I’m half-convinced that only having Standard Time when it means it’ll be dark by six is a deliberate attempt to keep people from realizing how much Daylight Time actually sucks in general. I’m in favor of just letting times be what they are, dammit
Really, though, I just hate the change itself more than anything. I have to take my anti-depression meds at the same time every night before bed, and when the same time isn’t the same time it usually fucks with me for at least a week, often two. Fall back used to be okay-ish before I started needing meds, but now it’s hell too.
Over the past few years I’ve had to arrange ever more Internet videoconferences with people in Eastern Australia, California, Kansas, the Uk, and France, and just sorting out what everyone means by the times they say is getting to be quite a pain.
I’m moving towards the position that everyone ought to set their clocks and arrange their rendezvoux in UTC. I will learn to live with rising at 20:00 and going to bed at 12:00.
And for a next step, would somebody please remove the clocks from my kitchen stove and the dashboard of my car?
I’m completely on board with everyone getting used to UTC. Call it common time if we have to. I used to live along the IL border with IN. Half of the year the IN city we had Dr appts in was the same time as us (they didn’t change) the rest of the year we had to do the math.
My great uncle was born in 1903 and was a proud union maintenance of the way railroad man. He kept a political cartoon of kids waiting at the bus stop in Spring after the time change… wearing miners’ lighted helmets. He firmly believed that DST was only invoked to allow white collar executives to play tennis after work.
Now see, if it were up to me, we’d go to bed an hour later each night and wake up an hour later the next morning. Clif Standard Time. Because our aging process is keyed to our wake sleep cycle we’d end up living an average of about 4% longer with no medical breakthroughs required.
Medication wouldn’t be a problem because the dosage would be calibrated for a 25 hour day. Since sunrise and sunset would cycle through the day anyway, we could all switch to GMT/UMT worldwide without unfairly impacting any particular location.
Weren’t there some experiments back in the 80s which indicated that humans naturally have a 25-26 hour bodyclock anyway? Your proposal sounds like something I could get behind. Especially the “whole world using GMT” part. On the other hand, simply eliminating sleep altogether also seems like a good idea to me.
I remember that one being popular to hate at the time, but honestly I loved that sleep angle. Heh, remember when Doctor Who was actually half-decent at doing episodes about capitalism?
If you are talking about the studies I think you are talking about, the natural human bodyclock was found to average at 24 hr 20-something min IIRC
That said, if you have a job with very flexible hours, I’ve heard favorable things about the 28 hour day, spend 19/20 hours awake and 9/8 hours asleep, and it syncs up perfectly with the weeks (6 28 hour days is the same as 7 24 hour days)
@Clif you have my vote in the next elections for world president.
(there was a good segment on DST in a recent 99% invisible. turns out it’s been tried many times, many different ways, in a bunch of places, and the lesson is probably that whatever you do, you can’t make everyone happy.)
I was thinking more along the lines of Supreme Dictator and Lord High Pubah, Rightful Ruler of the Asmovian Spaces and All Lesser Orbs Therein, but hey, World President is good too.
i will entertain President and First Tiger but beyond that, i balk.
yeah sorry i meant to link to it, it’s a podcast that goes into why things are designed the way they are, that i think is pretty good, here’s the ep i was thinking about https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/matters-of-time/
I am 0 hours away from Greenwich England. I’m also 500 miles north of it. I am very much in favour of getting rid of changing the clocks, as long as Scotland gets to stay on British Summer Time all year, rather than GMT, and it stops being dark at four in the afternoon.
Same issue with Boston, across the pond. We belong in Atlantic Time, not EST with NYC.
Its 4pm darkness here too.
A lot of people bongo ( and public health issues with spring ahead) . but w/ out DST it would be Daylight at 4am in the summer or earlier! ) .
Best solution is permanent Jump, if you far enough east or North a meridian.
Come to think of it, skipping sleep lead directly to the appearance of ghost/hallucination Mike because Amber’s got severe mental issues and considering the title of this chapter, he might make a return.
[Intro]
When I was a young boy, my father
Took me into the city to see a marching band
He said, “Son, when you grow up would you be
The savior of the broken, the beaten and the damned?”
He said, “Will you defeat them? Your demons
And all the non-believers, the plans that they have made?
Because one day, I’ll leave you a phantom
To lead you in the summer to join the black parade”
[Refrain]
When I was a young boy, my father
Took me into the city to see a marching band
He said, “Son, when you grow up would you be
The savior of the broken, the beaten and the damned?”
[Verse 1]
Sometimes I get the feeling she’s watching over me
And other times I feel like I should go
And through it all, the rise and fall, the bodies in the streets
And when you’re gone, we want you all to know
[Chorus]
We’ll carry on, we’ll carry on
And though you’re dead and gone, believe me
Your memory will carry on, we’ll carry on
And in my heart, I can’t contain it
The anthem won’t explain it
[Verse 2]
A world that sends you reeling from decimated dreams
Your misery and hate will kill us all
So paint it black and take it back, let’s shout it loud and clear
Defiant to the end we hear the call
[Chorus]
To carry on, we’ll carry on
And though you’re dead and gone, believe me
Your memory will carry on, we’ll carry on
And though you’re broken and defeated
Your weary widow marches
[Post-Chorus]
On and on, we carry through the fears (Oh, oh, oh)
Disappointed faces of your peers (Oh, oh, oh)
Take a look at me ’cause I could not care at all
[Bridge]
Do or die, you’ll never make me
Because the world will never take my heart
Go and try, you’ll never break me
We want it all, we wanna play this part
I won’t explain or say I’m sorry
I’m unashamed, I’m gonna show my scars
Give a cheer for all the broken
Listen here, because it’s who we are
I’m just a man, I’m not a hero
Just a boy who had to sing this song
I’m just a man, I’m not a hero
I don’t care
[Chorus]
We’ll carry on, we’ll carry on
And though you’re dead and gone, believe me
Your memory will carry on, we’ll carry on
And though you’re broken and defeated
Your weary widow marches on
[Outro]
Do or die, you’ll never make me
Because the world will never take my heart
Go and try, you’ll never break me
We want it all, we wanna play this part (We’ll carry on)
Do or die, you’ll never make me (We’ll carry on)
Because the world will never take my heart (We’ll carry on)
Go and try, you’ll never break me (We’ll carry)
We want it all, we wanna play this part (We’ll carry on)
haha yeah it’s like, ooooh which lyrics will turn out to be relevant?
“Will you defeat them? Your demons and all the non-believers”
> Will Amber manage to defeat the final boss in the, whatever it is she’s playing, on absolutely no sleep??
“And though you’re dead and gone, believe me your memory will carry on”
> RIP Mike. Our moms will never forget you.
“Disappointed faces of your peers”
> more Dorothy and Sarah being disappointed at Joyce!
