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nice talk, Joe
=|
Those sure wore some words he said.
And your charming personality shines again.
Wrong universe, Joe.
The other shoe is about to drop for Joyce at any moment, I just know it.
Is that the shoe with the broken toenail, or was that the first one to drop?
Okay, who forgot to invite Marcie?
… Oh yeah, she hasn’t really met any of the three onscreen! That needs fixing, clearly. She is the best Ringo.
They already had a Best (Pete Best). Maybe Joe can be him and leave now.
Yeah, that would probably be best.
So who is John, Paul and George?
Mandy is John because she’s short. Grace is Paul because she got into a car crash and was replaced by a lookalike. Sierra is George because she’s the hot one.
Also, if you’re going for later Beatles, Mandy wears glasses, a la John.
Grace is a pod person?
Hmmm, does anyone at the party really know Marcie? She’s not a student at the school, so she wouldn’t be dormmates with anyone, and Sal, Carla, and Malaya are not in attendance.
I suppose Walky would know her, but it would be off for him to invite his sister’s friend to an event his sister isn’t attending.
Joyce knows her because she asked Sal about her previously, when she went to borrow the jacket and gloves.
Amber knows her too from roller derby.
And I can’t imagine Sal wasn’t invited. She hasn’t shown up, but I’m sure she was invited. Becky and Joyce both like her.
Yeah, but recall the last time Sal was invited to a party…I’m not sure if she’ll come, but she might. Everyone’s had little changes since then, so…who knows?
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/walmart/
Like I said, she might show up, she might not. I’m just sure she was told she was welcome.
Now that we’re talking about it – Marcie probably just has crappy retail job shift that she couldn’t swap 🙁
I mean, realistically, yeah, she works a lot of double shifts at Target.
Getting canned from the security gig didn’t help, I’m sure.
Oh, Becky…
Homeless Disaster Lesbian is gonna be pretty good at Coachella, i can feel it
Is Garbage Roof playing? Or will they still be on tour with Blowjob Cat?
THEY FORGOT DUKE OF THINGLY
And the classic rock band Empirical Evidence, with Joyce singing “Detective Love Lesbian.”
I feel like I’ve missed a step here. Everything with Becky and Dina seemed perfectly fine until the very moment of the party.
No, Becky showed insecurities over the relationship when she bought the giant dinosaur
AH! Right you are, thanks. It all makes a lot more sense once I consider that, in order to get what she wants out of life and be with her girlfriend, she has had abandon any ideals or morality. So yeah, guilt!
Now I just wonder if she resents Dina for NOT judging her for her actions.
Things between Becky and Dina ARE perfectly fine.
That’s actually part of the problem, I’d wager.
Becky’s self esteem is garbage, so she consistently feels she’s unworthy of Dina. And the longer Dina doesn’t realize that Becky isn’t good enough for her, the worse it’ll be when she does. So she needs to Be Perfect so she can Be Worthy of Dina.
Why would Dina think that?
She wouldn’t, that’s just what the insecurity thinks Dina is thinking
Exactly.
Because Becky is a Homeless Disaster Lesbian, who is Unworthy.
Sure, if you asked Dina what she thought on the matter, she’d disagree. But Becky’s low self esteem knows. It’s only a matter of time before Dina sees her in the Harsh Light of Day.
See Becky, the trick is we’re all disasters. Even the straights. Maybe.
UGH, ESPECIALLY the straights.
the straights only seem less like disasters because barely any of us know how not to be a disaster. Or even that we’re disasters in the first place.
So, we’re being graded on a curve then?
NGL, to an outside observer straight folk seem like PLENTY disasters. Can we talk about misogyny for a minute and how guys disrespect a group they spend their life with? Or how crappy straight sexuality has been for women? Or housework and childrearing disparities? (Probably feels like I’m picking on men, I honestly believe our culture hurts straight men just as much but in ways we don’t acknowledge as damaging)
The baseline normal for heterosexuality in our culture is a disaster, IMHO.
So true.
Women can wear literally anything we want. Any color. Pants or skirts. Fuck, I knew a girl in highschool who sewed her father’s reject ties together into a skirt. It was fucking awesome.
Men’s clothes are SO BORING… because of restrictive gender roles.
So join us, male types, in throwing off the shackles of the restrictive social norm! Wear any color! Throw off your butt prisons and wear skirts, dresses, or kilts!
As a previously male-identifying, I fully endorse your message.
Oh, yes, it hurts men. From a psychological stand-point, men suppress SO MUCH. Men are encouraged not to feel emotions unless they can be channeled into aggression, meaning that guys can’t adequately express sadness, affection, fear, concern, etc. This perpetuates the stereotype that men need to be brutes. Any men who are incapable of filling this role adequately are scorned and belittled, creating severe self-esteem issues and depression from the pressure to conform to this ideal (similar to how women feel the pressure to be feminine and attractive, but slightly more constricting because women are allowed to express their emotions more openly preventing some of the culturalized mental damage). Before people jump to yell at me, I’m not saying men have it worse than women, only that in the specific area of personality, men are more restricted than women because it is ok for a woman to be tomboyish, but any little hint of perceived femininity in a man is automatically punished.
