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“I think the one that wears that thing, and that chick who wears that blue jumpsuit should hook up.”
(Of course Joe knows exactly who is who, and how they differ from their comic book versions, but will never admit it.)
Antman/Hulk is wishful thinking at best. The real ships with meat on their bones are Tony and Bruce (who already have two kids together by the way) or Thor and Hulk whose relationship has been built up over 3 movies from their fight in Avengers 1 one to true bros in Thor 3!
Probably black widow and wasp and captain marvel and pepper Potts…. or his self insert based on iron man with all of the above….. OR black widow and wonder woman
As somebody whose Avengers were the Sixties cartoon kind, and I got tired of that waiting for it to get better, I know I’m not in the target audience anymore.
Now I’m trying to remember which movie Avengers weren’t around by the 60s. The movie versions of Captain Marvel and Ant-Man didn’t, though their earlier namesakes existed. The various Guardians characters didn’t. Falcon and Vision were late in the 60s. War Machine was later. Winter Soldier was still Bucky and still dead.
I think all the other main characters were from the 60s, though some of the supporting cast are more recent.
Look, she isn’t hard to make happy. She ships the biggest slash ship for each character, especially if the popular pairing includes Steve Rogers. Stucky, Stony, SuperBat, probably Stormpilot and Zukka these days. She is not difficult to please.
I mean between Endgame’s… many choices with him, the MCU character’s not particularly compelling at the moment. And the comics version will almost certainly pivot back to ‘endearing loser’ soon enough, but it’s been a weird couple years and we haven’t reached the point where we can forget Civil War II ever happened yet. So there are reasons besides Jeremy Renner. (I don’t even remember the context of Jeremy Renner being noteworthy in shittiness, just that it was significant. The past is mired in fog, and far more distant than it should be.)
A lot of people get mad at Renner because he says a lot of sexist and misogynist shit when he isn’t paying attention to what comes out of his mouth. He may or may not mean it, but the point is that he says it. People really got their undies in a knot (deservedly) when he and Evans did an interview and implied that Black Widow was a slut. They both had to apologize afterward. Add to that the myriad stories about his private life (that frankly, none of us need to know about, especially when we can’t know the validity of the stories) and you get a lot of people who think he is a shit human being.
Mine was on a Winx Club forum, where people were arguing about who Riven should be paired with based on which character would make him suffer the most. At some point it devolved into racist tirades and death threats between two posters that just would not chill the fuck out.
Funny thing is, I used that thread to figure out if a ‘ship I was planning to use for a fanfiction would be a healthier one, and then I just sat back to watch the war.
I was pairing him off with Lucy, as part of an AU where Bloom, Stella, and Musa got into CloudTower instead of Alfea and ended up forming a group of witches with Lucy and Mirta (I’m still working on this one, and I actually plan on publishing it). I figured they’d be a non-tsundere-x-whatever-Musa-is version of the canonical dumpster fire he was a part of.
If I wanted him to suffer, I’d pair canonRiven x canonIcy. He’d be her fucktoy, except for when she used him to piss off Darcy.
I like him and Musa, but I think him and Lucy would be interesting. She has a real desire for approval and he’s not good at feelings so that’d be fascinating.
You might be the first person I’ve met who still actually likes Musa x Riven. I didn’t mind them at first, but their constant fighting post-Nickelodeon takeover got old, fast. As for my fanfic pairing, it has more to do with wanting to write for him (he was one of the better boyfriends, IMO) than anything else.
Was it at least that one manga (I think, maybe it was an anime exclusively) series where his hand got replaced by a classmate with a crush, who was now a tiny, sentient, permanent hand puppet?
I understand Joyce’s concern for Amber but also people shouldn’t have to walk on eggshells around her either. This may sound a little cold but these are Amber’s issues to deal with and she’s the one lashing out. Joyce introduced a new person and Amber took it badly. Mike’s death is still raw for her but that ain’t on Joyce at all and I hate that she feels like she somehow fucked up! Total bullshit!
