What about if they’re featherless because they’re plucked and roasting over a fire? Dina is canonically a fan of eating dinosaurs, after all—dino dinin’, if you will.
Considering that the dilophosaurus is the most scientifically incorrect representation in the JP franchise, I’m pretty sure making it look like the movie version would be a turn-off.
What would nude-achu look like anyway? They’re the mouse pokemon, but lay eggs like monotreme, undergo metamorphosis like an insect, and can produce high grade electric shocks like an electric eel (which are fish but not eels).
Happy to answer this one! “Classical” eels–whether riverine, conger, moray, etc.–are part of the order Anguilliformes (in classical scientific classification, multiple families are grouped into an order and multiple orders are grouped into a class; Carnivora and Primates are two examples of mammalian orders, Mammalia being a class). By contrast, “electric eels” are a single genus, Electrophorus–two famous examples of dinosaurian genus would be Tyrannosaurus and Triceratops–within the naked-back knifefish family, which is in the order Gymnotiformes. Biologically-speaking, calling an electric eel an actual eel would be somewhat like saying a thylacine (the extinct striped marsupial from Australia and Tasmania) is a “tiger” because “eh, they both have stripes and their faces are vaguely similar in shape”.
it’s kind of like how european Magpies are corvids, while australian magpies are Artamids, which are not closely related to corvids at all, despite their superficial visual similarities.
Electric eels are called eels because they look like other eels like the Moray, not because they are related to the true eels.
If we were to discover today a reptile with no visible limbs that ambulated like a snake, we’d probably call it a snake, even if later on we find out that is actually an offshoot of iguanas and it turns out it’s just a iguana noodle.
Even so distantly related, European magpies and Australian magpies are still more closely related than true eels and electric eels are–Corvidae and Artamidae are both bird families of the passerine order. Ditto for iguanas and snakes, which are both still squamate reptiles. Milu’s analogy above about “calling humans ‘bats’ because they have weird flat faces” is a more applicable example of the utter distance between true eels and electric eels.
Depends on if you mean stark naked or just nudity. Cuz I feel like Casually topless should be achieved within a week of first sexual experience (or within a month of non-sexual experiences).
However I am biased because casually topless is a thing I want in my relationships. Bras included. I just want that level of comfort.
It really depends, some couples just arnt that sexual with eachother, since Sex isnt all that important.
In the case of THIS couple, I doubt Becky would be comfortable with it until maybe a year into her marriage to Dina lol.
There definitely isnt a general answer here. Some folks are fine and comfortable being naked around total strangers, for example. Others arent even fine being around long time friends. Some couples never embrace casual nudity, ever. And theres not really a should.
I know people where after, like, the first time having sex it is casual nudity all the time. And I know of a married couple that had a great relationship until one of them died, who had two children together, where they apparently *never* saw the other completely naked.
I do have the power to give Dina what she wants. But is it right for me to wield such power lightly? Especially when I know it can never transcend the boundaries of canon.
Trust me bruh, if I can achieve such transcendence by making her gorge herself in a literal GAG game, then surely making Becky naked should be no problem for you! 😜
Speaking of giving Dina what she wants, you think she’d want superpowers too?
not to be confused with the marvel supervillain Sauron (yes, that’s actually his supervillain name), who famously and memetically wants to turn other people into dinosaurs.
And yes, he did name himself specifically after the Sauron from Lord of the Rings. Because he is a huge dork. And also an energy vampire.
Who is also not to be confused with Stegron, a Stegosaurus-man who also wants to turn everyone into dinosaurs, but is neither a vampire nor a dork, and therefor far inferior.
Marvel Sauron is actually a TERRIBLE dork, because when he names himself he says it’s because Sauron is Tolkien’s greatest villain, and Melkor/Morgoth is RIGHT THE FUCK THERE.
Silmarillion was not published until nine years after Sauron (Marvel) was introduced, and the panel you’re referring to was written.
While an unspecified “great darkness” is referred to throughout Lord of the Rings, it is never given a name in those books.
Morgoth does get mentioned briefly when Legolas is recounting the loss of Gandalf at the hands of “the Balrog of Morgoth.” Given only that description, I would have assumed that Morgoth was a place.
So I just looked up when Marvel!Sauron debuted…and it was apparently in 1969, when Tolkien himself was still very much alive. Although he did get infrequent mentions in The Lord of the Rings (which I’m currently rereading now; at the point I am currently in the book I can recall having crossed off just two such mentions–a not-by-name mention when Aragorn recounts the tale of Beren and Luthien in Book One, and then name-dropped in Book Two when speaking in Lothlorien of the Balrog), I’m pretty sure Morgoth remained fairly obscure on the whole until The Silmarillion was first published in 1977, four years after Tolkien’s death.
@Jeff K! Aragorn’s recitation of the tale of Beren and Luthien does mention their winning one of the Silmarils from “the Great Enemy, of whom Sauron of old was only a servant”; however, he’s not explicitly identified as Morgoth there, you’re right.
Yep. I just shared that particular panel on a Facebook group last week, and had almost this exact conversation four times with different people, so I did research to make sure I had my facts straight.
In 1977, you wouldn’t refer to George Lucas’ ultimate villain as Emperor Palpatine, even though he had been vaguely mentioned in passing. You’d say Darth Vader.
Even in 1980 you probably still wouldn’t say the Emperor, due to his extremely limited screen time.
In 1983, your answer might be different, as we had seen Palpatine’s evil firsthand by that point.
(this is even if you ignore the fact that there’s only one bad guy in the entirety of Tolkien lore, and that’s Eru Iluvatar, because he’s the only being that can make choices)
This has nothing to do with social cues. This is about learning that people differ: some people like to be tickled and some can’t stand it at all under any circumstances whatsoever.
(Also: not everyone is into whatever a chastity cage might be.)
I feel like I’ve learned way more about wellermans kinks that i ever needed or am comfortable with today .-.
I’m begging you to chill with the chastity belt and fetish comments it is so uncomfortable
Right? Deeply tired of people thinking it’s appropriate to describe their kinks in detail, in public, around a bunch of people who didn’t consent to be part of their fetishes.
It’s evident that I upset a number of you, and I’m really sorry if I caused you any stress!!! 🥺
I’m actually not that into chastity belts — in this context though, I was just asking Yotomoe in particular because some time ago, he said himself that he finds them “the antithesis of sexy”, and was curious as to what he found worse between that and tickling. I didn’t mean to upset anyone.
Genuinely unclear which part makes it upsetting – is it that you’re reading it as being about Wellerman’s personal kinks and that’s uncomfortable because they’re a specific person? or is it just that it’s non-normative sexual behavior? I can grok the former, but if the latter, like… this is a pretty specifically horny comic in an overall sex-positive series. Labeling particular (legal) behaviors as too outre to discuss in an already sexual setting seems too much like knee-jerk ick factor to be comfortable.