Men are also restricted in acceptable jobs. Admittedly, the jobs that men are expected to have are more well-paying, but it still is a restriction for men to not have careers that they may be more happy with. Men are derided for having jobs as nurses, flight attendants, dancers, receptionists, fashion-designers… If a guy has these jobs, the message is that he must be gay. Look at any movie or tv show. If a straight man has these jobs as careers, it’s used as a joke to poke fun at someone for assuming. But we assume because that is what media has told us for years.
End of the day, men may be “in charge” but that doesn’t make it a good thing. For the women OR the men.
As a straight, can confirm.
Straight guy here, definitely disaster.
They are often bend out of shape.
Now, you wouldn’t be implying that The Straights, whose descriptor includes a word implying a lack of bent-ness, you wouldn’t be implying they might be occasionally bent, now would you?
I used to think I was straight, and I’ve been a disaster since the 1990s.
**puts on College Lecturer outfit**
Actually, “Disaster Lesbian” refers to lesbians who get tongue-tied around their female crush. It’s apparently a commonly used term, but I had to look it up the first time I saw it too.
Apparently this stems from the idea that “normal” lesbians don’t have trouble talking to their crushes because “hey, we’re all women” so they can be super casual about it. Which is NOT my experience at all, or it wasn’t when I was dating in college. So guess I’m a “disaster lesbian” too inspite of being bi.
Oh, and if this thread was a joke and you already knew what the term meant, then —
**sticks out tongue, blows a raspberry, and runs away**
In my experience the term “Disaster Lesbian” has kind of morphed into having trouble not just talking to crushes but also having trouble with existence. Due to mental health issues, self esteem, etc, it’s turned into a sort of “I am not successful at existence unlike other people, for example I can’t even tell when someone is flirting!”
It’s not super healthy. Or rather, super not healthy.
This information is coming from my experiences on tumblr and reddit with the lesbian communities there.
As one who’s considerably straight but far from appreciative of the female form and fully supportive of all non-harmful walks of life, I can 2.5M% agree: deep down, we’re all nothing but disasters just barely masking a semblance of having it together while constantly getting dragged out to surging storm waters, drowning, surfacing and drowning over and over and over again all the while choking out “I’m OK!”
“Come together”.
“Right now”
“Over me”
So long as Becky doesn’t have a fit at Dina over this, there’s no harm in venting insecurities.
Spend time with your girlfriend, Becky.
Can’t, she’s too busy proving herself worthy of doing that!
Joe’s usually the one spending the parties in the bedroom
Which is the reason he’s mentioning that there’s only one, and that it’s occupied. In his mind this would be a better party if there were spaces for shagtimes.
“Gimme a beat, Ringo! I’m ready to sing now.”–John Lennon
JUST TAKE HER TO THE MUSEUM, BECKY!!!
“HER PLACE IS IN A MUSEUM” — Indiana Jo–Becky
good job, i guess, joe
Yeah, a party like this seems kind of odd for the two guests of honor, neither of which are accustomed to such socialization
Hence the Quiet Room. But even though Dina finds too much socialisation overwhelming, it’s not necessarily that she doesn’t enjoy it (see: her at Joyce’s party). And Sarah is actually having a Top 5th birthday.
Becky did a good job. But yeah, crippling insecurities…
She enjoys it in moderate doses, given enough downtime between them to fully absorb and analyze the experience.
Are you kidding? I’ve been refreshing since 12:02 am and then I make a completely new window only to see all you’re comments here.
We’re all commenting via TARDIS, don’t worry.
Ringo? Is this some new slang the kids are saying and I’m just old? Or is it something else and I’m just being dumb?
Ringo was a member of the Beatles, which had four members. Mandy/Grace/Sierra is a relationship with three people and Joe wants to be their fourth.
Yeah, it took me a minute to figure that out. Ringo? WTF?
I just assumed it was some old reference I was too baby for. Like a bad early 90s sitcom or something
Look at this fossil, too old for Beatles jokes.
I suspect the issue may actually be being too young
What’s the opposite of a fossil, then? An OOPAT?
Oh, Joe, you poor delusional fool. You’re more like a Yoko.
I can imagine Joe in a hipster dress and doing abstract art with white stuff objects.
I’m gonna ask it now, has Joe become a background character?
Drama = plot, and since Joe has run away at the merest hint of the former, he’s not really around for much of the latter.
Not that I think he’s making good decisions! (Also, I’m pretty sure Joyce is going to talk to him about Jacob at some point, and he might not run away from that one.)
