Becky’s strategy of hiding something that you think is weird by distracting them with something even more weird is sound as far as it goes.
The chances of this working for Joyce, however, is just about nill and the glasses currently on her face will not survive a look in the mirror.
Becky’s thought processes relating to the divorce are cynical, possibly not altogether serious, but also undoubtedly shaped from being a strong-willed person used to expressing herself in a repressive environment where she had to go over under around and through in order exert any control or influence on her situation.
Also totally been there on the insurance thing. Nothing sucks more than picking out frames only to learn you can only really choose from like one rack. One thing they don’t tell you about glasses and that they can be stupidly expensive for no justifiable reason at least to me.
Glasses like a lot of things are also a sort of fashion accessory so you’re really not paying for the function but the design. And of course like any accessory they can put stupid stuff in it like gold or LED’s. Lenses don’t escape it either. Everything from scratch proof, to those transition lenses that are also sunglasses or bifocals or any focals effect the price. It’s a whole industry. Google even tried to do glasses once. I wonder whatever happened to that? It was news for like a week then kinda vanished.
Google Glass is an attempt at Augmented Reality. it’s still available for Enterprise solutions, but as far as I know, the Commercial release was permanently sidelined due to privacy concerns. To wit: People beating Glass users on the street because they thought the user was recording and felt their right to privacy extended to destroying any recording equipment they could see, even if it wasn’t in recording mode.
In fairness, a decent number of Glasses users were being super-obnoxious about their right to record everything they could see, regardless of whether uncomfortable they were making other people.
Violence might be taking things too far, but building a camera into something that can’t easily be put away without significantly inconveniencing the user was a terrible idea, unless the idea is to ensure a certain set of people get to take creepshots without anyone being able to tell them to knock it off.
On the street (actually, anywhere beside a private home and/or business) you don’t *have* a right to privacy.
That aside, those glasses are hideous.
Also, fun fact: glasses frames are actually dirt cheap to manufacture. The reason they’re so expensive is that one conglomerate, Luxottica, owns pretty much every goddamned eyewear company in the world, particularly in the US.
Pearl Vision too expensive, so you head over to Lenscrafters? Haha, fuck you, Luxottica owns them both. So go to the internet. Glasses.com? Nice try–it’s Luxottica. Screw it, head over to Target for glasses? Suck it–Luxxotica again!
And it’s still rude to go around bars recording things you think might be amusing without the consent of the people present, even if it’s technically legal. Nor is appropriate to follow people you think are attractive in hopes of getting a better picture of them.
If those glasses were to ever go mainstream, we would absolutely need to to revisit legislation regarding the circumstances under which you can record things, because most of our society isn’t built around the idea that you’re being recorded 24/7, and nobody wants their entire life defined by a clip that went viral one time.
I mean, some people did overreact, certainly – but there were an uncomfortable number of people refusing to acknowledge that you really should stop recording when other people ask you to.
This is not necessarily true around the world. In Germany you very much have a right to your own picture even if you are in a public place. People can take a photo of something if you are on the photo but not the center of attention, people can not take a photo that clearly has you as the object of attention without your permission. Even Dashcams are borderline illegal here.
Since Google would want to supply customers around the world, the Google Glass was just a bad idea.
Personally I think that it is a good thing for society if people can tell if someone is recording and that any equipment, that lets you record other people without any obvious sign that you do, is breaking an unwritten societal code of conduct.
Hmm, I ended up going online to find “Harry Potter” prescription ready frames (for an Adrian Seidelman cosplay, actually) and they were dirt cheap while still being pretty decent quality. Can’t try them on until they come in the mail, though! 🤷
For the record: The idea was you could have, like, schematics overlaid, or a HUD for walking directions. The camera on the modern Enterprise version has its fixed focus set at 0.6m, or just barely at arm’s length, and engages a green LED to indicate when it’s recording. Presumably, these were changes to discourage the taking of “creepshots”.
And you shouldn’t have to pay $300 for a pair of sneakers, and cell phones shouldn’t cost $800 or more. But so long as people are willing to shell out that sort of money, Nike and Apple will keep pricing them that high.
Bruh that’s the realest, I was an optician, they marked up those frames by like 250% what they cost to buy from the manufacturer, and since Luxoticca (Oakley, Ralph Lauren, Ray-Ban, and other brands) corner a huge piece of that market they set the manufacturer cost super high anyways and other brands match that cost. Most frames, even “luxury” frames, are basically the same acetate material as the ones that are fully covered by like, Medicaid. Just a little prettier. Splurge on lenses if your eyes are pretty messed up, but I will never buy frames from an optical clinic again.
Please recognize the stockholm syndrome of expensive healthcare. Purchasing online glasses is a freeing experience. I can vouch for Zenni being a legitimate business.
Mostly they are. Sometimes not, but the number of times I’ve wound up with a bad pair matches my rate of issues with the expensive ones from the stores. It’s just that I can afford to buy glasses a lot more frequently these days because of online sites.
My kids need glasses, and I buy two pairs at a time so when they break one I’ve got a spare on hand, and it’s still much cheaper than buying one pair at the optician/optical store.
the issue with it is in comfort and how they affect your vision beyond correction: you buy them online but you don’t know how they fit on your face or how they are around your periphery. It’s “cheaper” but you might actually be spending money on something that you can’t wear because they don’t fit!
That’s why glasses websites give exact measurements and have tutorials on how to measure your face. You end up getting ones that fit better that what you get in person
Another optician hack – most places will adjust frames even if you’ve never bought glasses from them, they just might make you sign a form saying they can’t replace them if they break during adjustment. I stan Zenni.
I’ve never been able to order a set of frames online. My prescription is so strong the frames have to be custom made. Apparently a jail somewhere on the east coast according to my optometrist.
Frames are expensive because, just like diamonds, ONE company has bought out all the other companies or used their leverage to bully optometrists so they won’t offer the cheaper options. It’s disgusting. The best pair of frames I ever had was a $30 pair I bought in South Korea in the 1980s. Just kept replacing the lenses as needed. I was so pissed when I lost them in an car accident in 2013.
I know what you mean. My mom got an eye exam and they made her buy glasses from them on her insurance (which cost the insurance company something like $600). I get my glasses from Zenni Optical (search Google). This isn’t an ad, but I feel like people should know about this. My frames were like $7 and the prescription itself only cost about $24 or so, and with shipping it came up to $38. It came with UV protection, blue-blocker, scratch resistance and a hydrophobic coating for easy cleaning. You can also get transition lenses for like $40 more. Whenever I talk to anyone about their glasses, they keep saying that they could have bought the same pair for about $300 or something ridiculous like that.
Why in the world are you all relying on insurance for glasses? o_O I’ve always paid for those out of pocket. It’s no different from buying a phone or a computer for me.
Even more people just barely getting by than normal. I can plunk down a couple of thousand for a computer now and not think a lot about it, but for most of my life that simply wasn’t true. When people are in college or just out, the budget doesn’t stretch that far.
Insurance should cover large, unpredictable expenses. Routine, easily predicted expenses should be paid out of pocket. You know you need an eye exam every year, so it should be part of your regular budget. Paying through insurance just adds a layer of administration and reduces the incentive to shop around for the best value. Both of these factors drive up costs.
yeah, you don’t get to decide what people “should” do with their expenses. you don’t know any of us, our lives, or our financial situations.
also, as people have said, shopping around isn’t an option for specialized prescriptions. stop blaming consumers for shitty situations created by corporations.
