I think eew is an appropriate response to Danny assuming she is the one who needs to apologize, when he is the one who suddenly decided that the important part of her life that gave a constructive outlet to her violent tendencies had to go. A part she saw as giving her life value. I can understand why she thinks she needs to apologize, but Danny is just being clueless.
…riiight.
Because nearly calling him a piece of shit and dumping him on the spot for talking to his friend totally doesn’t warrant an apology. No he needs to apologize for recognising that the amazi girl thing is dangerous and unhealthy. Totally.
Or you know, he knows Amber and he knows she’s not calling him out for not apologizing to her, but that’s not a thing she would do and not how she would do it.
“I mean… I guess if you want to apologize…” is not exactly him thinking she needs to apologize, but him thinking maybe she wants to?
Danny is not being clueless. Danny is reading Amber correctly.
Pretty much everyone in the universe agrees that communication is one of the most important thing in a relationship. Amber dumped him just for broaching the topic of easing off the vigilantism. You cant have a relationship if you cant have a conversation. An apology is definitely warranted.
He was dating Amazi-Girl, not Amber. It was Amazi-Girl who dumped him.
For telling her he liked Amber better and wanted Amazi-Girl to be let out less. At least that’s one way to look at it.
It’s possible Amazi-Girl owes him an apology, but it’s Amber who feels she does.
The distinction between Amber and Amazi-girl is helpful for Amber’s mental processing but ultimately they are one individual. One can’t truly wash their hands of the others actions unless Amber is suffering from a complete psychotic break.
I kind of felt like he was gay in the original verse, but in denial. He specifically said that only Amber (ick) could change him from a 6 on the Kinsey scale to a 3. And what about his behaviour felt like actual sexual attraction, as opposed to (unconsciously) trying to act “right”?
Nah. While the presentation in question was specifically aimed at Amber his point was having sex with her would change his Kinsley scale. He never said only, just that she would if she did.
Remember he did end up finding a stable relationship in the end with a woman named Wren.
You’re thinking of pansexuality. That’s not the same as bisexuality. Bisexuality is a sexual attraction to two genders/gender identities/gender expressions, often defined as “Male and female”. Pansexuality is sexual attraction regardless of gender/gender identity/gender expression.
Nope nope nope nope. Bisexuality is attraction to both people of the same gender as you and people of different genders than yours. It’s pretty much interchangeable with pansexuality except that people may prefer one or the other to describe themselves
I’m not sure there’s broad consensus on this, but I think it is slightly more common to class bisexuality as signalling two attractive genders, but not limited to the *gender binary*. After all, “bi” means “two”, but it doesn’t say anything about “man and woman”.
My take- bisexuality is “I am attracted to that person and their gender/sex is part of it”, whereas pansexuality is “I am attracted to that person and their gender/sex is NOT part of it”.
For me as someone who has used both labels: Pan is what I use when I don’t feel like dealing with biphobes and prefer to deal with teacher mode. They are pretty much synonyms for me. Most bi folks I know take bi as “same and different genders.”
The ‘bi’ in bisexuality does not refer to two genders. It’s a common misconception, but it actually originates from the time when psychologists believed in ‘sexual inversion’, that is to say, that gay men had female brains, and lesbians male ones, etc. But then what do you do about these pesky bi people? Well, they’ve got two types of brain at once! The original term used was ‘psychosexual hermaphrodite’, but this was somewhat of a mouthful, so they used the botany term ‘bisexual’ instead.
Go to any major website for the bi community or read any piece of bi literature, and you’ll see that they rarely tie things down to two genders. One of the most popular definitions dating back to the 90s is Robyn Och’s declaration of “the potential to be attracted—romantically and/or sexually—to people of more than one sex and/or gender, not necessarily at the same time, not necessarily in the same way, and not necessarily to the same degree.”
(Also, NB bi person here attracted to all genders, hi.)
This.
I get really sick of people trying to use the “bi” in the word as evidence that those who prefer that term are stuck on a two gender dynamic.
To add to the above, bisexual also refers to three different spots location on the Kinsey scale (2, 3, and 4). Pan, Omni, and other similar terms are more detailed orientation descriptors but either have no place on the Kinsey scale or can only exist as solid 3s, depending on how strict your definition of what the Kinsey scale measures is (I’ve heard pan-identifying people go both ways – ha pun – on this – either that pan cannot be measured on Kinsey or that Pan is always 3).
Why is this important? Well, I identify as bisexual because I am a 4 on it – I am a person who is attracted to anyone regardless of gender BUT has a minor preference for those who present as female (my gender).
I cannot be pan or omni because those have no preferences for a specific gender. By liking everyone, but liking women slightly more than everyone else, the only term that applies to me is bi.
This is why broadly claiming that bi individuals “cannot” be attracted to all genders is both BS and terribly harmful.
As a bi person in a relationship with a non-binary person, I take exception to that. Bisexuality has been defined as “same and other genders”, and has explicitly included non-binary identities since at least 1990. (Look up Bisexual Manifesto.) I identify as bisexual rather than pansexual because my attraction to people of my gender (female) is distinct from my attraction to people of other genders (male, non-binary, etc), but, like most bisexual people, I don’t consider my sexuality to be limited to binary orientations.
As FinalOwen said, that’s a myth that originated from cishet outsiders labeling members of the LGBTQA community without their consent. Ultimately, the sources you should use when defining a sexuality are people who identify with that sexuality, full stop.
Wait, you take exception to me agreeing with FinalOwen (who you also say you agree with) and adding an additional argument to support his point? Or were you talking to someone else up the thread?
Because I also agree with everything you said. You and I appear to be very similar in our views, so I would hate to think that I had somehow made it sound like I was arguing against the point of view I support.
Based on the indents, it looks like Portland disagrees with AutobotDen, not you. Fwiw as a nonbinary person who IDs as bisexual I super agree with you and Portland and appreciate you both speaking about it <3 your explanation was super helpful for me, too, in figuring out why I never much identified with the pan label. I also have a preference for fem presenting people so it doesn't seem right to say I am pan but that doesn't stop me from sometimes being attracted to masc or nonbinary presenting people so. Bi works best for me
That’s pretty much it. The Great Faz doesn’t fall into normal conceptions of sexuality. Much like Mike’s orientation is “whatever you don’t want it to be”.
Faz is 15. But the fact that he’s distinctly underage is a significant component of why his being aggressively sexual at literally everyone he’s actually interacted with grosses people out. (Another significant part is the fact that he is aggressively sexual at literally everyone he interacts with.)
