Or just go the full Pyrrho and don’t accept anything you can’t be certain of, which includes everything. (It might help to have acolytes to gently guide you away from cliffs, wild animals etc.)
At first they are steamy, then the steam is washed away, leaving a bunch of water droplets that make seeing clearly difficult (which is why cars have windshield wipers). Trying to clear the droplets with fingers simply rearranges the water. Even if your head isn’t in the shower stream, water from your hair will get on the lenses. Given the mildness of Joyce’s myopia, she’d have better vision in the shower without the glasses.
Yeah, I’d say it depends on how bad exactly one’s myopia is. My eyesight is TERRIBLE. If I didn’t wear my glasses into the shower, the entire shower apparatus would look like a silver blob. Even so, I don’t keep them on the ENTIRE time. I mainly bring them in to wash them (gets rid of any sweat/oil/dirt that might have gotten on the lenses during the day), then take them off during lathering/showering, then pop them back on once I’m done.
the hell kind of spiffed up rinky dink sav sucking schools are you going to with hot showers?? In my day you were lucky if you had 2 minutes of water that wasnt cold a witches tit *shakes cane*
I lived in off-campus slum-lord apartments, sub-divided homes used as rental income for, um, slum lords. They weren’t fancy, but they all had hot water on demand.
I don’t remember how I handled dorm showers. Or, shared dorm showers. The non-freshman dorms had a shower in the shared bath, or at least the one I had did. Prob I just walked to the shared shower without glasses, since I can barely sort of see enough to not hit everything in my way.
But, the optometrist said is was important for her to wear them all the time to get used to them and she is that hungry for authority figures to blindly listen to.
awwwww. It’s the little things, like Becky waiting in line for the shower stall with her towel and little basket that really hits home that she’s a student now. She belongs. She’s allowed to be there.
Maybe they get a professional cleaning company to do it every few months and the students are supposed to keep it clean in between. That would about yield the results we’ve seen so far.
I wash my bathroom whenever I can’t stand it anymore or I’m expecting company. (It’s just me and I’m basically a hermit, so that doesn’t happen too often.)
In an early strip, Ruth was telling someone it was a good time to take a shower because the facilities had just been cleaned. I’m sure they don’t stay clean very long
people who lived in dorms, was it that bad? When I moved out I went into off campus housing (the campus I chose didn’t have housing, but others I considered did and I did not want to do dorms either way).
Even if the showers were cleaned daily, after a few dozen people had used them in the morning the hair and other grunge that would collect around the drain could be rather off-putting. Maybe that’s why Carla showered in the evening; she knew when the custodians came through and made sure she was one of the first ones in after they had been serviced and freshened again.
They were fine.
But I went to Caltech, which had money. Bathrooms were probably cleaned every day, though I’m not sure, and my hallways would have had like 6 people for 2 stalls.
Also they came and cleaned our dorm rooms every two weeks. Not moving your stuff around but vacuuming and emptying the trash cans and maybe taking obvious trash, I wouldn’t know because I wasn’t a slob who left soda cans lying around.
We had 4-room suites with showers included. We had to clean them ourselves.
When I worked at at Cedar Point one summer, we had shared showers, but because I’m nearsighted like Joyce I probably missed any grossness.
For the most part they weren’t that bad at my college, but even so I still always wore sandals when using the dorm showers, because even when the showers are cleaned often you never know what stuff people might have on their bare feet that you don’t want spreading to your feet while showering.
You can minimize the risk by just not immediately putting shoes on afterward. You’re better off with sandals at most until your feet are as dry as your hands normally are. Whatever you pick up will thrive if you marinate in it, so don’t give it a chance.
You don’t have to go full Sierra, but she’s on to something. Modern shoes (especially thick, cushion-y foam soled plastic sneakers) are actually kinda bad from an overall health perspective.
The building heating system was such that for the people at the end of the hall to get any heat at all, rooms near the middle had to have their windows open all winter to keep from being way too hot. And the common bathroom was in the center.