It’s because it’s generally in bad taste to air your own fetishes and sexual interests in a place that isn’t meant for them to be aired about and read. This is a comment section on a webcomic that keeps most of its NSFW behind a paywall. I read this comic in highschool.
This isn’t a forum to talk about kinks, it’s not a privated chat in a server, this is not a porn comic.
This is a sex positive comic, but that doesn’t mean the comments need to entail someones personal fetishes. There is discomfort in having to read something in a place it arguably shouldn’t be? It’s like being confused that someone is uncomfortable when someone near you in like, a walmart starts talking about their fetishes. It’s not the place for it.
It is really fascinating to me how much Becky doesn’t realize that her hangups about her body and sexuality (all sexuality, not just hers) are very much an outlier, and someone without the religious baggage . . . just won’t have them.
I don’t know some people are just shy about their bodies. I was never all that religious and I always changed in the changing room’s bathroom stalls during PE so no one could see me in my underwear.
Oh absolutely! But I mean specifically, in the context of intimate time with a partner, Becky still thinks of sex as something everyone feels is scary – but Dina is clearly not intimidated by the idea of sex at all.
Yeah, I’m gonna push back on this a bit. Religious trauma is not the only reason one might find sex scary, even in an intimate relationship. Poor education, body dysmorphia or dysphoria, peer pressure, concerns about whether your partner is the right one for you, or even just the fact that new experiences by their nature can be scary when you try them for the first time!
If anything, I think Dina might be the outlier. Just no inhibitions or worries whatsoever.
I think what Thulcandran may have meant is not “Everyone who doesn’t have religious baggage wouldn’t have hang-ups.” But rather, “Becky is realizing that a version of Becky without the religious baggage wouldn’t have the hang-ups.”
Becky is probably self-aware enough that, when she (for the first time) inquires “What would I be like if I hadn’t had my narrow religious upbringing?” she realizes “Oh, there’s an alternate version of me that has no hang-ups! And that would be normal and healthy and not sick and twisted and doomed like I was taught!”
And maybe she further realizes… “…And it’s not my faith, just my religion, that gives me those hang-ups! What do I do now??”
Actually, re-reading what Thulcandran wrote, they’re saying that Becky hasn’t had this realization yet. But I think the realization I described may be the one Thulcandran is saying Becky hasn’t had.
(Also, nice name-reference, Thulcandran! Which would you rather hang out with, a hross or a sorn?)
Yeah, pretty much. There are plenty of reasons to have hang-ups about nudity or bodies or sexuality, but religious hang-ups, specifically, are 1) the majority of the source in the US, and 2) pernicious and specific and very different from shyness or asexuality or dysphoria, and tied to shame, guilt, and fear.
So basically, I think the sentence people are responding to is “Becky doesn’t realize … hang-ups about her body and sexuality,” whereas what I meant was “Becky doesn’t [yet] realize her specific hang-ups about her body and sexuality are an outlier.”
I certainly didn’t mean to dismiss all reluctance to git nekkid as Weird Problems. I’m just thinking about conversations I had with Ex-Vangelical-Still-Christians where they were surprised to realize that I had no intention of waiting until marriage to have sex (given that… marriage for me was illegal in most states…), or insistent that doing anything beyond fully-clothed dry-humping would result in persistent, heavy guilt and shame (as was natural and right).
(Aw thanks! Folks don’t recognize it often; tbh I think it should probably be “Thulcandrian,” but I realized that like seven months too late. 😀 Definitely a hross, the hrossa were awesome and the speech about danger and the beauty of life is one of my favorite bits of the trilogy.)
Nope! Not unless they both wear boxers. There’s a timeskip between each flashback panel, and they go from pants in panel three to shorts in panel four, which mighta thrown you.
Trust me, I can with total mathematical confidence tell you that there’s at least one girl out there who thinks that seeing you naked is the best thing ever. 😉
“The tension is I would like to see you naked but you are not yet naked. Also I require clarification, which of us is the domme and which of us is the sub?”
what is Becky’s expression in the third panel? It looks to me like genuine hurt and offense. Can’t say I feel sorry for her though, she’s the one who brought it up and it’s sort of shitty to suggest things while expecting people to reject them
I think when you’re brought up to associate sex with embarrassment and shame in order to discourage you from doing it, sometimes that backfires and people start finding embarrassment and shame sexy/appealing/normal? Becky assumed Dina would be mortified and blushy, because that’s how SHE’D react, and how she was taught was the correct way to react, and it would be cute. I don’t think she knows how to parse enthusiastic lack of shame as a response. It’s a little sad.
Well, Dina was on one occasion horny for the idea of doing science with her, and finds her attractive in certain non-sexual ways. Whether Dina’s horny for her in broader circumstances is what they’re trying to find out!
I think Nelly’s read is a good one, so this isn’t a disagreement, but this is how I felt when I saw this last night:
Becky’s only just now been reassured that if Dina, or indeed a sexual partner in general, becomes aroused, it will not trigger some kind of feral state where sex is inevitable. And I think to Becky what that meant is that Dina, no matter how aroused or excited she gets, will respect and understand Becky’s boundaries. Becky can put nudity on the table and Dina, not being a feral sex monster, will put her own needs aside and turn Becky down. And instead what happens is that Dina expresses excitement and exerts pressure, which short-circuits the binary Becky only just thought she had a handle on two minutes ago.
Yup. Becky made an outrageous-to-her offer she didn’t expect Dina to take her up on, now she’s panicking because she thinks she’s falling down the proverbial slippery slope she was always warned about.
What she expected to happen:
B: “What if I… got naked for you?!”
D: “No, I cannot ask that of you! Not yet!”
B: *sly grin*
What actually happened:
B: “What if I… got naked for you?!”
D: “Yes, please!”
B: [Unhandled exception error]
Also I think it’s dawning on her that their comfort levels are so different that she might not have anything more to add since all of her ideas are along the lines of hinting at instead of outright doing sexy things.
I would also encourage giving Becky a bit more leeway in things like this. Yes it’s a shitty thing to do, but it’s quite possibly a social mechanic she was raised with, and she hasn’t been outside of her original social context for that long, there’s a lot to unlearn. Just because she’s done some of the work on her own independently (like modification of her own faith) doesn’t mean she even knew all of what needed to be done, especially in terms of social propriety.
I’ve known aces who’re into sex, aces who hate sex, aces who’re ambivalent, aces for whom it’s complicated, but I don’t believe I’ve ever met an adult asexual whom I’d describe as a “pure smol bean whomst Chaste Thoughts.”
I’m not saying they don’t exist, but anecdotal evidence suggests it’s a weird assumption to make about someone.
Yeah lol. I’m extremely ace but my god. My mind is in the gutter a LOT. Think about sex all the time.
Just never partnered sex involving ME, nor any person I’m attracted to, because I’m not attracted to anyone, nor have any real interest in having sex with any particular person. Sex is, to me, an entirely solo activity–but hypothetical sex that other hypothetical people do is still incredibly fun to think about. And hot.
