A lot of McDonalds still use old art for the play-places and stuff, or at least they did when I was a kid, so it’s reasonable enough he’d know about the other characters besides Ronald. Especially since he’s such a McNugget enthusiast.
McDonalds is currently in the middle of turning all their restaurants into diabetes prisons. Something tells me McDonaldLand is fading into obscurity.
When I was a kid, I got stuck in one of those Officer Mac climber treehouse things outside the local one. (This was before they added the indoor playplace. (Man, those things are petri dishes, at least the dangerous outdoor stuff got rinsed off by rain…)
For “diabetes prisons”? Look at a remodeled McDonalds and tell me that’s not what it looks like…
Before: Mansard roofs, brick, earth tones.
After: The same dark gray and woodgrain boxes every other fast food place is building, but somehow even more institutional
I will be the first to admit I’m not an expert on gender stuff, but I’m pretty sure Carla is a transwoman and not nonbinary. I think Johan is talking about Malaya.
I’m a little out of my depth on the topic (and that’s scary as the parent of a transgender child), but is Malaya actually nonbinary? She openly stated questioning her identity but openly embraces the obvious secondary sexual traits that she exhibits, never actually addresses the topic of identity, and outside of getting a short haircut, which isn’t outside the norm anymore at all, hasn’t done anything non-conforming to the identity assigned to her.
Again, this stuff is generally out of my depth. My generation did not get exposed to this kind of stuff and we are poorer and less well adjusted for it, to be honest.
Completely forgot about that strip. It wasn’t even that long ago, so I have little excuse. Granted, it does say that we time skipped over her wearing a binder for a month.
In what way? Again, I said I was out of my depth on the topic. I try to defer to what people directly tell me they want, but when I don’t have that direct interaction it is a confusing topic for those in my generation, let alone those who are older than me. While I never, ever agreed with the prevailing train of thought of those that surrounded me in Southern IN that people had to fit in whatever box they were assigned to, I wasn’t exposed to those who got to be their true selves as they saw fit either. Therefore, my vernacular on the topic may be off without meaning to be.
Dr. T, you were open to clarification and forthright in explaining that you weren’t sure of terminology. Anyone trying to guilt trip you for embrasing the topic with respect (and an open concern about your own ignorance) is just being a jerk. While you may have misused some terms (not that I could see) you did nothing with the apparent intention of causing upset. You’re fine until somone provides *constructive* criticism.
Hi, I’m an AFAB enby. I personally like my boobs, have few if any opinions about what’s going on downstairs, and I use gendered pronouns. The physical traits I was born with are completely unrelated to the gender I experience. Some nonbinary people like their physical traits, some don’t. Some express highly gender neutral, some dress in combinations of stereotypically masc and fem expressing outfits, some dress primarily masc or primarily fem. Some use gender neutral pronouns, some don’t.
The whole point of nonbinary is “F the two box gender system”. By specifically trying to stay out of one box or the other, we would be reinforcing the boxes’ definitions. Nonconforming to gender stereotypes for the sole purpose of fitting into the stereotype of a nonbinary box, defeats the purpose of a nonbinary option. Instead, the idea is to be completely authentic to oneself and be able to ignore those boxes altogether when deciding what makes a person feel comfortable. Malaya can be in the general vicinity of the “female” box, but so long as she isn’t confined to it, she’s all good.
I mean I personally don’t think either of them are shit. Besides, flaws make characters interesting. They have roles to play in the story and development of themselves/other characters that exist separate from their gender and I’d honestly prefer that to them just being seemingly perfect for the sake of the least problematic existences possible in a cast full of walking dumpster fires (because let’s be real, Booster and Malaya having obvious flaws makes them fit right in with everyone else).
And before anyone asks, yes I am an enby myself and am not just projecting/making assumptions. Though I do understand and appreciate if other non-binary people have differing preferences for representation.