“Reduces the incentive to shop around for the best value”. There shouldn’t be a need to shop around for the best value. And it’s nothing like buying a computer or phone, where the prices are very clearly posted, and not hidden behind some byzantine bait-and-switch. And also doing so while its difficult to see small print, because you’re looking for an actual medical device, not a gaming platform.
The problem with that approach with healthcare in particular is that it disincentivizes people from getting that routine preventative care, since they have to pay out of pocket.
This leads to things not getting caught early or prevented entirely and thus costs much more overall than covering the routine care does.
And in this case in particular it makes no sense at all – we’re talking about buying glasses, not the exam. Should Joyce have budgeted for glasses when she didn’t even know she had vision problems? On a college student’s budget?
No kidding! I was shocked at how much more expensive my lenses got when he doc switched me from single prescription to Progressive lenses. (modern form on bi-focals) OUCH.
Oh man, there’s a great Adam Ruins Everything episode that goes into how a single company owns 80% of the eyewear industry and essentially sets the prices.
(Snopes points out there’s not enough evidence to be sure of the 80% number but that the company does own a massive chunk of the market)
Yep. I haven’t seen that ep (but Adam has good vids) but I knew about the monoply. Eyeglass Frame prices are artificially inflated just like the price of diamonds and insulin.
Shortly before I ETS’d in 1992, they started offering TWO frame options: the classic black “nerd”/”birth control” frames, OR the same thing but in BROWN! 😀
If one’s partner is aiming there, I don’t think one needs to worry about birth control. Severe stinging, perhaps. I suppose the glasses might help shield one from that at least.
This is by folks who have, for one reason or another, agreed to commit egregious violence on behalf of (and only on the orders of) their government in exchange for pay. That is what I had to agree to at least, and I imagine their contract isn’t too different. Bleak, dark humor, like your own blood drying on the windswept rocks of a desolate island, kind of goes hand in hand with the job description.
Both of those names also go back decades. Probably to the 60s for the BCG. A much less sensitive time.
They were officially “RPG” for “Regulation Prescription Glasses” at one point and with the Birth Control joke already around the rape version was basically inevitable.
@brionl
Yeah, I got that. And I decided to reply with a joke where I took that moderately crass and entirely inaccurate term to its logical conclusion. Because that’s what I like doing.
Making jokes about sex acts, I mean. I don’t think anyone likes getting jizz in their eyes.
It’s all about ordering them online! There’s zenni, glassesusa, and many more, where you’ll get the entire thing that you put on your face (frames, lenses, coatings, shipping) for $70 or less.
What the hell Becky?! Joyce’s eye’s are gorgeous and expressive. Why would you denigrate her like that or _ever_ attempt to distract from them? I thought you were her friend!?
Besides that, Joyce loves sweatervests! (Or at least she did last season/semester.) Calling Dorothy’s reserved frame choice “the sweatervest of glasses” isn’t exactly damning.
(Unless that’s her way of approving the suggestion her “nEmEsIs” made… I liked those on Joyce so I’ll go with that theory.)
i feel like this is going to get me ostracized, but does… joyce look more like her mother lately? i saw the freshman fifteen in the sapphic claus comic, and now i can’t unsee it.
Every character’s design changed significantly, except perhaps Amber, and all of the characters changed toward a more uniform style.
Whether that was a conscious decision meant to reflect changes in the individuals, or an art style change to reflect the update alongside the time-skip, is unclear.
A tale as old as time. Mom buys scooter with Dad’s credit card, Dad buys ping-pong table with Mom’s credit card, son builds hover-scooter wkth said scooter and ping-pong table.
No, it was mentioned a while ago — I forget the context, but Joyce was listing all the things that were changing, including “Mike is dead” and “my parents are getting divorced”.
Hank will soon struggle with divorce addiction. He’ll find an online community all about it and finally find his true niche. Something like “r/divorcehighscores”, or maybe speedrun dot com.
is “divorcehighscores” a real thing? judging by the joy that suffused me when i read the name, i think it may be my true niche, but el-Goog fails to locate it for me.
Okay, if Dad is “swimmin in shame”, then that makes me think he’s not the one that initiated it… and it sounds like he’s the one that had to move out, so when Joyce has to go home… it’s to her mother. (That’s not good.)
she’s 18, possibly 19 depending on her birthday. she can go wherever she wants when school’s out of session. so probably her dad’s, possibly one of her siblings’ houses.
By “one of her siblings,” you mean Jocelyne, right? I don’t know what’s going on with John, but I doubt Joyce wants to find what his life’s like any more than he wants her near him. Jordan…Well, it depends on what Jordan being Jordan entails….
My read is that he’s ashamed of staying in a church (and marriage) that was so bent on hate and shaming for so long that h was complicit in the damage it’s done to his children.
Yep. Flawed as he is, Hank was not going to stand for this. He clearly has the both the ability and the wish to become a better person, but he knowingly let things last for way longer than they should have.
That’s my read, too. He’s probably reflecting on all the “little things” he let slide over the years, and the contrast between the way John and Joyce were raised.
Yes-and, Hank’s personal brand of Christianity may frown on divorce. He might think he’s failing his kids, and failing his marriage, to have chosen to divorce his wife. He vowed til death do them part, and he’s ashamed to be breaking his vows (even though he’s breaking them for a super ironclad reason. Shame doesn’t tend to listen to reasons).
Judging by early-Joyce’s views on marriage, Hank likely thinks he has the religious duty to provide for his wife and be the head of the household and make their decisions. He failed to control Carol, and he’s not fulfilling his “God-appointed” role.
In some communities, people stay in their dysfunctional marriages forever, or else they can’t stay in the community… so he may not have any divorced friends or relatives at all.
Even if he successfully rejects ALL of this cultural programming, this is not how he imagined his marriage going. It’s sad, he’s sad.
I hope so too, but he’s accustomed to being with his wife nearly all the time. Even if his adult kids are calling him and coming over for lunch occasionally, that’s not the same as living together with a partner.
It’s not like Carol can’t keep herself occupied for the rest of her days making excuses for the remaining members of her church, anyway.
I’m still curious about how much of what John told his family about his fiance is true, as he has yet to introduce her to his parents yet she serves as a frequent excuse for not having time to see his family…And Jordan. All we have on him is a name drop and message board speculation about his alt-right internet agenda…
What “works” – for now, and certain values of – for Becky is not really Joyce’s style. She’s not the sort who goes around being loud and wacky to try to hide her insecurity.
Divorce was mentioned in the list of changes Joyce was ranting about.
Hank could feel ashamed of his soon to be ex wife, of not being able to make it work, of her choices, of his or his not seeing the extremes earlier. So he still may be the one to initiate the divorce. Besides, shame is an emotion, and those aren’t rational.
Becky is, indeed, less and less likeable after the timeslip. But then, so are most of the characters. I don’t know what happened, but they are mostly rubbing me the wrong way now.
Honestly, Hank is probably ashamed of all of the things you mentioned and more. A failed marriage, especially with a partner like Carol, is a whole can of worms, and then sprinkle on Hank’s religious leanings paired with the literal trauma of your child being abducted… I really wonder, how religious Hank would have ended up if he hadn’t paired off with Carol?