Sirens was overall not a great show but there’s one convo I loved, between ace Voodoo and her new allosexual, a-little-confused-but-he-got-the-spirit boyfriend:
“So, do you…do you masturbate?”
“Yes.”
“Do you want help?”
“No.”
There are so many ways to be ace, and if you think that resonates with you, I’m really glad. I just happen to be an ace person with a VERY high libido, which for a while was quite frustrating when you’re taught the only ‘true’ way to satisfy libido is partnered sex. But try as I might, I just was never interested in anyone, nor motivated enough by libido to throw myself at someone (not that anyone has been interested in me that way…probably ever, whoop? but hey, bonus of being ace is that I genuinely do not care about that at all), so here I am, a 27-year-old asexual virgin who has a vibrant individual sex life.
I’m absolutely flabbergasted at Becky reaction to “I’d like to see my Becky naked” with a “wait what” instead of a “yes, Mistress” 😛
(Wait, would Dina go for that title? I feel like “Doctor” could work.)
Also omg Willis put that Joyce strip in February 14th just so he could crush the spirit of the day before continuing with these two. I love this madman
That play from Emperor Willis was like level 10 billion or something, straight out of Dragon Ball Z!!!
Willis be like “YES!!! THEY FELL FOR IT!!!”, and we be like, “AWE CRAP”, as he seals us into an energy field of pure suspense and kicks us around until he bounces us into FUCKING ORBIT BRUH!!!!
Oh!!! And if there’s anything that I think would be SO cool, it’s Dina as a super mad scientist doctor, with super science sex toys she invented herself!!!!
Also, Dina as a domme, especially a chastity domme, like something that might already be happening bruh!!! 🤪🤪🤪 😈😈😈
Oh kay, I can’t contain my excitement much longer!!!!
😆😆😆😆
I’m working on something super that I want to share with you! Here’s a hint, it’s really relevant right now. That may or may not involve a video game! Could you drop a discord so I can share it with you?
Heeey :DDD Yeah, I’d love to take a look! I’m almost falling asleep here (wanted to take a last look at the comment section before I passed out , amshf) but I’ll be sure to come back and check it out!
Re: Dina – I have read some of the Walkyverse (through the years, though I consumed Shortpacked on its entirety) and she was in a relationship with Mike. I remember her liking tying him up? If someone else could come provide more context it’d be great but yeaah, due to the “sexuality doesn’t change” soft rule Willis has going, I’m not surprised, and pretty giddy about this :’3
I kinda only wanna share it with you tho. You just seems so cool and I think you could help me with it actually. It’s a really special something that I want really polish. And I want it to be a surprise for everyone.
“You will see one upper arm, maybe also the other one if the first one doesn’t do it!”
Well, so much for science. By revealing to your subject the results you were expecting, you have now empowered the subject to give a false response to either 1) mess with your research or 2) achieve their own ends.
And for that matter, how was Becky going to determine either the presence of horniness or the level of said horniness in Dina?? It’s not like there is an involuntary, easily-detectable way of observing horniness on a clothed female.
First Becky is worried about Dina not finding her attractive, then she isn’t happy because Dina shows enthusiasm to seeing her naked. Becky, honey, is there a way to win with you.
Is the reality that you actually want a Christian lesbian like you, overcome with lust to the point of absurdity but unable to consummate until marriage like Joyce once was a straight version of and… uh. Right. You had a massive one sided crush on her. For years. Which may or may not still be there.
Maybe another reason she’s being bad about the Joyce being an atheist thing after all, is that perhaps still lingering crush. Like the current view is that Joyce is straight (though I also like the theory she’s bi/into Dorothy and just not into Becky at all) but it’s another canon ball into her fantasy of romance I guess. Her past Christian love fantasy also isn’t even a Christian anymore.
Like it’s just a theory and definitely not the only reason if there’s a shred of truth to it but like, idk, before the time skip we had Sarah bring up Becky’s lingering feelings for Joyce. And while it would also be valid for the story just to not go there for relationship drama: Willis is free to change his mind and in such a long running story there shall always be something left untouched, especially given said time skip: I do wonder.
That’s actually part of why I feel Becky was so hurt by Joyce’s conversion to atheism. Becky most definitely still has unrequited feelings for Joyce, and I suspect that part of her is still desperately hoping against hope that SOMEHOW, Joyce will magically realize that Becky is the one for her and the two of them can be happy Christian lesbians together. With Joyce no longer Christian, that’s a further major blow to Becky’s dream, and I think the realization is sinking in that she and Joyce are inexorably drifting apart down different paths in life.
For what it’s worth, I also believe that Becky genuinely does love/have deep affection for Dina, but part of her will always look wistfully at Joyce and mourn for what might have been.
I think another aspect is that she’s got very contradictory urges set up within her own mind. I don’t think there is a way to win for her (I say for and not with, because this conflict is not just external, both of these things are making her unhappy) until she figures out that she’s in a self-defeating situation and needs to make some hard choices that she’s so far been kicking down the road.
“Get Naked For Science” in large extruded letters, with the heads and arms of Dina, Becky and Professor Brock, smiling and waving in 1930s “rubber hose”-style artwork; or a 1950s retro-futuristic Populuxe motif.
Was just scanning the comment and saw Name, Name, and Brock, picturing Brock from Pokemon, and it felt random because what’s he got to do with science but was pretty in character, I could definitely see him using that as a ploy some time.
Anyway, this is random and almost completely irrelevant now I know that’s not who you meant, but I felt like sharing.
I think Becky is ping ponging between different expectations that keep getting destroyed by Dina being genuinely chill about sex, and even excited to satisfy her girlfriend, but not to the point where she loses self control. Kind of wrecks the specific experience Becky expects and maybe even wants from Dina.
Also the ping-ponging between simultaneously wanting to do the sexytimes (for obvious reasons) and feeling bad for/wanting to not actually do the sexytimes (due to religious reasons).
Religious is pretty much it. It’s funny that some commenters keep pushing away from religious trauma even though that’s literally a massive part Becky’s backstory. It ain’t just Joyce that’s struggling with it.
Nah it’s just Becky’s moral failings. Shes being so unfair to poor Dina, if she could choose her god didn’t hate her for the crime of existing, then why can’t she just drop all that other pesky trauma that’s been systematically drilled into her since the age of birth
I wouldn’t call all her morals the result of trauma, many of them are probably the result of normal morality absorbtion. Morality is a subset of conditioning. Every moral you’ve ever had is the result of conditioning, intentional conditioning or not, by yourself, by others around you, or by your non-human environment.
Becky is trying to figure out which of her moral rules she wants to keep and which she wants to do away with, and that is hard enough for people without a god, for those with a god it is that much harder.
