Because Robin is the living embodiment of “God looks out for drunks and fools”, and has a diet that simultaneously encourages Type 8,000,000 diabetes and discourages possession of teeth?
Robin is the kind of person that if you said something in front of her that you didn’t want some other person to know about it . . . that other person would somehow find out the EXACT MOMENT you shared it with Robin.
Right, let’s paper over the blatant corruption she showed in class, and therefore almost certainly exercised elsewhere. Or the casual disrespect she showed for her staffers, and disdain for her voters in her post-truth attitude of just saying whatever she thinks people want to hear, with her faked up personas.
Or, y’know, when she invaded Leslie’s house, refused to leave, and is currently demonstrating her continued disrespect for Leslie’s boundaries in panel 5.
Or, the fact that it took Becky hacking her phone, blackmailing her, and then an actual kidnapping for Robin to actually be good to one person, vs. all the people she undoubtedly hurt as a politician.
You’re falling victim to the same fallacious bs that moderates and tv pundits will use to defend the most assholish of assholes: “But they were nice to me and the people I know, so they must be a good person!” Nope. Not how it works, too small a sample size. And as I outlined, the sample size we do have is *still* pretty damning!
Great. Leslie’s still dating that awful women. Just great. I really hope we eventually see a better side of her so I don’t have to dislike her because we only have evidence of her being horrible to Leslie.
I ship her with whatserface that left a minute ago. No conflict since they’re not outranking each-other (I assume), she has… a face… she’s not the dentist
Police abuse is far from an America only issue. Similar systemic problems regarding civil rights abuses and treatment of marginalized groups exist all over the place. Here in Canada is a pretty good example.
Or (and I’m just spitballing here) the reason we keep cops around is because:
-It’s a system that’s been around for a very long time and has gotten entrenched, and momentum is hard to break
-We’re surrounded by popular media that extolls the virtues of cops and constantly casts them as the good guys, papering over constant civil rights violations as a necessary means to an end, normalizing things that we should be outraged about
-Proposals of alternate methods are often met with fear-mongering, threats of chaos in the streets, and sometimes veiled threats from the cops themselves
Also, things that cops do right makes the news all the time. Stories about hero cops are all over the place.
I mainly remember this strip. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/lovesleuth/
And basically every strip with her has been a play on this. Criticizing Leslie’s appearance or just criticizing in general. She has a big nose, she has bad teeth. Leslie’s apartment has bad tap water. Not every person has to be likeable, maybe Anna’s just a blunt person, but I like Leslie and so it kind of bothers me that the person she might be with only ever criticizes her. That’s pretty rough. But who knows? Maybe Anna has another side to her? We don’t, that’s for sure.
Wouldn’t Guns be a student in this universe? Not really relevant, but just curious about her age if Willis ever suffers enough brain damage to forget that Guns is verboten.
I mean, Marcie isn’t a student either and she’s shown up plenty. And I believe she lives with like twelve other people in an apartment IIRC, so Guns could easily be one of them. Y’know, apart from the fact that Guns is never showing up.
Really hope you change your mind when you start showing roller derby activities. Her redesign looks like a derby girl, and since friggin’ Whitney showed up at least once . . .
I found the post! It’s from over a decade ago so, as usual, notes about the possibility of Willis’ mind being changed and/or me missing him joking stand.
Yeah that It was almost like Anna was doing that pick up thing where you denigrate someone enough to make them think you’re doing them the favour in going out with them and that they should be greatful
Leslie clearly has pretty extreme self-esteem issues. I’d personally rather see her work on those issues and take better control of her life than have it all happen magically off-panel. having said that, we don’t really know what’s happened while we weren’t watching.
While I suspect you’re refering to the hygenist, i choose to interpret your comment thus:
Your substantiation of a disagreeable position is not in contradiction to the hypothesis that Leslie is now dating a cop. Torture instruments: gun, taser, tear gas, night stick, cuffs (check). For a living: cops are well paid as public servants go (check). Paying customers get pain killers: cops typically neither accept direct pay (well… hopefully that’s typical) and do not render first aid (which not rendering first aid, should be atypical, but there we are.) (check?)
You can leave in a huff. If that’s too soon you can leave in a minute and a huff. You know you haven’t stopped talking since I came here? You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle.
Also oh boy everyone really gonna judge Leslie on dating Anna like they judge Jennifer for dating Asher, huh.
As far as we can tell, Leslie/Anna isn’t a toxic relationship and they don’t seem to hate each other so…. live and let live? There’s a bit of ‘I don’t like Anna, so Leslie shouldn’t date Anna’ going on.
We’ve seen her being mean to Mindy and… that’s kinda it? She’s been neutrally abrasive to the few other people we’ve seen, but so are Carla, Jennifer, etc.
Like being Meandy isn’t great either, but people don’t dunk on Jennifer that hard for harshing on Walky.
