Well, I was going to point out that what I actually meant was that for all Joyce knows (and for all we know) what Joe wears to bed is as little as what Sal wears to bed, and so Joyce is taking a more cautious approach. But then it occured to me that it might be better, and funnier, to just leave it with Demoted Oblivious’s image. But of course by then I had typed all this in, and it keeps getting longer as I type, and it would just go to waste if I didn’t post it.
i mean or she’s just being generally cautious what with him being an ISM (Indomitable Sex Monster) you mean Demoted’s non-image meh lol haha teh! i’ve sunk your mom’s fallacy for a cost witty meta comment
I think he likely is, I know he’s demonstrated some dorkery at points on it, and I have like zero doubt if he *had* to talk to Amber, the conversation would loop to it as shared ground.
I don’t think so. I think Willis said Ethan niched him out on that one – he said ‘tall, handsome Jewish transformers nerd’ was a covered and he needed to focus more on what made Joe unique in such a large cast.
I mean, if we’re trying to give Ruth a fuckin’ heart attack, have Mary do it before she’s finished dressing, on a day after Ruth has been drinking, just to add that extra layer of “What did I do last night??”. I feel like Ruth would take that in stride, after the initial jumpscare.
If I suffer a terminal ailment, one of my final moves will be to attempt to emotionally blackmail Willis into accelerating the Joyce/Joe storyline so I might see it approaching its beginning stages before I die.
Hey, the last few days we’ve had a few DID systems posting here (Or maybe many alters of one DID system? I am not entirely sure). I wanted to know if any of you had read the current Hulk run, “Immortal Hulk”, and possible opinions? It deals a lot with Banner’s DID.
(Sorry Willis if this is hijacking)
Yeah, Immortal Hulk pretty much makes it text. The Devil Hulk was the first alter to form, as someone who would love and protect him (due to his mother’s death and his father’s abuse).
Savage Hulk, the one you know from most of his appearances, is basically a child with anger issues, and represents Banner as an abused child. Because this is the form that always has been persecuted and blamed for everything, he remembers kindnesses deeply. He also somehow always manages to minimize loss of life during his rampages.
Joe Fixit is the Grey Hulk, a jerk with a heart of gold, who used to work as a mob enforcer. (According to Tvtropes he is a perpetrator alter? Takes out his aggression on the world around him). He is the weakest hulk, but he is the cunning one.
the Professor Hulk was originally called a “merged” hulk, with the strength of Savage, the intelligence of Banner and the cunning of Joe Fixit, he is not quite that, and he isn’t as strong as Savage, smart as Banner or cunning as Joe. He is a whole other personality, and as of Immortal Hulk, he is gone from banner’s mindscape, either dormant or missing.
The Green Scar was born on the planet Sakaar to protect the system from the brutal planet.
While I dunno how accurate this all is to actual DID it is interesting! There is a small preface in Immortal Hulk #35 that gives some clarification as what each alter represents.
So I would assume that Joe/Joyce shippers correctly default to calling them JoJo, and referring to their dating experiences together as JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure?
Fleeing Canon tyranny,
The last BattleShip, Joece,
Leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet
On a lonely quest.
A Shining Planet
Known as OMG KISS ALREADY!!! *grinds two Transformers figs together*
I wonder if Danny and Joyce are any more acquainted now. Makes sense she’d enlist his help, though. I don’t think Joyce would want to casually climb over a half-naked buff guy. I mean, she’d *want* to, but you get what I mean.
I get the feeling that, not matter how well you emulate Joyce’s “wakey wakey”, having someone right in your face getting you out of bed in the morning would just suck. Just let sleepyheads be, dang it.
I have no idea what’s going on here regarding Joyce wanting Joe woken up with a triangular smile. However, having no idea what’s going on is such a common situation when it comes to Joyce that, in a way, it’s unremarkable.
Huh. Captain Kirk rubbing off on Joe doesn’t do it for me as much as Joyce doing so. Still, it’s an interesting idea. Are you planning on developing this further? Maybe into a full Trek-Formers-of-Age cross-over? (Trans-Trek seemed a little too on the nose)
Yeah. I mean, there’s fire drills, beer goggle induced walks of shame, being in hospital after an MVC, and waking up next to Jim Carrey’s “Vera de Milo” from In Living Colour,
and still a very large drop before falling as low as waking up next to Mary.