Also, yeah, I am all Becky-ed out. She was never my favorite character, but she is downright insufferable right now. I see how this is supposed to be her expressing insecurity, but I really wish we could get her in smaller doses right now.
So, I totally support Joyce getting glasses that she, personally, feels comfortable with and will enjoy, but…
Those glasses, specifically, are hideous. She doesn’t need to get the cute glasses from before, but hopefully she’ll look for something that’s less of a “pre-emptive strike”.
As off as these are, I think they’re closer to Joyce than the ones Dotty chose. Slightly more toned down colour and less dramatic ovals and catseye, but similar size lenses and face placement (other than the upper tips of those ovals) and I think it would be a good look that while obviously glasses would still show her eyes nicely.
If she does want unobtrusive ones still though, I wouldn’t go with wire drame like dorothy chose. I’d go with half frames (preferably on the upper half) and a neutral colour
What’s that about weirdly-shaped eyeballs? This “Joyce is uncomfortable changing her image” conversation sure took a swerve in a direction I wasn’t expecting
to some extent, it’s literally true – the shape of her eyeballs varies from the norm, which causes her to be nearsighted.
however, Becky has a history of trolling and provoking her “best friend” in order to get “amusing” reactions out of her. it’s something that Joyce seems to tolerate and/or accept, but I’ve never been happy about it.
(and that’s someone Becky likes.)
Becky why do you make me personally uncomfortable with such ease these days D: Joyce isn’t having a good time. Pushing on her these frames she’s obviously not going to like, with this phrasing, and following it up with a divorce punchline doesn’t feel ok.
This whole arc is so weird. Like “oh no I don’t wanna get glasses” is an episode of Arthur I remember, and that show is for 4th graders. I get that she’s averse to change but Joyce is not acting her age to a wild extent.
It’s not even really about the glasses. Besides, not every plot can be about serious issues or we get numbed to it. Yeah, she’s being immature about getting glasses, but it’s not a big deal.
I like Becky’s rationale here a lot more than I like her implementation
Unless her actual plan was to present Joyce with glasses so hideous and off-putting that Dorothy’s suggestion would seem a lot more reasonable by comparison
Oh thank God Becky’s being truly helpful again. I hope this won’t be the chosen frame but I am glad that she’s using her influence on Joyce for the right thing. Well… when I say right… I mean… um… extorting money from Joyce’s dad… yet… somehow… I’m okay with that. A little. Anything to make it easier for Joyce to get the right frames she can be pleased with.
I like how both Dorothy and Becky each picked out glasses that they themselves would clearly wear (these are def the Becky-est of glasses). XD
Joyce has gotta find some Joyce glasses!
Don’t feel bad. It’s my view that the comments section is what each reader thinks and in no way is it limited to ‘original or new responses’. So long as you don’t start asking questions that have been answered a dozen times or something.
Order online! So long as you have your prescription, about the only thing you need that isn’t always on there is your pupillary distance – and you can usually get that in a store, then say you want to shop around and leave (trickier during pandemic – I used the ruler+mirror method)
Loads cheaper. LOADS. I picked up one set with all the fixins (super-thin, all the various coatings), a cheap spare, and a pair of prescription safety glasses for roughly what I would have paid in-store for a single pair.
Though I have heard this can be trickier if your prescription is VERY strong.
And for Joyce it will delay the inevitable for a couple weeks due to processing+shipping times.
Yeah I have a few spare pairs of much cheaper glasses I got online and they never seem to fit quite right compared to the ones I get at my optometrist. Maybe depends on the prescription (my vision is moderately bad + astigmatism) or face size/shape? I have uneven ears and a small face so the optometrist always has to do a ton of manual adjustment to my frames to get them to sit right.
I am envious of people who can easily order additional pairs online!
Are you serious? Since the beginning. Since she went with her Dad, who had a gun, and was gonna drive her to some conversion camp, or kill her or whatever. She cares about Joyce very much, but I also get that it might be hard for her to get attached right now, after her Dad died, and she basically lost everything (not neccessarily in that order). Having stability will help, and maybe therapy. Is Becky getting therapy?
Holy shit chill. She’s telling Joyce to ask her dad to pay for her glasses and making a joke out of it. Can we please stop treating becky like the antichrist
Are there other online eyeglass vendors besides Zenni Optical that anyone here has used? I’m not unhappy with Zenni or anything, but I wonder if anyone knows of and has used other options.
Helpful tip: The silicone nose pads on my glasses started to rip. Costco offers free replacement nosepads to members.
I used goggles4u and was satisfied with the results.
Disclaimer: I have pretty good vision and usually wear contacts – the plastic pair I got are fine, the metal frames I got were cheap metal frames and are obviously cheap wheel looking at them.
I’ve said it a couple of times so I hope i don’t sound like an ad lol, but glassesshop is pretty good. Cute frames, good lenses, tonnes of coupons and discounts (I’d recommend having honey installed). Only issue is their customer service isnt great and it’ll take some time to craft the lenses and ship them over (it’s shipping from china) but it’s worth it imo.
Someone correct me if I’m mistaken, but is this the first we’ve heard of divorce between Joyce’s parents? I mean, sure, the writing was on the wall, but first confirmation?
I imagine some low-key frames like Jocelyn will be chosen.
It’s a thought that occurred to me. The other option is that she selected those frames as being the polar opposite to chose chosen by Dorothy as possible.
I think they’re ones Becky would like. She doesn’t wear glasses so probably doesn’t realise that glasses you wear all the time should be pretty neutral so they go with everything (admittedly Becky might go for it even considering that) and with Joyce’s aversion to glasses she probably wants something more subtle. Maybe she should check bigger but still subtle frames, I prefer teacup shape myself (like a rounded square wider on the top than the bottom. Cat eye shapes are a bit of a statement and red as well!
Thanks to all the comments a few strips back about Chris Pratt and Parks and Recreation I started watching it (up to the 5th series) and its helped me realise what it is about Becky that aggravates me
Becky reminds me of the April Ludgate character (and the similar Brooklyn 99 character Gina Linetti) I find those characters to be mean and nasty people that somehow never get called on their actions (except very mildly) and always somehow get promoted through…reasons?
I know I’m likely wrong about this, but isn’t Becky’s “So *I’ll* call yer Dad an’ ask for the difference” similar to the boundary violation that Dorothy committed in making the eye appointment for Joyce?
Joyce, if you’re gonna spend money on expensive frames, go all out and get those frames that change shape depending on the expression you’re making, those are really cool!
… What? She lives in a comic world, Willis could totally make those a thing!
I bought some frames that were more than my insurance wod cover, and they said that I could pay the difference when they came in. My paycheck was short that month, so I didn’t go in right away. When I finally had the cash, the optometrist had died and the practice closed.
It’s been 10 years and I still haven’t gotten a new prescription
After 17 years of wearing glasses I tried contacts this year, which involved me sitting in an optometrist’s office for two hours, eyes red and leaking from both physical and emotional irritation, while I taught an increasingly embarrassed optician the startling rainbow of swearwords.
My point is… I hope Joyce is freaked out enough about glasses that she tries contacts, because it will be hilarious.
I hear there’s even this roulette people can do to change their gravatar with one easy trick, if they don’t feel like editing or uploading a custom one.
