To be fair, gram vs pound is an entirely arbitrary distinction. It’s only when you consider the entire system that there is an improvement in going metric, and by that point, you’re definitely not discussing how much a person weighs. And even then, the arbitrary choice of units in metric is the reason things like eV and natural units exist – we seriously could do better, we just chose not to, because everything being a power of ten feels like a huge improvement at a glance.
Now you know how we feel all the time. I have an old American pickup with an American made Diesel engine. All the engine fasteners are metric! I feel so betrayed. Part of why we hate them-SAE bolts $3.00 a pound. Metric bolts-$3.00 each.
Bruce Wayne, most famous person in Gotham, also spent his first night as a crimefighter in Batman: Year One wearing a “disguise” consisting of some foundation, a fake scar, and a beanie. He then proceeded to get stabbed by a 12 year old, shot by the cops, crash a car, and nearly bleed to death because he was too stubborn to call Alfred for medical assistance.
Maybe take your cues from a more competent version of Batman, Amber. Like Adam West.
Adam West was the one that beat crime so hard that Gotham was a clean, bright place, and who was able to be recognized for his work enough to be accepted by society and the police and able to work completely in the light. The one Batman who wouldn’t have been smarter to solve crime by using his money to improve society, because he’d done so ridiculously well Batmanning it that there was nothing left to improve.
All other versions of Batman only wish they were as good as Adam West Batman.
To be honest, Bruce could have used that technology he develops in secret with his company’s money and improve the security of Gotham without his super hero activities.
He could’ve invested in positive social programs, to keep the vast majority of those baddies off the streets in the first place. And some mental healthcare initiatives for his gallery of villains.
But, Batman.
I mean he did in the new Harleen comic it is shown that he funds research to help the inmates at arkam. Its not his fault the psychologist went insane.
Batman directly fighting one symptom of social ills sells media. Bruce Wayne funding programs that help solve the underlying causes of social ills, and handling funding campaign to get others of his social class to do the same, comparatively doesn’t. The latter is therefore largely depicted as set dressing or as a narrative complication by the writers of Batman comics, while the former is basically the meat of their narrative arcs.
Oh boy are we seeing the development of Amazigirl and her split from Amber? This has nothing to do with Mike but I’m still interested in this story too.
It probably does have something important to do with Mike.
Unless you are just trying to confuse your readers, flashbacks have a specific purpose in a dramatic story. You use them when a character is about to do something (or something is going to happen) that would strike the readers as not right because the don’t know about something that happened, which you couldn’t fit in earlier (as, for instance, because it happened before the initiating incident of the main plot).
That being the case, this flashback is probably occurring now so that we will learn something about Amber and Amazi-Girl that enables us to realise that the next thing she/she does is in character for her/her. This is going to explain why Amazi-Girl incarcerated the Evil Dads in that dry well, and set Mike to guard them with the gimp mask and the hose-pipe. If that just happened now we would say to ourselves “That’s not right. the Ambi-Girl I know wouldn’t do that!” This was its going to feel real to us.
Not sure how long ago this flashback is, though it’s looking to be sometime during their high school years if I had to guess (i.e. after the gas station incident).
Given the sliding timescale of this webcomic: Batman Year One was printed way before they were born, but the animated movie was made in 2011, when they’d be about 9 years old.
I think this is near the beginning of the course of events and developments that led to Amber and Amazi-Girl splitting, but I suspect that the split is a lot more recent than this. I think that maybe we still had Amber playing at being Amazi-Girl as recently as the first week of semester.
It could also be a not-yet-retconned bit of Early Installment Weirdness with the art; one of the early chapters also had Sal going around gloveless in the mornings, until Willis went back a few years ago and drew gloves in.
The split wouldn’t be recent. DID can only develop up until a certain point in childhood due to the way a personality develops to my knowledge but it is likely AG was taking cues from Amber and pretending to be Amber as much as possible until she started to question Amber’s judgement e.g. AG doesn’t see Sal as dangerous, so she must not be dangerous, even though Amber was still terrified of her. It is possible that sometimes it was Amber, sometimes they were co-conscious and sometimes it was AG and because memories were shared, to Amber it just seemed like it was her the whole time when it wasn’t just her.