I’m just making fun of the people acting like it’s Becky’s fault she still has religious sexual hangups while getting past the more hateful parts of the doctrine. People acting like it’s a “moral failing” that she’s too scared to fuck Dina but also feels insecure about whether Dina’s attracted to her
It’s something else watching Becky struggle with how perfect Dina is for her in writing(doesn’t desire sex thus making sex before marriage easy, but is cool with sex so if Becky wanted to she could go there anyway) but cause of Becky’s religious hang ups, she’s stuck in this place of uncertainty.
This could all easily be resolved with sexy times still happening but I’m sensing a conversation around Becky’s insecurities with Dina, at least I’m hoping for one. With all these stops and starts I think Becky needs to unpack some feelings before she can even think about sexytimes(regardless of sex itself happening).
And Becky runs into the fundamental issue of being a bluffy bluffing bluffer, namely that at some point you’re going to get your bluff called out and then there’s no good way forward.
I feel there was a character shift towards puritanism in Becky. Possibly even a retcon. I mean, she got expelled for making out with a roommate initially. That was off-page, of course.
It’s not entirely out of nowhere. She said she felt “kinda naked” after Sal took back the jacket she borrowed, leaving her in a cropped tank top. That was way back in the “crash with Joyce on the down-low” days.
Huh. So now we know that when Dina explained to Joe that her methods would ruin him, we know she was 100% right. For real though, I am so here for this. I hope Becky doesn’t have a breakdown because that would be sad, but I do hope she finally gets around to confronting some things she’s been repressing with jokes. She’s going to have to learn how to do that if she wants to make progress and really enjoy the freedom she fought so hard to gain from her family and church.
Nick Roche getting to draw for a new Transformers cartoon where Elita One gets to be a main character is the feel good story I was not expecting today.
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Becky’s gun show??
*flies off the handle*
I thought they were off the table for the next book title, Alt!
Kinda feel like Sarah’s gonna get the next book title
Hey, I’m with the alt-text on this one.
Seconded! ^^
Book 12: Get Naked For SCIENCE!
Definitely the best potential book title so far.
“The Euphoria *is* in my pants” was the best book title that didn’t get used, forever and always.
I forget. How do you get the alt.text?
If you’re on mobile, tap just to the right of the navigation bar
ok so we are getting a slipshine then
Becky Performs A Rather Reluctant Striptease.
I tried twice to link classical music appropriate to the strip but no luck so far.
Does Japanese Disco count as classical music?
It you have to ask you’ll never know.
You asked for this, Becky.
If anything, Dina called her bluff.
(moar liek called her buff heyoo!)
Dina’s gonna make Becky get a tattoo on her butt of a Dilophosaurus.
Honestly? Some temporary dinosaur tattoos in strategic places would practically guarantee some horny from Dina.
Could be a useful strategy in the future.
Provided they were scientifically accurate. No featherless raptors!
What about if they’re featherless because they’re plucked and roasting over a fire? Dina is canonically a fan of eating dinosaurs, after all—dino dinin’, if you will.
Sexing this year or not, something I really want to see before I die is the power and prowess of the Emperor of Evolution during a FEEDING FRENZY!!!
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 🥳🥳🥳 🍿🍿🍿 🥤🥤🥤
*Empress of Evolution.
Seriously tho, if worse comes to worse and they don’t sex for another year, just watching a frenzy like THAT would be REALLY cool!
They can play “draw the feathers on the dinosaur” with sharpie.
Full-body dinosaur-woman makeup might do the trick. Problem is, Dina might never let her wash it off…
its mouth is the butthole, so you gotta spread the cheeks to make the frill come out
Considering that the dilophosaurus is the most scientifically incorrect representation in the JP franchise, I’m pretty sure making it look like the movie version would be a turn-off.
Eh… Have you seen their Dimorphodon or Deinonychus?
At least their Dilophosaurus is recognizably a Dilophosaurus
Oh my, looks like Becky’s chastity really IS in danger!!!!
😈😈😈
*plays “Danger Pikachu” on Hacked Muzak*
I was going to suggest Adam Ant’s “Strip” but you were here first.
Pikachu! Get naked for science!
🤪🤪🤪
I dunno, they’re kinda already naked?
What happens inside a pokeball anyway?
I mean, Meowth was pretty happy that once (briefly) when Pikachu almost caught him, but that was with a Luxury Ball so *shrugs*
What would nude-achu look like anyway? They’re the mouse pokemon, but lay eggs like monotreme, undergo metamorphosis like an insect, and can produce high grade electric shocks like an electric eel (which are fish but not eels).
Eels are fish. They’re one branch of perfectly ordinary teleosts that have lost the pelvic fins.
Yeah, but what True Survivor was saying is that electric eels aren’t a type of eel. They’re not even closely related.
Having never eaten an eel, electric or non-, I wonder if maybe I’m missing out in an important scientific comparison.
Happy to answer this one! “Classical” eels–whether riverine, conger, moray, etc.–are part of the order Anguilliformes (in classical scientific classification, multiple families are grouped into an order and multiple orders are grouped into a class; Carnivora and Primates are two examples of mammalian orders, Mammalia being a class). By contrast, “electric eels” are a single genus, Electrophorus–two famous examples of dinosaurian genus would be Tyrannosaurus and Triceratops–within the naked-back knifefish family, which is in the order Gymnotiformes. Biologically-speaking, calling an electric eel an actual eel would be somewhat like saying a thylacine (the extinct striped marsupial from Australia and Tasmania) is a “tiger” because “eh, they both have stripes and their faces are vaguely similar in shape”.
It would be like if an electric eel called humans bats because they have weird flat faces.
I just meant the flavor and texture, but that’s also cool to know.
it’s kind of like how european Magpies are corvids, while australian magpies are Artamids, which are not closely related to corvids at all, despite their superficial visual similarities.
Electric eels are called eels because they look like other eels like the Moray, not because they are related to the true eels.
If we were to discover today a reptile with no visible limbs that ambulated like a snake, we’d probably call it a snake, even if later on we find out that is actually an offshoot of iguanas and it turns out it’s just a iguana noodle.
Even so distantly related, European magpies and Australian magpies are still more closely related than true eels and electric eels are–Corvidae and Artamidae are both bird families of the passerine order. Ditto for iguanas and snakes, which are both still squamate reptiles. Milu’s analogy above about “calling humans ‘bats’ because they have weird flat faces” is a more applicable example of the utter distance between true eels and electric eels.
Yeah but humans are also a type of fish so saying something is a type of fish doesn’t mean a whole lot. Important point is not being eels.
I’m pretty sure there’s a fair amount of pokemon porn out there if you really want an answer to that question.
Ooh, interesting development.
The Horny levels here have been increasing steadily these past few comics and show little signs of stopping.
I hope we reach critical mass.
I don’t think we can handle critical mass
Maybe not you earthlings, but an alien parasite like me knows a thing or two about mitigation of horny radiation.