I don’t think either set of glasses fit her. You have to find your own set with personality. She isn’t her family, but she isn’t Becky either. This is a great set up to show that.
Everyone who wears glasses should make at least one horrible choice of frames at least once during their life, just to know what it’s like! I still cringe–and giggle–at pictures of me from about age twenty.
Of course, it’s probably best not to do it for your first pair, especially not if you’re uncomfortable with the whole concept of wearing glasses. But at some point.
As someone who has a lot of very loud glasses (my usuals are bright red and heart shaped), joyce, just take the prescription and get out of there and order some glasses online. they got WAY cooler lookin frames for way cheaper.
A kid every other year would only take 10 years. If he started at 30 and finished at 40 then he would be 60 when the youngest was 20. They might have started when both were around 25 and Joyce might be 19. There’s plenty of time so I’m not sure where there’s a problem.
another +1 for zenni or any of the other online places;
it’s so much obviously better and cheaper that it’s knocking me out of the story, how do these reasonably online kids not know all about it? seeing them shop for too-expensive frames right there at the optometrist seems almost unrealistic now, like they’re using a phone booth or something
i got my prescription (covered under insurance), grabbed my copy including pupil distance (which i had to ask for, it wasn’t on the form), went home and popped onto zenni, uploaded a good selfie, “tried on” like infinite frames and ordered perfectly good glasses for like $40.
hell, i ordered two more, a “reading/computer” set and a “progressive” set, also $40 each.
buying overpriced frames at the mall optometrist is like something from the last century
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cool of Joyce to just try them on anyway like they don’t make her look like a Powerpuff Girl character
She’s be a puff villain. No foods can touch ever.
There seems to be several levels to this.
Becky’s strategy of hiding something that you think is weird by distracting them with something even more weird is sound as far as it goes.
The chances of this working for Joyce, however, is just about nill and the glasses currently on her face will not survive a look in the mirror.
Becky’s thought processes relating to the divorce are cynical, possibly not altogether serious, but also undoubtedly shaped from being a strong-willed person used to expressing herself in a repressive environment where she had to go over under around and through in order exert any control or influence on her situation.
They’re like a red version of Phoebe Heyerdahl’s glasses, or maybe Amber’s.
More like a BtAS character.
Sorry Becky but those glasses do not suit Joyce at all! Personal opinion of course.
I think that’s the point.
They look like Becky drew glasses on a photo of Joyce with a red pen. … which is basically what this is.
Also totally been there on the insurance thing. Nothing sucks more than picking out frames only to learn you can only really choose from like one rack. One thing they don’t tell you about glasses and that they can be stupidly expensive for no justifiable reason at least to me.
I can respect lenses being expensive depending on the prescription.
Frames, however, should never be above $50. My uninformed opinion, of course.
Glasses like a lot of things are also a sort of fashion accessory so you’re really not paying for the function but the design. And of course like any accessory they can put stupid stuff in it like gold or LED’s. Lenses don’t escape it either. Everything from scratch proof, to those transition lenses that are also sunglasses or bifocals or any focals effect the price. It’s a whole industry. Google even tried to do glasses once. I wonder whatever happened to that? It was news for like a week then kinda vanished.
Google Glass is an attempt at Augmented Reality. it’s still available for Enterprise solutions, but as far as I know, the Commercial release was permanently sidelined due to privacy concerns. To wit: People beating Glass users on the street because they thought the user was recording and felt their right to privacy extended to destroying any recording equipment they could see, even if it wasn’t in recording mode.
In fairness, a decent number of Glasses users were being super-obnoxious about their right to record everything they could see, regardless of whether uncomfortable they were making other people.
Violence might be taking things too far, but building a camera into something that can’t easily be put away without significantly inconveniencing the user was a terrible idea, unless the idea is to ensure a certain set of people get to take creepshots without anyone being able to tell them to knock it off.
On the street (actually, anywhere beside a private home and/or business) you don’t *have* a right to privacy.
That aside, those glasses are hideous.
Also, fun fact: glasses frames are actually dirt cheap to manufacture. The reason they’re so expensive is that one conglomerate, Luxottica, owns pretty much every goddamned eyewear company in the world, particularly in the US.
Pearl Vision too expensive, so you head over to Lenscrafters? Haha, fuck you, Luxottica owns them both. So go to the internet. Glasses.com? Nice try–it’s Luxottica. Screw it, head over to Target for glasses? Suck it–Luxxotica again!
Yay for Capitalism and the illusion of choice!
And it’s still rude to go around bars recording things you think might be amusing without the consent of the people present, even if it’s technically legal. Nor is appropriate to follow people you think are attractive in hopes of getting a better picture of them.
If those glasses were to ever go mainstream, we would absolutely need to to revisit legislation regarding the circumstances under which you can record things, because most of our society isn’t built around the idea that you’re being recorded 24/7, and nobody wants their entire life defined by a clip that went viral one time.
I mean, some people did overreact, certainly – but there were an uncomfortable number of people refusing to acknowledge that you really should stop recording when other people ask you to.
This is not necessarily true around the world. In Germany you very much have a right to your own picture even if you are in a public place. People can take a photo of something if you are on the photo but not the center of attention, people can not take a photo that clearly has you as the object of attention without your permission. Even Dashcams are borderline illegal here.
Since Google would want to supply customers around the world, the Google Glass was just a bad idea.
Personally I think that it is a good thing for society if people can tell if someone is recording and that any equipment, that lets you record other people without any obvious sign that you do, is breaking an unwritten societal code of conduct.
Hmm, I ended up going online to find “Harry Potter” prescription ready frames (for an Adrian Seidelman cosplay, actually) and they were dirt cheap while still being pretty decent quality. Can’t try them on until they come in the mail, though! 🤷
For the record: The idea was you could have, like, schematics overlaid, or a HUD for walking directions. The camera on the modern Enterprise version has its fixed focus set at 0.6m, or just barely at arm’s length, and engages a green LED to indicate when it’s recording. Presumably, these were changes to discourage the taking of “creepshots”.
And you shouldn’t have to pay $300 for a pair of sneakers, and cell phones shouldn’t cost $800 or more. But so long as people are willing to shell out that sort of money, Nike and Apple will keep pricing them that high.
Yea, $300 dollars for those shoes some peasant got paid 50c to produce with $2.00 worth of materials. Sounds fair.
Bruh that’s the realest, I was an optician, they marked up those frames by like 250% what they cost to buy from the manufacturer, and since Luxoticca (Oakley, Ralph Lauren, Ray-Ban, and other brands) corner a huge piece of that market they set the manufacturer cost super high anyways and other brands match that cost. Most frames, even “luxury” frames, are basically the same acetate material as the ones that are fully covered by like, Medicaid. Just a little prettier. Splurge on lenses if your eyes are pretty messed up, but I will never buy frames from an optical clinic again.
Frames at most optometrists are mostly ~designer~. You can get glasses online for like ten bucks.
I’m so used to glasses being at least $100 that the online ones seem like a scam.
Please recognize the stockholm syndrome of expensive healthcare. Purchasing online glasses is a freeing experience. I can vouch for Zenni being a legitimate business.
But are their frames any good? I’d get a cheap spare from them to keep in the car as long as they’re sturdier than $5 drugstore readers.
