I found DoA through Shortpacked!, but I found Shortpacked! because Willis and JJ did link swaps to each other, but their link text was them insulting each other… I honestly think it’s still like that, but I haven’t checked in ages lol
QC was big enough that I think if you were into webcomics at all back in the day you’re just going to be passively aware of it. Not quite Penny Arcade or XKCD levels but not far removed.
I love how, even if you know “Fuckface” is the name of the iguana, that still looks like you’re insulting someone for not being able to properly distinguish an iguana 😂
I know I found this comic directly before the timeskip (literally the last comic of the first semester with the big group shot. But as to how I found it… I genuinely have no idea. Maybe someone posted a link to it somewhere?
I think it depends on the character for me. Joyce and Jocelyne using largely “correct” grammar makes sense for them IMHO.
Whereas if someone were to write, say, Sonic the Hedgehog or Knuckles the Echidna using articulate grammar all the time (with occasional crumbs of slang, but from no later than 1969), it would just feel like the writer didn’t understand the characters at all.
Feels like this one does this, no? Guess it depends on if you think of “tunes” as, like, a collective uncountable concept, but I would generally think of it a countable noun (as opposed to “music,” for instance).
I’m not sure what Ana meant, but I was thinking of it in terms of how speakers do occasionally make grammar mistakes– not in using slang or dialects or not bothering with prescriptive rules, but in that sometimes you say something and it comes out slightly off. Like if you are saying multiple adjectives for something and they don’t come out in the typical order, and it sounds a little odd– you’d probably say it differently the next time or if you thought it through, but also whatever because it’s not that big a deal.
But also, that’s a level of reality I’m fine with losing in written media because it stands out more (to me at least).
given anarchism’s definitive opposition to social pyramids and especially the coercive means used to establish and perpetuate them, and socialism’s goal of ending capitalist coercion in particular,
anarchism is very much compatible with socialism, but not so much with social democracy, at least given the latter’s goal is merely to *reform* capitalism without long-term intent to see it abolished
I was going to suggest Joyce probably has a lot of Disney movie soundtracks, but actually I had an evangelical friend as a kid and he wasn’t allowed to watch most of those.
Too much magic and such. Talking animals were technically allowed but considered very iffy. I remember the day I brought home The Lion King on VHS (naturally banned, whatever newsletter his mom got this stuff from was VERY against visions of Holy Ghost Lion Dads and Baboon Shamanism). We basically planned a multi-stage whole heist to sneak him over to watch it.
That’s wild. I’ve heard from a friend who knew someone in that same boat, too. Many of my fundie-evangelical peers and I grew up on mostly just Disney/other old kids stuff (and no cable TV or internet, ofc) but I can see why the magical elements might make some people clutch their pearls.
The one that broke my brain was that he was explicitly forbidden from ever watching ET.
Sci-Fi was NOT banned in his house, because if it’s science (even fictional science) it isn’t magic. Even when it clearly IS magic; he was allowed to watch Star Wars, though personally I suspect that’s because his dad (much more chill than his mom; very Carol and Hank now that I think about it) was a Star Wars/Trek fan.
ET though? Apparently the evangelical scuttlebutt was that he represented Jesus. He heals people, comes back from the dead, ascends to the heavens, and I guess there was some popular artwork that depicted Jesus with a glowing heart.
And they weren’t offended that ET might be a metaphor for Jesus, they decided that the movie was literally saying Jesus was just an alien, and therefore blasphemous.
You can add invisible chars to your e-mail addy or if you have G-mail you can add digits to the end of the part in front of the @ to get a still-valid addy that will change your avvie.
Yes, I have been terrified for my Trans friends for the next 4 years (had to remove a sub-conscious typo of “tears”). I have more Trans friends than most people, because I have a habit of inviting homeless people into my home and a large proportion were Trans.
helpful reminder that an executive order can very easily be stricken down by federal judges as unconstitutional, even if it’s not gonna completely stop it it can at least by our homies and allies some time
the situation is VERY BAD, but not completely hopeless
in any case do not obey in advance
believe me in CA we’re are going to do EVERYTHING in our power to make sure trans, NB, queer and other vulnerable minorities are safe
even if and when that comes down to drawing a line in the sand 👀
Even they admit a lot of this requires changes in law, but they absolutely will go for maximum enforcement everywhere they can.
I’ve been studying the fundamentalist movement Willis here escaped from for decades. I know their shit, I know who wrote this, I know what they mean by it.
Big trip line will be if they start cancelling existing travel documents. Watch for that.
if we must go as to far as California and surrounding states becoming our own country, with our own economy, and even our own army and navy if need be, to protect the rights of vulnerable people seeking refuge, so be it
our human rights, are those we will protect by any means necessary ✊🏽
As much of a fighter as I am, I really don’t see Americans being willing to do that.
