I hope that this goes well, and that they all simply game and sit around in their pajamas/underwear. Unfortunately my spider sense tells me things will not go well, can’t imagine why.
Well, Dorothy’s got some flexibility/comfort in her sexuality, holding hands while sexually exciting Joyce. Maybe this display of skin will tip her over into complete submissive bi+sexuality and we’ll get the patreon orgy fest we’ve all wanted.
@Jo : yeah i understand her being surprised but ‘what the actual fuck’ is a bit of an overreaction. unless she’s interpreting it as them being ‘flirty’ right after walky turned her down or so
Dorothy: I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt. I wish to watch cartoons, and I know you partake. May I see a Transformer? Is there more than one? Will I find the plot hard to follow?
TBH I get the feeling that the idea of “mindless fun” for her isn’t actually decompressing and relaxing, it’s just another form of checking a box in her head that will solve her problem so she can get back to her unreasonable high standard for herself. Total guess though.
Garbageskow remains a favorite ship of mine because of moments like panel 5. Walky and Amber are just so dang compatible – they just seem like great friends.
*says the person who literally married their long-time BFF
Walky and Amber like Nachitos as their mindless-fun snack. What is the best quick, easy snack for you when you want to veg out, space out, be passively entertained, or engage in a vacuous pastime? How do you like to engage your autonomic nervous system via snacks?
Depends if I want sweet or salty,
Sweet: girl scout thin mint pretzels
Salty: honey bbq frittos
The down side: I’m Canadian and both of these products are only available in the states FML. My in-law’s buy me them in bulk whenever they do a trip across the border, which thankfully is a few times a year lol
We finally have ketchup chips in the ny north country! It never made sense that being 45 minutes from the border we didn’t have ketchup Chios. We’ve had all dressed for years, but ketchup? Nope. It was very sad.
Waitwaitwait, thin mint pretzels? I’m normally not a fan of chocolate and mint together, but you add some saltiness to the equation and we’re playing a whole new ball game.
I mean the girl guides in Canada also sell thin mint cookies, and are doing so currently as it is autumn. And in my humble (biased) opinion, the Canadian ones are better.
WAIT I FORGOT ABOUT THESE just last month I spent a week trying to find any sort of dark mint chocolate at a reasonable price available in canada outside the holiday season and all I could find were lindt bars which make a mess if you try to eat them in bed. I have no idea how to get my hands on them though if I don’t know anybody who knows kids. maybe I can leave a note in the break room at work and cross my fingers lmao
same problem, my favourite snack is dark chocolate mint M&Ms but I am in canada so I have to stock up any time I’m in the US. even at christmas time canada only gets milk chocolate mint M&Ms, which Are Not the same
Cheetos has this thing called puffcorn, which is pretty good. But hilariously, they have a version that is still Cheetos branded but contains ZERO CHEETO FLAVORING. It’s just butter flavored puffed popcorn with a picture of a cartoon cheetah on it. And that is my go to, ever since I bought two barrels of cheese balls in a row and ate them both in a month and burnt myself out on cheez for a while
If I had to pick a favorite mindless “vore this while doing other things” snack, I think Chex Mix is probably the main one. I will commit terrible crimes upon my body if you put a bag of that stuff in front of me.
Not really a thing I do, but I will drink tea this way, so: tea. Usually my nice tippy assam (I’m one of those whole-leaf no-teabag-thank-you tea drinkers).
I used to really tear into sour gummy candy when I was younger. Sour dots were my favorite, and my Mom would always pick some up for me when she got some smokes from the gas station. Tragically they make my teeth hurt if I eat too much of them now, so they aren’t as mindless as I’d prefer.
Cheese ball puffs, starlight peppermints, alternating with cinnamon disks hard candy, but I can destroy a barrel of cheese balls in one day if I forget to stop.
I love when the alt-text mirrors my thoughts. It makes me feel like I am doing an extra good job reading this webcomic, which is a normal and possible thing to want
Dorothy can only come up with 4 people who would be involved in mindless childish pop culture fun and who don’t go anywhere. So why should it be shocking that 2 of them are doing that together?
