especially if her family had a ‘no passwords because we should be able to look at what you’re doing at any time’ policy, which could have changed since their falling out, but I could also see her being like ‘well I’m not around my family so I don’t have to password it anyway’
Yeah i doubt she has one. In highschool my friends used to try get in my phone all the time bc we all thought boundary stomping and pissing each other off was hilarious (i did too tbf), so.code needed.
Side note, remember back in the day when your friends would steal your phone and mash random shit for the code to lock you out for like 5 billion years?
No, but all of my brothers who got on the smart phone train before me would regularly copy+paste entire Wikipedia articles and then text them to me, locking my phone down from anywhere between 30 minutes and 4 hours, depending on the size of the article.
my partner and I are thumbprinted into each other’s phones. it pretty much only comes up in the car, for “can you change the album we’re listening to?” or “who’s texting me? what are they saying?”
Yeah, I know my husband’s code but I only use it if he asks me to google something for him and his phone is closer/easier to find. Just casually going through it without his say so is a no-no and outright rude.
And I thought Becky was the one with no boundries…
My best friends know/knew how to unlock my phone in case there was an emergency, or if I can’t stop doing something then they can unlock my phone to answer a text.
The only way this can backfire is if your friends are like mine and will make an embarrassing or nonsensical Facebook update once in a blue moon.
I’m not concerned that she has access for reasons above (maybe no password- she probably didn’t have one when Becky was playing with/screening calls on her phone), but I’m a little concerned about Dorothy being in possession of the phone.
See, I’m the opposite.
I’m much more willing to let someone borrow my devices for some expressed purpose than I am to let them have my passcode to unlock said devices.
That said, Dorothy being in possession of the phone *without Joyce knowing* is equally as bothersome to me as her being able to unlock it, which seems to be the case here (I’m relatively sure this was your focus, but didn’t want to put words in your mouth).
Yeah, by saying Dorothy had possession of it, I meant without Joyce knowing and also that Dorothy was already using it (as opposed to “I brought your phone, can I bring some stuff up on it” which would be odd since she could have just told Joyce to bring it, but valid enough)
also I don’t disagree with you re accessing it. I’m the only one with access to my computer at all, and I still do all my google searches and stuff I’m even mildly embarrassed about in private tabs so if someone somehow used my computer, they wouldn’t see it in the history. I meant that I don’t think Dorothy snuck into it or made Joyce share her password or anything like that, not that it’s not concerning that she decided to access it.
Yeah, but Joyce needs the phone for when they get down to serious discussion of “why we’re here” and she says, “see! We’ve been texting for weeks, and he’s really nice when you get to know him.”
evidently not for joyce, or she would have shown literally any negative reaction in comic. like, yeah in real life that might be an issue but this is a story being told and we are not being given any indication that its a problem and not just, a story contrivance to make a joke
This entire storyline has been bending Joyce backwards to make it happen. Unless you think a time skip of a few hours was really enough to go from “Leave me the hell alone!” explicitly concerning sex talk to “Yeah, you can teach me to masturbate as you once again negate my agency.”
Honestly, been so burnt out by this all that even when I found a comment saying Dorothy went through the phone, it still didn’t click until now
This arc is exhausting
Joyce acting weird
People defending Dorothy’s boundary stomping when it hasn’t even been, what, 24 hours? since Joyce shouted at everybody to screw off with the sex talk
Willis best have a point with this arc. I joked about a Slipshine because of how shocked I was, but if this actually is all just to lead to a contrived Dorothy x Joyce Slipshine, I’ll be kind of disgusted
It really would be better.
Source: My roommate took his box spring and mattress off the frame so ‘it won’t squeak’ and literally fucked his girlfriend while I was sleeping in the same room.
It was worse when he was fucking her while I wasn’t around… He would lock the door to the bedroom and fall asleep before he could unlock it, which lead to me eventually just sleeping on the goddamned couch in the suite’s common room every night.
Joyce is subscribed at “Cragged Shame Pits of the Lustwolves” tier. It’s an upgrade over “Pre-Marital Hanky Panky” Tier, you get to read each smutfic a day early.
I feel like if Nightwing tried to get up in those cheeks, he’d get burst like a grape. The Insatiable Hunk done got that dumpy. Absolutely cheeked freak. Crush hazard, for sure.
I don’t know, she clearly knows more than she admits too. However I don’t think she has done it yet because of her upbringing and/or because she has complicated feelings on anything sexual.
Dorothy can’t provide Joyce a vibrator, because she would ultimately lose the active bet she has going with Joyce about Joyce’s capacity to present her a receipt, indicating purchase of a marital aid. I can’t remember the other boundary conditions of the wager, but Dorothy would be own-goaling herself socially, and I do not think she’s in the mood for that, lmao.
The Slipshine practically writes itself. The dryer is enough to get Joyce hot and bothered but not get her off. Dorothy takes her somewhere more private to finish the lesson. Dorothy demonstrates, and Joyce starts leaning on for a closer look, and closer, and…
*ahem* Y’know, I think there’s a fine line between this wager and a fanfiction contest.
For one Joyce definitely knows more than she fronts. She is the whiteboard ding dong bandit, and a fan of Amber’s “literature”.
Second, my bet is she doesn’t finish. I think the more public nature of this space will have her come up a bit short. Unless people getting off in the laundry room is a regular thing and they put like a sock on the door or something.
Oh, I definitely agree she knows more than she is willing to admit. As for the second thing, that is entirely possible and if this doesn’t get her there I wonder what Dorothy will do next.
If this just ends up leaving her feeling hot and bothered, I could almost see it going full-on Slipshine with demanding that – since it’s Dotty’s fault she’s feeling all wound up like this – Dotty should do the right thing and darned-well finish her off! xD
That’s my question too actually. We know Joyce is reading smut, does Dorothy have some old fashioned hardcover smut of her own or is that a textbook? Which is less awkward getting off with your bestie or studying while your bestie gets off in the same room at your encouragement?
To be honest, I kind of expect Dorothy’s reasoning is this is like, the most entry level of stimulation, that whether or not she finished, her starting would make her more amicable to masturbation.
If there was a horse to ride, they’d do that instead.
I think this comment section is just so collectively comfortable with pounding mound, they’re forgetting that the major problem Joyce has to overcome is emotional, not intellectual. She’s not literally too dumb to figure out how her parts work, she’s traumatized by her upbringing. I’m sure Dorothy could give her some tips and tricks and things to try, but the mechanics are probably not the part of the problem that Dorothy is focused on overcoming, here.
Though I don’t have Patreon, so who knows, we might find out tomorrow that this scenario is going to go as insane as everybody expected.
Yeah, this is more about getting Joyce in a relaxed and receptive mood to be ready to go further in the presence of / with others.
Unless it turns out that Joyce is hilariously sensitive down there and this really hits the spot for her, or gets her massively wound-up and then she demands that Dotty do the right thing and finish her off like a good girl…either of those scenarios could prove to be a funny way for this to end! xD
feels like a very outdated 1950s housewife kinda thing/something before proper vibrators were invented? I’m sure ppl have tried alternative stuff before esp given a limited budget or restrictive family
They’ve also met the Harlem Globetrotters, and while the Globetrotters can’t compete with Batman in the number of gadgets, they do outnumber him and have almost as large a number of tricks, just more basketball related than crime related, so they would be a worthy rival for the Scooby gang’s attention/affection.
I’m just saying, if someone asked me “do you want to witness the Harlem Globetrotters do an orgy,” there is a 0.00% chance I would say no. You gotta think that would be pretty fucking spectacular!
I had an idea for a Scooby Doo Smut comic where they solve a mystery and they end up splitting up and all having sexual encounters with the “ghosts” and at the end it’s revealed that it’s just a group of fans who staged the mystery cuz they wanted to get with the scooby doo gang. 😛 But that seems hard to draw.
So this is self-indulgent for Amber, but Joyce isn’t that into it. And it’s slash. Amber definitely goes for angst and brooding goths. Bucky, Batman, tortured dudes who think they’re not worthy of love. Based on the sliding timescale, RPatz Batman/Jim Gordon.
Joyce wants more noble heroes and doesn’t have daddy issues, so she doesn’t love it, but she’s a Twilight fangirl and it’s RPatz, so she’s still into it.
Batman/superman is best of both worlds. One of the few m/m pairings Ive indulged in because wholesome noble beefcake with brooding angst boy is a fun dynamic
We’ve seen Joyce avidly perusing some fine romantic Literature! featuring Clark’s “hot sirloin” and Bruce getting it “well done”, so yeah, this is on the money.
Amber’s most self-indulgent fanfics are going to be Dinobot/Cheetor or something like that. I do not know if Joyce is into robots, but Amber certainly is.
but I’d posit it’s because she wants to be the one to help joyce, for self-image and ego reasons, and also she genuinely wants to help joyce but is addled with stress and therefor she rushed into this and hasn’t done any real planning or consideration about it
Yeah. It was mere months ago that Joyce was insisting to Ruth that she is asexual, the first moment that she such a thing existed.