There’s a difference between someone saying “welp, this person hit on me, guess I’m never into their gender again lol” and literally saying a not-straight person is straight. I took the comment to be a tongue in cheek look at Danny’s PoV it hit on by Faz.
Yeah, what Jason said. Same kinda deal as getting a massive hangover, swearing off alcohol forever, then having a “Morning Margarita”. That’s a thing Humans do, right?
Morning Margaritas are a thing, but I personally prefer the venerable ‘Shower Beer’, usually one of the last beers left in the bottom of the cooler/refridgerator from the night before, drank in it’s entirety in the span of a five-minute shower the next morning. Very good for staving off hangovers.
He let himself continue to care about his friend and be willing to help her out. She doesn’t believe she deserves it, but she knows she can depend on him, because he’s a very good egg
Why? This Faz limits himself to saying inappropriate things, Shortpacked!Faz actually tried to touch people, delighted in making people uncomfortable and committed actual felonies on the regular. The only way you could think that Shortpacked!Faz was the better person was if you took into account the fact that Shortpacked! is a comedy and as such creepy behavior is more tolerated then it is in a realistic work.
Shiro didn’t say that SP!Faz was a better person, just that they liked him better in SP!.
I agree, honestly. Mostly because THIS Faz is apparently a high schooler, and this behavior from a high schooler is somehow creepier to me. I don’t think I could explain why, though.
Him being a high schooler does add the possibility that it’s just extreme immature behavior that he’ll grow out of. In some ways I can see it making him creepier, but I can also see for some it makes it not as bad.
Faz has only limited himself to saying inappropriate things so far, and even so that doesn’t make it ok. Furthermore he’s made it more than apparent that he’s more than willing to go beyond that if he wouldn’t get arrested for it.
Like a lot of things that made the translation from SP to DoA, this Faz is less over-the-top cartoony and more realistically unpleasant. Hence he inspires a more visceral DO NOT WANT reaction in me. There’s also probably something to be said for time dulling reactions vs ones that are currently occurring.
I don’t believe I said anything about being a better person.
Yeah, I was also going to point out the difference in story telling style. Over the top “wacky hijinks” were the norm in SP!, here they are not. People were similarly extremely uncomfortable with Robin’s behaviour with Leslie for the same reason. It wasn’t- and isn’t- over the top absurdity without grounding in something looking like reality any more.
I think you just explained why me and my friend seem to be the only ones who don’t hate characters like robin and mike. We still don’t see them as something to be taken seriously because we still see it as a goofy webcomic, just with serious themes. We all thought you lot were crazy for taking them so Seriously.
On one hand, I would love that. On the other, Danny and Sal seemed like a fun proposition. Then there’s Danny/Ethan, which I personally haven’t found that intriguing, but I know some people root for being a thing.
I feel like a proper Amber-Danny relationship would allow him to help her with her mental problems (or at least get her to someone) and ALSO be the Oracle to her Batman.
Yeah, here he’s still in training wheels. Boners, bondage, and girls’ showers…oh my! He’s only -just- discovering what *shudder* tickles his fancy. ew…ick His creep factor intensifies, exponentially.
Iam sure that guy in the back and the one near the front have not moved since danny and Amber & Faz came in, perhaps this interaction is happening in a short moment of time.
I don’t think that it is possible to promise not to repeat a behavior. The best that you can do is promise to try your best not to repeat it. I think that we are all doomed to do things that we would rather not have done, and then, lather, rinse, repeat. Keep trying, though, damn it, keep trying. Someday we may beat our demons and come out better.
plus there’s all kinds of minor things that you *know* you’ll eventually do again, but apologise for anyways. like bumping into someone, or being late. heck, even if you’re late on a regular basis, the apology is still worth something: you’re acknowledging that it happened and implying that you do at least *want* to improve.
Exactly. Plus, it’s also in the way you apologise. Different situations call for different kinds of apologies.
Now if one apologises for having hurt someone pretty deeply (emotional wise, and non-abusive, like e.g. a trust issue in a relationship or sthg like that), and wants to express how much they are sorry for it, they still cannot exactly promise to never hurt another person (or the party involved) again in the same or a similar circumstances. One can definitely try, and as you said, that’s what matters most.
Though depending on the situation, it probably also matters just how MUCH one can see that the other person tries. (I mean, you all probably know all this, I’m just really spouting my thoughts here, a bit like thinking loudly).
Like this example going through my head (not exactly fitting, but also not unfitting): There’s a difference between e.g. an alcoholic promising to never drink again and then just some weeks later get drunk at an after work-party without any possible reason besides “The others invited me to”, and an alcoholic who’s sober for quite some time and then just relapses one evening after a series of failures because of work stress, family stress (or other extremes) and whatever and everything became too much for them. The first didn’t exactly try to keep their promise (especially if the same thing happens again), the second did try, but then couldn’t handle it. There’s probably a significant difference between a “sorry” between those too. (Also for the sake of the thought experiment, let’s just say both are non-abusive when drunk but drinking is just very bad for their health because they have liver problems and they promised their families to take care of themselves).
To be honest though, I think this is probably because Amber saw the abuser’s apology too often. Apologising but nothing changes. And what does she fear more than becoming her father…?
So she won’t apologise unless she can GUARANTEE change, which is going to the other extreme. And going to extremes is common when subconsciously trying to rebel against- or placate- parental figures.
Jason, that, exactly. An apology needs to come with a promise to at least TRY to change (because sometimes change is hard), and the person apologizing needs to be transparent in the future for HOW they are working to change.
But all of that is a lot more nuance than people who’ve dealt with ongoing, systemic abuse are capable of, many times. They’ve seen too many false apologies.
Ah, jeez. This hits a little close to ome. Amber has a point in Panel 5, but I can’t help thinking she’s stopping too early. Apologies are great, until they do it again. That’s what I fucking wish my mom would learn (she’s back at her abusive boyfriend’s place, despite promising not to).
Exactly. That’s why Danny is totally okay with her not apologizing at all.
He’s probably wise to roll with it though, while pointing out he doesn’t feel that its necessary. My first instinct would’ve been to either argue explicitly that no apology was needed, or that she should let me decide for myself whether I want to accept it, and that would probably just lead to her pushing back harder and shutting me out again. Danny’s much gentler reaction is the way to go.