Mostly they are. Sometimes not, but the number of times I’ve wound up with a bad pair matches my rate of issues with the expensive ones from the stores. It’s just that I can afford to buy glasses a lot more frequently these days because of online sites.
My kids need glasses, and I buy two pairs at a time so when they break one I’ve got a spare on hand, and it’s still much cheaper than buying one pair at the optician/optical store.
I can vouch for glassesshop. Both frames i got were sturdy despite being thin and the lenses were high quality
the issue with it is in comfort and how they affect your vision beyond correction: you buy them online but you don’t know how they fit on your face or how they are around your periphery. It’s “cheaper” but you might actually be spending money on something that you can’t wear because they don’t fit!
I’ve heard people praise finding a frame they like at a store, finding out the name/ID of it and finding those same frames online for less
That’s why glasses websites give exact measurements and have tutorials on how to measure your face. You end up getting ones that fit better that what you get in person
Another optician hack – most places will adjust frames even if you’ve never bought glasses from them, they just might make you sign a form saying they can’t replace them if they break during adjustment. I stan Zenni.
I’ve never been able to order a set of frames online. My prescription is so strong the frames have to be custom made. Apparently a jail somewhere on the east coast according to my optometrist.
That’s a certain sort of awesome. But also terrible?
same boat :/ eyes are too fucked for cheap frames.
Empty frames, maybe.
Frames are expensive because, just like diamonds, ONE company has bought out all the other companies or used their leverage to bully optometrists so they won’t offer the cheaper options. It’s disgusting. The best pair of frames I ever had was a $30 pair I bought in South Korea in the 1980s. Just kept replacing the lenses as needed. I was so pissed when I lost them in an car accident in 2013.
I know what you mean. My mom got an eye exam and they made her buy glasses from them on her insurance (which cost the insurance company something like $600). I get my glasses from Zenni Optical (search Google). This isn’t an ad, but I feel like people should know about this. My frames were like $7 and the prescription itself only cost about $24 or so, and with shipping it came up to $38. It came with UV protection, blue-blocker, scratch resistance and a hydrophobic coating for easy cleaning. You can also get transition lenses for like $40 more. Whenever I talk to anyone about their glasses, they keep saying that they could have bought the same pair for about $300 or something ridiculous like that.
The frames, maybe, but the lenses will still cost.
Did you know some people can see for free? Wild.
Unamerican.
This checks out because I’m Scottish, not American.
Why in the world are you all relying on insurance for glasses? o_O I’ve always paid for those out of pocket. It’s no different from buying a phone or a computer for me.
People are broke, Lurker.
Even more people just barely getting by than normal. I can plunk down a couple of thousand for a computer now and not think a lot about it, but for most of my life that simply wasn’t true. When people are in college or just out, the budget doesn’t stretch that far.
That’s awful though. 🙁
Wow, you don’t actually have to RP as your Gravitar.
…I don’t casually buy new phones and computers either.
Insurance should cover large, unpredictable expenses. Routine, easily predicted expenses should be paid out of pocket. You know you need an eye exam every year, so it should be part of your regular budget. Paying through insurance just adds a layer of administration and reduces the incentive to shop around for the best value. Both of these factors drive up costs.
yeah, you don’t get to decide what people “should” do with their expenses. you don’t know any of us, our lives, or our financial situations.
also, as people have said, shopping around isn’t an option for specialized prescriptions. stop blaming consumers for shitty situations created by corporations.
Funny, people in countries with universal healthcare don’t get gouged as much as Americans.
Having people by the short hairs is what drives up the price.
“Reduces the incentive to shop around for the best value”. There shouldn’t be a need to shop around for the best value. And it’s nothing like buying a computer or phone, where the prices are very clearly posted, and not hidden behind some byzantine bait-and-switch. And also doing so while its difficult to see small print, because you’re looking for an actual medical device, not a gaming platform.
The problem with that approach with healthcare in particular is that it disincentivizes people from getting that routine preventative care, since they have to pay out of pocket.
This leads to things not getting caught early or prevented entirely and thus costs much more overall than covering the routine care does.
And in this case in particular it makes no sense at all – we’re talking about buying glasses, not the exam. Should Joyce have budgeted for glasses when she didn’t even know she had vision problems? On a college student’s budget?
So insulin shouldn’t be covered?
Also it costs more the more blind you are…. Seriously those deals you see on TV don’t apply if your lens are basically coke bottles
No kidding! I was shocked at how much more expensive my lenses got when he doc switched me from single prescription to Progressive lenses. (modern form on bi-focals) OUCH.
If you’ve GOT the insurance, why not?
r/ihavemoney
“Relying on insurance”… are you not from here? In the US we generally pay an arm and a leg for insurance. The whole POINT is using it.
Not in USA, yea. Insurance doesn’t cover it, and if I asked my agent about it I’d probably get laughed at.
Oh man, there’s a great Adam Ruins Everything episode that goes into how a single company owns 80% of the eyewear industry and essentially sets the prices.
(Snopes points out there’s not enough evidence to be sure of the 80% number but that the company does own a massive chunk of the market)
Yep. I haven’t seen that ep (but Adam has good vids) but I knew about the monoply. Eyeglass Frame prices are artificially inflated just like the price of diamonds and insulin.
Join the (US) military.
Free glasses, but BC frames only.
Shortly before I ETS’d in 1992, they started offering TWO frame options: the classic black “nerd”/”birth control” frames, OR the same thing but in BROWN! 😀
**opens mouth**
**closes mouth**
**clears throat**
If one’s partner is aiming there, I don’t think one needs to worry about birth control. Severe stinging, perhaps. I suppose the glasses might help shield one from that at least.
The point of “Birth Control Glasses” is that if you wear them, you don’t have to worry about BC, ’cause you ain’t getting laid.
I’ve also heard them called RPGs: Rape Prevention Glasses.
That…is a pretty awful name.
This is by folks who have, for one reason or another, agreed to commit egregious violence on behalf of (and only on the orders of) their government in exchange for pay. That is what I had to agree to at least, and I imagine their contract isn’t too different. Bleak, dark humor, like your own blood drying on the windswept rocks of a desolate island, kind of goes hand in hand with the job description.
Both of those names also go back decades. Probably to the 60s for the BCG. A much less sensitive time.
They were officially “RPG” for “Regulation Prescription Glasses” at one point and with the Birth Control joke already around the rape version was basically inevitable.
@brionl
Yeah, I got that. And I decided to reply with a joke where I took that moderately crass and entirely inaccurate term to its logical conclusion. Because that’s what I like doing.
Making jokes about sex acts, I mean. I don’t think anyone likes getting jizz in their eyes.
The answer is ‘because capitalism’. Eyeglasses are pretty well monopolized
there are no monopolies in capitalism! competition! unregulated free markets, look FREEDUM IS RIGHT IN THE NAME.
Luxxotica demands sacrifice
It’s all about ordering them online! There’s zenni, glassesusa, and many more, where you’ll get the entire thing that you put on your face (frames, lenses, coatings, shipping) for $70 or less.
What the hell Becky?! Joyce’s eye’s are gorgeous and expressive. Why would you denigrate her like that or _ever_ attempt to distract from them? I thought you were her friend!?
Besides that, Joyce loves sweatervests! (Or at least she did last season/semester.) Calling Dorothy’s reserved frame choice “the sweatervest of glasses” isn’t exactly damning.