Joyce made huge progress in letting go of her hang-ups in a general sense, but Dorothy is probably right that she could use some help acknowledging to herself that these things are no just ok in theory but also in practice.
Also, “you know” here doesn’t necessarily mean Joyce has previous knowledge on how to find a vibrating device for pleasure without going to a sex shop.
100% I’m pretty damn sure she means “you know, bc you have functioning nerve endings and you are feeling, right now, as we speak, because you are doing it now.”
I mean…I wondered the same thing. If Joyce is ready to start learning about her sexuality, more power to her. But why do this half-assed, convoluted, SUPER PUBLIC thing with the dryer when sex shops/the internet exist? Why not pick out a vibrator, hand her the phone with Amber’s fanfiction queued up, and put a sock on the door? I mean I feel like for someone who is working through so much shame, doing this in a public place where someone could walk in (I mean, we saw how it went with Carla, and this is when everyone still had pants on) seems like a recipe for disaster. There’s something to be said for directness, sure, but there’s also something to be said for privacy. I honestly think Roz, Jennifer, or even Sarah would be a better choice, since they wouldn’t mince words but they wouldn’t complicate the shit out of things either.
I suspect the theory is that Joyce isn’t ready to do something as direct as use a vibrator on herself. This is a way of building up to it without jumping right to that all at once.
And without being as invasive as demonstrating it or worse.
It cracks me up how Joyce went full blown ape shit when Dorothy helped her pick up her medication, but when Dorothy asks “Do you want to try masturbating in the laundry room,” she basically said “Sure let me grab me things.”
Because she’s exhausted. She’s tried to defend her boundaries but Dorothy keeps walking over them so now she’s not even sure where those are at this point. I don’t think Dorothy did this on purpose, but she pretty much just wore her down.
my question is why are they doing this in the public laundry room. if i had to do my laundry and i walked into my dorms’ laundry room to this extremely homoerotic scene id place a phone call directly to the president. of the united states.
Hey, I’m impressed they’ve got the phone number of the president of the United States handy. I shall assume it was given to them specifically for reporting any homoerotic scenes they might run into.
i can understand sneaking around but other than a semi private area and ppl knowing a head of time, being an exhibitionist probably would be frowned upon because strangers can’t consent, feels like you’d def get fined if not arrested for ‘public indecency’
In the vein of Joyce:
I have absolutely never never never EVER gotten myself off in public. Multiple times. Including in a shopping centre, on a train (one that did not have toilets on board) and during class. EVERRRRRRRR.
I mean, people sit on the machines for non sexual reasons. I think it’s comfortable. If i walked in I’d just assume their stuff was in those specific machines and they didn’t wanna leave it unattended. It’s a pretty tame scene out of context
As for Joyce being in panties I’d assume she was just washing her last half good pair of pants
From what we’ve seen, Amber’s slashfics seem to be of the male on male variety. (Batman and Superman, etc.) We know Joyce has read them, but does she have an actual sexual interest in the content? Or does Amber also write non-gay slashfics?
Joyce initially discovered Amber’s “literature” from Batman vs Superman. We also saw her blushing like crazy at the idea that Ethan could watch “dude porn” (i.e. gay porn) and that she should not have that knowledge.
True, she was ‘flustered’ when Ethan mentioned what was referred to as ‘dude smut’. But it is possible that her interest was more in the aspect of “attractive near naked men” (from an appearance perspective) rather than the whole gay sex thing.
The last panel here strongly indicates that Joyce does in fact have an interest in Amber’s fics, as does the previous time we’ve SEEN her reading them and becoming quite intrigued
Though Amber wouldn’t NEED to write m/w pairings for Joyce to have sexual interest in them? Joyce definitely likes dudes. Gay pairings have twice the dudes. It’s pretty straightforward
Like, why do you think Amber is writing so much gay dude fics?
A LOT of women (both straight and lesbian) prefer m/m pairings partly because it’s often more equitable in terms of power dynamics and pleasure dynamics. As I awkwardly found out after coming across my (also lesbian) mother’s porn collection. Im guessing it’s also because more hot dudes.
Also the same reason why so many men prefer lesbian porn, twice as many hot chicks. Also instructive, they think that lesbian porn shows what women like. Which if it’s actually made for women, it does, but most lesbian porn was made for dudes, because twice as many women and no risk of pregnancy for the actresses.
To answer that: lots of straight guys love reading f/f fiction – I know I do – more than m/f. It’s about what fantasies turn you on, not necessarily ones you could ever be a participant in if they happened to be real. 🙂
finally have to ask. how normal is it for girls to sit on the washer/dryer in a communal laundry room? How far it is from Joe with smut magazine? because ich bin unkomfortable right now.
I’m a man but I have the required bits and was mostly friends with girls in my teens and early 20s (largely due to trans), and I can say that even those I often talk about stuff like sex toys with have never mentioned doing this.
I’ve tried it in the basement of my own home before, and honestly, it didn’t do much for me. Maybe the thrill of being in a public place adds to it, idk.
I sat on them sometimes. Not to get off, just because there wasn’t a ton of room in the communal washing rooms for sitting. So I’d go down with my textbooks and sit on the machine while I studied.
It’s not really the most exciting thing in the world, but given where I can get with just my imagination, I feel like that plus a fanfic would have helped.
feels like it’d be easier to find other massaging devices, like an electric toothbrush (though that might be something joyce might not want to associate with every time she brushes her teeth normally, but i imagine even if you did, you’d rather be alone)
There are certainly better ways to get the result, most likely including her own fingers, but those require Joyce to actively masturbate, which she’s not going to do on her own yet. Or for Dorothy to get even more inappropriate in pushing her towards.
I think it’s a little weird to be like “you know how this works” about this particular thing to Joyce, seeing as lots of people in the comments (me included) do not.
It reads to me more like, “you’re on this horse now Joyce. I know you can feel what going on down south.”
Sure if you’re not sitting on the dryer it’s a mystery to some. But to the person sitting on the dryer and pumped full of teenage hormones, and surrounded by stuff that turns you on every day… well, it’s more self evident. (if it does anything at all).
I ship nightwing with a lotta people, but with Bruce it seems weird.
(Honestly I’ve kinda got the same issue with Babs. Like I get it but it just feels like they should be more familial.)
Nooooo
Noooooooo
No batfamcest
ESPECIALLY not batman x any robin
(Dicky and bab is fine depending on the context. But in those contexts batman must under no circumstances try to also fuck babs. I hate that this specific scenario has happened.)
1.) this *~Literature!~* is about Batman, and
2.) Joyce’s imagined perception of Batman recently changed, and
3.) the Bruce Wayne in her head now looks an awful lot like Joseph Rosenthal
SIDENOTE: Holy shit, does Joyce have a masc type (beefcake Jewish dudes with plush rumps)
This has to be one of the,,,I’m not even sure how to describe it, WTF maybe…storylines in DOA.
First Dorothy tells Joyce shes going to learn to masturbate, then takes her to a semi-public place, tells her to remove her pants, tells her to sit on the dryer, not only has access to her phone but also sets up a porn page for Joyce to read while Joyce pleasures herself on a dryer in an area that anyone in the dorm can use and probably gets a lot of use
As well as joining in herself…this is a weird storyline
I, too, was deeply upset to see the fountains of cum in today’s strip.
David Willis, I know you have a disturbing fascination with ejaculate, but really, this was beyond tasteless. It was everywhere! Some even got on the mayor!!
My running theory this whole time is just, that no *actual masturbating* is going to be taking place inside the laundry room, Dorothy is simply making sure that the ol’ downstairs is warmed-up, so to speak. If I’m proven wrong, I’m proven wrong, but maybe the reason the plan seems so stupid, is that everyone is actively expecting the stupidest possible plan? Everyone’s been justifiably grumpy with Dorothy lately, I think they’re primed for her to be making overly-dumb decisions.
Warmed up, so that Joyce can actually tell whether or not she actually likes whichever things Dorothy suggests that she try to start learning to self-stimulate. If Dorothy just gives Joyce a bunch of masturbation techniques on a powerpoint and says to try them, it’s not going to actually teach Joyce anything because she’s not going to actually be horny.
I understand the distinction you’re making compared to direct touching and eventually coming, but I would call stimulating one’s genitals sexually ‘actual masturbation’
Nobody is actually physically touching their bits, or pressing them against a corner of a washer or drier, just innocently sitting in underwear on the nice, warm, slightly vibrating dryers.
Yeah, people seem thoroughly convinced that the dryer is the endgame, that Joyce is meant to stick her hand down her pants in full view, and that she’s intended to fully get off here and now. You can mix and match those any way you want, but I don’t think any of them are true.
See, people like to joke about him being the “fastest man in bed”, but if my man could vibrate his atoms so fast they can go through walls or whatever, I’d be asking some very pointed questions about how much fine control he has and what speed settings he comes with.
This entire comic universe is just a storage depository for all of Amber’s slashiest fics. DoA doesn’t exist, it’s not real. Only the slashfic is real.
I bet she’s perused it at least once out of curiosity, though we know so little about what Dorothy gets off to that it’s hard to know what ticks her boxes.