Since this was a classic ivy covered dorm, squirrels would build nests in the ivy out of stolen toilet paper, since they could get in the always open windows…
(The lumps of toilet paper did detract from the classic ivy covered dorm look, yeah.)
I met an old guy one time who was surfing with prescription dark goggles. Said they were the best bit of surfing kit he had even had. (And he had neoprene tabi, paddle mitts, and a neoprene bucket hat with a velcro chin-strap. And knee-protectors. Guy was serious about his surfing.)
Mayhap one of those pornographic short story comics can be Joyce in the shower. Y’know, washing her butt. Maybe peeing, although I can’t imagine Joyce peeing in the shower, she seems like the type where the most she’d do is fart. People would pay for it though. To quote the Magnetic Fields, “Everybody’s somebody’s fetish.”
I sharted in our barracks shower once (morning after a big night) I did clean it up though and by clean I mean I let the shower run until it was all gone
Yeah, I was trying to do an “arson, murder, and jaywalking” bury-the-lede kind of joke with my reply. The whole rest of it was “what the fuck”, not just the peeing-in-the-shower part.
Almost said “everyone sane pees in the shower” but that’s not quite fair, just having a weird hangups doesn’t mean you’re insane. Everyone without weird hangups pees in the shower. How about that then? (Oh, and, assuming they have a shower, don’t wanna be all assuming everyone lives in an industrial society.)
JOYCE: “Now I can see the world in all its nuance, colour and beauty. Unfortunately, this only means I can just how icky and yucky being a human really is!”
At least she’s not likely to use up all the hot water in a building-size boiler system.
A 50-gallon residential water heater though? Take too long and it might run out before someone runs out of patience and shuts the supply off, leaving you with just cold.
Shower floors being gross wasn’t even the main reason I didn’t wear my glasses when showering in college. The main reason I don’t wear glasses when showering is because water gets on them and you can’t see as well through water-covered glasses.
Ok i know everyone has already explained why “dont wear glasses to shower” is a thing; however I would like to add some information in case someone is curious
Hot Bath: depends on whether you are doing to put your head under water, and if I really want to relax I will take my glasses off
Going swimming: Pool, take off glasses, in lake/sea, nah, I can keep my head above water and enjoy the scenery
Hair salon; ask them beforehand if you need to take them off, usually I take them off for getting my hair washed/eyebrows dyed/drying hair because they get in the way and my eyes are closed anyway.
In the winter, I HAVE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT THERE IS A SPRAY to avoid getting steam on your lenses when you step into a building after being outside/while wearing a mask anywhere. Its not very expensive and will save you time and embarrassment.
I take my glasses off in the shower, but I usually keep them on in the swimming pool. Or I did; I haven’t been swimming for years. I am short sighted enough that without them, I can’t entirely judge where the edge of the pool is when I’m getting in. There were incidents.
Also, you know that thing in swimming class where you have to retrieve something from the bottom of the pool? I was really good at that, since I practiced it at least twice every time I went swimming…
I just take mine off when I walk into the office after being out in the cold. If I don’t, I’m completely blind because they’re still dark from being outside and they fog up right away. After a couple minutes, neither of those is a problem anymore.
I’ve been wearing glasses since I was like 9. I still go take showers with them on, for it helps not only shaving but it reminds me to wash them (something that I don’t do in other scenarios).
(cue violently uproarious laughter from crotchety old bastard) Oh kid, you got a lot to learn. wait until you are showering standing on a pallet, afraid to touch the knob because you’ll get a shock, there is no heat and you get a coating of sand when you get outside the shower.
Plus, there is just a trickle of the ice-cold water, so you have to contort yourself under it. (False teeth falling to the floor due to uproarious laughter)
I had never in my life accidentally worn my glasses in the shower until I moved to this apartment. We have one of those bathtub showers and the shower head is really low, so it’s only as if some of it is the shower. Thank goodness we have the sink right next to the shower, I just took them off an put them on there, but I felt so stupid for a hot minute.
Poor Joyce. It could be water from the shower, but it looks like she’s crying in the first couple of panels, that sort of blank faced dead inside crying when reality catches up.
