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“how did Joe know what question would rile up Joyce” When I dated someone who would Not Shut Up about cars, I once joked, “Hey look, it’s your *FAVOURITE* truck! CAB OVER ENGINE!”
That choice of ‘Bible fact’ is honestly hilarious.
The reason being, is each Gospel disagrees on the sash. In one, it’s Blue, in another it’s Red, and in another, it’s Purple. It’s in obvious point where the bible’s inconsistent, so Christians don’t discuss that fact, but if you ask them what color they envision the sash, you can tell which book they focused on more.
Joe and Joyce sorted the child drawing her mom dropped by. Then she explained how obsessed she was with the colors in the picture bible and how annoyed when somebody does that wrong.
I get the idea that Jocelyne is much less obsessive-manic than Joyce (and Jordan). And, being a writer, likely developed her “full linguistic fury” years ago.
Joyce is definitely making up for lost time. According to The Official DoA F-bomb Counter>, she’s currently in 7th place with 17 – and if we disregard Sal’s one-time eruption when the battery went dead on her Nintendo device while playing Mariokart, Joyce is in 6th and moving up steadily.
Hey, I remember that dress. When it first showed up in 2015 I was in high school and I found the whole affair just slightly frustrating and a little confusing. It was a trivial matter that somehow dominated the collective conversation, while cutting my community into two groups incapable of seeing the world the same way as the other, and gnawing at the idea of an identifiable objective truth.
Now it is 2024 and I kind of miss the dress, that damn’d black omen (or is it blue, white?).
Soundtrack Dissonance is something that should be used more frequently. Tiptoe Through The Tulips would be the perfect trailer theme for a horror game.
There’s actually a Harry Potter fanfic that has considerable violence where Tiptoe through the Tulips is used not exactly to torture someone but to try to put someone with incredible Occlumency powers, who is quite dangerous, out of commission.
If you’re happy and you know it, it’s a sin *tsk, tsk*
If you’re happy and you know it, it’s a sin *tsk, tsk*
If you’re happy and you know it, then the devil must have sown it,
If you’re happy and you know it, burn in h3ll! *tsk, tsk*
I think that’s the safe bet, so I’m going to go with something else. Like something where making every detail consistent is important, but also kind of impossible. Like he’s in a NRM or a Blake scholar. Or maybe he has schizophrenia. Sorry, less titillating than porn-lord. Didn’t know where my speculation was headed.
Amber and Dorothy took some time on that photo. Give it a while. We need the perfect Joyce/Joe/Jocelyne set up before the polished, posed, and spontaneous cleavage arrives.
yeah, and he would NOT have worn a robe and sandals.
In 1st century Galilea, commoners lived just above sustenance level and could only ever afford but one set of clothes; if Jesus was a carpenter, a loose robe and sandals AND a blue sash of all colors (blue dye was extremely expensive back then) would have been not only an unaffordable luxury but a very dangerous occupational hazard at the very least XD
He was described as a “tektōn” in Mark, the meaning of which isn’t entirely clear. The same is used in Matthew for Joseph, calling Jesus the “tektōn’s son”.
It’s some kind of building trade, probably wood rather than stone. I believe there’s debate over whether it would refer to a skilled craftsman or more of a laborer.
As for his clothes, Joyce is drawing on the Picture Bible here, which isn’t exactly a carefully researched depiction of the times. OTOH, while the loose robe and sandals might not have been appropriate for a laborer, by the time he’s pictured in that he seems to have not been working, but doing his ministry full time, so the occupation hazard doesn’t really seem to be a problem.
The blue would still have been unaffordable, unless it was a donation from a rich follower.
In Greek works of the time other than the New Testament, “tektōn” most commonly refers to carpenters, wood-workers, craftsmen in general, the point of occupational hazard of a robe/sandals still standing
likewise, this was a traditional economy, meaning that children where majorly obliged to adopt the occupations of their fathers, and I doubt a historical Jesus was any exception
Basically agreed, with the question only being what degree of skill and status it would have been.
And the point that he might have started dressing differently after leaving his occupation to become an itinerant preacher.
True, but historical art depicting him uses a lot of blue, just like for Mary. There was a period where you would commission religious art based on the amount of Lapis Lazuli you would need, so the most expensive dye was reserved for the holiest figures. It was a kind of conspicuous consumption.
If you want to see _REAL_ conspicuous consumption in art using Lapis Lazuli, check out the _Très Riches Heures of Jean Duc de Berry_ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr%C3%A8s_Riches_Heures_du_Duc_de_Berry). Not only is there crushed lapis in the numerous full-page illuminations, it’s also in the smaller ones and in the initials.
