that makeup makes her hot. Later she puts on a backwards baseball cap and he ravishes her with the same intensity, making her realize that her husband is just super into her. Becky, embrace the fact that you’re super into your girlfriend and no amount of makeup or suits will change that.
If being attracted to women in suits is even slightly comparable to being attracted to men, then I am gay as hell.
There is nothing, absolutely not one fucking thing in this world more attractive than a woman in a suit and tie. Not a skirt suit either, a proper suit with slacks, thank you very much.
Preferably with a waistcoat as well, but that’s optional.
Little bit of a swerve here, but seeing Dina reminded me of something I’ve been wondering for a while.
How does she feel abouts OLD dinosaur media like that The Right Of Spring sequence from Fantasia? Thing is so old that it predates the asteroid killing dinosaurs being considered.
I imagine Dina would revel in the fact that science marches on, and more accurate ideas replace old ones. I mean, she knows how to play 2 pieces of music, Jurassic Park and the Barny song. Maybe if she watched it she would consider learning that Stravinsky as well.
But then again, she didn’t learn any of the Land Before Time sequel songs. Maybe she would have but those movies don’t exist in Willis’s worlds. Or her parents protected her from them. They’re all filled with magical thinking, after all.
The first step for me: I like boys. 2) female bodybuilders and masc lesbians are sooo hot. 3) Where did all the cute guys go? Nowadays my pron file is exclusively masc lesbians and female bodybuilders, and a few trans women.
Nothing wrong with eating at Chick-Fil-A. They provide an excellent product at market prices and set the gold standard for efficiency and customer service. The workers are always very nice & helpful. It’s a shame people hate an excellent organization simply because the owner is a hateful prick.
People can decide if they want their money to help enrich hateful pricks. They have no responsibility to support the thousands of employees who work for those hateful pricks.
I think it’s perfectly valid for someone to opt out of spending their money at a business where they know the profits will ultimately go to someone who doesn’t share their values, regardless of their other business practices. There are many unethical companies that are difficult for individuals to choose not to support, either because there aren’t many other options or it’s the only option they can reasonably afford, but that’s not the case with Chick-Fil-A.
I do know someone who has a deal with their queer friend where every time he eats at a Chick-Fil-A he has to Venmo her $1.
Yeah, I wouldn’t criticize LGBTQ people who want to eat there, but I’m also not going to argue it’s an excellent organization or it’s a shame people hate it.
I just said, its their choice. They are the ones who can decide their product selection and getting on them, the victim, makes you part of the problem not a solution.
I don’t give a shit what you “just said”, I wasn’t responding to you. I’m not “part of the problem” for shit talking your precious fucking chicken restaurant, you colonist.
I forgot about the wizard books for a moment and thought JKR stood for John Keff Rennedy for some reason. Y’know, the iconic assassinated President who was also an artist.
Ran across this strip while looking for earlier chic-fil-a references. Found someone for Arnold to see while Sarah’s with Tony. It requires Sal and Danny breaking up though, Sal’s not up for a polycule.
nobody who has ever told me to watch the office has been able to tell me why it’s good
so many people have told me to watch it
I have not seen a single episode
I wouldn’t really say that it’s good or that you’re missing out by not watching it but I WILL say that the first three seasons or so is a shockingly decent time capsule of 2003 corporate aesthetics. I think the movie “Melvin Goes to Dinner” might be the only other thing I’ve seen that really captures that specific turn of the century “professional design” in a non-exaggerated/nouveau riche way.
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it seems if you cut the head off a fundamentalist talking snake, the body still lives
but hopefully not for too much longer
Dina, Charlie is right behind you
you know what to do! >:D
*plays “Kryptonite” by 3 Doors Down on hacked muzak*
dina wearing a suit might be the queerest thing in this whole comic
Having a “The Group” flashback now.
non gender conforming/androgynous/gender fluid dina unlocked 8D;
Butch Dina butch Dina butch Dina, we need butch Dina in our lives
@lys honestly at this point she’s gonna make her own style like “dino butch” or something like that 8D;
Gender swapped Dina? Dino if you will. I think she’s approve.
Most people hold firmly their name’s current form, but I suppose she might let that go. You know get her “declension”.
Took me a long while to figure out you meant Dino like Dinosaur and not Dino like Dino Spumoni.
“Eeeey, look at dis wise guy, thinks raptors don’t gots feathers. Badda binge, badda boom. Other Italian-American stereotype things to say. Fuggedabodit”
Now there’s a name I didn’t expect to see dropped in these comments!
I need to rewatch Hey Arnold! again…
Not Dino Flintstone?
I keep thinking of The State, Episode 301, where the cast plan to go to the zoo “to watch monkeys do it”. Sorry for not linking to a video. Paramount has that sucker locked down.
