This is one of those scenes where I’m both very conscious that Dina is a fictional character, but also extremely impressed with her in a real-feeling way.
I knew a guy like this in the army. A true grey-man. Dude could move in and out of groups and places and it’d be anywhere between 5min and an hour before people noticed uf he was or wasn’t present.
The fun little loophole, though, is that you need to be in possession of pirated material to commit that crime. If you are streaming pirated material and the actual file is never on a device you own, you are not committing a crime, you are merely benefitting from somebody *else* committing that crime. If a graffiti artist defaces an ugly wall with a beautiful mural without the permission of the owner or anybody else who would need to give approval for a public mural, and you drive across town to see it when you normally wouldn’t be in that part of town, and even snap a picture of it to save as your phone wallpaper and share on social media, you are benefitting from crime but doing nothing illegal. Same thing if you enjoy pirated media but never actually possess or distribute pirated media.
Also, because pirating media is so easy, unless you’re actively burning DVDs and selling them to people, it isn’t worth the corporation’s time to go after everyone who Pirates movies and music for their own personal use. They would spend far more in legal fees than they would ever get out of mostly broke college students.
And every time they pay a developer good money to come up with new DRM, a wave of passionate and possibly autistic hackers deacend upon the new DRM, strip it to the bone and leave it’s defeated corpse on the corporation’s doorstep as a warning to others. Lol
Uh, no. That isn’t how streaming media works. When you stream a video, your computer still downloads that video file. The only difference with streaming is that instead of waiting for the complete file to download before viewing, you watch it as the data flows in and then discard the data shortly after. You still download and possess the entire video, just not all at the same time.
i mean, if she did get caught maybe you’d get in less trouble for leaving money versus just stealing on top of it, but would’ve been a power move to just have taken joyce’s wallet without noticing and paying with /her/ money
Altho i wish i could be invisible to random ppl on the street but otherwise going ‘unnoticed’ would be more of a pain compared to just looking underage depending on the situation. or if ppl are so ‘forgettable’ they can order food and just dine and dash xD
I was about to call this a fib, when I realized that it could be read to ways:
I first read it as “a half-mile, which was from A to B, and then back the same way in 3 minutes”, which would have been way faster than the world record for the mile.
Now I believe you meant “a half-mile, which was from A to B and back, in three minutes”, which is totally believable.
We also don’t know how long Becky and Joyce have been bickering about this since the last page. I once checked for walky-related reasons and the estimated walking distance from Read Hall to the village pantry down the block and across the street is 5 minutes according to google maps. 5 minutes there, 5 minutes back, and probably around 5 minutes to get to the front exit makes it roughly 15 minutes, give or take a bit for getting whatever you get inside. Having said that, if she didn’t take the elevator to the ground level and instead took the stairs down to the second level where there’s a side exit we’ve seen them take a few times, that could shave off 2-3 minutes, and if she ran or jogged to the village pantry and back, then you could easily shave off 2-3 minutes of travel time either way.
Joyce and Becky aren’t standing in the same position anymore, suggesting at least some time has passed, and both are known to stubbornly bicker and hold onto things way longer than is reasonable, especially with each other. They could easily have been at this for the 6-15 minutes Dina probably took to complete her mission, and it was just left out since it would have been redundant with panel one of this page, and also less funny.
They did at The University of Maryland (in my day)! The place is called “The Tick Tock” and it opened after WWII when the crossroads were dirt and they were surrounded by farmland and trees…Now it’s surrounded by two 3-lane highways and run down apartment buildings (built in the late 50’s) occupied by locals and grad students.
I don’t know if it’s the name of an actual chain or so but ‘village pantry’ makes me think it’s one of those ‘canned/boxed/packaged’ food bank places ppl donate their spare food to or so versus an actual store (which i imagine most college students would take advantage of every weekend lol)
Listen, the truth is Dina is just a scapegoat here. Joyce was not thinking of Becky at all and she should say it with her full chest. Becky would appreciate all aspects of that.
Yeah, Joyce has got herself full-on into “what a tangled web” territory by lying, which she pretends to hate. When Becky confronted her for not taking Becky hijinking she could have told the truth: “I needed to have a heart-to-heart talk with Dorothy, and your stupid enemies schtick would have prevented that by making her defensive.” Then she wouldn’t be in this mess.
But she also doesn’t want to talk about why she needed that heart-to-heart talk with Dorothy, because that’s Dorothy’s problem. So she would have needed to make up a story about that.
I disagree: Becky would not appreciate it nor take it well. She’d see it as a bad thing when there’s no reason for Joyce to feel bad about. She wanted to do something for a friend in need. It was THEIR time to bond. There should have been no reason for Becky to cross her mind in the same way that Dorothy should not cross her mind when she does something special just for Becky.
Can you imagine if during a special bonding time between Joyce and Becky, Joyce suggested to bring in Dorothy? Becky would NOT be happy.
Oh, most def! That’s what explains it. It’s super cause-consequence and Becky has been shaped by grief like, a lot.
… Doesn’t mean the reaction justified, tho. Our emotions are valid, and that means we have a right to feel them. But acting on them, and/or making everyone else’s Thing, that’s a choice – and it’s not always the Healthy ™ one.
THAT explains why I am more forgiving about Becky’s possessiveness! I went through the same (or at least similar) possessiveness after my brother died!
I have had Joyce’s issue in the past, which is you start lying to avoid hurting someone’s feelings because you were raised to believe white lies are better than the truth. As it turns out, being honest but authentic is a better strat all around, but even today it’s hard to shake that internal core training towards “kind” deception
I’m not sure Joyce is “lying” per se, sure what genuinely happened was she just wasn’t considering Becky at all, but Becky wanted a reason not to have invited her, so Joyce provided one. “I didn’t think of you” isn’t a *reason*, it’s an *explanation*. There have absolutely been times I didn’t consciously consider a decision, and then later when asked to explain it I came up with justifications that had nothing to do with the actual thought process in the moment, and it was definitely *not* any kind of deception, it was just the first thing that came to mind when asked for a reason when I never really had one in the first place. You think “why would I have done that?” and then the answer you come up with retroactively becomes the reason since it makes sense, at least in your head, the fact that it was never part of your thought process before hand is irrelevant. Lying is when you intentionally make false statements with the intent to deceive, this is an attempt to explain something retroactively that wasn’t done with conscious reasoning. Some people are good at accurately guessing their subconscious motives, others are not, practice and context can both have a large impact as well. Joyce is fairly new to interrogating her own motives and thought processes, and in the middle of a confrontation with your best friend that you inadvertently hurt is not a context particularly conducive to proper introspection.
Joyce is trying, failing miserably, but she is trying. It’s going to take a while before Joyce realizes she is not doing the right thing, but to her credit she did tell Dina she was going to do her best to treat her better.
And I think that’s why Dina’s response was to prove Joyce wrong, and not to call her out like they had previously agreed. She recognized that Joyce wasn’t coming from a place of malice and was actively trying (albeit failing) to be as diplomatic about the issue as she could. Arguing with Joyce wouldn’t be helpful, but proving her assumption incorrect is a great way to resolve the conflict. It’s cutting the knot, so to speak.
Added bonus, now that they have alcohol they can go back to one of their rooms and drink together now, thus resolving the core of the conflict between Joyce and Becky since they get to do the thing Becky felt left out on.
– Sal
– Asher
– Amber
– Joyce?
– Dina
– Becky? (I mean she did break into a house but it was her own)
– pretty much everyone who did underaged drinking so like, a lot
I strongly suspect that taking booze you can’t legally buy is still technically a crime even if you leave enough money behind.
I think we are into the murky area of the distinction between “crimes that are a violation of laws I think are stupid” and “crimes that are a violation of laws I agree with.”
And now, Dina has done a crime while leaving Becky out. Is Becky going to blow up at Dina now, too?
That said (and judging from Becky’s grin in the last panel), Dina’s initial crime was in facilitation of the additional “let’s all go underage drink this hooch now” crime they might be about to commit, so maybe that mitigates Becky being left out of the first crime.
Although kind of covered by the “underage drinking” thing, but didn’t Billy/Jennifer actually get into an accident while driving drunk (prior to the start of the comics)
You also have Ruth (slapped one of the people on the floor, which would be assault)
And if you are going to count Becky for breaking into her own house then Joyce and Jocelyn should both be included too since they were accomplices
And Walky MIGHT be considered a co-conspirator when amber hacked into the school to change his grades.
Slapping someone would be battery, not assault. Assault is the *threat* of violence. So all the times she’s said she’s gonna take someones femurs could be argued to be assault.
That very much depends on where you’re from. Indiana makes that distinction, but a place like e.g. Canada would call both actions assault, so the definitions in a global discussion like this can get mixed up.
Except it’s not a global discussion, the story explicitly takes place in Indiana so the laws in Canada are irrelevant unless we’re speaking about crimes that Ruth did while in Canada or we’re worried about her getting extradited or deported for her crimes since some countries might arrest you for things you did in other countries if they are also illegal in your home country. No idea if Canada does that, though.
It is a global discussion because not everyone participating is from the United States, let alone Indiana. That’s why the terms can be confused. I thought that my point was obvious the first time around.
Operating a car under the influence is an entirely different crime than underage drinking, so Billie definitely gets a tick (and that carries over to Jennifer, for that matter).
Mike committed blackmail and assault.
On an extreme technicality, Joe and Roz videotaping Danny’s foot while he was asleep and had a reasonable expectation of privacy might violate some state laws.
How is using Danny’s foot to hold the camera a case of “invasion of privacy”? I assume the camera was pointed at Joe’s bed and Danny wasn’t in frame.
(There may be some sort of “interference” or “assault/battery” case to be made, since they invaded his personal space, but i don’t think that counts as a “privacy” thing)
Indiana is a single party consent state for the purposes of recording both audio and video, Danny did not need to know he was on camera for Joe to record him since Joe consented to being on camera. Now the fact that it was a *porn* might change things a bit, as I’m pretty sure you need explicit consent from all involved parties to film them performing a sex act, which I think might be covered by a different part of the legal code than normal privacy and recording laws (I am not a lawyer), but whether Danny’s foot being in-frame *counts* as performing a sex act when he was simply in the room is a bit more dubious. I have no idea if there would even exist precedent for that.
Danny ate out Amazi-Girl outdoors, which I guess could be spun as public indecency if anyone had seen. Mike stole a scooter and attempted to murder Blaine (failing to murder doesn’t make it not an attempt). Peter was naked in the women’s dormitory without making sure it was okay. Mary stole Fizzy Lifting Drinks. Ethan edits a wiki on purpose.
I was about to argue that Mike acted in self-defence! It wasn’t attempted murder! Also probably not premeditatedenough to qualify. And pretty sure that attempted manslaughter isn’t a thing.