Still, I’d take Mary over my exes, because at least she’d be a new different mistake (although admittedly in the same class of errors).
I would have said she wouldn’t’ve been looking, except she must have to critique Danny’s efforts. Perhaps she is getting more comfortable with shedding other aspects of her upbringing too. She could help Becky along with accepting her urges.
Danny and Joyce are working together “against” Joe? This is awesome!!! Joe need to know that have a study project with Joyce is a serious business! Danny’s Triangle smile is cute.
The archives don’t have a search feature so I couldn’t look up specifically comics containing both Joyce and Danny (and i’m not going to scour them for that) but considering Joe has dated Joyce, and their immediate circle of friends have been pretty engaged with each other its very likely they have at the very least had a few moments of “Hey, Joyce.” “Hey, Danny.”. At the very least she knows him because she went on a date with Joe and hangs with Dorothy almost exclusively.
So… I know this probably means Joyce and Joe are finally dating, which I do love, they’re one of my favorite ships.
But is it wrong that I kinda hope her and Danny are dating? I know the joke this whole time has been that Joyce and Danny don’t know each other now, but like… the comic is over 10 years old, and we just got confirmation for the first time that they actually interact now. I think Danny and Joyce, now that neither of them are awful, would have a really interesting dynamic. Even if they’re not dating that would be cool too, but I don’t know… i just think it would be fun to explore that for a bit.
Well technically, the general definition of the word technically has been so systematically overstretched in internet arguments that in practice it is now used as a synonym for imo
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oh no she’s rubbing off
EVERY CHARACTER???
*on pins and needles waiting for WAKEY WAKEY Snoop*
so does that include mike?
“October Surprise,” remember?
It includes Jennifer and Jennifer is Mike.
WAKEY WAKEY ASSHOLE
*punches Joe in nose*
Mike wakes Toedad and Blaine in Hell. Mike went to Heaven but has a day job in Hell.
Nights he spends with Blaines Mom.
For a nickle.
Or sometimes a nickel.
WAKEY WAKEY IT’S BLOWJOB CAT
WAKEY WAKEY IT’S ZOMBIE TOEDAD.
Wakey, Wakey, Homphk!
Everybody heard it here first. I guess it’s up to Yoto or other resident artists to render, but Ana proposed Joyce rubbing off every character.
Galasso: WAKEY WAKEY, PEON!
I guess that’s why she isn’t in the room .
No, she’s not in the room so that she rub off.
*doesn’t rub off. (HTML tags did something weird there.)
She’s not in the room because she learned what Sal wears to bed and she can learn.
I mean, I understand the visuals, but I somehow don’t see Sal sleeping in Joe’s room. Ever.
Well, I was going to point out that what I actually meant was that for all Joyce knows (and for all we know) what Joe wears to bed is as little as what Sal wears to bed, and so Joyce is taking a more cautious approach. But then it occured to me that it might be better, and funnier, to just leave it with Demoted Oblivious’s image. But of course by then I had typed all this in, and it keeps getting longer as I type, and it would just go to waste if I didn’t post it.
The sunk cost fallacy wins again.
i mean or she’s just being generally cautiouswhat with him being an ISM (Indomitable Sex Monster)you mean Demoted’s non-imagemeh lolhahateh!i’ve sunk your mom’s fallacy for a costwitty meta comment…oh no
the sunken cost fallacy is contagious
Or maybe it was the sunken cost contingency is fallacious.
Something like that.
Quick Milu! Research exemplary historical pitfalls resulting from the fallacy before it’s too late!
aaaah much better. Thank you Wagstaff
No problem!
Forget asteroids. The sunk-cost fallacy is one of the greatest, most insidious threats to all our lives and livelihoods.
Phrasing
Danny is in the bed of the wrong well chinned hunk of Transformers nerd.
(Is Joe still a closet Transformers nerd here?)