If Becky’s belief of wearing a suit = male presenting = ‘liking men’ is taken at face value the solution to Becky’s problem is simple. Also wear a suit at the same time. Then it’d be gay so still queer just all the way around. This is the one true solution. I say this with no ulterior motives whatsoever.
Their wedding outfits not being dinosaurs wearing suits and top hats would be a tragedy.
Something like Davan and Vanessa?
https://somethingpositive.net/comic/the-wedding-album-pt-1/
She was about 2/3 the way there a bunch of chapters ago, with a collared shirt and tie under a vest.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/fancypantsy/
Were those actually false positives Joyce was sending?
I think Becky’s still thinking about Joyce. I don’t think she’d be doing this over-the-top act if her insecurities were only about herself.
Dumbing of Age Book 15: Hey, Guess What, I’m Not a Lesbian!
But we already know it’s going to be Dumbing of Age Book 15: While Sitting on a Throne Built Out of the Bones of Acceptable Losses.
The alt text has never lied about this. Though I suppose there’s always a first time.
There should be a formal so that the whole cast can be in tuxedos.
Bottle Episode time!
Well, if you ignore all the obligatory flashbacks reusing old art.
Becky was so messed up by fundamentalism she can’t enjoy being butch4butch, smh :/
2 butch pairing is arguably gayer than just being regular lesbians.
It’s queerness squared, ‘course it is
Give it time, but yeah, you’re very correct to bring that factor up. It’s sometimes easy to forget that her beginning was as fundamentalist as Joyce’s was, and she carries a lot of baggage from that, too, same as she does. It’s just different in some ways in how it manifests, and one of them she’s still got is a lot of ideas of gender norms.
It’s really cool we’re getting to watch her deal with it – she’s basically convinced herself there’s nothing to deprogram herself from. I don’t mean her religion. It’s rather than there’s nothing more dangerous for the soul as going “yep, I’ve learned everything there is”, and she comes from such a small world…
like, how this is happening to Becky is like, wow
she thinks that “different gender presentation on behalf of her partner” = “losing queer-points” like it’s a one-dimensional deal or the Vegan Police from Scott Pilgrim or some shit
was her gender-studies class ineffective, or is her indoctrination just THAT persistent? :0
I mean a lot of her gender knowledge is self-taught.
She might have a fear that if any part of her new self-image slips, it will all slide away and she’ll end up like her mother. 8-({
I mean, Becky’s only like what, a couple weeks into her gender studies class? Too soon to call it ineffective IMO
Literally. It’s also pretty fuckin hard to break out of indoctrination. She’s had a few months to try and undo 18 years of cult… we could cut her a lil slack here on the gender presentation stuff. Wrestling with it is how we learn things.
The thing is that it’s not her fundie brain that’s fucking her up here. It’s the fact that she’s having the thing she CHALLENGES the fundie brain with fucked with.
Fundie brain is “You’re a woman and meant to be attracted to a man.”
Resistance brain is, “You are attracted to women and that is how God made you.”
It’s now, “It’s not so simple as that.” That is messing with her Resistance brain.
I think people are talking more about the structure of the fundie brain, which is still in place even in her “resistance brain” thoughts. There’s that fundie brain strictness going: Things must be ABSOLUTE. Questioning things is a THREAT.
One thing explained to me about autism was that they tended to have more black and white views of things. A neurotypical brain will often justify things that they’d normally think was absolutely wrong versus right when it beneifted them.
It made me think fundamentalists were neurotypical because they always find a way to justify things they want while Becky has a view of things being good or evil and sticking to it.
I don’t think that’s…right. Honestly, the bringing in autism and neurotypical as an analogy makes me really uncomfortable, so I’m going to skip over that part, but I think aspects of black and white thinking are major in fundamentalism. It might be applied differently than you’re thinking– not always “This action is bad, so it’s bad when anyone does is” but “This person is good, so everything they do is good” (for leaders, a lot). Fundamentalists as individuals also *don’t* always find a way to justify things they want. As an organization, that’s probably different, but it’s also a different meaning of “wanting.”
ah, is true
Leslie may be a Not Mother, but she ain’t a miracle worker 😐
I do hope that part of Becky’s coping mechanism is to try out saying something as farce, so she won’t be as afraid to examine it with nuance later. Like exposure therapy. That she’s completely in control of.
This kind of thing is why I was sad Becky learned about Jocelyne offscreen. It would have been interesting to see her wrestle a bit with it
I mean…18 years vs a couple of weeks. Hell they might not have even gotten to the intersection of gender presentation and sexuality in the curriculum yet
Becky’s doing a bit, don’t take it for 100% face value.
I feel like Becky has some really odd brainworms here and is using what she’s learning to reinforce them rather than build an understanding of queerness that would let her beat them.