Joyce really has no modes between ‘no boundaries whatsoever’ and ‘anxiety,’ so it makes sense to me that she does. Still doesn’t mean it’s her fault though, I agree. Amber needs so much more support than she’s received, and I hate that she was starting to make progress before this happened. These kids deserve so much better.
So y’know. Time for the scheduled shouts of DAMN YOU, WILLIS!, so as to sustain their capricious god. We cannot stop their path. We can only curse it, and hope he chooses to hear.
Amber does need support, but they also have a habit of using other people as dumping grounds/punching bags when they really should get some help instead.
Agreed. It is definitely not on Joyce, or anyone else until AmbG are willing to start trying again. But I sure do wish the therapists on campus were even remotely qualified to help, and it sure does sound like they are not.
Actually, no, as ever my big wish is that fucking Blaine hadn’t managed to convince everyone involved that seld-defense classes were the solution to Amber’s trauma, 100%, no other steps that could make it harder for him to abuse her necessary. May you rot in hell with your Walkyverse counterpart, Blaine.
Because seriously, that they push everyone who could actually relate out of hand is a hugeass problem, but even if they tried those problems are way out of everyone else’s pay grade. Competent! Compassionate! Plural-inclusive! Support!
I’m glad the alt-text said it so I don’t have to. Everytime I remember Hawkeye I remember the comic where Spidey had to pretend that Hawk didn’t miss his shot so his ego and self worth wouldn’t be crushed.
If I had a link to that comic I would post it, unfortunately I don’t.
I can’t wait for Joe’s character development to finally start again. It was a great reveal that he’s using this uber-sexual persona to avoid being vulnerable, but I feel like we never get any looks behind the curtaim or hints/allusions to that when he does appear.
Well he doesn’t really have anyone to be vulnerable around with really. He’s kind of keeping a safe distance from Joyce, interactions with Danny are sparse and mostly keeping to ‘safe’ subjects, and we haven’t seen Jacob in a while. And it’s not like he’s going to open up to Sarah, who treats him with cold indifference, or Becky, where it’s basically the equivalent of pitting two betta fish advertising their sexualities against each other.
I don’t ship in the Avengers fandom. Everyone ships gay ships just because of fujoshis and not because of actual romantic tension. Also, romance in the marvel comics and the MCU seems futile.
1)Tony has too many problems. Enough to make Pepper reconsider her life choices.
2)Marvel writers keep killing Peter’s girlfriends, or erasing his marriages, or MAKING GWEN STACY FUCK THE GREEN GOBLIN!!!!
3)THE SUMMERS FAMILY TREE!!!!
4)The incest in Ultimate Avengers!
5)What happened to Wanda and Vision!
6)Deadpool’s love life.
7)Couple in the MCU are as volatile as easily reactive chemicals.
Since when do folks need canon romantic tension to be shipped? I’ve shipped on less interaction than some of the popular but rarely interacting MCU ships.
They’re basically women who are really into the idea of gay ships. The stereotype seems to be that they’re particularly into shipping the prettyboys with each other, too (so I guess in MCU terms, the Caps and Buckys and Tonys).
Some go too far into just being fetishistic though which is why some people use it very negatively or have very negative opinions on it, especially if irl they have been harassed by people trying to do so to them.
It’s too gross for me, since my mental image of Steve and Bucky is still of Bucky as his kid sidekick from flashbacks to the WWII comics. I know the movie versions are different and there’s an adult Bucky around now in the comics, but that’s still my reference.
Aw, I can’t even ship Hawkeye and his ex-wife Mockingbird and her boyfling Lance all at the same time, like in Volume 2 of Mockingbird? Gosh darn it I wish that series hadn’t been cancelled. It was smart, funny as hell, sex-positive…a real treat. And it passed the Bechdel test, obviously.
Seriously, DOA fans should know about Mockingbird, she rules (in her own series, anyway).