I don’t think so? I think the open Transformers nerds Amber and Ethan fill that niche well enough
I’m sure he’s a closet nerd for something though
I think he likely is, I know he’s demonstrated some dorkery at points on it, and I have like zero doubt if he *had* to talk to Amber, the conversation would loop to it as shared ground.
We’ve seen him and Amber talk transformers before though, and it was less bonding over shared interests and more Amber monologuing while Joe rethinks his life choices
I don’t think so. I think Willis said Ethan niched him out on that one – he said ‘tall, handsome Jewish transformers nerd’ was a covered and he needed to focus more on what made Joe unique in such a large cast.
Danny’s mouth is entirely too much tooth.
Joyce impression 👉😇👉
Can’t even pull off triangular smile right. Danny is the worst.
he’s like if Mike and Malaya had a child!!! who sucked!!!!
No, no. Danny is objectively the worst.
For reasons.
It takes time to properly perfect the Triangle Smile™.
Not a bad initial attempt, all things considered.
Better than Dina’s for sure.
Wait, did she ever actually try a Wakey Wakey Smile in particular?
Well, I know I’d find sleep difficult after seeing that smile.
6/10, bright and annoying, but not quite triangular enough.
I fear for anyone tries to do this with Ruth
So let’s have Mary do it?
This made me laugh.
I mean, if we’re trying to give Ruth a fuckin’ heart attack, have Mary do it before she’s finished dressing, on a day after Ruth has been drinking, just to add that extra layer of “What did I do last night??”. I feel like Ruth would take that in stride, after the initial jumpscare.
So, before 3 PM?
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/dressed-2/
It should work until Ruth’s brain finishes booting and she thinks “wait, I don’t hate myself that much…”
*plays “Beautiful Days” by Masafumi Takada on Voxola PR-76*
Added to my “liked” on YTM.
Damn, I just realized that this is the first time a book has had more than four chapters/storylines in a whiiiile.
(Also yesss always lowkey excited for more Joe/Joyce interactions. They bring out a very interesting mutual vulnerability in each other.)
Agreed, and with acceptance and supportiveness too. It’s quite heartwarming.
After reading DoA first, then binging all of the Walkyverse, I’m so glad to be back in a comic where I actually like Danny again.
Not sure the Joyce wake-up works quite as well with dot eyes, though.
Yeah it’s a hell of a contrast.
Rassilon, you are the Devil incarnate. You almost got me. thank God I was able to not go down the absolute rabbit-hole of TV Tropes.
i clicked, like an absolute chump. i awoke many hours later, dishevelled and twitchy and needing to pee very, very bad. It was awesome.
Man we haven’t seen Joyce since… May 1st. That’s surprisingly long.
Also I’m always okay with more half naked Joe.
I mean, we still haven’t SEEN her again yet
She isn’t even tagged, so it doesn’t count as seeing her.
… wait. Aren’t characters who speak but are not seen still supposed to get tagged?
It was all a dream.
These aren’t the tags you’re looking for.
Tags? We don’t need no stinking tags!
She is, but I assume that was added in after you commented this.
Dimebox has always been at war with Flatonia.
I liked Joyce better before she got franchised out, she’s lost a lot of that homegrown feel.
Reboots always miss some key nuance of the original.
Oh hey, a Danny & Joyce interaction
She probably still doesn’t know his name
How did Joe get into the Joyce wakeup club?! That’s a very exclusive list.
my guess is being partnered up for biology lab.
That’s right. Joyce is having Joe woken up so that they can get started on biology.
Joe would be on board with helping Joyce learn some biology.
If you know what I mean.
And I think you do.
A nudge is as good as a wink to a blind parrot.
No Danny, don’t succumb to the Joyce-side of the Force. That way leads to nothing but triangle smiles and barely-restrained horniness.
I’m already halfway there
“Ahhh ahhh! Livin on a Prayer!”
“Take my hand, we’ll make it I swear!”
The Foyce
May The Foyce Be With Youse Guys Always.
Oh geez, they’ve teamed up. The DOAverse is doomed. That much ‘well meaning busybody’ is lethal.
If I suffer a terminal ailment, one of my final moves will be to attempt to emotionally blackmail Willis into accelerating the Joyce/Joe storyline so I might see it approaching its beginning stages before I die.