Neat. I really am curious to learn more about Booster. I doubt they made such a… “memorable” first impression without some sort of driving force behind it, and while it likely won’t justify their behavior, I have enough faith that it’ll at least provide a more understandable explanation.
Oh Joyce, how are you going to handle being an atheist if you can’t even accept you need glasses? More importantly, and more interesting for us, what will your parents think?
It’s not necessarily an issue of acceptance. You don’t wake up one day suddenly short-sighted, and therefore have to get glasses and refuse to do it. Your eyesight gets gradually worse, and you gradually accommodate it without even noticing: you squint, you sit at the front of the class, you continually ask your friends which Hollywood blonde is on the screen and get confused when she gets replaced on the screen by the other HB in the movie.
Eventually, you get a moment when all the accommodations fail at once and it penetrates your consciousness that maybe there’s something up with your eyes. This is (hopefully) Joyce’s moment of realization.
I wouldn’t say ALL of them are too cool to take notes.
She has asked 2 of them (Sal/Walky) that happen to be in class with her, and one of them may have a learning disability. I suspect people like Sarah and Dorothy would have taken notes had they been in the same class. (As would people like Ethan, if he hadn’t seem to have vanished.)
Which is incidentally how I can see any 18-19-year-old in the nebulous now knowing enough about the Hamburglar to draw a recognizable picture. I remember the Hamburglar and I still couldn’t describe him until that audio started going around.
I have to work tomorrow (today), so I’m having a Swanson Hungry-Man frozen turkey dinner when I get done at 5:00. My concession to it being Thanksgiving is that I’ve made up a batch of cranberry-flavored Jello shots to go with it.
Thanks! My family and my fiance’s family made a pod, we all got tested and we’ve stayed super socially-distanced for many months. (Lots of vulnerable folks: four healthy 30-somethings but one is pregnant, and four parents above 70, one of whom also has asthma and immune issues.) Very luckily we can all work from home, and we live where it’s possible to stay scrupulously distanced from all other people. We were all so diligent and we’re extremely lucky to be able to do Thanksgiving together this year. I made pie.
My students’ families are probably gonna do a whole lot of Zoom Thanksgivings, because 3rd Graders and their families can’t keep distance so perfectly. But it’s a Jewish afterschool zoom program, so we already did all the High Holy Days online, so I know they can do this too.
I see the parents in the background of the students’ frames sometimes. They look like ragged superheroes.
I teach college, but my oldest is in 3rd grade this year. We’ve kept him full online, so no contact with anyone outside the house since school started (and before, actually).
Yeah, it’s rough. I have immune issues and the only places I’ve been were A) In my car while we drove around, B) My boyfriend’s house when nobody was home or only his immediate family was home and had not been anywhere (and once a week or two ago when his grandma – who lives alone and socially distances – was there as well) and C) A lawyer’s office to sort out some funding issues for school (distanced and wore a mask, though neither he nor his secretary did).
TIL the last Biff-Burger in the world that is still operating as a Biff-Burger is in Saint Petersburg. I guess I’ll have to go there next time I’m in Florida. (The one in Land O’Lakes is a used car dealership. It’s on southbound Highway 41 just before the high school.)
Ngl if I had realized earlier that drawing in class kept me as focused as it did I would have done a lot better in a lot of my classes than when I tried to take actual notes (or more often read or tried to do homework for another class, which did not work because it engaged the same parts of the brain).
An archive perusal suggests to me that Ress’s auditorium has somewhere in the range of 5-7 rows of seating. Let’s say that going from sitting in the middle to sitting in the back adds 2-3 rows. That should amount to more than 5 ft and less than 15, so let’s say it’s ten more feet. I’m going to estimate that the middle was about 30 ft away from the board, and now she’s 40 ft away.