1. Introduce character with wacky quirk, half of fandom hates them, half of fandom loves them. (With variations based on how much the character is meant to be liked)
2. Reveal shocking plot twist that explains all of the characters behavior and makes them super sad.
Corrolary: These auxiliary graphs relating enjoyment percentages to degrees of arousal, using outline drawings, demonstrate that Faz requires more data points.
–Dave, volunteers would be accepted, were they to exist
Faz assumes that half of your commenters are female. If half the commenters enjoy Faz, this means all female commenters enjoy Faz, and therefore want to have sex with him. This logic is clearly flawless.
Sorry if that was discussed on yesterday’s comic or the one before that, but I think it is very indicative of Amber’s character that she hasn’t even thought of letting someone else deal with this unwanted intruder.
I mean, she tried with Ruth, but one might argue it would have been Ruth’ obligation to help remove him from campus, in her capacity of RA, and Amber could have called upon this obligation.
Whether Ruth would have agreed, is another matter entirely, but my point is Amber implicitly or explicitly thinks she has to take it all on alone.
You know what? I’m really glad I was too much of a coward* in my teens to try and flirt or ask someone out; because I’m pretty sure I’d have said something extremely stupid and inappropriate* anyway.
**That is, more stupid and inappropriate than the things I already said as a teen.
Same. Spending my most stupid years more wrapped up in proving my self worth through silly hobbies rather than in romantic prowess saved me A LOT of stupid and inappropriate memories.
Fair point, but Faz is that stupid and inappropriate taken to ridiculous extremes. Most of us say stupid and inappropriate things, but we feel embarrassed or ashamed of them and react somehow – stammering and apologizing, passing it off as a joke, something.
Faz calmly states them as facts.
Most teenage boys get inappropriate erections – they’ve got little control over it, but they try to hide it, wait for it to go away. Faz announces it to the world.
Once again, I’m left with the impression that I want people in this comic to give Amber a lot of hugs. (Except Faz, because… well, Faz. XD) In some ways, she really reminds me of my younger self in the darker periods for my mental health, and that… REALLY makes me want to hug her. Actually, can I teleport into this comic for the sole purpose of giving a lot of these kids a hug? (Only if they’re cool with those, of course.)
For being a jerk to him largely because of the Amazi-girl divide. For yelling at him, for freaking out about him talking to Sal.
And of course because Amber sees herself as a monster, she makes everything she’s done much worse in her head and doesn’t trust herself not to repeat it.
Nope. Erections are physiological reactions. And btw that kind of mindset is exactly why there is systemic discrimination against male victims of sexual abuse.
BECKY IS AWESOME AND YOU ARE SOME KIND OF LARVAE STAGE SEXUAL HARASSER CREEP, I DON’T WANT YOU TO PARALLELL BECKY’S JOURNEY NO MATTER HOW GOOD A STORY IT WOULD BE!!!
Faz has so far:
– Shown up from the blue
– Had a tour through the wing, met some of the cast
– Tagged along to class and said something inappropriate.
While
– Completely dodging any discussion about why he is here
– Having an evil, horrible father (who incidentally, the only people he know can stand up against is his cool sis)
There are VERY heavy parallells to both Becky and Howard, so I’m really scared about where this is going.
Also – Faz ran into both Becky and Ruth early in his story arc to serve as visual reminders of their respective stories. I think Amber will have the big sis to Faz that Ruth is to Howard before this arc is over.
I wonder what Amber’s reaction would be to someone actually trying to hurt Faz? She seems to care about him at least a little, but would she go full mama bear and but the shit out of anyone who actually threatened him?
Actually, Amber, that serves as both an apology and an explanation in my book: You’re sorry but you are also aware that your mental health issues make it impossible for you to promise that you won’t have any further episodes. This is just me but I suspect that’s enough for Danny.
There’s something weird about Faz’s behaviour. I’m wondering if someone slipped him an amphetamine or something similar without his knowledge and his flying high on it it?
You have to decide wherever the apology or the person is worth more to you. There are things that are unforgivable and then there are things that you can forgive and at those are the ones where you want them to apologize because of your ego or just want them to apologize to have them back.
Sometimes you just need to let go.
True, but that doesn’t really apply here. The problem is that Amber is about 120 pounds (…total guesstimate) of self-loathing and depression. Danny clearly has no hard feelings about anything that’s happened, so no apologies are, strictly speaking, needed. It’s Amber that’s insisting that she needs to apologize, and that she can’t rightfully apologize.
Well, it wasn’t really jealousy-induced. (I’m still half-asleep, please forgive the error.) More like “SHE IS MY MORTAL ENEMY, HOW DARE YOU TALK TO HER.”
So basically I guess all of her trauma-related issues that messed up their relationship, more or less.
I really hope she starts talking to a professional soon.
The split personality issues played a huge role there. Without being quite aware of it, Danny told Amazi-Girl that he liked Amber better and wanted Amazi-Girl to go away.
Little wonder Amazi-Girl broke up with him.
And, given the relationship between those two, little wonder Amber’s taking the blame for it.
i think there is a good reason faz is in this arc and its more than just to annoy amber and creepy everyone else out though i think it will be a while before its revealed..
Hmm. Off topic from the Faz story, but… do the Questionable Content cast exist in DoA? Or any of the other comics that the Walkyverse has crossed over with?
And are they ALSO variously aged up or down, in one of the halls we don’t see? Like… the Briscoe Quadrangle, chosen at random? But still at the ends of their character arcs from QC? While also avoiding QC’s romantic turf (so like, probably this is the universe where Marten and Faye are dating, but Faye’s already butch and hardcore and recovering from alcoholism, and Marten’s… moved on to different kinds of obscure music?)
Who is more potentially joke-offended by this prospect: Jacques or Willis?
Anyway Faz is great. Like obviously he’s awful and makes the characters and the readers uncomfortable, but that means he is performing precisely as intended by the author, and achieving a very effective emotional reaction that makes the story stronger overall. So like… in that sense, Faz is great.
His greatness can be seen on this graph. The arrow represents upness.
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eew
It also sounds as if you think that adding Faz to this doesn’t make everything better… 😛
“This chart shows all of the things that cannot be improved by the addition of Faz. As you can see, it is completely blank.”
<3
I think eew is an appropriate response to Danny assuming she is the one who needs to apologize, when he is the one who suddenly decided that the important part of her life that gave a constructive outlet to her violent tendencies had to go. A part she saw as giving her life value. I can understand why she thinks she needs to apologize, but Danny is just being clueless.
…riiight.
Because nearly calling him a piece of shit and dumping him on the spot for talking to his friend totally doesn’t warrant an apology. No he needs to apologize for recognising that the amazi girl thing is dangerous and unhealthy. Totally.