I’m not looking at the archive because I’m supposed to be working on a character sheet, but I’m pretty sure the last time Dorothy saw these two together, Amber had just knocked Walky’s block off.
aaaaaaaa that makes her seeing this sting a little more. not saying she’s in the right or is making the right assumptions about what she is seeing (I’ve platonically hung out with friends in pjs/undies playing video games and no sexytimes occurred) but oooh girl been there done that. so glad college was ages ago for me dear god never send me back.
wait, I’ve changed my mind. Maybe she’s just reacting to the dinosaur bed, if she hasn’t seen it before. Hanging out with your ex in their underwear after rejecting your other ex, citing that you’re a “good boyfriend” is typical behavior, not worth noting.
Am I the only one who can’t tell for sure if they’re both looking at Dorothy guiltily or both completely oblivious to her because they’re deep in their game? And why is this evidence of Willis’s skills?!
Theyre oblivious, you can see the switch at the bottom of the panel and their faces are tilted in a way that indicates to me that they’re still looking at the screen
So now Lucy is gonna walk in on pantsless Walky in a room that smells like fuckin with *two* of his exes. I mean come on people Chekhov’s gun, you KNOW its gonna happen
ok, yeah he’s got pj bottoms. Amber is nopants, Dotty is in pjs that just barely could qualify as shorts (that totally would read as boxers if Walky was wearing them), Dina is currently sporting Schrodinger’s pants until we get a better view
So, I’m flipping a coin here — Walky and his two exes playing video games in their underwear right as Lucy comes by and she gets intensely jealous and suspicious? Or is this going to kick the “relaxing” can down the road because Dorothy just got blocked from a way to unwind?
I’m not sure if people remember that the last time Walky and Dorothy talked, she tried to get back with him (or at least hook up) and he turned her down because he was dating Lucy now. To me that’s what this is going to be about now, but maybe not. It just feels like it might compound Dorothy’s spiral?
I think that’s the main reading of it here. Dorothy just got turned down by Walky, and now she seems him playing video games with Amber in his pajamas. Even if she doesn’t think something sexual is happening, she’s going to be hurt.
It took me this many years from the beginning of this comic to realize something profoundly different from my college dorm experience. People don’t go home every weekend? Our dorm was like 90% empty on any given weekend
I don’t know if IU is actually different or if it’s just more convenient for plot and character to keep all the main cast around on weekends, except for major events.
The fact that she automatically associates Becky with “fun” is one more point in favour of the “Dorothy is as invested in Becky’s hate-friendship as she is” theory.
That’s exactly why! Dorothy said she was too busy to spend time with Joyce, and Joyce said that was fine and she would be ready for her to come back. Obviously, she can’t say “Hey, it turns out I’m not too busy to spend time with you, and maybe it turns out being too busy to spend time with you is really, really unhealthy?” because … because then everything would be fine and HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY A MENTAL HEALTH DAY IF EVERYTHING’S FINE???
Let’s be honest here, Dorothy. It’s not that weird for two people to have an idea like this, and frankly Walky has a much stronger rapport with Amber in this regard. You’ve hung out with her casually as a friend… when before, exactly? This situation doesn’t really warrant a “what the actual fuck” once you think about it.
Unless the accidental hand-touch in the nachito bag turns into a makeout session, that would probably warrant it.
So what are the odds that Dorothy ends up joining them and we eventually get Lucy finding Walky we think both of his pantsless exes for a repeat WTF, hahaha
Amber: Irreedemable and unloved, I am free to be the worst version of myself.
Everyone else: Ooh, I should hang out with Amber! She’s just what I need.
Dorothy is at the point where she’s going down a list of basically good advice, applying it by the letter, and it’s still not working. The sad thing is, I think she won’t know what she *actually* needs until she finds out the hard way.
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Well this’ll be fun.
I hope that this goes well, and that they all simply game and sit around in their pajamas/underwear. Unfortunately my spider sense tells me things will not go well, can’t imagine why.
well dina will stil lbe there so hopefully it’d be less tension. or walky putting his foot in his mouth like “…Threesome?” XD
I will never forgive Walky if he hurts Lucy
Well, Dorothy’s got some flexibility/comfort in her sexuality, holding hands while sexually exciting Joyce. Maybe this display of skin will tip her over into complete submissive bi+sexuality and we’ll get the patreon orgy fest we’ve all wanted.
Maybe. Personally, I’m waiting for all the analysis of how bad a person Dorothy is for entering without knocking and not respecting boundaries.