She’s a side character dating a secondary member of the cast. I’m not seeing a lot of red flags other than her being kinda rude, but we could apply that to half the girls in the dorm. But also I don’t think we’ll see her that often so… assume Leslie is happy in the relationship unless otherwise? I’m not dating Anna.
She literally insulted leslie multiple times in their first strip together
“I like what you’re doing with your hair, it distracts from your big ass nose” that’s straight up negging yo
And Leslie’s still dating her, so yeah. If it looks doomed then it’s doomed, but otherwise I’m not gonna be that bothered by Leslie dating someone as long as it’s not illegal or the relationship is actually bad.
It’s not damaging Leslie’s self-esteem (if anything it’s improved it), it’s not affecting her work, so… what’s the beef here other than ‘you could do better?
Oh sure, it’s fine. Like I’m not saying people have to like Anna, I can easily see why people don’t like her. I think I’m just shrugging and going ‘I don’t like her, but hey, date her if you want, go nuts, you’re happy’.
But I may be biased after coming off years off people telling me that ‘I shouldn’t date X because I don’t like them’.
I’m not judging Leslie for this, I just wish she’d find someone better because Anna’s kind of awful. I don’t think she’s had a single strip where she hasn’t insulted Leslie in some way.
Well I told you once and I told you twice
But ya never listen to my advice
You don’t try very hard to please me
With what you know it should be easy–The Rolling Stones
Nope, because Robin is DEFINITELY straight. Definitely. No question. She’s just curious… you know, in the abstract… about the whole lesbian thing works. Maybe she could watch?
Why didn’t Leslie hit it off with Mindy? Unless I am remembering it wrong, she seemed very sweet and just a tad insecure, qualities that are far better than being a nagging killjoy (Anna) or being a turbo cartoon person (though Robin isn’t actually turbo in DoA, right?)
Mindy resonated too much with Leslie being a doormat, and it reminded her too much of herself.
Also, we’ve seen that Leslie likes people who are a bit confident, and hey, apparently a bit of negging too. Not my cup of tea, but she wants what she wants.
Mindy’s faults resonated with her in a way akin to feeling the yikes in your soul because she was basically a second Leslie in terms of awkwardness and insecurity.
Leslie however still has bad taste and can’t tell the difference between healthy confidence and self-security to not care what people think (when they are not trustworthy sources of criticism) versus arrogance and inability to care what people think (because no one’s criticism is valid, they will do what they want).
You know, for someone who’s probably crushing on Leslie herself — here she is in the wrong lounge, the cast page has Robin hoping Leslie notices her bow tie — Robin seems genuinely happy for Leslie, even if that means having found someone else.
Leslie, this is why I can’t take you even remotely seriously. Jesus, what is that last sentence? Is that anything? We come down on Robin for having Homer Simpson’s Applause Monkey Brain, rightly, but you’ve just fuckin disconnected your lexical centers from your thought centers, huh?
Also you’re dating Anna, which is actually worse than dating Asher! Gross!!
I feel for good girl Becks though. She’ll come to you for advice on politics and how to be a Sith Lord, Robin. Her love life is not such territory.
What? Her last sentence is completely legible, and grammatically correct. Certainly better composed than the phrases ‘is that anything?’ , or ‘her love live is not such territory’.
No, no it’s not. Ordering someone’s death in cold blood is evil. Blaine assholery has nothing to do with this issue. The issue is that Asher is fully willing to kill people who get in his way. That kind of ruthlessness could be as easily aimed at the kids in this comic.
Not when you are a shitty person yourself. He already threw Sal and Blaine under the bus for his own gain. There is nothing stopping him from doing it again to people who wronged him.
He threw Sal under the bus for his own gain. He threw Blaine under the bus for blackmailing him, using him to help kidnap a bunch of teens and murder a guy. Blaine had it coming, his actions were always going to destroy him.
That’s not really connected logic. I don’t support Asher because he killed Blaine to cover up his own involveemnt but I wouldn’t hold killing Blaine or Toedad against the kids given that both have tried to kill them before. Also, the law clearly won’t hold them to account.
The problem is that it’s not even about killing Blaine specifically. It’s about his willingness to use ruthless means to get ahead. He didn’t get Blaine killed for moral reasons, like protecting someone, he did it for his own gain. And when someone is willing to KILL for his own gain there is no saying what he might do when things don’t go his way.
Protecting yourself *is* protecting someone. Blain had specifically threatened Asher’s life with death by grandfather. Morally, it was a clear case of self defense.
IRL I might well agree. In fiction? I stand by my opinion Asher deserves cookies and beer if he put out a hit on Blaine (which is still unconfirmed. All we know is he was notified when it happened).
This is a ridiculous assertion. What evidence do you have that Asher would be involved in the death of anyone not Blaine, whose death was in fact a moral good? Please, present it, in excruciating detail.