I realize cleaning the showers isn’t the students’ responsibility, but they ARE living here for 2/3 of a year.
This is a resolvable problem you can solve with a stiff brush (ideally on a long handle) and… hmm… what cleaning chemical would be best here? Degreaser? Dish detergent would be adequate, but I feel like something else would be more effective.
Whatever. The point is, for under $50 and 30 seconds of of pre-shower “elbow grease” you can bath in a clean shower ever day. Leave the cleaning stuff in the shower and others might follow your lead, and a next time, perhaps you’re lucky enough to step into shower someone else already cleaned.
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a rookie mistake
wanting to see things
yeah i realized that a while back and now i am three years glasses-free
Shut your eyes until reality gives up and goes away.
Or just go the full Pyrrho and don’t accept anything you can’t be certain of, which includes everything. (It might help to have acolytes to gently guide you away from cliffs, wild animals etc.)
But then I’d need acolytes to gently guide me away from my acolytes, and that would quickly spiral out of control.
What *I* want to know is how the hell Ruth knows Joyce is wearing her glasses in there.
She’s commenting on the shower grime, which she couldn’t see before because she went from 480p to 4k.
Wouldn’t the glasses get all steamy?
Unless Joyce takes cold showers, to ward away the Hanky Panky Thoughts.
If they get wet, they don’t get steamy, just droplets all over.
Steam goes away pretty quickly. It’s water drying on them and making blotches that’s a bigger problem.
Probably, but it looks like she only just started.
At first they are steamy, then the steam is washed away, leaving a bunch of water droplets that make seeing clearly difficult (which is why cars have windshield wipers). Trying to clear the droplets with fingers simply rearranges the water. Even if your head isn’t in the shower stream, water from your hair will get on the lenses. Given the mildness of Joyce’s myopia, she’d have better vision in the shower without the glasses.
Yeah, I’d say it depends on how bad exactly one’s myopia is. My eyesight is TERRIBLE. If I didn’t wear my glasses into the shower, the entire shower apparatus would look like a silver blob. Even so, I don’t keep them on the ENTIRE time. I mainly bring them in to wash them (gets rid of any sweat/oil/dirt that might have gotten on the lenses during the day), then take them off during lathering/showering, then pop them back on once I’m done.
“mildness” Dude she couldn’t tell that a statue was anything other than a black splotch
the hell kind of spiffed up rinky dink sav sucking schools are you going to with hot showers?? In my day you were lucky if you had 2 minutes of water that wasnt cold a witches tit *shakes cane*
I had a hot, clean shower every day when I was in college.
I commuted.
I lived in off-campus slum-lord apartments, sub-divided homes used as rental income for, um, slum lords. They weren’t fancy, but they all had hot water on demand.
iu has an old, but VERY ROBUST network of steam lines. even the old, unrenovated dorms with no AC have hot water for hours
Yeaaaah dorm showers… gross
I don’t remember how I handled dorm showers. Or, shared dorm showers. The non-freshman dorms had a shower in the shared bath, or at least the one I had did. Prob I just walked to the shared shower without glasses, since I can barely sort of see enough to not hit everything in my way.
I never went into the dorm showers without flip flops on
Doesn’t matter how nasty the showers are if your feet don’t touch the floor
Yes, shower shoes were a must there.
Omg Joyce is extra cute. 😭
Yeah, that wet-hair look is pretty cute on her.
It… reminds me of Shortpacked!Amber, actually.
Really does
She looks like a wet puppy
ngl really is
The glasses definitely make her cuter.
But the mega-frown negates it somewhat. She’s much cuter with the white triangle.
I couldn’t help but read that in Rocko’s voice.
Now I kinda want a Slipshine, just of Joyce taking a shower with eyeglasses on and choosing her footing very, very carefully.
Anxious caution is SO HOT
Joyce has always know the showers were filthy. Remember when she tried to make her own shower shoes out of the bottoms of plastic milk jugs?
