Well i am going to start today! I am also anti litter! Also yesterday i littered for the first time in ten years because a goshdarned bus driver wouldnt let me bring my empty cider bottle and there were no receptacles and my girlfriend had already got on this night bus and they come every 30 min and its an hour to london bridge sooo…
I did a bad thing 🙁
I agree! Here in England, we donut spell that fried good as “donut”. 😛
If she simply doesn’t want to litter, then why not turn the sign around, fold it in half so no-one can read it, or scribble “do not” across the top? xD
No, you’re the people who call cookies «biscuits», french fries «chips», actual potato chips «crisps», and give a type of pudding a name that sounds more like a venereal disease (“spotted dick”, for those of you who didn’t make the connection). So of course you don’t spell it as «donuts» OR «doughnuts»; you skirt the issue completely and call ’em «crullers».
Also, is it possible on the boat ride over someone tossed some u’s from their Scrabble game, and just decided to cut them out of a bunch of words to be able to keep playing?
“No, ‘Colour’ is not spelled with a ‘U’ in it.”
“But you just pronounced it with one.”
“No I didn’t. ‘Color’, see?
American English is ’cause they hated Britain so much they didn’t quite want to make up a whole new language but threw out some letters here and there to not be the same
also idk what this MM/DD/YYYY format is but that happened too
Actually, most of the differences in spelling between British English and American English turn out to be that American English retained the original spellings, while British English tried to fancy itself up by using faux-French spellings for everything. 😛 (I’ve confirmed this with both my own English teachers at school here in the UK, and with friends from America; they both say the same thing).
We have biscuits, and cookies; they’re not the same thing to us. Look up Maryland Cookies some time. (Hint: they’re actually not from Maryland, they’re a UK brand). Meanwhile Digestives, for example, are biscuits.
We also have chips (fries to those in the US), and French Fries (the ridiculously stick-thin ones that McDonalds serve), and Crisps comes in packets and are produced by Walkers (potato chips to Americans).
And no, we don’t use the word donut, we use doughnut. Nobody would ever call a doughnut a cruller, that’s something else entirely! 😛
As to the matter of the Spotted Dick…it’s actually named after King Richard the Lionheart. And the “spots” of course are the raisins. 🙂
Ana Chronistic – I completely agree about the weirdness of the MM/DD/YYYY date format. But tbh, the best format for use on computers these days is YYYY/MM/DD anyway… xD (which I believe is the French system?)
“The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and riffle their pockets for new vocabulary.”
Vowel pairings give off different sounds, i believe german has something similar where the dominant sound is the last vowel, except except in english it might be the first? Like in qUeue or lEague
The German diphthongs are:
AU, pronounced as the “ou” in “house”;
EI, pronounced as the word “I”;
AI, rare, pronounced identically to EI;
IE, pronounced as the “ee” in “see”;
EU, pronounced as the “oy” in “boy”, and
A:U, pronounced identically to EU (the colon is an umlaut on the preceding A).
Also, in a pinch, A:, O: and U: can be written AE, OE and UE, as the umlaut as a diacritic is derived from the letter E in these contexts. I’m not sure why IE didn’t devolve, but it probably has to do with the absence of any appreciable sound change (Remember: German, as with almost every other language on the Continent, did not go through a Great Vowel Shift, all I’s are pronounced “ee”. The reason for the mnemonic as you remember it (correctly, so kudos) is because of the Great Vowel Shift and that pronouncing “shiessen” (to shoot) with an EI is embarrassing.)
What the US calls biscuits overlaps with what the UK calls scones – used to be one of the wikipedia articles for one of them had a photo with the other in the filename.
Brit here coming to clarify these differences! Cookies and biscuits are different things, cookies are cookies, biscuits are for dunking in tea #sobritish
Chips are proper potato chunky chips (not crisps!) whereas fries are those skinny mcdonald kind of chips. We do say both! Chips more often than not though.
What on earth are crullers? We call them doughnuts. Doughy goodness~
Spotted dick is a hilariously named dessert, but it is pretty old school. You don’t have many people eating that anymore, not really.
Fellow Brit here! 🙂 Crullers are I believe a weird, twisty variant of a doughnut. Like maybe the doughnut got off with a pretzel or something. 😛 lol sorry couldn’t resist that.
Spotted dick comes from King Richard. But yeah, that’s an old school dessert, hasn’t really been wildly popular since the war. 🙂
These may be the things I’ve heard called real doughnuts from the good old days. Their twisted nature means they will automatically turn themselves over while cooking in hot fat. Unlike these modern namby-pamby toroidal things which require a baker’s assistant to babysit them and turn them manually at the correct moment.
Well, if I’m going to eat a doughnut, it’s going to be a cruller, because they are light and fluffy and yummy.
Other than that, the existential angst of this character who I don’t remember is not terribly engaging.
Also, doughnut shop guy has just, like, the absolute worst approach. You’re supposed to say “I just have this sign because the some girl handed it to me and I was bored. But the doughnut shop closes in 10 minutes, so how about you and I go get a doughnut and some coffee?”
Because there’s nothing like a doughnut and a cup of coffee with a new and attractive friend when you’re already up at 1AM in the morning, which I assume it’s about 10 minutes til since the rally was a midnight rally and not many shops close at 12:15.