Rees likes to write big. He’s used the entire board for a single expression. The lettering on the slate from yesterday wasn’t particularly large for him, so let’s go with that. That makes the letters 6″ to 1′ tall, and he’s written smaller at some times (like the boundary intervals for definite integrals), so I’ll go with 6″. If my estimates are right, that means Joyce’s vision is at least as good as 20/25. But if she’s unable to make out the numbers from the back of the class, her vision is at best oh no wait I’m supposed to multiply by 10 there.
….. okay, fixing that mistake… yeah, she needs glasses bad. How’d she even get a driver’s license? If her vision got worse since then, how did she not notice?
It’s not like you wake up one morning and you’re Mr. Magoo, it’s a gradual shift that sneaks up on you. I only really noticed I need to get my prescription updated when my eyes couldn’t force-focus on distant street signs anymore.
Driving with slightly blurry vision is certainly doable, as long as A. you know where you’re going, and B. you can still discern small-ish moving objects. I had to go into the city last week, and while not being able to read street signs was a hindrance, regular signs (stop, yield, rotary, one way, etc) are all familiar and visually distinct enough to recognize from a distance.
No way in hell I’d drive without my glasses, though. They may not be strong enough to get me to 20/20 anymore, but they’re still correcting 90% of the problem.
Last time I got new glasses, I remember driving home like, “Oh, wow, you’re supposed to bee able to SEE that? Man, I should not have been driving before.” But it’s so gradual, like you said, and even when I really needed new glasses, I still avoided getting into any accidents.
Rees’s head is 10 pixels tall in https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/rapture/ and Joyce’s head is 70 pixels tall. It appears the point of view there is one row behind Joyce, about 1m. If their heads are the same size that means the reader’s POV is 7m away from the board, and Joyce’s is about 6m away on a middle seat. Moving to a back seat should add another 4m or more for a total of 10. I think that’s about going from 18 feet to 30 feet or more. If the rows are 5 feet (~1.5m) apart as you say, you can add half again to those numbers and Joyce went from sitting 9m away from the board to sitting 15m away.
That is definitely a difference where you notice it if you’re shortsighted.
Relatable. At training 2 days ago the instructor told the class my doodles are a barometer for the class mood and instructed me to hold up my book so he could see it.
It was a giant foot with arms coming out of the ankles with feet for hands and then a giant toe with a human face above that. I then had to show the class of middle-aged guys why the instructor was pissing himself.
Did he? He apparently did well enough on his midterm to pass and he took it immediately after the kidnapping. This was after making out with Amber instead of studying, which was after Amber altered his grades so he would be passing enough for his overall grade to still be salvageable. I’m not sure anything has happened that taught him he has to study yet. We don’t know what happened post-midterm that kept his grades up.
Of course, it could still turn out that the drawing helps him focus in class and is better than him trying to take notes.
I mean, as a slacker who was bit in the butt by lack of note-taking myself, even when I learned my lesson I still didn’t always use it. If you’r like Walky, there are some classes where you don’t really need to take notes.
More like he had a whole arc struggling to study effectively (without much success using traditional methods,) towards the end of which we saw Mike suggesting to Amber that the issue could be less ‘never learned to study’ and more ‘cannot learn with these methods,’ suggesting ADHD. Now, Mike clearly had some big misses in his perception of others, but there’s been a lot of less direct suggestions Walky may have ADHD. (Primarily inattentive type, I think.) One of them being, yeah, he doodles in class instead of taking traditional notes, because that’s a common thing among ADHD people that helps them focus better.
Also Amber changing his grades probably didn’t help, but I’m still suspecting this isn’t so much a problem of ‘chooses not to take adequate notes and study’ as ‘these methods just do not work for him, and he doesn’t have any clue how to find ones that do.’
I don’t know why, but I love “this character needs glasses” arcs. They’re really funny to me. I’ve been wearing glasses since I was a kid, and I vaguely remember being stubborn about not needing them for no reason before giving in, but other than that I couldn’t tell you why.
Maybe it’s just that I think characters squinting is funny.