We can even wrap it up and absorb it later, like a spider storing its meals.
👾🕷️😈🕷️👾
So you are saying you are a succubus?
It’s only a matter of time until the mass goes supercritical.
Fellas
How long should a relationship be until being naked to each other is a comfortable thing
*tents hands*
Depends on if you mean stark naked or just nudity. Cuz I feel like Casually topless should be achieved within a week of first sexual experience (or within a month of non-sexual experiences).
However I am biased because casually topless is a thing I want in my relationships. Bras included. I just want that level of comfort.
also boobsIt really depends, some couples just arnt that sexual with eachother, since Sex isnt all that important.
In the case of THIS couple, I doubt Becky would be comfortable with it until maybe a year into her marriage to Dina lol.
Within three hours of meeting, or not until the third date.
At least 12
There definitely isnt a general answer here. Some folks are fine and comfortable being naked around total strangers, for example. Others arent even fine being around long time friends. Some couples never embrace casual nudity, ever. And theres not really a should.
Hugely variable!
I know people where after, like, the first time having sex it is casual nudity all the time. And I know of a married couple that had a great relationship until one of them died, who had two children together, where they apparently *never* saw the other completely naked.
I do have the power to give Dina what she wants. But is it right for me to wield such power lightly? Especially when I know it can never transcend the boundaries of canon.
The challenge of any artist, the Canon Barrier, or Source Wall if you prefer, lol.
Trust me bruh, if I can achieve such transcendence by making her gorge herself in a literal GAG game, then surely making Becky naked should be no problem for you! 😜
Speaking of giving Dina what she wants, you think she’d want superpowers too?
I meant Joyce gorging herself…
Eh, maybe.
there’s a marvel superhero now with the power to turn into any dinosaur
not to be confused with the marvel supervillain Sauron (yes, that’s actually his supervillain name), who famously and memetically wants to turn other people into dinosaurs.
And yes, he did name himself specifically after the Sauron from Lord of the Rings. Because he is a huge dork. And also an energy vampire.
Who is also not to be confused with Stegron, a Stegosaurus-man who also wants to turn everyone into dinosaurs, but is neither a vampire nor a dork, and therefor far inferior.
Marvel Sauron is actually a TERRIBLE dork, because when he names himself he says it’s because Sauron is Tolkien’s greatest villain, and Melkor/Morgoth is RIGHT THE FUCK THERE.
Silmarillion was not published until nine years after Sauron (Marvel) was introduced, and the panel you’re referring to was written.
While an unspecified “great darkness” is referred to throughout Lord of the Rings, it is never given a name in those books.
Morgoth does get mentioned briefly when Legolas is recounting the loss of Gandalf at the hands of “the Balrog of Morgoth.” Given only that description, I would have assumed that Morgoth was a place.
So I just looked up when Marvel!Sauron debuted…and it was apparently in 1969, when Tolkien himself was still very much alive. Although he did get infrequent mentions in The Lord of the Rings (which I’m currently rereading now; at the point I am currently in the book I can recall having crossed off just two such mentions–a not-by-name mention when Aragorn recounts the tale of Beren and Luthien in Book One, and then name-dropped in Book Two when speaking in Lothlorien of the Balrog), I’m pretty sure Morgoth remained fairly obscure on the whole until The Silmarillion was first published in 1977, four years after Tolkien’s death.
@Jeff K! Aragorn’s recitation of the tale of Beren and Luthien does mention their winning one of the Silmarils from “the Great Enemy, of whom Sauron of old was only a servant”; however, he’s not explicitly identified as Morgoth there, you’re right.
Yep. I just shared that particular panel on a Facebook group last week, and had almost this exact conversation four times with different people, so I did research to make sure I had my facts straight.
In 1977, you wouldn’t refer to George Lucas’ ultimate villain as Emperor Palpatine, even though he had been vaguely mentioned in passing. You’d say Darth Vader.
Even in 1980 you probably still wouldn’t say the Emperor, due to his extremely limited screen time.
In 1983, your answer might be different, as we had seen Palpatine’s evil firsthand by that point.
(this is even if you ignore the fact that there’s only one bad guy in the entirety of Tolkien lore, and that’s Eru Iluvatar, because he’s the only being that can make choices)
Show them tiddies for SCIENCE!
If you’re ok with it that is.
Dina’s non-typical but delighted journey with romance and attraction has been so fun to read.
haha poor Becky, remember you’re allowed to keep your boundaries.
but also, NAKED FOR SCIENCE
Dina’s horny smile. Very similar to the one she has for cereal. Not quite the same, though.
Everyone get nude for science.
Be careful showing off those arms, Becky I know for a fact that Armpits are an absolute kink for a lotta people.
Yeah! Especially if they’re ticklish! 😜
Offhand, being tickled is the fucking worst and I’m liable to punch someone out of reflex if they try tickling me.
Even if it was a girl? And you were restrained by said girl? 😏
Y’know if it was ANYTHING else, I’d say I’d like it if that happened to me. But nope, my hatred of tickling runs DEEP
😈 Deeper than getting dominated by a girl with a chastity cage?
tickling is pretty bad. you really can’t think of anything but the tickles and your discomfort
Hmmm… and you think a chastity belt would be better?
Sometimes yeah, ’cause there are some soft ones made of rubber. 😆 ☺️
Maybe this isn’t the place for this discussion.
Eh, fuck social cues, that frickin guessing game.
Now is time to LEARN.
This has nothing to do with social cues. This is about learning that people differ: some people like to be tickled and some can’t stand it at all under any circumstances whatsoever.
(Also: not everyone is into whatever a chastity cage might be.)
Of course, I was just asked Yoto originally when I asked that, and a/snow/mouse invited themselves because they seemed like they were interested too.
People don’t have to answer if they don’t want to, but I also don’t want to miss the opportunity to learn about people by not asking it.
Honestly I didn’t know to think about what Rabbit said, I thought they were being sarcastic, I dunno.
Oh! But if I caused you or anyone else any stress, I’m really sorry!!! 😣
Yes, is time to learn why “that frickin guessing game” is important and can’t just be disregarded.
Gotta read the room, bud.
I really intended only to ask anyone other than Yoto or a/snow/mouse, but I guess I should have made that more clear.
I was really trying to strike a joking tone, but ah well, failed attempts at humor are discoveries too, I guess.
I feel like I’ve learned way more about wellermans kinks that i ever needed or am comfortable with today .-.
I’m begging you to chill with the chastity belt and fetish comments it is so uncomfortable
Right? Deeply tired of people thinking it’s appropriate to describe their kinks in detail, in public, around a bunch of people who didn’t consent to be part of their fetishes.
It’s evident that I upset a number of you, and I’m really sorry if I caused you any stress!!! 🥺
I’m actually not that into chastity belts — in this context though, I was just asking Yotomoe in particular because some time ago, he said himself that he finds them “the antithesis of sexy”, and was curious as to what he found worse between that and tickling. I didn’t mean to upset anyone.