Or Dorothy could just take off her pants and join the dinosaur.
I repeat
Open the door
Pants on the floor
Party on the beanbag dinosaur
Woooo! 11/10
boom boom shakalakalaka boom
boom boom shakalaka boomboom
That sounds more like a Slipshine to me.
I don’t think Dorothy has been through enough self-discovery to be submissive yet.
If she were to get involved in sexual power play at this stage, she’d be a service top for sure.
By the end of the day the whole cast is in Amber’s room in pjs playing games and eating chips.
that would actually be a really cute wrap-around cover for one of the books
Seconded
they’ll have finished the chips by then
“clearly I’m seeing things” *takes melatonin and goes back to bed*
ETHAN was a hikikomori, of COURSE they’d forget
“Amber isn’t?” there have been active attempts to prevent her case from worsening
Also, one of Dorothy’s criteria was “easy to find”. Ethan wears all black now, in poor light he’s actually quite well camouflaged.
Are you studying Ethan as a possible enemy got the next series, Doctor?
And, i don’t rly think dorothy and ethan were particularly friends, even when he was ‘dating’ joyce i think their interactions was limited
With great self-sabotage comes no great ‘then they’ll be sorry’ moment from the big, bad world whatsoever no matter how much you “deserved better.”
i mean, it’s not like they’re making out ,so i don’t think it’d be too weird for walky to visit and ‘chill’ with amber
I mean, if he can be friends with Dorothy after they broke up why can’t he also be friends with amber?
Because! That’s why.
@Jo : yeah i understand her being surprised but ‘what the actual fuck’ is a bit of an overreaction. unless she’s interpreting it as them being ‘flirty’ right after walky turned her down or so
But it’s INDIRECT HANDHOLDING
And since they are putting their hands up to their mouths, does that also count as indirect kiss?
And then when they go to pee and clean up after? It’s the indirect oral sex!
And they’re both looking at the Switch, so it’s an indirect loving gaze.
Only if the angle of incidence equals the angle of refraction for both of them tho :p
physics!!!
Dude I’m so tired I read that as taking melanin and did a double take
Dorothy: I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt. I wish to watch cartoons, and I know you partake. May I see a Transformer? Is there more than one? Will I find the plot hard to follow?
Yes, yes and what the hell is a ‘plot’?
Finally someone is asking the right questions
Nah, the right question is “when the fuck?”
I’ll do you one better, why the Fuck?!
Why seems obvious.
“where” and “when” are the key questions.
One should always be conscientious of the partner(s) and be sure to ask “How the fuck?”
What is that smell?
Stale sex, fresh Nachitos.
Dammit now I want that as a scented candle.
Don’t ask Dorothy, just take a seat and ask someone to pass you some nachitos.
if there’d be any left lol. i’m surprised dorothy herself wouldn’t also bring snacks/an offering
Yes, Dorothy, a wonderful dream land with video games and the Dinosaur Empress awaits you!!! 🥰🦖🎮🌈☄️🤩
Welp, the commentariat called it. Can’t wait to see how badly this goes.
And now we’re only missing one of Walky’s harem.
That’s right. Danny.
Oh, I thought it’d be Asher.
Woo! She recognized that she needs mindless fun, not more sleep! Way to avoid the depressive spiral!
i mean, as long as the ‘mindless fun’ doesn’t turn into playing vid games for 8 hours straight lol
If you’re me that’s basically your job. :p
What’s your job?
I program video games. One of the few professions where you can work and be lazy at the same time. 😛
TBH I get the feeling that the idea of “mindless fun” for her isn’t actually decompressing and relaxing, it’s just another form of checking a box in her head that will solve her problem so she can get back to her unreasonable high standard for herself. Total guess though.
Hey, NG, she followed your advice! 😀
Hey yeah!!! 😄 She needs a day of fun and games,
Speaking of which, imma treat myself as well, finally got the code to work for a zipline in a platformer game commission, pizza here i come! 😋
Congratulations!
https://i.imgur.com/5WzbkPv.png (Suggestive)
I wanted to draw more Sarah but the idea I had woulda been really time consuming so forgive me for this lazy one.
nice and no worries lol
hahahaha, lazy? to a porn-demigod in training, maybe?
to the commentariat, this is quality stuff, 🤩
In what world would someone need to “forgive” Joyce’s pantied ass? This is quality content.