Straights wouldn’t even give up a chicken sandwich to stop funding anti-gay politics. They’re not about to give up the country.
Doesn’t mean don’t fight back, believe me, I’ve been in this a long time. We won last time, and that’s literally why they abandoned rational thought and empiricism to fight the fight again under new, dumber rules. I think we can win, but it’s gonna be a vicious, ugly fight, and it’ll depend upon keeping meaningful elections, which they absolutely want to eliminate (and are eliminating, anywhere they can).
I like how they claim its becose they care about women. They do horrible things to women, they don’t even want them to vote. They just think this will play well with gullible leftists of they use what they see as feminist buzzwords.
The Beatles put out a new single a couple years ago and the kpop fans went apoplectic and bought so many BTS singles it pushed the Beatles out of the top 10 completely.
A lot of the teenagers I know are going through a phase where they listen to the same pop-punk stuff that a lot of us grew up with, oddly enough? idk if it’s because the teen librarian is also in my age group or what, but I’m not complaining
I saw a kid today, a teen wearing an AC/DC Back in Black shirt. I was 15 when this came out in 1980. I am now 59. I’m not against it, its great to see the shirts, I just don’t get it. Its like if in 1980 I was wearing a T shirt for Johnny Ace or the Ink Spots.
By the sliding time scale, Rich Mullins and dctalk are college kids’ parents’ music. No idea what Christian or recently ex-Christian college kids listen to these days.
I have nothing constructive to add to the comment section, I just saw everyone else talking about the Gravatar pool getting re-rolled and I didn’t want to dig through the archives to see what my new roulette-assigned internet face is.
Despite coming out today, reading this comic feels like discovering a meme template which you’ve seen used for years and only just discovered the source. It just feels “meme template”.
What’s the etiquette of informing Willis of mistakes in this comic? I’ve never been early enough to catch one before. Or is it not a mistake and saying “pass time” instead of “pastime” is an American cultural difference?
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Happy Dummingversary to me and to anyone else who found DoA via questionablecontent.net filler ten years ago!
I found DoA through Shortpacked!, but I found Shortpacked! because Willis and JJ did link swaps to each other, but their link text was them insulting each other… I honestly think it’s still like that, but I haven’t checked in ages lol
I don’t recall when/how I got into QC, but I got into DoA when someone I know shared the “Girls Don’t Get Real Pockets?” strip.
QC was big enough that I think if you were into webcomics at all back in the day you’re just going to be passively aware of it. Not quite Penny Arcade or XKCD levels but not far removed.
Don’t know how true that is nowadays.
I am pretty sure the first webcomic I got into was Megatokyo, and still my favorite, sorry DYW and Jeph.
(And Megatokyo is still alive, if four story strips and two non-story strips in 2024 counts as alive.)
Although come to think of it I was into Girl Genius, Dork Tower, and PvP back when they were actual dead treeware comic books before any of the above.
It’d be nice if it’d update more than like two times per year. I’ve been waiting 15(?) years for Volume 7 to come out.
My gateway was Order of the Stick, and I thought it was updating slowly these days
Sadly, according to the DoA link in QC, Dave Willis no longer eats butts.
Too many preservatives in them these days.
I joined in 2014 by reference from Captain Cassidy’s blog.
Oh,no! I’m a lizard! I hate it.
that’s an iguana, Fuckface
change the capitalization of your email for a new gravitar
I love how, even if you know “Fuckface” is the name of the iguana, that still looks like you’re insulting someone for not being able to properly distinguish an iguana 😂
woop you’re right LOOOL XD
The real question is how do you distinguish an iguana improperly.
I know I found this comic directly before the timeskip (literally the last comic of the first semester with the big group shot. But as to how I found it… I genuinely have no idea. Maybe someone posted a link to it somewhere?
Real talk: grammatical perfection in fiction is unnatural, occasionally have grammar flubs in your dialogue to make it feel like real people talking
/said for no reason in particular
Me too
I’m a proofreader and intellectually I understand that, but it also makes my brain itchy. XD
I think it depends on the character for me. Joyce and Jocelyne using largely “correct” grammar makes sense for them IMHO.
Whereas if someone were to write, say, Sonic the Hedgehog or Knuckles the Echidna using articulate grammar all the time (with occasional crumbs of slang, but from no later than 1969), it would just feel like the writer didn’t understand the characters at all.
Feels like this one does this, no? Guess it depends on if you think of “tunes” as, like, a collective uncountable concept, but I would generally think of it a countable noun (as opposed to “music,” for instance).
Fully disagree.
Grammar exists to emulate speech. If you can say it, you can write it with proper grammar.
That includes slang and dialects.