Or you know, he knows Amber and he knows she’s not calling him out for not apologizing to her, but that’s not a thing she would do and not how she would do it.
“I mean… I guess if you want to apologize…” is not exactly him thinking she needs to apologize, but him thinking maybe she wants to?
Danny is not being clueless. Danny is reading Amber correctly.
Pretty much everyone in the universe agrees that communication is one of the most important thing in a relationship. Amber dumped him just for broaching the topic of easing off the vigilantism. You cant have a relationship if you cant have a conversation. An apology is definitely warranted.
He was dating Amazi-Girl, not Amber. It was Amazi-Girl who dumped him.
For telling her he liked Amber better and wanted Amazi-Girl to be let out less. At least that’s one way to look at it.
It’s possible Amazi-Girl owes him an apology, but it’s Amber who feels she does.
The distinction between Amber and Amazi-girl is helpful for Amber’s mental processing but ultimately they are one individual. One can’t truly wash their hands of the others actions unless Amber is suffering from a complete psychotic break.
Um, no. Danny did not ask for the apology. Danny did not even bring up the subject.
Danny said he wanted to be friends. Amber told him he should have waited to be friends until after she apologized.
And promising to not repeat a behavior is meaningless unless you can trust that person.
And you shouldn’t trust someone who isn’t your friend.
And The Cheese stands alone.
QED.
The Cheese will make that decision for himself, thank you very much!
The Cheese can go anywhere he wants to in space and time. I think that makes him a Tardis.
Unless someone moves him!
“Faz always trusts Faz, even though Faz knows Faz cannot be trusted.”
Faz has a chart which demonstrates how this works.
The Graph Has Spoken. It Shows Up-Ness.
OH, Amber. 🙁
God dammit.
I said “Kill it!”
The great Faz is immortal and cannot be killed.
If you kill him, he just respawns in a random location.
What is Faz’s powers work like Schrodinger from Hellsing?
More like Nermal. Crate him up and ship him to Abu Dhabi as many times as you want, he’ll just show up again like nothing happened.
Faz is the DOAverse’s version of The Winslow? Man, that’s a letdown.
“Hi!”
All hail the Winslow!
EWWW!!!
Faz is bi.
DAMn, meant to make a separate comment fml
We kinda knew that already. He had relations with dudes in Shortpacked! and sexuality doesn’t change between universes.
I kind of felt like he was gay in the original verse, but in denial. He specifically said that only Amber (ick) could change him from a 6 on the Kinsey scale to a 3. And what about his behaviour felt like actual sexual attraction, as opposed to (unconsciously) trying to act “right”?
…And I just made Faz tragic. Damn it.
Nah. While the presentation in question was specifically aimed at Amber his point was having sex with her would change his Kinsley scale. He never said only, just that she would if she did.
Remember he did end up finding a stable relationship in the end with a woman named Wren.
Plus, it was based on a misunderstanding of what the Kinsey scale was.
Wen, not Wren.
So now he can lewd ALL the genders.
You’re thinking of pansexuality. That’s not the same as bisexuality. Bisexuality is a sexual attraction to two genders/gender identities/gender expressions, often defined as “Male and female”. Pansexuality is sexual attraction regardless of gender/gender identity/gender expression.
Nope nope nope nope. Bisexuality is attraction to both people of the same gender as you and people of different genders than yours. It’s pretty much interchangeable with pansexuality except that people may prefer one or the other to describe themselves
No, Bi is “that’s a hot woman, that’s a hot man”. Pan is “that’s a hot person”. There’s quite a difference.
Bi is not limited to the gender binary? :/ You can be bi and be attracted to nb people, or even be a nb bi person
I’m not sure there’s broad consensus on this, but I think it is slightly more common to class bisexuality as signalling two attractive genders, but not limited to the *gender binary*. After all, “bi” means “two”, but it doesn’t say anything about “man and woman”.
My take- bisexuality is “I am attracted to that person and their gender/sex is part of it”, whereas pansexuality is “I am attracted to that person and their gender/sex is NOT part of it”.
For me as someone who has used both labels: Pan is what I use when I don’t feel like dealing with biphobes and prefer to deal with teacher mode. They are pretty much synonyms for me. Most bi folks I know take bi as “same and different genders.”
SO which 2 of the 60+ genders is it then?
Sasquachi and Heristite.
The ‘bi’ in bisexuality does not refer to two genders. It’s a common misconception, but it actually originates from the time when psychologists believed in ‘sexual inversion’, that is to say, that gay men had female brains, and lesbians male ones, etc. But then what do you do about these pesky bi people? Well, they’ve got two types of brain at once! The original term used was ‘psychosexual hermaphrodite’, but this was somewhat of a mouthful, so they used the botany term ‘bisexual’ instead.
Go to any major website for the bi community or read any piece of bi literature, and you’ll see that they rarely tie things down to two genders. One of the most popular definitions dating back to the 90s is Robyn Och’s declaration of “the potential to be attracted—romantically and/or sexually—to people of more than one sex and/or gender, not necessarily at the same time, not necessarily in the same way, and not necessarily to the same degree.”
(Also, NB bi person here attracted to all genders, hi.)
This.
I get really sick of people trying to use the “bi” in the word as evidence that those who prefer that term are stuck on a two gender dynamic.
To add to the above, bisexual also refers to three different spots location on the Kinsey scale (2, 3, and 4). Pan, Omni, and other similar terms are more detailed orientation descriptors but either have no place on the Kinsey scale or can only exist as solid 3s, depending on how strict your definition of what the Kinsey scale measures is (I’ve heard pan-identifying people go both ways – ha pun – on this – either that pan cannot be measured on Kinsey or that Pan is always 3).
Why is this important? Well, I identify as bisexual because I am a 4 on it – I am a person who is attracted to anyone regardless of gender BUT has a minor preference for those who present as female (my gender).
I cannot be pan or omni because those have no preferences for a specific gender. By liking everyone, but liking women slightly more than everyone else, the only term that applies to me is bi.
This is why broadly claiming that bi individuals “cannot” be attracted to all genders is both BS and terribly harmful.
Also – arg! I can’t believe that FAZ of all people is why I’m having this conversation.