Yeah, what happened to the ones Carla made for her?
She still has them, Carla makes good stuff that lasts.
And the jug parts were removable for easy replacement, IIRC.
… is this a slipping in the shower will shine the floor joke…
*plays Rose Royce’s “Car Wash” on the hacked Muzak*
On the plus side, now she can properly admire the jug shows Carla made. She is a goddess and I am a pitiful bug!
Jug shoes. The shower shoes for the feet to protect against the floor
Carlas jug shows became the stuff of legends
They were cold, swift, and absolutely ridiculous.
Today’s Joyce & Walky is definitely a jug show.
and a fine one at that
Ooh, I want the Carla jug show.
Now she can properly admire Carla’s superior engineering.
Don’t think too much, Joyce. Look up!
Bold of you to assume that she will like the view of the ceiling any better.
Damn straight!
What Ruth said; how do you wash your face with them on?
you don’t need to see to lather and wash…there’s no point, unless you like soap in your eyes
Joyce, just . . . don’t wear those in there.
But, the optometrist said is was important for her to wear them all the time to get used to them and she is that hungry for authority figures to blindly listen to.
huh. I like Joyce’s hair enough normally but without being pulled back over her ears it’s nicer.
basically she has quality barbarian hair and should lean into it.
So much this. Also barbarian hair suits her new *constantly pissy* style
Am I going to have to google barbarian hair?
awwwww. It’s the little things, like Becky waiting in line for the shower stall with her towel and little basket that really hits home that she’s a student now. She belongs. She’s allowed to be there.
They only clean the showers once every three months? I’m sorry but that has to be a weekly thing or I’m driving all the way back home to shower!
Maybe they get a professional cleaning company to do it every few months and the students are supposed to keep it clean in between. That would about yield the results we’ve seen so far.
***daily, they cleaned out bathrooms every day and idk how people would function otherwise
I wash my bathroom whenever I can’t stand it anymore or I’m expecting company. (It’s just me and I’m basically a hermit, so that doesn’t happen too often.)
Becky thinks the showers were cleaned over break?
In an early strip, Ruth was telling someone it was a good time to take a shower because the facilities had just been cleaned. I’m sure they don’t stay clean very long
people who lived in dorms, was it that bad? When I moved out I went into off campus housing (the campus I chose didn’t have housing, but others I considered did and I did not want to do dorms either way).
*was the sanitation of the showers in dorms where they were communal that bad?
The showers were fine where I went to school (Marshall U).
The showers were fine in both the student residences I lived in, one at UNSW and one at ANU. Staff mopped them every day and bleached them every week.
Even if the showers were cleaned daily, after a few dozen people had used them in the morning the hair and other grunge that would collect around the drain could be rather off-putting. Maybe that’s why Carla showered in the evening; she knew when the custodians came through and made sure she was one of the first ones in after they had been serviced and freshened again.
They were fine.
But I went to Caltech, which had money. Bathrooms were probably cleaned every day, though I’m not sure, and my hallways would have had like 6 people for 2 stalls.
Also they came and cleaned our dorm rooms every two weeks. Not moving your stuff around but vacuuming and emptying the trash cans and maybe taking obvious trash, I wouldn’t know because I wasn’t a slob who left soda cans lying around.
We had 4-room suites with showers included. We had to clean them ourselves.
When I worked at at Cedar Point one summer, we had shared showers, but because I’m nearsighted like Joyce I probably missed any grossness.
For the most part they weren’t that bad at my college, but even so I still always wore sandals when using the dorm showers, because even when the showers are cleaned often you never know what stuff people might have on their bare feet that you don’t want spreading to your feet while showering.
You can minimize the risk by just not immediately putting shoes on afterward. You’re better off with sandals at most until your feet are as dry as your hands normally are. Whatever you pick up will thrive if you marinate in it, so don’t give it a chance.
You don’t have to go full Sierra, but she’s on to something. Modern shoes (especially thick, cushion-y foam soled plastic sneakers) are actually kinda bad from an overall health perspective.