You don’t think dying will be emotional blackmail enough to see the end of it, only the beginning? How many times you gotta die to see the end then.
You only die twice,
Or so it seems,
Once for the beginning of Joe/Joyce,
And twice in your dreams.
I’m a realist.
Every Character gets a Wakey Wakey, except one Walky Walky
Wakey Walky is a sign of the end times. Not our end times, the comics.
Hey, the last few days we’ve had a few DID systems posting here (Or maybe many alters of one DID system? I am not entirely sure). I wanted to know if any of you had read the current Hulk run, “Immortal Hulk”, and possible opinions? It deals a lot with Banner’s DID.
(Sorry Willis if this is hijacking)
Is that canon to Hulk, these days? I haven’t touched a single comic he’s in outside of big events (Civil Wars, Infinity Gauntlet, etc).
Yep. Pretty much every different version of the hulk is a separate alter. Joe Fixit is my favorite
Yeah, Immortal Hulk pretty much makes it text. The Devil Hulk was the first alter to form, as someone who would love and protect him (due to his mother’s death and his father’s abuse).
Savage Hulk, the one you know from most of his appearances, is basically a child with anger issues, and represents Banner as an abused child. Because this is the form that always has been persecuted and blamed for everything, he remembers kindnesses deeply. He also somehow always manages to minimize loss of life during his rampages.
Joe Fixit is the Grey Hulk, a jerk with a heart of gold, who used to work as a mob enforcer. (According to Tvtropes he is a perpetrator alter? Takes out his aggression on the world around him). He is the weakest hulk, but he is the cunning one.
the Professor Hulk was originally called a “merged” hulk, with the strength of Savage, the intelligence of Banner and the cunning of Joe Fixit, he is not quite that, and he isn’t as strong as Savage, smart as Banner or cunning as Joe. He is a whole other personality, and as of Immortal Hulk, he is gone from banner’s mindscape, either dormant or missing.
The Green Scar was born on the planet Sakaar to protect the system from the brutal planet.
While I dunno how accurate this all is to actual DID it is interesting! There is a small preface in Immortal Hulk #35 that gives some clarification as what each alter represents.
Joyce’s influence spreads. She is her own religion now.
So I would assume that Joe/Joyce shippers correctly default to calling them JoJo, and referring to their dating experiences together as JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure?
Correct.
“This must be the work of an enemy stand!!!”
JoJo works, as does Joece, I guess.
Fleeing Canon tyranny,
The last BattleShip, Joece,
Leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet
On a lonely quest.
A Shining Planet
Known as OMG KISS ALREADY!!! *grinds two Transformers figs together*
hey, you even managed to spell FTLOAKT vertically! nice.
“Joe, did you lay this egg?”
NO
eeeeyyy I get that reference.
I hate that I know what this is a reference to
I hate that I don’t. But I found it!! Sorry, I mean I found a “did you lay this egg?” citation.
If you REALLY want to know, just google “Jouta Kujo”
It’s exceptionally bizarre
…son of a…
I had gone to switch my gravitar to something more fitting for this comment, but now it’s just stuck on the default one I got through the roulette
Aha, finally fixed it. Only took clearing the cache about 3 times and logging in/out of the account 7 times
suddenly I’m a diehard Joyce/Joe shipper 😮
I’m not mad at that
NANI?!
You expect Joyce to wakey wakey you,
BUT IT WAS ME,
DANNY!
Oh sweet merciful Neptune.
Oh come on. King Neptune is much too busy not existing or being in denial about his baldness to ever help anyone, land or sea.
better go ask Jupiter then.
Not to mention Neptune not being merciful AT ALL
Not even in Sailor Moon.
The roomies gang is back together :D. Now Sal just needs to come through the window.
Hm. Yes. Good.
“We don’t know how she got in.”
“I’ll tell ya how she got in. In tru da window.”
She came in through the bathroom window.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o14wVjw3HfQ
Tri again Danny, the mouth is not sufficiently triangular!
Pretty decent for a first try though.