Well, we know Walky struggled last term… but we got no indication of what his final grade was. (due to the time-jump) But if he’s in this class with the others, I’m assuming he passed.
Still, you’d think he’d at least TRY to write something note-like down, so as to not have that happen again.
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Joyce: “IT NEEDS MORE DOUG FUNNIE FUCKING ALF, WALKY”
Walky: “oh… I’M ON IT”
It occurs to me that not only are these kids too young to remember Doug, they are now also too young to remember the Disney revival of Doug.
Shocked they even remember when McDonalds did commercials with characters, actually.
Alf however is a timeless cultural icon.
I think McDonalds stopped using those characters in its Canadian ads before it did in the US.
I wonder if Walky drew the pudgy, cute, non-threatening Hamburglar or the original, stuff-of-nightmares Hamburglar.
A lot of McDonalds still use old art for the play-places and stuff, or at least they did when I was a kid, so it’s reasonable enough he’d know about the other characters besides Ronald. Especially since he’s such a McNugget enthusiast.
McDonalds is currently in the middle of turning all their restaurants into diabetes prisons. Something tells me McDonaldLand is fading into obscurity.
When I was a kid, I got stuck in one of those Officer Mac climber treehouse things outside the local one. (This was before they added the indoor playplace. (Man, those things are petri dishes, at least the dangerous outdoor stuff got rinsed off by rain…)
Buzzword BINGO!
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For “diabetes prisons”? Look at a remodeled McDonalds and tell me that’s not what it looks like…
Before: Mansard roofs, brick, earth tones.
After: The same dark gray and woodgrain boxes every other fast food place is building, but somehow even more institutional
“timeless cultural icon” says the person with the time machine.
Most of the kids reading here are too young to remember that New Year’s strip, Ana.
hence my name
also I couldn’t remember any other bizarre pop culture reference that was also funny enough for a punchline
Hey Ana, is that Daisy in your grav? Does this foretell her return?
Who knows? It’s Willis, that strip could get pulled, and I’d be stuck with this forever 🤷♀️
I guess some things never change.
Too bad she is not in the same class as Dorothy
She’s in the same class as Lucy though, who seems like the type that would take thorough notes.
Oh no. Joyce is the voice of reason…
Side note because I’m a fragile child (grown adult), Mike being dead after a redemption arc is still worse than Billie and Ruth breaking up.
Sucks Billie decided to mob boss it up but death is final there’s no going up from that.
Booster sucks and it sucks that both enby reps in this comic are shit.
Carla is awesome, tho.
I will be the first to admit I’m not an expert on gender stuff, but I’m pretty sure Carla is a transwoman and not nonbinary. I think Johan is talking about Malaya.
I’m a little out of my depth on the topic (and that’s scary as the parent of a transgender child), but is Malaya actually nonbinary? She openly stated questioning her identity but openly embraces the obvious secondary sexual traits that she exhibits, never actually addresses the topic of identity, and outside of getting a short haircut, which isn’t outside the norm anymore at all, hasn’t done anything non-conforming to the identity assigned to her.
Again, this stuff is generally out of my depth. My generation did not get exposed to this kind of stuff and we are poorer and less well adjusted for it, to be honest.
i mean “transcending gender” seems pretty enby to me
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-11/01-this-bright-millennium/pronouns/
Completely forgot about that strip. It wasn’t even that long ago, so I have little excuse. Granted, it does say that we time skipped over her wearing a binder for a month.
oh yikes your wording Hurts
In what way? Again, I said I was out of my depth on the topic. I try to defer to what people directly tell me they want, but when I don’t have that direct interaction it is a confusing topic for those in my generation, let alone those who are older than me. While I never, ever agreed with the prevailing train of thought of those that surrounded me in Southern IN that people had to fit in whatever box they were assigned to, I wasn’t exposed to those who got to be their true selves as they saw fit either. Therefore, my vernacular on the topic may be off without meaning to be.