I mean Becky was raised with really strict ideas of sexuality and gender. And even through she rejected the content of that framework, the framework itself is still deeply embedded in her brain. When you’re raised with ideas of “all women must be ladylike and are attracted to big strong manly men”, and narrowly escaped the very real threat of conversion therapy, the idea of sexuality being fluid would be terrifying. She still hasn’t seen much of the wider queer community, idk if she knows about Butch4butch. Either way she probably thinks of finding any masculinity attractive with this new context as conceding ground to her old community. She’s got brainworms that we’re implanted there that have been slowly getting pulled out with outside help, and I think she needs a few long one on ones with Leslie to kill these ones in particular
Becky proclaims she’s a LESSSSBIANNNNNN because it is her way of asserting her individuality to an uncaring world.
Becky just wants one thing she can rely on completely.
Now the people she loves are challenging that too.
Being attracted to a woman wearing a suit and tie is like the most lesbian thing you can do
Love the vibe your gravatar gives to this Incredibly Correct Take.
Does that still follow if you’re a man?
Asking for a friend.
Tell him I’m very sorry, he’s a he/him lesbian now. There’s no cure
oh no
Hm, thinking now of those 1940s cabaret singers wearing a suit jacket, tie, top hat, and matching short-shorts, with heels and silk stockings. Wonder what that was about?
It’s me. I’m the friend. Apparently I’m a lesbian now. Well, dang, okay, time to read up on some stuff.
In reply to Duck and Dante at top of thread (no idea where this is gonna end up):
Yup. Very much so.
I own some (cheap) male dress shirts that are used exclusively for sexual purposes as though they were lingerie. Thrown on a blazer for full effect.
right??? XD
can’t wait to see it!!!! eeeek!!!! ^^ <3
*stims in place SHO MUCH*
It’s so good it’s made me cry before
lesbian + suit + tie
automatically made me think Hatsune Miku XD
……. Famously butch Hatsune Miku?
by default Miku’s always wearing a suit and tie, and was part of how I found out I was gay, so you tell me XD <3
I’m sorry fam. Not invalidating you, we just must have wildly different standards for what is a butch. Or a suit :’DD
ahahahhaa fair XD
there’s def dozens of fanart of miku with diff looks so she’s versatile to be anything
but i imagine most ppl would associate flower with more queer vibes , tho there are also a lot of tgirl miku art with the colors and such
and the meika siblings(?) are canonically ‘free from gender’ so there’s that lol
LOL well nothing wrong with wearing what you want but i’d hope becky doesn’t panic too much. or come off as over compensating like “ok but the tie has to be the lesbian flag colors” or so lol (although been a while since they went shopping together. that said you could easily have some kinda pantsuit/female office wear or some kinda ‘oversized’/slightly loose unbuttoned blazer with no shirt underneath [depending on how comfortable you feel with it] that’d def give off an appealing look)
becky he/him lesbian arc ? 👀
It doesn’t diminish by— Watching The Office doesn’t— …fudge it all again.
Shame there’s not a whole lotta people doing fanarts
Becky’s obviously being silly, but it makes sense when you think about all of the ordeals she’s had to go through due to the world’s resistance to her being a lesbian.
Yes, bi/pan lesbians exist, but that one’s A. a point of contention in the wlw community that I already made my stance on pretty clear with the “exist” part, and B. something she probably doesn’t know a ton about, though I mean, she is at least gets that Ruth and Jennifer are bi and thought Joyce was being silly when she was hung up on that.
In any case, I hope she can talk to someone about this who may be experienced on the topic, though it’s tough enough as it is, her making queer friends in general, it’d seem.
Inb4 you get assholes trying to refute your second paragraph, a note to them: policing other people’s queer experiences, just because they don’t match *your* understanding, will never be progressive. If someone uses a harmless label that you don’t like, that just means *you* don’t have to use that label for yourself. Some people have complicated relationships to their gender and/or sexuality and/or romantic orientation, and that’s cool. Humans are so cool!
Aye. Becky had to throw out a lot of crap that she grew up with, or rethink how it applies to her, in order to be happy with herself.
Her actions are silly, and Carla’s understated joke in the end (is she feeling alright?) is exactly how I’m seeing this, but I 100% get her anxiety over it all. This is shit that she doesn’t want to have to question or confront, if only just because she’s been through way too much as it is right now.
I do like Dina’s comment, too, because it’s a good way to try to isolate what Becky’s concern is. She’s trying to figure out “is Becky concerned about not actually being a lesbian, or is she concerned about losing me?” and… well, sure sounds like she got an answer there :D.
Charlie and Dina escape the elevator via their ability to just BE at random places.
Carla left alone to deal with Becky’s existential crisis: “Fuck.”
Having never watched more than one episode of the Office, I am confused about the comment in regards to it.
She’s sort of treating it as a hallmark of heterosexuality, that it’s a very “normie” show.
Which shows she never saw the Mindy Kaling episodes.
I have a cousin who has The Office as a personality trait. She had quotes from The Office incorporated into her wedding ceremony. Which was a heterosexual event.