Like, we know a bit about her taste in men, but beyond that, it’s anyone’s guess.
Idk exactly why, but I’m actually much less creeped by the Dorothy lesson at this point. It seems more of a chill way to just get a little excited and know that it’s normal.
I really don’t understand what everyone is so taken aback with. Joyce knows what masturbation is, and she’s clearly incredibly horny. She has a mental barrier as a result of her upbringing that won’t allow for her to touch herself, it’s a difficult hurdle for her to overcome. Dorothy knows this, and wants to help Joyce by teaching her to dip her toes in the freezing water before she makes a “mistake” with Joe. None of this is creepy, it’s just Dorothy trying to help, and it’s PAINFULLY clear that Joyce is okay with this. Whether or not you agree with *why* Dorothy is trying to help is a different matter.
Also, has no one here seen a movie, or watched a show, or been exposed to any kind of media? Women sitting on a dryer to get off is a common and very old trope. It’s even been referenced before on this website with Sarah getting off on a dryer on an old banner. Whether or not it actually works is again, a different matter. But it’s so obvious that’s what the whole deal with the dryer is about.
But that’s the thing, it doesn’t really matter if it works or not in real life, it’s a trope, so if it’s happening in piece of media, then it works. Unless the trope is being subverted.
I keep trying to give Dorothy the benefit of the doubt in this arc, but damn she makes it hard. it’s really not helpful to say (or demand rather) you’re going to teach someone an aspect of sex ed and then when it gets to gritty part take a step back and say “well, you know”
No Dorothy, she likely doesn’t know, she likely has just a vague idea of how female self-pleasure works. Why would you volunteer yourself to teach her this and then act like a bad health care class teacher who says “we’re not going to talk about PiV sex because you kids watch too much cable and everyone knows about it”?
She does know, she’s being “difficult”. Dorothy is having her do this because she knows Joyce is just horny for Joe, but she wouldn’t touch herself to manage those feelings unless someone helped her overcome her cult brainwashing.
There again with someone so convinced Joyce isn’t emotionally invested in Joe. If she was just horny him being a “libido with a face” would be perfect for her. But she’s not just sexually attracted to Joe, and she’s not okay with him not having any emotional depth.
I see where you could have gotten that interpretation from what I said. I didn’t mean she’s not invested in him emotionally. But also to be fair she was attracted to him physically before his more recent development. I’m sure she’s emotionally invested in him, but Dorothy doesn’t it see it that way, she thinks Joyce is just horny and making a mistake.
Wow, it’s soooo cute how Dorothy has Joyce’s phone without her knowing, has unfettered access to it, and picks picks porn for her in this scenario where Dorothy has chosen and is in control of all of the parameters. So. CUTE.
It’s never established that Joyce didn’t know about Dorothy having her phone. She’s unfazed by it because Joyce probably told her she could have access to it
A lot of things Joyce isn’t reacting negatively to, expresses no problems with, and is completely unfazed by, are being read as offenses lately. People honestly seem to be ignoring that and it’s so annoying. Joyce is a helpless victim with no free will, apparently, despite that never being a trait of hers. She’s consistently spoken up when she becomes uncomfortable, but that’s being thrown out the window because other people wouldn’t react the same way as her.
It’s worth remembering that the last time Joyce expressed significant discomfort with Dorothy pushing her to do something Dorothy pretty much made her do it anyway
Yes she needed to get the eye exam done but it should have been on her own timetable rather then Dorothy making the appointment seconds after hearing it might be an issue
I also LOVE how people are ignoring all of Joyce’s history in this comic and saying we’re all being uptight when Joyce, who was
-Raised in a sex negative cult
-Was nearly date raped
-Just the other day told everybody to screw off with the sex crap
-Who AT THE START OF THIS was taken aback
Is all suddenly gun ho with no explanation at all
It’s as if we may need context soon or something! But hey, because OTHERS call those who are uncomfortable with this paranoid even though they know people who have experienced Sexual Assault or even went through it themselves are having red alarms going off and wondering wtaf is going on!
Willis, please, if we’re not getting the explanation VERY soon, lock the comments
Does Joyce seem “gung ho” to you? To me, she looks like she’s steadily warming up to the idea but is also still nervous. I think it helps that she trusts Dorothy enough to have said “okay” in the first place, as reluctant as she looked at the time.
I fully understand that real people have had some very serious things happen to them and that Joyce’s character arc includes a lot of those things, so it feels a lot more real to those who’ve experienced it. But I don’t think that’s the direction this scene is headed, written, or meant to be read, and I just think it would be nice if we could all collectively stop telling each other to shut the fuck up, and especially calling for the author, the one person who knows where this scene is going, to literally silence everyone until it’s over. If you don’t like the vibe the comments section has right now and want to morally condemn people who aren’t jumping to the worst possible conclusion or have, through their own lived experiences, expressed a lack of discomfort with this scene, that’s your prerogative, but it’s not okay to make that everyone else’s problem and call for total silence until you, personally, are comfortable again. As rude as this may sound, and 8 assure you it comes from a place of understanding and care, it may simply be better for those most affected to detach from the conversation until they feel it can be rejoined without that discomfort.
This plan backfires on Dorothy when Joyce, in need of a more stimulating fantasy to get off, opens a private browsing tab and navigates to the Joe/Roz sex tape with the sound turned down.
i have to say i have never actually tried this form of masturbation lol. I can’t imagine the, uh, lack of privacy would be in joyce’s favor but then again I guess the alternative would not be either (dorothy literally having to show her how to masturbate by hand or by toy)
also i just wanna say i do think dorothy is doing joyce a big favor. it is a known fact people do NOT make good choices when they are unbelievably horny T-T
Everyone in these comments acting like Joyce didn’t knowingly follow Dorothy to masturbate. Like, the girl has *some* agency, right? Dorothy isn’t being as communicative as someone who has been actively studying consent might be, but she’s far from coercing an unwilling Joyce into doing something Joyce doesn’t want to do. She said upfront what was going to happen, and Joyce has been clearly turned on by the idea and following along. Is masturbating on the public dryers a bit sketch? Yeah. But it’s also pretty likely that Dorothy was going to go “do laundry” by herself to work off the frustration from her conversation with Walky, and decided to kill two birds with one stone.
I’m just copying my post from below, quoting the relevant parts
Ok, so this is the same character who was nearly date raped, who has tons of cult upbringing programming to deprogram from when sex is involved, who just the other day shouted at Dorothy to quit with the sex stuff, right?
This is so out of left field that I’m getting more and more uncomfortable. This is NOT like Joyce at all, so what gives? What is the missing detail that makes this all make sense?
It seems that a smug smile is slowly appearing on Joyce’s face. I wonder how Dorothy found out about Joyce’s passion for Amber’s literature, but it’s nice that she’s putting all the elements to make feel Joyce comfortable and come to have the outcome she’s hoping for. Dorothy knows her stuff, even if she ways she use are weird.
Probably work better if she leaned against is, but that would depend on if she was the right height to hit the appropriate spot with the corner of the dryer.
Masturbation is more exciting when you never know who might walk in on you. Pretend like you’re not. Extra points if you can do it in the same room with a clueless person undetected.
I don’t get how this is gross. It is someone else’s fetish and you shouldn’t kink shame. The only time to step in is if someone is being hurt/taken advantage of.
Yes, that was my concern. Just a little too Louis-CK-esque. Like taking advantage of others.
…I’m not saying it’s not a tempting fantasy! And nothing wrong with fantasies of all kinds. It’s just in the translation of dreaming to experimentation that the lack of consent gets messy.
In the tv series, “One Mississippi” there’s a scene where the main character’s boss masturbates under the desk while talking to her, then denies it. It’s pretty gross.
I won’t try for the full grouping (because it does not have to be limited to a pairing), but Batman must be in, per Shortpacked conversations. Yes, different universe, but sure as Robovac is thing, so is the high standing of Batman.
Ok, so this is the same character who was nearly date raped, who has tons of cult upbringing programming to deprogram from when sex is involved, who just the other day shouted at Dorothy to quit with the sex stuff, right?
I really don’t get the comments going, “OH SHE’S NOT BEING COERCED” “OH DOROTHY ISN’T BAD” etc.
This is so out of left field that I’m getting more and more uncomfortable. This is NOT like Joyce at all, so what gives? What is the missing detail that makes this all make sense?
Maybe she’s playing the long game, planning ahead of Dorothy — Joyce is gonna go straight to Joe at the last minute to copulate, not only foiling Dorothy’s plan, but also making it feel like HER fault for warming her up first!
It’ll be like a twist straight out of JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure! Or should I say, Joy Joe’s Bizarre Adventure?!?! 😂😍
Neither is yours. Dorothy hasn’t let up for one second since she found out Joyce was interested in Joe. Chasing her down, grabbing her hoodie, “Calm yourself,” then persisting after she yells at everyone sharing their two cents on her sex stuff “just leave me the hell alone.” I encourage you to think twice before trying any of that on an actual person IRL.
Just because something turns out OK doesn’t mean it is OK. I don’t expect to change your mind but we’re not gonna agree on this.