Dr. T, you were open to clarification and forthright in explaining that you weren’t sure of terminology. Anyone trying to guilt trip you for embrasing the topic with respect (and an open concern about your own ignorance) is just being a jerk. While you may have misused some terms (not that I could see) you did nothing with the apparent intention of causing upset. You’re fine until somone provides *constructive* criticism.
Hi, I’m an AFAB enby. I personally like my boobs, have few if any opinions about what’s going on downstairs, and I use gendered pronouns. The physical traits I was born with are completely unrelated to the gender I experience. Some nonbinary people like their physical traits, some don’t. Some express highly gender neutral, some dress in combinations of stereotypically masc and fem expressing outfits, some dress primarily masc or primarily fem. Some use gender neutral pronouns, some don’t.
The whole point of nonbinary is “F the two box gender system”. By specifically trying to stay out of one box or the other, we would be reinforcing the boxes’ definitions. Nonconforming to gender stereotypes for the sole purpose of fitting into the stereotype of a nonbinary box, defeats the purpose of a nonbinary option. Instead, the idea is to be completely authentic to oneself and be able to ignore those boxes altogether when deciding what makes a person feel comfortable. Malaya can be in the general vicinity of the “female” box, but so long as she isn’t confined to it, she’s all good.
Even when I’m femme I’m still a them! ~
Carla’s a trans woman. NB people are trans, but not all trans folks are NB. it’s sorta like how toads are frogs, but not all frogs are toads.
wait toads are frogs?
so Frog and Toad was about two frogs?? mind blown
Carla is amab female. That is not non binary.
I mean I personally don’t think either of them are shit. Besides, flaws make characters interesting. They have roles to play in the story and development of themselves/other characters that exist separate from their gender and I’d honestly prefer that to them just being seemingly perfect for the sake of the least problematic existences possible in a cast full of walking dumpster fires (because let’s be real, Booster and Malaya having obvious flaws makes them fit right in with everyone else).
And before anyone asks, yes I am an enby myself and am not just projecting/making assumptions. Though I do understand and appreciate if other non-binary people have differing preferences for representation.
I’m also enby. Malaya is a well rounded character that sucks but makes sense.
I suppose it is too soon to cast harsh judgement on Booster but dang that was certainly an entrance.
Neat. I really am curious to learn more about Booster. I doubt they made such a… “memorable” first impression without some sort of driving force behind it, and while it likely won’t justify their behavior, I have enough faith that it’ll at least provide a more understandable explanation.
Oh Joyce, how are you going to handle being an atheist if you can’t even accept you need glasses? More importantly, and more interesting for us, what will your parents think?
It’s not necessarily an issue of acceptance. You don’t wake up one day suddenly short-sighted, and therefore have to get glasses and refuse to do it. Your eyesight gets gradually worse, and you gradually accommodate it without even noticing: you squint, you sit at the front of the class, you continually ask your friends which Hollywood blonde is on the screen and get confused when she gets replaced on the screen by the other HB in the movie.
Eventually, you get a moment when all the accommodations fail at once and it penetrates your consciousness that maybe there’s something up with your eyes. This is (hopefully) Joyce’s moment of realization.
Also, fuck all Joyce’s friends who are too cool to take notes. WTF? No wonder they aren’t doing well in this class.
…Though, now I’m wondering if Joyce isn’t the only one with vision problems.
I wouldn’t say ALL of them are too cool to take notes.
She has asked 2 of them (Sal/Walky) that happen to be in class with her, and one of them may have a learning disability. I suspect people like Sarah and Dorothy would have taken notes had they been in the same class. (As would people like Ethan, if he hadn’t seem to have vanished.)
At least one of Joyce’s siblings already wears glasses, so I don’t think her parents will be particularly shocked.
What did Hamburglar ever do to you, Walky? I mean, other than perhaps steal a hamburger from you, which was his job.