I hadn’t heard about that, Spencer, so I went and Googled it. Having done so, I’m uncomfortable buying in on that interpretation. Anyone reading this is free to make their own assessment; for me, I take Cain at her word when she says “You don’t have to have a uterus to be a woman. Anyone who thinks that hasn’t been paying attention” and “If you are trans and feel excluded by MAN-EATERS, that’s on me. Not you. You are glorious. And brave. And, gah. Thank you. I am listening. I am trying.”
I don’t think I knew anybody specifically like that at university, but my god we were exactly that young and stupid. Sarah is making the right face. That’s the same face I make when I think back on all the crap that came out of my mouth back then.
Well, she’s not looking for someone who waits until marriage. The way Jacob does. She does seem to have a preference for tall and muscled, the way Jacob is (and Joe as well). She may be looking for a person of color, though I’d say that’s a tertiary concern at most given how she reacted to Joyce when she was worried it might be racist to try and pair up Sarah and Jacob.
As best I can tell Sarah is looking for “Tall, strong, and handsome, DTF but not too easy”.
Of course I do. The lead male protagonist interact with what appear to be the lead female protagonist and that means they must end up together. EVERYTHING ELSE IS WRONG!
Maybe. There are a lot of them though and it’s been over a 60 year history. There are a lot of pretty obscure characters who were Avengers for about 5 minutes.
Are we including the Dark Avengers, Reserve Avengers, Secret Avengers, New Avengers, West Coast Avengers and the like? I mean, the ones after the 70’s don’t really count.
Seriously, I think I could name everyone who apears in Kurt Busiek’s “Look, it’s literally all the Avengers” storyline from ’98. Eventually. After that it gets a bit trickier.
I mean, I couldn’t list them all off the top of my head. If you showed me a drawing of all of them together though? I bet I could name at least 70-80% of them. More if we only count the ones who were on the team for more than a single storyline
… Sigh. I’ve been giving Joe too much credit for personal growth. Having said that, there’s an unkept messiness to him. Doesn’t seem like the way to be recognized as a probable adult.
Hawkeye for 40+ years was a swashbuckling carnie who lived larger than anyone around him (quite literally that one time he became Giant Man because his bow broke and he was too broke to get a new one) and wore Wolverine’s hat over a decade before Wolverine showed up.
Now he’s just A Guy, but for some reason this stuck.
And Joe wonders why Becky has to continuously remind that she is not interested in him. I look forward to the story arc, where Joe gets woke towards his predatory attitude, with women.
It can be both. Some of Joe’s actions come across as predatory e.g. the list he had, but his desire to be seen as ‘probably a real adult by now’, yeah that is what some preyed upon people think and how they get manipulated. He seems to actively be looking to be preyed on though to feel like he is perceived as a ‘real adult’.
Maybe I'm just an old misery but I can't help but think this official TF April Fools is undercut by the fact that last year saw the release of Transformers-flavoured protein powder.
you can't go "hoho wouldn't THIS be silly" when you've already reduced your brand to that level of slop for real
it would be funny if they released it but it was just a cinema painted on the side of a cliff
DiscussingFilm@discussingfilm.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
‘COYOTE VS ACME’ has been officially saved by Ketchup Entertainment, who bought the film for $50M
They plan to give the film a worldwide theatrical release in 2026.
do y'all remember when they found all that tf art in Osamu Tezuka's drawer post-mortem because I think about it often
anyway keep chasing your bliss and draw weird shit, god knows we need that right now
Today in #9ChickweedLane I learned that I have to weigh which is worse: the cartoonist already forgetting what this guy looks like one daily strip later, or that, yes, he's actually meant to be an old man, not a victim to an older cartoonist forgetting what young people look like
Like any average American, I’m for universal basic income and abolishing the police. I can’t get on board with these ultra-leftists calling for the universal hive mind, though!
maura quint@mauraquint.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
going to start calling myself a centrist and then listing all my leftist views as proof, just going to start moving the overton window by force
I've spent the past few days reading through the entire archive of @damnyouwillis.bsky.social's Dumbing of Age and this has been stuck in my head for about 90% of that time.