So, I kind of get it, but I’m also a fan of letting people like things. But I do know at times my cousin has had moments of judging people for really liking things that are less mainstream, as do some other fans of mainstream things, so there’s judgment all around.
Thank you all for explaining that. I appreciate it.
I was worse… I’ve never heard of it! But I expect a lot of this goes over my head just for not being a USAvian.
There are at least a dozen non-english adaptions as well as the British, American and Austrailian versions.
I’m thinking Dina in a three piece John Wick suit. Dapper and dangerous. That’s her. (Thinking of Homestar Runner’s Halloween specials, where the characters all dressed up in various pop culture/historical costumes. Would love to see Willis try something along those lines. Maybe spawn a new line of magnets or something?)
“Hey Dina, I weally like yoaw ‘goth Chawlie Morningstaw’ costume.”
(Crap, I can’t remember if Homestar’s rhotacism makes him slur his Ls or his Rs.)
Promises, promises, alt text.
I didn’t even read the alt text til your comment, so thank you.
Also – hell yeah! I’d be all about seeing those four trapped in an elevator while Becky has a fluidity breakdown.
But Becky being fluid is even more queer
Odo flew under everyone’s radar because they were all focused on Garak and Bashir.
Oh my gods! I was so thrilled during the finale of Lower Decks that it gave us the Garak/Bashir couple arc that the network forbade during the original DS9!
Dina in a suit would have to be smoking. Unfiltered cigarette, cigar, or pipe?
Candy cigarette or lollipop.
Who loves ya, baby?
The world is not prepared for the sheer power of Dina in a suit.
It’s hardly prepared for her in a lab coat.
… yes aaaaaaaaaaah T-T <3
Someone needs to deliver Becky 20sec of pure Annie Lennox in a suit, stat!
Sometimes I wonder if maybe I’m not queer anymore and then there’s Annie Lennox in a suit with a buzzcut implying that she’ll whip me.
She goes “some of them want to use you” and I swear to god I start FERVENTLY NODDING every. single. time.
The effect Annie Lennox has in baby goths is The Realization they’re queer baby goths.
I can’t hear this song and not think of Conan.
https://futureconan.ytmnd.com/
Seriously, ANYTHING but making The Office her whole personality. T_T
NOOOO GOD! NO GOD PLEASE NO! NO! NO!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I’m just glad boring straights talk about The Office now, it used to be either Fight Club or Sex in the City.
I have known a number of gay people that swear by eating at Chick Fil A; even going out of their way to declare that they don’t care *what* the company is affiliated with, so long as they continue to make food as delicious as it (Chick Fil A) is, they will keep eating there.
I’ve never eaten there, and will continue not to do so, but even if there weren’t the ethical issues there are, I feel like I wouldn’t get food from there because the lines are always so long. It’s annoying to be near when I’m stopping at a strip mall or the food court. It’s hard to believe the food is good enough to justify the line, let alone the moral compromise.
Also, I’m a vegetarian, so that does limit what I could enjoy from them.
I was all set to disagree until you said you were a vegetarian. That is a bit of a deal killer. I’ve had maybe three of their sandwiches in the last seven years, and that was overpriced at a huge event, but they were damn good.
See I used to be this person but I think their quality has gone down.
I’d still happily eat it if you gave it to me for free but it’s not worth that line or the bigotry anymore.
I’m always surprised to learn about queer people or other oppressed groups who support awful bigoted enterprises with their money. Like yeah there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism and all, but surely there’s a FEW things we can give up for the sake of NOT furthering human suffering?
is giving up fucking fried chicken THAT hard that you’ll give money to the forced conversion therapy camps?
ethical buying is complicated (by design), but sometimes it really is a 1 to 1 you’re directly financing the bigotry machine and it would be so easy not to do that! you don’t need homophobia chicken to live just like you don’t need chocolate harvested and packaged by enslaved children.
we need queer-owned businesses
we need worker coops
queer-owned worker coops
yeah… I like the sound of that
also just for fun Dina and Charlie should use their instant transmission power to steal Chica Fil A’s recipes >:D
Eh, there’s other chains that do a mean chicken sandwich, fast and convenient.
You’ve got to wonder where someone like that draws the line. If they made a delicious enough sandwich out of gay people who died of suicide would it still be worth it? Once you decide good fast food in your mouth is more important than not sponsoring a hate group where’s the limit?
I’d argue just learn to cook for yourself. There’s detailed chick-fil-a recipes online.
Chic-fil-a’s secret ingredients are grease and salt. I find it hard to believe that no other fast food restaurants have managed to make chicken that’s greasy and salty enough.
I don’t believe in the existence of non-slavery chocolate. It doesn’t seem like something that exists.
I think that denying yourself good food as a LGBTA person hurts the LGBTA person more than it helps Chik Fillet. Then again, I have queer nieces who love it and I hate it.