When did Mike steal a scooter? When Toedead and the Blaine were chasing him, it seemed more like he was already set up on the scooter rental app but the dads had to quickly fumble through it to get their own scooters.
Byrd, Lime, and I think a couple others were pretty ubiquitous in Bloomington at the time. I think only one of them remain now, but heck if I know which one as I only really notice them now when they are actively in my way and in those cases I don’t tend to pay attention to the logos.
Read Hall is a mixed-gender dorm, students are separated by hallway, not by building. Still public indecency and like, it doesn’t matter what gender you’re exposing yourself to if they don’t wanna see it, so it’s a moot point anyway.
“women’s dormitory”. Read hall is a co-ed dormitory, not a “women’s dormitory”, as that phrasing does in fact refer to having a separate dormitory building and not merely separate halls or wings. There isn’t even anything preventing men from being in that part of the building since they aren’t even on a different floor with keycards that only work on the relevant floors, but if they were separated by floor “women’s dormitory” would still be incorrect since it would actually be “the women’s floor of the dormitory” as, once again, it is all one single, co-ed dormitory. You can’t blame people for thinking you used words to mean what they actually mean rather than how you intended.
Dorothy, Jennifer, Joe, Ruth, Walky, Malaya, and a bunch of others I don’t remember or who are on the list for something else have all engaged in underage drinking. Meredith and Carla have done pot.
Jason knowingly furbished alcohol to a minor. Also, a bunch of violations regarding his work visa.
As mentioned, Danny did some public indecency.
Galasso’s got some issues with employment laws.
John seems to have embezzled a car.
Becky violated the health code, and also hacked a congresswoman’s Twitter. (I still refuse to call it X.) Also, at least one campaign finance violation.
Mary stole a pie from Carla. (More seriously, I’m pretty sure that trick with the glue and skates was some sort of crime.)
Robin did a home invasion. And she’s a sex pest.
Faz participated in the Great Kidnapping.
Howard broke into a bunch of girls’ dorm rooms looking for HBO.
Carol attempted to trespass in the dorms.
(And yes, I left a lot of examples out of people who also did some of the things above, but were already on the “did crime” list for other reasons. Also, a bunch of villains who, hopefully, are no longer part of the cast.)
Eh, someone who is “the best” would be able to recognize that that’s a conversation for when they are in private and she’s able to have an open conversation with Becky without any of the walls Becky puts up normally. Becky is performatively silly pretty much constantly in public, even when she’s upset or otherwise acting on a negative emotion, if you want to sincerely get through to her and have any hope of her taking it well, you can’t do it when there’s an audience.
I love this. Joyce’s hypothesis was sound, based on how people have treated Dina (Raidah, sure, but also no one really reacted well when Becky said she was putting the moves on her at Joyce’s dorm party, and those were friends), and Joyce did her awkward best to acknowledge that that’s unfair. Dina tested that hypothesis in the realest way, and continued to assert herself to a world that generally treats her like a kid. I’m excited to see where this goes and it was just. So. Cool. Love it.
Now, I do think her hypothesis remains sound when confined to Dina being served in a bar. Jacking some hooch from the corner store is a different set of skills.
Agreed. I had a few very baby faced friends in college and they took a fair amount of grief from bouncers even with their legit IDs years after graduation. I get why bars are so stringent (or can be, anyway), but it does pose a problem for folks who look younger than their age.
If she were to go up to the bar and ask for drinks, sure. If she’s tailing somewhere behind the left elbow of one of the three hotties entering the bar, the Somebody Else’s Problem field is uncompromised.
It’s not that crazy. The liquor store is off-panel. So she went-off panel where the liquor store was, got the liquor, and came back on-panel. Perfectly reasonable.
Honestly, it’s on everybody else for not handling things this way.
She is not constrained by the rules of the comic — see also, when she was confused that not everyone was aware who Amazigirl is, even though the comic rules say a mask should hide your identity automatically
I mean, to be fair, she was kind of one of the only people who had the opportunity to get a good look at both Amber AND Amazigirl. Amber is quiet and tries to avoid standing out, and Amazigirl is a vigilante operating under cover of darkness implementing stealth and ambush tactics. Dina is one of the relatively few people actually familiar with Amber’s face as her roommate, and is also the person best positioned to get a good look at Amazigirl as she sneaks in and out of the dorm room. Domino masks don’t do a whole lot to disguise your face from those who know you well by themselves, but if you don’t get a great look at one or the other face, then noticing the resemblance isn’t easy. Then there’s the general Clark Kent effect where body-language, vocal patterns, and general demeanor play a huge role in recognition. As an actual split personality, Amazigirl acts different, speaks different, carries herself differently, etc, so it’s not unreasonable for even those familiar with Amber to dismiss the idea of them being the same person because they have nothing in common than some facial features. (even body shape gets distorted by posture and gait)
She just stepped behind the door of the lab, stepped out from behind the door of the Village Pantry, picked up a jug of Old Hillbilly, stepped back behind the door of the Village Pantry, and stepped out from behind the door of the lab.
They absolutely review the tapes (in general) as often as General Tekno thinks they do, it’s just they’re looking more at “Okay, this cashier’s drawer came up as US$50 short and the till to their left and right are both over by US$25; did they each make a handling error and it all evens out, or did till #1 straight up pocket it like a moron (we tell them about the overlapping camera angles, they can’t think they’ll get away with it.) and I need to figure out where the extra US$50 came from?” and only review the tapes for shoplifting if a clerk mentions suspicious activity.
This is the point I’m making. If Dina’s powers are to truly walk in and out unnoticed through her lack of presence, if she actually has a Kuroko superpower, then no one would even notice it was gone for days, weeks, or longer. They wouldn’t review the tape unless they noticed something.
You think this mastermind wouldn’t have taken off her hat real quick? And without it she’s undistinctly Black Bloc. I don’t think it’s a casual choice from Willis
Only if any of them is sufficiently familiar with drinking to actually implement pacing. If they each take a few gulps before passing it, I could easily see them getting through most or all of the bottle before passing out, despite them all being fairly small and inexperienced, it still takes time for alcohol to get through your system, even the strong stuff like that.
Oh no, when alcohol goes missing they look for that. My husband was a manager, when a bottle went missing it became “Security Tape City” and he’d have to spend half his shift reviewing every second like he was a consultant for “See No Evil” on ID. And where he worked didn’t even sell liquor.
(So it was only wine, mixers, beer and stuff.) Most places take alcohol theft very seriously. Every coworker I’ve ever known that’s been fired for theft got caught for stealing liquor, it’s basically the retail/restaurant employee of tax evasion. You can steal food, come in late, no call no show 7 days a week but the minute you touch the alcohol it’s over.
Yeah, it just seems really unlikely to me that a business operating within walking distance of a college dorm would let it slide when fat bottles of liquor get snatched. And how hard is it going to be to identify the young lady with the conspicuous dinosaur hat?
The whole Joyce couldn’t invite Becky without Dina was a weak argument to begin, Joyce just doesn’t want to admit to herself she didn’t want to bring Becky along.
It wasn’t about Becky. Dorothy was depressed and Joyce wanted to cheer her up. I guess it kinda shows Joyce really loves Becky if she’s willing to throw herself under the bus by offending Dina to try and preserve Becky’s pride. Maybe. Becky really shouldn’t be jealous though. Does she invite Joyce to everything she’s doing?
My thought was Joyce not thinking of Becky was a sign in itself she didn’t really want her there to help with Dorothy, understandable given her passive agreession. I think it’s more Joyce doesn’t want another fight with Becky and Becky definitely should not be getting jealous over this. Dina however should be both angry at Joyce for throwing her under the bus and at her girlfriend for obsessing over her first crush to the point she wants to be involved in every life event of Joyce’s while Dina is right there.
Yes, ideally Joyce would have called out Becky on her rude possessiveness instead of immediately going on the defensive with some BS. The point was to spend some quality time with Dorothy because her friend was having a terrible time and needed her. It wasn’t just a part,y and inviting Becky would have meant Dorothy would get needled and harassed all night by both Dina and Becky. It’s really too bad Becky is making a scene like she owns Joyce, and Dina is making it all about Dina instead of calling out her girlfriend for being in love with someone else.
What the heck are you even on about, hoss? Dina wouldn’t needle or harass Dorothy, that’s ridiculous. She seems indifferent to Dotty if anything. She’s also not “making it all about Dina” by any stretch. And to top it off, she already knows Becky has a thing for Joyce (and all that that implies), but she’s also intelligent enough to know that people don’t control who they’re in love with and she’s not shitty enough to make that a point of contention.
You just don’t seem to understand this character at all.
I think Joyce doesn’t want to admit she didn’t even think about Becky and was hyper-focused on getting drunk with Dotty. I think it was partly the autisms laser blasting everything into Go go go mode.
HOWEVER
She and Becky haven’t done that much together recently and that’s on both of them, Even with the bullshit going on in both their lives.
Honestly, Becky is missing out on Joyce’s newfound Boyfriend Nintendo Access. They could be in there, gamin’ it up with the crew. Hell, if the Joycons are jank (98% chance) or there’s not enough to go around, Becky might even be able to get her own extra gay set. Add Sal, Danny and Dina into the mix and it’s actually kind of a cozy group date/hangout.
And lest anyone object on the grounds of affordability, I’m pretty sure Robin already payed for Becky’s schooling, which comes with the dorm room we’ve seen her living in. Rent and utility bills don’t exist for her right now, she presumably eats at the cafeteria like everyone else (and likely gets occasional free/discounted pizza from work), and she doesn’t own a vehicle. All I could see her needing to spend money on right now is basic toiletries and whatever personal food she wants beyond what’s offered by the school. $89.99 for some Joycons is probably okay.
I am kind of glad she is seemingly more interested in proving a point than being upset. Probably helps Joyce and Dina tend to be pretty okay with each other these days.
The x’s denote how many times its been distilled. It was a way to keep track of alcohol strength when moonshining. XXX is the maximum as close to pure alcohol as possible. XX is still fairly strong as it is.
I do think this strip was great. But from a more pragmatic sense, I do think there is a difference between sneaking into a store alone to obtain booze and going into a bar with friends and hanging out with them.
After all, Duna is not literally invisible. She goes unnoticed partly because she acts alone and is unassuming. Put her with a group of people and they will check her like they checked the others.
Particularly when Dina is a standout in said group for whatever reason.
Joyce should have just been honest and said ‘it was to help Dorothy and you only make things worse for Dorothy, so of course I didn’t invite you’. She’d actually be in less trouble now, because only Becky would be angry with her.
The girls gonna go blind from that much moonshine oml.
Also, I mentioned it above but just adding on because I asked my husband about it, irl Dina would be caught for this like… within three days lol. My husband had to review every camera and angle of the building to try and find the alcohol thief at his place. He had to zoom in and figure out if anybody had a bag or a jacket to hide it. Big pain.