Here in Aus we will tend to the Brit spelling, but are often lazy. However I did some work in a boutique bakery and as a result to me a DOUGHNUT uses DOUGH, ie it is made with yeast and given time to rise. If it was made with from one of those ring shaped doungnut dispensers, it was made with CAKE BATTER, and I will insult it as a CAKENUT or a DOnut
A cake nut is lovely, but doughtnuts are ten times better than cake nuts
(also, you Americans got Aluminum wrong. Its Aluminium. Blame Webster for that. 😛 )
I always thought that “Donut” was a trademark spelling of Dunkin Donuts, and other major donut companies (e.g. Krispy Kreme) were required to use the full “Doughnut” spelling.
One of the most formidable of the chips of the line. But they should never be deployed without a screen of crullers to protect them from sub sandwiches.
Scene from the recent Cohen Brothers’ The Three Stooges movie:
(Curly, Moe and Larry are hiding in a church belfry. Curly has stolen something.)
Moe: Why, you imbecile! Now the cops are after us!
Curly: Wait, Moe! I’ve got donuts, see?
*Moe grabs donuts, stuffs them in Curly’s ears*
Curly: NYA-A-AH! Look what you’ve done! Now I’ve got donuts in my ears!
Larry: Well, it’s a good thing we have a donut remover!
*Curly and Moe stare at him*
Moe: How’s that?
*Larry pulls one of the pins that holds the bell in place out, shows them an attached tag*
Larry: See? It says right here: Dough (DO) Nut (NOT) Remov-uh (REMOVE)!
Moe: Oh, nice work!
Curly: Yeah, good thing one of us can read!
Leslie chose that spot to sit specifically for the strategic spotlight. Probably spent a couple minutes finding just the right position…
…aaand then gets stuck holding a sign that blocks both the light and view of her lady pillows. The whole plan is falling apart and Robin’s not even here yet!
Yeah, and it’s honestly making me like her less. It’s not too bad now, as it’s conceivable that she just wanted to look at her and talk to her. But she’s getting closer and closer to giving up her principles over a hot woman.
And she’s not some kid growing up who doesn’t know better.
I really hope this arc doesn’t ruin Leslie for me.
Maybe all those people who got suckered into Trump’s campaign don’t actually agree with him at all. Maybe they’re just entranced by that luxurious mane of I can’t finish this thought I may actually vomit.
Actually, you’re more right than you know. Not so much about the hairy brain parasite on his head. A considerable portion of the Republican party lined up behind him not because they like what he said, but because they think this is the way to win.
No, the Repugnicans kept saying “Anyone but Hillary” — and by making Trump their nominee they proved that they weren’t kidding when they said “anybody”.
I think you’re both in agreement that the Repub’s nomination of Trump was a blatantly callous political move that has served to alienate mainstream conservatives and will probably spell the doom of the Republican party as we know it. You both need to stop arguing over semantics and agree that you agree.
Though I fear the idea of mainstream conservatives is also going to be a victim of Trump’s run. The entire idea of conservatism is being pulled to the radical end of the spectrum.
I’m thinking of abandoning my conservative label in favor of “Radical Centrist”.
The opposite also applies. I am an Independent. I have voted for both republicans and democrats*. I am no fan of Hillary, but for me it is a matter of “Anyone but Trump.” I would vote for a toaster over Donald Trump. A toaster can make lovely toast, cheaply and efficiently. Donald would bankrupt my household in the process of trying to make toast…
* Although I must admit that I am disgusted by the current state of the Republican party and have voted a straight Dem ticket since the Republicans staged their little walkout of the bipartisan financial committee back in the stone age. You were elected to do a job! If I told the person paying me that I refused to attend meetings that I was appointed to attend, I’d be fired. So I fired them all, as far as my vote goes.
The Republican Party, since the realignment that accompanied Nixon’s Southern Strategy, has been courting white nationalists and theocrats with sly winks and dog whistles, and has ramped their efforts up hard since 2001.
“After a night of crushing disapointments Leslie says Screw it all and goes to the donut shop only to find ROBIN, alone and on a sugar kick!
‘Are you going to eat all of those yourself,’ Robin says between gulps, staring mostly at the bag of donuts Leslie clutches to her chest, but also at the bags of Leslie* behind said bag
‘Maybe, maybe not. Why don’t you follow me hope and find out,’ Leslie says with bravado she didn’t know she had.
I’m pretty sure a “Bavarian cream” is already a sex act.
**checks Google**
Yup. Although it wasn’t what I was expecting. Kinda has nothing to do with a bavarian cream really. Hm.
Fun fact for the hovertext: tosser is British English slang for someone overly fond of masturbation, or just a general pejorative term. I’m sure Willis knew that, but I imagine some readers wouldn’t.
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Harry is referred to as a tosser. By himself. And he still got the date. Then Dumbledore cockblocked him. And I need to stop before I explain the whole plot…
I’m sure there is… HOWEVER, I really do prefer it that outside of specific forums dedicated to TV shows, people’s attitudes to spoilers is simply: Don’t.
Really. All the nitpicking and arguing back and forth about what exact statute should be… When in reality, there is always a whole bunch of people that for a whole bunch of reasons has not gotten around to this or that specific book/video game/movie/TV show/etc. It’s much, much easier —and more polite— to simply assume no statutes.
I mean, it’s not like we don’t have options to discuss such things in places where spoilers are expected, such as dedicated internet forums, or private Facebook groups, etc. It is in fact soooo easy to discuss your favourite choices of entertainment with others without spoiling it for those that haven’t been around to it yet.
And book readers seem to be better about this than most people. Just look at TheGrammarLegionary. Or another example, Game of Thrones the TV series. The ASoIaF book readers knew what was coming, but they did not go around spoiling things.
In fact, we (I was one of them) loved how, a decade after, suddenly a whole bunch of new audiences were getting a taste of what turned a whole genre on its head. If we had been “Oh, statute of limitations”, then there would be a buttload of scenes that would not have created the same impact as it did. We kept quiet because we wanted the viewers to also get punched in the gut like we were.