Aside from a puddle of piss being left in front of the middle stall for days, the sanitation was weirdly fine for me
The showers in my college were fine, except for the squirrels.
The building heating system was such that for the people at the end of the hall to get any heat at all, rooms near the middle had to have their windows open all winter to keep from being way too hot. And the common bathroom was in the center.
Since this was a classic ivy covered dorm, squirrels would build nests in the ivy out of stolen toilet paper, since they could get in the always open windows…
(The lumps of toilet paper did detract from the classic ivy covered dorm look, yeah.)
Huh. When I forget to take of my glasses, I’m basically blind instantly. They fog up and get wet. I actually see more without glasses in the shower.
Also don’t wear your glasses when swimming.
That’s why I never made it as a lifeguard. Couldn’t see far enough without ’em, and couldn’t swim with ’em.
Prescription goggles?
I met an old guy one time who was surfing with prescription dark goggles. Said they were the best bit of surfing kit he had even had. (And he had neoprene tabi, paddle mitts, and a neoprene bucket hat with a velcro chin-strap. And knee-protectors. Guy was serious about his surfing.)
Oh nooooooo. Oh sweetie. I feel bad laughing, but I am. XD
I like that she is starting to notice things.
And Joyce does not like it. Sarah was right it seems, happiness IS a zero-sum game.
Lasik+ ad on the side. Synergy!
What has been seen cannot be unseen.
Mayhap one of those pornographic short story comics can be Joyce in the shower. Y’know, washing her butt. Maybe peeing, although I can’t imagine Joyce peeing in the shower, she seems like the type where the most she’d do is fart. People would pay for it though. To quote the Magnetic Fields, “Everybody’s somebody’s fetish.”
Dude what the fuck.
Don’t pee in the shower.
Everyone pees in the shower
I sharted in our barracks shower once (morning after a big night) I did clean it up though and by clean I mean I let the shower run until it was all gone
No, no they do not, and I doubt Willis is gonna start doing random fetish comics.
Yeah, I was trying to do an “arson, murder, and jaywalking” bury-the-lede kind of joke with my reply. The whole rest of it was “what the fuck”, not just the peeing-in-the-shower part.
Yeah, I get it.
Almost said “everyone sane pees in the shower” but that’s not quite fair, just having a weird hangups doesn’t mean you’re insane. Everyone without weird hangups pees in the shower. How about that then? (Oh, and, assuming they have a shower, don’t wanna be all assuming everyone lives in an industrial society.)
I never get tired of “communal showers are gross” comics.
I finally had my glasses prescription updated for the first time in like 7 years and the first day I was like “when did everything get so dirty????”
Wait, did Ruth dye her hair? Or is that just a lighting effect?
It’s darker because it’s wet, like Joyce’s.
JOYCE: “Now I can see the world in all its nuance, colour and beauty. Unfortunately, this only means I can just how icky and yucky being a human really is!”
I like how Joyce is just standing in the shower in the first panel. Not scrubbing or anything. While people wait in line outside.
At least she’s not likely to use up all the hot water in a building-size boiler system.
A 50-gallon residential water heater though? Take too long and it might run out before someone runs out of patience and shuts the supply off, leaving you with just cold.
Shower floors being gross wasn’t even the main reason I didn’t wear my glasses when showering in college. The main reason I don’t wear glasses when showering is because water gets on them and you can’t see as well through water-covered glasses.
Ok i know everyone has already explained why “dont wear glasses to shower” is a thing; however I would like to add some information in case someone is curious
Hot Bath: depends on whether you are doing to put your head under water, and if I really want to relax I will take my glasses off
Going swimming: Pool, take off glasses, in lake/sea, nah, I can keep my head above water and enjoy the scenery
Hair salon; ask them beforehand if you need to take them off, usually I take them off for getting my hair washed/eyebrows dyed/drying hair because they get in the way and my eyes are closed anyway.
In the winter, I HAVE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT THERE IS A SPRAY to avoid getting steam on your lenses when you step into a building after being outside/while wearing a mask anywhere. Its not very expensive and will save you time and embarrassment.