Before I 1) recognized myself as queer, and 2) knew how awful they are, I burned myself out on the Homophobic Chicken by eating it for lunch every single day of college for like 3 years “straight.” I’m relieved, because a lot of my queer friends get tempted by it from time to time, and it just makes me think of freshman angst and that time a honey mustard packet exploded inside my purse, lmao
I haven’t ate at Chick-Fil-A in years, not just because they’re homophobic, but also because their chicken sandwiches aren’t that good. Other fast food places have chicken that’s better, at least in my area.
It gives me massive indigestion. (We get it for work events sometimes despite my complaints. I got a heads up to bring my own lunch for an event this week because it’s being catered.)
Wendy’s is better for 1 sandwich, KFC for a bucket of fried chicken.
But I’m in upstate New York, I can go to Local Wings Place which is nicer than either. New York has lots of local food joints all over. Such privilege.
To my taste, the food is not that great; it’s typical chicken restaurant fare. The waffle fries are a pleasant gimmick, but easily given up. I’ve other options and give them my money.
Those people are quislings. Popeye’s does it better, serves on Sundays and I’m not giving money to a hate group.
ah. i see becky has yet to encounter the fantastic world of butch4butch lesbians… you’ll get there baby girl, don’t worry. there are ways of being a lesbian you haven’t even thought of yet
As a queer who rather likes The Office and admittedly used to eat quite a bit of CFA (I’d still totally go for a sandwich) and married a straight person. Crap.
Becky, you can be a lesbian and still prefer masc-presenting women! Hold on, lemme send you some Hailee and Kendra thirst traps, heavy on the Hailee.
Man I do not miss that initial deep insecurity that lingered for WAY too long after coming out. Nonsense.
Also Becky, c’mon, you can like you some butches.
Becky really was denied coming out/experiencing lesbian culture so much that she hasn’t even learned she can like a girl in a suit. Shame.
Suits are sexy on anyone. So are dresses. Y’know what? Fuck dress codes.
poor girl has never learned Hatsune Miku T_T
“Confessions of a Rotten Girl” ft. Hatsune Miku is so Becky’s mood
Soon she’ll delete her Tumblr account and move to Facebook or Instagram or something.
Ugh… that would be miserable.
lotta queers are moving to Mastodon and BlueSky from what I’ve seen
some are even making their own GeoCities-like pages in the Web Revival movement
“GeoCities”?!? Daaannnggg…hadn’t heard _that_ in a long time.
DoA moving to members.tripod.com/~walkerton
Bring back
RoomiesWeb 1.0Poor girl. She’s Struggling right now.
Oh, Becky. Honey. Redefining your sexuality is not mandatory.
Also, you gotta meet more lesbians.
Re alt-text: DO IT, WILLIS. DO IT, YOU CHICKEN!
Carla actually spent a strip with dialogue without making it about her?
I do want to note that, while the intent is sweet, Dina’s offer in panel 2 is a terrible situation to force yourself into IRL. Can confirm.
I mean “forcing” herself into it may not necessarily be the way she sees it?
Dina’s a scientist, she likes to experiment :D
True, but “even if I’m secure in my girliness, I would be willing to alter my gender presentation to meet your needs” doesn’t sound much better. If it’s all just for fun and she thinks it could be interesting, that’s cool! But any time you feel like changing yourself *just* to please a partner, it can easily turn toxic. Not necessarily because your partner is toxic, but because “I’ll change anything about myself if it means staying in this relationship” is a harmful mindset.
Again: not saying that’s what is or would be happening here. Just that, if someone catches themself thinking this way IRL, they should maybe see that as a red flag in their thought patterns. (I know that *should* be common knowledge, but I know too many people who were raised to think that mindset is okay or even romantic. Evangelicals are wild.)
Yeah but some people just don’t care very much. In this strip (and a couple others) Dina gives me the impression of cis by default without being particularly attached to it. Doesn’t really care about other folks genders, has hers because wanting to change it would require caring about it more than she does. She dresses like a nerd and has a female body, but nothing in the way she presents is particularly feminine except her hair.
If you genuinely don’t really care about your gender presentation, this is probably a pretty easy assurance to give. Your partner is valuable to you. Your gender presentation is who cares. Easy trade.
Actually, Dina could be correct on this one. If she is agender or some other brand of nonbinary, she might legitimately be okay with presenting as a man/more masculinely.
On the other hand, she could simply be unaware of the dysphoria that that would cause, or her offer might be more in the realm of “I’d dress more butch if you wanted me to” or maybe even “if you found it hot.”
I’m reading it less as a super-sincere offer (although I wager Dina would try, because she’s wonderful), and more trying to figure out where Becky’s mind is right now, what the core of her concern is.
well, when she went to that ‘questioning’ group that ethan/joyce was also at , she said she was ‘unconcerned’ so i don’t think wearing ‘masculine ‘ clothing is too big of a deal as opposed to immediately taking hormones
Question for anyone who’s up for answering it: is Becky’s fear here a commonly-experienced thing? That the identity you fought for would start to drift on you?