Asher has already shown ruthlessness and willingness to throw other people under the bus. He ratted out Sal, he got Blaine killed. The moment things will start to go the way he doesn’t want them to he Will resort to violent means.
Asher ratted out Sal because he was a shitty teen and he emphatically regrets it. In literally every strip it’s discussed, he talks about how he’s not that kind of person anymore and how he wouldn’t do it again.
Causing the death of Blaine, we have already established, is fine and deserves a ticker-tape parade and a medal.
The third thing you’re saying is just another assertion with nothing to back it up. Asher’s shown himself to be a friendly, laid-back guy and a good boyfriend, who seems to honestly care about and for Jennifer, and who reached out to re-establish a friendship with Sal.
Asher talks a lot. It’s not clear yet how much of it he means. He went along with Blaine’s blackmail, which can be forgiven because blackmail does work, but isn’t exactly the sign of upstanding moral character. He got back in touch with the mob he claims to have broken away from in connection with the hit on Blaine.
Even his break with the mob was financed by stealing from them, which again isn’t a great moral stand.
As for killing Blaine, I’ll shed no tears, but it doesn’t seem like Asher did it for any reasons he should be proud of.
Words are cheap, especially from someone who is tied as deeply to the mob as him.
And once I say that it doesn’t matter what kind of person Blaine was, it’s how Asher decided to solve the problem put in front of him.
Again, words are cheap, psychopaths for example are VERY nice and skilled at manipulating people.
We’ll need to wait and see him in a situation where he has a stake in. Where he has to make a choice between his own gains and safety/needs of other people.
I mean, sure, words are cheap, but it’s kind of messed up to immediately jump to calling Asher a “psychopath” because he finished one job on a real scumbag motherfucker who absolutely would not stop forcing his Blainery into every possible situation he could. Did he do it for the wrong reasons? Maybe, but this is like me trying to claim Anna is clearly a domestic abuser.
Which I’m not saying, btw, I just think she’s a jerk and a general, all-purpose shithead who it’s gross to date, way more gross than a nice if slightly criminal boy who buys you sushi for lunch
Asher killed Blaine because he knew too much, and not because he was a horrible douche. Yes, Blaine’s death was a good thing, but the fact of the matter is that anyone who knows of his involvement in the plot would be a liability to Asher. Blaine just happened to be evil, and thus no great loss to anyone.
I don’t doubt that Asher wants to go straight, but as of right now we have no reason to believe he wouldn’t do the exact same thing to Jennifer if she somehow found out he was involved. Which I strongly suspect is where their plotlines may be headed, although I’ve abandoned my “Jennifer is specifically dating him to find out the truth” theory in favor of one that doesn’t revolve around Jennifer suddenly being a million times smarter than she normally is.
In fairness to Asher, he admitted to Sal that he stole the money and doesn’t seem at all concerned about her knowing, despite her having a potential axe to grind against him. I think what he would do depends on who knows, how they know, and what they intend to do about it. Blaine intended to out him to the mob, which would get him forced back in forever at best and killed at worst.
Because Asher wasn’t involved in Blaine’s deaths for any of the reasons that make it a moral good. His involvement was because of Blaine’s blackmail and/or fear of Blaine spilling family secrets to the cops.
I mean the USA killed Osama bin Laden because they wanted to keep a toxic imperial project going in the Middle East, but we all still call that a moral good because he was a prick
That’s pretty much a bullshit take. We were keeping our toxic imperial project going in the Middle East just fine despite bin Laden being alive.
Stepping away from politics, just think of it as one mobster calling a hit on a rival. Should the survivor get a ticker-tape parade and a medal because the guy he killed was a worse crook?
You’re close. #DeSantoHugeHonkers Which was then made fun of for using a 19 letter hash tag. And disbelieved because she has tiny hands, see #tinyhands.
Wow. Robin is really good at imitating a vulture. She’s perched on Leslie’s shoulder looking at her as if she’s waiting for the girlfriend to die to jump on Leslie. And poor Becky has to see all of this as she struggles with doubts about herself. What a wonderful sadism ♡!
I think “You’ve had your girlfriend longer than I have mine” means that Leslie is dating someone other than Anna. I have no idea who it could be, but given the last panel I hope she’s some sort of roller derby instructor.
To answer the unanswered questions, at least imo: “No, yes, and she’s got a much more fun butt to play with too.” At least if it’s still Anna, which I don’t see why not? She did start dating her after, so statement on length stands true.
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kinda surprised Becky would ask this kinda question in front of a third person, particularly Robin
granted, she let everyone know she’s a lesbian
I thought Robin gave up her position at government for Becky, why wouldn’t she trust her?
Because Robin is the living embodiment of “God looks out for drunks and fools”, and has a diet that simultaneously encourages Type 8,000,000 diabetes and discourages possession of teeth?
I agree, Mr D!