Hmmm, we know his parents pushed him into acting gigs as a kid. Maybe he actually did a McDonald’s commercial at some point?
Might explain the lifelong obsession with McNuggets.
Commit voter fraud, according to Alex Hirsch.
Which is incidentally how I can see any 18-19-year-old in the nebulous now knowing enough about the Hamburglar to draw a recognizable picture. I remember the Hamburglar and I still couldn’t describe him until that audio started going around.
When I first read the comic, I read “hamburger” rather than “hamburgler” so I was like “so what, bears sharing a hamburger?” I was very confused.
Yeah, this is way darker than my initial impression.
They ate Mayor McCheese first.
R.R.I.P.: Robble Robble In Peace
That rated a hearty chuckle.
WALKY NO
Good luck with Thanksgiving, you American type Pokemon out there.
Thanks!
We picked up the groceries for it today via no-contact pay online then drive up and have them put your stuff in your trunk style shopping.
We’re having hot chicken wings (fried in our new air fryer) with sweet potato fries. Also cranberries and pie.
I have to work tomorrow (today), so I’m having a Swanson Hungry-Man frozen turkey dinner when I get done at 5:00. My concession to it being Thanksgiving is that I’ve made up a batch of cranberry-flavored Jello shots to go with it.
Update: Oh my fucking gods! Fresh air-fried hotwings are so much better than Turkey. The fries and pie were awesome too.
The cranberries kinda sucked. Like, they weren’t bad, but they weren’t amazing either.
Still, 3/4 successes ain’t bad. Plus it only took an hour to make rather than, like six+ hours. Quarantine Thanksgiving Feast for the win.
Sounds like a fun time!
Thanks! My family and my fiance’s family made a pod, we all got tested and we’ve stayed super socially-distanced for many months. (Lots of vulnerable folks: four healthy 30-somethings but one is pregnant, and four parents above 70, one of whom also has asthma and immune issues.) Very luckily we can all work from home, and we live where it’s possible to stay scrupulously distanced from all other people. We were all so diligent and we’re extremely lucky to be able to do Thanksgiving together this year. I made pie.
My students’ families are probably gonna do a whole lot of Zoom Thanksgivings, because 3rd Graders and their families can’t keep distance so perfectly. But it’s a Jewish afterschool zoom program, so we already did all the High Holy Days online, so I know they can do this too.
I see the parents in the background of the students’ frames sometimes. They look like ragged superheroes.
I teach college, but my oldest is in 3rd grade this year. We’ve kept him full online, so no contact with anyone outside the house since school started (and before, actually).
Yeah, it’s rough. I have immune issues and the only places I’ve been were A) In my car while we drove around, B) My boyfriend’s house when nobody was home or only his immediate family was home and had not been anywhere (and once a week or two ago when his grandma – who lives alone and socially distances – was there as well) and C) A lawyer’s office to sort out some funding issues for school (distanced and wore a mask, though neither he nor his secretary did).
Walky Bears are a particularly dangerous kind of bear.
Distantly related to Australian drop bears, but instead of dropping on your head they throw toys at it.
So I just figured out the significance of the current storyline title.
It’s something they tell you to do at an eye exam.
All these years reading the DoA and I never noticed those titles under the comic until your comment lmao
*plays ZZ Top’s “Burger Man” on the hacked Muzak*
I wonder if the derelict Biff Burger stand is still there in Land O’Lakes Florida.
It just gets greasier every time I heard it!
TIL the last Biff-Burger in the world that is still operating as a Biff-Burger is in Saint Petersburg. I guess I’ll have to go there next time I’m in Florida. (The one in Land O’Lakes is a used car dealership. It’s on southbound Highway 41 just before the high school.)
That’s still more effort than I put into my notes.
Ngl if I had realized earlier that drawing in class kept me as focused as it did I would have done a lot better in a lot of my classes than when I tried to take actual notes (or more often read or tried to do homework for another class, which did not work because it engaged the same parts of the brain).