I ask because I can see it being a pretty unique fear to Becky’s unique psyche and trauma. But I’m also straight and cis and all the queer folks in my circles have only ever expressed relief and confidence in any newfound identities, at least externally.
Until I truly realized (not that long ago!) that everything in me flows in unfathomable axes of gender and attraction models, I’d have from time to time reactions like “BUT AM I REALLY?? :((” or “oh god I’m so tired, how many times do I gotta rediscover myself again???” As if I had been faking it and hadn’t noticed but THIS TIME FOR SURE was it right?? right???
The word “queer” as an identity is a blessing. Whatever I am, it’s inherently Non Cis Non Straight no matter where in the spectrum are my vibes going to be for the foreseeable time.
I really feel that,
especially for the longest time before I discovered being genderfluid is a thing :)
Same. Not to her extent, but same
her? unclear pronoun here i think
and I mean the actual grammar kinda pronoun, am well aware that’s also a dogwhistle :/
I mean, it can happen initially when you realise you’re aren’t straight ect. so I don’t see why it wouldn’t be possible for queer identities too.
Whether it’s common or not, I don’t think so based on my experience but I’m also a gay man so my experiences aren’t universal to other groups. It could be more common with lesbians for all I know.
Not for me personally, but I think this could be an experience amongst some queer people whose relationships with others become shaky, broken or burn down in flames over their sexuality.
Like if you came out as gay and it destroyed your family, the thought of discovering you were bisexual or pansexual or that your interests in genders could change can be terrifying for some. It can make it seem like your oppressors were right or like the fighting and bigotry was all for nothing.
Becky’s relationship with her Dad was in intense conflict because of her sexuality. She doubled down on it as hard as possible and displays it proudly as part of who she is. The thought of what she sees as a core component of herself changing likely terrifies her because it has been a big source of conflict with others and who she is.
THIS! SO MUCH THIS!
I fought like hell to get a gay relationship away from my parents, and resisted leaving even after it was obvious to everyone else that it was over, purely because I didn’t want to prove my parents “right”.
Someone I was at uni with identified as a lesbian, and I know she struggled with that when she fell in love and got together with man. Letting go of that identity wasn’t easy for her. Now she identities as bi, and as far as I know they’re still together.
I think it’s probably harder to let go of an identity you’ve stood up and fought for, rather than one that was assigned by default, like cis and straight.
Identification often comes with community, so changing your identity can affect that, too, which can be a huge part of someone’s life. Of course Becky is clearly overdoing it here – nothing has happened, and also, her rigid idea of identity is a bit worrying.
What would you all say about reinterpreting that struggle as “defending my right to be who I am, yesterday, today, tomorrow, and all along my world-line”?
Becky’s definitely feeling it stronger than I ever did, but I first came out as bi and identified with that from maybe ages 14-20, and it was a bit of a struggle to let go of it once I was feeling like it no longer resonated with me. In part that was because I got years of reactions of, “Oh, that’ll change” or “people never stay bi” or whatever, and those are sucky things to say… I didn’t want my experience to be, like, supporting biphobia or something.
Though my identity didn’t shift into being straight or gay like it had been suggested, more into the lovely tangle of “queer.”
Wow, Becky, brushing off your girlfriend’s very valid response as a joke.
Good job.
I don’t think she’s joking. I think she’s having a very serious amount of anxiety about this thing she’s afraid of. The fact that there’s a punchline in the final frame is because this is a comic strip, not because Becky herself is trying to be funny.
I think she’s doing a great job tbh.
That’s how Becky deals with panic.
I’m getting a strong rule 63 Billy Crystal and Soap vibe off this comic. For readers under 50, there was this TV show that was a parody of soap operas, and Billy played a gay man dating a bi man who was complaining about Billy’s character not being a woman on days when the boyfriend character wanted to be with women, so Billy’s character started talking about a sex change.
Well his BF was a fooball player in the 70s, and being with a man was the kiss of death for a football career.
Oddly, they coincidentally did do an issue about sexual fluidity. As he discovered he was bi and it messed with his years of fighting for his gay identity.
His Psychotherapist: “You have a child with one woman and you’re currently with another and you want to know if you’re gay?”
“yes.”
“I think you may have a problem.”
Sadly, it ended on a cliffhanger.
While I suspect there’s a lot that would be problematic by today’s standards (as you’d expect from a 70s parody of soap operas) Soap really was a brilliantly funny show and touched a lot of controversial topics for the era.
I wasn’t aware that liking The Office and eating Chick-Fil-A was a straight thing. Kinda wondering where Becky got that idea. But then, while I like The Office, I’ve only seen a little of it, and I haven’t ate at Chick-Fil-A in years, and I’m bi so I don’t know.