Also, Robin rules, so why wouldn’t she! <3
Robin is the kind of person that if you said something in front of her that you didn’t want some other person to know about it . . . that other person would somehow find out the EXACT MOMENT you shared it with Robin.
But they’d also find it out from Robin. So like 50/50 if they believe it.
cauise people are still mad at her for her fictional politics regardles that she been an angel in Beckys life
Right, let’s paper over the blatant corruption she showed in class, and therefore almost certainly exercised elsewhere. Or the casual disrespect she showed for her staffers, and disdain for her voters in her post-truth attitude of just saying whatever she thinks people want to hear, with her faked up personas.
Or, y’know, when she invaded Leslie’s house, refused to leave, and is currently demonstrating her continued disrespect for Leslie’s boundaries in panel 5.
Or, the fact that it took Becky hacking her phone, blackmailing her, and then an actual kidnapping for Robin to actually be good to one person, vs. all the people she undoubtedly hurt as a politician.
You’re falling victim to the same fallacious bs that moderates and tv pundits will use to defend the most assholish of assholes: “But they were nice to me and the people I know, so they must be a good person!” Nope. Not how it works, too small a sample size. And as I outlined, the sample size we do have is *still* pretty damning!
she hasn’t asked the question, only clarified what kind it is.
Robin: Our daughter is growing up so fast!
Leslie: I hate that the first two words of that sentence are only 95% wrong.
90% wrong, tops.
Great. Leslie’s still dating that awful women. Just great. I really hope we eventually see a better side of her so I don’t have to dislike her because we only have evidence of her being horrible to Leslie.
Not necessarily. It could be somebody else.
Please let it be somebody else
I ship her with whatserface that left a minute ago. No conflict since they’re not outranking each-other (I assume), she has… a face… she’s not the dentist
Vivian.
I’m hoping an actual police officer, given the phrasing there. I doubt it – probably just means they moved in together – but I can hope, damn it!
I’d rather her be with Anna than a cop, dentists actually help people and at least she’d only be emotionally abusive.
Also I’m pretty sure the joke is “break into my home again and you’ll need a dentist”
The reason we keep cops around and pay them is because they generally do help people. That just generally doesn’t make the news.
Cops hurt people a hell of a lot more than they help
*In America
I dunno man the UK ain’t doing so hot right now either.
Police abuse is far from an America only issue. Similar systemic problems regarding civil rights abuses and treatment of marginalized groups exist all over the place. Here in Canada is a pretty good example.
Evidence? What are your measurements for people helped vs. hurt?
When someone does their job wrong, they get held accountable, fired, even get prevented from practicing again.
When a cop does their job wrong at the expense of another life, they get a paid vacation.
Don’t see how you can claim police officers are never fired. Why in Florida alone 3% of police officers were previously fired. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/16/what-happens-when-police-officer-gets-fired-very-often-another-police-agency-hires-them/
/sarcasm
Or (and I’m just spitballing here) the reason we keep cops around is because:
-It’s a system that’s been around for a very long time and has gotten entrenched, and momentum is hard to break
-We’re surrounded by popular media that extolls the virtues of cops and constantly casts them as the good guys, papering over constant civil rights violations as a necessary means to an end, normalizing things that we should be outraged about
-Proposals of alternate methods are often met with fear-mongering, threats of chaos in the streets, and sometimes veiled threats from the cops themselves
Also, things that cops do right makes the news all the time. Stories about hero cops are all over the place.
Organized police haven’t been around all that long, actually.
And pre-cop society was not a peaceful utopia.
And in the US cops apparently abuse their partners at a rate of 40%.
Said partners have nowhere to turn because cops protect other cops, so no police reports really get filed.
The only interaction I’ve seen between her a Leslie is the two of them shit talking Jesus together and implied fucking.
I mainly remember this strip.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/lovesleuth/
And basically every strip with her has been a play on this. Criticizing Leslie’s appearance or just criticizing in general. She has a big nose, she has bad teeth. Leslie’s apartment has bad tap water. Not every person has to be likeable, maybe Anna’s just a blunt person, but I like Leslie and so it kind of bothers me that the person she might be with only ever criticizes her. That’s pretty rough. But who knows? Maybe Anna has another side to her? We don’t, that’s for sure.
Honestly, I think Guns herself would be preferable to Anna.
…okay, maybe not Guns. Lemme just hit random on Walkypedia a few times and see what I get.
…how about Monique or Rashida? I don’t believe either of them have shown up yet.
Wouldn’t Guns be a student in this universe? Not really relevant, but just curious about her age if Willis ever suffers enough brain damage to forget that Guns is verboten.
Per Willis, Guns can’t afford to go to college and so is never going to show up in DOA.
For the best. They’ve had guns on campus too many times this year
To bad, I saw re-imagined guns I expected something like her competing in a roller derby game playing against Sal, Amber, and the others.