I’m not sure what Ana meant, but I was thinking of it in terms of how speakers do occasionally make grammar mistakes– not in using slang or dialects or not bothering with prescriptive rules, but in that sometimes you say something and it comes out slightly off. Like if you are saying multiple adjectives for something and they don’t come out in the typical order, and it sounds a little odd– you’d probably say it differently the next time or if you thought it through, but also whatever because it’s not that big a deal.
But also, that’s a level of reality I’m fine with losing in written media because it stands out more (to me at least).
Only via circularly defining correct grammar to be “anything that is said”, which isn’t particularly *useful*.
To the contrary, I find it very useful.
Amy Grant and Rebecca St James will also get you made fun of, Joyce. 😛
Oh, that’s right, Willis ordered a new Search for Sal season. Let’s roll the dice!
Sure.
re: $80,
I’m ready with vodka, a thick Slavic accent, and desire to CRUSH CAPITALISM 😤
Alcohol does sound really, really nice right now.
Fuck yeah, new Grav!
Yes let’s overthrow laissez faire Capitalism and instate Social Democracy!
Have we really given anarchy a fair chance?
given anarchism’s definitive opposition to social pyramids and especially the coercive means used to establish and perpetuate them, and socialism’s goal of ending capitalist coercion in particular,
anarchism is very much compatible with socialism, but not so much with social democracy, at least given the latter’s goal is merely to *reform* capitalism without long-term intent to see it abolished
I was going to suggest Joyce probably has a lot of Disney movie soundtracks, but actually I had an evangelical friend as a kid and he wasn’t allowed to watch most of those.
Too much magic and such. Talking animals were technically allowed but considered very iffy. I remember the day I brought home The Lion King on VHS (naturally banned, whatever newsletter his mom got this stuff from was VERY against visions of Holy Ghost Lion Dads and Baboon Shamanism). We basically planned a multi-stage whole heist to sneak him over to watch it.
Joyce explicitly wasn’t allowed to watch Tangled and Frozen, so most likely not.
That’s wild. I’ve heard from a friend who knew someone in that same boat, too. Many of my fundie-evangelical peers and I grew up on mostly just Disney/other old kids stuff (and no cable TV or internet, ofc) but I can see why the magical elements might make some people clutch their pearls.
The one that broke my brain was that he was explicitly forbidden from ever watching ET.
Sci-Fi was NOT banned in his house, because if it’s science (even fictional science) it isn’t magic. Even when it clearly IS magic; he was allowed to watch Star Wars, though personally I suspect that’s because his dad (much more chill than his mom; very Carol and Hank now that I think about it) was a Star Wars/Trek fan.
ET though? Apparently the evangelical scuttlebutt was that he represented Jesus. He heals people, comes back from the dead, ascends to the heavens, and I guess there was some popular artwork that depicted Jesus with a glowing heart.
And they weren’t offended that ET might be a metaphor for Jesus, they decided that the movie was literally saying Jesus was just an alien, and therefore blasphemous.
I bet they loved The Life of Brian.
Was this before or after the highly unsuccessful call to boycott Disney for giving benefits to same sex partners of employees?
You don’t have to ideologically agree with music to enjoy it.
Slayer alone is four incompatible directions.
I get the sense that something is about to go horribly wrong, and for once that feeling has nothing to do with my personal life.
Any ideas what could/will happen, and how bad it will be?
Gravatar changes? Noooooooo…
Welp, the search begins anew.
No Billie/Jennifer thank you
Acceptable for tonight.
Quiter. We are doomed to search until achieving Sal.
Wait, these are mutable? How?
You can add invisible chars to your e-mail addy or if you have G-mail you can add digits to the end of the part in front of the @ to get a still-valid addy that will change your avvie.
Not sure if this works for non-Gmail users, but I personally re-roll the Gravs by changing the capitalization of various letters in my e-mail address.
liKe So!
Yeah, I’m thinking Becky’s a better fit. Might make another go tomorrow though.
Good luck!
I’ll say that’s probably a common feeling right now.
Yes, I have been terrified for my Trans friends for the next 4 years (had to remove a sub-conscious typo of “tears”). I have more Trans friends than most people, because I have a habit of inviting homeless people into my home and a large proportion were Trans.
How about a full declaration of war on trans, nonbinary, and intersex people today by the new administration?
That’s pretty bad.
helpful reminder that an executive order can very easily be stricken down by federal judges as unconstitutional, even if it’s not gonna completely stop it it can at least by our homies and allies some time
the situation is VERY BAD, but not completely hopeless
in any case do not obey in advance
believe me in CA we’re are going to do EVERYTHING in our power to make sure trans, NB, queer and other vulnerable minorities are safe
even if and when that comes down to drawing a line in the sand 👀
Even they admit a lot of this requires changes in law, but they absolutely will go for maximum enforcement everywhere they can.
I’ve been studying the fundamentalist movement Willis here escaped from for decades. I know their shit, I know who wrote this, I know what they mean by it.