The last time there was a new slate of gravatars was several months ago, though – and it is quite possible indeed that even after a grav changeover the new code applied to your email coincidentally still gives the same grav.
if you sleep several hours every day and then you still have problems, have you tried not sleeping at all for days on end, maybe that’ll help, idk don’t knock it till you try it
I think Jacob, of all the cast, would look best in the purple tights. But Joe could pull off the look, I guess. I’m hoping not to meet the Ghost Who Walkertons.
Oh, I loved fucking up my sleep due to depression in college. Bonus for when I was taking a class that taught the specific damages of that while it was going strong.
Yeah, while I don’t use it for depression’s sake, I actually enjoy those nights when I just incidentally don’t get any sleep.
The day directly afterwards every time, where I was running on nothing but caffeine and cheesy snacks, it was like this very enjoyable in a weird sort of way.
It was able to do art and surf the web and experience the kinds of things like that I do to relax in this whole new way, and it was an almost psychedelic and almost “spiritual” kind of experience where I was even crying tears of joy at one point, it was just so happy and overwhelming like that.
Oh, once I didn’t sleep for like a couple days, and I was definitely going through it, but that last day was so good. I was walking outside and started tearing up about how much I loved trees.
Apparently a lack of one night’s sleep puts your mental factulties at a level if slightly tipsy – not that you get high per se, but it takes the edge off. No wonder some shaman rituals involve sleeplessness in fasting, I guess – two nights in I actually start hallucinate slightly, little movements and figures in my peripheral vision, etc.
Unfortunately, they do. When perfectly innocent and good things become associated with bad people, we can’t enjoy the things any more without inadvertently supporting the bad people who ruined it.
Hey, I’m a big fan of staying up fuck-off late. I just know an incredible asshole who also was a fan of people staying up fuck-off late, on his terms. They were less likely to figure out his gaslight-y abusive bullshit before they got entrenched if they were sleeping at regular, reasonable hours.
My personal ‘record’ in college was 5 days of mostly no sleep. I don’t remember some of it, but the parts I do convinced me that I should not repeat. It was a diet of pop (caffine) and the 4 vending food groups: Salty, chewy, crunchy, and sweet. it was over spring break, I had no money, a campus vending account.
Fun side note…If you don’t fall over at the computer, almost no one notices when you fall asleep at one..
people taking naps in random places that are functionally indistinguishable from collapsing from exhaustion? and no one bats an eyelid? yeah that sounds like college
I think the longest I went without sleep was about 38 or 39 hours in college once. Near the end of it I felt similar to being drunk. I still don’t remember how I got from my friend’s dorm to my dorm before I finally went to sleep that day.
… So, I’m just going to ignore the incredibly disturbing things Amber is saying and focus on
A: Dina looking out for Amber, yay, good, she needs this,
B: That mismatched sleeves dinosaur hoodie is AMAZING, and if I wore outerwear all that often I would want one.
i assume you mean you don’t go outdoors a lot? i still wear a hoodie indoors, like all the time. i’m basically never seen without a hoodie i guess. unless it’s very very warm
Oh, both. I don’t go out a lot (especially since the Plague,) but even when I’m out and about in reasonably cold weather, I have a tendency to go for the lightest possible coat I think necessary and frequently have them off the minute I’m indoors. I overheat REALLY easily, so it’s easier to dress light.
**sigh**
No one sang with me yesterday. Therefore, I must sing alone.
Ahem…
“ROBOT ROLL CALL!
Cambot!
Gypsy!
Tom Servo!
CROW!
If you’re wondering how he eats and breathes
and other science facts
La la la
Then repeat to yourself
‘it’s just a show
and I should really just relax’
For Mystery Science Theater 3000!”
Is not wanting to sleep a “I don’t want to be alone with my thoughts so I can let my anxiety induced thoughts take over” thing? Because Amber is just avoiding sleep and other people anyway, besides I’m pretty sure people are a lot less depressed when they’re not tired all the time.
I mean a big sign of depression is often insomnia. It’s also common to act in ways that actively further your depression creating an even deeper depression. That’s just speaking from experience. Amber has routinely displayed very classic signs and needs professional help she’s not likely to get because she’s not actively seeking it and her family isn’t aware of the need, nor or adequate resources freely available.
“Cat-like typing detected”
I would have sworn we used this phrase in the late 80s for word processing & BBS (no internet yet), but I’m no longer pawsitive. Apparently PawSense (that both detects and tries to spook the cat away) wasn’t released until the 90s.
Y’know it wasn’t until I started living with a cat that I realized I had a lot of catlike traits.
I walk around on the balls of my feet. I have a habit of running from room to room. I prefer to be alone all the time but when I wanna be around people I’m incredibly needy.
are you a cat? checklist:
– you sleep a lot
– you walk on tiptoe
– you get sudden fits of craziness
– cucumbers are evil
– you’re fundamentally a loner
– you like being petted though
– you enjoy the clicking sound and bright light and warmth of this weird object, sometimes outlandish comments are published on the internet as a result, oh well
– you only get horny a couple times a year
not lately. or essentially ever? i’m sure it’s amazing. don’t know about head petting but i’ve been given massages before and i basically can not enjoy them, i’m just too anxious generally and about intimacy in particular. i just worry non-stop about whether the other person is enjoying it, like surely not, right, they’re just being nice, or maybe they will enjoy it to the extent that I enjoy it, because that’s what you hope for, right, so now it’s on me to make this a good experience for them by having a good time myself except that’s not happening cause i can’t relax, also i will spend the entire time calculating when the right time to tell them to stop is, like not too soon or it’s insulting, not too late or they will be tired and think i’m greedy or whatever, haha neuroses, yay, ok i’m very obviously not a cat.
Exactly. If you were a cat you’d just let them know when it’s time to stop by turning around and biting them with no warning at all. All the while still purring them.
And they’d still love you for it.
As someone who can sleep 16 hours uninterrupted on accident, I can assure you that you are not missing anything. If anything, ppl like me are missing out on waking hours that you get! Let’s trade situations, hm? 😛
My record is 16 and a half uninterrupted hours of sleep, and 24 interrupted (woke up but didn’t get up, just rolled over and went immediately back to sleep).
Honestly for depression both under and overdoing things are signs. It isn’t unknown for a depressed person to both oversleep regularly every week and also have difficulties sleeping at all regularly every week on different days. It isn’t which is happening that really matters for identifying it so much as that depressed people fall into irregular patterns due to difficulties caring for themselves and lack of energy and poor coping mechanisms.
My personal big issue is a desire to not have my personality medicated away like happened to several of my friends. That and as a full atheist most available people want to talk about spirituality and other imaginary things.
If someone’s personality is “medicated away”, they’re likely being overdosed. I had a shady psychiatrist for a while, and my behavior scared the living shit out of a few of my family members, who made sure I stepped down to a saner amount of meds.
When I am depressed I actively avoid sleeping until I’m so tired it’s not an option to be awake anymore. The problem is that with nothing else to distract it – TV, the endless scroll of Twitter, or whatever the internet provides – my brain goes, ‘Oh great, I’ve got your attention! Do you remember how shitty your life is? Just in case let’s go it all in detail. Plus remember when you were 12 and you did that thing that PROBABLY RUINED YOUR LIFE FOREVER but you can’t change it now? Let’s go over that a couple of hundred times.’ Until I have an anxiety attack and get my phone to self-soothe with twitter.