Jordan is the one closest in age to Joyce and Jocelyne graduated recently enough she still has friends who attend the school. So unless he ran away as a minor it can’t have been THAT long since Joyce has seen him. Though, she doesn’t seem to know much about him. It doesn’t sound like he keeps in touch with his parents, but Hank said even though they don’t agree much, Jordan is still a good kid and he said Joyce standing up to her parents about Dorothy and her family reminds him of Jordan.
And now we know he likes to draw and might also be autistic. If so I could see how he became estranged by his parents ‘squeezing too hard’ per Hank.
It’s a little iffy because of the wording here but by describing herself as the middle sibling here, it makes me think that the order is John, Jocelyne, Jordan, and Joyce. Hence why of the three “brothers”, she is the middle. Since Jocelyne has graduated college by this point, if we assume she has a bachelor’s and is therefore like… 24, 25, maybe 26 at the most, it does make me wonder what the age gap between Jordan and Joyce is.
There was one where Joyce was in her wonder woman costume and Joce took the two trick or treating. Jordan was older than Joyce but younger than Jocelyn
That’d be incredibly sad and would explain why Joyce apparently doesn’t know what Jordan does and was told she’d find out when she’s older. With the family being so religious, though, I get the feeling that they’d never institutionalize a family member. Surely whatever is causing Jordan’s upset could be healed with prayer, after all!
I don’t think that necessairly makes the theory incorrect.
Could have been involuntary and he held a grudge.
Though that may be me attempting to have evidence fit my theory.
A.: Green, with gold-tassel fringe. Just like my sister’s Girl Scout sash when I was a kid. I always wanted one, but got kicked out of the Brownies for “trouble with authority figures” … x-}
I don’t have a sash, but I’d go for purple, shot through with green. Although I guess if it’s a hypothetical sash anyway, I can just say I’d want it to be octarine.
I have had a sash. No; I have had multiple sashes.
First, when I was running a series of Klingon-themed parties, where I wore rose gold when everyone else had regular gold. The difference was because I was in command at the time.
(This is not Star Trek canon we just made it up. When I wasn’t running the party, someone else got the rose gold.)
Second, metallic green with black line undertones, when I was performing on stage as a supervillain turned musician. It was part of my supersuit and paired with a bronze quarter-cape. It was, frankly, pretty fucking stunning if I might say so myself.
I’ve had a green sash, a white sash with red arrows, bars and triangle, and a black sash with white. But I don’t remember if the black sash had the bars and triangle. It’s been many years.
When she’s not all uptight about coming out to Joyce, Jocelyne is a very cool, collected person. Much more centered than Joshua, who was clearly under a lot of stress back at Family Weekend (“The less they know about me the better.”)
Jordan is the demon possessing Joyce. Hank and Carol somehow came to love him, while still keeping Joyce from ever fully “meeting” him. The next chapter will explore the signs of his return in more depth, and that’s when the fully supernatural elements will start trickling in. Expect to see a lot of Werewolf Ethan, next autumn.
Since I studied Japanese quite a bit this year I’ve become fascinated by the ways people can use to identify, not just themselves but others. So it got me thinking, if DOA was translated into Japanese, what little language traits would pop up?
So here’s a tier list of what Honorifics I think Japanese Joyce would use for everyone. If anyone is well versed in Japanese or just a huge weeb let me know your opinion on these. Joyce’s Honorifics List
definitely not well-versed in japanese or just a huge weeb. definitely neither.
i agree on most of this! i think at some point dorothy would become either -chan or lose an honorific altogether (using -san would make becky feel superior in her closeness). carla would want to be called senpai or maybe even -sama lmao
tan isn’t very common. From what I’ve heard it’s kind of an overly cutesy approximation of “chan” that’s not used much in colloquial speech. My idea with Becky is that Joyce has known her SO long that she might not use honorifics at all because they’re very close and honorifics might seem like an unnecessary pleasantry.
I fully agree in some contexts they’d skip it, but I think it’d be a little… too much out and about. Something would be there. I’m pretty sure.
(I mean I was so nervous about it when in Japan that I never dropped below chan ever but … -tan is cutesy, yes? But Japan fucking loves cute and I’m pretty sure I heard it in real life at least a couple of times.)
I just want to say that I love this thread and that (combined with getting power and internet back after a few days following a big windstorm and so being kinda starved for online communication) is why I’m going off so much about it.
When it comes to Jordan it feels like he hasn’t been around Joyce that much to the point he was either a lot older than Joyce (like at least a decade) and never looked back when he was old enough to leave OR was out of the house before he was 18.
So if that was the case/the age difference is far less than ten years was he sent to live with like an Aunt/Uncle for some undisclosed reason? Did he get the Sal treatment and get sent to a boarding school? This small nugget makes me wonder if neurodivergence was a reason for him being out of the house which is…. Concerning. Technically me leaping to conclusions but still.