Yeah, her getting a role as sports rival is probably her only chance at making an appearance
I mean, Marcie isn’t a student either and she’s shown up plenty. And I believe she lives with like twelve other people in an apartment IIRC, so Guns could easily be one of them. Y’know, apart from the fact that Guns is never showing up.
And Willis never changes his mind.
Well, sure, he could’ve, but bar evidence he has, I can’t comment on that. 😛
*scratches head* I said that?
I mean, maybe I did
but it’s not technically accurate, even if the on-panel result is the same
Really hope you change your mind when you start showing roller derby activities. Her redesign looks like a derby girl, and since friggin’ Whitney showed up at least once . . .
but it’s not funny to me if whitney never shows up
I believe it was the in universe answer for why she wasn’t showing up. The out of universe answer being petty refusal at every turn.
https://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/6946346976/and-heres-marcie-im-not-as-confident-in-her#notes
I found the post! It’s from over a decade ago so, as usual, notes about the possibility of Willis’ mind being changed and/or me missing him joking stand.
between us, guns actually lived in joyce’s floor for the first ten years of the strip, you just never saw her
I now really wish I knew who this “Gunz” person is because they sound pretty awesome. And poor. Pooresome!
@ Willis – Ooooh! Agatha’s notorious roommate?
@ Sirksome – Nah, she’s a hipster. Clearly better off exiled from the strip. xD
Yeah that It was almost like Anna was doing that pick up thing where you denigrate someone enough to make them think you’re doing them the favour in going out with them and that they should be greatful
I can’t believe I didn’t initially realize that the reason Mindy got so jealous was because of Anna’s negging
Leslie clearly has pretty extreme self-esteem issues. I’d personally rather see her work on those issues and take better control of her life than have it all happen magically off-panel. having said that, we don’t really know what’s happened while we weren’t watching.
“Maybe Anna has another side to her?”
Anna kicks puppies. But only small evil puppies.
Maybe she’s dating a completely different awful woman.
No, just the one.
Place your bets on which obscure character you think it’s going to be!
It’s probably still Anna, right? The dentist?
Kinda can’t see it being anyone else
“Try breaking into my place again…” is Leslie’s girlfriends phone number 911? Did she meet a cop?
No, she met someone who wields torture instruments for a living. Pain-killer is for paying customers only.
While I suspect you’re refering to the hygenist, i choose to interpret your comment thus:
Your substantiation of a disagreeable position is not in contradiction to the hypothesis that Leslie is now dating a cop. Torture instruments: gun, taser, tear gas, night stick, cuffs (check). For a living: cops are well paid as public servants go (check). Paying customers get pain killers: cops typically neither accept direct pay (well… hopefully that’s typical) and do not render first aid (which not rendering first aid, should be atypical, but there we are.) (check?)
I’m hoping it’s not still Anna. The few strips we’ve seen with her and Leslie didn’t make me like her much so far.
I really wanted to choose to believe that Leslie was dating Anna Chronistic but the cognitive dissonance was too great.
But it might explain Anna’s capacity for consistently FP’ing the forum.
*Ana’s
Okay, I laughed, but I need to see Robin vs Anna.
They’re both totally wrong for Leslie, so knowing Leslie she’ll actually end up with both of them.
Have we had a threesome slipshine?
There must’ve been one for Sierra-Grace-Mandy.
Negative. Closest thing is one of the pinups where Grace and Mandy oogle a post-shower Sierra.
I just went and checked, I didn’t know that by memory.
Uh-huh.
Ugh. Robin.
Can we go back to something mundane now, like the Joyce/Joe will they/won’t they or something.
If it’s still the dentist the answer is no to both.
I’m kinda impressed Les found someone who’s a step down from the decidely less-than-ideal Robin and decided to go for it
Which dentist? Yeah, Anna and Mindy are both dentists.
Mindy is a dental assistant.
Or hygienist, I forget.
“Will you marry me?”
“Did your husband leave you any money?”
“Answer the second question first.”
– Marx
Emily, I have a confession to make. I really am a horse doctor. But marry me, and I’ll never look at any other horse.
You can leave in a huff. If that’s too soon you can leave in a minute and a huff. You know you haven’t stopped talking since I came here? You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle.
you can’t just say “marx” like that, i was so confused about what this strip had to do with communism
Karl was the un-funny Marx brother. Duller even than Gummo.
Such a bad actor that they wouldn’t let him into any of their movies.
Also oh boy everyone really gonna judge Leslie on dating Anna like they judge Jennifer for dating Asher, huh.
As far as we can tell, Leslie/Anna isn’t a toxic relationship and they don’t seem to hate each other so…. live and let live? There’s a bit of ‘I don’t like Anna, so Leslie shouldn’t date Anna’ going on.
I kind of judge Jen less for dating Asher. He’s superficially charming and has sympathetic qualities.