… Okay but which Avengers does Joe ship, though?
“I think the one that wears that thing, and that chick who wears that blue jumpsuit should hook up.”
(Of course Joe knows exactly who is who, and how they differ from their comic book versions, but will never admit it.)
Joe ships himself with the lady Avengers.
Surprise. He’s more of an X-persons fan.
I feel called out here.
Actually it’s academic. The Avengers all died during the time skip.
*shiiiips…. anyone with T’Challa?*
Well, maybe not Shuri, that’s not Amber’s kink.
There really should be more T’Challa/Bucky(/Steve). Who knows what happened during all that downtime?
I like to think they’re no top or bottom but they all interchangeablly like to touch penis together.
What, like a tri-dock-en?
T’Chucky?
rip Chadwick Boseman
Well, based on Amber’s habits (most popular slash ship for each) my guess is Tony Stark. Or if, she’s in a fucked up mood, Killmonger.
There was a famous shipping of T’Challa and his dead rival and gave them cat ears.
Still Stucky, yes? Are we down with that?
…which ones are still alive =|
Steve’s retired, so now Amber’s main pair are Ant-Man/Hulk.
She sees a lot of smolder in that scene where Hulk shares his Taco Bell.
So wait, does that mean Amber’s the one who wrote the Stucky article on Wikipedia?
Come now, everyone knows the best ships are between the people who have never interacted on screen before
No, everyone knows that if you’re shipping the film versions you’re doing it wrong.
Not if you ship film version x comic version.
Antman/Hulk is wishful thinking at best. The real ships with meat on their bones are Tony and Bruce (who already have two kids together by the way) or Thor and Hulk whose relationship has been built up over 3 movies from their fight in Avengers 1 one to true bros in Thor 3!
Science Boyfriends forever.
Science Bros would be Antman and Spiderman and their mutual distaste would be Mr.Fantastic, that [scoville-diatribe].
nah, the real ships are Steve/Sam, and Tony/Rhodey
^_^
ah, of course
STUCKYY
Stucky rules Stony drools
How about just doing one big ship of everyone who was on the helicarrier?
Can’t go wrong with the giant fuckpile.
Maybe “helicarrier” can be the term for large scale group shipping?
It is a ship that flies. Not sure you want your ship to go out like the Hindenberg rather than the Titanic, though.
He’s married.
Pfft. Like that ever stopped shippers.
Shippers don’t care about silly things like canon relationships.
Probably black widow and wasp and captain marvel and pepper Potts…. or his self insert based on iron man with all of the above….. OR black widow and wonder woman
You KNOW what wasps do to black widows.
Who would ship that anthropomorphised?
As somebody whose Avengers were the Sixties cartoon kind, and I got tired of that waiting for it to get better, I know I’m not in the target audience anymore.
Really, two thirds of the ones you have now didn’t even EXIST when I was a kid. Though the world is definitely better that they came along.
Now I’m trying to remember which movie Avengers weren’t around by the 60s. The movie versions of Captain Marvel and Ant-Man didn’t, though their earlier namesakes existed. The various Guardians characters didn’t. Falcon and Vision were late in the 60s. War Machine was later. Winter Soldier was still Bucky and still dead.
I think all the other main characters were from the 60s, though some of the supporting cast are more recent.
For me, the Avengers are John Steed and Mrs. Peel. Everybody shipped them.
Oh, yes PLEASE!! Ms. Rigg had just the right chemistry for that part, it’s a shame they didn’t make more seasons.
I think they kinda drove the whole mess over a cliff when they found Mr. Peel next-to-last show.
Oh yeah!
Clearly Stephen doesn’t know this song or would’ve hacked the music system or whatever to play it already.
You’re welcome.
That series was called “Chapeau melon et bottes de cuir” in French (“Bowler hat and leather boots”). Make of that what you want.
I don’t ship Hawkeye with nobody but that big fuckin cliff
Come and get it all, at Boston Pizza.