The Chik-Fil-A thing is probably due to Chik-Fil-A donating to anti-LGBTQIA programs. I don’t know if they still do that, they certainly don’t advertise doing it anymore and SAY they don’t… but you know…
They don’t do it as a corporation anymore, as of like six years ago. But I assume that the owners still donate to those same causes out of their personal funds.
With The Office, its probably just that its a mainstream, fairly normie comedy.
Its a very, very good one, don’t get me wrong, but to my knowledge it never really tried to push the cultural envelope on what made for good comedy in mainstream culture and more just tried to perfect an already well-established form of comedy.
I think it’s just more of a ‘basic’ thing. Although while it is good and ‘for everyone’, i can imagine some ppl would say their ‘fave show’ is something with more ‘queer undertones’ if they’re lgbt themselves but it might depend
personally i think popeyes is the best (not that i’d get into a fight over it) but i never got the appeal of pickles on chicken sandwiches (tho i don’t like pickles to begin with/would rather have fresh sliced cucumber)
yee is cheaper than KFC’s, at least where I am,
is much better with honey mustard :9
It’s just the combination of two different flavor profiles to make a more complex flavor. Salty and sour is a very common combination that works well. Think of saurkraut and sausage, or miso soup, or Cool Ranch Doritos.
eh well i dont think i like anything ‘pickled’ (interesting it’s called ‘gherkins’ or so in the UK(?) but i know there are other ‘pickled’ veggies out there like kimchi and stuff tho it’s collectively referfering to pickled cucumbers around here specifically idk if i’ve had the ‘sweet’ pickles but iknow they can vary. but yeah if i wanted salt i’d rather just have it with a side of fries)
although even without the sauce, it’s not excessive or anything but i think the ‘chicken sandwich’ option for popeyes is slightly saltier than their tenders/normal bone-in pieces
I think people (esp. older cis het folks) get worried by all the terminology, so queer is kinda comforting as a sort of catch-all category for “not cis het”. It was certainly a term I used when I discovered things about myself that I didn’t know because of upbringing.
I think I have found myself a category for the not cis bit, which is ‘both, and’ (both male and female), with the emphasis on the AND. No idea if there is such a thing, but there is now, rule 35 and all that.
I think what a lot of people tend to forget is that these labels are basically just rough categories. As with every type of classification system, there will be outliers and edge cases that don’t quite fit neatly into each box. It’s kind of like food preferences. You can say you’re omnivore, vegetarian, pescatarian et al, but with these special exceptions/preferences on top.
People are messy. You can put them in boxes, but they slop over the edges.
I have given up on classifying myself beyond, “kinda fucked up and too exhausted to try and look for a real partner.”
There is definitely such a thing, and various labels people use to identify such experience, optionally.
I like queer cause it defies people who want to know what kind of sex weirdos you are so they can divide you against each other, aka terfs.
Ah, good, we’re back to the better Sanchez twin.
“What if I also altered my hair to spiky blonde and sung ‘Sweet Dreams?'”
“Now that’s just cheatin’!”
Let’s bring back some of this attitude please. Who’s this Becky who’s scared to open a textbook in case it challenges something she would like to be true?
Reminded of that Malcolm in the Middle episode where Lois wears makeup and Hal ravishes her, so she’s led to believe that makeup makes her hot. Later she puts on a backwards baseball cap and he ravishes her with the same intensity, making her realize that her husband is just super into her. Becky, embrace the fact that you’re super into your girlfriend and no amount of makeup or suits will change that.
Chill Becky, ladies in suits are hot all around, they are Universally Hot.
Listen Becky, I think EVERYONE is attracted to Annie Lennox in “Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This),” whatever their sexuality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg&ab_channel=EurythmicsVEVO
Very confused how according to Becky, being into women in suits apparently somehow makes you *less* of a lesbian…
Jeez.
Becky wears suits. She’s doing a bit.
I think she’s just irrationally panicking.
If being attracted to women in suits is even slightly comparable to being attracted to men, then I am gay as hell.
There is nothing, absolutely not one fucking thing in this world more attractive than a woman in a suit and tie. Not a skirt suit either, a proper suit with slacks, thank you very much.
Preferably with a waistcoat as well, but that’s optional.
The next arc will be “they get stuck in an elevator and have to decide who gets eaten” ?!
Having eaten Chik-Fil-A via work luncheon, I gotta say… the chicken is pretty mediocre. Wendy’s is actually better.
Tried Popeye’s? Now those guys can pack a Chicken sandwich.
Little bit of a swerve here, but seeing Dina reminded me of something I’ve been wondering for a while.
How does she feel abouts OLD dinosaur media like that The Right Of Spring sequence from Fantasia? Thing is so old that it predates the asteroid killing dinosaurs being considered.