Anna is just aggressively unpleasant and mean at every opportunity
We’ve seen her being mean to Mindy and… that’s kinda it? She’s been neutrally abrasive to the few other people we’ve seen, but so are Carla, Jennifer, etc.
Like being Meandy isn’t great either, but people don’t dunk on Jennifer that hard for harshing on Walky.
It’s more that ‘mean’ is about the only character trait she’s got at the moment, and she’s giving off a lot of red flags
She’s a side character dating a secondary member of the cast. I’m not seeing a lot of red flags other than her being kinda rude, but we could apply that to half the girls in the dorm. But also I don’t think we’ll see her that often so… assume Leslie is happy in the relationship unless otherwise? I’m not dating Anna.
She literally insulted leslie multiple times in their first strip together
“I like what you’re doing with your hair, it distracts from your big ass nose” that’s straight up negging yo
Reread the Anna tag. She was awful.
And Leslie’s still dating her, so yeah. If it looks doomed then it’s doomed, but otherwise I’m not gonna be that bothered by Leslie dating someone as long as it’s not illegal or the relationship is actually bad.
It’s not damaging Leslie’s self-esteem (if anything it’s improved it), it’s not affecting her work, so… what’s the beef here other than ‘you could do better?
It’s okay to be against dating super mean people.
Oh sure, it’s fine. Like I’m not saying people have to like Anna, I can easily see why people don’t like her. I think I’m just shrugging and going ‘I don’t like her, but hey, date her if you want, go nuts, you’re happy’.
But I may be biased after coming off years off people telling me that ‘I shouldn’t date X because I don’t like them’.
Fun fact: People dating shitty people doesn’t make the shitty person less shitty.
I hope this was educational for you.
Instructions unclear, started being shittier than shitty person I’m dating so they appear less shitty in comparison.
Wait, that’s entirely wrong, isn’t it?
I’m not judging Leslie for this, I just wish she’d find someone better because Anna’s kind of awful. I don’t think she’s had a single strip where she hasn’t insulted Leslie in some way.
Yeah, she seems to neg Leslie and that’s not making a great impression. Admittedly we haven’t seen much of her, though.
We are allowed to not like certain ships, you know that right?
That’s an invitation. Now if Robin breaks in Leslie can’t charge her with anything.
Also a problem if Robin happens to be a vampire.
Well, we know she’s not a werewolf, but I suppose we can’t rule vampire out.
Robin had reality-bending powers in Shortpacked! that seem to be absent here. So maybe she is a werewolf in this one, who knows?
She’s already been in Leslie’s house, so either she’s not a vampire or she was already invited somehow. Either way, not a problem now.
If Leslie were the sort to call the cops either way, she’d have done so the first (and hopefully last) time Robin pulled that crap.
They’d have shot Leslie.
I’d be careful Robin might take that as an actual invitation.
That’s a smart move on Becky’s part, the last romance Robin was apart of was a very short firey train wreck.
Careful, Robin. Becky’s girlfriend will go t-rex on you.
Elbow her right in the face Leslie, she’s in prime position
Well I told you once and I told you twice
But ya never listen to my advice
You don’t try very hard to please me
With what you know it should be easy–The Rolling Stones
Don’t say the Leslie, she’ll take it as an invitation.
That*
DON’T try answering the first two, Leslie. Robin needs an object lesson in what boundaries are.
Boundaries need to be made out of concrete for Robin to respect them. Preferably reinforced concrete.
Threesome?
(I’m 50% sure that’s what Robin heard)
Nope, because Robin is DEFINITELY straight. Definitely. No question. She’s just curious… you know, in the abstract… about the whole lesbian thing works. Maybe she could watch?
Maybe Robin and Jennifer can be curious together.
Why didn’t Leslie hit it off with Mindy? Unless I am remembering it wrong, she seemed very sweet and just a tad insecure, qualities that are far better than being a nagging killjoy (Anna) or being a turbo cartoon person (though Robin isn’t actually turbo in DoA, right?)
Mindy resonated too much with Leslie being a doormat, and it reminded her too much of herself.
Also, we’ve seen that Leslie likes people who are a bit confident, and hey, apparently a bit of negging too. Not my cup of tea, but she wants what she wants.
The answer is that Leslie isn’t attracted to nice girls but aggressive alpha personalities.
She has a type. Nothing wrong with that. Veronica not Betty.
Oh, Veronica, let me stroke that gorgeous black hair. No, I won’t mess it up. I promise.
Unfortunately, based on the small sample we’ve seen so far, that type seems to be “terrible to/for her”.
Mindy’s faults resonated with her in a way akin to feeling the yikes in your soul because she was basically a second Leslie in terms of awkwardness and insecurity.
Leslie however still has bad taste and can’t tell the difference between healthy confidence and self-security to not care what people think (when they are not trustworthy sources of criticism) versus arrogance and inability to care what people think (because no one’s criticism is valid, they will do what they want).