Also, I did not realize that Village Pantry was a convenience store and I thought for second Dina robbed a food bank and was so concerned.
Here in California, convenience stores certainly do, but it depends on the state. In some states, only special alcohol stores can carry distilled beverages.
Im glad this didn’t turn into a Fight.
On another note, I now have even more respect for Dina then I did before, and you can tell Becky is all for this side of her girlfriend lol, That smile at the end there is great lol.
There is a difference in going into bars with you and your underage freinds and posting it on instagram, (DON’T POST YOUR CRIMES ON SOCIAL MEDIA!)and boosting liquor, but really that’s not the point at all Joyce isn’t being to honest with Becky and Becky is overreacting and doesn’t understand the context and now Dina may have committed a crime. Although Dina could bring it back in the same manner, if her hypothesis has merit.
Always post your crimes on social media, what the hell do you even mean by “don’t”? Spoiled white boys do it all the time and nobody ever notices until they’ve shot up their school because the girl they didn’t have the guts to ask out might have told them “no”.
Honestly that one always baffled me and makes me want to side with conspiracy theorists. You’ve got a guy making clear threats on social media and cops don’t do anything about it? Sounds like the “school shootings are setups to give government excuse to take our guns away” conspiracy theorists are onto something
There are more than a billion posts a day to Facebook alone. How would the cops become aware of one thread of maybe a dozen?
Sometimes people do report such stuff. But what do the relevant laws allow as a response? (I honestly don’t know the details, but I suspect the answer is “nothing effective.” It’s very tricky to work out appropriate responses to crimes that have not yet been committed, and might never be.) It doesn’t help that the existing structure of public safety services is focused on force and containment, and has no good facilities for heading off trouble.
To me it’s not baffling, just sad and wasteful and angry-making.
Yeah they need to set something up that would allow the authorities to do something. Maybe send the kid doing the threatening for psychological evaluation or something? Because whenever this kind of stuff happens the media almost always report that “authorities were aware of the person/the threats.”. It just comes off as them not doing anything to stop it before it happened.
I’m seeing multiple comments taking it as a given that the store Dina went to was selling this jug as merchandise, with a barcode and all that good stuff. What none of you seem to be considering is that this jug originally belonged to one of the employees, and they brought it in for the employee party that’s going down later tonight.
As a personal anecdote that makes this canon, when I was working at a Sonic Drive-In, one of our crew leads started talking about how his uncle(?) just made this great batch of bespoke moonshine and was selling it for like $20 a jar, and if we were interested he’d have had the guy come up after close to sell it to us.
If this goes in a direction of Joyce, Becky, and Dina getting drunk in one of their dorm rooms, then I am IN for it.
(Also, Joyce seems to be doing a lot today to turn Joe on. I wouldn’t be surprised if, by the end of this day, Joyce and Joe have to come to terms with exactly how far Joyce wants to go right now.)
I am *SO HOPING* that this ends up the mirror universe image of Dina in ‘It’s Walky’. i.e., Becky can get Dina to do the sexy-times, but only when Dina is drunk.
Karma is – I am reliably informed – a multiversal bongo.
She’s already done the sexytimes tho! Dina gets turned on by being Becky’s “Science Partner”… Wherein the science subject is Becky, the objective is utterly ruin Becky for anyone else, and the method is systematically test the responses of her willingly submitting subject.
Baby Domme is REALLY good at her craft so far, we’ve been told. And a natural.
Joyce: Y-yes, but you have to understand…
*Dina pulls a cigarette package, an adult magazine, a pistol and a butterfly knife*
Joyce *panic face activated*: wh-what? How?
Dina: It was next the count, I’m lesbian, this is America and I said I’m an martial artist.
Prof Brock *suddenly behind them*: Before ask any questions, I need this isopropylic solution opened for disinfecting. Also, I need this knife to dissect this frog in my hands, and the pistol is to retain anyone too coward to see open reptiles. And please, throw away this magazine, I’m interested in boys.
Next 1 page slipshine:
Panel 1: Becky is fully clothed
Panel 2: Close up of becky’s face, red cheeks, she is clearly having a “good time”
Panel 3: Becky looks down, her pants are gone.
Panel 4: Becky looks up confused
Panel 5: Dina is putting her shirt back on, “Did you enjoy this girlfriend interaction?”
Dina deserves to be outwardly angry but I do appreciate the “fuck it, let me prove a point” energy
Also it’s interesting how Becky has a completely valid reason to be mad at Joyce(Joyce just was ableist to Dina in a consistent way that hurts and n plays Dina, her GIRLFRIEND) but instead fixates on her missing out
Dina, someone who works at that store will be accused of the theft, fired, and arrested. It happened to my sister. Fortunately, my sister couldn’t be bullied into confessing the crime, and could prove nothing was missing. She sued the chain for enough money to buy a house.
i mean, she only took one jug, not a whole cash register, unless it’s a mom and pop place, tho fired is one thing but i don’t think ppl could just arrest or would prolly be cleared later lol
well i assume it’s just a first offense lol (that said while she paid in thise case i remember hearing that some places will just let you shoplift up to a certain point so they can charge you higher after a specific amount )
Imagine Amber coming back to her room to find Joyce, Dina, Becky and maybe Joe absolutely smashed on stolen booze. There would be a war between her and Amazi Girl over the course of action they should take XD
It’s not real moonshine.
Moonshine proper is specifically illegally produced.
As in ‘by the shine of the moon.’
You can buy stuff called moonshine in stores, but it’s legally produced on legal equipment.
Additionally– illegal distillation is not unsafe.
The ‘you’ll go blind’ thing actually comes from liquor adulterated with methanol, cleaning products, etc. because it was produced by criminals during Prohibition who just wanted to max out volume.
TBH some of that rep was using old car radiators held together with lead solder and giving lead poisoning to drinkers as the condensers for the stills.
I mean, baller move by Dina, but I strongly recommend she don’t do that again. She could get the staff at the shop in SERIOUS trouble for failing to follow correct procedures like checking for ID, up to and including getting fired from their job.
he’s already assured the class he’s not a benevolent scientist
the only real problem with it in the lab is that you shouldn’t have anything in there you intend to drink
And how is Dina not the most popular girl in her class?
I know when *I* was in college (at the age of 44, on the GI Bill) every kid in the class hit me up to buy beer. It got to the point where I had business cards printed that said “No, I will not buy you beer.”
i mean, i doubt she stole alcohol before to give to her friends but i imagine before she’d prolly be made into a gofer instead of actually being appreciated but i dont think dina cares for popularity versus acknowledgement from ppl she respects/likes
I love the evolving relationship between Joyce and Dina: Joyce really brings out Dina’s bitter side, and it’s almost like Joyce can’t shake the way she feared Dina during her Creationist days? But because they both love Becky, just leaving eachother alone isn’t an option, so we get to see how that dynamic actually plays out ~
And Becky just makes it worse by obsessing over Joyce. Dina is probably painfully aware of the fact that if Joyce offered a lesbian relationship, Becky would jump into her arms without a though about Dina.
i’d hope at this point, esp after they’ve already had sex that becky wouldn’t consider dina just a ‘rebound’ anymore, but even if joyce was bi and wasn’t into dorothy doesn’t guarantee it’d work out the same way straight friends don’t always make good couples
This doesn’t really prove Joyce wrong, there is a difference between going unnoticed in an open place, and getting past a bouncer who’s entire job is to vet people coming in single file
i mean if anything, other than dressing super young and looking super shorti ‘d expect most ppl go to a bar seem young/immature versus like, just going to a bar specifically to get laid or so lol
tho it would be interesting to see how becky would act in a elysian bar lol
Real moonshine comes in mason jars. I know that because I am from Kentucky.
Also, keep this in mind, Joyce is doubling and tripling down on this being Dina’s fault when she never thought of Becky or Dina at all. This is a lie to cover her ass and it’s so much worse than just coming clean.
You know, I feel like “Be Gay and Do Crimes” had more of a rebellious flair when being gay was itself something really socially subversive. Nowadays, gayness strikes me as something really ordinary for normal, boring people who brush their teeth and jointly file their taxes on time.
If anything, now the phrase seems more like a way to gay-ify anarchism, to make it more banal.
I get your point but those places are places like Iran or Russia. Best case scenario Prison Colony, worst case scenario, mass grave. Americans think their cops are bad because they haven’t seen what Real police brutality looks like.
I don’t think I’m explaining very well. You don’t have to do crimes because you’re gay where you’re in danger. You should do crimes while gay where it’s safe so that the people who have to live their lives in secret can see they’re not alone and the people in power can see we don’t accept their repression. To show as long as the world treats us as a criminal element, its laws are not to be respected just by the merit of being laws. To be a bother to people who’d rather forget about Iran and Russia.
So we should… steal from some shopkeep in Indiana to show Putin and the Ayatollah a thing or two?
Idunno, I think we’re getting away from my original point, being openly gay is obviously subversive on a whole different order of magnitude in places where it actually is a crime, I was more remarking from my own American perspective. When I was younger I distinctly remember gayness as something a lot more socially fringe, and it was legit rebellious to even be out of the closet. There was a certain aesthetic romance and dramatic tension to that. So “Be Gay, Do Crimes” had a different energy.
Dude I’m not even from the USA and I’ve been following along the growing outlawing of everything the Trans community has achieved; and this plus Roe vs Wade getting overturned means I’m willing to bet actual Latin American cash (so, a lot to match y’all’s money I guess) gay rights are next. It’s not like there’s no shootings over there, or trigger happy cops the laws brush under the rug, innit?
Cops in my particular country are awful and have maimed people but at least they aren’t at “killing in cold blood” level.
I get it I worded it poorly. My point from the start was that if you are gay and you are in a country where it’s outlawed you Really shouldn’t attract attention to yourself. Yeah US cops can be awful but they don’t boot in the door of gay people for being gay and brutalize them for that. In other parts of the world They Do.
Ok so – not everyone is cut out for this, so I won’t go “YOU GOTTA”… But if you have the disposition, well, this is what Pride actually started as. Or, to follow the example you’re using, like the women in Iran taking off their veils.
You start a movement even if the personal cost is high if you can, and go down with some fash blood under your nails if you must. Make the world look! So in the future, those who can’t fight can be safe to Actually Live. Change doesn’t come otherwise, I’m afraid. And if you fail… At least you did all you could with dignity, y know? And the faith someone else will pick up the mantle one day. I’ll understand if others disagree here, even though these are views I’m old enough to know I won’t give up, and wish more people held: All in all, I’m an optimist, not by nature but by choice :33
In Russia they can’t even really protest and if people so much twitch while being brutalized by the cops it’s 5-10 years in a Penal Colony. In Iran they would hang people as a warning to others during protests and people were murdered on mass. What happens once in a while in US happens on the Regular over there. I’m not saying that American cops aren’t bad. I’m saying that you don’t know what Truly oppressive police is like.