Having thought on it, while I stand by my assessment that Dorothy’s approach to this was inappropriate at best, Joyce is simply humoring her, maybe because she feels bad about blowing up at her in public earlier and she knows Dorothy wouldn’t intentionally hurt her
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is it a Black Adam Smasher one
or something with Kamran and Bruno Carrelli
…Stucky?
(idk I have not actually watched a live-action theatrical release in like three years)
…
SEX BOB-OMB x 4*TOWN
Does Scott top or bottom?
Comic version tops, movie version bottoms.
Absolutely agree.
Both Kims Top though.
This is the way.
Truth. Kims are definitely tops.
“Self-indulgent” to me says Stucky. Probably movie Stucky, at that.
Oh, no, it’s gotta be Batman and… Nightwing? Superman? Amber’s totally a Batman fangirl.
Nah, the filthiest fics star characters you’d never think of.
This one is Plastic Man X Clayface.
“SEX BOB-OMB x 4*TOWN”
As a fan of both Scott Pilgrim and Turning Red, I would totally read this comic and/or watch this cartoon.
The first thing I thought of was not slash fic but a collab that i need to hear immediately
prob better than the mash-up with Sex Bob-Omb vs. the Katayanagi Twins
A slash fic with 4 Town has to have some renditions of “You’re Never Not On My D*ck” or it’s not worth it.
This is Amber at her most self-indulgent, I’m betting Batman x Superman: Dom of Justice.
Spawn x Dot from Animaniacs
Spawn gets to call her Dottie in bed because she can’t kill him when he’s already dead.
I was hoping someone would make a Dottie joke. This one is particularly good.
I’d bet she has some fanfiction for the game she kills Spiders in.
nooooo, don’t remind me of Adam Smasher
god damn emotions gonna go edgerunning again now
Why do you know how to access her phone, Dotty.
Dorothy knows all!
I wonder if Joyce even has a password. I spent a lot of years not having a password until my phone was stolen. I’m just a trusting (read:lazy) guy.
especially if her family had a ‘no passwords because we should be able to look at what you’re doing at any time’ policy, which could have changed since their falling out, but I could also see her being like ‘well I’m not around my family so I don’t have to password it anyway’
“how is there aways on more neurosis with you?”
This sounds plausible.
Yeah i doubt she has one. In highschool my friends used to try get in my phone all the time bc we all thought boundary stomping and pissing each other off was hilarious (i did too tbf), so.code needed.
Side note, remember back in the day when your friends would steal your phone and mash random shit for the code to lock you out for like 5 billion years?
No, but all of my brothers who got on the smart phone train before me would regularly copy+paste entire Wikipedia articles and then text them to me, locking my phone down from anywhere between 30 minutes and 4 hours, depending on the size of the article.
Family is fucking worthless.
hahaha wow I’m glad I had one brother, and I left well before mobiles
Yea, this feels a bit off. Even I don’t access my fiancee’s phone like that!
my partner and I are thumbprinted into each other’s phones. it pretty much only comes up in the car, for “can you change the album we’re listening to?” or “who’s texting me? what are they saying?”
Yeah, I know my husband’s code but I only use it if he asks me to google something for him and his phone is closer/easier to find. Just casually going through it without his say so is a no-no and outright rude.
And I thought Becky was the one with no boundries…
My best friends know/knew how to unlock my phone in case there was an emergency, or if I can’t stop doing something then they can unlock my phone to answer a text.
The only way this can backfire is if your friends are like mine and will make an embarrassing or nonsensical Facebook update once in a blue moon.
I scrolled through all (then) 51 comments to see if I was the only one feeling a bit bothered that Dorothy had access to Joyce’s phone.
I’m not concerned that she has access for reasons above (maybe no password- she probably didn’t have one when Becky was playing with/screening calls on her phone), but I’m a little concerned about Dorothy being in possession of the phone.
See, I’m the opposite.
I’m much more willing to let someone borrow my devices for some expressed purpose than I am to let them have my passcode to unlock said devices.
That said, Dorothy being in possession of the phone *without Joyce knowing* is equally as bothersome to me as her being able to unlock it, which seems to be the case here (I’m relatively sure this was your focus, but didn’t want to put words in your mouth).
Yeah, by saying Dorothy had possession of it, I meant without Joyce knowing and also that Dorothy was already using it (as opposed to “I brought your phone, can I bring some stuff up on it” which would be odd since she could have just told Joyce to bring it, but valid enough)
also I don’t disagree with you re accessing it. I’m the only one with access to my computer at all, and I still do all my google searches and stuff I’m even mildly embarrassed about in private tabs so if someone somehow used my computer, they wouldn’t see it in the history. I meant that I don’t think Dorothy snuck into it or made Joyce share her password or anything like that, not that it’s not concerning that she decided to access it.
tldr last paragraph, I’m not concerned about HOW she got in the phone, but I am concerned that she did
Yeah, but Joyce needs the phone for when they get down to serious discussion of “why we’re here” and she says, “see! We’ve been texting for weeks, and he’s really nice when you get to know him.”
Same here. That’s a HUGE boundary for a lot of people.
evidently not for joyce, or she would have shown literally any negative reaction in comic. like, yeah in real life that might be an issue but this is a story being told and we are not being given any indication that its a problem and not just, a story contrivance to make a joke
This entire storyline has been bending Joyce backwards to make it happen. Unless you think a time skip of a few hours was really enough to go from “Leave me the hell alone!” explicitly concerning sex talk to “Yeah, you can teach me to masturbate as you once again negate my agency.”
Honestly, been so burnt out by this all that even when I found a comment saying Dorothy went through the phone, it still didn’t click until now
This arc is exhausting
Joyce acting weird
People defending Dorothy’s boundary stomping when it hasn’t even been, what, 24 hours? since Joyce shouted at everybody to screw off with the sex talk
Willis best have a point with this arc. I joked about a Slipshine because of how shocked I was, but if this actually is all just to lead to a contrived Dorothy x Joyce Slipshine, I’ll be kind of disgusted
Because this is a comic strip, and if she didn’t, Willis wouldn’t be able to pull off this gag.
Next: Dorothy breaks the sound barrier!
Well, the suspense is lasting. Damn you Willis, you Diabolical Demon Lord!!! 😂
*plays “Jadeite’s Theme” from Sailor Moon CD on hacked muzak*
Damn it, this part is in a very slow pace. The suspense is killing me…
Just think of it as Dorothy teaching us all the importance of proper foreplay!
Please tell me you can at least look these wash rooms.
it is a college dorm. if you let public areas be locked from the inside you’re GUARANTEEING people will fuck in there
As long as they’re responsible.
Curtains on the showers was enough in my college dorm. Was an awkward thing to walk past or shower next to, but not as bad as the puking.
I think I’d rather hear people hooking up in the showers regularly than have my roommate fucking in my room when I’m around
It really would be better.
Source: My roommate took his box spring and mattress off the frame so ‘it won’t squeak’ and literally fucked his girlfriend while I was sleeping in the same room.
It was worse when he was fucking her while I wasn’t around… He would lock the door to the bedroom and fall asleep before he could unlock it, which lead to me eventually just sleeping on the goddamned couch in the suite’s common room every night.
Can Confirm.
And everyone will have to wait until they’re done and it’ll ruin everyone’s day.
Some things I don’t miss at all about college.
I’m not convinced the dorm laundromat even has a door.
and she definitely doesn’t know where the hottest parts are (in the text/on the scrollbar).
Oh no, of course not, Joyce. Never ever ever. 😉
Why does Joyce look sad?
Also, was Dorothy hiding the phone inside that book?
I don’t think Joyce is frowning. I believe she inviting her lower lip; likely to avoid admitting it feels nice and hide her realizations.
I think Dorothy simply had Joyce’s phone on her left where we couldn’t see.
Possibly. But we know she is wearing shorts that seem to at least have back pockets. Maybe she was carrying it in there.
What has it got in its nasty little pocketses?
I don’t think that’s sad. It’s just a mix of emotions. Some horny, some denying the horny. I don’t think her brows are meant to be “sad”.
She’s not sad, she’s biting her lower lip and blushing because the the dryer’s vibration.
I wonder if Amber has a patreon or some sort of subscriber based platform for her fan fics that Joyce is likely a part of.
Joyce is subscribed at “Cragged Shame Pits of the Lustwolves” tier. It’s an upgrade over “Pre-Marital Hanky Panky” Tier, you get to read each smutfic a day early.
Batman and the Hulk?
The fan term for that is Bruce^2.
… of course it is.
The spruce Bruce and the puce Bruce?
Who’s the caboose?
Nightwing.
I feel like if Nightwing tried to get up in those cheeks, he’d get burst like a grape. The Insatiable Hunk done got that dumpy. Absolutely cheeked freak. Crush hazard, for sure.
Dick, despite his name, is known throughout the multiverse for his bubble butt.
Dick’s butt holds the Omniverse together.
…I think that’s actually canon now.
Lex Luthor and Harwey Weinstein – wait … finctional character. Let me try again:
Spawn and Darkwin Duck
lex deserves better than Harvey anyway
Snagglepuss and El Kabong?