Genuinely unclear which part makes it upsetting – is it that you’re reading it as being about Wellerman’s personal kinks and that’s uncomfortable because they’re a specific person? or is it just that it’s non-normative sexual behavior? I can grok the former, but if the latter, like… this is a pretty specifically horny comic in an overall sex-positive series. Labeling particular (legal) behaviors as too outre to discuss in an already sexual setting seems too much like knee-jerk ick factor to be comfortable.
Replying to Zee but also to Orson.
It’s because it’s generally in bad taste to air your own fetishes and sexual interests in a place that isn’t meant for them to be aired about and read. This is a comment section on a webcomic that keeps most of its NSFW behind a paywall. I read this comic in highschool.
This isn’t a forum to talk about kinks, it’s not a privated chat in a server, this is not a porn comic.
This is a sex positive comic, but that doesn’t mean the comments need to entail someones personal fetishes. There is discomfort in having to read something in a place it arguably shouldn’t be? It’s like being confused that someone is uncomfortable when someone near you in like, a walmart starts talking about their fetishes. It’s not the place for it.
Show Dina those shoulders!!!
That at least seems to have sparked some horny curiosity. Horniosity?
horniception for Dina. Boobs and pits to drive her over the edge.
It is really fascinating to me how much Becky doesn’t realize that her hangups about her body and sexuality (all sexuality, not just hers) are very much an outlier, and someone without the religious baggage . . . just won’t have them.
But I’ve seen this before IRL, so I kinda get it.
I don’t know some people are just shy about their bodies. I was never all that religious and I always changed in the changing room’s bathroom stalls during PE so no one could see me in my underwear.
Oh absolutely! But I mean specifically, in the context of intimate time with a partner, Becky still thinks of sex as something everyone feels is scary – but Dina is clearly not intimidated by the idea of sex at all.
And I was shy about my body because whoops trans that was not the correct body for me to be not-shy about.
Yeah, I’m gonna push back on this a bit. Religious trauma is not the only reason one might find sex scary, even in an intimate relationship. Poor education, body dysmorphia or dysphoria, peer pressure, concerns about whether your partner is the right one for you, or even just the fact that new experiences by their nature can be scary when you try them for the first time!
If anything, I think Dina might be the outlier. Just no inhibitions or worries whatsoever.
I think what Thulcandran may have meant is not “Everyone who doesn’t have religious baggage wouldn’t have hang-ups.” But rather, “Becky is realizing that a version of Becky without the religious baggage wouldn’t have the hang-ups.”
Becky is probably self-aware enough that, when she (for the first time) inquires “What would I be like if I hadn’t had my narrow religious upbringing?” she realizes “Oh, there’s an alternate version of me that has no hang-ups! And that would be normal and healthy and not sick and twisted and doomed like I was taught!”
And maybe she further realizes… “…And it’s not my faith, just my religion, that gives me those hang-ups! What do I do now??”
Actually, re-reading what Thulcandran wrote, they’re saying that Becky hasn’t had this realization yet. But I think the realization I described may be the one Thulcandran is saying Becky hasn’t had.
(Also, nice name-reference, Thulcandran! Which would you rather hang out with, a hross or a sorn?)
Yeah, pretty much. There are plenty of reasons to have hang-ups about nudity or bodies or sexuality, but religious hang-ups, specifically, are 1) the majority of the source in the US, and 2) pernicious and specific and very different from shyness or asexuality or dysphoria, and tied to shame, guilt, and fear.
So basically, I think the sentence people are responding to is “Becky doesn’t realize … hang-ups about her body and sexuality,” whereas what I meant was “Becky doesn’t [yet] realize her specific hang-ups about her body and sexuality are an outlier.”
I certainly didn’t mean to dismiss all reluctance to git nekkid as Weird Problems. I’m just thinking about conversations I had with Ex-Vangelical-Still-Christians where they were surprised to realize that I had no intention of waiting until marriage to have sex (given that… marriage for me was illegal in most states…), or insistent that doing anything beyond fully-clothed dry-humping would result in persistent, heavy guilt and shame (as was natural and right).
(Aw thanks! Folks don’t recognize it often; tbh I think it should probably be “Thulcandrian,” but I realized that like seven months too late. 😀 Definitely a hross, the hrossa were awesome and the speech about danger and the beauty of life is one of my favorite bits of the trilogy.)
“I would like to see My Becky naked” is just adorably sexy
yeah this entire fucking storyline is just me swooning
And with Dina’s clasping hands and pleased face – it’s a wonderful panel.
Emphasis on “adorable,” IMO.
This isn’t so much calling a bluff as enthusiastically embracing it.
Adorably enthusiastically embracing it.
Didn’t Becky and the girl she made out with both start taking clothes off?
Nope! Not unless they both wear boxers. There’s a timeskip between each flashback panel, and they go from pants in panel three to shorts in panel four, which mighta thrown you.
I have rarely needed anything more than I currently need a girl to look at me like that and declare that she wants to see me naked 🥺
Trust me, I can with total mathematical confidence tell you that there’s at least one girl out there who thinks that seeing you naked is the best thing ever. 😉
“Dammit, Dina! We’ve got a domme/sub thing going on, it doesn’t work if you don’t bring any tension!”
You’ve obviously never heard of gentle femdom.
“The tension is I would like to see you naked but you are not yet naked. Also I require clarification, which of us is the domme and which of us is the sub?”
Domme better be Dina ’cause if I see Becky domming Dina with a chastity belt, imma snap and send my parasite spores a flying like crazy
Oh, Dina knows who the domme is in their relationship. That was established early.
I can’t believe I forgot this strip existed! 😅
Those thoughts of Dina’s…. so relatable! 😗
what is Becky’s expression in the third panel? It looks to me like genuine hurt and offense. Can’t say I feel sorry for her though, she’s the one who brought it up and it’s sort of shitty to suggest things while expecting people to reject them
I think when you’re brought up to associate sex with embarrassment and shame in order to discourage you from doing it, sometimes that backfires and people start finding embarrassment and shame sexy/appealing/normal? Becky assumed Dina would be mortified and blushy, because that’s how SHE’D react, and how she was taught was the correct way to react, and it would be cute. I don’t think she knows how to parse enthusiastic lack of shame as a response. It’s a little sad.
Becky also still thinks Dina doesn’t find her attractive even though they are in a relationship and Dina is horny for her.
Well, Dina was on one occasion horny for the idea of doing science with her, and finds her attractive in certain non-sexual ways. Whether Dina’s horny for her in broader circumstances is what they’re trying to find out!