Look, she isn’t hard to make happy. She ships the biggest slash ship for each character, especially if the popular pairing includes Steve Rogers. Stucky, Stony, SuperBat, probably Stormpilot and Zukka these days. She is not difficult to please.
Stony is a little divisive post civil war especially among Team Iron Man, a lot of people got turned off the pairing
All I know is Amber shipped ’em both last semester.
Last Semester was YEARS ago though and things change.
What? No. Last semester was just last year!
Yeah. Some people have a really distorted time sense.
Please. Last semester is SO last week.
At this point, technically last month.
Specifically, so last September the 8th.
Sarah’s grimace in panel three is very on-brand.
It’d make a great avatar.
Don’t tempt me.
Okay, tempt me.
Is that some kind of Gandalf/Frodo ship?
It’s a great reaction face, though I still think Joyce has had the best reaction faces so far.
As long as their gay it’s good
Would that be Hawkeye slash Radar? Or Hawkeye/Blake?
Burns/Latrine
Is he… talking about Penny? Does Joe have the self-awareness to realize how fucked up that was?
Who was Penny again?
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/twelvethirty/
Thanks.
Now that you mention it I can absolutely see it.
I mean not everyone has to like Hawkeye, but he is very cute with Coulson.
I try not to judge.
Do you mind if I ask the appeal of that ship? I’ve been in the fandom from day 1 and never understood it.
I don’t mind you asking, but I don’t think I can quite explain.
That’s fair. I have lots of ships where I can’t really explain why I like it, I just do.
Is Hawkeye the worst because of the character or because of Jeremy Renner?
I mean between Endgame’s… many choices with him, the MCU character’s not particularly compelling at the moment. And the comics version will almost certainly pivot back to ‘endearing loser’ soon enough, but it’s been a weird couple years and we haven’t reached the point where we can forget Civil War II ever happened yet. So there are reasons besides Jeremy Renner. (I don’t even remember the context of Jeremy Renner being noteworthy in shittiness, just that it was significant. The past is mired in fog, and far more distant than it should be.)
I think part of it is that Hawkeye didn’t really exist in Avengers, maybe?
That’s *Academy* *Award* *nominee* Jeremy Renner.
A lot of people get mad at Renner because he says a lot of sexist and misogynist shit when he isn’t paying attention to what comes out of his mouth. He may or may not mean it, but the point is that he says it. People really got their undies in a knot (deservedly) when he and Evans did an interview and implied that Black Widow was a slut. They both had to apologize afterward. Add to that the myriad stories about his private life (that frankly, none of us need to know about, especially when we can’t know the validity of the stories) and you get a lot of people who think he is a shit human being.
There was also the time he was told about an anti-Romani slur and started saying it repeatedly. Mark Ruffalo did the same thing at the same time iirc.
He did a ton of cocaine and threatened the mother of his child with a gun.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeremy-renners-ex-wife-claims-he-threatened-to-kill-her-put-gun-in-his-mouth
I don’t even know what Renner’s done, but Pratt’s running away with the poop award at the moment.
Last panel punchline got me. Shipping wars are serious business.
Worst flame war I ever saw was over whether a particular character should be shipped with his own right hand… or his own left hand.
Mine was on a Winx Club forum, where people were arguing about who Riven should be paired with based on which character would make him suffer the most. At some point it devolved into racist tirades and death threats between two posters that just would not chill the fuck out.
Damn. Sounds like a fun time. TF gets that heated about Winx Clu – Oh who am I kidding, the fandom was always like that.
Yep.
Funny thing is, I used that thread to figure out if a ‘ship I was planning to use for a fanfiction would be a healthier one, and then I just sat back to watch the war.
Well, now I’m just wondering what you were shipping.
Personally, I would think Sky or Brandon would piss him off the most. They were usually the ones he had the most problems with.