**makes disgusted gagging noises**
Thanks for the awesome explanation, FinalOwen, you taught me something great today
As a bi person in a relationship with a non-binary person, I take exception to that. Bisexuality has been defined as “same and other genders”, and has explicitly included non-binary identities since at least 1990. (Look up Bisexual Manifesto.) I identify as bisexual rather than pansexual because my attraction to people of my gender (female) is distinct from my attraction to people of other genders (male, non-binary, etc), but, like most bisexual people, I don’t consider my sexuality to be limited to binary orientations.
As FinalOwen said, that’s a myth that originated from cishet outsiders labeling members of the LGBTQA community without their consent. Ultimately, the sources you should use when defining a sexuality are people who identify with that sexuality, full stop.
Wait, you take exception to me agreeing with FinalOwen (who you also say you agree with) and adding an additional argument to support his point? Or were you talking to someone else up the thread?
Because I also agree with everything you said. You and I appear to be very similar in our views, so I would hate to think that I had somehow made it sound like I was arguing against the point of view I support.
Based on the indents, it looks like Portland disagrees with AutobotDen, not you. Fwiw as a nonbinary person who IDs as bisexual I super agree with you and Portland and appreciate you both speaking about it <3 your explanation was super helpful for me, too, in figuring out why I never much identified with the pan label. I also have a preference for fem presenting people so it doesn't seem right to say I am pan but that doesn't stop me from sometimes being attracted to masc or nonbinary presenting people so. Bi works best for me
Oh and FinalOwen thank you as well. And speaking as a fellow bi enby, you rock 😀
This could perhaps be the only time being asexual makes my life easier. I’m not attracted to ANY of ya’ll. 😀
I’m very similar. (Though I like nb people as much as femme folk…It’s just the dudes are restricted to purely sexual attraction, not romantic.)
That’s pretty much it. The Great Faz doesn’t fall into normal conceptions of sexuality. Much like Mike’s orientation is “whatever you don’t want it to be”.
Faz’s sexual orientation is creepy.
Who else but Quagmire! — uh, I mean FAZ!
(I keep expecting him to end a sentence with a “Giggity”!)
“Peter, this kid is too creepy and too much of a horndog even by my standards!”
Okay but Quagmire is actually a serial rapist.
Which makes him calling out Brian for using woman for their bodies really strange. It would be like if Ryan decided to lecture Joe about feminism.
That entire episode was ridiculous.
But he does say that he’s honest about it, so at least he’s aware of his hipocracy
Yeah, I can’t believe I watched that show for as long as I did without realizing how shitty Quagmire’s behavior was.
Then again, high school was a weird time.
“Faz is now being held hostage. Sexually, this is all Faz could ever hope for.”
“The mighty Faz is starting to show his might…”
“OH GOD! I guess I’m straight again…” XD
Umm?
I’m assuming that Faz just turned Danny straight.
UMM???
As in, this was dialogue between Faz and Danny.
Faz: “The mighty Faz is starting to show his might…”
Danny: “OH GOD! I guess I’m straight again…”
UMMMM???
faz is twelv
Faz is 15. But the fact that he’s distinctly underage is a significant component of why his being aggressively sexual at literally everyone he’s actually interacted with grosses people out. (Another significant part is the fact that he is aggressively sexual at literally everyone he interacts with.)
No, I got it. I was just having trouble articulating my thoughts on the concept of “turning Danny straight”. They’re largely negative.
There’s a difference between someone saying “welp, this person hit on me, guess I’m never into their gender again lol” and literally saying a not-straight person is straight. I took the comment to be a tongue in cheek look at Danny’s PoV it hit on by Faz.
Yeah, what Jason said. Same kinda deal as getting a massive hangover, swearing off alcohol forever, then having a “Morning Margarita”. That’s a thing Humans do, right?
@Screwball
Morning Margaritas are a thing, but I personally prefer the venerable ‘Shower Beer’, usually one of the last beers left in the bottom of the cooler/refridgerator from the night before, drank in it’s entirety in the span of a five-minute shower the next morning. Very good for staving off hangovers.
Also, I drew the best gravitar for explaining the subject of breakfast booze so academically.
“Faz Cannot Apologize For This Erection”
another great book title
Too late, Danny.
You let yourself get roped into helping.
Now you’re boned.
That remains to be seen.
He let himself continue to care about his friend and be willing to help her out. She doesn’t believe she deserves it, but she knows she can depend on him, because he’s a very good egg
Watch your words with Faz around.
Every time I think Faz can’t be more creepy he manages to do so.
…yep, definitely like this Faz less than Shortpacked!Faz. Ick.
I’m not sure which Faz is worse. Faz is just creepy across all universes.
Why? This Faz limits himself to saying inappropriate things, Shortpacked!Faz actually tried to touch people, delighted in making people uncomfortable and committed actual felonies on the regular. The only way you could think that Shortpacked!Faz was the better person was if you took into account the fact that Shortpacked! is a comedy and as such creepy behavior is more tolerated then it is in a realistic work.
Shiro didn’t say that SP!Faz was a better person, just that they liked him better in SP!.
I agree, honestly. Mostly because THIS Faz is apparently a high schooler, and this behavior from a high schooler is somehow creepier to me. I don’t think I could explain why, though.
Him being a high schooler does add the possibility that it’s just extreme immature behavior that he’ll grow out of. In some ways I can see it making him creepier, but I can also see for some it makes it not as bad.
Faz has only limited himself to saying inappropriate things so far, and even so that doesn’t make it ok. Furthermore he’s made it more than apparent that he’s more than willing to go beyond that if he wouldn’t get arrested for it.
One could argue that Amber has limited Faz to saying inappropriate things so far – like by dragging him away from the girl’s showers.
Like a lot of things that made the translation from SP to DoA, this Faz is less over-the-top cartoony and more realistically unpleasant. Hence he inspires a more visceral DO NOT WANT reaction in me. There’s also probably something to be said for time dulling reactions vs ones that are currently occurring.
I don’t believe I said anything about being a better person.
Yeah, I was also going to point out the difference in story telling style. Over the top “wacky hijinks” were the norm in SP!, here they are not. People were similarly extremely uncomfortable with Robin’s behaviour with Leslie for the same reason. It wasn’t- and isn’t- over the top absurdity without grounding in something looking like reality any more.
Drama tag pulled from the starting gun.
I think you just explained why me and my friend seem to be the only ones who don’t hate characters like robin and mike. We still don’t see them as something to be taken seriously because we still see it as a goofy webcomic, just with serious themes. We all thought you lot were crazy for taking them so Seriously.
panel 6 amber voices the reason I’m still not talking to a friend. <.<
This is DoA, I’m sure there will be character development.