And then the show watchers insisted on spoiling it by talking about it the next day without any warnings. Or news sites talking about it put up spoilers in the very headline. Go figure.
In fairness to non-book-readers, the biggest spoiler I ever got was from someone who still hasn’t seen the movie seven years later (same movie I referenced above, in fact). And there’s actually nothing in my post to suggest I’ve ever read the book myself; that scene was only depicted in the film (the book used an awkward conversation with the Dursleys to achieve the same basic plot point).
That said, thanks for acknowledging those of us who take care to avoid giving away spoilers. It’s nice to know the effort isn’t wasted.
If the donut place closes in ten minutes the donuts aren’t likely to be very good, or very plentiful. And wouldn’t the donut shop near a college be open 24 hours a day, for all the kids coming out of clubs at 2 AM?
There were like 6 pizza places near my campus, but only 1 that was open past midnight, which is exactly the time when pizza becomes an impulse buy.
Wasn’t very good pizza either, but a large single topping was just $5, and after midnight any pizza is the best pizza ever, especially pizza a college kid can afford.
Bloomingtonian here. Square Donuts opens at *precisely* 2am, closes at 4, then reopens at 6am (don’t ask me why they need an hour break) and closes again at 2pm. It’s highly inconvenient hours, unless you are an undergrad partying, lol. I don’t know which donut place this guy is referring to.
I wonder if it’s a bylaw dodge like the one that used to see Montreal grocery stores (or possibly just LaSalle ones, I’m not sure) close at 5pm on Saturday, then re-open an hour and a half later.
If I were to open my shop precisely at the time I could expect a horde of drunken college students in search of my product, I would need a break after two hours. Probably for cleanup, damage repair, and giving statements to police.
The original Loki was often the chief problem solver for the Aesir. I’ve always found it a little odd that Marvel didn’t take advantage of his history fire and shape changing.
Also considering Odin’s reputation historical, it was easy to see why those two were blood brothers.
There’s something like a 0% chance that the surviving records from Iceland are the original. What you have is what you got post-christianization, after it was decided to try to alter the myths to make Tor into something Jesus Christ could be injected into, and Loki into Satan. So while it’s /possible/ that’s how Loki was depicted pre-christianization, the fact that it’s so evocative of Christian conceptions of Satan at the time (and if we’re honest, still) make it considerably less likely.
That sounds like too big of a generalization. For one Snorri Sturlson seemed to be genuinely interested in the old myths and legends as they were told, and he already had a cover story in that the gods were supposedly just tribal chiefs who were given divine status after their deaths, so he didn’t have much incentive to change things. Also, the Thor=Jesus connection is kinda strained. One is the Earthly incarnation of God, fully human and fully divine, and the savior of the world who overcame death itself. The other is a dude with a hammer who fights monsters (though not very consistently) and dies from snakebite. In fact, the figure of Jesus was changed a bit to make him closer to Thor (being depicted as a victorious warrior instead of a peaceful wanderer who got crucified) so as to ease conversion. As for Loki, trickster deities are present all over the world, and not all of them are well liked.
It’s Marvel, though. They’re not really aiming for their alien multiverse to 100% match up with Snorri’s Edda. Mjollnir also wasn’t made out of a dead star and certainly wasn’t wieldable by anyone “if he be worthy.”
She’s a Republican. The only way ‘dudes kissin” is anywhere in her official platform is if it’s followed by either ‘their totally female wives’ or ‘is gross’.
I’m waiting for the moment where Milo takes over the Republican Party. We’re all promised fun times then. Though, you know, it’s kind of scary, because between his awful ideas and actual charm and wits, this could go from funny into nightmare.
In Shortpacked, Fart Captor’s description would have been apt of her platform. And, speaking as a straight man, she’d have my vote (just so long as the dudes kissing wasn’t mandatory).
In this continuity, Robin seems to have a political platform roughly similar to Sara Pailin or Donald Trump, that being “repeat right wing talking points enough and you don’t actually need to comprehend things… like the word ‘comprehend’.”
Not so much a plan as a fantasy. I think we’ve established Leslie is thinking with the OTHER end of the brainstem.
Something like: Robin will suddenly see me in the crowd, with all my “charms” illuminated by the fountain pool lights. Our eyes will meet and she’ll decide there and then to give up politics and run away with me.
Logical plan 0.1%, Wishful thinking 99.9%. (But I’m a fan of wishful thinking too.)
Exactly!!! Plus, her plan B, which is rather more realistic, is “Ogle Robin from the crowd while doing the best no to listen to anything she is actually saying. Go home alone for some ‘trickle down economics'”
I wonder if donut sign guy will become a recurring character? He doesn’t have a tag, but he’s great(?), ’cause he’s this guy who can be talked into holding random political signs he doesn’t know the meaning of because he’s bored, until he wants donuts instead. Perhaps in another life, he was drafted into a secret government organization, wore a yellow stripe on his shirt ’cause all the cool kids were doing, then wandered off to get donuts and all of that secret organization’s best agents (top-tier talents) couldn’t locate him ’cause he was just so smooth of a dude.
Yeah, it certainly used to be a far bigger deal than it usually* is today. We’ve taken some serious leaps in making diabetes manageable. Betcha that while you still watch what you eat much closer than what I do**, at least you have more options now than 30 years ago.
*I say usually, because I’ve witnessed some of the technology malfunction, which almost killed my cousin once.