I was pairing him off with Lucy, as part of an AU where Bloom, Stella, and Musa got into CloudTower instead of Alfea and ended up forming a group of witches with Lucy and Mirta (I’m still working on this one, and I actually plan on publishing it). I figured they’d be a non-tsundere-x-whatever-Musa-is version of the canonical dumpster fire he was a part of.
If I wanted him to suffer, I’d pair canonRiven x canonIcy. He’d be her fucktoy, except for when she used him to piss off Darcy.
I like him and Musa, but I think him and Lucy would be interesting. She has a real desire for approval and he’s not good at feelings so that’d be fascinating.
You might be the first person I’ve met who still actually likes Musa x Riven. I didn’t mind them at first, but their constant fighting post-Nickelodeon takeover got old, fast. As for my fanfic pairing, it has more to do with wanting to write for him (he was one of the better boyfriends, IMO) than anything else.
Fandom is as fandom does.
Was it at least that one manga (I think, maybe it was an anime exclusively) series where his hand got replaced by a classmate with a crush, who was now a tiny, sentient, permanent hand puppet?
Left handed Mike?
“Keep your drink just give me the money
It’s just you and your non-dominant hand tonight”
This alt text is Kate Bishop erasure and I will not stand for it. All hail the One True Hawkeye.
HawkGUY, on the other hand? Yeah don’t ship him he’s the worst.
IKR?
I blame Matt Fraction.
I blame the MCU, who turned him into Generic SHIELD Agent, But With Bow.
Also, Civil War II, which was just a bad story for all involved.
I understand Joyce’s concern for Amber but also people shouldn’t have to walk on eggshells around her either. This may sound a little cold but these are Amber’s issues to deal with and she’s the one lashing out. Joyce introduced a new person and Amber took it badly. Mike’s death is still raw for her but that ain’t on Joyce at all and I hate that she feels like she somehow fucked up! Total bullshit!
Joyce really has no modes between ‘no boundaries whatsoever’ and ‘anxiety,’ so it makes sense to me that she does. Still doesn’t mean it’s her fault though, I agree. Amber needs so much more support than she’s received, and I hate that she was starting to make progress before this happened. These kids deserve so much better.
So y’know. Time for the scheduled shouts of DAMN YOU, WILLIS!, so as to sustain their capricious god. We cannot stop their path. We can only curse it, and hope he chooses to hear.
Amber does need support, but they also have a habit of using other people as dumping grounds/punching bags when they really should get some help instead.
Agreed. It is definitely not on Joyce, or anyone else until AmbG are willing to start trying again. But I sure do wish the therapists on campus were even remotely qualified to help, and it sure does sound like they are not.
Actually, no, as ever my big wish is that fucking Blaine hadn’t managed to convince everyone involved that seld-defense classes were the solution to Amber’s trauma, 100%, no other steps
that could make it harder for him to abuse hernecessary. May you rot in hell with your Walkyverse counterpart, Blaine.Because seriously, that they push everyone who could actually relate out of hand is a hugeass problem, but even if they tried those problems are way out of everyone else’s pay grade. Competent! Compassionate! Plural-inclusive! Support!
The gods always .hear., my question is DYW hears our calls, but will He harken to us?
I’m glad the alt-text said it so I don’t have to. Everytime I remember Hawkeye I remember the comic where Spidey had to pretend that Hawk didn’t miss his shot so his ego and self worth wouldn’t be crushed.
If I had a link to that comic I would post it, unfortunately I don’t.
Every character who’s been around for decades has had some crappy writing tearing them down for the sake of making another character look good.
I can’t wait for Joe’s character development to finally start again. It was a great reveal that he’s using this uber-sexual persona to avoid being vulnerable, but I feel like we never get any looks behind the curtaim or hints/allusions to that when he does appear.
Well he doesn’t really have anyone to be vulnerable around with really. He’s kind of keeping a safe distance from Joyce, interactions with Danny are sparse and mostly keeping to ‘safe’ subjects, and we haven’t seen Jacob in a while. And it’s not like he’s going to open up to Sarah, who treats him with cold indifference, or Becky, where it’s basically the equivalent of pitting two betta fish advertising their sexualities against each other.