Slow, slow character development.
…Shame that until then, I’m gonna need a goddamn shower every time he’s on screen.
Can the Faz ever make conversation that revolves around himself being the main subject ? 3
“Faz is the main subject of all conversations, even if the people don’t know it.”
Despite all of this drama, I still really want Danny and Amber to get back together. Not as Amazi-Girl, though.
Danny might make a cute AmaziGirl.
Damn you, now I can’t unsee it. Danny in the Amazi-Girl outfit, trying his best to stop crimes the way Amber did.
And nobody noticing that AG is a different person now, because rule-of-funny.
And then the “real” AG finding and fighting her “evil twin”…
On one hand, I would love that. On the other, Danny and Sal seemed like a fun proposition. Then there’s Danny/Ethan, which I personally haven’t found that intriguing, but I know some people root for being a thing.
Lot of interesting possibilities.
Why not polyam!Danny? Ship him with all the ships, and so forth and such.
…
Because literally none of his possible partners are secure enough to handle a polyam relationship, lbr.
Nor has Danny shown any signs of interest or even awareness that such a thing would be possible.
This is college. You learn by doing!
–Dave, and by subscirbing to other people’s interesting newsletters
ps: now imagining the worst Three’s Company homage episode evar
I’m hoping for a really strange Sal-Danny-Amber triangle forming with so many ambiguous emotions that no-one really knows what to do with it.
You continue to underestimate Mike.
You have to understand your enemies in order to defeat them. That is why Mike understands everything.
I feel like a proper Amber-Danny relationship would allow him to help her with her mental problems (or at least get her to someone) and ALSO be the Oracle to her Batman.
Also Faz feels like a less Charming disturbing version of Fez from that’s 70s…. matter of fact I know he is it’s kind of obvious.
Jesus. I think this Faz is actually worse than his Shortpacked counterpart.
Yeah, here he’s still in training wheels. Boners, bondage, and girls’ showers…oh my! He’s only -just- discovering what *shudder* tickles his fancy. ew…ick His creep factor intensifies, exponentially.
And that of course is the counterpoint to “He’s just a kid, he’ll grow out of it”.
He might grow into it.
eeuagh
You can see that the guy in the back is mortified just by looking at him in the last panel.
Iam sure that guy in the back and the one near the front have not moved since danny and Amber & Faz came in, perhaps this interaction is happening in a short moment of time.
Amber is making progress, at least. Minuscule progress at best. But progress.
By the way what is he turned on about ? Unless he’s always turned on- wait he’s a 15 year old of course he is.
Faz is pretty much just me as a 15 year old, but with no filter whatsoever.
Pretty sure that’s most Boys at age 15 if they had no filter.
I don’t think that it is possible to promise not to repeat a behavior. The best that you can do is promise to try your best not to repeat it. I think that we are all doomed to do things that we would rather not have done, and then, lather, rinse, repeat. Keep trying, though, damn it, keep trying. Someday we may beat our demons and come out better.
plus there’s all kinds of minor things that you *know* you’ll eventually do again, but apologise for anyways. like bumping into someone, or being late. heck, even if you’re late on a regular basis, the apology is still worth something: you’re acknowledging that it happened and implying that you do at least *want* to improve.
Exactly. Plus, it’s also in the way you apologise. Different situations call for different kinds of apologies.
Now if one apologises for having hurt someone pretty deeply (emotional wise, and non-abusive, like e.g. a trust issue in a relationship or sthg like that), and wants to express how much they are sorry for it, they still cannot exactly promise to never hurt another person (or the party involved) again in the same or a similar circumstances. One can definitely try, and as you said, that’s what matters most.
Though depending on the situation, it probably also matters just how MUCH one can see that the other person tries. (I mean, you all probably know all this, I’m just really spouting my thoughts here, a bit like thinking loudly).
Like this example going through my head (not exactly fitting, but also not unfitting): There’s a difference between e.g. an alcoholic promising to never drink again and then just some weeks later get drunk at an after work-party without any possible reason besides “The others invited me to”, and an alcoholic who’s sober for quite some time and then just relapses one evening after a series of failures because of work stress, family stress (or other extremes) and whatever and everything became too much for them. The first didn’t exactly try to keep their promise (especially if the same thing happens again), the second did try, but then couldn’t handle it. There’s probably a significant difference between a “sorry” between those too. (Also for the sake of the thought experiment, let’s just say both are non-abusive when drunk but drinking is just very bad for their health because they have liver problems and they promised their families to take care of themselves).
To be honest though, I think this is probably because Amber saw the abuser’s apology too often. Apologising but nothing changes. And what does she fear more than becoming her father…?
So she won’t apologise unless she can GUARANTEE change, which is going to the other extreme. And going to extremes is common when subconsciously trying to rebel against- or placate- parental figures.
Jason, that, exactly. An apology needs to come with a promise to at least TRY to change (because sometimes change is hard), and the person apologizing needs to be transparent in the future for HOW they are working to change.
But all of that is a lot more nuance than people who’ve dealt with ongoing, systemic abuse are capable of, many times. They’ve seen too many false apologies.
Dammit, Amber, and also, oh jeez, Amber. ;_;
As a punchline in a webcomic, that’s hilarious.
As an actual statement…ewwwww
Ah, jeez. This hits a little close to ome. Amber has a point in Panel 5, but I can’t help thinking she’s stopping too early. Apologies are great, until they do it again. That’s what I fucking wish my mom would learn (she’s back at her abusive boyfriend’s place, despite promising not to).
But she doesn’t stop. She continues in Panel 6.
Now obviously you have to also trust them to keep that promise.
Faz, that’s not true. Castration should clear that problem right up.
Obviously, Amber is looking for reasons to push him away, but the person delivering an apology doesn’t get to decide whether or not it’s meaningful.
Though usually the issue is someone unhappy that their apology was rejected, not trying to avoid one because they know it’d be accepted
Remember: Amber believes that she is worthless and dangerous. However, I don’t think anyone else (who matters) agrees with her.
Exactly. That’s why Danny is totally okay with her not apologizing at all.
He’s probably wise to roll with it though, while pointing out he doesn’t feel that its necessary. My first instinct would’ve been to either argue explicitly that no apology was needed, or that she should let me decide for myself whether I want to accept it, and that would probably just lead to her pushing back harder and shutting me out again. Danny’s much gentler reaction is the way to go.
faz is gonna wear thin. eventually. but for now, i laugh
Trust me, you don’t want Faz laid on thick.