So because of Blaine’s horrible parenting Amber “split”. I know child abuse caused mental health problems, but he must have been really fucking horrible for Amber to get a vigilante personality.
The Joker was wrong about Batman and Commissioner Gordon, but Amber probably fit what the Joker was trying to get.
Google does that from time to time. Good thing you didn’t search for the symptoms of a disease, the search results would have come up with a deadly disease or cancer.
I read an interesting account by a martial arts trainer, the thesis was “You should be striking with enough force that it doesn’t feel good to follow through. You should not be able to resist the force of your own attacks.”
Trees aren’t alive. You can tell because they can’t play video games, no matter how badly you’d like for them to do it. Life is defined as the ability to operate a PlayStation.
According to the correct definition, both trees and neutered cats are alive. (The correct definition is that they live and breathe and grow, and that is how you know they’re alive. And that’s no jive!)
Judging by your following comment, I presume you’re being partially sarcastic about it all, so I take no offense to what you said. 😉 That said, I’d like to remind anybody who reads the above and thinks that sounds reasonable that up until only a few decades ago, it was the opinion of scientists that animal suffering was not worthy of consideration because as “lesser beings” they either did not feel pain or if they did, it didn’t matter because they were only animals anyway. Those same scientists also claimed that it was perfectly fine to perform surgical procedures like circumcisions on infants without anaesthetic because “they won’t remember it anyway.”
It’s true that plants don’t seem to think or feel pain in the same way that we do, but who knows, maybe they DO and our knowledge of science and plant communication is still too rudimentary to figure that out. As such, I still object to causing any living organism needless injury (by which I mean one should only harm or kill another living creature if you intend to eat it, or if it has potential to cause you or your loved ones immediate harm, like a lion trying to eat YOU.)
The alternative would be that it’s a side-effect of the flashback-blue colour palette. Perhaps you could check a flashback to before The Incident and see whether she has blushes there.
Whether it’s an effect of the palette or something more significant, young Amber has been shown without the cheek-blushes before. In both red and blue panels.
Actually no. I tried googling for a James Roberts connected to Batman, and instead I found one who writes Transformers comics, so I figured it was probably that one because Willis. According to his Transformers Wiki entry, the number 113 keeps coming up in his work. So Amber weighed the James Roberts Number at the time of the flashback, and stopped weighing it later.
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at her height I weighed 130 =p
I… still do actually =_=
You’re still at her height?
That’s a perfectly good weight, too.
Not being american, with y’all’s made up numbers, I have no idea what the weight means at all.
130 pounds is roughly 59 kilos, hope that helps.
Are you English? Then she’s just over 8 stone.
Canadian? She’s 2,260 Timbits.
Cybertronian? 1 Roberts.
Pandoran? The shiniest meat bicycle!
One hundredweight and one pound!
Not all Timbits are created equal. A Honey Dip Timbit will blow away in a light breeze, while a Chocolate Glazed could anchor a small boat.
Are you proposing a Standard Reference Timbit?
Our numbers were made up before yours.
With that logic we should alll still be using the lunar calendar because it was made up before greg’s version.
To be fair, gram vs pound is an entirely arbitrary distinction. It’s only when you consider the entire system that there is an improvement in going metric, and by that point, you’re definitely not discussing how much a person weighs. And even then, the arbitrary choice of units in metric is the reason things like eV and natural units exist – we seriously could do better, we just chose not to, because everything being a power of ten feels like a huge improvement at a glance.
Donkey carts were invented before motorcars.
Trepanning was invented before paracetamol.
Now you know how we feel all the time. I have an old American pickup with an American made Diesel engine. All the engine fasteners are metric! I feel so betrayed. Part of why we hate them-SAE bolts $3.00 a pound. Metric bolts-$3.00 each.
Bruce Wayne, most famous person in Gotham, also spent his first night as a crimefighter in Batman: Year One wearing a “disguise” consisting of some foundation, a fake scar, and a beanie. He then proceeded to get stabbed by a 12 year old, shot by the cops, crash a car, and nearly bleed to death because he was too stubborn to call Alfred for medical assistance.