I think Nelly’s read is a good one, so this isn’t a disagreement, but this is how I felt when I saw this last night:
Becky’s only just now been reassured that if Dina, or indeed a sexual partner in general, becomes aroused, it will not trigger some kind of feral state where sex is inevitable. And I think to Becky what that meant is that Dina, no matter how aroused or excited she gets, will respect and understand Becky’s boundaries. Becky can put nudity on the table and Dina, not being a feral sex monster, will put her own needs aside and turn Becky down. And instead what happens is that Dina expresses excitement and exerts pressure, which short-circuits the binary Becky only just thought she had a handle on two minutes ago.
Yup. Becky made an outrageous-to-her offer she didn’t expect Dina to take her up on, now she’s panicking because she thinks she’s falling down the proverbial slippery slope she was always warned about.
What she expected to happen:
B: “What if I… got naked for you?!”
D: “No, I cannot ask that of you! Not yet!”
B: *sly grin*
What actually happened:
B: “What if I… got naked for you?!”
D: “Yes, please!”
B: [Unhandled exception error]
Also I think it’s dawning on her that their comfort levels are so different that she might not have anything more to add since all of her ideas are along the lines of hinting at instead of outright doing sexy things.
I would also encourage giving Becky a bit more leeway in things like this. Yes it’s a shitty thing to do, but it’s quite possibly a social mechanic she was raised with, and she hasn’t been outside of her original social context for that long, there’s a lot to unlearn. Just because she’s done some of the work on her own independently (like modification of her own faith) doesn’t mean she even knew all of what needed to be done, especially in terms of social propriety.
Oh Becky, clearly you don’t understand how inquisitive the scientific mind is
WELL, Becky is having a good night! XD Don’t go further than you want to though.
Look at us still talking when there’s science to do.
You get my imaginary upvote.
“Oh hi. So. How are you doing? Because I’m a Protestant.“
When I look out there
It makes me GLaD I’m not you
How did I never get that? And why am I admitting this?
G.L.A.D.O.S. would be so G.L.A.D. !!!! 😆 🤖
I hope there’s a book comin’ that’s specifically titled “Naked! Get naked for science!”
foolish baby brain: dina is asexual, which means she is a Pure smol bean whomst Chaste Thoughts
dina, galaxy brain: I want to watch my girlfriend get naked
You’ve obviously never seen Made in Abyss! 😆
I’ve known aces who’re into sex, aces who hate sex, aces who’re ambivalent, aces for whom it’s complicated, but I don’t believe I’ve ever met an adult asexual whom I’d describe as a “pure smol bean whomst Chaste Thoughts.”
I’m not saying they don’t exist, but anecdotal evidence suggests it’s a weird assumption to make about someone.
Yeah lol. I’m extremely ace but my god. My mind is in the gutter a LOT. Think about sex all the time.
Just never partnered sex involving ME, nor any person I’m attracted to, because I’m not attracted to anyone, nor have any real interest in having sex with any particular person. Sex is, to me, an entirely solo activity–but hypothetical sex that other hypothetical people do is still incredibly fun to think about. And hot.
Sirens was overall not a great show but there’s one convo I loved, between ace Voodoo and her new allosexual, a-little-confused-but-he-got-the-spirit boyfriend:
“So, do you…do you masturbate?”
“Yes.”
“Do you want help?”
“No.”
Demi/Grey crowd absolutely seconding this (except for some rather isolate circumstances).
🤭 Oh my……
I think I may just have discovered I am ace.
Thank you so much for sharing, and helping me learn something new about myself! 🤗
OMG! Well I’m happy to have helped???
There are so many ways to be ace, and if you think that resonates with you, I’m really glad. I just happen to be an ace person with a VERY high libido, which for a while was quite frustrating when you’re taught the only ‘true’ way to satisfy libido is partnered sex. But try as I might, I just was never interested in anyone, nor motivated enough by libido to throw myself at someone (not that anyone has been interested in me that way…probably ever, whoop? but hey, bonus of being ace is that I genuinely do not care about that at all), so here I am, a 27-year-old asexual virgin who has a vibrant individual sex life.
I’m absolutely flabbergasted at Becky reaction to “I’d like to see my Becky naked” with a “wait what” instead of a “yes, Mistress” 😛
(Wait, would Dina go for that title? I feel like “Doctor” could work.)
Also omg Willis put that Joyce strip in February 14th just so he could crush the spirit of the day before continuing with these two. I love this madman
BRUH, you are so right!!!! 😄
That play from Emperor Willis was like level 10 billion or something, straight out of Dragon Ball Z!!!
Willis be like “YES!!! THEY FELL FOR IT!!!”, and we be like, “AWE CRAP”, as he seals us into an energy field of pure suspense and kicks us around until he bounces us into FUCKING ORBIT BRUH!!!!
Oh!!! And if there’s anything that I think would be SO cool, it’s Dina as a super mad scientist doctor, with super science sex toys she invented herself!!!!
Also, Dina as a domme, especially a chastity domme, like something that might already be happening bruh!!! 🤪🤪🤪 😈😈😈
Oh kay, I can’t contain my excitement much longer!!!!
😆😆😆😆
I’m working on something super that I want to share with you! Here’s a hint, it’s really relevant right now. That may or may not involve a video game! Could you drop a discord so I can share it with you?
It’s related to the pixel art I make if you’ve been to my Newgrounds site!!! The one you get when you click my name!! 😆
Heeey :DDD Yeah, I’d love to take a look! I’m almost falling asleep here (wanted to take a last look at the comment section before I passed out , amshf) but I’ll be sure to come back and check it out!
Re: Dina – I have read some of the Walkyverse (through the years, though I consumed Shortpacked on its entirety) and she was in a relationship with Mike. I remember her liking tying him up? If someone else could come provide more context it’d be great but yeaah, due to the “sexuality doesn’t change” soft rule Willis has going, I’m not surprised, and pretty giddy about this :’3
I kinda only wanna share it with you tho. You just seems so cool and I think you could help me with it actually. It’s a really special something that I want really polish. And I want it to be a surprise for everyone.
Honestly, Becky, what kind of reaction did you expect?
the definition of a strip tease lmao
Dina: Sacrifice yourself at the altar of Science!!
Becky: But we Christians do not make human sacrifices!
Dina: That’s what they want you to believe.
“You will see one upper arm, maybe also the other one if the first one doesn’t do it!”
Well, so much for science. By revealing to your subject the results you were expecting, you have now empowered the subject to give a false response to either 1) mess with your research or 2) achieve their own ends.
And for that matter, how was Becky going to determine either the presence of horniness or the level of said horniness in Dina?? It’s not like there is an involuntary, easily-detectable way of observing horniness on a clothed female.
First Becky is worried about Dina not finding her attractive, then she isn’t happy because Dina shows enthusiasm to seeing her naked. Becky, honey, is there a way to win with you.
Is the reality that you actually want a Christian lesbian like you, overcome with lust to the point of absurdity but unable to consummate until marriage like Joyce once was a straight version of and… uh. Right. You had a massive one sided crush on her. For years. Which may or may not still be there.