But why wouldn’t the bears eat his sack of hamburgers? They’re right there.
Bears: Your hamburgers or your life!
Hamburglar: Robblerobble
Bears: …?
If they kill him, they can eat the burgers, too, at their own convenience.
Has sal not hooked him up with her good tutor yet? He’s still only tried the shitty tutor as far as I can recall.
It’d be kinda fun to see Danny and Walky interact some more.
Okay, thinking a bit on this…
An archive perusal suggests to me that Ress’s auditorium has somewhere in the range of 5-7 rows of seating. Let’s say that going from sitting in the middle to sitting in the back adds 2-3 rows. That should amount to more than 5 ft and less than 15, so let’s say it’s ten more feet. I’m going to estimate that the middle was about 30 ft away from the board, and now she’s 40 ft away.
Rees likes to write big. He’s used the entire board for a single expression. The lettering on the slate from yesterday wasn’t particularly large for him, so let’s go with that. That makes the letters 6″ to 1′ tall, and he’s written smaller at some times (like the boundary intervals for definite integrals), so I’ll go with 6″. If my estimates are right, that means Joyce’s vision is at least as good as 20/25. But if she’s unable to make out the numbers from the back of the class, her vision is at best oh no wait I’m supposed to multiply by 10 there.
….. okay, fixing that mistake… yeah, she needs glasses bad. How’d she even get a driver’s license? If her vision got worse since then, how did she not notice?
It’s not like you wake up one morning and you’re Mr. Magoo, it’s a gradual shift that sneaks up on you. I only really noticed I need to get my prescription updated when my eyes couldn’t force-focus on distant street signs anymore.
Driving with slightly blurry vision is certainly doable, as long as A. you know where you’re going, and B. you can still discern small-ish moving objects. I had to go into the city last week, and while not being able to read street signs was a hindrance, regular signs (stop, yield, rotary, one way, etc) are all familiar and visually distinct enough to recognize from a distance.
No way in hell I’d drive without my glasses, though. They may not be strong enough to get me to 20/20 anymore, but they’re still correcting 90% of the problem.
Last time I got new glasses, I remember driving home like, “Oh, wow, you’re supposed to bee able to SEE that? Man, I should not have been driving before.” But it’s so gradual, like you said, and even when I really needed new glasses, I still avoided getting into any accidents.
Rees’s head is 10 pixels tall in https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/rapture/ and Joyce’s head is 70 pixels tall. It appears the point of view there is one row behind Joyce, about 1m. If their heads are the same size that means the reader’s POV is 7m away from the board, and Joyce’s is about 6m away on a middle seat. Moving to a back seat should add another 4m or more for a total of 10. I think that’s about going from 18 feet to 30 feet or more. If the rows are 5 feet (~1.5m) apart as you say, you can add half again to those numbers and Joyce went from sitting 9m away from the board to sitting 15m away.
That is definitely a difference where you notice it if you’re shortsighted.
Maybe it’s just me, but have images been loading extremely slowly on DoA, lately?
I haven’t been having any particular trouble with this web site.
I mean, he’s right, Joyce
Relatable. At training 2 days ago the instructor told the class my doodles are a barometer for the class mood and instructed me to hold up my book so he could see it.
It was a giant foot with arms coming out of the ankles with feet for hands and then a giant toe with a human face above that. I then had to show the class of middle-aged guys why the instructor was pissing himself.
Walky didn’t you have a whole ARC where you learned the importance of studying?
Some things never change (and that is a bad thing)
Did he? He apparently did well enough on his midterm to pass and he took it immediately after the kidnapping. This was after making out with Amber instead of studying, which was after Amber altered his grades so he would be passing enough for his overall grade to still be salvageable. I’m not sure anything has happened that taught him he has to study yet. We don’t know what happened post-midterm that kept his grades up.
Of course, it could still turn out that the drawing helps him focus in class and is better than him trying to take notes.