Maybe take your cues from a more competent version of Batman, Amber. Like Adam West.
No one can be as good as Adam West, though. Not even Adam West.
what about Adam We?
He did once wear bulletproof armor the exact size of a bullet, which takes a lot of stones.
His name’s not Adam We!
…OR IS IT??
Nobody messes with Adam We!
Adam West was the one that beat crime so hard that Gotham was a clean, bright place, and who was able to be recognized for his work enough to be accepted by society and the police and able to work completely in the light. The one Batman who wouldn’t have been smarter to solve crime by using his money to improve society, because he’d done so ridiculously well Batmanning it that there was nothing left to improve.
All other versions of Batman only wish they were as good as Adam West Batman.
To be honest, Bruce could have used that technology he develops in secret with his company’s money and improve the security of Gotham without his super hero activities.
But where’s the fun in that? I mean, Batman!
When someone says “Batman doesn’t have any superpowers” I regularly respond “Bruce Wayne’s wealth is a superpower.”
He could’ve invested in positive social programs, to keep the vast majority of those baddies off the streets in the first place. And some mental healthcare initiatives for his gallery of villains.
But, Batman.
I mean he did in the new Harleen comic it is shown that he funds research to help the inmates at arkam. Its not his fault the psychologist went insane.
He does. It just doesn’t get a lot of play in the movie versions of him, or in the memeverse.
Batman directly fighting one symptom of social ills sells media. Bruce Wayne funding programs that help solve the underlying causes of social ills, and handling funding campaign to get others of his social class to do the same, comparatively doesn’t. The latter is therefore largely depicted as set dressing or as a narrative complication by the writers of Batman comics, while the former is basically the meat of their narrative arcs.
He said different, not dumbass
That is a way to be different, but the wrong one, and appropriate for the title of this comic.
So, it’s HIS fault!
That was my response!
man, I love melee
…Amber, don’t take advice on
crimefightinganything from Frank Miller…Someone get her a What Would Frank Miller Don’t wristband.
The wristband just says “Whoreswhoreswhoreswhores”
Today’s strip is sponsored by Nutrisystem. Which I find deplorable on a societal level.
I’m getting Home Chef. Nutrisystem would be more appropriate.
Oh, and Arrow Electronics.
I’m getting photos of young women cropped at the jawline and mid-thigh. That are apparently “Annie Cloth” brand. But I have no inclination to buy one.
Oh boy are we seeing the development of Amazigirl and her split from Amber? This has nothing to do with Mike but I’m still interested in this story too.
It probably does have something important to do with Mike.
Unless you are just trying to confuse your readers, flashbacks have a specific purpose in a dramatic story. You use them when a character is about to do something (or something is going to happen) that would strike the readers as not right because the don’t know about something that happened, which you couldn’t fit in earlier (as, for instance, because it happened before the initiating incident of the main plot).
That being the case, this flashback is probably occurring now so that we will learn something about Amber and Amazi-Girl that enables us to realise that the next thing she/she does is in character for her/her. This is going to explain why Amazi-Girl incarcerated the Evil Dads in that dry well, and set Mike to guard them with the gimp mask and the hose-pipe. If that just happened now we would say to ourselves “That’s not right. the Ambi-Girl I know wouldn’t do that!” This was its going to feel real to us.
You left out the lotion, but yeah.
Also, I made about a dozen typos. Blame the fever, headache, and coughing.
On one hand, you kick trees long enough, you might learn how to kick properly.
On the other hand, this is a recipe for micro fractures and/or an actual broken foot :/
On the other other hand if you kick trees long enough, they may learn to kick back.
This isn’t Amazi-Girl’s origin story – it’s Groots!
We can at least agree that Amber groot into a different person.
This made me lulz
Or Treebeards origin story. Burárum!
Year Three: Amber becomes the tree
Ya tried tah work on being like James Roberts an’ what did ya do, yah surpassed it by miles
“Different person.” “Working on it.”
ouch
☹︎
What do you mean this chapter didn’t start with the corpse of Mike rising from the ground cause hell sent him back as his work remained unfinished!?
So he was the Doom Slayer all along?!
Only if you don’t want him to be.