**Might not be a valid comparison, because I should watch what I eat at least a bit closer.
Curious considering other Leslie had a bad habit of tossing unused bags 😛
Oh Leslie you cannot escape the politics, but maybe Robin sees you, and smiles 😛
The rally was magical. Before I knew it I had been swept up by the crowd. The energy was everywhere. People held signs, laughed and sang, and thee were donuts for everyone. Trickle down economics – it totally worked!
Even I got a sign to hold, a sign with the state representative’s name. Maybe, just maybe I would keep it after the night was over.”
Why does Leslie have such an obsession with Robin in this universe? As far as she knows, she’s “my shitty student’s hot sister who stands for everything I despise”. What sort of well adjusted person, a teacher no less, does this sort of gank?
Also why is her being at this rally so bad to her? As long as she doesn’t VOTE for Robin, there’s no problem going to a political rally. Hell, it may even get her to have a more complete view for the upcoming election, yeah?
And also she’s a really driven, ambitious and successful woman, breaking glass ceilings like they were annoying aliens and she was a super speedster super soldier. Which is kinda hot.
As for why Leslie is embarrassed to be seen at the rally… she ISN’T here for political studies. She is here to get laid (if she’s extremely lucky) or to ogle her crush and slip home for some… campaigning of her own. She might not feel confident in her ability to uphold a smooth lie to the contrary while her capoodle is fully in charge.
TLDR – she does something stupid because she is horny, while fully aware that it is stupid.
She’s also an amoral douchebag who prioritizes her own advancement over pretty much every other consideration. Leslie’s weird crush on her actually makes me like her less as a person because apparently she’s able to overlook the fact that Robin’s amoral opportunism poses a very real threat to marginalized groups.
I think what you’re saying dangerously borders “Leslie should dehumanize Robin because of her choice of politics”. Which type of thinking poses a very real threat to groups of people like Robin.
See, the problem with individual rights is that you have to protect the rights even of the people who are advocating against these rights. Otherwise the whole concept will break down.
“Protect the rights”, certainly. But I don’t see any reason to think Robin’s rights are in peril here. She’s in Congress after all. Where’s the “very real threat”?
Can we deal with the actual threats to the rights of marginalized groups before we worry about hypothetical threats to the rights of those in power?
No it doesn’t. I never said Robin’s not a person I said she’s a disgusting person who actively endangers other people with her “choice of politics” and Leslie should know better. You know what’s not an individual right? The people you’re trying to strip ACTUAL rights from liking you.
Nah, Joe is actually learning A LOT at her class – people like him are prime targets of her teaching style (as are people like Walky). She has MUCH more trouble with Roz.
But really, I don’t think Leslie is the kind of teacher who thinks of ANY student as a shitty student.
Um, Joe is not really growing in any visible way to her? Like, he spent his last class moment in focus specifically going out of his way to ever be noticed, and had put no thought in besides the surface level ‘avoid trouble’ answer.
I like him and all, but if someone were going to be considered a bad student in a gender studies class, I’d think it’s the guy who still thinks it’s appropriate to walk in and announce his presence with “By the way, I have an impressive penis that you would all enjoy in bed.” or “what happened, did I miss lesbians making out for my amusement”. Even over the angry girl who doesn’t forgive easily, if at all.
Oh, much more than surface level. Joe put a lot of thought into how to give the expected answer, which means that he also had to spend a lot of time thinking through the actual question. In Leslie’s words – calculated.
Joe clowns around a lot in gender studies because the topic makes him intensely uncomfortable, and there is a HUGE discrepancy between what he learns and what he admits to learn. This is not lost on Leslie who step by step nudges him to reconsider his preconceptions.
No, he didn’t put a lot of thought on. That’s just the single most obvious expected thing. That’s legitimately not a thoughtful answer. “Everyone does everything equally” is a way to not have to think about what that really means, or if that’s really a manageable way to handle it. And it’s not like a lack of familiarity is an excuse – Joyce stumbled onto the correct answer purely on accident. *WALKY* put more thought into this, by actually saying a thing that wasn’t nominally expected.
Like, I like Joe. Not just on some tiny level. Joe makes me happy in a lot of ways. But I’m not going to pretend he’s something eh’s not.
Plus, again, he still walks in by sexually harrassing people. He did it like a week back from that very strip. He’s a month in, and this is a basic lesson.
I’m not asking you to disregard Joes many flaws or anything, and exactly how much thought he put into his gender studies class and how much he actually learns will probably have to stay a disputed topic for now (although I’m pretty sure we will learn more about it at some point).
But let’s look at it from Leslie’s point of view. I promise you Joe has done exactly NOTHING in class that has surprised her and she hasn’t been prepared for so far, and she not only tolerates but gently encourages his antics. http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/spouse/
Leslie teaches by creating an informal classroom, and in that sort of environments the clowns really have a chance to learn. Walky has absolutely benefited, and I think Joe has as well.
Joe chose to take a gender studies class; I am fairly confident — not certain, but fairly confident — that much of his behaviour in and around that class is a defense mechanism to hide whatever the >actual< reason he's taking it is behind a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Look at the difference between his text conversations with Joyce and how he behaves in public. All that stuff about wanting to study "scissoring" or what have you? That's him playing into a horndog stereotype. If that's why he was actually there, I'm dead certain he would've dropped the course by now when it became clear that that was not what it was going to be about.
Roz is like that student that knows most 101 stuff and wants to learn 201 stuff. But she still needs to review that 101 stuff and she does not currently want to admit that. Too much of her energy is invested in identifying as a progressive (maybe some in opposition to her sister and/or parents politics). This leads to outbursts because she does have a temper. She has the fire necessary for activism but has not learned that some people are more reachable than they appear at first (Joyce).