That terrorist attack in Russia from a while back? They caught some guys who they Thought were culprits. They cut off the ear off of one and stuffed it into his face. They attached a car battery to another’s testicles and a third was so badly brutalized that he wasn’t even conscious when they wheeled him into the court. There are recordings of those things happening.
Like… this is such American exceptionalism. Thinking that police fuck ups are the same as Systemic and Govoernment approved abuse of the general population to keep them scared and obedient. You can go to streets and talk shit about your government all your want. Yeah they might send riot cops after you or start some shit. But they won’t be putting you in jail or hanging from a lamp post for years because you DARED to disobey the government.
We lived through a fascist dictatorship here and contrary to what propaganda would want people to believe, the plebiscite that ousted the dictator who made mass-murder, dissapearances, and torture a thing, was only the culmination of years of very, VERY risky effort – a lot of it violent, and all of it legally a crime with no chance of an actual trial. I mean all these idealistic things I’ve said higher in the thread.
The objective of Be Gay Do Crime in y’all’s case would be to prevent things from getting THAT bad. And if people are uncomfortable with shoplifting, what would they think/do about “bigger” things? That said, it’s an excellent punchline here for what will be the start of some excellent shenanigans so, since this has gotten RL!Grim – Rule of Funny reigns over the rest.
So much is deemed a crime when it shouldn’t, it’s our duty as human beings to dismantle systems of oppression. Even more if we’re a part of a marginalized community.
Which is a crime. So splitting hairs about the shoplifting (in a chain store, to boot), is silly, when the saying is still very relevant as a whole.
Just wear pride pins and that ‘tax evasion’ shirt/hoodie but at most i think ppl are more likely to jaywalk than do something too huge (or just be stoners, there’ll always be ppl getting weed even if a state doesn’t allow it), but i wonder how many gay public figures/celebs will be praised/called ‘based’ for doing some big white collar crime someday
Well, time to eschew the weirdo bar scene and go get drunk on moon shine out of a clay jug on a dorm roof like a real heart-to-heart demands. This all seems to work out for everyone except Joyce who may have trouble drinking with her foot still in her mouth.
Well, someone at Boston Dyke March yesterday definitely had a sign saying “be gay and don’t do war crimes” so there definitely are some variations going around
Did she just… grab the first jug of moonshine she saw? I do love that she can very quickly prove anyone wrong… but we don’t want anyone going blind, here.
Are you saying it’s legal to sell alcohol with dangerous levels of methanol in the US? I mean… I’ll believe you, I just hoped it wouldn’t be quite that bad. Consumer protection laws only happen abroad?
AFAIK you won’t find bad moonshine in chain liquor stores, but little stores that sell locally produced stuff? They might slap a label saying “drink at your own risk” and call it a day.
I know that cops at Pride are an Entire Subject of Discourse, but I kind of want to see them with a banner that says “Be Gay And Do Not Do Crimes” now.
Other than self checkout or smaller areas i feel like some ppl would keep a closer eye on shoplifters more so than ppl trying to sneak alcohol then again if you get over 100 customers a day you prolly don’t get paid enough to care lol
tho i imagine they prolly wouldn’t enjoy the taste of it too much (not that that’s the point of getting drunk with college friends but yeah)
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dino digga gotz the booze like BOOM!
AWE YEAH *^-^*
*plays “Tank!” by The Seatbelts on hacked muzak*
DoA Book 14: Be Gay, Do Crimes!
I think it’s time to blow this scene. Get everybody and their stuff together. Ok, three, two, one!
Let’s jam!
she’s so real for this
can we have a hi res version pleaseeeee 🥺
pretty pweaaase 🥺
This is one of those scenes where I’m both very conscious that Dina is a fictional character, but also extremely impressed with her in a real-feeling way.
Dina is not to be trifled with.
I knew a guy like this in the army. A true grey-man. Dude could move in and out of groups and places and it’d be anywhere between 5min and an hour before people noticed uf he was or wasn’t present.
Dina is gay and apparently refuses to pirate movies
Kinda disappointed in her about that second bit but what are you gonna do
God dammit I missed the first “not”
On a brighter note hell yeah Dina can pirate movies
I mean, you think she’s gonna PAY to hate-watch the Jurassic World films?
The Unbearable Whiteness of Being Joyce.
Isn’t copyright infringement a civil rather than criminal matter?
copyright infringement, yes. Media piracy, no
The fun little loophole, though, is that you need to be in possession of pirated material to commit that crime. If you are streaming pirated material and the actual file is never on a device you own, you are not committing a crime, you are merely benefitting from somebody *else* committing that crime. If a graffiti artist defaces an ugly wall with a beautiful mural without the permission of the owner or anybody else who would need to give approval for a public mural, and you drive across town to see it when you normally wouldn’t be in that part of town, and even snap a picture of it to save as your phone wallpaper and share on social media, you are benefitting from crime but doing nothing illegal. Same thing if you enjoy pirated media but never actually possess or distribute pirated media.
Also, because pirating media is so easy, unless you’re actively burning DVDs and selling them to people, it isn’t worth the corporation’s time to go after everyone who Pirates movies and music for their own personal use. They would spend far more in legal fees than they would ever get out of mostly broke college students.
And every time they pay a developer good money to come up with new DRM, a wave of passionate and possibly autistic hackers deacend upon the new DRM, strip it to the bone and leave it’s defeated corpse on the corporation’s doorstep as a warning to others. Lol
Uh, no. That isn’t how streaming media works. When you stream a video, your computer still downloads that video file. The only difference with streaming is that instead of waiting for the complete file to download before viewing, you watch it as the data flows in and then discard the data shortly after. You still download and possess the entire video, just not all at the same time.
i mean, if she did get caught maybe you’d get in less trouble for leaving money versus just stealing on top of it, but would’ve been a power move to just have taken joyce’s wallet without noticing and paying with /her/ money
Altho i wish i could be invisible to random ppl on the street but otherwise going ‘unnoticed’ would be more of a pain compared to just looking underage depending on the situation. or if ppl are so ‘forgettable’ they can order food and just dine and dash xD
holy shit she’s fast
i mean we know about the invisible part but dang
that’s fast
Sometimes you just really need to prove your girlfriend’s best friend wrong about your ability to drink
We don’t call them velociraptors because they’re slow
She really pushed the acceleraptor on this one though.
I once ran a half-mile from my theater department to my dorm room and back in three minutes.
I was about to call this a fib, when I realized that it could be read to ways:
I first read it as “a half-mile, which was from A to B, and then back the same way in 3 minutes”, which would have been way faster than the world record for the mile.
Now I believe you meant “a half-mile, which was from A to B and back, in three minutes”, which is totally believable.
She’s not fast, she can teleport. We’ve established this. Joyce needs an iguana on her head to mimic even a fraction of Dina’s power
Joyce has also been shown to teleport – usually to Dorothy, but there have been other instances.
We also don’t know how long Becky and Joyce have been bickering about this since the last page. I once checked for walky-related reasons and the estimated walking distance from Read Hall to the village pantry down the block and across the street is 5 minutes according to google maps. 5 minutes there, 5 minutes back, and probably around 5 minutes to get to the front exit makes it roughly 15 minutes, give or take a bit for getting whatever you get inside. Having said that, if she didn’t take the elevator to the ground level and instead took the stairs down to the second level where there’s a side exit we’ve seen them take a few times, that could shave off 2-3 minutes, and if she ran or jogged to the village pantry and back, then you could easily shave off 2-3 minutes of travel time either way.
Joyce and Becky aren’t standing in the same position anymore, suggesting at least some time has passed, and both are known to stubbornly bicker and hold onto things way longer than is reasonable, especially with each other. They could easily have been at this for the 6-15 minutes Dina probably took to complete her mission, and it was just left out since it would have been redundant with panel one of this page, and also less funny.
Did YOUR university sell jugs of hobo moonshine on campus? Because I don’t think mine did.
We just had a bar run by the student’s union.
Depends how big the hobo population was.
I mean, not *on* campus, but uhh… Appalachia, yo
I went to grad school at the University of Kentucky.
I can assure you, they did.
(Well, just off campus. xD )
They did at The University of Maryland (in my day)! The place is called “The Tick Tock” and it opened after WWII when the crossroads were dirt and they were surrounded by farmland and trees…Now it’s surrounded by two 3-lane highways and run down apartment buildings (built in the late 50’s) occupied by locals and grad students.
That’s just a large container of Dos Equis. For moonshine you need at least tres equis.
That wasn’t on campus, it was across the street.
I’m amazed a convenience store that close to campus sells the hard stuff. Around here, ours only have beer at the most.
ASU has Jerry’s Drive-In Liquors literally across the street from campus…. +shrug+
Can’t be that hard, it only has 2 Xs on the label.
I don’t know if it’s the name of an actual chain or so but ‘village pantry’ makes me think it’s one of those ‘canned/boxed/packaged’ food bank places ppl donate their spare food to or so versus an actual store (which i imagine most college students would take advantage of every weekend lol)
It is an actual chain of gas station convenience stores [bought out by fas mart in 2015, but still using its own brand name at least in indiana]
SHENANIGANS
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Listen, the truth is Dina is just a scapegoat here. Joyce was not thinking of Becky at all and she should say it with her full chest. Becky would appreciate all aspects of that.
I mean, yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, Joyce has got herself full-on into “what a tangled web” territory by lying, which she pretends to hate. When Becky confronted her for not taking Becky hijinking she could have told the truth: “I needed to have a heart-to-heart talk with Dorothy, and your stupid enemies schtick would have prevented that by making her defensive.” Then she wouldn’t be in this mess.
As much as I would like to see that, I can understand why Joyce doesn’t want to poke that bear.
But she also doesn’t want to talk about why she needed that heart-to-heart talk with Dorothy, because that’s Dorothy’s problem. So she would have needed to make up a story about that.
I mean the answer to the question “what did you have to talk to Dorothy about?” Is simply “now of your business.”
None! None! For f’s sake autocucumber!
I disagree: Becky would not appreciate it nor take it well. She’d see it as a bad thing when there’s no reason for Joyce to feel bad about. She wanted to do something for a friend in need. It was THEIR time to bond. There should have been no reason for Becky to cross her mind in the same way that Dorothy should not cross her mind when she does something special just for Becky.
Can you imagine if during a special bonding time between Joyce and Becky, Joyce suggested to bring in Dorothy? Becky would NOT be happy.
Becky doesn’t really want to share Joyce with anyone.
It’s a trauma response, after losing just about everything else.
Oh, most def! That’s what explains it. It’s super cause-consequence and Becky has been shaped by grief like, a lot.
… Doesn’t mean the reaction justified, tho. Our emotions are valid, and that means we have a right to feel them. But acting on them, and/or making everyone else’s Thing, that’s a choice – and it’s not always the Healthy ™ one.