From an early comment of Jocelyne’s describing herself as “the middle brother” and a patreon appearance of Jordan, we know that Jordan was between Jocelyne and Joyce, which either makes it very weird that Joyce doesn’t know what happened or that Jordan left concerningly young.
It is possible that Joyce wasn’t that young but was still kept out of the loop somehow. Maybe Jordan went off to college freshman year, had his conflict with the parents essentially remotely and never returned?
Did you include “of Nazareth” specifically so you wouldn’t have to worry about the annoying question of exactly what the possessive form of “Jesus” is? Because if so, that’s genius.
I’m assuming it’s because Joe is Jewish and isn’t going to call him Christ, but wants to push Joyce’s buttons.
And as a proper noun it would be just Jesus’, although Jesus’s is gaining acceptance. Technically it’s probably even more correct, since the “‘s” there is doing the same work as the apostrophe in “don’t”–representing a missing letter. It’s just that the possessive is a remnant of the old Old English genitive ending -es, which isn’t really used for anything _but_ the possessive anymore except for fossilized instances such as our pronouns in English.
I would have to go back and look at the manuscript/print switchover because a lot of what we use the apostrophe for was either for space-saving reasons or to converse particular letters when setting type.
Or perhaps it’s a secret easter egg, and we’ll learn that time-displased Yeshua also works at a toy store at some point. Probably around three or four strips before Dumbing of Age ends.
Me too Joyce. Me too. I mean not about sashes, but god help me I said with my own human mouth “Me talking for five straight minutes IS me Not Getting Into It”.
Also, John, the eldest sibling, is a missionary who is returning to India with his wife sometime in January (this chapter takes place on Jan 27th).
Possibly. Or he’s a big faker.
just waiting for the next page or so when that text back from Dotty comes crashing in and Joyce’s little brain implodes with bi thoughts. bi thots if you will. ~<3
I love this comic, but I have to admit…”It’s blue or I’ll fucking cut you” is the hardest I’ve laughed over the comic in a long time. Just so aggressively out of left field, I positively love it.
I have deeper thoughts about yesterdays strip but this is just nice
I’m so happy that Jocelyne just gets to have her first time being herself around Joyce be so casual, it’s so nice
(Also it’s gonna be very funny if Joyce has her bi awakening in front of Jocelyne, frankly Jocelyne deserves to have that level of smug older sister moment)
Jordan is Joyce’s older brother, who is low- to no-contact with the family. (Maybe slightly more in contact with Jocelyne.) We know he likes to draw, and he’s the second-youngest of the four siblings.
I like to think he followed an accelerated version of Joyce’s awakening, a bit earlier than she did.
I tried reading The Hobbit aloud to my wife, singing the songs to the tunes I thought they went well with. My wife, however, had seen the Rankin-Bass version of The Hobbit, so she told me I was singing the songs wrong.
So do we think Jordan was ALSO autistic and his parents started treating him badly for being “weird” and that’s what started whatever happened with him?
Which made for some weird reading for me as I’ve been coming to accept I am alsoo autistic (well probably AuDHD, I’m going to pursue offical diagnosis in the new year).
And as I was reading these today UI was sorting my Sweettarts by color and stacking them just so to create diagonal color stripes. I’ve actively been looking for the fourth wall to make a pointed look a
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the Jordan is coming from INSIDE THE JOYCE
“how did Joe know what question would rile up Joyce” When I dated someone who would Not Shut Up about cars, I once joked, “Hey look, it’s your *FAVOURITE* truck! CAB OVER ENGINE!”
Friend: “How do you know that?”
Me: “How do I NOT know that??”
He’s known her for a while, and it’s not like she’s shy about her bible opinions
That choice of ‘Bible fact’ is honestly hilarious.
The reason being, is each Gospel disagrees on the sash. In one, it’s Blue, in another it’s Red, and in another, it’s Purple. It’s in obvious point where the bible’s inconsistent, so Christians don’t discuss that fact, but if you ask them what color they envision the sash, you can tell which book they focused on more.
Joe and Joyce sorted the child drawing her mom dropped by. Then she explained how obsessed she was with the colors in the picture bible and how annoyed when somebody does that wrong.
Damn, nice recall.
I like that Joyce uses swears freely now, but I can’t help but think that this would have been a perfect First F-Bomb.
It has to be the first time Jocelyne hears a swear from Joyce which is almost as funny.
It’s the first one in front of Jocelyne, and she didn’t even flinch.
Joyce has grown up so fast!
I get the idea that Jocelyne is much less obsessive-manic than Joyce (and Jordan). And, being a writer, likely developed her “full linguistic fury” years ago.
Joyce is definitely making up for lost time. According to The Official DoA F-bomb Counter>, she’s currently in 7th place with 17 – and if we disregard Sal’s one-time eruption when the battery went dead on her Nintendo device while playing Mariokart, Joyce is in 6th and moving up steadily.
holy fuck, she really going full in on the mania for sure then
Good to get some Jordan lore after all these years
This is only further evidence that Jordan’s crime was something super tame.