“Exit, stage right.”
“not so fast you varmint! KABOOOOOONG!
So Joyce does have at least an idea of what the purpose is. If/when this doesn’t work I wonder what Dorothy will do next.
In fact, let’s bet on how she teaches Joyce to orgasm or whether Joyce abandons all of this.
I bet 250 internet dollars on this not getting Joyce all the way there, and Dorothy has to teach her how to use a dildo/vibrator.
I’m starting to lean towards the idea that Joyce already know how to and does regularly and is just humorist Dorothy
How does “humoring” become “humorist” what the hell
Damn you Otto Korrekt!
I don’t know, she clearly knows more than she admits too. However I don’t think she has done it yet because of her upbringing and/or because she has complicated feelings on anything sexual.
Dorothy can’t provide Joyce a vibrator, because she would ultimately lose the active bet she has going with Joyce about Joyce’s capacity to present her a receipt, indicating purchase of a marital aid. I can’t remember the other boundary conditions of the wager, but Dorothy would be own-goaling herself socially, and I do not think she’s in the mood for that, lmao.
Counterpoint: own-goaling yourself is recently one of the most Presidential things possible.
The Slipshine practically writes itself. The dryer is enough to get Joyce hot and bothered but not get her off. Dorothy takes her somewhere more private to finish the lesson. Dorothy demonstrates, and Joyce starts leaning on for a closer look, and closer, and…
*ahem* Y’know, I think there’s a fine line between this wager and a fanfiction contest.
For one Joyce definitely knows more than she fronts. She is the whiteboard ding dong bandit, and a fan of Amber’s “literature”.
Second, my bet is she doesn’t finish. I think the more public nature of this space will have her come up a bit short. Unless people getting off in the laundry room is a regular thing and they put like a sock on the door or something.
Oh, I definitely agree she knows more than she is willing to admit. As for the second thing, that is entirely possible and if this doesn’t get her there I wonder what Dorothy will do next.
If this just ends up leaving her feeling hot and bothered, I could almost see it going full-on Slipshine with demanding that – since it’s Dotty’s fault she’s feeling all wound up like this – Dotty should do the right thing and darned-well finish her off! xD
I am honestly assuming that Dorothys just…warming Joyce up. No pun intended.
That’s about where I’ve been with this, too.
Same here. Potential energy is brewing, and thus far we have yet to see the pink horny radiation indicating something major. 😗
I honestly don’t think there’s much more that is possible utilizing just the dryer and some *~Literature~*.
But what book is Dorothy reading? The infamous “book with a blue cover”?
That’s my question too actually. We know Joyce is reading smut, does Dorothy have some old fashioned hardcover smut of her own or is that a textbook? Which is less awkward getting off with your bestie or studying while your bestie gets off in the same room at your encouragement?
Social Studies turns Dorothy on.
I was gonna suggest this too – studying IS Dotty’s way of getting off. Nothing raunchier to her than a good textbook! ;D
Have you seen some mid-70s sex ed? Porn for the thinking person which definitely includes Dotty.
Nope, by the time I was old enough to appreciate any porn, it was the 90s. xD
In the Patreon comments someone suggested Doonesbury, and I stand by that.
Also this means her type in dudes is Duke, which is extremely distressing.
Wouldn’t be surprised if she was just studying, two birds with one stone so to speak
Literature.
Maybe it’s a romance novel.
It’s a binder catalog.
Nobody actually sits on dryers to get off, do they? Because that’s BARELY a vibration.
i think this is more of like, an easy entry path for joyce. don’t wanna go “all in” right away so to speak
To be honest, I kind of expect Dorothy’s reasoning is this is like, the most entry level of stimulation, that whether or not she finished, her starting would make her more amicable to masturbation.
If there was a horse to ride, they’d do that instead.
exactly!!
I think this comment section is just so collectively comfortable with pounding mound, they’re forgetting that the major problem Joyce has to overcome is emotional, not intellectual. She’s not literally too dumb to figure out how her parts work, she’s traumatized by her upbringing. I’m sure Dorothy could give her some tips and tricks and things to try, but the mechanics are probably not the part of the problem that Dorothy is focused on overcoming, here.
Though I don’t have Patreon, so who knows, we might find out tomorrow that this scenario is going to go as insane as everybody expected.
Yeah, this is more about getting Joyce in a relaxed and receptive mood to be ready to go further in the presence of / with others.
Unless it turns out that Joyce is hilariously sensitive down there and this really hits the spot for her, or gets her massively wound-up and then she demands that Dotty do the right thing and finish her off like a good girl…either of those scenarios could prove to be a funny way for this to end! xD
i wonder if people choose deliberately shitty Dryers for this activity.
I’d think you’d want to, ones where the balance is off or the bearings are going.
Like this one?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gG4S_v2pTQI/T0hP5t0pr2I/AAAAAAAAGFA/nUSK_PoZ-rg/s1600/washing_machine_brick_face.gif
Cheap aquarium air pumps are also viable. They are about the size of a pear so they are easy to conceal and they shake like a caffeinated guinea pig.
Before you ask: I’ve dated some very strange and creative women.
feels like a very outdated 1950s housewife kinda thing/something before proper vibrators were invented? I’m sure ppl have tried alternative stuff before esp given a limited budget or restrictive family
Don’t vibrators date back to the 1800’s or something absurd like that?
Yes, back to the introduction of AC electricity. All women owe a huge debt to Nicolai Tesla for inventing AC.
I think mostly the restrictive family thing. Or even younger teens not ready to talk to anyone about it yet.
Modern machines won’t even -let- you spin an unbalanced load.
dorothy thought joyce was into marvel but she’s actually a dc girl
Nahh, DC/Marvel crossover. ;D
Yep, Willis gives her author credits for 3 bat/Superman slashfics. And my spell checker doesn’t recognize ?
slashficsGive me a break!The entire scooby gang.
Plus Batman.
Hot and debatably canon. The scooby gang have met batman multiple times.
They’ve also met the Harlem Globetrotters, and while the Globetrotters can’t compete with Batman in the number of gadgets, they do outnumber him and have almost as large a number of tricks, just more basketball related than crime related, so they would be a worthy rival for the Scooby gang’s attention/affection.
They certainly know a lot about ball play.
I’m just saying, if someone asked me “do you want to witness the Harlem Globetrotters do an orgy,” there is a 0.00% chance I would say no. You gotta think that would be pretty fucking spectacular!
Scoobynatural orgy.
I had an idea for a Scooby Doo Smut comic where they solve a mystery and they end up splitting up and all having sexual encounters with the “ghosts” and at the end it’s revealed that it’s just a group of fans who staged the mystery cuz they wanted to get with the scooby doo gang. 😛 But that seems hard to draw.
Welp, now I got a fanfic to write.
😂🤪😏
So this is self-indulgent for Amber, but Joyce isn’t that into it. And it’s slash. Amber definitely goes for angst and brooding goths. Bucky, Batman, tortured dudes who think they’re not worthy of love. Based on the sliding timescale, RPatz Batman/Jim Gordon.
Joyce wants more noble heroes and doesn’t have daddy issues, so she doesn’t love it, but she’s a Twilight fangirl and it’s RPatz, so she’s still into it.
Batman/superman is best of both worlds. One of the few m/m pairings Ive indulged in because wholesome noble beefcake with brooding angst boy is a fun dynamic
Plus Joyce is an avid enough reader to know the real top ten self indulgent fics so imma guess shes into it
We’ve seen Joyce avidly perusing some fine romantic Literature! featuring Clark’s “hot sirloin” and Bruce getting it “well done”, so yeah, this is on the money.
Oh, my mistake, it’s BRUCE’s sirloin.
Amber’s most self-indulgent fanfics are going to be Dinobot/Cheetor or something like that. I do not know if Joyce is into robots, but Amber certainly is.
“Don’t play dumb, Joyce. You know.”
So why are you even bothering with this whole creepy lesson???
this so much
but I’d posit it’s because she wants to be the one to help joyce, for self-image and ego reasons, and also she genuinely wants to help joyce but is addled with stress and therefor she rushed into this and hasn’t done any real planning or consideration about it
You know, that’s a Thing with dottie I’ve noticed.
She only latches onto people who are “worse” then her. That she can “fix.”
Danny, Walky, Joyce, Amber for a while until the whole stabbing thing.
“Knowing” is not the same as “accepting and being willing to act upon”
She’s helping Joyce to accept that she has sexual urges and can experience sexual pleasure and is even allowed to indulge in these things
Yeah. It was mere months ago that Joyce was insisting to Ruth that she is asexual, the first moment that she such a thing existed.
Joyce made huge progress in letting go of her hang-ups in a general sense, but Dorothy is probably right that she could use some help acknowledging to herself that these things are no just ok in theory but also in practice.
Also, “you know” here doesn’t necessarily mean Joyce has previous knowledge on how to find a vibrating device for pleasure without going to a sex shop.