Not justified, but understandable.
THAT explains why I am more forgiving about Becky’s possessiveness! I went through the same (or at least similar) possessiveness after my brother died!
I have had Joyce’s issue in the past, which is you start lying to avoid hurting someone’s feelings because you were raised to believe white lies are better than the truth. As it turns out, being honest but authentic is a better strat all around, but even today it’s hard to shake that internal core training towards “kind” deception
I’m not sure Joyce is “lying” per se, sure what genuinely happened was she just wasn’t considering Becky at all, but Becky wanted a reason not to have invited her, so Joyce provided one. “I didn’t think of you” isn’t a *reason*, it’s an *explanation*. There have absolutely been times I didn’t consciously consider a decision, and then later when asked to explain it I came up with justifications that had nothing to do with the actual thought process in the moment, and it was definitely *not* any kind of deception, it was just the first thing that came to mind when asked for a reason when I never really had one in the first place. You think “why would I have done that?” and then the answer you come up with retroactively becomes the reason since it makes sense, at least in your head, the fact that it was never part of your thought process before hand is irrelevant. Lying is when you intentionally make false statements with the intent to deceive, this is an attempt to explain something retroactively that wasn’t done with conscious reasoning. Some people are good at accurately guessing their subconscious motives, others are not, practice and context can both have a large impact as well. Joyce is fairly new to interrogating her own motives and thought processes, and in the middle of a confrontation with your best friend that you inadvertently hurt is not a context particularly conducive to proper introspection.
Damn, that is actually rather impressive. Who knew Dina had it in her?
Neither the laws of Physics or Church have been able to contain Dina, what chance did the Indiana General Assembly have?
Presumably Joyce if she ever talked to Dina like she’s an equal adult.
Joyce is trying, failing miserably, but she is trying. It’s going to take a while before Joyce realizes she is not doing the right thing, but to her credit she did tell Dina she was going to do her best to treat her better.
And I think that’s why Dina’s response was to prove Joyce wrong, and not to call her out like they had previously agreed. She recognized that Joyce wasn’t coming from a place of malice and was actively trying (albeit failing) to be as diplomatic about the issue as she could. Arguing with Joyce wouldn’t be helpful, but proving her assumption incorrect is a great way to resolve the conflict. It’s cutting the knot, so to speak.
Added bonus, now that they have alcohol they can go back to one of their rooms and drink together now, thus resolving the core of the conflict between Joyce and Becky since they get to do the thing Becky felt left out on.
She doesn’t. She’s carrying it in a big bottle.
It’s such a display of dominance I’m in awe, both surprised and yet should’ve seen it coming.
Dina cares not for the laws of the land. If they make no sense, then they do not.
Cast members now who have done crimes:
– Sal
– Asher
– Amber
– Joyce?
– Dina
– Becky? (I mean she did break into a house but it was her own)
– pretty much everyone who did underaged drinking so like, a lot
I strongly suspect that taking booze you can’t legally buy is still technically a crime even if you leave enough money behind.
I think we are into the murky area of the distinction between “crimes that are a violation of laws I think are stupid” and “crimes that are a violation of laws I agree with.”
You think it should be illegal to steal booze from Village Pantry? Real hall monitor hours in the dumbing of age comment section.
I think they think that JOYCE is in that murky area. But I could be wrong.
god forbid women do anything
what??
Slartibeast didn’t say it should be illegal, just that it probably is. These are sometimes distinctly unrelated.
Look, you start decriminalizing everything and it’ll be hard to do crimes anymore.
The whole argument here is about Joyce taking Dorothy along to do crimes with her but leaving Becky out.
And now, Dina has done a crime while leaving Becky out. Is Becky going to blow up at Dina now, too?
That said (and judging from Becky’s grin in the last panel), Dina’s initial crime was in facilitation of the additional “let’s all go underage drink this hooch now” crime they might be about to commit, so maybe that mitigates Becky being left out of the first crime.
Dina didn’t take Dorothy along. That’s the real sin in Becky’s eyes.
Although kind of covered by the “underage drinking” thing, but didn’t Billy/Jennifer actually get into an accident while driving drunk (prior to the start of the comics)
You also have Ruth (slapped one of the people on the floor, which would be assault)
And if you are going to count Becky for breaking into her own house then Joyce and Jocelyn should both be included too since they were accomplices
And Walky MIGHT be considered a co-conspirator when amber hacked into the school to change his grades.
Slapping someone would be battery, not assault. Assault is the *threat* of violence. So all the times she’s said she’s gonna take someones femurs could be argued to be assault.
That very much depends on where you’re from. Indiana makes that distinction, but a place like e.g. Canada would call both actions assault, so the definitions in a global discussion like this can get mixed up.
Except it’s not a global discussion, the story explicitly takes place in Indiana so the laws in Canada are irrelevant unless we’re speaking about crimes that Ruth did while in Canada or we’re worried about her getting extradited or deported for her crimes since some countries might arrest you for things you did in other countries if they are also illegal in your home country. No idea if Canada does that, though.
It is a global discussion because not everyone participating is from the United States, let alone Indiana. That’s why the terms can be confused. I thought that my point was obvious the first time around.
Operating a car under the influence is an entirely different crime than underage drinking, so Billie definitely gets a tick (and that carries over to Jennifer, for that matter).
Mike committed blackmail and assault.
On an extreme technicality, Joe and Roz videotaping Danny’s foot while he was asleep and had a reasonable expectation of privacy might violate some state laws.
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How is using Danny’s foot to hold the camera a case of “invasion of privacy”? I assume the camera was pointed at Joe’s bed and Danny wasn’t in frame.
(There may be some sort of “interference” or “assault/battery” case to be made, since they invaded his personal space, but i don’t think that counts as a “privacy” thing)
Pretty sure it was indicated that one of his feet was actually visible in the shot. I admit I may be misremembering.
Indiana is a single party consent state for the purposes of recording both audio and video, Danny did not need to know he was on camera for Joe to record him since Joe consented to being on camera. Now the fact that it was a *porn* might change things a bit, as I’m pretty sure you need explicit consent from all involved parties to film them performing a sex act, which I think might be covered by a different part of the legal code than normal privacy and recording laws (I am not a lawyer), but whether Danny’s foot being in-frame *counts* as performing a sex act when he was simply in the room is a bit more dubious. I have no idea if there would even exist precedent for that.
Danny ate out Amazi-Girl outdoors, which I guess could be spun as public indecency if anyone had seen. Mike stole a scooter and attempted to murder Blaine (failing to murder doesn’t make it not an attempt). Peter was naked in the women’s dormitory without making sure it was okay. Mary stole Fizzy Lifting Drinks. Ethan edits a wiki on purpose.
Mike’s got a pretty solid claim to self-defence. Who the fuck is Peter
Peter Paul, Mary’s boyfriend. (No, I’m not making up that surname. It’s from the Walkyverse.)
I was about to argue that Mike acted in self-defence! It wasn’t attempted murder! Also probably not premeditatedenough to qualify. And pretty sure that attempted manslaughter isn’t a thing.
Then saw you got there first, and more coherently
When did Mike steal a scooter? When Toedead and the Blaine were chasing him, it seemed more like he was already set up on the scooter rental app but the dads had to quickly fumble through it to get their own scooters.
I always thought he was lying about the scooter having a rental app or whatever it was, to stall the two bumblefucks a bit.
the scooter was rental-apped, not stolen
Byrd, Lime, and I think a couple others were pretty ubiquitous in Bloomington at the time. I think only one of them remain now, but heck if I know which one as I only really notice them now when they are actively in my way and in those cases I don’t tend to pay attention to the logos.
Read Hall is a mixed-gender dorm, students are separated by hallway, not by building. Still public indecency and like, it doesn’t matter what gender you’re exposing yourself to if they don’t wanna see it, so it’s a moot point anyway.
Point to where anyone said it was a separate building, if you dare.
“women’s dormitory”. Read hall is a co-ed dormitory, not a “women’s dormitory”, as that phrasing does in fact refer to having a separate dormitory building and not merely separate halls or wings. There isn’t even anything preventing men from being in that part of the building since they aren’t even on a different floor with keycards that only work on the relevant floors, but if they were separated by floor “women’s dormitory” would still be incorrect since it would actually be “the women’s floor of the dormitory” as, once again, it is all one single, co-ed dormitory. You can’t blame people for thinking you used words to mean what they actually mean rather than how you intended.
Whatever
Walky committed battery against Asher.
Sarah committed battery against Raidah.
Mike and Joyce committed battery against Joe.
Amber and Amazi-Girl: So much battery.
Dorothy, Jennifer, Joe, Ruth, Walky, Malaya, and a bunch of others I don’t remember or who are on the list for something else have all engaged in underage drinking. Meredith and Carla have done pot.
Jason knowingly furbished alcohol to a minor. Also, a bunch of violations regarding his work visa.
As mentioned, Danny did some public indecency.
Galasso’s got some issues with employment laws.
John seems to have embezzled a car.
Becky violated the health code, and also hacked a congresswoman’s Twitter. (I still refuse to call it X.) Also, at least one campaign finance violation.
Mary stole a pie from Carla. (More seriously, I’m pretty sure that trick with the glue and skates was some sort of crime.)
Robin did a home invasion. And she’s a sex pest.
Faz participated in the Great Kidnapping.
Howard broke into a bunch of girls’ dorm rooms looking for HBO.
Carol attempted to trespass in the dorms.
(And yes, I left a lot of examples out of people who also did some of the things above, but were already on the “did crime” list for other reasons. Also, a bunch of villains who, hopefully, are no longer part of the cast.)
For Mary, blackmail is one of the more serious crimes on that list
“There’s no second chances!”
Because there are no mistakes, only gross negligence or intentional deliberate malice.
I can’t tell if you are being ironic of not.
Ironic
In case anyone needed reminder: Dina is the fucking best!
If she was the best she’d call Becky out about her jealousy issues
Eh, someone who is “the best” would be able to recognize that that’s a conversation for when they are in private and she’s able to have an open conversation with Becky without any of the walls Becky puts up normally. Becky is performatively silly pretty much constantly in public, even when she’s upset or otherwise acting on a negative emotion, if you want to sincerely get through to her and have any hope of her taking it well, you can’t do it when there’s an audience.
I love this. Joyce’s hypothesis was sound, based on how people have treated Dina (Raidah, sure, but also no one really reacted well when Becky said she was putting the moves on her at Joyce’s dorm party, and those were friends), and Joyce did her awkward best to acknowledge that that’s unfair. Dina tested that hypothesis in the realest way, and continued to assert herself to a world that generally treats her like a kid. I’m excited to see where this goes and it was just. So. Cool. Love it.
To be fair, having friends react uncomfortably when you put the moves on a woman is just what being a lesbian is like in America.