I mean, as a slacker who was bit in the butt by lack of note-taking myself, even when I learned my lesson I still didn’t always use it. If you’r like Walky, there are some classes where you don’t really need to take notes.
…That said, calculus is probably not one of them.
He’s got a superhero making sure his grades are good. Studying isn’t a problem anymore!
He did, but it was a 360º arc.
More like he had a whole arc struggling to study effectively (without much success using traditional methods,) towards the end of which we saw Mike suggesting to Amber that the issue could be less ‘never learned to study’ and more ‘cannot learn with these methods,’ suggesting ADHD. Now, Mike clearly had some big misses in his perception of others, but there’s been a lot of less direct suggestions Walky may have ADHD. (Primarily inattentive type, I think.) One of them being, yeah, he doodles in class instead of taking traditional notes, because that’s a common thing among ADHD people that helps them focus better.
Also Amber changing his grades probably didn’t help, but I’m still suspecting this isn’t so much a problem of ‘chooses not to take adequate notes and study’ as ‘these methods just do not work for him, and he doesn’t have any clue how to find ones that do.’
Something’s worked for him though. Unless Amber changed his grades again, which didn’t seem like the direction things were going.
BEHOLD, a reason why him being mauled by bears is acceptable, an 80’s McDonald’s ad!
But what about Gary? I want to know how their man-marrige is going
I mean.
Man’s got a point.
I’m surprised Wally is old enough to know about the Hamburglar.
The Hamburglar being torn apart by bears. DO NOT EAT.
Counterpoint: “you are what you eat”, therefore the Hamburglar tastes like hamburgers.
But they’re McDonalds hamburgers, so you may be right anyway…
How loud are Joyce and Walky talking? I don’t get the idea that they’re whispering.
They’re in the back row. The whole reason for sitting in the back row is to be able to talk without the lecturer noticing.
Considering Walky drew Jason being eaten by a dinosaur on his notes last semester, I’m not sure what Joyce expected either.
That was Sal.
I take it back, that was Walky. Why was Sal’s name on the paper?
If you look more closely, Sal’s paper is partially folded over – hers ends with “blah blah blah”. Walky’s is underneath hers.
Sal’s paper was the one right in front of Walky’s, it’s being folded down to show Walky’s paper behind it.
Her paper say “blah blah blah” on it, which is perfect.
I don’t know why, but I love “this character needs glasses” arcs. They’re really funny to me. I’ve been wearing glasses since I was a kid, and I vaguely remember being stubborn about not needing them for no reason before giving in, but other than that I couldn’t tell you why.
Maybe it’s just that I think characters squinting is funny.
Walky is Willis confirmed. Or, rather, the part of Willis that drew Sonic the Hedgehog comics in class!
do not eat
Prime Video already love the idea.
I love that Sal’s hair is tagged today
wtf, they’re taking an actual real class???
Poor Joyce, none of her friends are helping her “I do NOT need glasses!” denial.
What? She recognized the Hamburglar getting eaten by bears just fine!
Joyce’s hair looks gigantic in panels 3-5. The after-effects of hat hair?
Why does he even attend lessons, at this point
Well, we know Walky struggled last term… but we got no indication of what his final grade was. (due to the time-jump) But if he’s in this class with the others, I’m assuming he passed.
Still, you’d think he’d at least TRY to write something note-like down, so as to not have that happen again.
He learned nothing because Amber fixed his grades for him.
She fixed his grades before the mid-term. That wouldn’t have saved him, if he didn’t learn anything for the rest of the semester.
She could theoretically have fixed them again, but he’d asked her not to and I don’t see any reason to think she would have done it again.
Was Joyce’s hair always this…big?
And of course he learned nothing from his experience, dumbfuck manchild that he is.
Dismembeared.
I showed this strip to two people I know who don’t read this comic and not even knowing any of the characters they both laughed too.