100% I’m pretty damn sure she means “you know, bc you have functioning nerve endings and you are feeling, right now, as we speak, because you are doing it now.”
michael-scott-thank-you dot gif
I mean…I wondered the same thing. If Joyce is ready to start learning about her sexuality, more power to her. But why do this half-assed, convoluted, SUPER PUBLIC thing with the dryer when sex shops/the internet exist? Why not pick out a vibrator, hand her the phone with Amber’s fanfiction queued up, and put a sock on the door? I mean I feel like for someone who is working through so much shame, doing this in a public place where someone could walk in (I mean, we saw how it went with Carla, and this is when everyone still had pants on) seems like a recipe for disaster. There’s something to be said for directness, sure, but there’s also something to be said for privacy. I honestly think Roz, Jennifer, or even Sarah would be a better choice, since they wouldn’t mince words but they wouldn’t complicate the shit out of things either.
I suspect the theory is that Joyce isn’t ready to do something as direct as use a vibrator on herself. This is a way of building up to it without jumping right to that all at once.
And without being as invasive as demonstrating it or worse.
It cracks me up how Joyce went full blown ape shit when Dorothy helped her pick up her medication, but when Dorothy asks “Do you want to try masturbating in the laundry room,” she basically said “Sure let me grab me things.”
Nature, uh, finds a way.
people will think im a HUSSY if they find out I’m on the pill!
No one will care if I get my rocks off with my gal pal in a laundry room though! 😀
Insert Elaborate Marriage fantasy to cope with the pull situation, with said gal pal
They’re just charging their crystals together, it’s fine and perfectly normal.
Because she’s exhausted. She’s tried to defend her boundaries but Dorothy keeps walking over them so now she’s not even sure where those are at this point. I don’t think Dorothy did this on purpose, but she pretty much just wore her down.
my question is why are they doing this in the public laundry room. if i had to do my laundry and i walked into my dorms’ laundry room to this extremely homoerotic scene id place a phone call directly to the president. of the united states.
Some people get off on doing it in public. Don’t as me how I know.
Hey, I’m impressed they’ve got the phone number of the president of the United States handy. I shall assume it was given to them specifically for reporting any homoerotic scenes they might run into.
i can understand sneaking around but other than a semi private area and ppl knowing a head of time, being an exhibitionist probably would be frowned upon because strangers can’t consent, feels like you’d def get fined if not arrested for ‘public indecency’
That’s what exhibitionist clubs are for lol
In the vein of Joyce:
I have absolutely never never never EVER gotten myself off in public. Multiple times. Including in a shopping centre, on a train (one that did not have toilets on board) and during class. EVERRRRRRRR.
Today I learned Green Eggs and Ham can be used as a checklist.
“You don’t say, Jack! That reminds me of this time me and a fella, Ernesto, who everyone called Sandwiches at the time—“
I mean, people sit on the machines for non sexual reasons. I think it’s comfortable. If i walked in I’d just assume their stuff was in those specific machines and they didn’t wanna leave it unattended. It’s a pretty tame scene out of context
As for Joyce being in panties I’d assume she was just washing her last half good pair of pants
It’s the loud moaning they’ve got to account for, thankfully I’m sure there’s some socks around.
It’s a lot easier and less suspicious than trying to get the dryer up to Joyce’s room.
What are you thinking?
One question/issue I have:
From what we’ve seen, Amber’s slashfics seem to be of the male on male variety. (Batman and Superman, etc.) We know Joyce has read them, but does she have an actual sexual interest in the content? Or does Amber also write non-gay slashfics?
Joyce initially discovered Amber’s “literature” from Batman vs Superman. We also saw her blushing like crazy at the idea that Ethan could watch “dude porn” (i.e. gay porn) and that she should not have that knowledge.
True, she was ‘flustered’ when Ethan mentioned what was referred to as ‘dude smut’. But it is possible that her interest was more in the aspect of “attractive near naked men” (from an appearance perspective) rather than the whole gay sex thing.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/forthright/
The last panel here strongly indicates that Joyce does in fact have an interest in Amber’s fics, as does the previous time we’ve SEEN her reading them and becoming quite intrigued
Though Amber wouldn’t NEED to write m/w pairings for Joyce to have sexual interest in them? Joyce definitely likes dudes. Gay pairings have twice the dudes. It’s pretty straightforward
Like, why do you think Amber is writing so much gay dude fics?
A LOT of women (both straight and lesbian) prefer m/m pairings partly because it’s often more equitable in terms of power dynamics and pleasure dynamics. As I awkwardly found out after coming across my (also lesbian) mother’s porn collection. Im guessing it’s also because more hot dudes.
Plus Joyce has clearly read many of amber’s fics, so I’m assuming it pleases her
Also the same reason why so many men prefer lesbian porn, twice as many hot chicks. Also instructive, they think that lesbian porn shows what women like. Which if it’s actually made for women, it does, but most lesbian porn was made for dudes, because twice as many women and no risk of pregnancy for the actresses.
100% why I don’t like lesbian porn. It ain’t sexy yelling at my phone. I’ll take my erotic fanfiction and slipshine comics over that any day.
I don’t think you can make that type of *~Literature~* font change unless you’re genuinely horny for dudes being naked with dudes.
Which is fairly normal, innit?
To answer that: lots of straight guys love reading f/f fiction – I know I do – more than m/f. It’s about what fantasies turn you on, not necessarily ones you could ever be a participant in if they happened to be real. 🙂
I suppose it would be naive of me to suppose this will be the first work to both feature and inspire slashfic.
finally have to ask. how normal is it for girls to sit on the washer/dryer in a communal laundry room? How far it is from Joe with smut magazine? because ich bin unkomfortable right now.
I’m a man but I have the required bits and was mostly friends with girls in my teens and early 20s (largely due to trans), and I can say that even those I often talk about stuff like sex toys with have never mentioned doing this.
None of this seems normal.
I’ve tried it in the basement of my own home before, and honestly, it didn’t do much for me. Maybe the thrill of being in a public place adds to it, idk.
I sat on them sometimes. Not to get off, just because there wasn’t a ton of room in the communal washing rooms for sitting. So I’d go down with my textbooks and sit on the machine while I studied.
It’s not really the most exciting thing in the world, but given where I can get with just my imagination, I feel like that plus a fanfic would have helped.
feels like it’d be easier to find other massaging devices, like an electric toothbrush (though that might be something joyce might not want to associate with every time she brushes her teeth normally, but i imagine even if you did, you’d rather be alone)
There are certainly better ways to get the result, most likely including her own fingers, but those require Joyce to actively masturbate, which she’s not going to do on her own yet. Or for Dorothy to get even more inappropriate in pushing her towards.
I think it’s a little weird to be like “you know how this works” about this particular thing to Joyce, seeing as lots of people in the comments (me included) do not.
It reads to me more like, “you’re on this horse now Joyce. I know you can feel what going on down south.”
Sure if you’re not sitting on the dryer it’s a mystery to some. But to the person sitting on the dryer and pumped full of teenage hormones, and surrounded by stuff that turns you on every day… well, it’s more self evident. (if it does anything at all).
That read makes more sense. I took it as “you know how this (specifically) works and what to do from here”
To answer the alt-text: Batman x Nightwing would be my guess.
I ship nightwing with a lotta people, but with Bruce it seems weird.
(Honestly I’ve kinda got the same issue with Babs. Like I get it but it just feels like they should be more familial.)
Yeah, unlike some mentor/mentee relationships, Dick x Bruce seems like the power dynamic would be genuinely messed up. Same with Bruce/Babs.
Oh I meant more Dick/Babs but yeah Bruce/Babs feels weird to me too.
Canon in Batman Beyond.
I think the only conceptual bat x robin i can think of that’s worse is Damien
His literal, legal, possibly biological idr baby child
Unless Talia is a liar, Bruce is his actual biodad.
… Actually, shit. She totally is a liar, and all kinds of other typically villainous things … but I don’t think she was lying about that.
Talia’s a lot of things worse than a liar. Didn’t Bruce have basically no say in Damien’s conception?
From what I remember, and it ain’t even remotely recently, he was drugged and barely coherent, so I don’t think he was capable of doing so.
Which just makes it worse, really.
Nooooo
Noooooooo
No batfamcest
ESPECIALLY not batman x any robin
(Dicky and bab is fine depending on the context. But in those contexts batman must under no circumstances try to also fuck babs. I hate that this specific scenario has happened.)
Dick/babs is in the “Brady Bunch” category where it *feels* wrong, somehow, but there’s not enough there to make it *actually* wrong.
Bruce/babs should only end in Gordon breaking Bruce’s jaw.
Gordon doesn’t own Babs, don’t reinforce shitty stereotypes.
You know what would be fucking hilarious, is if:
1.) this *~Literature!~* is about Batman, and
2.) Joyce’s imagined perception of Batman recently changed, and
3.) the Bruce Wayne in her head now looks an awful lot like Joseph Rosenthal
SIDENOTE: Holy shit, does Joyce have a masc type (beefcake Jewish dudes with plush rumps)
Let Joe Rosenthal play Batman.
Because he can take it, if you know what I mean.
well, maybe amber has something like what joyce does with julia grayson but i imagine she’d stick more to fictional characters
Oh I’m sure, Amber is an old hand at fanfic, she knows how to cloak an OC.