I wonder if Danny and Joyce are any more acquainted now. Makes sense she’d enlist his help, though. I don’t think Joyce would want to casually climb over a half-naked buff guy. I mean, she’d *want* to, but you get what I mean.
They’d get along, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the ‘Joyce barely knows that Danny exists’ gag sticks around
As much as like Danny this is coming off a ‘holding a stabby implement behind my back’ vibe kind of thing
(But its Joe and Joyce together so its all good)
SEMICIRCLE GRIN
Semi-what? That’s a bloody trapezoid.
The feeling is contagious.
Jaysus, she’s spreading. Fetch me flamethrower.
Danny is Joycing good
I get the feeling that, not matter how well you emulate Joyce’s “wakey wakey”, having someone right in your face getting you out of bed in the morning would just suck. Just let sleepyheads be, dang it.
Its funny but only because its not happening to me
THIS.
Yeah I’m pretty sure I would hate to be woken up like this.
I ended a possible friendship with someone because they had a tendency to bang on people’s doors, late at night, including mine
I dont regret it
That’s not a friend, that’s an asshole in disguise, and you are right to cut them off.
Naw. My kids do this sometimes, and frankly it’s the best way to wake up.
We call that Stockholm syndrome in the biz.
Hahahahahahahaha *breathes* hahahahaha
sees the comments number is 69 “nice” wait, that means this comment broke it… shit. ~<3
Eggs and bakey!
Actually Dan you are here AS proxy. Joyce is the one who is here BY proxy in this situation. You are the proxy who is representing Joyce.
Actually, Dan and Joyce are both comic characters and Willis’s drawings are the proxy. Except that Joyce’s proxy is a word balloon.
Though I suppose that the drawing of Dan in the first panel is, in some sense a proxy for both. But we can all agree that Joe has been proximitied.
I have no idea what’s going on here regarding Joyce wanting Joe woken up with a triangular smile. However, having no idea what’s going on is such a common situation when it comes to Joyce that, in a way, it’s unremarkable.
She decided Joe must Suffer this fine morning.
And Mike was no longer available.
My guess is it has something to do with the fact that they are lab partners and might have an assignment they have to do.
Joe is shirtless again, the world is in balance.
There’s something terrifying about Danny in panel 1.
Huh. Captain Kirk rubbing off on Joe doesn’t do it for me as much as Joyce doing so. Still, it’s an interesting idea. Are you planning on developing this further? Maybe into a full Trek-Formers-of-Age cross-over? (Trans-Trek seemed a little too on the nose)
Somehow I feel that Joe has had worse wakeup.
When did he wake up next to Mary?
I feel like there are many many things between the triangular wakey wakey and waking up next to Mary on the bad wakeup scale.
Yeah. I mean, there’s fire drills, beer goggle induced walks of shame, being in hospital after an MVC, and waking up next to Jim Carrey’s “Vera de Milo” from In Living Colour,
and still a very large drop before falling as low as waking up next to Mary.
Still, I’d take Mary over my exes, because at least she’d be a new different mistake (although admittedly in the same class of errors).
I’m going to say something nice to you: You command a wealth of knowledge pertaining to terrible and horrific things.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/allergies/
Wow on point
Henceforth this comic shall be known as “the one where Willis promised that Mike would get his own WAKEY WAKEY panel.”
And he wakes up from the dead.
— gets out shovel to take a dig —
DyW probably meant only major characters.
Faked deaths are a thing for the witness protection program. Lots of them left in a body bag not zipped all the way up.
But do you know this from personal experience?
Joyce getting some naked torso service
I would have said she wouldn’t’ve been looking, except she must have to critique Danny’s efforts. Perhaps she is getting more comfortable with shedding other aspects of her upbringing too. She could help Becky along with accepting her urges.
Oh, except she only may have critiqued the voice, so maybe she wasn’t looking. Hard to say now.
Danny and Joyce are working together “against” Joe? This is awesome!!! Joe need to know that have a study project with Joyce is a serious business! Danny’s Triangle smile is cute.
I refuse to believe that Joyce would recruit a random stranger she’s never met before to harass Joe.