It will be interesting to see what else she knows about gender other than slut shaming is bad, gender stereotypes are bad, homophobia is bad, and conservative politics are often used to hurt minorities. I suspect she has some blind spots she may not know about. I would like to see race discussed in Leslie’s class in relation to gender. Maybe in 2030 Willis?
I think Roz’s problem isn’t that she doesn’t think people like Joyce are reachable. She doesn’t even seem to think they’re worth reaching.
She doesn’t dispute that Joyce has changed her position or learned how wrong she had been. She gets mad at the possibility of Joyce’s prior ignorance being forgiven. And also at Dorothy for “enabling” it by not trying to change all of Joyce’s beliefs at once (or something? I really can’t what Roz thought she should have done). Then she tries to pin the blame for the actions of the people responsible for Joyce’s ignorance on her, as if completely rejecting everything she’d been raised to believe is something she should have occurred to her to do (and been accomplished) years ago.
Dorothy, on the other hand, actually helped guide Joyce out of her ignorance in a way that helped ensure that what progress she made actually stuck. Roz would have sent her running back into it, because on some level she’d rather punish that ignorance than actually help cure it, because punishing it feels more satisfying.
In a way, her smug, self-righteous gate-keeping of morality kind of eerily mirrors that of people like Mary and Carol. So I definitely agree that it would be interesting to see if/how she ends up discovering her own blind spots. I could easily see her becoming a villain for a while before she’s willing to admit she’s not actually a perfect feminist herself.
Joe’s kinda like Leslie’s Prodigal Son – he knows nothing about the subject he’s come here to learn, and is opposed to learning anything, so anything he does learn is a victory for Leslie. Even if the only thing he does learn is that he has a lot to learn.
Roz, OTOH, is the Good Son. She already knows (or thinks she knows) everything there is to know about this class, and so can’t really learn anything. There’s no sense of accomplishment for Leslie there.
Yes, actually. Considering that Leslie hates Robin’s politics, the best outcome would be for her to seduce Robin, have Roz take pics and post them on the Internet. Campaign ruined, sexytimes had, maybe salvage a more moderate politician/girlfriend from the ruins?
I’m gonna have to agree with everyone else saying Leslie should follow donut guy. Robin may be physically hot, but her politics are terrible, so getting donuts is clearly the better option.
Who is there in the cast? Politically incompatible (Robin), already in a relationship, or IU students (may not be an ethics violation if they are not in her class, but still gives an appearance of impropriety).
So, Asma, Chloe, Marcie, or Becky? Or minor background characters like nameless waitress?
Except of course for the bit where he could win. But he’s a fine protest vote, if you’ve got the leisure for that. And you’re happy with a former Republican governor. 🙂
Personally, I’m against him on many issues, but voting for him is a good way to say “I’m a Republican but I don’t hate (gays/blacks/mexicans/muslims/etc).”
Aaaand we have a winner. A bit obvious, maybe, but sometimes the most obvious point is the best way to get it across. Have ten Imperial Internet Points, John!
P.S. Bet you’re happy that Joyce’s brother hasn’t been around for some strips, so that now you can search for your own comments again. 😉
Seriously, a donut place that closes?! In the middle of the night, no less? Honestly, Willis, where’s the verisimilitude now? I mean, we have that one place that’s open pretty much 24×365(.24 🙂 ) and then we have th other chain that’s open from 5am or so, until 3pm (give or take) – except on Mondays, when people NEED donuts the most.
Sorry, but I have to give this strip a B-, for causing my reality check to bounce. 😀
I know of a doughnut place that opens at 07:00, and closes whenever they’ve sold out today’s batch; which usually happens around noon or sooner. Sometimes as early as nine. Then after closing, they just chill for the rest of the day.
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Well i am going to start today! I am also anti litter! Also yesterday i littered for the first time in ten years because a goshdarned bus driver wouldnt let me bring my empty cider bottle and there were no receptacles and my girlfriend had already got on this night bus and they come every 30 min and its an hour to london bridge sooo…
I did a bad thing 🙁
I am pro litter. In fact, I believe that if we littered enough, we could probably save the Earth from an asteroid if we needed to.
Only if it’s an asteroid made of trash.
I am pro-litter! We should all have more cats!
what
So that’s what a litter box is for. I wondered.
@Mr. Random: Yeah! It’ll just bounce right off!
sorry, I was out getting DO
UGHNUTSUgh, first you take away our U’s, now g AND h!?!?! This is an attack on people that say Ugh alot!
I agree! Here in England, we donut spell that fried good as “donut”. 😛
If she simply doesn’t want to litter, then why not turn the sign around, fold it in half so no-one can read it, or scribble “do not” across the top? xD
There ain’t muffin that ticks me off like misspelled breakfast food >(
(Haven’t been here for a while, are we still doing pun threads?)
Lately people keep waffling over if we still should.
Are we sure we shouldn’t really be pancaking at this point?
…landing aircraft without deploying the landing gear first?
panicking?
Picnicking? 😛
I guess as long as no one grits their teeth about it that’s okay.
Eggsactly.
They keep pudding it off!
I never sausage a bunch of cereal punners.
No, you’re the people who call cookies «biscuits», french fries «chips», actual potato chips «crisps», and give a type of pudding a name that sounds more like a venereal disease (“spotted dick”, for those of you who didn’t make the connection). So of course you don’t spell it as «donuts» OR «doughnuts»; you skirt the issue completely and call ’em «crullers».
So what do they call biscuits?