100%, when I’m having a really bad depression episode I do whatever I can to avoid my own thoughts. Not only will I stay up watching youtube until I’m to tired to think, but I’ll also actively avoid getting any REM sleep because I can’t handle my dreams. (for the record I have been officially diagnosed with depression and anxiety by a professional just so you know I’m not pulling this out of my ass)
Sometimes I get the feeling some of arguments aren’t about the fictional actions of a fictional character named Joyce Brown. What Joyce is written doing or saying doesn’t threaten the readers’ self-worth or past life choices.
That’s funny, ’cause I’ve been getting the feeling some of the arguments aren’t about the fictional actions of a fictional character named Joyce Brown either, but that manifests for me as “how do you read a character drama without caring about why characters do things” and “she didn’t actually call Becky an idiot, ya palookas.”
I’m glad we’ve moved onto a character no one ever got mad at when her catastrophic trauma drove her to act in a way that came at the inconvenience of other people.
I love staying awake late at night. I’m basically nocturnal. I’ve pulled many an all nighter unintentionally just getting shit done. The problem is all those DAYTIME PEOPLE trying to make me feel bad for my nocturnal lifestyle. I’M NOT SLEEPING IN! YOU’RE WAKING UP TOO EARLY!
I used to work night shifts for a paper route in highschool and discovered the hardest part of staying up that late is that nothing is really going on.
Hell yeah, night owls! Seriously, nothing is ever happening during the day because everyone is busy busting their asses for pennies. At night, I get plenty of clients and can play cool video games with all the people I want.
Yeah, I usually stay up very late. I probably should get more sleep, but I have too much that I want to get done, and fortunately my job starts at 1 p.m.
Dina. Honey. What in evolution’s name are you wearing?
Yes, I’ve seen the link Willis posted. The fact it actually exists isn’t a justification. And the fact it has dinosaur spikes only barely helps.
Maybe if you weren’t wearing the hat, so the color clash wouldn’t be as obvious? Though that is of course unthinkable.
Anyway, I was happily unaware until now that such hideous color mixes were actually marketed, as opposed to just being what happens when you let kids choose their own clothes. (I’m all in favor of letting kids choose their own clothes. I just also acknowledge that kids generally have absolutely horrible taste. Citation: was a kid once.)
From pigment studies people have managed to deduce the colours of Microraptor, Sinosaurypteryx, Anchiornis, Borealopelta, Psittacosaurus and Archaeopteryx
From pigment studies of what? Not fossils as such. Rock that has been molded by where persistent organic mater used to be has very few surviving pigments. Now there were a few dinosaurs with feathers where a few feathers were preserved in volcanic ash, in China I think, and they were able to look at the melanosomes, is that right? Yes, melanosomes under a scanning microscope, but melanosomes only contribute dull colors. The bright or even garish colors come from carotenoids and porphyrins and such like and there isn’t enough material to help with those. So nobody knows.
If you have better information, could I ask for a link or two to help me out?
so this may not be the contribution that you hoped, but i found this hour-long talk pretty riveting, it goes into a detailed explanation of a different technique for detecting melanin in fossils in a synchrotron based on chemical signatures of trace amounts of organic matter. i love how the researcher just consistently and with a completely straight face uses the term “wiggly line” instead of saying curve, as though this makes his talk more accessible, when it’s actually fairly technical ^^
this question in the follow-up Q&A compares this method and the sort of scanning electron microscope findings that you mentioned Clif.
that said, do i have an answer regarding the sort of brighter but less likely to be preserved pigments? …no.
I will say though, that while some of the coloration is derived from inferred melanin type and density, structural coloration has also been observed in fossil feathers and insect scales, meaning coloration produced by the 3D microscopic structures, and i guess this includes brighter colours? Apparently, “peacock tail feathers are pigmented brown, but their microscopic structure makes them also reflect blue, turquoise, and green light, and they are often iridescent.”
ok i’m brain-drained now but i thought i’d share this much anyway =)
One of the things I miss about college is the ability to stay up all night just for the hell of it and function the next day, as well as the ability to sleep until like 1 on the weekends. Being an adult and getting up by 8 at the latest every day kinda sucks.
Yeah! You can rise at 0530 every morning, hit the beach, and then when bleary-eyed Millennials emerge from their beds at 10:30 to mock the Genex for having left for work at 0800, smugly tell them that they have missed the best part of the day.
(Then, of course, you eat your dinner at 18:30, and go to bed at nine. But at least you’re asleep while the youngsters are laughing at you.)
I’ve skkiped emo phase, so I didn’t get the reference. I got suprised, because I’ve found some band text when I was using Google to navigate throught here. I guess it’s a new band to listen, huh?
I’m extremely glad that the new Final Fantasy has a scene where the protagonist listens to some anime girl ramble about darkness so he says ‘bullshit’ and then turns his Limp Bizkit playlist on so he can power walk away.
It was the moment that crystalized that nu-metal is back and I can stop pretending I don’t love it so much.
Yes!
Fantano talked up Bring Me The Horizon a little while ago, and i was like, what the hell, this genre is still a thing?! also i had entirely forgot how hard it slapped?
and then i was talking music with these 18-year old lads and they were like “psh BMTH is just trashy fake metal” and i was like, wow, that also didn’t change, ok
anyway, link to some recent nu-metal thing you enjoyed, that’s right i want recs, i want you to wreck me with your recs
oh i wasn’t dissing, i think Chop Suey is an absolute classic. they put it on at the climbing gym last i went and i just had to sing along with the chorus, i was hanging on by two digits and a toe but i didn’t have the option not to, it was epic
Symp or sympa (not to be confused with sempa) is to be in harmony with, leading to words like sympathy and symphony. Theties was a sea goddess, personification of the sea, mother of Achilles. SempaTheties is therefor brute expressing a desire that everyone who has lost a cute sweater should all live in harmony with the sea.
Not saying that they’re palette swapped, just something is making her look different. It’s more her expression, I think, something about it just makes me think “Dorothy”.
I’m sorry for Amber. She’s sinking deeper and deeper into her world of madness. Probably even more now than when she spent nights as AmaziGirl. Dina is right to be worried.
I really hope Dina asks someone else about this so that she can get some proper information before trying to help Amber. Cause Amber needs some help, but she’s not going to give Dina a head start.
This is actually pretty good progress for Dina. She’s been really accepting of Amber’s statements on her grievous mental state (which is probably compounded by how Amber being Like That led to her saving Becky’s life), but this is the first time she’s ever questioned her.
I just want to say I really appreciate Willis’s attention to detail on that third panel there, with Dina’s ballooning as she puts on the hoodie. It’d would’ve been easier to just give her normal hair and no-one would notice, but Willis goes the extra mile.