Dumbing of Age Book 15: IT’S BLUE OR I’LL FUCKING CUT YOU
Hey, I remember that dress. When it first showed up in 2015 I was in high school and I found the whole affair just slightly frustrating and a little confusing. It was a trivial matter that somehow dominated the collective conversation, while cutting my community into two groups incapable of seeing the world the same way as the other, and gnawing at the idea of an identifiable objective truth.
Now it is 2024 and I kind of miss the dress, that damn’d black omen (or is it blue, white?).
Gold.
Thanks. That made me smile.
Saw a post on Bluesky the other week where someone found one in a charity shop somewhere
What color was it?
This one was blue and black
The Dress was always blue and black. Bad lighting and a crappy phone camera sensor just made it look weird.
No, please, don’t bring that “is this dress blue or yellow” again hahah
We’re ignoring the real question: what colour dress would Jesus have worn?
off-white bc what Jewish carpenter had dye back then
Pink, cuz He’s a pretty fuckin’ princess.
She’s a violent little girl.
Jordan’s a maniac confirmed.
But does he do it on the floor?
Side note: why does that song sound like it should belong in a campy slasher flick?
Soundtrack Dissonance is something that should be used more frequently. Tiptoe Through The Tulips would be the perfect trailer theme for a horror game.
I’d be surprised if it isn’t used at some point in the Terrifier body of works
There’s actually a Harry Potter fanfic that has considerable violence where Tiptoe through the Tulips is used not exactly to torture someone but to try to put someone with incredible Occlumency powers, who is quite dangerous, out of commission.
Isn’t that what the creepy, slow renditions of nursery rhymes are for?
Maybe “Having A Wonderful Time,” (I think that’s the title) would work too!
I like how Jocelyne isn’t even flinching at the swears
She did say “I swear now” and such and is happy enough that she accepted her as a sister
I wonder if Jordan also hates food touching so much just ordering a salad is difficult?
Oooh, I see what Jordan did to become so cutoff from his family.
He became a webcomic creator.
“if you’re happy and you know, it’s a SIN” XD
If you’re happy and you know it, it’s a sin *tsk, tsk*
If you’re happy and you know it, it’s a sin *tsk, tsk*
If you’re happy and you know it, then the devil must have sown it,
If you’re happy and you know it, burn in h3ll! *tsk, tsk*
you beat me to it
gj tho xD
Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
— H. L. Mencken
Jordan is a webcomic porn lord confirmed?
Well, now I want to see both Joyce’s Slipshine porn AND Jordan’s too.
For comparison’s purposes, of course. Just to see the siblings’ similarities.
I think that’s the safe bet, so I’m going to go with something else. Like something where making every detail consistent is important, but also kind of impossible. Like he’s in a NRM or a Blake scholar. Or maybe he has schizophrenia. Sorry, less titillating than porn-lord. Didn’t know where my speculation was headed.
I want Jordan to be a Furry but he probably won’t be.
like, a solid maybe?
Fundie Christian or not, queer-phobia and furry-phobia often go hand-in-hand
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don’t often laugh out loud at these comments, but when I do, it’s comments like this.
Jordan is Willis’s self-insert.
Where’s the ding dong text ding? How is she going to get that horny smile in front of these two without the picture?
Perhaps Dorothy also has trouble sending photos to the correct recipient?
“Oops, I sent my lewdie to the IDS features desk.”
Daisy: “Well, it’s no Amazi-Rack, but it’ll do.” *lip bite*
Amber and Dorothy took some time on that photo. Give it a while. We need the perfect Joyce/Joe/Jocelyne set up before the polished, posed, and spontaneous cleavage arrives.
Jesus wore a sash? Like a prom queen?
In all seriousness, I doubt Jesus would have gone in for a sash, much less a richly dyed one.
I can’t speak to historical fashion trends, but he’s frequently depicted with one
yeah, and he would NOT have worn a robe and sandals.
In 1st century Galilea, commoners lived just above sustenance level and could only ever afford but one set of clothes; if Jesus was a carpenter, a loose robe and sandals AND a blue sash of all colors (blue dye was extremely expensive back then) would have been not only an unaffordable luxury but a very dangerous occupational hazard at the very least XD
Stone cutter. Joseph was the carpenter.
Yeah, and presumably he was raised to take on his stepfather’s trade
He was described as a “tektōn” in Mark, the meaning of which isn’t entirely clear. The same is used in Matthew for Joseph, calling Jesus the “tektōn’s son”.
It’s some kind of building trade, probably wood rather than stone. I believe there’s debate over whether it would refer to a skilled craftsman or more of a laborer.