Feel like a lot of characters go between somewhat significant and background depending on the arc.
Dorothy is barely as relevant these days really. It’s what happens when the plot focused on a lot of Joyce/Becky/Billie/Amber stuff.
Joe’s always been kind of a background character – other than his one story arc. Second tier at best.
He’s mostly only gotten focus when he’s interacted with one of the main characters.
Shan’t the Ringo in this sitch be, like, Agatha? Other Rachel? Roz???
Cause they’re either gonna be The Ronettes or The Supremes, or The Shangri-Las or The Shirelles…
*casually plays The Dixie Cups’ Chapel of Love on the hacked Muzak*
(I wonder if Becky just got lucky, in a good way)
As we can see the more adult Becky thinks the closer her tie becomes to knotting itself.
Though seriously Becky you know your girl doesn’t do social interaction well. Go find your dinobabe!
Money, power and fame are pointless if they can’t get what you want, and Becky just wanted to make her girlfriend happy. The problem is that Dina doesn’t need all those things to be happy. She only needs Becky… and a giant dinosaur bought with blood money from a political campaign.
In fairness she didn’t need the dinosaur until she saw it…
Have to admit, my toddler reacted almost as strongly to a giant unicorn plushie in a shop. I didn’t buy it… The 5 year old would also have wanted one had she seen it and we don’t have room for one of them let alone two!
Joe has left the conversation
Joe is a walking violation of Wheaton’s Law. I wanna know who the fuck invited him to this party.
Not seeing anything particularly dickish here.
He approached Becky to compliment her on the party and ask about where Dina was, presumably out of some amount of concern.
Becky decided to take that opportunity to kind of randomly fish for reassurance about her poor self-image by being self-deprecating. Yikes-ing out at that point is absolutely fine.
Am I the only one seeing something weird with Joe’s jawline in panels 1, 3, and 4? Panel 3, in particular, looks like a streak of white-out from his ear to his chin.
(or, I dunno, for some strange reason he smeared toothpaste or something on there)
(I actually suspect a layer mismatch in the graphics program, but there’s something that makes me want to imagine Joe having a toothbrushing mishap, and then just going “Meh, whatevs” and walking away in a funk instead of wiping and/or washing it off.)
Joe: *hits on chicks*
Someone hit upon: Gee, you really smell nice and minty fresh!
Joe: OK, I deserve that.
It’s the light shining on his face.
In panel one, it’s clear that the white line is a strip of light. Panels 3 and 4 are weird looking because the outline of his jaw is broken.
Joe – Dealing with machismo and not sure what path to take in life, so sinking it into being a dudebro as it’s all he knew before even though it’s not as satisfying anymore
Joyce – Dealing with a crisis of faith and feeling like a complete monster
Becky – Dealing with major self esteem issues and not feeling good enough
Mike – Dealing with feeling like he has to be the jerk even if he doesn’t want it anymore
Amber – Dealing with feelings of what she has done for Walky, if it was a good idea, or if it will have massive repercussions
Walky – Dealing with “How Much Food Can I Fit In My Gullet?”
This kinda gave me insight what is going on with Mike. Like he might be realizing that he’s dug himself so far into his antagonistic persona, and now he realizes that he can’t really dig.himself back out.
I might be on the wrong track but I think that Becky’s suddenly realised that, yes, Joe has a point: She hasn’t seen Dina for a while either!
Ringo is apt here, because he wasn’t even the best drummer in the Beatles.
DoA Book 10: This Talk’s Becoming Heartfelt, So I’m Out
Never change jo. Actually. Do change. But just enough to not be a sleezebag
I love how Joe has consistently shown that underneath his toxic elements is a genuinely good heart. As he grows as a person I could very well see him becoming a great example of positive masculinity.
It’s OK Joe, you’ll always be our Starr.
So does this make Guns Pete Best?
A “Disaster Lesbian” sounds like the equivalent of a “Dire Rat”
Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don’t believe they exist.
Stand on a New York subway platform at 2a.m. and watch them run down the track.
**puts on wisdom fairy costume**
“Disaster Lesbian” is a term/meme that refers to lesbians who are nervous or unable to speak properly around their lady crush (as Becky was initially tongue-tied around Dina).
Girls: With you? No.
Ringo star. Also known as “The Beatle Who Did Very Good And Who’s Songs Will Be Put Up Right On The Fridge!”
Also known as Sir Ringo Starr, thank you very much.
He still releases the occasional laid-back solo album.
He was Marge’s favorite!
Sad Becky is so painful to see.
Oh Becky I wanna give you all the reassurances right now
Dina already tried that!
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-10/01-birthday-pursuit/successful/
Hey Joe, where you gonna go
with that gun in your hand
Joe looks good with stubble and unstyled hair.