That last last comparison made me giggle.
A lot.
Speaking of supers, those are some very Wonderella expressions on Sarah.
Her growing disdain fills me with glee.
Thank you for reminding me that Wonderella is a thing!
Frankly I think Captain America and Wonderwoman would be perfect for each other.
I don’t ship in the Avengers fandom. Everyone ships gay ships just because of fujoshis and not because of actual romantic tension. Also, romance in the marvel comics and the MCU seems futile.
1)Tony has too many problems. Enough to make Pepper reconsider her life choices.
2)Marvel writers keep killing Peter’s girlfriends, or erasing his marriages, or MAKING GWEN STACY FUCK THE GREEN GOBLIN!!!!
3)THE SUMMERS FAMILY TREE!!!!
4)The incest in Ultimate Avengers!
5)What happened to Wanda and Vision!
6)Deadpool’s love life.
7)Couple in the MCU are as volatile as easily reactive chemicals.
Not what fujoshi means but whatever.
Since when do folks need canon romantic tension to be shipped? I’ve shipped on less interaction than some of the popular but rarely interacting MCU ships.
They’re basically women who are really into the idea of gay ships. The stereotype seems to be that they’re particularly into shipping the prettyboys with each other, too (so I guess in MCU terms, the Caps and Buckys and Tonys).
Some go too far into just being fetishistic though which is why some people use it very negatively or have very negative opinions on it, especially if irl they have been harassed by people trying to do so to them.
I just ship cap and bucky cuz it makes sense. I mean, who els would understand them and their issued but each other
It’s too gross for me, since my mental image of Steve and Bucky is still of Bucky as his kid sidekick from flashbacks to the WWII comics. I know the movie versions are different and there’s an adult Bucky around now in the comics, but that’s still my reference.
Aw, I can’t even ship Hawkeye and his ex-wife Mockingbird and her boyfling Lance all at the same time, like in Volume 2 of Mockingbird? Gosh darn it I wish that series hadn’t been cancelled. It was smart, funny as hell, sex-positive…a real treat. And it passed the Bechdel test, obviously.
Seriously, DOA fans should know about Mockingbird, she rules (in her own series, anyway).
In my actual life I like Clintasha and Clint with Bobbi. And OT3 yes.
Look, I like to multiship.
Too bad the writer of Mockingbird turned out to be a terf.
I hadn’t heard about that, Spencer, so I went and Googled it. Having done so, I’m uncomfortable buying in on that interpretation. Anyone reading this is free to make their own assessment; for me, I take Cain at her word when she says “You don’t have to have a uterus to be a woman. Anyone who thinks that hasn’t been paying attention” and “If you are trans and feel excluded by MAN-EATERS, that’s on me. Not you. You are glorious. And brave. And, gah. Thank you. I am listening. I am trying.”
Surely Joe isn’t trolling Sarah!
Eh, it’s been a semester. He’s reestablishing his brand.
I don’t think I knew anybody specifically like that at university, but my god we were exactly that young and stupid. Sarah is making the right face. That’s the same face I make when I think back on all the crap that came out of my mouth back then.
What fictional people would fuck seems like something Joe and amber could bond around.
He was really upset that time in gender studies about miss piggie dating someone without a dick
Was he?
Sure was
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/themuppets/
I’m impressed that somewhere before college Joe picked up enough about amphibian reproduction to know this.
What makes him think Miss Piggy has female parts? She’s a muppet! They ALL have mega holes down there. ;P
…dear god, my brain has just reclassified the entire Muppets Show as “fisting videos”.
And the threads: Bondage
Some of the characters need you to get all up in there before they really come alive.
Really? You had to ruin it for the rest of the class?
That is some wicked shocking imagery, I gotta hand it to you.
Can’t wait for the eventual cold open for a new chapter when Sarah wakes up with Joe.
And Joyce is all “YOU SLEPT WITH MY BIG SIS?!”
Go back and look at Sarah’s interactions with Jacob and what she is actually looking for in a guy.