🙂
The archives don’t have a search feature so I couldn’t look up specifically comics containing both Joyce and Danny (and i’m not going to scour them for that) but considering Joe has dated Joyce, and their immediate circle of friends have been pretty engaged with each other its very likely they have at the very least had a few moments of “Hey, Joyce.” “Hey, Danny.”. At the very least she knows him because she went on a date with Joe and hangs with Dorothy almost exclusively.
You can look it up by searching two characters tags at once.
So to find shared appearances for Danny and Joyce you’d select a character tag and then add “+danny” like so
https://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/joyce+danny/
Thank you. I always forget the mechanism.
The joke is that Joyce barely remembers Danny exists. (He was one of her first love interests back in the old Walkyverse comics.)
Since he’s not wearing his hat right now, he’s just a big ol’ floating question mark.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/02-but-the-sun-still-shines/guys-2/
The hat is demised. It blew off his head on the roof, and has not been seen on his head since. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-10/04-is-a-song-forever/transformative/
I’m kinda surprised Joyce didn’t do the waking herself.
It’s part of her rebellion against the Nailed God. The morning sun shall be snuffed and she shall reign in eternal darkness!
Sithrak, the Blind Gibberer?
based Oglaf poster
And go into the BOYS’ bedroom?
Well she seems to be in a boys’ bedroom… and within effective range of Joe’s shirtlessness.
I assumed she was out in the hallway peeking through a crack in a mostly closed door.
Smart, minimizing the exposure to the Chest.
Implying she wouldn’t just freeze once she got into position.
Sorry not enough triangular smile.
Danny’s a bit round around the the edges.
NERF football smile.
Here I thought we were about to get a new Slipshine.
Ooooh I love whenever Joe and Joyce interact! 😀 Not just because I ship them, but because they are often some of the best parts of the comic, hehe.
Oh No, Darth Joyce got a new discipline in her Way of Sunshiness
Did you mean ‘discipline’ or ‘disciple’? I’m not asking to be pedantic, but am curious what this new discipline would be.
Ah, a brain fart. Yeah I meant disciple. Damn now you’ve got me thinking of Joyce in a Domina outfit…
I know its supposed to be unsettling when anyone other than Joyce triangle smiles, but Danny actually kind of pulls it off.
If anything, THAT makes it unsettling.
parabola smile
If what I think happened actually happened…it better have.
Oh, Joe doesn’t say “fuckin’ hell” because if there’s fuckin’ then clearly it isn’t hell for Joe.
Joe is having all kinds of second thoughts about dating Joyce right now.
“Wakey Wakey” should get a tag. 😛
So… I know this probably means Joyce and Joe are finally dating, which I do love, they’re one of my favorite ships.
But is it wrong that I kinda hope her and Danny are dating? I know the joke this whole time has been that Joyce and Danny don’t know each other now, but like… the comic is over 10 years old, and we just got confirmation for the first time that they actually interact now. I think Danny and Joyce, now that neither of them are awful, would have a really interesting dynamic. Even if they’re not dating that would be cool too, but I don’t know… i just think it would be fun to explore that for a bit.
i don’t think they’re dating, uh, yet?
Correct, they are not dating.
They are married.
Someone further up reminded me that Joyce and Joe have a science project to work on together. That’s probably what this is about.
Joyce be like “Come Joe, we have science to do!”
And somewhere around the corner Dina smiles and says “There is still hope for that one.”
everyone keeps assuming he’s HALF-naked?!
Like, who are y’all and what have you done with the comment section’s body??
If the other half has a blanket on it, then he’s not fully naked. (The comment section has its pedantic-side too.)
Technically,a side would indicate that we’re only half pedantic,.
We’re not 100% pedantry all the time, and technically “half” can just mean “in part” without implying a 50/50 division.
Well technically, the general definition of the word technically has been so systematically overstretched in internet arguments that in practice it is now used as a synonym for imo
But is every character going to get a chicken bakey panel as well?
No. Only Mike.
That is…
Disturbing…
aw joyce and danny friendship
terrifying to wake up to
I’m shipping Joe and Danny now.
No, I will not be taking criticism at this time.
Danny’s muppet mouth will haunt you in your dreams.