In the sense that it may well have been the sleep deprivation that put Amazi-girl off her game enough for her not to be able to handle Blaine and Ross.
Yeah, I was under the impression that brain!Mike was just the equivalent of Amber’s brain shouting at her and waving the very important report it really really reaaalllly needs her to read.
heh she forgets the short term psychotic break one gets on about day 4 where you hallucinate …. by day 6 after wandering around town the local PD is taking you into the er where you are given a rather shot of an opiate so you can pass out and 48 hours later on friday you can ask mom what happened because you don’t much remember anything past Tuesday night
why yes im personally acquainted with chronic insominia ……
never stayed up long enough for hallucinations, but i do know that after 72 hours i lose all ability to communicate in spoken or written words. right around hour 100 i can no longer solve math problems and am at that point, by several accounts “a perfect angel”.
Ah, this brings me back to the height of my depression/mental illness. Sometimes in high school, I would stay up really late because I couldn’t bear to go to sleep and have the next day come even sooner
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idk I get super depressed staying awake now there’s zero daylight by the time work is overTHANKS SHITTY FALL BACK TO STANDARD TIME
also DAAAAAAANG to panel 1!
I’m half-convinced that only having Standard Time when it means it’ll be dark by six is a deliberate attempt to keep people from realizing how much Daylight Time actually sucks in general. I’m in favor of just letting times be what they are, dammit
Really, though, I just hate the change itself more than anything. I have to take my anti-depression meds at the same time every night before bed, and when the same time isn’t the same time it usually fucks with me for at least a week, often two. Fall back used to be okay-ish before I started needing meds, but now it’s hell too.
Seriously. If you are x Time Zones away from Greenwich, England, then your CLOCKS should always be x hours away from GMT!
Over the past few years I’ve had to arrange ever more Internet videoconferences with people in Eastern Australia, California, Kansas, the Uk, and France, and just sorting out what everyone means by the times they say is getting to be quite a pain.
I’m moving towards the position that everyone ought to set their clocks and arrange their rendezvoux in UTC. I will learn to live with rising at 20:00 and going to bed at 12:00.
And for a next step, would somebody please remove the clocks from my kitchen stove and the dashboard of my car?
I’m completely on board with everyone getting used to UTC. Call it common time if we have to. I used to live along the IL border with IN. Half of the year the IN city we had Dr appts in was the same time as us (they didn’t change) the rest of the year we had to do the math.
My great uncle was born in 1903 and was a proud union maintenance of the way railroad man. He kept a political cartoon of kids waiting at the bus stop in Spring after the time change… wearing miners’ lighted helmets. He firmly believed that DST was only invoked to allow white collar executives to play tennis after work.
Now see, if it were up to me, we’d go to bed an hour later each night and wake up an hour later the next morning. Clif Standard Time. Because our aging process is keyed to our wake sleep cycle we’d end up living an average of about 4% longer with no medical breakthroughs required.
Medication wouldn’t be a problem because the dosage would be calibrated for a 25 hour day. Since sunrise and sunset would cycle through the day anyway, we could all switch to GMT/UMT worldwide without unfairly impacting any particular location.
Weren’t there some experiments back in the 80s which indicated that humans naturally have a 25-26 hour bodyclock anyway? Your proposal sounds like something I could get behind. Especially the “whole world using GMT” part. On the other hand, simply eliminating sleep altogether also seems like a good idea to me.
Eliminating sleep altogether? Reminds me of a webcomic, I think it was called “Power Nap”.
There is also a Doctor Who episode along these lines called Sleep No More.
I remember that one being popular to hate at the time, but honestly I loved that sleep angle. Heh, remember when Doctor Who was actually half-decent at doing episodes about capitalism?
At some point its ability to do so went… Kerblam.
Yep. That was one weird comic!
I remember that, and I choose to make it the reason why I always want to sleep later and stay up later.
If you are talking about the studies I think you are talking about, the natural human bodyclock was found to average at 24 hr 20-something min IIRC
That said, if you have a job with very flexible hours, I’ve heard favorable things about the 28 hour day, spend 19/20 hours awake and 9/8 hours asleep, and it syncs up perfectly with the weeks (6 28 hour days is the same as 7 24 hour days)
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@Clif you have my vote in the next elections for world president.
(there was a good segment on DST in a recent 99% invisible. turns out it’s been tried many times, many different ways, in a bunch of places, and the lesson is probably that whatever you do, you can’t make everyone happy.)
I was thinking more along the lines of Supreme Dictator and Lord High Pubah, Rightful Ruler of the Asmovian Spaces and All Lesser Orbs Therein, but hey, World President is good too.
But tell me more about 99% invisible.
i will entertain President and First Tiger but beyond that, i balk.
yeah sorry i meant to link to it, it’s a podcast that goes into why things are designed the way they are, that i think is pretty good, here’s the ep i was thinking about
https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/matters-of-time/
Thanks, milu!
I am 0 hours away from Greenwich England. I’m also 500 miles north of it. I am very much in favour of getting rid of changing the clocks, as long as Scotland gets to stay on British Summer Time all year, rather than GMT, and it stops being dark at four in the afternoon.
By “hours” I mean “time zones”, obvs.
Same issue with Boston, across the pond. We belong in Atlantic Time, not EST with NYC.
Its 4pm darkness here too.
A lot of people bongo ( and public health issues with spring ahead) . but w/ out DST it would be Daylight at 4am in the summer or earlier! ) .
Best solution is permanent Jump, if you far enough east or North a meridian.
Been there, Amber.
Skipping sleep didn’t really payoff the last time Amber tried it but I’m sure this time it will work!
Come to think of it, skipping sleep lead directly to the appearance of ghost/hallucination Mike because Amber’s got severe mental issues and considering the title of this chapter, he might make a return.
Honestly, I think seeing ANY sleep-deprivation induced trip in this arc would be really cool!
How do we know this scene isn’t one?
Are you saying that Willis doesn’t get enough sleep?
Second Becky. Still no Jacob/Lucy/Booster.
Wasn’t that when she tried to starve Amazi-Girl out?
Dina’s sweater is so cute!
True, but that is greatly facilitated by having Dina in it.
I want one
Ah, yes … that IS Dina in the sweater. As another owner of that sweater has exclaimed on many occasions: “I can’t see without my glasses!”
I’ll leave you a Phantom
To lead you in the summer
TO JOIN THE BLACK PARADE
[Intro]
When I was a young boy, my father
Took me into the city to see a marching band
He said, “Son, when you grow up would you be
The savior of the broken, the beaten and the damned?”
He said, “Will you defeat them? Your demons
And all the non-believers, the plans that they have made?
Because one day, I’ll leave you a phantom
To lead you in the summer to join the black parade”
[Refrain]
When I was a young boy, my father
Took me into the city to see a marching band
He said, “Son, when you grow up would you be
The savior of the broken, the beaten and the damned?”