(Unless that’s her way of approving the suggestion her “nEmEsIs” made… I liked those on Joyce so I’ll go with that theory.)
per comment elsewhere, trolling her “friend” is apparently just something Becky has always done, with no apparent consequences whatsoever.
They definitely do not suit Joyce, and I hope she doesn’t end up picking those frames.
In the last panel it looks like someone vandalised the comic with a red sharpie and the author of the comic did not notice.
I swear it wasn’t me, this time.
Uh huh. We believe you.
Well, there’s no Dick Dastardly ‘stache drawn on anybody, and I don’t think Taffy would’ve passed up that opportunity…
Or a ding dong…
I mean Joyce is kind of a sweatervest person, so it’s not inappropriate.
Reverse psychology at work by Becky, I bet.
I hope.
Those glasses are fuggin’ awful.
i feel like this is going to get me ostracized, but does… joyce look more like her mother lately? i saw the freshman fifteen in the sapphic claus comic, and now i can’t unsee it.
Go to your room and think about what you did.
Huh? Art evolution aside, I don’t think she’s drawn much (if any) differently than she was before the time skip.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-10/01-birthday-pursuit/yikesy/
Her hair is drawn to suggest that she hasn’t had it cut in some time.
Haircut means change, and Joyce is running on change tolerance reserve supplies right now.
But if she does change it eventually, her late It’s Walky! cut is just sitting right there.
https://www.itswalky.com/comic/stop-before-you-blurt-out-no/
Every character’s design changed significantly, except perhaps Amber, and all of the characters changed toward a more uniform style.
Whether that was a conscious decision meant to reflect changes in the individuals, or an art style change to reflect the update alongside the time-skip, is unclear.
Amber’s been working her way toward Cousin Itt hair for a while now. Soon she’ll reach her first portable camouflage milestone.
Yes, it is large; yes, it highlights her eyes…
But this is practically an Amber!
Roomies!Joe would agree a lot with milking your parents’ divorce for material gains.
A tale as old as time. Mom buys scooter with Dad’s credit card, Dad buys ping-pong table with Mom’s credit card, son builds hover-scooter wkth said scooter and ping-pong table.
http://www.itswalky.com/comic/putt-putt-putt-putt/
This is it. This is the reply I was looking for.
This isn’t first confirmation of divorce, right?? If so I’d imagine this strip would be named ‘Divorce’
It’s the first mention as far as I can recall. But my memory’s not perfect.
No, it was mentioned a while ago — I forget the context, but Joyce was listing all the things that were changing, including “Mike is dead” and “my parents are getting divorced”.
…wow, the only reason I remember that strip is because the commentators did a joke with D words where they avoided saying it.
It seems that no, that’s not how you do links.
I’ll just paste it, then: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-11/02-look-straight-ahead/seeing/
Getting married again at 60 isn’t that uncommon, Becky.
He probably isn’t going to right away. And getting divorced after that?
Hank will soon struggle with divorce addiction. He’ll find an online community all about it and finally find his true niche. Something like “r/divorcehighscores”, or maybe speedrun dot com.
is “divorcehighscores” a real thing? judging by the joy that suffused me when i read the name, i think it may be my true niche, but el-Goog fails to locate it for me.
nothing on reddit either
people could still make it a thing though
Sometimes I forget that my jokes often manifest as reality.
She’s 18. 60 seems ancient.
Okay, if Dad is “swimmin in shame”, then that makes me think he’s not the one that initiated it… and it sounds like he’s the one that had to move out, so when Joyce has to go home… it’s to her mother. (That’s not good.)
she’s 18, possibly 19 depending on her birthday. she can go wherever she wants when school’s out of session. so probably her dad’s, possibly one of her siblings’ houses.
By “one of her siblings,” you mean Jocelyne, right? I don’t know what’s going on with John, but I doubt Joyce wants to find what his life’s like any more than he wants her near him. Jordan…Well, it depends on what Jordan being Jordan entails….
My read is that he’s ashamed of staying in a church (and marriage) that was so bent on hate and shaming for so long that h was complicit in the damage it’s done to his children.
Same.
Yep. Flawed as he is, Hank was not going to stand for this. He clearly has the both the ability and the wish to become a better person, but he knowingly let things last for way longer than they should have.
That’s my read, too. He’s probably reflecting on all the “little things” he let slide over the years, and the contrast between the way John and Joyce were raised.
Yes-and, Hank’s personal brand of Christianity may frown on divorce. He might think he’s failing his kids, and failing his marriage, to have chosen to divorce his wife. He vowed til death do them part, and he’s ashamed to be breaking his vows (even though he’s breaking them for a super ironclad reason. Shame doesn’t tend to listen to reasons).
Judging by early-Joyce’s views on marriage, Hank likely thinks he has the religious duty to provide for his wife and be the head of the household and make their decisions. He failed to control Carol, and he’s not fulfilling his “God-appointed” role.
In some communities, people stay in their dysfunctional marriages forever, or else they can’t stay in the community… so he may not have any divorced friends or relatives at all.
Even if he successfully rejects ALL of this cultural programming, this is not how he imagined his marriage going. It’s sad, he’s sad.
Yeah, I don’t think we have enough information yet to conclude what the home situation is.
I mean, maybe he didn’t initiate the split, but it’s definitely something he knew was coming.
But why “lonely”? I would think that he’d have better relationships with most of his kids. I hope that they are supporting him.
I hope so too, but he’s accustomed to being with his wife nearly all the time. Even if his adult kids are calling him and coming over for lunch occasionally, that’s not the same as living together with a partner.
I hope he gets to keep the dog.
Oh he better. You don’t take a man’s dog.
Unless she does, then puts it down out of spite.
The husband was really nice guy at work.
*plays ZZ Top’s “Cheap Sunglasses” on the hacked Muzak*
Ah, had they previously mentioned the divorce on-panel?
Not shocking, go Hank go, but still.
Yeah, it came up when Joyce was siting big changes earlier.
It’s not like Carol can’t keep herself occupied for the rest of her days making excuses for the remaining members of her church, anyway.
I’m still curious about how much of what John told his family about his fiance is true, as he has yet to introduce her to his parents yet she serves as a frequent excuse for not having time to see his family…And Jordan. All we have on him is a name drop and message board speculation about his alt-right internet agenda…
I’d thought the parents had met her. It was only Joyce who hadn’t. I guess it wasn’t actually clear though.
What “works” – for now, and certain values of – for Becky is not really Joyce’s style. She’s not the sort who goes around being loud and wacky to try to hide her insecurity.
Don’t do it Joyce. Those glasses look terrible and you won’t be able to wear any other shades of red.
But it’s a good shade of red!
Other than the color, those glasses look an awful lot like Amber’s — at least they do to me, anyway.
Same basic lens shape, but in addition to the color, the rims are much thicker.
o3o I never got to live through a divorce. I just got those sweet sweet dad checks in high school.
Divorce was mentioned in the list of changes Joyce was ranting about.
Hank could feel ashamed of his soon to be ex wife, of not being able to make it work, of her choices, of his or his not seeing the extremes earlier. So he still may be the one to initiate the divorce. Besides, shame is an emotion, and those aren’t rational.