I imagine Dina would revel in the fact that science marches on, and more accurate ideas replace old ones. I mean, she knows how to play 2 pieces of music, Jurassic Park and the Barny song. Maybe if she watched it she would consider learning that Stravinsky as well.
But then again, she didn’t learn any of the Land Before Time sequel songs. Maybe she would have but those movies don’t exist in Willis’s worlds. Or her parents protected her from them. They’re all filled with magical thinking, after all.
Having only seen Stone of Cold Fire out of that entire series, I can say she’s not missing out on much, musically.
I don’t think there’s ever been a hint that Dina would ever wear a suit and tie.
Your new gravatar pic wins today’s internet.
Sweet Gravatar… hmm for some reason the style reminds me of the cyborg lady from Dresden Codak
Never heard of it. Probably not my speed.
The first step for me: I like boys. 2) female bodybuilders and masc lesbians are sooo hot. 3) Where did all the cute guys go? Nowadays my pron file is exclusively masc lesbians and female bodybuilders, and a few trans women.
I find it surprising that Becky has not yet learned about the Church of Women Wearing Suits
so I clearly have twin blindness because I was like “wait, how’d Booster get over here when they were just with Sarah?”
oh hell no, I am not gonna be Danny
time to spin the roulette
meh, I’ll miss Joyce but I’ll willing to take disaster lesbian on the first reroll
As long as she’s never looked into the camera like Jim.
Becky, girls in suits are hot. That’s not queer or otherwise, that’s just a universal constant
Has Becky never seen that Herb Ritts photo of Michelle Pfeiffer in drag?
Nothing wrong with eating at Chick-Fil-A. They provide an excellent product at market prices and set the gold standard for efficiency and customer service. The workers are always very nice & helpful. It’s a shame people hate an excellent organization simply because the owner is a hateful prick.
People want their money not to go into the pockets of monsters but sadly I think there’s no businesses these days that doesn’t have it be the case.
People can decide if they want their money to help enrich hateful pricks. They have no responsibility to support the thousands of employees who work for those hateful pricks.
I think it’s perfectly valid for someone to opt out of spending their money at a business where they know the profits will ultimately go to someone who doesn’t share their values, regardless of their other business practices. There are many unethical companies that are difficult for individuals to choose not to support, either because there aren’t many other options or it’s the only option they can reasonably afford, but that’s not the case with Chick-Fil-A.
I do know someone who has a deal with their queer friend where every time he eats at a Chick-Fil-A he has to Venmo her $1.
Yeah, and after that, let’s go get dessert at KKK Haus. As long as it pleases me in the moment, who cares what consequences it has? /s
I don’t tell LGBTA people where to eat. They can eat where they want.
Yeah, I wouldn’t criticize LGBTQ people who want to eat there, but I’m also not going to argue it’s an excellent organization or it’s a shame people hate it.
Easy to say when you’re not the one in the fryer.
Fuck their product, fuck their gold standard, fuck their entire organization, their owner is a worthless prick.
I just said, its their choice. They are the ones who can decide their product selection and getting on them, the victim, makes you part of the problem not a solution.
I don’t give a shit what you “just said”, I wasn’t responding to you. I’m not “part of the problem” for shit talking your precious fucking chicken restaurant, you colonist.
You’re one of those “separate the art from the artist” types too ain’tcha.
And then the artist is Shadman
I was thinking JKR, but shadman is definitely somehow worse, lol
I forgot about the wizard books for a moment and thought JKR stood for John Keff Rennedy for some reason. Y’know, the iconic assassinated President who was also an artist.
Forgot booster was a twin for a moment and was gonna comment on their incredible speed
it’s true. No lesbian has ever been attracted to a lady in a suit. Impossible.
Don’t mind me, I’m just testing my ability to link (as well as checking out my current gravatar).
Now I will wait for the day when we see Becky going to a party in a long-skirted dress holding hands with Dina, who will be wearing a tuxedo.
Ran across this strip while looking for earlier chic-fil-a references. Found someone for Arnold to see while Sarah’s with Tony. It requires Sal and Danny breaking up though, Sal’s not up for a polycule.
nobody who has ever told me to watch the office has been able to tell me why it’s good
so many people have told me to watch it
I have not seen a single episode
The Office feels very much like the living hell of people you’re expected to be friendly to that is real life corporate America.
I wouldn’t really say that it’s good or that you’re missing out by not watching it but I WILL say that the first three seasons or so is a shockingly decent time capsule of 2003 corporate aesthetics. I think the movie “Melvin Goes to Dinner” might be the only other thing I’ve seen that really captures that specific turn of the century “professional design” in a non-exaggerated/nouveau riche way.
We’ll ease Becky into Awareness of Butches gently.
woah, new avatar. I like it.
Wait, why’s she referring to her mom? I don’t get it, unless it’s a suicide reference.
She believes her mom killed herself bc she was queer but stuck in or driven into a hetero marriage and is worried about repeating that scenario