The Willis form of writing.
1. Introduce character with wacky quirk, half of fandom hates them, half of fandom loves them. (With variations based on how much the character is meant to be liked)
2. Reveal shocking plot twist that explains all of the characters behavior and makes them super sad.
3. Fandom now loves them.
Wait, do half of the commenters enjoy Faz?
God I hope not
According to this graph, half of the audience enjoy Faz’ penis.
(Observation: Me constantly blabbing about Faz’ penis in any comic he shows up in is STILL less obnoxious than Faz himself.)
Corrolary: These auxiliary graphs relating enjoyment percentages to degrees of arousal, using outline drawings, demonstrate that Faz requires more data points.
–Dave, volunteers would be accepted, were they to exist
*Corollary
–Dave, gah
I know I do
Faz assumes that half of your commenters are female. If half the commenters enjoy Faz, this means all female commenters enjoy Faz, and therefore want to have sex with him. This logic is clearly flawless.
I got all excited That Norville was a new Alt
Damn.
Wait, Willis why does shaggy from scoobyDoo get a name ( norville ) but the African American geek in the foreground is nameless?
( I googled good names for him… )
I dub thee “Edison ‘Acer’ Youngblood” . ( to my lily white ears ) its sounds cool, Black, and techie.
Dammit, thats so good I wish I was Edison “Acer” Youngblood.
No charge for the naming service Willis
Pretty sure the former is a Walkyverse character…
No, he’s just a recurring spacefiller, who eventually got some dialogue and a name.
Yeah. One line in 7 years.
His early pictures look like an Willis’s shakier cadence for an audience stand-in.
Is Norville a real person?
No, you identified his reference in your first post. Norville Rogers is Shaggy’s birth name.
dammit cant edit
( links sent to moderation purgatory
Now I just learned about African American Lewis Howard Latimer
( google him )
and his hidden contributions to lightning
‘Latimer “Acer” Youngblood’
I already created a backstory/post-Dumbing of Age bio for him in yesterday’s strip, dubbing him “Eventually Brooke”…
I challenge you to an Agni Kai to settle this affair!
Zoikies, an Agni Kai?
Cant we just settle this seeing who can east the biggest sandwich after a some Scooby Snacks.
Sure, he can be Eventually Brooke ..after he Eventually meets his husband at a renewabales conference in next decade after Graduation, in Tucson.
Right now hes “Acer” Latimer Youngblood.
but If you want to write of his eventual romance ( slash ) and marriage with Climate Scientist “Mick” Spencer Brooke II, ill read it. …Eventually.
Pinky-swear
When you play Agni Kai, someone always gets …burned.
Why? You answered your own question.
Because he’s Shaggy from Scooby Doo.
LOL,
Yo , i was just joshing, invoking a stereotype to highlight the injustice done to Acer in front.
wheres Scoobs?
Dammit, Amber.
Faz needs a swift kick in the nuts, followed by being tossed down several flights of stairs, then another kick to the nuts.
Faz would enjoy that. He sexualizes any human attention.
Pretty sure ballbusting is in his list of kinks at this point.
Sorry if that was discussed on yesterday’s comic or the one before that, but I think it is very indicative of Amber’s character that she hasn’t even thought of letting someone else deal with this unwanted intruder.
I mean, she tried with Ruth, but one might argue it would have been Ruth’ obligation to help remove him from campus, in her capacity of RA, and Amber could have called upon this obligation.
Whether Ruth would have agreed, is another matter entirely, but my point is Amber implicitly or explicitly thinks she has to take it all on alone.
You know what? I’m really glad I was too much of a coward* in my teens to try and flirt or ask someone out; because I’m pretty sure I’d have said something extremely stupid and inappropriate* anyway.
**That is, more stupid and inappropriate than the things I already said as a teen.
Same. Spending my most stupid years more wrapped up in proving my self worth through silly hobbies rather than in romantic prowess saved me A LOT of stupid and inappropriate memories.
Fair point, but Faz is that stupid and inappropriate taken to ridiculous extremes. Most of us say stupid and inappropriate things, but we feel embarrassed or ashamed of them and react somehow – stammering and apologizing, passing it off as a joke, something.
Faz calmly states them as facts.
Most teenage boys get inappropriate erections – they’ve got little control over it, but they try to hide it, wait for it to go away. Faz announces it to the world.
This isn’t normal.
Oh but you should you little shit.
Ugh, I can’t fathom the idea of a Fazdemption after all his teenage lewdness.
Once again, I’m left with the impression that I want people in this comic to give Amber a lot of hugs. (Except Faz, because… well, Faz. XD) In some ways, she really reminds me of my younger self in the darker periods for my mental health, and that… REALLY makes me want to hug her. Actually, can I teleport into this comic for the sole purpose of giving a lot of these kids a hug? (Only if they’re cool with those, of course.)
You and me both. I want to give a lot of the cast consensual hugs and reassurances that life doesn’t totally suck.
Yes. All the hugs
I just threw up a little
in my mouth
So maybe I’m dense. Is Amber saying Danny shouldn’t be friends with her until she apologizes/promises not to repeat…. what behavior? Being Amazi-Girl?
Or is she saying no we can’t until you apologize for trying to control me and he’s being insistent that he didn’t do anything wrong?
The first one.
For being a jerk to him largely because of the Amazi-girl divide. For yelling at him, for freaking out about him talking to Sal.
And of course because Amber sees herself as a monster, she makes everything she’s done much worse in her head and doesn’t trust herself not to repeat it.
Unlike apologies, erections are always sincere.
Nope. Erections are physiological reactions. And btw that kind of mindset is exactly why there is systemic discrimination against male victims of sexual abuse.
Worst case scenario: Danny and Faz start dating
Worster case scenario: Faz becomes the filling in a Danny/Amber sandwhich.
Worstest case: Blackmail from Mary … forcing them to let her and Peter (Paul?) join in and/or make YouTube videos.
–Dave, and then Blaine finds out
DAMMIT, FAZ, STOP FEEDING MY PARANOIA THAT YOU WILL TURN OUT TO PARALLELL BECKY’S JOURNEY AND BE ON THE RUN FROM A HORRIBLE FATHER!!!!
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/blabbermouth/
BECKY IS AWESOME AND YOU ARE SOME KIND OF LARVAE STAGE SEXUAL HARASSER CREEP, I DON’T WANT YOU TO PARALLELL BECKY’S JOURNEY NO MATTER HOW GOOD A STORY IT WOULD BE!!!