Well, she’s not looking for someone who waits until marriage. The way Jacob does. She does seem to have a preference for tall and muscled, the way Jacob is (and Joe as well). She may be looking for a person of color, though I’d say that’s a tertiary concern at most given how she reacted to Joyce when she was worried it might be racist to try and pair up Sarah and Jacob.
As best I can tell Sarah is looking for “Tall, strong, and handsome, DTF but not too easy”.
I ship Hawkeye with his wife.
It takes all kinds.
Still, I have to wonder if you grasp the essence of the joy of shipping.
Of course I do. The lead male protagonist interact with what appear to be the lead female protagonist and that means they must end up together. EVERYTHING ELSE IS WRONG!
I have never heard such heresy in my life!
I don’t think I could point the name of most avengers
I don’t think most Avengers fans can. The list on the comics wiki takes up more than one screen.
I think you are either underestimating the fans or are interpreting the term too loosely.
Maybe. There are a lot of them though and it’s been over a 60 year history. There are a lot of pretty obscure characters who were Avengers for about 5 minutes.
Are we including the Dark Avengers, Reserve Avengers, Secret Avengers, New Avengers, West Coast Avengers and the like? I mean, the ones after the 70’s don’t really count.
John Steed, Cathy Gale, Emma Peel, um … Tara … King? And Purdey and Gambit. Oh, and the surgeon guy from before Mrs Peel that no-one cares about.
Seriously, I think I could name everyone who apears in Kurt Busiek’s “Look, it’s literally all the Avengers” storyline from ’98. Eventually. After that it gets a bit trickier.
Ah, but could you name all of the names they used in Morgan Le Fay’s alternate reality in that storyline?
I mean, I couldn’t list them all off the top of my head. If you showed me a drawing of all of them together though? I bet I could name at least 70-80% of them. More if we only count the ones who were on the team for more than a single storyline
… Sigh. I’ve been giving Joe too much credit for personal growth. Having said that, there’s an unkept messiness to him. Doesn’t seem like the way to be recognized as a probable adult.
I don’t know… it looks more like a kept messiness to me.
Hawkeye for 40+ years was a swashbuckling carnie who lived larger than anyone around him (quite literally that one time he became Giant Man because his bow broke and he was too broke to get a new one) and wore Wolverine’s hat over a decade before Wolverine showed up.
Now he’s just A Guy, but for some reason this stuck.
Sarah’s face in that third panel.
“I interacted with Joe and I knew that was going to be a mistake before I did it, but I regret it even more than I expected.”
Okay, it’s already a well-known fact that I’ve never seen Jurassic Park.
Looks like now I gotta learn something about Avengers.
Hawkeye is the best!
Hawkeye x Houlihan 4 lyfe (as long as she’s post-Donald, like around season 8 or 9)
Wait… the 4077th?
Best care anywhere!
Houlihan x Winchester, I will die on this hill.
Him?! Dr. Bocce-ball head?
I totally agree with Sarah. But Joe genuinely care about Amber.
Did not see this coming, but I’m starting to like this Joe ~ his unbridled enthusiasm reminds of the sex-ed ghost from the comic “Boo! – It’s Sex!”
Probably not being nearly as safe as he should be, though :T
Last panel Joe — is miming Amber’s desire to punch somebody?
And Joe wonders why Becky has to continuously remind that she is not interested in him. I look forward to the story arc, where Joe gets woke towards his predatory attitude, with women.
i worry for you, joe
(tbh people are saying he’s predatory but this looks more like he’s being preyed on)
what an avatar to have for this comment
It can be both. Some of Joe’s actions come across as predatory e.g. the list he had, but his desire to be seen as ‘probably a real adult by now’, yeah that is what some preyed upon people think and how they get manipulated. He seems to actively be looking to be preyed on though to feel like he is perceived as a ‘real adult’.
I just want to say how much I love how Sarah is being drawn this semester.
I came here to say just that!
Also he already has a wife.