We have been blessed this day!
I really like your art style!
I love your style so much, they look so soft
The ship has sailed. It’s sailing forbidden waters but it’s afloat!
Garbageskow remains a favorite ship of mine because of moments like panel 5. Walky and Amber are just so dang compatible – they just seem like great friends.
*says the person who literally married their long-time BFF
No nachitos, overdressed, no entry
“must be at least *this* nude to enter”
She’s no more dressed than Amber, unless she put on pants offscreen. Certainly no more dressed than Walky.
No snack offering counts against her though.
This is when people (and Walky) remember that Dorothy shares a half bath with Amber, huh.
Also where is Becky? She’s been surprisingly quiet for a while.
And she isn’t with Dina either. Mighty suspicious.
She might be at work this afternoon.
Dorothy had to many of those weed multi vitamin gummies… or not enough
…Would anyone be up for an early game?
Here’s the question:
Walky and Amber like Nachitos as their mindless-fun snack. What is the best quick, easy snack for you when you want to veg out, space out, be passively entertained, or engage in a vacuous pastime? How do you like to engage your autonomic nervous system via snacks?
I can go: Wasabi peas!
And sheet after sheet of Costco dried nori, while watching old sitcoms.
Puffy Cheetos and Tetris
Depends. Pretzels are nice, though I really love a good salt and vinegar or pickle chip.
Depends if I want sweet or salty,
Sweet: girl scout thin mint pretzels
Salty: honey bbq frittos
The down side: I’m Canadian and both of these products are only available in the states FML. My in-law’s buy me them in bulk whenever they do a trip across the border, which thankfully is a few times a year lol
Okay, but do you have access to pickle chips in Canada? I miss them so much.
**ketchup chips, jfc
We finally have ketchup chips in the ny north country! It never made sense that being 45 minutes from the border we didn’t have ketchup Chios. We’ve had all dressed for years, but ketchup? Nope. It was very sad.
But now you may rejoice!!!
Waitwaitwait, thin mint pretzels? I’m normally not a fan of chocolate and mint together, but you add some saltiness to the equation and we’re playing a whole new ball game.
I mean the girl guides in Canada also sell thin mint cookies, and are doing so currently as it is autumn. And in my humble (biased) opinion, the Canadian ones are better.
WAIT I FORGOT ABOUT THESE just last month I spent a week trying to find any sort of dark mint chocolate at a reasonable price available in canada outside the holiday season and all I could find were lindt bars which make a mess if you try to eat them in bed. I have no idea how to get my hands on them though if I don’t know anybody who knows kids. maybe I can leave a note in the break room at work and cross my fingers lmao
same problem, my favourite snack is dark chocolate mint M&Ms but I am in canada so I have to stock up any time I’m in the US. even at christmas time canada only gets milk chocolate mint M&Ms, which Are Not the same
Lately I cannot even find the regular dark chocolate M&Ms.
Goldfish Crackers. I’m eating them right now. They’re probably why i’m fat.
The wholesome snack that smiles back until you bite their heads off!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBDWLM2AphA
Cheetos has this thing called puffcorn, which is pretty good. But hilariously, they have a version that is still Cheetos branded but contains ZERO CHEETO FLAVORING. It’s just butter flavored puffed popcorn with a picture of a cartoon cheetah on it. And that is my go to, ever since I bought two barrels of cheese balls in a row and ate them both in a month and burnt myself out on cheez for a while
If I had to pick a favorite mindless “vore this while doing other things” snack, I think Chex Mix is probably the main one. I will commit terrible crimes upon my body if you put a bag of that stuff in front of me.
cereal and grilled cheese!!! 😋
Oh and hotdogs and burgers! Anything I can eat while I use my phone or PC 😊
radishes or dark chocolate chips.
Not really a thing I do, but I will drink tea this way, so: tea. Usually my nice tippy assam (I’m one of those whole-leaf no-teabag-thank-you tea drinkers).
Texas Trash. Which is like Chex Mix only better.
I used to really tear into sour gummy candy when I was younger. Sour dots were my favorite, and my Mom would always pick some up for me when she got some smokes from the gas station. Tragically they make my teeth hurt if I eat too much of them now, so they aren’t as mindless as I’d prefer.