Also, is it possible on the boat ride over someone tossed some u’s from their Scrabble game, and just decided to cut them out of a bunch of words to be able to keep playing?
“No, ‘Colour’ is not spelled with a ‘U’ in it.”
“But you just pronounced it with one.”
“No I didn’t. ‘Color’, see?
American English is ’cause they hated Britain so much they didn’t quite want to make up a whole new language but threw out some letters here and there to not be the same
also idk what this MM/DD/YYYY format is but that happened too
Actually, most of the differences in spelling between British English and American English turn out to be that American English retained the original spellings, while British English tried to fancy itself up by using faux-French spellings for everything. 😛 (I’ve confirmed this with both my own English teachers at school here in the UK, and with friends from America; they both say the same thing).
We have biscuits, and cookies; they’re not the same thing to us. Look up Maryland Cookies some time. (Hint: they’re actually not from Maryland, they’re a UK brand). Meanwhile Digestives, for example, are biscuits.
We also have chips (fries to those in the US), and French Fries (the ridiculously stick-thin ones that McDonalds serve), and Crisps comes in packets and are produced by Walkers (potato chips to Americans).
And no, we don’t use the word donut, we use doughnut. Nobody would ever call a doughnut a cruller, that’s something else entirely! 😛
As to the matter of the Spotted Dick…it’s actually named after King Richard the Lionheart. And the “spots” of course are the raisins. 🙂
Ana Chronistic – I completely agree about the weirdness of the MM/DD/YYYY date format. But tbh, the best format for use on computers these days is YYYY/MM/DD anyway… xD (which I believe is the French system?)
Blame Webster, he of the dictionary.
actually I blame whoever paid early scribes by the letter so they padded words (like frend → friend)
also the appropriation of like 43579845 other languages
“The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and riffle their pockets for new vocabulary.”
James Nicholson
That format YYYY-MM-DD is from ISO 8601 which is the “standard” for formating dates.
For Indianians with 3 time zones, this video on computers and time zones may be amusing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY
The pointless ‘u’ made no sense, anyway. English spelling is enough of a crapshoot as it is.
“I before E, except after C, and about half of the time”
Vowel pairings give off different sounds, i believe german has something similar where the dominant sound is the last vowel, except except in english it might be the first? Like in qUeue or lEague
The German diphthongs are:
AU, pronounced as the “ou” in “house”;
EI, pronounced as the word “I”;
AI, rare, pronounced identically to EI;
IE, pronounced as the “ee” in “see”;
EU, pronounced as the “oy” in “boy”, and
A:U, pronounced identically to EU (the colon is an umlaut on the preceding A).
Also, in a pinch, A:, O: and U: can be written AE, OE and UE, as the umlaut as a diacritic is derived from the letter E in these contexts. I’m not sure why IE didn’t devolve, but it probably has to do with the absence of any appreciable sound change (Remember: German, as with almost every other language on the Continent, did not go through a Great Vowel Shift, all I’s are pronounced “ee”. The reason for the mnemonic as you remember it (correctly, so kudos) is because of the Great Vowel Shift and that pronouncing “shiessen” (to shoot) with an EI is embarrassing.)
Talking of pointless vowels – and consonants – the word “eight” is a particular offender.
I’ve never heard of “crullers”. You sure you’re not getting the UK and New England mixed up?
I think they are, on that point.
Our biscuits are and are particularly good with
Well, I screwed up those links
What the US calls biscuits overlaps with what the UK calls scones – used to be one of the wikipedia articles for one of them had a photo with the other in the filename.
Its doughnut …. and tosser is slang for masturbation.
Brit here coming to clarify these differences! Cookies and biscuits are different things, cookies are cookies, biscuits are for dunking in tea #sobritish
Chips are proper potato chunky chips (not crisps!) whereas fries are those skinny mcdonald kind of chips. We do say both! Chips more often than not though.
What on earth are crullers? We call them doughnuts. Doughy goodness~
Spotted dick is a hilariously named dessert, but it is pretty old school. You don’t have many people eating that anymore, not really.
To top it off American Biscuits are scones?
I read it the other way around.
Fellow Brit here! 🙂 Crullers are I believe a weird, twisty variant of a doughnut. Like maybe the doughnut got off with a pretzel or something. 😛 lol sorry couldn’t resist that.
Spotted dick comes from King Richard. But yeah, that’s an old school dessert, hasn’t really been wildly popular since the war. 🙂
Since I didn’t see anyone post this, and there’s a bit of confusion, here we go.
These may be the things I’ve heard called real doughnuts from the good old days. Their twisted nature means they will automatically turn themselves over while cooking in hot fat. Unlike these modern namby-pamby toroidal things which require a baker’s assistant to babysit them and turn them manually at the correct moment.
Well, if I’m going to eat a doughnut, it’s going to be a cruller, because they are light and fluffy and yummy.
Other than that, the existential angst of this character who I don’t remember is not terribly engaging.
Also, doughnut shop guy has just, like, the absolute worst approach. You’re supposed to say “I just have this sign because the some girl handed it to me and I was bored. But the doughnut shop closes in 10 minutes, so how about you and I go get a doughnut and some coffee?”
Because there’s nothing like a doughnut and a cup of coffee with a new and attractive friend when you’re already up at 1AM in the morning, which I assume it’s about 10 minutes til since the rally was a midnight rally and not many shops close at 12:15.
Oberon — maybe ‘donut guy’ is gay and just isn’t attracted to Leslie?
Here in Aus we will tend to the Brit spelling, but are often lazy. However I did some work in a boutique bakery and as a result to me a DOUGHNUT uses DOUGH, ie it is made with yeast and given time to rise. If it was made with from one of those ring shaped doungnut dispensers, it was made with CAKE BATTER, and I will insult it as a CAKENUT or a DOnut
A cake nut is lovely, but doughtnuts are ten times better than cake nuts
(also, you Americans got Aluminum wrong. Its Aluminium. Blame Webster for that. 😛 )
Nonsense. It’s Donut because it’s made of doh!
I always thought that “Donut” was a trademark spelling of Dunkin Donuts, and other major donut companies (e.g. Krispy Kreme) were required to use the full “Doughnut” spelling.
DOUGH-NOUGHTS round things what is made from doughy stuff.
Doughnoughts, the larval forms of Breadnoughts?
… slow clap …
Breadnought? Is that a tasty, crusty, leavened battleship?
One of the most formidable of the chips of the line. But they should never be deployed without a screen of crullers to protect them from sub sandwiches.
O my goodness….I sea what you did there…
xDDD
All off you. Have a well earned internet. Take TWO!
Scene from the recent Cohen Brothers’ The Three Stooges movie:
(Curly, Moe and Larry are hiding in a church belfry. Curly has stolen something.)
Moe: Why, you imbecile! Now the cops are after us!
Curly: Wait, Moe! I’ve got donuts, see?
*Moe grabs donuts, stuffs them in Curly’s ears*
Curly: NYA-A-AH! Look what you’ve done! Now I’ve got donuts in my ears!
Larry: Well, it’s a good thing we have a donut remover!
*Curly and Moe stare at him*
Moe: How’s that?
*Larry pulls one of the pins that holds the bell in place out, shows them an attached tag*
Larry: See? It says right here: Dough (DO) Nut (NOT) Remov-uh (REMOVE)!
Moe: Oh, nice work!
Curly: Yeah, good thing one of us can read!
(Later the bell does fall, to hilarious effect)
Not a proper boob window, but there are LEDs woven into the fabric for emphasis.
Maybe Leslie’s boob just glow when she’s embarrassed.
A great replacement for flashlights!
“Oh no, I dropped my car keys in the dark! How humiliating!”
VOM
“Oh, there they are.”
I thought the term was headlights.
“Cupid’s kettledrums”.
Thank you for making that joke before I could.
She’s a Cylon. A skinjob. A frakkin’ toaster.
Leslie chose that spot to sit specifically for the strategic spotlight. Probably spent a couple minutes finding just the right position…
…aaand then gets stuck holding a sign that blocks both the light and view of her lady pillows. The whole plan is falling apart and Robin’s not even here yet!
🙁
Huh? What are —
**looks at the comic again**
Oh. Huh.
….
Now I can’t unsee it. Thanks. :p
On full beam, as it were.
Man, I hope nobody Leslie knows pops up. 😉
We’ll only find out in the Slipshine.
Kinky. 🙂
Thus continues the slow yet inevitable spiral of “it seemed like a good idea at the time”.
And it didn’t even seem like a good idea at the time. She keeps doing it anyway.
Yeah, and it’s honestly making me like her less. It’s not too bad now, as it’s conceivable that she just wanted to look at her and talk to her. But she’s getting closer and closer to giving up her principles over a hot woman.
And she’s not some kid growing up who doesn’t know better.
I really hope this arc doesn’t ruin Leslie for me.
If anyone ends up in a compromising position here, it’s Robin’s “family values” platform that’s taking the hit.
Seriously though…donuts…ten minutes…smart man.
Re-elect DeSanto as mayor of Leslie’s pants.
Leslie’s going to accidentally become campaign manager, isn’t she.
Maybe all those people who got suckered into Trump’s campaign don’t actually agree with him at all. Maybe they’re just entranced by that luxurious mane of I can’t finish this thought I may actually vomit.
Actually, you’re more right than you know. Not so much about the hairy brain parasite on his head. A considerable portion of the Republican party lined up behind him not because they like what he said, but because they think this is the way to win.
As a republican, it makes me sick.
No, the Repugnicans kept saying “Anyone but Hillary” — and by making Trump their nominee they proved that they weren’t kidding when they said “anybody”.
That’s actually what I said. Without childish namecalling, however.
I think you’re both in agreement that the Repub’s nomination of Trump was a blatantly callous political move that has served to alienate mainstream conservatives and will probably spell the doom of the Republican party as we know it. You both need to stop arguing over semantics and agree that you agree.
That’s also what I said.
Though I fear the idea of mainstream conservatives is also going to be a victim of Trump’s run. The entire idea of conservatism is being pulled to the radical end of the spectrum.
I’m thinking of abandoning my conservative label in favor of “Radical Centrist”.
The opposite also applies. I am an Independent. I have voted for both republicans and democrats*. I am no fan of Hillary, but for me it is a matter of “Anyone but Trump.” I would vote for a toaster over Donald Trump. A toaster can make lovely toast, cheaply and efficiently. Donald would bankrupt my household in the process of trying to make toast…
* Although I must admit that I am disgusted by the current state of the Republican party and have voted a straight Dem ticket since the Republicans staged their little walkout of the bipartisan financial committee back in the stone age. You were elected to do a job! If I told the person paying me that I refused to attend meetings that I was appointed to attend, I’d be fired. So I fired them all, as far as my vote goes.
The Republican Party, since the realignment that accompanied Nixon’s Southern Strategy, has been courting white nationalists and theocrats with sly winks and dog whistles, and has ramped their efforts up hard since 2001.
You reap what you sow.
She keeps making sarcastic suggestions for extreme positions that Robin takes at face value and has great success with.
You mentioned Leslie and Robyn and ‘extreme positions’, and my mind just went to a Place.