[Verse 1]
Sometimes I get the feeling she’s watching over me
And other times I feel like I should go
And through it all, the rise and fall, the bodies in the streets
And when you’re gone, we want you all to know
[Chorus]
We’ll carry on, we’ll carry on
And though you’re dead and gone, believe me
Your memory will carry on, we’ll carry on
And in my heart, I can’t contain it
The anthem won’t explain it
[Verse 2]
A world that sends you reeling from decimated dreams
Your misery and hate will kill us all
So paint it black and take it back, let’s shout it loud and clear
Defiant to the end we hear the call
[Chorus]
To carry on, we’ll carry on
And though you’re dead and gone, believe me
Your memory will carry on, we’ll carry on
And though you’re broken and defeated
Your weary widow marches
[Post-Chorus]
On and on, we carry through the fears (Oh, oh, oh)
Disappointed faces of your peers (Oh, oh, oh)
Take a look at me ’cause I could not care at all
[Bridge]
Do or die, you’ll never make me
Because the world will never take my heart
Go and try, you’ll never break me
We want it all, we wanna play this part
I won’t explain or say I’m sorry
I’m unashamed, I’m gonna show my scars
Give a cheer for all the broken
Listen here, because it’s who we are
I’m just a man, I’m not a hero
Just a boy who had to sing this song
I’m just a man, I’m not a hero
I don’t care
[Chorus]
We’ll carry on, we’ll carry on
And though you’re dead and gone, believe me
Your memory will carry on, we’ll carry on
And though you’re broken and defeated
Your weary widow marches on
[Outro]
Do or die, you’ll never make me
Because the world will never take my heart
Go and try, you’ll never break me
We want it all, we wanna play this part (We’ll carry on)
Do or die, you’ll never make me (We’ll carry on)
Because the world will never take my heart (We’ll carry on)
Go and try, you’ll never break me (We’ll carry)
We want it all, we wanna play this part (We’ll carry on)
Seriously, this has been my favorite song for years now! 🤩
Something tells me the lyrics may be hinting at pretty major plot details in this arc, which just makes me love the song even more!!!
haha yeah it’s like, ooooh which lyrics will turn out to be relevant?
“Will you defeat them? Your demons and all the non-believers”
> Will Amber manage to defeat the final boss in the, whatever it is she’s playing, on absolutely no sleep??
“And though you’re dead and gone, believe me your memory will carry on”
> RIP Mike. Our moms will never forget you.
“Disappointed faces of your peers”
> more Dorothy and Sarah being disappointed at Joyce!
Oh no. That can’t be good.
OH COME ON. A THIRD WALKY IN A ROW?
Gravitar roulette is taunting me now.
That is impressive. And INCREDIBLY unlikely.
The Walkening has begun!
Yeah, uh,….no I don’t want Malaya.
I don’t mind Carla, but I really liked being Ruth.
I haven’t commented since they changed so let’s see ….
This is more accurate than my former tbh
What did it used to be? Since it changes the comment avatars retroactively, we can’t look back to check.
It was a cute Lucy smiling one. A nervous lesbian is just a little more me lol
I don’t think avatar roulette is working. Otherwise I would not still have blojob cat. For several months.
The last time there was a new slate of gravatars was several months ago, though – and it is quite possible indeed that even after a grav changeover the new code applied to your email coincidentally still gives the same grav.
I was stuck with Galasso for over a year.
Time to spin the Wheel of Fish…
Nah, it’s fine. Sleep is for the weak.
if you sleep several hours every day and then you still have problems, have you tried not sleeping at all for days on end, maybe that’ll help, idk don’t knock it till you try it
[reads chapter title]
Hopefully there won’t be any masked figures lurking in the shadows…
A tame wolf would be cute, though.
I think Jacob, of all the cast, would look best in the purple tights. But Joe could pull off the look, I guess. I’m hoping not to meet the Ghost Who Walkertons.
Oh, I loved fucking up my sleep due to depression in college. Bonus for when I was taking a class that taught the specific damages of that while it was going strong.
Also, Dina, my love. <33
Yeah, while I don’t use it for depression’s sake, I actually enjoy those nights when I just incidentally don’t get any sleep.
The day directly afterwards every time, where I was running on nothing but caffeine and cheesy snacks, it was like this very enjoyable in a weird sort of way.
It was able to do art and surf the web and experience the kinds of things like that I do to relax in this whole new way, and it was an almost psychedelic and almost “spiritual” kind of experience where I was even crying tears of joy at one point, it was just so happy and overwhelming like that.
Oh, once I didn’t sleep for like a couple days, and I was definitely going through it, but that last day was so good. I was walking outside and started tearing up about how much I loved trees.
Yeah, right? It’s one helluva drug.
*plays “Deep Jungle Walk” by Astrix on the Hacked Muzak*
That’s like hypermania, isn’t it? It is some sort of self introduced mechanism against depression says my therapist.
Apparently a lack of one night’s sleep puts your mental factulties at a level if slightly tipsy – not that you get high per se, but it takes the edge off. No wonder some shaman rituals involve sleeplessness in fasting, I guess – two nights in I actually start hallucinate slightly, little movements and figures in my peripheral vision, etc.
writing this at 6:30 am my time, btw, because I couldn’t find sleep
Explains why a lot of abusers and cultists try to induce sleep deprivation in their targets too.
Remember though, when YOU’RE in control, there’s benefit to be had from this occasional experience!
DON’T LET BAD PEOPLE TAKE GOOD THINGS AWAY FROM US!
Unfortunately, they do. When perfectly innocent and good things become associated with bad people, we can’t enjoy the things any more without inadvertently supporting the bad people who ruined it.
Seriously, fuck that!
Just why couldn’t it work the other way around?
Because they view us just the very same way, and fear the day we realize that we have just as much power to take what they love away from them.
Did we give up recreational drugs because government projects like MKULTRA and COINTELPRO used them for horrible purposes against us?
NO!
Should we give these bad people any more power and satisfaction?
FUCK NO!!!
Hey, I’m a big fan of staying up fuck-off late. I just know an incredible asshole who also was a fan of people staying up fuck-off late, on his terms. They were less likely to figure out his gaslight-y abusive bullshit before they got entrenched if they were sleeping at regular, reasonable hours.
I do not miss him.
If they WEREN’T sleeping at regular, reasonable hours.
On that note, I’m going to bed.
Pleasing dreams.
My personal ‘record’ in college was 5 days of mostly no sleep. I don’t remember some of it, but the parts I do convinced me that I should not repeat. It was a diet of pop (caffine) and the 4 vending food groups: Salty, chewy, crunchy, and sweet. it was over spring break, I had no money, a campus vending account.
Fun side note…If you don’t fall over at the computer, almost no one notices when you fall asleep at one..
people taking naps in random places that are functionally indistinguishable from collapsing from exhaustion? and no one bats an eyelid? yeah that sounds like college
I think the longest I went without sleep was about 38 or 39 hours in college once. Near the end of it I felt similar to being drunk. I still don’t remember how I got from my friend’s dorm to my dorm before I finally went to sleep that day.
That’s a lie, Amber.