As for his clothes, Joyce is drawing on the Picture Bible here, which isn’t exactly a carefully researched depiction of the times. OTOH, while the loose robe and sandals might not have been appropriate for a laborer, by the time he’s pictured in that he seems to have not been working, but doing his ministry full time, so the occupation hazard doesn’t really seem to be a problem.
The blue would still have been unaffordable, unless it was a donation from a rich follower.
In Greek works of the time other than the New Testament, “tektōn” most commonly refers to carpenters, wood-workers, craftsmen in general, the point of occupational hazard of a robe/sandals still standing
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3Dte%2Fktwn
likewise, this was a traditional economy, meaning that children where majorly obliged to adopt the occupations of their fathers, and I doubt a historical Jesus was any exception
Basically agreed, with the question only being what degree of skill and status it would have been.
And the point that he might have started dressing differently after leaving his occupation to become an itinerant preacher.
True, but historical art depicting him uses a lot of blue, just like for Mary. There was a period where you would commission religious art based on the amount of Lapis Lazuli you would need, so the most expensive dye was reserved for the holiest figures. It was a kind of conspicuous consumption.
If you want to see _REAL_ conspicuous consumption in art using Lapis Lazuli, check out the _Très Riches Heures of Jean Duc de Berry_ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr%C3%A8s_Riches_Heures_du_Duc_de_Berry). Not only is there crushed lapis in the numerous full-page illuminations, it’s also in the smaller ones and in the initials.
Those looks from Joe, especially panel 4, dude is absolutely in love.
Yep, that’s the “I love my partner’s quirks and will now tweak them about it” look if I’ve ever seen it.
I am happy to see Joe at this stage. This might be the first time for him!
Is Jordan a preexisting character?
Have they been among us all along?
Jordan has been mentioned a few times. John (the oldest) has been mentioned the least. We’ve only seen Joyce and Jocelyne.
(Note all the names start with “Jo”. And now Joyce is dating “Joe”.)
John has been seen before, during Joyce and Becky’s lunch with him and Jocelyn. Jordan has been mentioned but not made any appearances.
Whoa. That’s been a while since I’ve seen that. Totally forgot that arc from (checks time-date) 8 years ago. :O
John’s got his mother’s snobbery, I see.
Jordan is the one closest in age to Joyce and Jocelyne graduated recently enough she still has friends who attend the school. So unless he ran away as a minor it can’t have been THAT long since Joyce has seen him. Though, she doesn’t seem to know much about him. It doesn’t sound like he keeps in touch with his parents, but Hank said even though they don’t agree much, Jordan is still a good kid and he said Joyce standing up to her parents about Dorothy and her family reminds him of Jordan.
And now we know he likes to draw and might also be autistic. If so I could see how he became estranged by his parents ‘squeezing too hard’ per Hank.
I had assumed Jordan was the second oldest? Was it mentioned in a Patreon strip that he was younger than Jocelyne?
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/undeclared/
It’s a little iffy because of the wording here but by describing herself as the middle sibling here, it makes me think that the order is John, Jocelyne, Jordan, and Joyce. Hence why of the three “brothers”, she is the middle. Since Jocelyne has graduated college by this point, if we assume she has a bachelor’s and is therefore like… 24, 25, maybe 26 at the most, it does make me wonder what the age gap between Jordan and Joyce is.
There was one where Joyce was in her wonder woman costume and Joce took the two trick or treating. Jordan was older than Joyce but younger than Jocelyn
Yeah, I thought Jordan was the second oldest too until that one.
I wonder if Jordan got institutionalized because he couldn’t handle… being.
That’d be incredibly sad and would explain why Joyce apparently doesn’t know what Jordan does and was told she’d find out when she’s older. With the family being so religious, though, I get the feeling that they’d never institutionalize a family member. Surely whatever is causing Jordan’s upset could be healed with prayer, after all!
I don’t think so, I don’t remember clearly but I think it was implied he is very estranged from the family and stays away
I don’t think that necessairly makes the theory incorrect.
Could have been involuntary and he held a grudge.
Though that may be me attempting to have evidence fit my theory.
He could also be in the “poor man’s institution” – prison.
the sash is definitely purple btw
Oh it is cuttin’ time
It’s fuckin’ cuttin’ time!
If we’re getting Jordan lore, it might as well be thru bits and bobs. Or myths.
Weeks? How long til she gets on Willis’ level
I’ve been wondering this for a while, but… What the hell is that on Joe’s shirt? A fried egg that stole Jesus of Nazareth’s sash?
Holy shit i never payed attention to that what the hell is it
Canned ham.
I’m think sunset with a boat on it
Sylvan Lake T-Shirt?
Calm waters (maybe a lake), with sailboat, and sun on horizon (probably sunset).
Would anyone like to play a question game?