I’m strictly talking about Joyce’s mental perception of the Batman that Amber is writing about.
This has to be one of the,,,I’m not even sure how to describe it, WTF maybe…storylines in DOA.
First Dorothy tells Joyce shes going to learn to masturbate, then takes her to a semi-public place, tells her to remove her pants, tells her to sit on the dryer, not only has access to her phone but also sets up a porn page for Joyce to read while Joyce pleasures herself on a dryer in an area that anyone in the dorm can use and probably gets a lot of use
As well as joining in herself…this is a weird storyline
I know some people get off on public masturbation but was/is this really a thing, sitting on dryers, in dorms?
Just seems a little unhygienic if nothing else
I, too, was deeply upset to see the fountains of cum in today’s strip.
David Willis, I know you have a disturbing fascination with ejaculate, but really, this was beyond tasteless. It was everywhere! Some even got on the mayor!!
Honestly, I feel bad for the people who will have to rewash their clothes because Joyce just Noah’ed her Ark and forgot her milk carton shoes.
OK, I ‘m now imagining that just out of the frame is a mayor in full red robes and municipal chain, patiently waiting his turn to do his laundry.
I mean probably it’s not like college students have ever cared
My running theory this whole time is just, that no *actual masturbating* is going to be taking place inside the laundry room, Dorothy is simply making sure that the ol’ downstairs is warmed-up, so to speak. If I’m proven wrong, I’m proven wrong, but maybe the reason the plan seems so stupid, is that everyone is actively expecting the stupidest possible plan? Everyone’s been justifiably grumpy with Dorothy lately, I think they’re primed for her to be making overly-dumb decisions.
Warmed up for what though, presumably not Joe
She’ll probably suggest getting Joyce a toy after this.
God, imagine Joyce’s brain melting if Dorothy points out there’s probably Dexter and Monkey Master-themed sex toys online.
A literal magician is Dottie, pulling a Rabbit out of her handbag.
Warmed up, so that Joyce can actually tell whether or not she actually likes whichever things Dorothy suggests that she try to start learning to self-stimulate. If Dorothy just gives Joyce a bunch of masturbation techniques on a powerpoint and says to try them, it’s not going to actually teach Joyce anything because she’s not going to actually be horny.
I understand the distinction you’re making compared to direct touching and eventually coming, but I would call stimulating one’s genitals sexually ‘actual masturbation’
Nobody is actually physically touching their bits, or pressing them against a corner of a washer or drier, just innocently sitting in underwear on the nice, warm, slightly vibrating dryers.
Yeah, people seem thoroughly convinced that the dryer is the endgame, that Joyce is meant to stick her hand down her pants in full view, and that she’s intended to fully get off here and now. You can mix and match those any way you want, but I don’t think any of them are true.
Might also be the experience versus the intensity.
https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2050
Tho even if she’s not into girls herself, i’m surprised she didn’t joygasm when becky said that her and dina were practically engaged lol
Tangent to obligatory QC fic content:
“They kissed. And it was very sexy.”
Yelling Bird: AND THEN THEY ALL–
“i’m surprised she didn’t joygasm when becky said that her and dina were practically engaged lol”
I mean, she kind of did. Dogs heard it.
This reminds me of the joke about why ladies really love The Flash.
See, people like to joke about him being the “fastest man in bed”, but if my man could vibrate his atoms so fast they can go through walls or whatever, I’d be asking some very pointed questions about how much fine control he has and what speed settings he comes with.
Speedsters
This strip means Dorothy has read Amber’s slash fics at some point.
This entire comic universe is just a storage depository for all of Amber’s slashiest fics. DoA doesn’t exist, it’s not real. Only the slashfic is real.
I bet she’s perused it at least once out of curiosity, though we know so little about what Dorothy gets off to that it’s hard to know what ticks her boxes.
Like, we know a bit about her taste in men, but beyond that, it’s anyone’s guess.
honestly amazigirl stuff aside i’m surprised she’d even want any fanfics known by any irl ppl let alone college dorm mates
Wish I knew what the slashie is, but considering Amber, I’ll speculate the opposite: Gwenpool and Scarlet Witch.
Blush levels: Let’s get it started in here
Ok but like…I could get into that.
Not superhero theme but, Jon Snow fanfics.
Because, the same as Joyce, he knows nothing…
hmmm, possible heroes in the slashfic?
Superman/Batman? or is that very banal for Amber?
I know
Bruce Wayne/Batman 😛
Noooo! You leave Terry out of this!
Leave Terry out in general.
I wanna say Wolverine/Deadpool…
but I feel like if it’s Amber and it’s self indulgence it’s probably more like. Bruce Wayne/Tony Stark cross over
dorothy, no
this is not how the warrior of darkness solves problems
you’re supposed to emphatically punch your hand and nod, then off screen explain everything
One brings shadow, one brings the vibe
Two steel cases on tumble dry
Idk exactly why, but I’m actually much less creeped by the Dorothy lesson at this point. It seems more of a chill way to just get a little excited and know that it’s normal.
It’s The Master (Doctor Who) x Davos (Iron First)
I really don’t understand what everyone is so taken aback with. Joyce knows what masturbation is, and she’s clearly incredibly horny. She has a mental barrier as a result of her upbringing that won’t allow for her to touch herself, it’s a difficult hurdle for her to overcome. Dorothy knows this, and wants to help Joyce by teaching her to dip her toes in the freezing water before she makes a “mistake” with Joe. None of this is creepy, it’s just Dorothy trying to help, and it’s PAINFULLY clear that Joyce is okay with this. Whether or not you agree with *why* Dorothy is trying to help is a different matter.
Also, has no one here seen a movie, or watched a show, or been exposed to any kind of media? Women sitting on a dryer to get off is a common and very old trope. It’s even been referenced before on this website with Sarah getting off on a dryer on an old banner. Whether or not it actually works is again, a different matter. But it’s so obvious that’s what the whole deal with the dryer is about.
I think pretty much everyone has been questioning whether it works an dwhether it’s a good idea (because public), not whether it’s a common trope
But that’s the thing, it doesn’t really matter if it works or not in real life, it’s a trope, so if it’s happening in piece of media, then it works. Unless the trope is being subverted.
I keep trying to give Dorothy the benefit of the doubt in this arc, but damn she makes it hard. it’s really not helpful to say (or demand rather) you’re going to teach someone an aspect of sex ed and then when it gets to gritty part take a step back and say “well, you know”
No Dorothy, she likely doesn’t know, she likely has just a vague idea of how female self-pleasure works. Why would you volunteer yourself to teach her this and then act like a bad health care class teacher who says “we’re not going to talk about PiV sex because you kids watch too much cable and everyone knows about it”?
Agreed.
If she does know then why are they doing this and if she doesn’t know then why aren’t you explaining what’s happening
She does know, she’s being “difficult”. Dorothy is having her do this because she knows Joyce is just horny for Joe, but she wouldn’t touch herself to manage those feelings unless someone helped her overcome her cult brainwashing.
There again with someone so convinced Joyce isn’t emotionally invested in Joe. If she was just horny him being a “libido with a face” would be perfect for her. But she’s not just sexually attracted to Joe, and she’s not okay with him not having any emotional depth.
I see where you could have gotten that interpretation from what I said. I didn’t mean she’s not invested in him emotionally. But also to be fair she was attracted to him physically before his more recent development. I’m sure she’s emotionally invested in him, but Dorothy doesn’t it see it that way, she thinks Joyce is just horny and making a mistake.
Four feet apart because they’re not gay. 😉
“No Homo!” but obviously Homo.
Literally the urinal rule.
this is way more chill than I envisioned XD
I don’t know enough about the various property universes to guess about the slashfic.
I want to know what book Dorothy is reading. Is “57 Varieties” one of a series?
In the old ‘Joyce & Sarah on the driers’ art Sarah was reading “57 Varieties of Ketchup”.
A masterpiece of lesbian smut (written by a man).
Batman V Superman 2: Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
Wow, it’s soooo cute how Dorothy has Joyce’s phone without her knowing, has unfettered access to it, and picks picks porn for her in this scenario where Dorothy has chosen and is in control of all of the parameters. So. CUTE.
Joyce should be picking Safe Words by now.
Yeah, we’re just steamrollin’ boundaries right and left here
I know there’s a degree of realism in this comic, but I also think certain scenarios are exaggerated for comic effect.
Exactly, people are being way too uptight
Yup. This exactly.
It’s never established that Joyce didn’t know about Dorothy having her phone. She’s unfazed by it because Joyce probably told her she could have access to it
A lot of things Joyce isn’t reacting negatively to, expresses no problems with, and is completely unfazed by, are being read as offenses lately. People honestly seem to be ignoring that and it’s so annoying. Joyce is a helpless victim with no free will, apparently, despite that never being a trait of hers. She’s consistently spoken up when she becomes uncomfortable, but that’s being thrown out the window because other people wouldn’t react the same way as her.