How tall is Amber?
In the present day, she’s five feet and two inches: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/find/
Not sure how long ago this flashback is, though it’s looking to be sometime during their high school years if I had to guess (i.e. after the gas station incident).
Awesome, thanks. I’m 5 ft 0 and 113 on good days. It’s cool to see a character built a lot like me!
If she’s already her full height, she’s like 5’3″, iirc.
119 is a skinny girl, but it’s reasonable for her pre-curvy and pre-muscled height/build.
119 isn’t particularly “skinny,” that’s like the midpoint of normal range for her height.
Ah, yeah, I didn’t mean that Amber looks skinnier than an average 14-yr-old who is 5’3″.
I meant, I think that this drawing and these numbers reasonably reflect a 14-yr-old of her height and build.
113 lb is about 51 kg, and 5’2″ is about 157 cm: BMI 20.6
Here, in this flashback? Good question. I’m still trying to figure out how old they are.
College-age Ethan has a lot more height over Amber https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-9-comic/01-flyin-to-the-red/organically/ , so this must be at least before he was 16 and “suddenly became hot”.
Given the sliding timescale of this webcomic: Batman Year One was printed way before they were born, but the animated movie was made in 2011, when they’d be about 9 years old.
I’d guess this is within a year after the gas station incident.
I concur. That was at thirteen for Amber IIRC, so this was about four of their years ago.
Ahhhh, baby Amber and presumably the start of the baby Amazi-Girl
I think this is near the beginning of the course of events and developments that led to Amber and Amazi-Girl splitting, but I suspect that the split is a lot more recent than this. I think that maybe we still had Amber playing at being Amazi-Girl as recently as the first week of semester.
See panel three of the strip in which AG introduces herself. I’m not certain. They could be the shadows of the mask. But I think those are cheek blushes.
It could also be a not-yet-retconned bit of Early Installment Weirdness with the art; one of the early chapters also had Sal going around gloveless in the mornings, until Willis went back a few years ago and drew gloves in.
The split wouldn’t be recent. DID can only develop up until a certain point in childhood due to the way a personality develops to my knowledge but it is likely AG was taking cues from Amber and pretending to be Amber as much as possible until she started to question Amber’s judgement e.g. AG doesn’t see Sal as dangerous, so she must not be dangerous, even though Amber was still terrified of her. It is possible that sometimes it was Amber, sometimes they were co-conscious and sometimes it was AG and because memories were shared, to Amber it just seemed like it was her the whole time when it wasn’t just her.
So because of Blaine’s horrible parenting Amber “split”. I know child abuse caused mental health problems, but he must have been really fucking horrible for Amber to get a vigilante personality.
The Joker was wrong about Batman and Commissioner Gordon, but Amber probably fit what the Joker was trying to get.
I wonder how much time has passed in this flashback strip since the convenience store holdup.
SO IT BEGINS.
(this storyline)
So if this is a semi-finale, we could get a time-skip afterwards that takes us to Winter.
Aw, but then we’ll miss election night. We need to find out if Robin gets reelected!
For those who don’t get the hovertext: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/113_(disambiguation)
Thank you. Google was telling me about a rugby player and some local M.D.
Google does that from time to time. Good thing you didn’t search for the symptoms of a disease, the search results would have come up with a deadly disease or cancer.
I Googled my symptoms once, and it said I had ‘network connectivity problems’. That was scary!
Meanwhile Ethan gains, like, 6 inches and 30 pounds without even trying.
Amber becomes Rock Lee.
I’m pretty sure doing what comic book superheroes do to train is a good way to hurt yourself, unless you have superpowers.
Unless you have script immunity. 🙂
Either that or most of those who start the training do cripple themselves or die – we just don’t get comic books about them.
It’s ok if you are the protagonist. Henchmen would never survive.
“Working on it.” OUCH
yyyyup.
I read an interesting account by a martial arts trainer, the thesis was “You should be striking with enough force that it doesn’t feel good to follow through. You should not be able to resist the force of your own attacks.”
Which suggests that hitting hard, unmovable objects like trees isn’t a good way to go.
Things like punching bags exist for a reason.
In which Amber learned that the real world isn’t really anything like in the comic books!