Dating Mindy is also just dating lesbian Joyce.
Leslie has to have seen that too.
How so?
And Leslie only knows Joyce as a student I think?
…the first time as tragedy; the second time as farce.
This conversation should be moved to Leslie’s office, away from prying Robin’s.
I don’t think that Robin would stay out of Leslie’s office just because she was unwelcome and being there was inappropriate.
Locks help.
Leslie is making this sound like a threat, but it’s… not that threatening?
Leslie does have that baseball bat, and I bet Anna can swing it harder than she can…
Anna is a dentist. Leslie is threatening to knock some teeth out.
“No, yes, and see the answer before no.”
Leslie you fool, with the Robin Reality Filter (TM) she’ll take that as a serious invitation to visit!
Becky, you’re in luck! Robin is there to demonstrate all behaviours that are unhealthy to display in a relationship!
You know, for someone who’s probably crushing on Leslie herself — here she is in the wrong lounge, the cast page has Robin hoping Leslie notices her bow tie — Robin seems genuinely happy for Leslie, even if that means having found someone else.
Hmm, meant that to be a top level comment.
Leslie, this is why I can’t take you even remotely seriously. Jesus, what is that last sentence? Is that anything? We come down on Robin for having Homer Simpson’s Applause Monkey Brain, rightly, but you’ve just fuckin disconnected your lexical centers from your thought centers, huh?
Also you’re dating Anna, which is actually worse than dating Asher! Gross!!
I feel for good girl Becks though. She’ll come to you for advice on politics and how to be a Sith Lord, Robin. Her love life is not such territory.
What? Her last sentence is completely legible, and grammatically correct. Certainly better composed than the phrases ‘is that anything?’ , or ‘her love live is not such territory’.
Anna is worse than the guy that basically ordered someone to be killed?
Asher ordered Blaine to be killed, which is a moral good. We’ve been over this.
Also he didn’t neg anyone while he did it, which is more than Anna can say.
No, no it’s not. Ordering someone’s death in cold blood is evil. Blaine assholery has nothing to do with this issue. The issue is that Asher is fully willing to kill people who get in his way. That kind of ruthlessness could be as easily aimed at the kids in this comic.
A willingness to kill shitty people can be a very positive trait.
Not when you are a shitty person yourself. He already threw Sal and Blaine under the bus for his own gain. There is nothing stopping him from doing it again to people who wronged him.
He threw Sal under the bus for his own gain. He threw Blaine under the bus for blackmailing him, using him to help kidnap a bunch of teens and murder a guy. Blaine had it coming, his actions were always going to destroy him.
That’s not really connected logic. I don’t support Asher because he killed Blaine to cover up his own involveemnt but I wouldn’t hold killing Blaine or Toedad against the kids given that both have tried to kill them before. Also, the law clearly won’t hold them to account.
The problem is that it’s not even about killing Blaine specifically. It’s about his willingness to use ruthless means to get ahead. He didn’t get Blaine killed for moral reasons, like protecting someone, he did it for his own gain. And when someone is willing to KILL for his own gain there is no saying what he might do when things don’t go his way.
Protecting yourself *is* protecting someone. Blain had specifically threatened Asher’s life with death by grandfather. Morally, it was a clear case of self defense.
IRL I might well agree. In fiction? I stand by my opinion Asher deserves cookies and beer if he put out a hit on Blaine (which is still unconfirmed. All we know is he was notified when it happened).
This is a ridiculous assertion. What evidence do you have that Asher would be involved in the death of anyone not Blaine, whose death was in fact a moral good? Please, present it, in excruciating detail.
Asher has already shown ruthlessness and willingness to throw other people under the bus. He ratted out Sal, he got Blaine killed. The moment things will start to go the way he doesn’t want them to he Will resort to violent means.
“Asher has already shown ruthlessness”
So that’s why Jennifer is dating him!
Hehe XD
(Note: I’m not trying to say Ruth and Asher are somehow morally equivalent. They’re not. Just couldn’t resist the joke)
Though one could argue that Jennifer is only dating Asher because she’s ruthless.
Are you saying that Jennifer is ruthless, that Asher is a closeted trans woman, or both?
Jennifer is obviously ruthless.
Asher ratted out Sal because he was a shitty teen and he emphatically regrets it. In literally every strip it’s discussed, he talks about how he’s not that kind of person anymore and how he wouldn’t do it again.
Causing the death of Blaine, we have already established, is fine and deserves a ticker-tape parade and a medal.
The third thing you’re saying is just another assertion with nothing to back it up. Asher’s shown himself to be a friendly, laid-back guy and a good boyfriend, who seems to honestly care about and for Jennifer, and who reached out to re-establish a friendship with Sal.
Asher talks a lot. It’s not clear yet how much of it he means. He went along with Blaine’s blackmail, which can be forgiven because blackmail does work, but isn’t exactly the sign of upstanding moral character. He got back in touch with the mob he claims to have broken away from in connection with the hit on Blaine.