It’s worth remembering that the last time Joyce expressed significant discomfort with Dorothy pushing her to do something Dorothy pretty much made her do it anyway
Yes she needed to get the eye exam done but it should have been on her own timetable rather then Dorothy making the appointment seconds after hearing it might be an issue
I also LOVE how people are ignoring all of Joyce’s history in this comic and saying we’re all being uptight when Joyce, who was
-Raised in a sex negative cult
-Was nearly date raped
-Just the other day told everybody to screw off with the sex crap
-Who AT THE START OF THIS was taken aback
Is all suddenly gun ho with no explanation at all
It’s as if we may need context soon or something! But hey, because OTHERS call those who are uncomfortable with this paranoid even though they know people who have experienced Sexual Assault or even went through it themselves are having red alarms going off and wondering wtaf is going on!
Willis, please, if we’re not getting the explanation VERY soon, lock the comments
Not “just the other day” — earlier this storyline. Mere hours ago.
No matter how well this is miraculously going to go because Willis wants it to, that will never not be fucked up to me.
Does Joyce seem “gung ho” to you? To me, she looks like she’s steadily warming up to the idea but is also still nervous. I think it helps that she trusts Dorothy enough to have said “okay” in the first place, as reluctant as she looked at the time.
I fully understand that real people have had some very serious things happen to them and that Joyce’s character arc includes a lot of those things, so it feels a lot more real to those who’ve experienced it. But I don’t think that’s the direction this scene is headed, written, or meant to be read, and I just think it would be nice if we could all collectively stop telling each other to shut the fuck up, and especially calling for the author, the one person who knows where this scene is going, to literally silence everyone until it’s over. If you don’t like the vibe the comments section has right now and want to morally condemn people who aren’t jumping to the worst possible conclusion or have, through their own lived experiences, expressed a lack of discomfort with this scene, that’s your prerogative, but it’s not okay to make that everyone else’s problem and call for total silence until you, personally, are comfortable again. As rude as this may sound, and 8 assure you it comes from a place of understanding and care, it may simply be better for those most affected to detach from the conversation until they feel it can be rejoined without that discomfort.
This plan backfires on Dorothy when Joyce, in need of a more stimulating fantasy to get off, opens a private browsing tab and navigates to the Joe/Roz sex tape with the sound turned down.
Roz puts it in Joyce’s phone when she comes back into the laundry room and see’s them on her dryers.
why did you put a comma in “sees” ?
Could be phone posting. Auto”correct” love’s to put apostrophe’s we’re they don’t belong.
Kikkoman/Johnny Mnemonic.
I WANT!! ROOM!!! SERVICE!!!!
i have to say i have never actually tried this form of masturbation lol. I can’t imagine the, uh, lack of privacy would be in joyce’s favor but then again I guess the alternative would not be either (dorothy literally having to show her how to masturbate by hand or by toy)
also i just wanna say i do think dorothy is doing joyce a big favor. it is a known fact people do NOT make good choices when they are unbelievably horny T-T
And specifically relevant to Joyce: Dorothy knows full well she wasn’t making good choices about Jacob when she was horny for him.
Though otoh, masturbating is generally a short term fix and doesn’t usually drop your overall horniness for a specific person.
Everyone in these comments acting like Joyce didn’t knowingly follow Dorothy to masturbate. Like, the girl has *some* agency, right? Dorothy isn’t being as communicative as someone who has been actively studying consent might be, but she’s far from coercing an unwilling Joyce into doing something Joyce doesn’t want to do. She said upfront what was going to happen, and Joyce has been clearly turned on by the idea and following along. Is masturbating on the public dryers a bit sketch? Yeah. But it’s also pretty likely that Dorothy was going to go “do laundry” by herself to work off the frustration from her conversation with Walky, and decided to kill two birds with one stone.
I’m just copying my post from below, quoting the relevant parts
Ok, so this is the same character who was nearly date raped, who has tons of cult upbringing programming to deprogram from when sex is involved, who just the other day shouted at Dorothy to quit with the sex stuff, right?
This is so out of left field that I’m getting more and more uncomfortable. This is NOT like Joyce at all, so what gives? What is the missing detail that makes this all make sense?
Not just the other day, its still the same day
That interaction happened probably just a few hours before this
It seems that a smug smile is slowly appearing on Joyce’s face. I wonder how Dorothy found out about Joyce’s passion for Amber’s literature, but it’s nice that she’s putting all the elements to make feel Joyce comfortable and come to have the outcome she’s hoping for. Dorothy knows her stuff, even if she ways she use are weird.
I’m still wondering how this washing machine thing is working for people. For me, i need my vibration waaay more direct. It’d barely tickle me.
Same. I can’t imagine this working.
It’s a trope.
Probably work better if she leaned against is, but that would depend on if she was the right height to hit the appropriate spot with the corner of the dryer.
it, not is. why do I not spot errors until after I have posted?
It’s an old model. An 80’s, at least.
OK, today is Day 1 of taking ADD medicine for the first time. Wish me luck! Fingers crossed!
What a coincidence! I just started vaping cannabis for my ADHD as well!
Hope these work long term for both of us! 😊🤞
I support this behavior!
Thank you!
Good luck, NG!
It’s just bupropion and Prozac, but already I feel a little more hopeful. 🙂
Awe thanks! 😊
Huh, interesting, to my knowledge those are usually used to treat depression. If I may ask, were they prescribed off-label for your ADD? 🙃
Yup. Off label.
Hope your doctor knows their stuff and more importantly cares about you!
Worse comes to worse, take a drive on a sunny day to a mustard field, and just lay in the middle of it for an hour or so. Rejuvenation fail-safe! 😊
Yes, yes, yes! You KNOW me!
Like getting snuggled by a big, warm, tingly, sunny yellow blanket!
☺😊 ~Aaah!!!~ Just thinking about it is already helping me get those warm feelings back!
Good luck!
Much appreciated!
Masturbation is more exciting when you never know who might walk in on you. Pretend like you’re not. Extra points if you can do it in the same room with a clueless person undetected.
Gross!
I don’t get how this is gross. It is someone else’s fetish and you shouldn’t kink shame. The only time to step in is if someone is being hurt/taken advantage of.
Like, say, the clueless person who gave no consent to be involved in the fantasy and if they ever found out may feel horrified?
Yes, that was my concern. Just a little too Louis-CK-esque. Like taking advantage of others.
…I’m not saying it’s not a tempting fantasy! And nothing wrong with fantasies of all kinds. It’s just in the translation of dreaming to experimentation that the lack of consent gets messy.
In the tv series, “One Mississippi” there’s a scene where the main character’s boss masturbates under the desk while talking to her, then denies it. It’s pretty gross.
I won’t try for the full grouping (because it does not have to be limited to a pairing), but Batman must be in, per Shortpacked conversations. Yes, different universe, but sure as Robovac is thing, so is the high standing of Batman.
Ok, so this is the same character who was nearly date raped, who has tons of cult upbringing programming to deprogram from when sex is involved, who just the other day shouted at Dorothy to quit with the sex stuff, right?
I really don’t get the comments going, “OH SHE’S NOT BEING COERCED” “OH DOROTHY ISN’T BAD” etc.
This is so out of left field that I’m getting more and more uncomfortable. This is NOT like Joyce at all, so what gives? What is the missing detail that makes this all make sense?
Maybe she’s playing the long game, planning ahead of Dorothy — Joyce is gonna go straight to Joe at the last minute to copulate, not only foiling Dorothy’s plan, but also making it feel like HER fault for warming her up first!
It’ll be like a twist straight out of JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure! Or should I say, Joy Joe’s Bizarre Adventure?!?! 😂😍
And yes, that’s objectively the best name for this ship.
This storyline is not endearing me to Dorothy. At least Joe can take ‘no’ for an answer.
Oh, and the missing detail is that Dorothy bullied her way past Joyce’s reluctance. That’s how it makes sense.
To take “no” for an answer, I feel like “no” has to be given as an answer first.
Joyce isn’t being coerced. Dorothy isn’t bad. Your read on the situation isn’t the only valid one.
Neither is yours. Dorothy hasn’t let up for one second since she found out Joyce was interested in Joe. Chasing her down, grabbing her hoodie, “Calm yourself,” then persisting after she yells at everyone sharing their two cents on her sex stuff “just leave me the hell alone.” I encourage you to think twice before trying any of that on an actual person IRL.
Just because something turns out OK doesn’t mean it is OK. I don’t expect to change your mind but we’re not gonna agree on this.
Having thought on it, while I stand by my assessment that Dorothy’s approach to this was inappropriate at best, Joyce is simply humoring her, maybe because she feels bad about blowing up at her in public earlier and she knows Dorothy wouldn’t intentionally hurt her
Yeah, that sums it up pretty well.
It’s not like Dorothy to risk her chances of becoming president, either.
It’s probably gonna be backed up in some unexpected way at the end, for all I know Joyce or Dorothy or even Joe is just dreaming all this.
*Surely* spending some cash on a halfway decent magic wand or something would be less trouble than this
Sailor Joyce, use the Wand of Power! 😂
It was already increasingly weird and uncomfortable but taking her phone and shoving material in her face hit a threshold for me and now it’s WEIRDDD