Love it!
Now, I do think her hypothesis remains sound when confined to Dina being served in a bar. Jacking some hooch from the corner store is a different set of skills.
Agreed. I had a few very baby faced friends in college and they took a fair amount of grief from bouncers even with their legit IDs years after graduation. I get why bars are so stringent (or can be, anyway), but it does pose a problem for folks who look younger than their age.
If she were to go up to the bar and ask for drinks, sure. If she’s tailing somewhere behind the left elbow of one of the three hotties entering the bar, the Somebody Else’s Problem field is uncompromised.
Did… did she already have that or is she just that fast?
I’d say she is just that fast.
Definitely just that fast.
That implies that Dina is actually moving through the intervening space. Such pedestrian concerns may be beneath her. She scares me.
It’s not that crazy. The liquor store is off-panel. So she went-off panel where the liquor store was, got the liquor, and came back on-panel. Perfectly reasonable.
Honestly, it’s on everybody else for not handling things this way.
She is not constrained by the rules of the comic — see also, when she was confused that not everyone was aware who Amazigirl is, even though the comic rules say a mask should hide your identity automatically
I mean, to be fair, she was kind of one of the only people who had the opportunity to get a good look at both Amber AND Amazigirl. Amber is quiet and tries to avoid standing out, and Amazigirl is a vigilante operating under cover of darkness implementing stealth and ambush tactics. Dina is one of the relatively few people actually familiar with Amber’s face as her roommate, and is also the person best positioned to get a good look at Amazigirl as she sneaks in and out of the dorm room. Domino masks don’t do a whole lot to disguise your face from those who know you well by themselves, but if you don’t get a great look at one or the other face, then noticing the resemblance isn’t easy. Then there’s the general Clark Kent effect where body-language, vocal patterns, and general demeanor play a huge role in recognition. As an actual split personality, Amazigirl acts different, speaks different, carries herself differently, etc, so it’s not unreasonable for even those familiar with Amber to dismiss the idea of them being the same person because they have nothing in common than some facial features. (even body shape gets distorted by posture and gait)
Yes! Off-panel is just a step or two away. The trip takes only a second.
I must remember that if I ever find myself in a comic.
Obviously the village pantry across the street had an open door she could materialize behind. Presumably the cafeteria also has one.
A Velociraptor can travel at speeds up to 25 miles per hour. If Becky and Joyce were bickering for like two minutes, she’d be fine.
She just stepped behind the door of the lab, stepped out from behind the door of the Village Pantry, picked up a jug of Old Hillbilly, stepped back behind the door of the Village Pantry, and stepped out from behind the door of the lab.
She found a punchline power-up, covers great distances in zero time.
grav roulette.
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Presumably the argument lasted long enough for her to go there and back with the bottle in hand.
Also: rule of funny. It’s funnier if she interrupts the argument they’re still having with a bottle of hooch.
She is indeed a swift thief, if you know what I mean.
Look at Becky’s smile in that last panel she’s so proud of her gf
Shouldn’t we be starting the “No one uses cash any more!” argument I keep seeing crop up various places?
I can’t remember the last time I bought something at a “real” store with cash.
I do. And it’s still legal tender. If you’re doing the “rob the place but leave payment” thing, it’s really the only reasonable option.
The only negative is that when they review the security tapes she WILL have a distinctive clothing tell.
So everyone is told to be on the lookout for “this person”, but they never notice anyone looking like that.
ObSF: Plateau eyes from “A Gift From Earth” by Larry Niven.
Tip o’ the hat for reminding me of that story. Where did I put the book…?
It’s in the place with the other book. No, not that one, the other one. To the left! No, MY left!
I’ve got a secret for you — they do not “review the tapes” as much as you think they do.
They absolutely review the tapes (in general) as often as General Tekno thinks they do, it’s just they’re looking more at “Okay, this cashier’s drawer came up as US$50 short and the till to their left and right are both over by US$25; did they each make a handling error and it all evens out, or did till #1 straight up pocket it like a moron (we tell them about the overlapping camera angles, they can’t think they’ll get away with it.) and I need to figure out where the extra US$50 came from?” and only review the tapes for shoplifting if a clerk mentions suspicious activity.
This is the point I’m making. If Dina’s powers are to truly walk in and out unnoticed through her lack of presence, if she actually has a Kuroko superpower, then no one would even notice it was gone for days, weeks, or longer. They wouldn’t review the tape unless they noticed something.
You think this mastermind wouldn’t have taken off her hat real quick? And without it she’s undistinctly Black Bloc. I don’t think it’s a casual choice from Willis
Becky panel 4: MOST PROUDEST GIRLFRIEND
Panel 5*
Well SOMEONE absolutely called it yesterday.
at this point I gotta ask: is Village Pantry like the name of a local grocery store? what is it?
It is/was a chain of convenience stores, originated in Indiana. You can find the one in Bloomington on Google Maps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPS_Convenience
For the record, there are still more than one in Bloomington.
Do you mean to say that VP is only everywhere in some places?
I’ve never seen one.
That is a lot of booze for three freshman girls that aren’t pre-timeskip Billie.
Good, so it’ll last.
Only if any of them is sufficiently familiar with drinking to actually implement pacing. If they each take a few gulps before passing it, I could easily see them getting through most or all of the bottle before passing out, despite them all being fairly small and inexperienced, it still takes time for alcohol to get through your system, even the strong stuff like that.
Plenty for everybody?
Also, pretty sure that’s moonshine
Becky’s so proud of her in that last panel
Shit, I’m proud of her.
Goddamn, Dina
Oficially hotter than Joyce right now
Lmao, I love it.
I mean, they’re gonna find you on CCTV when they do inventory.
What the hell do you think inventory is?
Right? It’ll just be one more piece of shrink on the tally, no biggie.
Oh no, when alcohol goes missing they look for that. My husband was a manager, when a bottle went missing it became “Security Tape City” and he’d have to spend half his shift reviewing every second like he was a consultant for “See No Evil” on ID. And where he worked didn’t even sell liquor.
(So it was only wine, mixers, beer and stuff.) Most places take alcohol theft very seriously. Every coworker I’ve ever known that’s been fired for theft got caught for stealing liquor, it’s basically the retail/restaurant employee of tax evasion. You can steal food, come in late, no call no show 7 days a week but the minute you touch the alcohol it’s over.
Lol, people are so fucking precious about their poison, as if it’s not ridiculously abundant and easy to come by.
I suspect it’s because if it got in underage hands, said stores could lose their liquor liscenses, and that’d *really* hurt their bottom lines.
*backing away slowly from the entire country*
Letting people steal your alcohol is probably an easy way to lose your liquor license so businesses take that Extremely seriously.
“the entire country” seems like kind of a wide extrapolation from one person’s coworkers
Yeah, it just seems really unlikely to me that a business operating within walking distance of a college dorm would let it slide when fat bottles of liquor get snatched. And how hard is it going to be to identify the young lady with the conspicuous dinosaur hat?
Dina was best character. Dina is now best character by two slots. I haven’t ranked any of the others.
Bottle of prohibition era hooch. Time traveling Dina confirmed.
The whole Joyce couldn’t invite Becky without Dina was a weak argument to begin, Joyce just doesn’t want to admit to herself she didn’t want to bring Becky along.
It wasn’t about Becky. Dorothy was depressed and Joyce wanted to cheer her up. I guess it kinda shows Joyce really loves Becky if she’s willing to throw herself under the bus by offending Dina to try and preserve Becky’s pride. Maybe. Becky really shouldn’t be jealous though. Does she invite Joyce to everything she’s doing?
My thought was Joyce not thinking of Becky was a sign in itself she didn’t really want her there to help with Dorothy, understandable given her passive agreession. I think it’s more Joyce doesn’t want another fight with Becky and Becky definitely should not be getting jealous over this. Dina however should be both angry at Joyce for throwing her under the bus and at her girlfriend for obsessing over her first crush to the point she wants to be involved in every life event of Joyce’s while Dina is right there.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
“Joyce wanted to cheer Dorothy up”… by Doing Crimes with her. IYKWIM.
Can’t be long before Becky puts two and two together.
exactly – it wasn’t about Becky, it was about Dorothy.
as far as Becky is concerned, this is Not Allowed.
Yes, ideally Joyce would have called out Becky on her rude possessiveness instead of immediately going on the defensive with some BS. The point was to spend some quality time with Dorothy because her friend was having a terrible time and needed her. It wasn’t just a part,y and inviting Becky would have meant Dorothy would get needled and harassed all night by both Dina and Becky. It’s really too bad Becky is making a scene like she owns Joyce, and Dina is making it all about Dina instead of calling out her girlfriend for being in love with someone else.
What the heck are you even on about, hoss? Dina wouldn’t needle or harass Dorothy, that’s ridiculous. She seems indifferent to Dotty if anything. She’s also not “making it all about Dina” by any stretch. And to top it off, she already knows Becky has a thing for Joyce (and all that that implies), but she’s also intelligent enough to know that people don’t control who they’re in love with and she’s not shitty enough to make that a point of contention.
You just don’t seem to understand this character at all.
I think Joyce doesn’t want to admit she didn’t even think about Becky and was hyper-focused on getting drunk with Dotty. I think it was partly the autisms laser blasting everything into Go go go mode.
HOWEVER
She and Becky haven’t done that much together recently and that’s on both of them, Even with the bullshit going on in both their lives.
Honestly, Becky is missing out on Joyce’s newfound Boyfriend Nintendo Access. They could be in there, gamin’ it up with the crew. Hell, if the Joycons are jank (98% chance) or there’s not enough to go around, Becky might even be able to get her own extra gay set. Add Sal, Danny and Dina into the mix and it’s actually kind of a cozy group date/hangout.
There are options now.
And lest anyone object on the grounds of affordability, I’m pretty sure Robin already payed for Becky’s schooling, which comes with the dorm room we’ve seen her living in. Rent and utility bills don’t exist for her right now, she presumably eats at the cafeteria like everyone else (and likely gets occasional free/discounted pizza from work), and she doesn’t own a vehicle. All I could see her needing to spend money on right now is basic toiletries and whatever personal food she wants beyond what’s offered by the school. $89.99 for some Joycons is probably okay.
That excursion wasn’t about Becky, or Joyce, or even drinking. It was about getting Dorothy to open up about what’s been bothering her.
Right I forgot about that hidden talent, their chemistry teacher isn’t Walter White or he would exploit the hell out of this.
*They’re lucky
Dina! We have to cook!
[Jump cut to a still he built in his office out of chemistry lab equipment]
Dina is a hardcore dinosaur.
✌️😎🦖
She is an (metal riff) Extreme Dinosaur and she is really rocking on Planet Number 3
Lesbian booze ninja.
Dina is saving the crime’ing for important things. Like lobbing stealth bricks.