I take my glasses off in the shower, but I usually keep them on in the swimming pool. Or I did; I haven’t been swimming for years. I am short sighted enough that without them, I can’t entirely judge where the edge of the pool is when I’m getting in. There were incidents.
Also, you know that thing in swimming class where you have to retrieve something from the bottom of the pool? I was really good at that, since I practiced it at least twice every time I went swimming…
I just take mine off when I walk into the office after being out in the cold. If I don’t, I’m completely blind because they’re still dark from being outside and they fog up right away. After a couple minutes, neither of those is a problem anymore.
“I can see clearly now, the rain is gone!”….. aaaahhhhhhhhhh
I can see clearly now, the drain is clogged.
I can see all the detritus, in my way,….
I’ve been wearing glasses since I was like 9. I still go take showers with them on, for it helps not only shaving but it reminds me to wash them (something that I don’t do in other scenarios).
scream internally
Nah, Ruth’s right, never wear your glasses in the shower, least of all for this reason.
(cue violently uproarious laughter from crotchety old bastard) Oh kid, you got a lot to learn. wait until you are showering standing on a pallet, afraid to touch the knob because you’ll get a shock, there is no heat and you get a coating of sand when you get outside the shower.
Thank you for your service? Sounds like my sons’ stories from Iraq.
Plus, there is just a trickle of the ice-cold water, so you have to contort yourself under it. (False teeth falling to the floor due to uproarious laughter)
How else are you supposed to keep them clean, Ruth?
/s
I don’t get this.
I google image searched “dorm shower floors” even and I didn’t see anything that’d warrant such a horror.
One of the related searches was athletes foot though.
But you allow your foods to touch (h/t sultryglebe)
Filth is relative, I’d say.
Which reminds me I need to clean the bathroom…
Joyce should simply stop clean herself. Then, she gradually would start to feel more and more comfortable with the filth.
How could you see anything while wearing your glasses in the shower?! They’d fog up immediately!
Joyce is a cold shower girl. Keeps the impure thoughts away.
They don’t, perhaps because they get covered by a complete film of water, and perhaps because the lenses warm up to the same temperature as the air.
You do get drops on them, though. It’s more like wearing glasses in rain than like leaning over the dishwasher when you have just opened it.
Clarity brings joy to no one.
The eyebrow has taken flight.
nice spot! i totally didn’t get the little mustache halo joyce has going on in panel 3
Can she see better with wet glasses than no glasses at all?
Don’t worry Joyce, soon they’ll fog up and you won’t have to see anything at all!
I had never in my life accidentally worn my glasses in the shower until I moved to this apartment. We have one of those bathtub showers and the shower head is really low, so it’s only as if some of it is the shower. Thank goodness we have the sink right next to the shower, I just took them off an put them on there, but I felt so stupid for a hot minute.
Poor Joyce. It could be water from the shower, but it looks like she’s crying in the first couple of panels, that sort of blank faced dead inside crying when reality catches up.
Is this technically the first time we’ve seen Joyce naked? (I get this isn’t a *meaningful* display of nudity….)
No, we have seen her in the shower before.
Appropriate gravatar is appropriate. Becky’s trying her hardest to not think about the fact that there’s a naked Joyce on the other side of that door…
If using a public shower, NEVER look too closely at the walls. Or ceiling. Or showerhead. Or floor. Or drain.
And always ALWAYS for the love of all that is holy and good wear your shower shoes.
I realize cleaning the showers isn’t the students’ responsibility, but they ARE living here for 2/3 of a year.
This is a resolvable problem you can solve with a stiff brush (ideally on a long handle) and… hmm… what cleaning chemical would be best here? Degreaser? Dish detergent would be adequate, but I feel like something else would be more effective.
Whatever. The point is, for under $50 and 30 seconds of of pre-shower “elbow grease” you can bath in a clean shower ever day. Leave the cleaning stuff in the shower and others might follow your lead, and a next time, perhaps you’re lucky enough to step into shower someone else already cleaned.