Her life is NOT a lie.
It’s a JOKE.
There’s a difference.
Is it a comedy or a tragedy?
It can definitely be both.
… So, I’m just going to ignore the incredibly disturbing things Amber is saying and focus on
A: Dina looking out for Amber, yay, good, she needs this,
B: That mismatched sleeves dinosaur hoodie is AMAZING, and if I wore outerwear all that often I would want one.
i assume you mean you don’t go outdoors a lot? i still wear a hoodie indoors, like all the time. i’m basically never seen without a hoodie i guess. unless it’s very very warm
Oh, both. I don’t go out a lot (especially since the Plague,) but even when I’m out and about in reasonably cold weather, I have a tendency to go for the lightest possible coat I think necessary and frequently have them off the minute I’m indoors. I overheat REALLY easily, so it’s easier to dress light.
**sigh**
No one sang with me yesterday. Therefore, I must sing alone.
Ahem…
“ROBOT ROLL CALL!
Cambot!
Gypsy!
Tom Servo!
CROW!
If you’re wondering how he eats and breathes
and other science facts
La la la
Then repeat to yourself
‘it’s just a show
and I should really just relax’
For Mystery Science Theater 3000!”
:p
Fine. I’m done now.
i never noticed it before, but the lyrics in the second part would make Dina absolutely cringe
Next time you’ll have to sing the little known third verse.
I was very fond of crow, but Tom Servo motored into my heart.
Is not wanting to sleep a “I don’t want to be alone with my thoughts so I can let my anxiety induced thoughts take over” thing? Because Amber is just avoiding sleep and other people anyway, besides I’m pretty sure people are a lot less depressed when they’re not tired all the time.
I mean a big sign of depression is often insomnia. It’s also common to act in ways that actively further your depression creating an even deeper depression. That’s just speaking from experience. Amber has routinely displayed very classic signs and needs professional help she’s not likely to get because she’s not actively seeking it and her family isn’t aware of the need, nor or adequate resources freely available.
Of course, another big sign of depression is often sleeping too much…
“Sleeping too much”
No such thing. Sleep is the best. If I could I’d sleep 18 hours a day.
Have you checked to see if you’re a cat?
If they were a cat then they couldn’t type or draw because paws, instead of hands with opposable thumbs.
“Cat-like typing detected”
I would have sworn we used this phrase in the late 80s for word processing & BBS (no internet yet), but I’m no longer pawsitive. Apparently PawSense (that both detects and tries to spook the cat away) wasn’t released until the 90s.
Y’know it wasn’t until I started living with a cat that I realized I had a lot of catlike traits.
I walk around on the balls of my feet. I have a habit of running from room to room. I prefer to be alone all the time but when I wanna be around people I’m incredibly needy.
Bruh, it’s like you’re reading my mind or something!
are you a cat? checklist:
– you sleep a lot
– you walk on tiptoe
– you get sudden fits of craziness
– cucumbers are evil
– you’re fundamentally a loner
– you like being petted though
– you enjoy the clicking sound and bright light and warmth of this weird object, sometimes outlandish comments are published on the internet as a result, oh well
– you only get horny a couple times a year
…so close.
Have you recently had your head pet though? It’s…amazing. Like seriously a fantastic sensation. Hard recommend for anyone who hasn’t done it lately.
not lately. or essentially ever? i’m sure it’s amazing. don’t know about head petting but i’ve been given massages before and i basically can not enjoy them, i’m just too anxious generally and about intimacy in particular. i just worry non-stop about whether the other person is enjoying it, like surely not, right, they’re just being nice, or maybe they will enjoy it to the extent that I enjoy it, because that’s what you hope for, right, so now it’s on me to make this a good experience for them by having a good time myself except that’s not happening cause i can’t relax, also i will spend the entire time calculating when the right time to tell them to stop is, like not too soon or it’s insulting, not too late or they will be tired and think i’m greedy or whatever, haha neuroses, yay, ok i’m very obviously not a cat.
Exactly. If you were a cat you’d just let them know when it’s time to stop by turning around and biting them with no warning at all. All the while still purring them.
And they’d still love you for it.
yeah! i’m so jealous of cats for not giving a fuck what anyone thinks. fucking cats. fuckin love em.
As someone who can sleep 16 hours uninterrupted on accident, I can assure you that you are not missing anything. If anything, ppl like me are missing out on waking hours that you get! Let’s trade situations, hm? 😛
My record is 16 and a half uninterrupted hours of sleep, and 24 interrupted (woke up but didn’t get up, just rolled over and went immediately back to sleep).
You could if you were a North American House Hippo.
Honestly for depression both under and overdoing things are signs. It isn’t unknown for a depressed person to both oversleep regularly every week and also have difficulties sleeping at all regularly every week on different days. It isn’t which is happening that really matters for identifying it so much as that depressed people fall into irregular patterns due to difficulties caring for themselves and lack of energy and poor coping mechanisms.
My personal big issue is a desire to not have my personality medicated away like happened to several of my friends. That and as a full atheist most available people want to talk about spirituality and other imaginary things.
If someone’s personality is “medicated away”, they’re likely being overdosed. I had a shady psychiatrist for a while, and my behavior scared the living shit out of a few of my family members, who made sure I stepped down to a saner amount of meds.
When I am depressed I actively avoid sleeping until I’m so tired it’s not an option to be awake anymore. The problem is that with nothing else to distract it – TV, the endless scroll of Twitter, or whatever the internet provides – my brain goes, ‘Oh great, I’ve got your attention! Do you remember how shitty your life is? Just in case let’s go it all in detail. Plus remember when you were 12 and you did that thing that PROBABLY RUINED YOUR LIFE FOREVER but you can’t change it now? Let’s go over that a couple of hundred times.’ Until I have an anxiety attack and get my phone to self-soothe with twitter.
100%, when I’m having a really bad depression episode I do whatever I can to avoid my own thoughts. Not only will I stay up watching youtube until I’m to tired to think, but I’ll also actively avoid getting any REM sleep because I can’t handle my dreams. (for the record I have been officially diagnosed with depression and anxiety by a professional just so you know I’m not pulling this out of my ass)
Do you have any idea how relieved I was to check the tags before the comic loaded and there was no Joyce.
Not because it’s Joyce but the comment sections have made me very tired.
Wise words by wise men type wise things in wise screen.
I’m sure we’ll get something discourse inciting within the week.
I’m gonna preemptively say that Agatha was completely justified in using Guns’s own gun against her.
Agatha is a perfect angel who has never done anything wrong in her entire life ever, and I will die on this hill.
The hill of corpses Agatha will leave in her wake.
To prevent them from becoming zombies, we need Guns control.
If Guns were ever to appear in Dumbing of Age, she probably would be the sort of person who gets people to violently hate her, so this tracks.
I always go to sleep before the Joyce arguing starts. Honestly I don’t particularly care enough to have a strong opinion.
Unfortunately the strips post in the mid-afternoon where I live.