Q.: What color is YOUR sash?
(And if you don’t currently have a sash, what color WOULD your sash be?)
Bonus points: Why?
I can start.
A.: Green, with gold-tassel fringe. Just like my sister’s Girl Scout sash when I was a kid. I always wanted one, but got kicked out of the Brownies for “trouble with authority figures” … x-}
Sunglasses inside, a pack of Jolly Ranchers rolled up in your sleeve, crayola marker tats on your arms…
You got me! Exactly!
I don’t have a sash, but I’d go for purple, shot through with green. Although I guess if it’s a hypothetical sash anyway, I can just say I’d want it to be octarine.
It’s been more than 50 years since I had a sash, but it was Boy Scout Green, and red before that.
Love it!
Oooh, great choice! (Which I accidentally typed as “Great joyce!” D’oh…)
Ok, now you inspired me to want a SECOND sash:
International Klein Blue!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Klein_Blue
Ooh! With infrared highlights!
And an invisibility shield bubble to camouflage the wearer!
Whoa…
Lovely Octarine concepts…
https://www.pinterest.com/martine_e1/octarine/
I have had a sash. No; I have had multiple sashes.
First, when I was running a series of Klingon-themed parties, where I wore rose gold when everyone else had regular gold. The difference was because I was in command at the time.
(This is not Star Trek canon we just made it up. When I wasn’t running the party, someone else got the rose gold.)
Second, metallic green with black line undertones, when I was performing on stage as a supervillain turned musician. It was part of my supersuit and paired with a bronze quarter-cape. It was, frankly, pretty fucking stunning if I might say so myself.
I still have the supersuit. xD
WOW! 🤯
pix or it didn’t happen
Quake in fear, puny mortal.
(I have infuriatingly few stage photos in it, and none of them are any good. But I do still have it.
)
QAPLAH!
At the big local SF con (Norwescon), for years local fans did something called Klingon Karaoke.
I always wanted to follow it with Romulan Rock Band but I never could get anyone to volunteer their equipment. xxD
I’ve had a green sash, a white sash with red arrows, bars and triangle, and a black sash with white. But I don’t remember if the black sash had the bars and triangle. It’s been many years.
So cool! Was there a symbolism to the design?
Yellow ^^
I dunno it just one of my favorite colors shared with a lot of things I love (pikachu, sunshine, bees, mustard…)
So yellowy mellowy!
My sash would be non-binary flag colors
and DRAGONS.
I don’t think i need to say why
Totally normal.
Just like Jennifer.
When she’s not all uptight about coming out to Joyce, Jocelyne is a very cool, collected person. Much more centered than Joshua, who was clearly under a lot of stress back at Family Weekend (“The less they know about me the better.”)
Why is Jocelyne not shocked by her sister’s deft dropping of an F-bomb?
Joyce already informed her that she swears now.
Joyce it’s clearly white and gold
I’m definitely coming around to Team Joe now
Love Joe’s cocky ass smile in panel 4
Willis you forgot to tag Jordan
He’s right there in Panel 5, Jocelyne even says “there’s Jordan” and everything
Jordan is Joyce’s repressed alter.
Jordan is the demon possessing Joyce. Hank and Carol somehow came to love him, while still keeping Joyce from ever fully “meeting” him. The next chapter will explore the signs of his return in more depth, and that’s when the fully supernatural elements will start trickling in. Expect to see a lot of Werewolf Ethan, next autumn.
Other way around. Jordan is older, so Joyce is the one possessing him.
Since I studied Japanese quite a bit this year I’ve become fascinated by the ways people can use to identify, not just themselves but others. So it got me thinking, if DOA was translated into Japanese, what little language traits would pop up?
So here’s a tier list of what Honorifics I think Japanese Joyce would use for everyone. If anyone is well versed in Japanese or just a huge weeb let me know your opinion on these.
Joyce’s Honorifics List
definitely not well-versed in japanese or just a huge weeb. definitely neither.
i agree on most of this! i think at some point dorothy would become either -chan or lose an honorific altogether (using -san would make becky feel superior in her closeness). carla would want to be called senpai or maybe even -sama lmao
Carla is defo sama
I could see Joyce calling Carla Senpai, especially after she gets the jugs. But Carla would constantly insist on Joyce calling her Sama.
This is exactly correct. Senpai after the jug boots, Carla expecting Sama from, well, you know. Everyone. xD
hm hm hm
no -tan?
Becky would’ve definitely been -tan first quarter.
And I’d be going “countdown to Dorothy-tan in 5… 4… 3…” all this time xD
Semester. Not quarter. IU is semesters. Right. Those things. You know.
I don’t mean when they’re alone or with very good friends but, you know, walking to class and stuff.
tan isn’t very common. From what I’ve heard it’s kind of an overly cutesy approximation of “chan” that’s not used much in colloquial speech. My idea with Becky is that Joyce has known her SO long that she might not use honorifics at all because they’re very close and honorifics might seem like an unnecessary pleasantry.