Maybe another reason she’s being bad about the Joyce being an atheist thing after all, is that perhaps still lingering crush. Like the current view is that Joyce is straight (though I also like the theory she’s bi/into Dorothy and just not into Becky at all) but it’s another canon ball into her fantasy of romance I guess. Her past Christian love fantasy also isn’t even a Christian anymore.
Like it’s just a theory and definitely not the only reason if there’s a shred of truth to it but like, idk, before the time skip we had Sarah bring up Becky’s lingering feelings for Joyce. And while it would also be valid for the story just to not go there for relationship drama: Willis is free to change his mind and in such a long running story there shall always be something left untouched, especially given said time skip: I do wonder.
That’s actually part of why I feel Becky was so hurt by Joyce’s conversion to atheism. Becky most definitely still has unrequited feelings for Joyce, and I suspect that part of her is still desperately hoping against hope that SOMEHOW, Joyce will magically realize that Becky is the one for her and the two of them can be happy Christian lesbians together. With Joyce no longer Christian, that’s a further major blow to Becky’s dream, and I think the realization is sinking in that she and Joyce are inexorably drifting apart down different paths in life.
For what it’s worth, I also believe that Becky genuinely does love/have deep affection for Dina, but part of her will always look wistfully at Joyce and mourn for what might have been.
I think another aspect is that she’s got very contradictory urges set up within her own mind. I don’t think there is a way to win for her (I say for and not with, because this conflict is not just external, both of these things are making her unhappy) until she figures out that she’s in a self-defeating situation and needs to make some hard choices that she’s so far been kicking down the road.
Kicking down the road is the best descriptor of Becky I’ve seen, makes sense considering how chaotic her life has been
Omg look how excited she is
This has GOT to become a T-shirt !!
“Get Naked For Science” in large extruded letters, with the heads and arms of Dina, Becky and Professor Brock, smiling and waving in 1930s “rubber hose”-style artwork; or a 1950s retro-futuristic Populuxe motif.
I’ll buy the first two off the printer.
The instructions on the tag say “do not irony”.
Was just scanning the comment and saw Name, Name, and Brock, picturing Brock from Pokemon, and it felt random because what’s he got to do with science but was pretty in character, I could definitely see him using that as a ploy some time.
Anyway, this is random and almost completely irrelevant now I know that’s not who you meant, but I felt like sharing.
“Get naked for Science” is one of the best titles. Fullstop! 😛
I can’t understand if Becky is just very shy or if she’s unable to see herself as attractive.
I think Becky is ping ponging between different expectations that keep getting destroyed by Dina being genuinely chill about sex, and even excited to satisfy her girlfriend, but not to the point where she loses self control. Kind of wrecks the specific experience Becky expects and maybe even wants from Dina.
Also the ping-ponging between simultaneously wanting to do the sexytimes (for obvious reasons) and feeling bad for/wanting to not actually do the sexytimes (due to religious reasons).
Religious is pretty much it. It’s funny that some commenters keep pushing away from religious trauma even though that’s literally a massive part Becky’s backstory. It ain’t just Joyce that’s struggling with it.
Nah it’s just Becky’s moral failings. Shes being so unfair to poor Dina, if she could choose her god didn’t hate her for the crime of existing, then why can’t she just drop all that other pesky trauma that’s been systematically drilled into her since the age of birth
I wouldn’t call all her morals the result of trauma, many of them are probably the result of normal morality absorbtion. Morality is a subset of conditioning. Every moral you’ve ever had is the result of conditioning, intentional conditioning or not, by yourself, by others around you, or by your non-human environment.
Becky is trying to figure out which of her moral rules she wants to keep and which she wants to do away with, and that is hard enough for people without a god, for those with a god it is that much harder.
I’m just making fun of the people acting like it’s Becky’s fault she still has religious sexual hangups while getting past the more hateful parts of the doctrine. People acting like it’s a “moral failing” that she’s too scared to fuck Dina but also feels insecure about whether Dina’s attracted to her
Yea, I feel so bad for her. Despite my issues with some of her actions it sucks that she has all these issues on top of her normal stuff
It’s something else watching Becky struggle with how perfect Dina is for her in writing(doesn’t desire sex thus making sex before marriage easy, but is cool with sex so if Becky wanted to she could go there anyway) but cause of Becky’s religious hang ups, she’s stuck in this place of uncertainty.
This could all easily be resolved with sexy times still happening but I’m sensing a conversation around Becky’s insecurities with Dina, at least I’m hoping for one. With all these stops and starts I think Becky needs to unpack some feelings before she can even think about sexytimes(regardless of sex itself happening).
I now demand “Get Naked for Science” merch
Dina, secret noodist.
H@z th1rs+ 4 n00dz
Is that way I can ask for someone take off their clothes?
*Taking notes*
And Becky runs into the fundamental issue of being a bluffy bluffing bluffer, namely that at some point you’re going to get your bluff called out and then there’s no good way forward.
Love the phrasing of “My Becky”, tbh. It’s, uh. It’s just nifty, is all.
Its so sweet, my clothes would be flying off so fast they’d catch fire from the air-fabric friction.
I feel there was a character shift towards puritanism in Becky. Possibly even a retcon. I mean, she got expelled for making out with a roommate initially. That was off-page, of course.
… I’m not sure I understand how “Becky has kissed fully-clothed women before” is supposed to contradict “Becky has Hang-Ups about nudity”.
It’s not entirely out of nowhere. She said she felt “kinda naked” after Sal took back the jacket she borrowed, leaving her in a cropped tank top. That was way back in the “crash with Joyce on the down-low” days.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/foresight/
It was shown in flashback. There’s no reason to think it went beyond clothed kissing – which she has also done with Dina.
She’s one seriously repressed fresher then.
Take it off! For Science!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCvRT2sy5FE
I like how genuinely enthusiastic Dina is about this.
The hat.
Take it off.
It’s only fair to reciprocate.
Huh. So now we know that when Dina explained to Joe that her methods would ruin him, we know she was 100% right. For real though, I am so here for this. I hope Becky doesn’t have a breakdown because that would be sad, but I do hope she finally gets around to confronting some things she’s been repressing with jokes. She’s going to have to learn how to do that if she wants to make progress and really enjoy the freedom she fought so hard to gain from her family and church.
“my becky” hotter than anything else ever, and also very sweet and cute and good <3
Dino Goddess demands Nudes!
Nick Roche getting to draw for a new Transformers cartoon where Elita One gets to be a main character is the feel good story I was not expecting today.
Ah jeez. I hope Becky doesn’t freak out too bad after these two bone. Which they’re gonna start doing in about fifteen seconds at this rate.
I really love Dina. I especially love that lately she’s been smiling like :]
Me too! She’s so cute
Remember, “any experiment that leaves a crater is a success.”
Weird, the iPad works, while the iPhone puts my comments in moderation mode.
*(Doom will remember this.)*