Either Cheez-Its or Ruffles with onion dip!
Jelly beans.
Cheese ball puffs, starlight peppermints, alternating with cinnamon disks hard candy, but I can destroy a barrel of cheese balls in one day if I forget to stop.
WOW… so many DEE-LICORISH SNAX!
I want to make a Schmerger Beard (smörgåsbord) of all of them!
Dish delish! ;-9
@panel 3. What about those two guys next door to Walky? Ken likes the pop culture fluff, and the other one is kind of cute. What’s his name again?
I salute your unending devotion to keeping Arnold front and centre.
I love when the alt-text mirrors my thoughts. It makes me feel like I am doing an extra good job reading this webcomic, which is a normal and possible thing to want
And you *are* doing an extra good job of reading the comic. Way to go and keep it up! 👍👍
Ethan’s… preoccupied, I guess. So’s all of the laundry room. Guess what they’re playing then, because it surely needs a P3 to make it interesting.
Crawling back to Joyce? Who’s zooming who?
Dorothy recognized the co-dependency in her relationship with Joyce and tried to distance herself by teaching Joyce to be more self-reliant.
…is certainly one way of putting it.
Dorothy can only come up with 4 people who would be involved in mindless childish pop culture fun and who don’t go anywhere. So why should it be shocking that 2 of them are doing that together?
I’m not looking at the archive because I’m supposed to be working on a character sheet, but I’m pretty sure the last time Dorothy saw these two together, Amber had just knocked Walky’s block off.
She saw them at least as recently as when they had cake for Becky’s mother, a little over a week before this chapter.
They had a fight and broke up
Last conversation we saw (thursday):
https://www.dumbingofage.com/failed-2
aaaaaaaa that makes her seeing this sting a little more. not saying she’s in the right or is making the right assumptions about what she is seeing (I’ve platonically hung out with friends in pjs/undies playing video games and no sexytimes occurred) but oooh girl been there done that. so glad college was ages ago for me dear god never send me back.
wait, I’ve changed my mind. Maybe she’s just reacting to the dinosaur bed, if she hasn’t seen it before. Hanging out with your ex in their underwear after rejecting your other ex, citing that you’re a “good boyfriend” is typical behavior, not worth noting.
the nachitos bag represents russia
the stuffed dinosaur represents the ural mountain range
Russia is being shared? The Ural mountain range smells of sex?
I think I’ve lost the thread of the analogy somewhere.
If Amber is China then it makes sense, they really thirst for those Siberian resources.
I thought they were playing Mario Kart, not Scythe 😗
Now I know why my work colleague Vasily flies home to go hiking so much
That’s like…3rd base as far as I’m concerned.
…. so now Walky’s going to be cartoon-watch-cheating on Lucy with TWO ex-girlfriends at the same time.
(Yes, I know that’s not a thing but it’s still going to be a thing.)
Could be a thing. I’m hopeful
Oooh, the elusive “I have to manage how frequently I engage with certain people/places” anxiety, my old nemesis
Am I the only one who can’t tell for sure if they’re both looking at Dorothy guiltily or both completely oblivious to her because they’re deep in their game? And why is this evidence of Willis’s skills?!
Theyre oblivious, you can see the switch at the bottom of the panel and their faces are tilted in a way that indicates to me that they’re still looking at the screen
I love that Dorothy usually keeps her language pretty clean, but when she swears she tends to drop f-bombs.
So now Lucy is gonna walk in on pantsless Walky in a room that smells like fuckin with *two* of his exes. I mean come on people Chekhov’s gun, you KNOW its gonna happen
No, this is a Willis comic. The other shoe usually takes a while to drop.
Though I would love to be wrong.
But when it does drop, boy does it ever.
To be honest, it’s actually less suspicious the more people are there
LMAO I FORGOT ABOUT THE AFOREMENTIONED SEX SMELL
Walky’s wearin pants.
ok, yeah he’s got pj bottoms. Amber is nopants, Dotty is in pjs that just barely could qualify as shorts (that totally would read as boxers if Walky was wearing them), Dina is currently sporting Schrodinger’s pants until we get a better view
So, I’m flipping a coin here — Walky and his two exes playing video games in their underwear right as Lucy comes by and she gets intensely jealous and suspicious? Or is this going to kick the “relaxing” can down the road because Dorothy just got blocked from a way to unwind?