So the opponent’s pokemon will take rock-type damage whenever they switch in?
Soup for her family, you mean
Yay for Dina’s super speed!
I am kind of glad she is seemingly more interested in proving a point than being upset. Probably helps Joyce and Dina tend to be pretty okay with each other these days.
and then cue becky still being mad at joyce anyways like “i’m not gonna get drunk two night in a row” or so lol
Moonshine? Why isn’t it labelled as XXX though?
In other news, buffer has finally reached 2025, which means, uh… what will they do with that much hooch??
The x’s denote how many times its been distilled. It was a way to keep track of alcohol strength when moonshining. XXX is the maximum as close to pure alcohol as possible. XX is still fairly strong as it is.
XXX is 96% alcohol???
I do think this strip was great. But from a more pragmatic sense, I do think there is a difference between sneaking into a store alone to obtain booze and going into a bar with friends and hanging out with them.
After all, Duna is not literally invisible. She goes unnoticed partly because she acts alone and is unassuming. Put her with a group of people and they will check her like they checked the others.
Particularly when Dina is a standout in said group for whatever reason.
Joyce should have just been honest and said ‘it was to help Dorothy and you only make things worse for Dorothy, so of course I didn’t invite you’. She’d actually be in less trouble now, because only Becky would be angry with her.
Sure, but then she’s got to talk about why Dorothy needed help in the first place, which is more Dorothy’s to tell.
Ok that didn’t go where I thought it was going to go.
And now I’m wondering if Dina is going to drink them all under the table…
I’m guessing Dina will end up drinking half the jug and still look more or less sober (see also George Reeves).
I *nearly* called it and am proud of myself.
Joyce: [Really weak justification for not including The Gays]
Dina: “I stole this massive fucking jug of gutrot and nobody noticed.”
hobbits are incredibly light on their feet! in fact, they can pass unseen if they so choose…
That explains much: Dina has The Ring.
YE YE YE YE
The girls gonna go blind from that much moonshine oml.
Also, I mentioned it above but just adding on because I asked my husband about it, irl Dina would be caught for this like… within three days lol. My husband had to review every camera and angle of the building to try and find the alcohol thief at his place. He had to zoom in and figure out if anybody had a bag or a jacket to hide it. Big pain.
Also, I did not realize that Village Pantry was a convenience store and I thought for second Dina robbed a food bank and was so concerned.
Do food pantries carry alcohol?
Here in California, convenience stores certainly do, but it depends on the state. In some states, only special alcohol stores can carry distilled beverages.
They mostly carry raisins, peanut butter, and almost-expired canned pear halves, in my lived experience.
Pretty sure that’s just a convenience store chain name
Maybe she can put it back before anyone notices it’s missing.
Im glad this didn’t turn into a Fight.
On another note, I now have even more respect for Dina then I did before, and you can tell Becky is all for this side of her girlfriend lol, That smile at the end there is great lol.
depends on how joyce reacts/does next like “actually joe and i are gonna spend more time together, so you and dina can get drunk without me”
happy pride
There is a difference in going into bars with you and your underage freinds and posting it on instagram, (DON’T POST YOUR CRIMES ON SOCIAL MEDIA!)and boosting liquor, but really that’s not the point at all Joyce isn’t being to honest with Becky and Becky is overreacting and doesn’t understand the context and now Dina may have committed a crime. Although Dina could bring it back in the same manner, if her hypothesis has merit.
Always post your crimes on social media, what the hell do you even mean by “don’t”? Spoiled white boys do it all the time and nobody ever notices until they’ve shot up their school because the girl they didn’t have the guts to ask out might have told them “no”.
Honestly that one always baffled me and makes me want to side with conspiracy theorists. You’ve got a guy making clear threats on social media and cops don’t do anything about it? Sounds like the “school shootings are setups to give government excuse to take our guns away” conspiracy theorists are onto something
There are more than a billion posts a day to Facebook alone. How would the cops become aware of one thread of maybe a dozen?
Sometimes people do report such stuff. But what do the relevant laws allow as a response? (I honestly don’t know the details, but I suspect the answer is “nothing effective.” It’s very tricky to work out appropriate responses to crimes that have not yet been committed, and might never be.) It doesn’t help that the existing structure of public safety services is focused on force and containment, and has no good facilities for heading off trouble.
To me it’s not baffling, just sad and wasteful and angry-making.
Yeah they need to set something up that would allow the authorities to do something. Maybe send the kid doing the threatening for psychological evaluation or something? Because whenever this kind of stuff happens the media almost always report that “authorities were aware of the person/the threats.”. It just comes off as them not doing anything to stop it before it happened.
Hindsight is 20/20.
The authorities are aware of hundreds, probably thousands, of threats for every one that actually turns into something real.
Good point
Ok, that’s the best response
Dang, that is a REALLY good punchline. Round of applause for Willis!
And of course Becky is like “Cool, let’s have a snootful” last panel
BTW Willis I wasn’t aware Dos Equis was available in gallon stone jugs
I’m seeing multiple comments taking it as a given that the store Dina went to was selling this jug as merchandise, with a barcode and all that good stuff. What none of you seem to be considering is that this jug originally belonged to one of the employees, and they brought it in for the employee party that’s going down later tonight.
As a personal anecdote that makes this canon, when I was working at a Sonic Drive-In, one of our crew leads started talking about how his uncle(?) just made this great batch of bespoke moonshine and was selling it for like $20 a jar, and if we were interested he’d have had the guy come up after close to sell it to us.
Becky is so turned on, right now.
Dina fucking rules.
I saw that pun, Mr. Willis. Bravo.
time to get shitfaced XD
If this goes in a direction of Joyce, Becky, and Dina getting drunk in one of their dorm rooms, then I am IN for it.
(Also, Joyce seems to be doing a lot today to turn Joe on. I wouldn’t be surprised if, by the end of this day, Joyce and Joe have to come to terms with exactly how far Joyce wants to go right now.)
honestly i half expect a scene where joyce is ‘ready’/wants to but joe gets nervous and just can’t perform lol
I think that’s what his encounter with Liz set up.
i mean sometimes you can’t control it like with joes morning wood but i imagine joyce of all ppl would be understanding
I am *SO HOPING* that this ends up the mirror universe image of Dina in ‘It’s Walky’. i.e., Becky can get Dina to do the sexy-times, but only when Dina is drunk.
Karma is – I am reliably informed – a multiversal bongo.
She’s already done the sexytimes tho! Dina gets turned on by being Becky’s “Science Partner”… Wherein the science subject is Becky, the objective is utterly ruin Becky for anyone else, and the method is systematically test the responses of her willingly submitting subject.
Baby Domme is REALLY good at her craft so far, we’ve been told. And a natural.
I can’t embed images can I?
https://images.app.goo.gl/taT74Ti5RMb2Wi6x6
“I spit on the law!”
I’m not up on the latest X-Men characters, who is Mystique getting married to in that page?
Dina just presented Joyce with a jug of hooch, and Carla’s nickname for Joyce is Jugs.
This CAN’T be a coincidence.
….
BECAUSE I SAID IT CAN’T THAT’S WHY!
i wonder how much more intense carla would get if she were to be drunk lol
Joyce: Y-yes, but you have to understand…
*Dina pulls a cigarette package, an adult magazine, a pistol and a butterfly knife*
Joyce *panic face activated*: wh-what? How?
Dina: It was next the count, I’m lesbian, this is America and I said I’m an martial artist.
Prof Brock *suddenly behind them*: Before ask any questions, I need this isopropylic solution opened for disinfecting. Also, I need this knife to dissect this frog in my hands, and the pistol is to retain anyone too coward to see open reptiles. And please, throw away this magazine, I’m interested in boys.
Amphibians.
It’s 3AM, give me a discount
Well, now we’ll know who to contact if the prohibition ever starts up again.
Even after taking into account the fact I was about 80% sure this is (roughly) what Dina was about to do
I still love Dina more for this badass-ery
Next 1 page slipshine:
Panel 1: Becky is fully clothed
Panel 2: Close up of becky’s face, red cheeks, she is clearly having a “good time”
Panel 3: Becky looks down, her pants are gone.
Panel 4: Becky looks up confused
Panel 5: Dina is putting her shirt back on, “Did you enjoy this girlfriend interaction?”
Dina deserves to be outwardly angry but I do appreciate the “fuck it, let me prove a point” energy
Also it’s interesting how Becky has a completely valid reason to be mad at Joyce(Joyce just was ableist to Dina in a consistent way that hurts and n plays Dina, her GIRLFRIEND) but instead fixates on her missing out
Only one panel but interesting still
goddammit dina
like holy fuck
Right? She didn’t have to be so cool, but there she goes anyway.
Dina, someone who works at that store will be accused of the theft, fired, and arrested. It happened to my sister. Fortunately, my sister couldn’t be bullied into confessing the crime, and could prove nothing was missing. She sued the chain for enough money to buy a house.
It’s fine, that employee is a racist and doesn’t pay his child support.
For many reasons you shouldn’t steal things to prove a point in real life.
someone at that chain is gonna sue them for enough money to buy a house? Dina’s a hero!
i mean, she only took one jug, not a whole cash register, unless it’s a mom and pop place, tho fired is one thing but i don’t think ppl could just arrest or would prolly be cleared later lol
smile, you’re on CCTV
I always assumed Dina is distantly related to ninjas, maybe she has some Aura that makes CCTV short-circuit when she is in view?
She only moves in the instants between the capture refresh rate.
well i assume it’s just a first offense lol (that said while she paid in thise case i remember hearing that some places will just let you shoplift up to a certain point so they can charge you higher after a specific amount )
You’re right, Dina. That is not the saying.
It’s ballsy enough to snatch up a bottle of hooch, ballsier still to present it on a dry campus
I say this with respect, btw. You’re doing amazing, sweetie. Keep going.
Imagine Amber coming back to her room to find Joyce, Dina, Becky and maybe Joe absolutely smashed on stolen booze. There would be a war between her and Amazi Girl over the course of action they should take XD
It’s not real moonshine.
Moonshine proper is specifically illegally produced.
As in ‘by the shine of the moon.’
You can buy stuff called moonshine in stores, but it’s legally produced on legal equipment.
Additionally– illegal distillation is not unsafe.
The ‘you’ll go blind’ thing actually comes from liquor adulterated with methanol, cleaning products, etc. because it was produced by criminals during Prohibition who just wanted to max out volume.
Let’s be fair, illegal distillations does not Have to be unsafe but you never have 100% certainty.
it is a comical looking jug for story purposes but more effective than her plonking down a six pack i guess
TBH some of that rep was using old car radiators held together with lead solder and giving lead poisoning to drinkers as the condensers for the stills.
Becky in the last panel is like, “I have never been as hot for my awesome girlfriend as I am in this moment.”