I fully agree in some contexts they’d skip it, but I think it’d be a little… too much out and about. Something would be there. I’m pretty sure.
(I mean I was so nervous about it when in Japan that I never dropped below chan ever but … -tan is cutesy, yes? But Japan fucking loves cute and I’m pretty sure I heard it in real life at least a couple of times.)
I like how Becky and Walky both get no honorifics for opposing reasons – Becky through complete familiarity, Walky through complete disdain.
the walky part is hilarious
bodyslam every time she says his name xD
Haha you nailed it!
Becky: I love you like a sister so we don’t need traditional honorifics
Walky: I don’t respect you.
I just want to say that I love this thread and that (combined with getting power and internet back after a few days following a big windstorm and so being kinda starved for online communication) is why I’m going off so much about it.
No way she uses an honorific with Dorothy. Especially not after laundry but probably before that.
well
maybe -senpai
i mean
dorothy did teach her something xD
What’s the common honorific for a sister? I feel like Sarah would have that.
I believe it’d be oneechan. So Sarah-oneechan.
Typically you’re gonna go with jiisan, of the yuri I’ve read is anything to go by.
I feel like “swearing Joyce” needs it’s own tag
Tags: Jocelyne, Joe, Joyce, Joyce’s swears.
Like in one of the Discworld stories: whenever one of the wizards swears, some sad little monster pops into existence and flutters away.
i half expect joyce to have her phone off all arc if not only notice dorothy’s pic at the very end of things/last strip of the story line
Surely you don’t think Willis would tease us so cruelly like that?
(yeah he totally would)
I’m just glad that Joyce was too busy being a fundie as a kid to end up on Amino in a fandom
Are we going to FINALLY get JORDAN LORE???
I hope so, Jocelyne wasn’t exactly a revelation to the audience, so … yeah, that’d be nice.
When it comes to Jordan it feels like he hasn’t been around Joyce that much to the point he was either a lot older than Joyce (like at least a decade) and never looked back when he was old enough to leave OR was out of the house before he was 18.
So if that was the case/the age difference is far less than ten years was he sent to live with like an Aunt/Uncle for some undisclosed reason? Did he get the Sal treatment and get sent to a boarding school? This small nugget makes me wonder if neurodivergence was a reason for him being out of the house which is…. Concerning. Technically me leaping to conclusions but still.
From an early comment of Jocelyne’s describing herself as “the middle brother” and a patreon appearance of Jordan, we know that Jordan was between Jocelyne and Joyce, which either makes it very weird that Joyce doesn’t know what happened or that Jordan left concerningly young.
It is possible that Joyce wasn’t that young but was still kept out of the loop somehow. Maybe Jordan went off to college freshman year, had his conflict with the parents essentially remotely and never returned?
Did you include “of Nazareth” specifically so you wouldn’t have to worry about the annoying question of exactly what the possessive form of “Jesus” is? Because if so, that’s genius.
I’m assuming it’s because Joe is Jewish and isn’t going to call him Christ, but wants to push Joyce’s buttons.
And as a proper noun it would be just Jesus’, although Jesus’s is gaining acceptance. Technically it’s probably even more correct, since the “‘s” there is doing the same work as the apostrophe in “don’t”–representing a missing letter. It’s just that the possessive is a remnant of the old Old English genitive ending -es, which isn’t really used for anything _but_ the possessive anymore except for fossilized instances such as our pronouns in English.
I would have to go back and look at the manuscript/print switchover because a lot of what we use the apostrophe for was either for space-saving reasons or to converse particular letters when setting type.
Or perhaps it’s a secret easter egg, and we’ll learn that time-displased Yeshua also works at a toy store at some point. Probably around three or four strips before Dumbing of Age ends.
Because Jésus is a latino name :V
Me too Joyce. Me too. I mean not about sashes, but god help me I said with my own human mouth “Me talking for five straight minutes IS me Not Getting Into It”.
about video game yakuza men
Jocelyne: Oh you swear now. Cool.
Previous Jordan mentions (only doing 2 links, to avoid auto-moderation)
https://www.dumbingofage.com/undeclared/
https://www.dumbingofage.com/squeezing-2/
/laws/
/trickortreating/
/cablenews/
And May 2019 patreon bonus strip (link on /seeyou/)
I am so fascinated. Yesterday? Didn’t even remember Jordan existed. Today? Gotta know all there is about Jordan, it has awakened my *obsessive mania*!
Also, John, the eldest sibling, is a missionary who is returning to India with his wife sometime in January (this chapter takes place on Jan 27th).