Awe damn. Seemingly an impossible choice, unless Lucy also decides to join.
As was foretold!
I’m not sure if people remember that the last time Walky and Dorothy talked, she tried to get back with him (or at least hook up) and he turned her down because he was dating Lucy now. To me that’s what this is going to be about now, but maybe not. It just feels like it might compound Dorothy’s spiral?
I think that’s the main reading of it here. Dorothy just got turned down by Walky, and now she seems him playing video games with Amber in his pajamas. Even if she doesn’t think something sexual is happening, she’s going to be hurt.
“I must not have fun. Full is the time-killer.”
– Doon
The way the door is opening, she is just about to leave her room and not entering Ambers. So the WTF might be an internal “What am I about to do? Eff”
> This is when people (and Walky) remember that Dorothy shares a half bath with Amber, huh.
Wow yes I completely forgot about that.
It took me this many years from the beginning of this comic to realize something profoundly different from my college dorm experience. People don’t go home every weekend? Our dorm was like 90% empty on any given weekend
was your college mostly locals (not necessarily RIGHT there local, but within an hour or so)?
Maybe not 90%, but a lot, in my experience.
I don’t know if IU is actually different or if it’s just more convenient for plot and character to keep all the main cast around on weekends, except for major events.
if you had their parents, would you want to go home?
The fact that she automatically associates Becky with “fun” is one more point in favour of the “Dorothy is as invested in Becky’s hate-friendship as she is” theory.
I think it’s really nice that from Dorothy’s perspective, her relationship with Becky is actually uncomplicated.
Amber’s REAL popular today.
It’s kind of sad that Dorothy feels she can’t go see Joyce right now. Joyce would be ecstatic to spend time with her.
Joyce is probably still with Joe. It might be awkward.
That’s exactly why! Dorothy said she was too busy to spend time with Joyce, and Joyce said that was fine and she would be ready for her to come back. Obviously, she can’t say “Hey, it turns out I’m not too busy to spend time with you, and maybe it turns out being too busy to spend time with you is really, really unhealthy?” because … because then everything would be fine and HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY A MENTAL HEALTH DAY IF EVERYTHING’S FINE???
Let’s be honest here, Dorothy. It’s not that weird for two people to have an idea like this, and frankly Walky has a much stronger rapport with Amber in this regard. You’ve hung out with her casually as a friend… when before, exactly? This situation doesn’t really warrant a “what the actual fuck” once you think about it.
Unless the accidental hand-touch in the nachito bag turns into a makeout session, that would probably warrant it.
They’d have to go to the roof for that. You gotta put on pants to go to the roof. I think we’re safe from everything, but conjecture.
This might become Joyce’s party 2.0
We’re about to get a Slipshine set entirely in Dorothy’s mind, aren’t we?
mind, blown
*laugh track*
Check your pants at the door
So what’s that color? Magenta? Fuchsia? Hot pink?
So what are the odds that Dorothy ends up joining them and we eventually get Lucy finding Walky we think both of his pantsless exes for a repeat WTF, hahaha
Time for Dorothy x Amber ship sweep!!!
“Everyone forgets Ethan.”
I thought we were looking for fun today. Sorry, but Ethan’s not a fun nerd, currently.
Who is Ethan? Or does everyone forget?
Walky: I said I couldn’t date you instead of Lucy. I never said anything about being friends with no romantic attachment.
Amber: You introduced me to your parents as your girlfriend less than 24 hours ago.
Walky: …Okay, that’s true, but that was Lucy’s idea.
Dorothy: So if I get Lucy on board, it’s fine?
Walky: I guess?
Lucy: A threesome HAS to count as a date.
But wait didn’t she already have a third date?
Amber: Irreedemable and unloved, I am free to be the worst version of myself.
Everyone else: Ooh, I should hang out with Amber! She’s just what I need.
Dorothy is at the point where she’s going down a list of basically good advice, applying it by the letter, and it’s still not working. The sad thing is, I think she won’t know what she *actually* needs until she finds out the hard way.
Lucy better walk in on this. It’ll be weird to see him hanging out with BOTH of his ex girlfriends.
Hands in the cookie jar! Together!
They’ll have to get married now!
Really not liking Dorothy’s whole framing of Joyce here.