On a side note, i am liking Becky less and less 🙁
Becky is, indeed, less and less likeable after the timeslip. But then, so are most of the characters. I don’t know what happened, but they are mostly rubbing me the wrong way now.
Honestly, Hank is probably ashamed of all of the things you mentioned and more. A failed marriage, especially with a partner like Carol, is a whole can of worms, and then sprinkle on Hank’s religious leanings paired with the literal trauma of your child being abducted… I really wonder, how religious Hank would have ended up if he hadn’t paired off with Carol?
Also, yeah, I am all Becky-ed out. She was never my favorite character, but she is downright insufferable right now. I see how this is supposed to be her expressing insecurity, but I really wish we could get her in smaller doses right now.
Hey, you don’t know his life! Maybe he has nice neighbour ladies who bring casserole.
…Not Sal, but still pretty damn good.
(showing my age)
Becky no, just no! Those frames look too outrageous for Dame Edna Everage let alone Joyce!
I’d go for square (or rectangular) rimless with thin arms. Glasses that in every way say “don’t look at at or notice me.”
Hello possums!
Perfect glasses if Joyce wants to be the nerdy librarian in a 1950s parody.
Yes. Yes she does.
So, I totally support Joyce getting glasses that she, personally, feels comfortable with and will enjoy, but…
Those glasses, specifically, are hideous. She doesn’t need to get the cute glasses from before, but hopefully she’ll look for something that’s less of a “pre-emptive strike”.
As off as these are, I think they’re closer to Joyce than the ones Dotty chose. Slightly more toned down colour and less dramatic ovals and catseye, but similar size lenses and face placement (other than the upper tips of those ovals) and I think it would be a good look that while obviously glasses would still show her eyes nicely.
If she does want unobtrusive ones still though, I wouldn’t go with wire drame like dorothy chose. I’d go with half frames (preferably on the upper half) and a neutral colour
What’s that about weirdly-shaped eyeballs? This “Joyce is uncomfortable changing her image” conversation sure took a swerve in a direction I wasn’t expecting
to some extent, it’s literally true – the shape of her eyeballs varies from the norm, which causes her to be nearsighted.
however, Becky has a history of trolling and provoking her “best friend” in order to get “amusing” reactions out of her. it’s something that Joyce seems to tolerate and/or accept, but I’ve never been happy about it.
(and that’s someone Becky likes.)
Everyone else in this scene has licorice jelly beans for eyes.
Mindy has green olives!
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/sweetgrass/
Wait, you said “scene”, not “comic”, disregard
These glasses do look better
We need a second opinion.
I nominate Jennifer.
Becky why do you make me personally uncomfortable with such ease these days D: Joyce isn’t having a good time. Pushing on her these frames she’s obviously not going to like, with this phrasing, and following it up with a divorce punchline doesn’t feel ok.
Right? Ever since the time skip, I’ve been fighting an urge to slug her. Girl is being a complete fucking BRAT.
Well to be fair Mr Brown was very unsupportive of Becky in her time of need so he deserves what he gets…
Hank was the supportive one
I should have added a sarcastic tag
Poor Hank.
I didn’t get any swag when my parents divorced.
Of course, I was 32 at the time.
I was 10 and there was no swag to be had.
Unless you count Beenie Weenies and hot dogs for 2 weeks in the summer.
I prefer Dotty’s recommendation better. She’s the smart one after all.
Aww but she looked cute on the other ones
Second.
This whole arc is so weird. Like “oh no I don’t wanna get glasses” is an episode of Arthur I remember, and that show is for 4th graders. I get that she’s averse to change but Joyce is not acting her age to a wild extent.
It’s not even really about the glasses. Besides, not every plot can be about serious issues or we get numbed to it. Yeah, she’s being immature about getting glasses, but it’s not a big deal.
Besides, Arthur’s great. 😛
To be fair, a lot of Arthur episodes aren’t just about the thing they’re doing either.
Yeah, iirc, that episode with glasses was about bullying.
Aaaand we’re back to Becky being a terrible person.
Great!
yup. or at least an insensitive one.
Holy shit those glasses make her face look like a clickbait YouTube thumbnail
Like that SniperWolf girl who just does clickbaity “reaction” videos. (Joyce isn’t over-emoting enough for channels like LTT.)
Seriously, logged-out, fresh-incognito-window YouTube is a cesspit of clickbait.
I like Becky’s rationale here a lot more than I like her implementation
Unless her actual plan was to present Joyce with glasses so hideous and off-putting that Dorothy’s suggestion would seem a lot more reasonable by comparison
Oooooh, maybe. If this is her way of bonding with Dorothy, I approve.
Damn, Beck, them’s some butt-ugly frames.
Those glasses…aren’t they based off of Maggie’s? I swear she had adorable glasses like that years ago.
Naturally, Becky chose some sitcom-style exaggerated frames. Because, in the end, since when has their lives not been a sitcom?
Now young Joyce you will pay for your lack of vision
Oh thank God Becky’s being truly helpful again. I hope this won’t be the chosen frame but I am glad that she’s using her influence on Joyce for the right thing. Well… when I say right… I mean… um… extorting money from Joyce’s dad… yet… somehow… I’m okay with that. A little. Anything to make it easier for Joyce to get the right frames she can be pleased with.
Called it! Dorothy shows her sensible frames, Becky rebuts with loud and obnoxious ones.
I like how both Dorothy and Becky each picked out glasses that they themselves would clearly wear (these are def the Becky-est of glasses). XD
Joyce has gotta find some Joyce glasses!
Just realized a bunch of people already said this above me oops!
Don’t feel bad. It’s my view that the comments section is what each reader thinks and in no way is it limited to ‘original or new responses’. So long as you don’t start asking questions that have been answered a dozen times or something.
Well, we DO get some of that, too.
We are all individuals!
We are all individuals!
This is a good way to look at it!
Order online! So long as you have your prescription, about the only thing you need that isn’t always on there is your pupillary distance – and you can usually get that in a store, then say you want to shop around and leave (trickier during pandemic – I used the ruler+mirror method)
Loads cheaper. LOADS. I picked up one set with all the fixins (super-thin, all the various coatings), a cheap spare, and a pair of prescription safety glasses for roughly what I would have paid in-store for a single pair.
Though I have heard this can be trickier if your prescription is VERY strong.
And for Joyce it will delay the inevitable for a couple weeks due to processing+shipping times.
Yeah I have a few spare pairs of much cheaper glasses I got online and they never seem to fit quite right compared to the ones I get at my optometrist. Maybe depends on the prescription (my vision is moderately bad + astigmatism) or face size/shape? I have uneven ears and a small face so the optometrist always has to do a ton of manual adjustment to my frames to get them to sit right.
I am envious of people who can easily order additional pairs online!
Wow thats a crappy way to treat the man that stood up for you Becky.. goddamn..
Are you still surprised Becky is a user?
Since when has Becky shown that she cares about anything other than herself?
Are you serious? Since the beginning. Since she went with her Dad, who had a gun, and was gonna drive her to some conversion camp, or kill her or whatever. She cares about Joyce very much, but I also get that it might be hard for her to get attached right now, after her Dad died, and she basically lost everything (not neccessarily in that order). Having stability will help, and maybe therapy. Is Becky getting therapy?
Everyone calm down. It was a funny joke.
right, like all the other things Becky says about Joyce.
and “Dotty.”
funny.