Possibly. Or he’s a big faker.
just waiting for the next page or so when that text back from Dotty comes crashing in and Joyce’s little brain implodes with bi thoughts. bi thots if you will. ~<3
I thought it was purple.
Imperial purple for the “King of Kings”? Makes perfect sense.
Most of the pictures I find online nowadays are red, with blue and purple being tied for distant second.
It’s come up before. It’s from the Picture Bible Joyce (and Willis) grew up with.
Oh fuck, I remember that now.
Damn, plotting *is* important.
Jesus h christ inna blue sash, Jocelyne has the same ugg boot style as Joyce.
I love this comic, but I have to admit…”It’s blue or I’ll fucking cut you” is the hardest I’ve laughed over the comic in a long time. Just so aggressively out of left field, I positively love it.
Joyce doesn’t have _any_ obsessive mania at all.
Nope, none.
I’m so interested in Jordan coming back up.
As Jocelyne, I believe it will take more 10 years to Jordan appears
Robin and Joyce have a shared love of the picture bible sash.
I have deeper thoughts about yesterdays strip but this is just nice
I’m so happy that Jocelyne just gets to have her first time being herself around Joyce be so casual, it’s so nice
(Also it’s gonna be very funny if Joyce has her bi awakening in front of Jocelyne, frankly Jocelyne deserves to have that level of smug older sister moment)
Cleavage arrival in 5…4…3…
“Blue, because it sets off His eyes wonderfully!”
This plot line is brought to you by the letter J.
John, Jocelyne, Jordan, and Joyce. Not just “J” but “JO” too.
Listen the Jo- namespace is a good one don’t judge.
(And don’t forget Joe right there, too)
It’s fate. They’re destined to be together by their very names.
Who’s Jordan?
Oldest sibling, I think. We’ve never seen him.
Whoops, correction: The second brother. John’s the first (and is married); Jordan’s the second. Then Jocelyne and Joyce are the sisters.
Second brother, but third sibling. Jordan’s between Jocelyne and Joyce.
Jocelyne referred to herself as “middle brother” Family Weekend and there’s a Patreon strip showing her taking Jordan and Joyce trick or treating.
Ahh, yes! John, Jocelyne, Jordan, and Joyce. (Lots of “JO” names with the sibs)
Jordan is Joyce’s older brother, who is low- to no-contact with the family. (Maybe slightly more in contact with Jocelyne.) We know he likes to draw, and he’s the second-youngest of the four siblings.
I like to think he followed an accelerated version of Joyce’s awakening, a bit earlier than she did.
I know it’s days later, but I found the one where Joyce says she copied Jordan’s drawings when she was little:
https://www.dumbingofage.com/pickup/
Hi, archive-bingers of the future!
At this point of history, a collective illusion.
-gasp- Joyce Fuck count+1
“Mon dieu! Sacre Bleu!”
Hey, I thought DoA was supposed to keep up with the real-life present time. How are there still newspapers?
/s and
How else are students gonna get their free Goku nudes?
… just praising Jocelyne
I tried reading The Hobbit aloud to my wife, singing the songs to the tunes I thought they went well with. My wife, however, had seen the Rankin-Bass version of The Hobbit, so she told me I was singing the songs wrong.
When I finally saw the cartoon, I realized she was right. Down, Down, to Goblin Town is an absolute banger. https://youtu.be/WTIw5Sx_kAU?si=PiszSujZCbNe5xCK
“It’s blue, or I’ll fucking cut you.”
It’s a good book title, Willis. Just sayin’
And the cover had no blue on it whatsoever
I’d never choose a title I’d have to cover up the f-bomb for at a convention table though, sadly.
“Life finds a way…”
The cover has no words. Just Joyce dressed as Peter, with her sword drawn and this look on her face.
There’s a big cut running through the word “fucking”
For reals I love OG Jurassic Park, featuring the greatest trans icon in all of film history! ^^
Has anyone noticed that Joyce is NOT getting texted nudes?
Which means that Dorothy is probably sending them to someone else by accident?
maybe she’s ABOUT to get the message?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So do we think Jordan was ALSO autistic and his parents started treating him badly for being “weird” and that’s what started whatever happened with him?
Looking more and more like Jordan was the first crack in the Brown household.
Hehe, that’s my name.
Holy shit, Jesus of Nazareth reads this comic?
I’m beginning to REALLY like Jocelyne.
“I Have a Very Normal Mania” for next book title.
Finally caught up for the first time since 2020…
Which made for some weird reading for me as I’ve been coming to accept I am alsoo autistic (well probably AuDHD, I’m going to pursue offical diagnosis in the new year).
And as I was reading these today UI was sorting my Sweettarts by color and stacking them just so to create diagonal color stripes. I’ve actively been looking for the fourth wall to make a pointed look a
There’s something about the perspective that makes the second panel very Homestuck. I think it’s largely the boots.