Even his break with the mob was financed by stealing from them, which again isn’t a great moral stand.
As for killing Blaine, I’ll shed no tears, but it doesn’t seem like Asher did it for any reasons he should be proud of.
Words are cheap, especially from someone who is tied as deeply to the mob as him.
And once I say that it doesn’t matter what kind of person Blaine was, it’s how Asher decided to solve the problem put in front of him.
Again, words are cheap, psychopaths for example are VERY nice and skilled at manipulating people.
We’ll need to wait and see him in a situation where he has a stake in. Where he has to make a choice between his own gains and safety/needs of other people.
I mean, sure, words are cheap, but it’s kind of messed up to immediately jump to calling Asher a “psychopath” because he finished one job on a real scumbag motherfucker who absolutely would not stop forcing his Blainery into every possible situation he could. Did he do it for the wrong reasons? Maybe, but this is like me trying to claim Anna is clearly a domestic abuser.
Which I’m not saying, btw, I just think she’s a jerk and a general, all-purpose shithead who it’s gross to date, way more gross than a nice if slightly criminal boy who buys you sushi for lunch
The worst that can happen to Leslie is that her self-esteem will take a couple more blows.
The worst that can happen to Billie is that she will die… or worse.
Asher killed Blaine because he knew too much, and not because he was a horrible douche. Yes, Blaine’s death was a good thing, but the fact of the matter is that anyone who knows of his involvement in the plot would be a liability to Asher. Blaine just happened to be evil, and thus no great loss to anyone.
I don’t doubt that Asher wants to go straight, but as of right now we have no reason to believe he wouldn’t do the exact same thing to Jennifer if she somehow found out he was involved. Which I strongly suspect is where their plotlines may be headed, although I’ve abandoned my “Jennifer is specifically dating him to find out the truth” theory in favor of one that doesn’t revolve around Jennifer suddenly being a million times smarter than she normally is.
In fairness to Asher, he admitted to Sal that he stole the money and doesn’t seem at all concerned about her knowing, despite her having a potential axe to grind against him. I think what he would do depends on who knows, how they know, and what they intend to do about it. Blaine intended to out him to the mob, which would get him forced back in forever at best and killed at worst.
Because Asher wasn’t involved in Blaine’s deaths for any of the reasons that make it a moral good. His involvement was because of Blaine’s blackmail and/or fear of Blaine spilling family secrets to the cops.
I mean the USA killed Osama bin Laden because they wanted to keep a toxic imperial project going in the Middle East, but we all still call that a moral good because he was a prick
Yeah killed him after funding and training his troops…
I mean, it’s not an exact analogy because no one in the entire DOA universe is as completely morally bankrupt as the US government
That’s pretty much a bullshit take. We were keeping our toxic imperial project going in the Middle East just fine despite bin Laden being alive.
Stepping away from politics, just think of it as one mobster calling a hit on a rival. Should the survivor get a ticker-tape parade and a medal because the guy he killed was a worse crook?
But Blaine killed Toedad, so…?
Good work Leslie you phrased it somewhere between an invitation and a suggested plan.
Maybe she’s hoping that Anna will hospitalise Robin and get arrested, thus solving both her relationship problems in one go?
“DOUBLE KNOCKOUT!”
Declares the Referee.
TFW no adult around you has good advice.
Robin, don’t worry about someone else’s rack. You’ll always have the hashtag to prove yours is better. #DeSantosHugeHooters*.
(*I don’t remember exactly.)
You’re close. #DeSantoHugeHonkers Which was then made fun of for using a 19 letter hash tag. And disbelieved because she has tiny hands, see #tinyhands.
Wow. Robin is really good at imitating a vulture. She’s perched on Leslie’s shoulder looking at her as if she’s waiting for the girlfriend to die to jump on Leslie. And poor Becky has to see all of this as she struggles with doubts about herself. What a wonderful sadism ♡!
Robin seems to like positioning herself within the arc of Leslie’s elbow…
I think “You’ve had your girlfriend longer than I have mine” means that Leslie is dating someone other than Anna. I have no idea who it could be, but given the last panel I hope she’s some sort of roller derby instructor.
Becky and Dina were together before Leslie met Anna. Little reason to think it’s anyone else.
Apart from, y’know, wishful thinking.
Theoretical other girlfriend that is a roller derby instructor is the girlfriend Leslie deserves and thus, per Willis rules, she will not get
“and at hat moment, I will break your legs”
Everyone loves those hat moments.
Well, almost everyone.
To answer the unanswered questions, at least imo: “No, yes, and she’s got a much more fun butt to play with too.” At least if it’s still Anna, which I don’t see why not? She did start dating her after, so statement on length stands true.
We need Robin’s old staff back!
Maybe she keeps Aide in her office.