And then she reshaped the world so that it was like the comic books?
Cause that’s pretty much how Amazi-Girl functions.
The news post about the stakes in this chapter is not terrifying at all. Nope.
The what now? All I’m seeing in the post under the comic is “NEW STORYLINE!”. Is this something on Patreon or Twitter or somesuch? Link?
It is literally on dumbingofage.com and it’s the news post right below the comments.
Apparently there are news posts aside from the ones associated with each comic, which can only be navigated to from the frontpage. TIL.
“The current storyline which begins today, “When It Crumbles,” is sort of a… season finale, in terms of stakes? It’s the end of Year Ten! Stuff is gonna happen! Sometimes scary stuff! I mean, it’s still Dumbing of Age, so we’re not gonna go full thrasher film or anything, but there will be Sustained Sense Of Danger. More danger than usually allotted. Just giving you all a heads up, in case you want to bow out and come back June 23 when the storyline ends so you can read it at your own pace. Or nope out! Your choice, no judgment.”
10 year anniversaries normally involve pain. 😀
But yeah, I’m not looking forward to being on the edge of my seat forever, but I can’t NOT read this daily so…
Yep, same!
While physical fitness and knowing self-defense are all good things, can you NOT train by whacking another LIVING thing, Amber? :/
Trees aren’t alive. You can tell because they can’t play video games, no matter how badly you’d like for them to do it. Life is defined as the ability to operate a PlayStation.
It’s true because of Science.
Crap. By that definition that means I am not alive. (PC Gamer Master Race!)
Living is actually a pretty meaningless measurment. As far as I know plants don’t think or feel in any way I would consider meaningful.
On the other hand my neutered cat has feelings and by some definitions is no longer a living being.
According to the correct definition, both trees and neutered cats are alive. (The correct definition is that they live and breathe and grow, and that is how you know they’re alive. And that’s no jive!)
Sorry, “Breathe and eat and grow”. The version I misremembered is a bit tautological.
Judging by your following comment, I presume you’re being partially sarcastic about it all, so I take no offense to what you said. 😉 That said, I’d like to remind anybody who reads the above and thinks that sounds reasonable that up until only a few decades ago, it was the opinion of scientists that animal suffering was not worthy of consideration because as “lesser beings” they either did not feel pain or if they did, it didn’t matter because they were only animals anyway. Those same scientists also claimed that it was perfectly fine to perform surgical procedures like circumcisions on infants without anaesthetic because “they won’t remember it anyway.”
It’s true that plants don’t seem to think or feel pain in the same way that we do, but who knows, maybe they DO and our knowledge of science and plant communication is still too rudimentary to figure that out. As such, I still object to causing any living organism needless injury (by which I mean one should only harm or kill another living creature if you intend to eat it, or if it has potential to cause you or your loved ones immediate harm, like a lion trying to eat YOU.)
No blushes on her cheeks. Is that a sign she’s already fracturing?
I think that Amber has already told Danny that Amazi-Girl started as an attempt to redirect her anger shortly after the stabbing, yes.
The alternative would be that it’s a side-effect of the flashback-blue colour palette. Perhaps you could check a flashback to before The Incident and see whether she has blushes there.
Whether it’s an effect of the palette or something more significant, young Amber has been shown without the cheek-blushes before. In both red and blue panels.
Bat-Amber vs Super-Ethan: Dawn of Amazi-ness
What is the “James Roberts Number”? I can’t even figure out which James Roberts it’s referring to because there are so many people with that name.
And that’s the James Roberts Number!
Actually no. I tried googling for a James Roberts connected to Batman, and instead I found one who writes Transformers comics, so I figured it was probably that one because Willis. According to his Transformers Wiki entry, the number 113 keeps coming up in his work. So Amber weighed the James Roberts Number at the time of the flashback, and stopped weighing it later.
Try
“James Roberts” weight
Amber takin that joke “Always be your self unless you can be batman, always be batman” a little too literal and too far.
No, Amber.
I’m worried that this storyline will end with Amazi-Girl trying to breathe in space.
Life would be very different for Amber if Ethan and she were fond of slasher movies instead of Batman.