I mean, you already acquired booze while being under 21 so that’s enough crime without having to not pay XD
I mean, baller move by Dina, but I strongly recommend she don’t do that again. She could get the staff at the shop in SERIOUS trouble for failing to follow correct procedures like checking for ID, up to and including getting fired from their job.
“The rule is, ‘Be gay; do crimes.’ I don’t make the rules. I just follow the rules.”
“Amber once told me she lives in fear of them. I am still not sure why.”
“In fear of the gays? The crimes? The rules?”
I don’t pretend to understand Brannigan’s Law, I merely enforce it!
hell yeah dina
point demonstrated without an argument that ends up with everybody feeling about things that aren’t related to the point
Or, yeah, she could just do that.
So, how long before the prof. arrives and asks why there’s a huge jug of joy juice in the lab?
he’s already assured the class he’s not a benevolent scientist
the only real problem with it in the lab is that you shouldn’t have anything in there you intend to drink
Dina is more ethical/moral than Joyce and Dotty as well. Shiplifting won’t result in the employees being punished for selling alcohol to a minor.
I kind of expect Dina to say: crime accomplished, I will now put it back.
Go, do a crime
Dina: YIPEEEE!
out of all the relationships in this comic; Becky and Dina have the most healthy one lol
And how is Dina not the most popular girl in her class?
I know when *I* was in college (at the age of 44, on the GI Bill) every kid in the class hit me up to buy beer. It got to the point where I had business cards printed that said “No, I will not buy you beer.”
i mean, i doubt she stole alcohol before to give to her friends but i imagine before she’d prolly be made into a gofer instead of actually being appreciated but i dont think dina cares for popularity versus acknowledgement from ppl she respects/likes
I love the evolving relationship between Joyce and Dina: Joyce really brings out Dina’s bitter side, and it’s almost like Joyce can’t shake the way she feared Dina during her Creationist days? But because they both love Becky, just leaving eachother alone isn’t an option, so we get to see how that dynamic actually plays out ~
And Becky just makes it worse by obsessing over Joyce. Dina is probably painfully aware of the fact that if Joyce offered a lesbian relationship, Becky would jump into her arms without a though about Dina.
She knows: https://www.dumbingofage.com/riddles/
i’d hope at this point, esp after they’ve already had sex that becky wouldn’t consider dina just a ‘rebound’ anymore, but even if joyce was bi and wasn’t into dorothy doesn’t guarantee it’d work out the same way straight friends don’t always make good couples
This doesn’t really prove Joyce wrong, there is a difference between going unnoticed in an open place, and getting past a bouncer who’s entire job is to vet people coming in single file
The point that Joyce was making was “You look and act like a child.” Well Dina went “Would someone who looks and acts like a child do this?”
i mean if anything, other than dressing super young and looking super shorti ‘d expect most ppl go to a bar seem young/immature versus like, just going to a bar specifically to get laid or so lol
tho it would be interesting to see how becky would act in a elysian bar lol
Real moonshine comes in mason jars. I know that because I am from Kentucky.
Also, keep this in mind, Joyce is doubling and tripling down on this being Dina’s fault when she never thought of Becky or Dina at all. This is a lie to cover her ass and it’s so much worse than just coming clean.
You know, I feel like “Be Gay and Do Crimes” had more of a rebellious flair when being gay was itself something really socially subversive. Nowadays, gayness strikes me as something really ordinary for normal, boring people who brush their teeth and jointly file their taxes on time.
If anything, now the phrase seems more like a way to gay-ify anarchism, to make it more banal.
If you can get murdered in the street for it and have your murderer cheered on, then it’s still subversive.
It is an expression because being gay is still a crime. No, it is, even if it isn’t where you and I live.
To be fair you really don’t want to attract the attention of authorities where being gay is still a crime
Hence why we should do crimes in solidarity.
Exactly. Staying quiet and invisible is what They want.
I get your point but those places are places like Iran or Russia. Best case scenario Prison Colony, worst case scenario, mass grave. Americans think their cops are bad because they haven’t seen what Real police brutality looks like.
I don’t think I’m explaining very well. You don’t have to do crimes because you’re gay where you’re in danger. You should do crimes while gay where it’s safe so that the people who have to live their lives in secret can see they’re not alone and the people in power can see we don’t accept their repression. To show as long as the world treats us as a criminal element, its laws are not to be respected just by the merit of being laws. To be a bother to people who’d rather forget about Iran and Russia.
So we should… steal from some shopkeep in Indiana to show Putin and the Ayatollah a thing or two?
Idunno, I think we’re getting away from my original point, being openly gay is obviously subversive on a whole different order of magnitude in places where it actually is a crime, I was more remarking from my own American perspective. When I was younger I distinctly remember gayness as something a lot more socially fringe, and it was legit rebellious to even be out of the closet. There was a certain aesthetic romance and dramatic tension to that. So “Be Gay, Do Crimes” had a different energy.
We should do whatever makes us socially fringe.
Iran/Russia Headline: Look at how Westerners allow the Gays to do whatever they want, steal and do crimes, do we want that over here?
Dude I’m not even from the USA and I’ve been following along the growing outlawing of everything the Trans community has achieved; and this plus Roe vs Wade getting overturned means I’m willing to bet actual Latin American cash (so, a lot to match y’all’s money I guess) gay rights are next. It’s not like there’s no shootings over there, or trigger happy cops the laws brush under the rug, innit?
Cops in my particular country are awful and have maimed people but at least they aren’t at “killing in cold blood” level.
I get it I worded it poorly. My point from the start was that if you are gay and you are in a country where it’s outlawed you Really shouldn’t attract attention to yourself. Yeah US cops can be awful but they don’t boot in the door of gay people for being gay and brutalize them for that. In other parts of the world They Do.
Ok so – not everyone is cut out for this, so I won’t go “YOU GOTTA”… But if you have the disposition, well, this is what Pride actually started as. Or, to follow the example you’re using, like the women in Iran taking off their veils.
You start a movement even if the personal cost is high if you can, and go down with some fash blood under your nails if you must. Make the world look! So in the future, those who can’t fight can be safe to Actually Live. Change doesn’t come otherwise, I’m afraid. And if you fail… At least you did all you could with dignity, y know? And the faith someone else will pick up the mantle one day. I’ll understand if others disagree here, even though these are views I’m old enough to know I won’t give up, and wish more people held: All in all, I’m an optimist, not by nature but by choice :33
friend US cops are murdering people in the street rethink
In Russia they can’t even really protest and if people so much twitch while being brutalized by the cops it’s 5-10 years in a Penal Colony. In Iran they would hang people as a warning to others during protests and people were murdered on mass. What happens once in a while in US happens on the Regular over there. I’m not saying that American cops aren’t bad. I’m saying that you don’t know what Truly oppressive police is like.
That terrorist attack in Russia from a while back? They caught some guys who they Thought were culprits. They cut off the ear off of one and stuffed it into his face. They attached a car battery to another’s testicles and a third was so badly brutalized that he wasn’t even conscious when they wheeled him into the court. There are recordings of those things happening.
Like… this is such American exceptionalism. Thinking that police fuck ups are the same as Systemic and Govoernment approved abuse of the general population to keep them scared and obedient. You can go to streets and talk shit about your government all your want. Yeah they might send riot cops after you or start some shit. But they won’t be putting you in jail or hanging from a lamp post for years because you DARED to disobey the government.
We lived through a fascist dictatorship here and contrary to what propaganda would want people to believe, the plebiscite that ousted the dictator who made mass-murder, dissapearances, and torture a thing, was only the culmination of years of very, VERY risky effort – a lot of it violent, and all of it legally a crime with no chance of an actual trial. I mean all these idealistic things I’ve said higher in the thread.
The objective of Be Gay Do Crime in y’all’s case would be to prevent things from getting THAT bad. And if people are uncomfortable with shoplifting, what would they think/do about “bigger” things? That said, it’s an excellent punchline here for what will be the start of some excellent shenanigans so, since this has gotten RL!Grim – Rule of Funny reigns over the rest.
Yeah sorry about… all this.
So much is deemed a crime when it shouldn’t, it’s our duty as human beings to dismantle systems of oppression. Even more if we’re a part of a marginalized community.
Which is a crime. So splitting hairs about the shoplifting (in a chain store, to boot), is silly, when the saying is still very relevant as a whole.
Just wear pride pins and that ‘tax evasion’ shirt/hoodie but at most i think ppl are more likely to jaywalk than do something too huge (or just be stoners, there’ll always be ppl getting weed even if a state doesn’t allow it), but i wonder how many gay public figures/celebs will be praised/called ‘based’ for doing some big white collar crime someday
… point proven Dina
Well, time to eschew the weirdo bar scene and go get drunk on moon shine out of a clay jug on a dorm roof like a real heart-to-heart demands. This all seems to work out for everyone except Joyce who may have trouble drinking with her foot still in her mouth.
Well, someone at Boston Dyke March yesterday definitely had a sign saying “be gay and don’t do war crimes” so there definitely are some variations going around
War Crimes are exempt on the basis of being the most horrifying side of the boot we’re supposed to throw away.
Also you’ve reminded me to do something like this for the Pride March over here so, thank you :33
Kinda a scary revelation. But it’s always nice to see Becky be amazed and proud of Dina. She’s always able to surprise her and anyone else.
I FALL ASLEEP EARLY AND THIS IS WHAT I MISSED?????
Dina, the woman that you are. Go big or go home, everyone, she’s understood it better than y’all
This is one of those situation where the more characters there are, the lower the average iq gets XD
Clever girl
Did she just… grab the first jug of moonshine she saw? I do love that she can very quickly prove anyone wrong… but we don’t want anyone going blind, here.
Are you saying it’s legal to sell alcohol with dangerous levels of methanol in the US? I mean… I’ll believe you, I just hoped it wouldn’t be quite that bad. Consumer protection laws only happen abroad?
AFAIK you won’t find bad moonshine in chain liquor stores, but little stores that sell locally produced stuff? They might slap a label saying “drink at your own risk” and call it a day.
That’s genuinely a disturbing thought
dina is so rad
*golf claps*
I know that cops at Pride are an Entire Subject of Discourse, but I kind of want to see them with a banner that says “Be Gay And Do Not Do Crimes” now.
This? This might convince me to allow also-reasonable-in-other-ways cops to Pride.
If only we could find some of those.
Other than self checkout or smaller areas i feel like some ppl would keep a closer eye on shoplifters more so than ppl trying to sneak alcohol then again if you get over 100 customers a day you prolly don’t get paid enough to care lol
tho i imagine they prolly wouldn’t enjoy the taste of it too much (not that that’s the point of getting drunk with college friends but yeah)
Never presume that a girl is not a NINJA at your disposal
HAPPY PRIDE AND REMEMBER! BE GAY AND DO possibly unsavorful things in the eyes of the law
Dina continues being The Best.