Big trip line will be if they start cancelling existing travel documents. Watch for that.
if we must go as to far as California and surrounding states becoming our own country, with our own economy, and even our own army and navy if need be, to protect the rights of vulnerable people seeking refuge, so be it
our human rights, are those we will protect by any means necessary ✊🏽
As much of a fighter as I am, I really don’t see Americans being willing to do that.
Straights wouldn’t even give up a chicken sandwich to stop funding anti-gay politics. They’re not about to give up the country.
Doesn’t mean don’t fight back, believe me, I’ve been in this a long time. We won last time, and that’s literally why they abandoned rational thought and empiricism to fight the fight again under new, dumber rules. I think we can win, but it’s gonna be a vicious, ugly fight, and it’ll depend upon keeping meaningful elections, which they absolutely want to eliminate (and are eliminating, anywhere they can).
I like how they claim its becose they care about women. They do horrible things to women, they don’t even want them to vote. They just think this will play well with gullible leftists of they use what they see as feminist buzzwords.
What music is even hip with kids today? Billie Eilish?
The Beatles? That’s what the kids listen to; right?
The Beatles put out a new single a couple years ago and the kpop fans went apoplectic and bought so many BTS singles it pushed the Beatles out of the top 10 completely.
A lot of the teenagers I know are going through a phase where they listen to the same pop-punk stuff that a lot of us grew up with, oddly enough? idk if it’s because the teen librarian is also in my age group or what, but I’m not complaining
I saw a kid today, a teen wearing an AC/DC Back in Black shirt. I was 15 when this came out in 1980. I am now 59. I’m not against it, its great to see the shirts, I just don’t get it. Its like if in 1980 I was wearing a T shirt for Johnny Ace or the Ink Spots.
Recent students of mine love this song.
(Together Forever is better.)
Also he does a decent cover of “Everlong”
The kids weren’t requesting those.
I don’t know, I wasn’t hip with the music of the teens even when I was a teen.
Same. But then the Beatles improved.
Go meet Sal, and that one dude that hangs out with her, who’s name escapes Joyce.
Nightguy?
–
Never pasa the aux to Joyce. She will thank you for this later.
I have decided to believe that aux is Italian for ox.
I love how well Jocelyne knows her sister. Does Gravatar change mean we could get Jocelyne?
asldkfj that’d be so neat! (but hey, at least I’m Joyce’s *other* sister, hehe)
There has to be a Jocelyne one right? I mean even Lyle gets a grav and we only saw him like one time.
I had to check the wiki because I straight up could not remember who Lyle is despite having read both series he’s in like 5 times
Turns out there is a Jocelyne
Awww, I want to go back to being Blowjob Cat. 🙁
change the capitalization of your email 😉
Is Blowjob Cat still in the pool?
of course? why wouldn’t they be? XD
I hadn’t been seeing them, and I know sometimes new avatars replace older ones.
heck I saw Needfuldoer with them just yesterday LOL
Blowjob cat is easy. Sal is hard.
You could copy the picture you want and actually set it as your Gravatar; that way it could be the same even long after the current Gravatar cycle.
Yeah, I did that with the Bloodrose avatar after it got removed from the pool.
“woof $80!” is always a fun activity with friends.
Expensive after a while though.
Poor Jocelyn doesn’t realize Joyce may soon start to snark back.
By the sliding time scale, Rich Mullins and dctalk are college kids’ parents’ music. No idea what Christian or recently ex-Christian college kids listen to these days.
I have nothing constructive to add to the comment section, I just saw everyone else talking about the Gravatar pool getting re-rolled and I didn’t want to dig through the archives to see what my new roulette-assigned internet face is.
Sad Ethan! I think Ethan was one of my first ever gravs nearly a decade ago (MFW the passage of time) so this feels right.
Will Jocelyne see more of Joyce’s art? meet Sarah? None of the above and hi-jinx happen instead?
“yo pass the aux cord” “u better not play Rich Mullins” “…”
Need a new gravitar
No
Did you know Gravitar is the name of an Atari game
It came out in 1982 in arcades and was released on the 2600 the following year
I just realised I’ve been spelling Gravatar wrong which makes the connection to the video game far more tenuous
Maybe you’ve been spelling it right and the Gravatar people spelled it wrong.
I remember. I’m old.
Despite coming out today, reading this comic feels like discovering a meme template which you’ve seen used for years and only just discovered the source. It just feels “meme template”.
What’s the etiquette of informing Willis of mistakes in this comic? I’ve never been early enough to catch one before. Or is it not a mistake and saying “pass time” instead of “pastime” is an American cultural difference?
is cultural difference pretty sure
“Pass time” is short for “a way to pass time.” A pastime is an activity.
Hey I LIKE the mall! But my Mall is the Mall of America.
Someday Joyce will graduate to Skillet.
It’s all Js today
Sal achieved!!!