Welp, that was nightmare fuel I didn’t need.
I thought he was just being a prick. But really. WAY too likely.
Oh lord.
Faz has so far:
– Shown up from the blue
– Had a tour through the wing, met some of the cast
– Tagged along to class and said something inappropriate.
While
– Completely dodging any discussion about why he is here
– Having an evil, horrible father (who incidentally, the only people he know can stand up against is his cool sis)
There are VERY heavy parallells to both Becky and Howard, so I’m really scared about where this is going.
Also – Faz ran into both Becky and Ruth early in his story arc to serve as visual reminders of their respective stories. I think Amber will have the big sis to Faz that Ruth is to Howard before this arc is over.
I wonder what Amber’s reaction would be to someone actually trying to hurt Faz? She seems to care about him at least a little, but would she go full mama bear and but the shit out of anyone who actually threatened him?
Depends on why. Sarah clobbering him when she found him in the girl’s showers? Doubt it.
Blaine beating on him? Well yeah, but she’ll take any excuse to beat up Blaine. And then torture herself for it later.
How is such a tiny dose of him SUCH an over load?
… That’s the same issue people have with me.
Frick.
AND FAZ IS MAKING ME LIKE, UNABLE TO COMMENT ON THE SERIOUS EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENTS HERE DANG IT
Actually, Amber, that serves as both an apology and an explanation in my book: You’re sorry but you are also aware that your mental health issues make it impossible for you to promise that you won’t have any further episodes. This is just me but I suspect that’s enough for Danny.
There’s something weird about Faz’s behaviour. I’m wondering if someone slipped him an amphetamine or something similar without his knowledge and his flying high on it it?
No… that’s just Faz… unfortunately
Faz, you’re a creepy loser. 😛
Faz is basically what Calvin could be in ten years.
But with more hormones.
I feel like you can’t project how a 6-year-old who’s written to act like his 30-ish-year-old author would act if he was 10 years older.
That’s a lot of story and character development missing, especially since he always is in first grade, in the entire tenure of the comic.
I have to point out that as a kid I was similar to Calvin in how I played, so I may be biased against Faz here.
faz hide your shame
That requires sufficient self-awareness to feel shame and there is no evidence that Faz has anything like that!
i am a fool
Boner pride!
–Dave, #letyerfreakflagfly
Thus is the code of the Amber.
You have to decide wherever the apology or the person is worth more to you. There are things that are unforgivable and then there are things that you can forgive and at those are the ones where you want them to apologize because of your ego or just want them to apologize to have them back.
Sometimes you just need to let go.
True, but that doesn’t really apply here. The problem is that Amber is about 120 pounds (…total guesstimate) of self-loathing and depression. Danny clearly has no hard feelings about anything that’s happened, so no apologies are, strictly speaking, needed. It’s Amber that’s insisting that she needs to apologize, and that she can’t rightfully apologize.
Nah, Amber’s about 300lbs of self-loathing and depression in a 120lb girl.
And it’s Danny assuming she’s the one who needs to apologize without a single thought questioning it.
“Now, the two of you lean over Faz and kiss while I self-stimulate.”
I love you so much, my darling sister Amber. How I wish that you didn’t have to be so strong.
What does Amber need to apologize for again? Mixed signals regarding Sal?
Jealousy-induced breakup and confusing split personality issues, I think. http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/02-everything-youve-ever-wanted/pokestop/
Well, it wasn’t really jealousy-induced. (I’m still half-asleep, please forgive the error.) More like “SHE IS MY MORTAL ENEMY, HOW DARE YOU TALK TO HER.”
So basically I guess all of her trauma-related issues that messed up their relationship, more or less.
I really hope she starts talking to a professional soon.
The split personality issues played a huge role there. Without being quite aware of it, Danny told Amazi-Girl that he liked Amber better and wanted Amazi-Girl to go away.
Little wonder Amazi-Girl broke up with him.
And, given the relationship between those two, little wonder Amber’s taking the blame for it.
This would be an excellent time for Faz to spend the remainder of the chapter with a ukulele buried in his skull.
i think there is a good reason faz is in this arc and its more than just to annoy amber and creepy everyone else out though i think it will be a while before its revealed..
DAMN IT AM I SHIPPING THESE TWO AGAIN??? WHY DON’T I LEARN?????
AND AFTER HE WAS BEING SO ADORABLE WITH SAL!!!!
AND EFF!!!
Danny/Everyone is apparently my OTP.
*Eef (Ethan), not eff. Even though I could have meant “Danny just needs to eff everyone already.”
God they are so good <3 what wonderful children
the hell is wrong with this kid
Just let Faz go. Let him be free and then arrested
“Faz is excited by the handcuffs.”
So then everyone’s happy.
Still really worried as to why Faz is here. Something awful is going on.
It occurs to me that all their lives would be better if they just dice rolled everything.
Yep, still can’t stop imagining Faz’s voice as a Khajiit from Elder Scrolls.
Hmm. Off topic from the Faz story, but… do the Questionable Content cast exist in DoA? Or any of the other comics that the Walkyverse has crossed over with?
And are they ALSO variously aged up or down, in one of the halls we don’t see? Like… the Briscoe Quadrangle, chosen at random? But still at the ends of their character arcs from QC? While also avoiding QC’s romantic turf (so like, probably this is the universe where Marten and Faye are dating, but Faye’s already butch and hardcore and recovering from alcoholism, and Marten’s… moved on to different kinds of obscure music?)
Who is more potentially joke-offended by this prospect: Jacques or Willis?
Faye exists in the DoAverse
Anyway Faz is great. Like obviously he’s awful and makes the characters and the readers uncomfortable, but that means he is performing precisely as intended by the author, and achieving a very effective emotional reaction that makes the story stronger overall. So like… in that sense, Faz is great.
His greatness can be seen on this graph. The arrow represents upness.
“anyway, this cake is great – it’s so delicious and moist!”
–Dave, the orange represents in-ness … and the blue, out-ness
Goshdangit, Faz.
Seems like things would be simpler if they just introduced Mike and Faz. Faz would annoy Mike and Mike would make Faz disappear.
Or Mike would weaponize Faz against Amber.
Mike does not make things simpler.
The last panel caused me to emit the grossest of snort-laughs.
Fitting, as Faz is the grossest of boys
Amber DOESNT know,
that Faz is her half sibling,
just like in Shortpacked,
Amber didnt know
Jesus Christ boy…
I… HOW IS FAZ EVEN CREEPIER?! THIS SHOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE!