The trick is that it doesn’t close, which might NORMALLY make one say he doesn’t fit in it, he actually looks so rad wearing it like that with his pecs uncovered that it actually DOES fit, in context.
God. If Willis makes me care about hat guy girl as a character…. Like, incredible move, way to make me interested in the most boring character in the whole comic lol
The reading is three. There’s evidence for it. It can all be explained away for now, but one day, the prophecy declares, Danny will stumble upon a copy of Fallout: New Vegas, and from there…
The most common tragedy I know is the guy who overcomes his issues with masculinity, comes into his own, extracts all misogyny from his system, proves that cis guys can be great allies and use their privilege to help othes… and then realizes she’s a girl.
Me in 2015 for no explainable reason, having just been introduced to feminist theory: I have to get over my toxic masculinity, and I have to do it by getting comfortable wearing a skirt!
That would honestly be a little depressing. What would Willis be trying to say? A sensitive, non-misogynistic guy is on his way to realising he’s actuall a gal?
Willis is somewhere on the non-binary spectrum, IIRC, but it would still be quite a self-diss to put “if you want to be a decent guy, you have to be a girl” in their comic.
…being a decent guy *does* require stepping out of some other people’s definitions of guyhood, but ugh, why are we letting the most toxic people define what manhood should be?
I think y’all are trying to turn “maybe Danny is trans” into an attack on twinks, and I don’t think you realize that’s how it sounds?? Like, I’m not saying all twinks are trans girls, Jesus, slow down.
I wouldn’t go for full-on girl!Danny but considering none of the (other?) cis guys in the cast have The Blushies, yet Booster does, enby!Danny would be a lot of fun.
I do like the idea of cis!Dan being a Soft Boy who’s done the work of unsubscribing from the patriarchy, but yeah. Sweetie is already bi, what’s one more shade of rainbow among friends :33
It’d also be funny if girl/nbDanny caused a confusing bicurious realization in Sal. That’d mess with Marcie and might give Marcie more of an arc of her own to explore. She’s often pretty sidelined. Trans people break orientations sometimes!
I sincerely doubt she’d leave without her jacket. It’d be like Linus leaving his blanket at Charlie Brown’s.
And I realize certain mindsets will run wild with certain implications of that sentence. I’m not about to die on either side of that hill, so perv away, ‘ya filthy animals.
I hate to say it but…I think if it was with somebody as white as Danny, Linda would not only “forgive” Sal for her “minor slip up,” but support her through it as well.
“Settling down and having kids with a conventional white boy” is probably at the top of their list for her.
Imo a cropped jacket is one of the hottest things a guy could wear. It’s such a huge part of the reason Trunks was so fine, and that was his mom’s jacket
I’ve been thinking about the phrase “secure in his masculinity” a bit lately. I’m not saying its always wrong, but sometimes I feel like the opposite is true too. Some guys are comfortable with an ambiguous gender presentation.
Yeah, it’s kind of old fashioned, but I couldn’t think of a better phrasing. I usually mean it (and tend to hear it) as a dude with no doubts in the Gender Identity department, so anything goes in the Gender Presentation area (including being quite femme)
I think that as our cultural perception of gender evolves, it opens up new ways of thinking about this stuff. In the past, the discourse started and ended with “a straight guy who is feminine must be SO SECURE in his masculinity that he’s not afraid to be called gay or whatever”. A more modern way of looking at it (for some people) might be “masculinity isn’t very important to him”.
Yup. Masculinity is largely a show, pantomime. I’m a straigh guy, but I don’t worry about it or try to present as male or straight. Those CIS gender games annoy me. Same with women working hard to ”femme” themselves up.
Carla can probably very easily acquire a jacket that’ll fit him in a pretty short timeframe, but the jackets she currently owns may be long enough for him but will be too narrow for him. He has broad shoulders and she is slender.
Proud of Danny for this tbh, rock on.
Also I’m not against egg!Danny theories but I personally like the niche he fills in the main cast as he is. Unraveling societal rules about what’s acceptable for a cis man to do, and then freely doing those things without shame, is nice.
Eh, my husband and I share jackets both ways. Of course, I generally buy myself XL ones because I like being enveloped in fleece that comes down to mid-thigh and that I can wrap myself right into, and he’s tall and broad-shouldered (he’s virtually a foot and a half taller than me). I do have some that are more fitted that he doesn’t borrow, and some that were purchased in the women’s section but when I check if he minds when they’re the first ones I find if they’ll fit comfortably he won’t (they’re generally black/grey ones anyway; done up, you cannot tell).
We have reached the point where he’ll let me know that he’s bought us new fleeces because it’s just recognised that most of these are shared ❤️
Joe’s silence can be interpreted in one of two ways:
1) What Danny said is the stupidest thing he’s heard, and he’s waiting for Danny to realise it.
2) He’s silently seething because Danny’s right, and he knows it.
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Joe, did you learn nothing from Gender Studies?
He learned nothing from The Lesson Of Ed Gruberman.
Joe. Approach me that you might see.
He learned that a not single one of us could defeat him, so we’ll have to gang up on him!
I’m so glad there are still people who remember that old thing. “You know who said THAT? Mel, the cook on Alice!”
Would anybody like a piece of pie?
Boot -> head.
I wouldn’t exactly say it fits Danny either… but whatevs.
I mean it’s a little small but it seems he can still fit in it.
Can he close it? If not, he’s not fitting in it.
I’m not sure Sal can close it…
Irrelevant. It’s a cool jacket, not a warm jacket.
He has that Emma Frost, black leather look, going on.
The trick is that it doesn’t close, which might NORMALLY make one say he doesn’t fit in it, he actually looks so rad wearing it like that with his pecs uncovered that it actually DOES fit, in context.
a bolero jacket isn’t supposed to close!
I would. He should really dress like this from now on.
Just add a fez, and he’d look like the Disney Aladdin.
I hope we get to see Joe’s response here and it doesn’t just cut away lol.
[glares silently] is a response! It’s the best response, arguably.
Honestly I think the hat worked better for him.
Did he get sexually transmitted swagger
“The swagger is coming from inside the Danny! The swagger’s been coming from inside the Danny, the whole time!”
Is that anything like the Boogie-Woogie Flu?
Not unlike the Rockin’ Pneumonia
… maybe sexually generated instead?
He is now one haircut away from hot. 😳
He just had sex, and he feels so good. This is Danny’s version of afterglow.
Sal’s clothes might be enchanted with some of her power, just look at Joyce wearing her shirt.
Does that make Danny a sheep in wolf’s clothing?
you all can make fun of me for the “Danny’s an egg” theory all you like. they made fun of Galileo too.
God. If Willis makes me care about hat
guygirl as a character…. Like, incredible move, way to make me interested in the most boring character in the whole comic lolThe reading is three. There’s evidence for it. It can all be explained away for now, but one day, the prophecy declares, Danny will stumble upon a copy of Fallout: New Vegas, and from there…
The reading is there, too.
The most common tragedy I know is the guy who overcomes his issues with masculinity, comes into his own, extracts all misogyny from his system, proves that cis guys can be great allies and use their privilege to help othes… and then realizes she’s a girl.
Me in 2015 for no explainable reason, having just been introduced to feminist theory: I have to get over my toxic masculinity, and I have to do it by getting comfortable wearing a skirt!
“. . . Why are you wearing a skirt?”
“I’m a feminist!”
“Okay but . . .”
Try a kilt first?
oh my god LITERALLY THE SAME! “umm, guys can wear skirts too! see! I’ll demonstrate! I’ll. hm. hmm. wowie it sure does twirl…”
That would honestly be a little depressing. What would Willis be trying to say? A sensitive, non-misogynistic guy is on his way to realising he’s actuall a gal?
Willis is somewhere on the non-binary spectrum, IIRC, but it would still be quite a self-diss to put “if you want to be a decent guy, you have to be a girl” in their comic.
…being a decent guy *does* require stepping out of some other people’s definitions of guyhood, but ugh, why are we letting the most toxic people define what manhood should be?
I think y’all are trying to turn “maybe Danny is trans” into an attack on twinks, and I don’t think you realize that’s how it sounds?? Like, I’m not saying all twinks are trans girls, Jesus, slow down.
Legitimate fear of mine. I currently hold the position of Cis+ but you’re always just one epiphany away…
You don’t have to be afraid of it 🙂 Being a girl is great, and ur always welcome to join us <3
Don’t get my hopes up!
I wouldn’t go for full-on girl!Danny but considering none of the (other?) cis guys in the cast have The Blushies, yet Booster does, enby!Danny would be a lot of fun.
I do like the idea of cis!Dan being a Soft Boy who’s done the work of unsubscribing from the patriarchy, but yeah. Sweetie is already bi, what’s one more shade of rainbow among friends :33
Oh good, I was wondering if anyone else thought the whole “good egg” thing was Willis doing their foreshadowing thing
It would be a hell of a way to destroy Sal after she told Marcie “I’ll do anything for love, but I won’t do that.”
It’d also be funny if girl/nbDanny caused a confusing bicurious realization in Sal. That’d mess with Marcie and might give Marcie more of an arc of her own to explore. She’s often pretty sidelined. Trans people break orientations sometimes!
Did I not literally make a joke about that yesterday or the day before?
The Danny “Egg” references certainly seem to be leading me that direction.
Wonderbread you are adorable; never change.
appropriate grav is appropriate
He might have to change. Sal will want her jacket back sooner or later.
Joyce has her shirt; Danny has her jacket. This keeps up, Sal’s gonna run out of clothes!
it’s a race between her and Oscar “Man-Man” Wilde.
Is Sal still in there, or has she gone out the window, as is her wont?
I sincerely doubt she’d leave without her jacket. It’d be like Linus leaving his blanket at Charlie Brown’s.
And I realize certain mindsets will run wild with certain implications of that sentence. I’m not about to die on either side of that hill, so perv away, ‘ya filthy animals.
She has two jackets in there thanks to joyce
Danny’s been playing FighterZ again, hasn’t he? I recognize that Gogeta win pose.
…dang, it’s not far off, is it.
Post sex Danny is pretty full of himself.
Post sex Sal is also full of Danny, HEEEYO!
I hope not, i do hope they used a condom. Last thing Sal needs is a baby scare, especially if Linda found out.
I hate to say it but…I think if it was with somebody as white as Danny, Linda would not only “forgive” Sal for her “minor slip up,” but support her through it as well.
“Settling down and having kids with a conventional white boy” is probably at the top of their list for her.
Surely she’s on the pill or has an implant.
In the Slipshine Sal tells Danny she has an IUD fitted, and that she’s been tested and she knows where Danny’s been.
I will NEVER touch those. my shark weeks are already hell T_T
I mean, there’s a dozen or so right there on the desk….
If he’s going to be like that with anyone it’s safe with Joe.
Let’s be fair, Joe has earned some teasing from Danny.
He just made sweet love to sal walkerton and had her pouting that they couldn’t cuddle any longer. He’s earned it
okay, sorry not gonna lie… Danny has a point. Masc people wearing their femme/female partners’ clothes can be hot
Imo a cropped jacket is one of the hottest things a guy could wear. It’s such a huge part of the reason Trunks was so fine, and that was his mom’s jacket
Honestly shocked Capsule Corp doesn’t have a fashion division considering how dripped out that family is.
I’m not hearing a “no”.
Joe’s argument is invalid. It says so right in the alt-text.
Danny embracing how… himself he is, kinda makes me like him more.
When Danny becomes more like himself, he could say he’s Danning it up.
It would make Joe so angry.
Also if he’s turning out to be a girl, she can still go by Danny. Then she’ll Dan it even more up.
Get his ass, Danny.
Seize his assets you say?
Joe’s not only mad that Danny is right, but that he gets to be right in a cool jacket.
Danny’s snazzy enough, he should be saying, “Sexile ended, Joe. You may reënter.”
Joe’s mad because he knows Danny’s right.
Oh, Danny GAGGED him
Hehehe..Joe’s expression at the end was an obvious “damn, you’re right.”
could estrogen save her? many are asking
MANY ARE ASKING
MANY MANY MANY
Some very suddenly and somewhar confusedly.
The egg Danny nation begins!!!!!!
Estrogen can save us all.
Love how confidently smug Danny is here.
Very 80s action hero of him.
The question is… is Sal wearing any of his?
None of his clothes are really her style
Idk… underwear…??
If anyone could make that hat look cool…
He’s so deconstructed, so secure on his masculinity, and so well-fucked literally nothing could bring him down. Even Joyce remember his name now.
It has happened. Danny has become too powerful.
He smoke too different
I’ve been thinking about the phrase “secure in his masculinity” a bit lately. I’m not saying its always wrong, but sometimes I feel like the opposite is true too. Some guys are comfortable with an ambiguous gender presentation.
Yeah, it’s kind of old fashioned, but I couldn’t think of a better phrasing. I usually mean it (and tend to hear it) as a dude with no doubts in the Gender Identity department, so anything goes in the Gender Presentation area (including being quite femme)
I think that as our cultural perception of gender evolves, it opens up new ways of thinking about this stuff. In the past, the discourse started and ended with “a straight guy who is feminine must be SO SECURE in his masculinity that he’s not afraid to be called gay or whatever”. A more modern way of looking at it (for some people) might be “masculinity isn’t very important to him”.
“secure in his gender identity” maybe (that probably includes gender presentation and fluctuation right)
I’ll take it o/ Thank you!
Dude’s just secure at the moment. Period.
If anything, he’s secure in his Danity.
Do keep in mind I read these at 1am (at the earliest). I do my best but coherence levels may vary.
Very much agreed though, he’s come into himself and it’s really refreshing to see.
Yup. Masculinity is largely a show, pantomime. I’m a straigh guy, but I don’t worry about it or try to present as male or straight. Those CIS gender games annoy me. Same with women working hard to ”femme” themselves up.
How about “comfortable in his own skin”?
Wearing someone else’s skin tends to be frowned upon.
That’s what it means. There’s more than one way to be masculine, it doesn’t have to be trying to fit some macho mold.
And it starts to feel a little weird when all forms of masculinity are just automatically lumped together in the “Get Rid Of It™” box.
Yeahhhh, it’s kind of sad for us transmasc enby dykes tbh
Note that Joe doesn’t deny it.
Dannys leveled up
But I know who has a leather jacket that will fit Him
( carla )
Carla can probably very easily acquire a jacket that’ll fit him in a pretty short timeframe, but the jackets she currently owns may be long enough for him but will be too narrow for him. He has broad shoulders and she is slender.
Danny 2; Joe 0.
I love Danny so much.
Danny’s got a point.
I really want to see Joe try to rock a sweater vest
Or get one of Joyce’s hoodies over his head long enough to run face-first into a wall
Big Clark Kent energy.
“Hey-o, Joyce! ‘Hey-o’?”
He’d flex and rip it. And then Joyce would jump his bones
Who is this new character talking to Joe? Very smexy.
Confident Danny is so hot!
Joe is not *just* jealous he can’t fit in it. He has additional reasons.
Proud of Danny for this tbh, rock on.
Also I’m not against egg!Danny theories but I personally like the niche he fills in the main cast as he is. Unraveling societal rules about what’s acceptable for a cis man to do, and then freely doing those things without shame, is nice.
Reroll
Leslie is nice but we can do better
Hope everyone’s had a nice weekend
Y’know what, sure, I’ll take the Jennifer for now
Aw but Leslie fit the comment so nicely :’33
Agreeing with you btw /o/
(coming back to say that I meant that “acceptable” to be in quotations, obviously. I just think it’s healthy for Danny to explore these things)
You said societal rules, I think that automatically means “bs and arbitrary”. You’re good
At the start of the comic I feel like he was anxious about fitting in, but now he’s happy to just be himself and do what he wants to do. It’s nice.
Yeah, exactly. I like that for him
Genuinely can’t tell if Joe’s annoyed cause Danny’s right or because he’s so confident in his wrongness
Wrong about what exactly? About masculine stereotypes that he doesn’t care about?
Or about Joe being jealous?
Both, in a way. I think he’s annoyed that their friend dynamic has shifted so much that Danny can confidently assert that he is sexier than Joe is.
In Joe’s head, this is basically the Darth Vader vs. Obi Wan final showdown. “When I left you, I was but a learner. Now, *I* am the master…”
I think Joe wearing Joyce’s clothes would look like a crop top. Which could be kinda hot in itself.
Specifically here.
good memory
Also, time for Joe to take Danny shoe shopping.
Eh, my husband and I share jackets both ways. Of course, I generally buy myself XL ones because I like being enveloped in fleece that comes down to mid-thigh and that I can wrap myself right into, and he’s tall and broad-shouldered (he’s virtually a foot and a half taller than me). I do have some that are more fitted that he doesn’t borrow, and some that were purchased in the women’s section but when I check if he minds when they’re the first ones I find if they’ll fit comfortably he won’t (they’re generally black/grey ones anyway; done up, you cannot tell).
We have reached the point where he’ll let me know that he’s bought us new fleeces because it’s just recognised that most of these are shared ❤️
Joe’s silence can be interpreted in one of two ways:
1) What Danny said is the stupidest thing he’s heard, and he’s waiting for Danny to realise it.
2) He’s silently seething because Danny’s right, and he knows it.
Both, I wager.
He likes the idea, but realizes he couldn’t possibly fit into anything Joyce wears.
I’m sure there are things he could fit a sock over.
(like his index finger, you pervert, what were YOU thinking I meant?)
He got you there, Joe XD
Yep that’s the Danny we all hate
That’s a strange way to spell love.
Ugh. Danny, you’re being incredibly annoying against Joe.
Please, continue.
It gives me the warm fuzzies. Like, everyone around her knows she’s a softy who will let her friends borrow her clothes, despite her grumbling.
Crap, wrong thread.
Too late, you had paid attention to me and I just answered.
Danny is now the third character to wear something of Sal’s in this chapter.
Who’s the third one besides him and Joyce?
Sal, I assume.
Maybe exactly because it’s too short even for Danny, but Sal’s Jacket looks extremely good on him. Joe is 100% jealous.
Game, set, match, Danny.
Post-lay Danny is absolutely running circles around Joe.
He’s got that “just got laid” energy?
as someone who picked up a rad women’s jacket, one which I can’t fit in because the shoulders are just a little too narrow on it: how dare you Danny
So true Dan
Joe: “…okay that’s true but ANYWAY…”
heh
I’m sure Joyce has a scarf or something he can wear
more men should wear ill-fitted ‘girlfriend’ shirtsl ol