Holy shit chill. She’s telling Joyce to ask her dad to pay for her glasses and making a joke out of it. Can we please stop treating becky like the antichrist
But her hair is literally the color of fire. 🙁
Joyce likes sweatervests though.
Oh dang, don’t think we knew that already. Anyway, I’m not sure those specifically work for her but I like the way Becky is leaning.
I really hope Joyce doesn’t end up going with the frames Becky picked out. Because holy crap those are ugly frames.
I thought the “dull things” looked really pretty with Joyce’s eyes.
Are there other online eyeglass vendors besides Zenni Optical that anyone here has used? I’m not unhappy with Zenni or anything, but I wonder if anyone knows of and has used other options.
Helpful tip: The silicone nose pads on my glasses started to rip. Costco offers free replacement nosepads to members.
I used goggles4u and was satisfied with the results.
Disclaimer: I have pretty good vision and usually wear contacts – the plastic pair I got are fine, the metal frames I got were cheap metal frames and are obviously cheap wheel looking at them.
I’ve said it a couple of times so I hope i don’t sound like an ad lol, but glassesshop is pretty good. Cute frames, good lenses, tonnes of coupons and discounts (I’d recommend having honey installed). Only issue is their customer service isnt great and it’ll take some time to craft the lenses and ship them over (it’s shipping from china) but it’s worth it imo.
Warby Parker was satisfactory.
Someone correct me if I’m mistaken, but is this the first we’ve heard of divorce between Joyce’s parents? I mean, sure, the writing was on the wall, but first confirmation?
I imagine some low-key frames like Jocelyn will be chosen.
Becky has mentioned it before, I think, but it hasn’t been a big thing in-strip yet.
Joyce dropped it in the middle of a list of big life changes earlier in the chapter.
Why stop with these? I think Joyce should go full-on Timmy Mallet with her glasses.
Wow; there’s a reminder from my distant childhood!
Timmy Mallet: making Elton John look like he wears nondescript rimless specs since 1984.
It’s funny, I see Becky talking but I hear Billy’s voice.
Did Becky just go straight for the ugliest glasse sin the store to try and make the others more appealing? Because those things are hideous.
It’s a thought that occurred to me. The other option is that she selected those frames as being the polar opposite to chose chosen by Dorothy as possible.
A bit of both? At last, Joyce doesn’t look like her brothers and sister with them.
I think they’re ones Becky would like. She doesn’t wear glasses so probably doesn’t realise that glasses you wear all the time should be pretty neutral so they go with everything (admittedly Becky might go for it even considering that) and with Joyce’s aversion to glasses she probably wants something more subtle. Maybe she should check bigger but still subtle frames, I prefer teacup shape myself (like a rounded square wider on the top than the bottom. Cat eye shapes are a bit of a statement and red as well!
Though I seldom used it, I loved my switch-it for the option to have something eyecatching one day and practically invisible the next.
Thanks to all the comments a few strips back about Chris Pratt and Parks and Recreation I started watching it (up to the 5th series) and its helped me realise what it is about Becky that aggravates me
Becky reminds me of the April Ludgate character (and the similar Brooklyn 99 character Gina Linetti) I find those characters to be mean and nasty people that somehow never get called on their actions (except very mildly) and always somehow get promoted through…reasons?
Those glasses look fucking terrible, Becky.
I know I missed the divorce confirmation earlier but now that I do know:
“And there was much rejoicing. *yaaaaaay*”
I know I’m likely wrong about this, but isn’t Becky’s “So *I’ll* call yer Dad an’ ask for the difference” similar to the boundary violation that Dorothy committed in making the eye appointment for Joyce?
Not only is that a shitty thing to do to someone, but those glasses look really really bad on you.
Becky may be a good friend. But she is a bad advisor. A badvisor, if you will.
Color is nice, frame is wrong.
Joyce, if you’re gonna spend money on expensive frames, go all out and get those frames that change shape depending on the expression you’re making, those are really cool!
… What? She lives in a comic world, Willis could totally make those a thing!
Ooooooo, or shades with a glint of light that moves to show where you’re looking, Marcie-style! Or glasses that are both things!
They warned me Satan would be attractive…
Actually, those are really beautiful glasses. Perfect for Joyce.
I bought some frames that were more than my insurance wod cover, and they said that I could pay the difference when they came in. My paycheck was short that month, so I didn’t go in right away. When I finally had the cash, the optometrist had died and the practice closed.
It’s been 10 years and I still haven’t gotten a new prescription
After 17 years of wearing glasses I tried contacts this year, which involved me sitting in an optometrist’s office for two hours, eyes red and leaking from both physical and emotional irritation, while I taught an increasingly embarrassed optician the startling rainbow of swearwords.
My point is… I hope Joyce is freaked out enough about glasses that she tries contacts, because it will be hilarious.
Also, yay! the avatar thing has been rejiggered so I’m not blowjob cat any more!
You know you can choose your own right?
You can?!?!
I hear there’s even this roulette people can do to change their gravatar with one easy trick, if they don’t feel like editing or uploading a custom one.
I may keep switching them from now on.
I don’t think either set of glasses fit her. You have to find your own set with personality. She isn’t her family, but she isn’t Becky either. This is a great set up to show that.
^ This. My thoughts exactly
Feel like I’m the only one who thinks those are cute lol. Take off the lil whiskers and I’d actually love them
dear god, those glasses are only sold to the cartoon evil teachers.
But Becky, sweatervests ARE Joyce’s style!
I wonder if Becky picked out the biggest most flashy glasses so that any other pair will seem good in comparison, easing Joyce into finding something.
Everyone who wears glasses should make at least one horrible choice of frames at least once during their life, just to know what it’s like! I still cringe–and giggle–at pictures of me from about age twenty.
Of course, it’s probably best not to do it for your first pair, especially not if you’re uncomfortable with the whole concept of wearing glasses. But at some point.
As someone who has a lot of very loud glasses (my usuals are bright red and heart shaped), joyce, just take the prescription and get out of there and order some glasses online. they got WAY cooler lookin frames for way cheaper.
And just like that we find out that Becky is NOT the kind of gay that understands fashion.
Five adult kids, none of them twins or anything, and he’s only 60 years old?
Somebody started early. Did Carol drop out of college to raise John while he finished or something?
A kid every other year would only take 10 years. If he started at 30 and finished at 40 then he would be 60 when the youngest was 20. They might have started when both were around 25 and Joyce might be 19. There’s plenty of time so I’m not sure where there’s a problem.
Terrible, glasses, terrible terrible glasses
spider jerusalem glasses! come on, that’s gotta be worth reworking the 27,500 strips in the buffer
try try again
i meant to do that :/
another +1 for zenni or any of the other online places;
it’s so much obviously better and cheaper that it’s knocking me out of the story, how do these reasonably online kids not know all about it? seeing them shop for too-expensive frames right there at the optometrist seems almost unrealistic now, like they’re using a phone booth or something
i got my prescription (covered under insurance), grabbed my copy including pupil distance (which i had to ask for, it wasn’t on the form), went home and popped onto zenni, uploaded a good selfie, “tried on” like infinite frames and ordered perfectly good glasses for like $40.
hell, i ordered two more, a “reading/computer” set and a “progressive” set, also $40 each.
buying overpriced frames at the mall optometrist is like something from the last century