The strip posts while I’m asleep. I’m reading it for the first time now and there’s already 122 comments.
Sometimes I get the feeling some of arguments aren’t about the fictional actions of a fictional character named Joyce Brown. What Joyce is written doing or saying doesn’t threaten the readers’ self-worth or past life choices.
That’s funny, ’cause I’ve been getting the feeling some of the arguments aren’t about the fictional actions of a fictional character named Joyce Brown either, but that manifests for me as “how do you read a character drama without caring about why characters do things” and “she didn’t actually call Becky an idiot, ya palookas.”
But it’s Joyce’s fault she didn’t show up in Amber’s room so that we could argue about her. All she had to do was walk across the hall.
Damn you, Joyce Brown!
I’m glad we’ve moved onto a character no one ever got mad at when her catastrophic trauma drove her to act in a way that came at the inconvenience of other people.
It makes a nice change.I like Lucy too.
I dunno, the comments got pretty heated that time Lucy and Bloodrose fought to the death in the gladiatorial arena.
I’ve started hating Joyce, not for anything related to the character but because of what an absolute cesspit the comments become when she pops up
Ok Amber’s sleep schedule is concerning but also can we talk about Dina’s sweater, I want one
As far as I know, they’re only available at one of Ohio’s Target Stores.
https://www.amazon.com/Casual-Dinosaur-Hoodies-Pullover-Sweatshirt/dp/B07XF19Z5C/ref=asc_df_B07XF19Z5C/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459505149096&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15340615202301385720&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9014879&hvtargid=pla-943237060926&psc=1
well dayum
shit, it’s real!!
The majority of striking DoA outfits are sourced from real images
Occasionally, Willis even posts them on Twitter
Who knew Dina kept a keen ear to the throbbing heartbeat of dinosaur fashion trends?
Or maybe she’s a trend-SETTER
See now, that’s another thing wrong with our world. Not enough dinosaur fashion trends.
well, im now slightly poorer, but at least i’ll have a cool dinosaur hoodie
IT’S A COMIC STRIP, DINA. THEY’RE ALL JOKES.
“One sec, killing spiders.”
I love staying awake late at night. I’m basically nocturnal. I’ve pulled many an all nighter unintentionally just getting shit done. The problem is all those DAYTIME PEOPLE trying to make me feel bad for my nocturnal lifestyle. I’M NOT SLEEPING IN! YOU’RE WAKING UP TOO EARLY!
Me too bruh!
Especially when Toonami’s on!!!
You watch toonami too? I actually do a podcast about it.
Really? I’d absolutely LOVE to check it out!
So funny story. The leader of our podcast messed up the payment so the podcast isn’t up right now. But I’ll let you know when it is.
I can hardly wait!
I used to work night shifts for a paper route in highschool and discovered the hardest part of staying up that late is that nothing is really going on.
Are you not familiar with the Internet?
I miss the days I was nocturnal. Night time is the best, I love the dark.
Me too. My powers are much stronger in darkness.
Hell yeah, night owls! Seriously, nothing is ever happening during the day because everyone is busy busting their asses for pennies. At night, I get plenty of clients and can play cool video games with all the people I want.
Yeah, I usually stay up very late. I probably should get more sleep, but I have too much that I want to get done, and fortunately my job starts at 1 p.m.
Dina. Honey. What in evolution’s name are you wearing?
Yes, I’ve seen the link Willis posted. The fact it actually exists isn’t a justification. And the fact it has dinosaur spikes only barely helps.
Maybe if you weren’t wearing the hat, so the color clash wouldn’t be as obvious? Though that is of course unthinkable.
Anyway, I was happily unaware until now that such hideous color mixes were actually marketed, as opposed to just being what happens when you let kids choose their own clothes. (I’m all in favor of letting kids choose their own clothes. I just also acknowledge that kids generally have absolutely horrible taste. Citation: was a kid once.)
First of all what are you talking about that new hoodie looks splendid.
Second of all, Dina probably doesn’t attempt to imitate any specific dinosaur ALL the time.
No one knows what colors the dinosaurs were.
From pigment studies people have managed to deduce the colours of Microraptor, Sinosaurypteryx, Anchiornis, Borealopelta, Psittacosaurus and Archaeopteryx
judging by birds today, it’s almost guaranteed some dinosaurs were just extravagantly garish.
From pigment studies of what? Not fossils as such. Rock that has been molded by where persistent organic mater used to be has very few surviving pigments. Now there were a few dinosaurs with feathers where a few feathers were preserved in volcanic ash, in China I think, and they were able to look at the melanosomes, is that right? Yes, melanosomes under a scanning microscope, but melanosomes only contribute dull colors. The bright or even garish colors come from carotenoids and porphyrins and such like and there isn’t enough material to help with those. So nobody knows.
If you have better information, could I ask for a link or two to help me out?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_coloration
Here’s a link for ya – tl;dr even with just melanosomes, there’s a lot more that can be inferred from them than you might think.
so this may not be the contribution that you hoped, but i found this hour-long talk pretty riveting, it goes into a detailed explanation of a different technique for detecting melanin in fossils in a synchrotron based on chemical signatures of trace amounts of organic matter. i love how the researcher just consistently and with a completely straight face uses the term “wiggly line” instead of saying curve, as though this makes his talk more accessible, when it’s actually fairly technical ^^
this question in the follow-up Q&A compares this method and the sort of scanning electron microscope findings that you mentioned Clif.
that said, do i have an answer regarding the sort of brighter but less likely to be preserved pigments? …no.
I will say though, that while some of the coloration is derived from inferred melanin type and density, structural coloration has also been observed in fossil feathers and insect scales, meaning coloration produced by the 3D microscopic structures, and i guess this includes brighter colours? Apparently, “peacock tail feathers are pigmented brown, but their microscopic structure makes them also reflect blue, turquoise, and green light, and they are often iridescent.”
ok i’m brain-drained now but i thought i’d share this much anyway =)
Thanks to both of you.
It’s a hoodie, and it looks fine.
Really? I think it looks fine. It’s very Dina, she loves anything dinosaur related.
It doesn’t look that bad. In fact, Dina makes it look kinda cute.
What color clash? This is a very popular style of color blocking.
I’m sorry you don’t have fashion sense i guess
Like you sound mad pretentious rn
One of the things I miss about college is the ability to stay up all night just for the hell of it and function the next day, as well as the ability to sleep until like 1 on the weekends. Being an adult and getting up by 8 at the latest every day kinda sucks.
amen to that
Have I told you recently how great retirement is?
Yeah! You can rise at 0530 every morning, hit the beach, and then when bleary-eyed Millennials emerge from their beds at 10:30 to mock the Genex for having left for work at 0800, smugly tell them that they have missed the best part of the day.
(Then, of course, you eat your dinner at 18:30, and go to bed at nine. But at least you’re asleep while the youngsters are laughing at you.)
I’d say that’s not how depression works, except I think maybe this is depression at work.
Dumbing of Age Book 12: Is This Valid Information or a Joke?
… and we have a winner.
I dunno, I’m still partial to “Probably Equal Amounts of Fun As Sitting Alone On a Couch”
i thought “Twenty Bucks” was also very fitting. those price tags are so small, sometimes they’re sort of hidden below the barcode, it’s a hassle.
I spent years working for Far East companies while I lived in TX, and usually went to bed right after work about 5 AM
Dina is a solid roommate.
Serious question: is the title a My Chemical Romance reference?
Probably. The majority of the chapter titles are music references in some way.
I’d have gone for Half Life here but sure
I’ve skkiped emo phase, so I didn’t get the reference. I got suprised, because I’ve found some band text when I was using Google to navigate throught here. I guess it’s a new band to listen, huh?
I’m extremely glad that the new Final Fantasy has a scene where the protagonist listens to some anime girl ramble about darkness so he says ‘bullshit’ and then turns his Limp Bizkit playlist on so he can power walk away.
It was the moment that crystalized that nu-metal is back and I can stop pretending I don’t love it so much.
Yes!
Fantano talked up Bring Me The Horizon a little while ago, and i was like, what the hell, this genre is still a thing?! also i had entirely forgot how hard it slapped?
and then i was talking music with these 18-year old lads and they were like “psh BMTH is just trashy fake metal” and i was like, wow, that also didn’t change, ok
anyway, link to some recent nu-metal thing you enjoyed, that’s right i want recs, i want you to wreck me with your recs
Oh I’m dyed in the wool 00s type, sorry.
I don’t pay attention to new things, and music’s more of a vibe to me than something I actively follow.
ah i see, music fashionistas like me going wild over gen X nu-metal is your alibi for blasting Rollin’ and A.D.I.D.A.S. and Chop Suey like its 2001
well, you know, glad i could help =)
I do actually like Chop Suey.
Or that one song that comes to mind when thinking of them. I probably know more game and animation OSTs than I do actual musicians.
oh i wasn’t dissing, i think Chop Suey is an absolute classic. they put it on at the climbing gym last i went and i just had to sing along with the chorus, i was hanging on by two digits and a toe but i didn’t have the option not to, it was epic
actual chop suey, i don’t think i’ve ever tasted.
7h40 is way too early to be awake on a suturday morning ; also, awesome dinosweater dina
alright this is totally unrelated to the comic but a friend once gifted me the same kind of sweater dina is wearing and it didn’t fit. still sad lmao.
🙁 my sympatheties
dorothy would never make such a silly typo, what have i done?
Typo? That’s not a typo. You’ve merely invented a new word. What’s its definition?
sympathies, but with confetti?
Symp or sympa (not to be confused with sempa) is to be in harmony with, leading to words like sympathy and symphony. Theties was a sea goddess, personification of the sea, mother of Achilles. SempaTheties is therefor brute expressing a desire that everyone who has lost a cute sweater should all live in harmony with the sea.
Dorothy would approve.
That final panel Amber reeaaaally looks like a brunette Dorothy.
I know *in universe* mention of it has been made before but for the longest time they were very distinct.
I don’t know, they aren’t just pallet swapped versions of each other. Amber’s hair is longer and Dorothy’s chin is more round.
Not saying that they’re palette swapped, just something is making her look different. It’s more her expression, I think, something about it just makes me think “Dorothy”.
I got confused about Dina’s shirt, at same time I loved the colors and really considering using it.
Confused? How so?
Yay! We have achieved Booster. Jacob and Lucy to go.
I’m sorry for Amber. She’s sinking deeper and deeper into her world of madness. Probably even more now than when she spent nights as AmaziGirl. Dina is right to be worried.
Nah, that’s just the kind of gingerbread you’d hear from the baloney man!
Oh boy, the baloneym’n! I’ll get the sandwich that’s shaped like there’s a bite taken out of it!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jPno9bR_Bo4
Possible, but more likely she stayed up all night killing spiders or hacking into the Chinese supercomputer.
I really hope Dina asks someone else about this so that she can get some proper information before trying to help Amber. Cause Amber needs some help, but she’s not going to give Dina a head start.
This is actually pretty good progress for Dina. She’s been really accepting of Amber’s statements on her grievous mental state (which is probably compounded by how Amber being Like That led to her saving Becky’s life), but this is the first time she’s ever questioned her.
I just want to say I really appreciate Willis’s attention to detail on that third panel there, with Dina’s ballooning as she puts on the hoodie. It’d would’ve been easier to just give her normal hair and no-one would notice, but Willis goes the extra mile.
Wait a minute, didn’t sleep deprivation bring out Brain!Mike last time?
In the sense that it may well have been the sleep deprivation that put Amazi-girl off her game enough for her not to be able to handle Blaine and Ross.
Yeah, I was under the impression that brain!Mike was just the equivalent of Amber’s brain shouting at her and waving the very important report it really really reaaalllly needs her to read.
We saw Brain!Mike as late as directly after Ross was murdered and later in the hospital outside Mike’s room too, so it wasn’t just that.
I mean when we saw him as Amaziber was making her way through Robin’s Uggtroopers to warn Becky about the kidnapping situation.
This strip and the one after it:
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-10/03-when-it-crumbles/operating/
aha! Can’t get tell if I’m depressed (or feeling anything else) when I completely break my brain. Checkmate, fools!
later: oh no it turns out depression is a kind of brain breakage not a feeling. dammit
It’s sweet that Dina is looking out for Amber like this.
Glad Dina is doing her best to looks out for Amber.
heh she forgets the short term psychotic break one gets on about day 4 where you hallucinate …. by day 6 after wandering around town the local PD is taking you into the er where you are given a rather shot of an opiate so you can pass out and 48 hours later on friday you can ask mom what happened because you don’t much remember anything past Tuesday night
why yes im personally acquainted with chronic insominia ……
never stayed up long enough for hallucinations, but i do know that after 72 hours i lose all ability to communicate in spoken or written words. right around hour 100 i can no longer solve math problems and am at that point, by several accounts “a perfect angel”.
my brain: mhahaha you will never fall sleep i will make sure of that
me: ok i’ll just play video games until i pass out
my brain: ……..valid
Ah, it’s nice having a comment section i can scroll though in 10 minutes and continue with my day
Also I’m tired of Carla and want sal back so grav roulette
Love you but nah
(something about being the world’s horniest aspec)
Close but hair’s too short
NEE
Why do i keep rolling dudes
Last one so i don’t get banned
i guess you’re Joe, now, hi Joe =)
You could just choose to stop at ten minutes, whether there are more comments or not.
I think Amber is getting the definitions of “Depression” “Desperation” and “Deprivation” all mixed up.
Ah, this brings me back to the height of my depression/mental illness. Sometimes in high school, I would stay up really late because I couldn’t bear to go to sleep and have the next day come even sooner
Lack of sleep causes insanity, Amber………Or is that the plan?
… Dina, I feel like if you’re just now asking you haven’t been paying a lot of attention.
Dina rocking the colorblock sleeves
#Lifehack