What are you doing Les? You could’ve gone with the man to the donuts place!
Seriously. There’s like a 65% chance Robin will actually already be there, she’s ROBIN.
That would be adorable
“After a night of crushing disapointments Leslie says Screw it all and goes to the donut shop only to find ROBIN, alone and on a sugar kick!
‘Are you going to eat all of those yourself,’ Robin says between gulps, staring mostly at the bag of donuts Leslie clutches to her chest, but also at the bags of Leslie* behind said bag
‘Maybe, maybe not. Why don’t you follow me hope and find out,’ Leslie says with bravado she didn’t know she had.
And there were all the mouth smooches.”
*) WORST METAPHOR FOR BREAST EVER!!!
*home
Just checking, is inviting people to donut shops a new kind of come-on?
Bavarian cream and chill?
I…I think you may have just turned the phrase “Bavarian cream” into a sex act. We won’t know for about another half an hour though.
I’m pretty sure a “Bavarian cream” is already a sex act.
**checks Google**
Yup. Although it wasn’t what I was expecting. Kinda has nothing to do with a bavarian cream really. Hm.
Per Rule 34: EVERY phrase is already a sex act.
And if you manage to find one that’s not, it will spontaneously become one.
she’s not anti-donut she just supports lesbian goodies.
Signs, Signs everywhere are Signs…
Really great job with the lighting, man.
Tsunleslie: “It’s just my public-spirited concern for the environment! I-it’s not because I like her or anything!”
Fun fact for the hovertext: tosser is British English slang for someone overly fond of masturbation, or just a general pejorative term. I’m sure Willis knew that, but I imagine some readers wouldn’t.
Nobody actually says it though outside of american movies, we prefer “wanker” which i believe in your language would be “one who jacls off*
Despite living in the US I can only name one example in an American movie and that’s when Don Cheadle said it in the Ocean’s Eleven remake.
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Harry is referred to as a tosser. By himself. And he still got the date. Then Dumbledore cockblocked him. And I need to stop before I explain the whole plot…
I’m sure there’s a statute of limitations on spoilers.
I’m sure there is… HOWEVER, I really do prefer it that outside of specific forums dedicated to TV shows, people’s attitudes to spoilers is simply: Don’t.
Really. All the nitpicking and arguing back and forth about what exact statute should be… When in reality, there is always a whole bunch of people that for a whole bunch of reasons has not gotten around to this or that specific book/video game/movie/TV show/etc. It’s much, much easier —and more polite— to simply assume no statutes.
I mean, it’s not like we don’t have options to discuss such things in places where spoilers are expected, such as dedicated internet forums, or private Facebook groups, etc. It is in fact soooo easy to discuss your favourite choices of entertainment with others without spoiling it for those that haven’t been around to it yet.
And book readers seem to be better about this than most people. Just look at TheGrammarLegionary. Or another example, Game of Thrones the TV series. The ASoIaF book readers knew what was coming, but they did not go around spoiling things.
In fact, we (I was one of them) loved how, a decade after, suddenly a whole bunch of new audiences were getting a taste of what turned a whole genre on its head. If we had been “Oh, statute of limitations”, then there would be a buttload of scenes that would not have created the same impact as it did. We kept quiet because we wanted the viewers to also get punched in the gut like we were.
And then the show watchers insisted on spoiling it by talking about it the next day without any warnings. Or news sites talking about it put up spoilers in the very headline. Go figure.
OK, rant over.
In fairness to non-book-readers, the biggest spoiler I ever got was from someone who still hasn’t seen the movie seven years later (same movie I referenced above, in fact). And there’s actually nothing in my post to suggest I’ve ever read the book myself; that scene was only depicted in the film (the book used an awkward conversation with the Dursleys to achieve the same basic plot point).
That said, thanks for acknowledging those of us who take care to avoid giving away spoilers. It’s nice to know the effort isn’t wasted.
Eh, it’s a region/age/context thing. I still hear it fairly often, especially when the situation demands a slightly-less-sweary insult.
True. But if I hear it being used like “Don’t be a fucking tosser” I tend to expect blows being exchanged.
This was indeed a fun fact. I cannot stop laughing for more than s couple seconds at a time now, though.
I use the term ‘pisser’ at times as well.
Leslie doesn’t think Robin’s a tosser.
She just wants to ‘toss her’
If the donut place closes in ten minutes the donuts aren’t likely to be very good, or very plentiful. And wouldn’t the donut shop near a college be open 24 hours a day, for all the kids coming out of clubs at 2 AM?
But any that are left are half-off or better!
There were like 6 pizza places near my campus, but only 1 that was open past midnight, which is exactly the time when pizza becomes an impulse buy.
Wasn’t very good pizza either, but a large single topping was just $5, and after midnight any pizza is the best pizza ever, especially pizza a college kid can afford.
There is a technical fix for this problem, but it has not made it that far west yet. Pizza ATMs!
How is this not a bigger thing?!?!?!?!?
Yeah, that way we wouldn’t have to order and wait for the pizza.
Very much the proper avatar.
Pizza Automatic Tossing Machine?
Papa Johns’?
Bloomingtonian here. Square Donuts opens at *precisely* 2am, closes at 4, then reopens at 6am (don’t ask me why they need an hour break) and closes again at 2pm. It’s highly inconvenient hours, unless you are an undergrad partying, lol. I don’t know which donut place this guy is referring to.
I’d speculate that from 4-6 they are out delivering most of those they baked from 2-4.
I wonder if it’s a bylaw dodge like the one that used to see Montreal grocery stores (or possibly just LaSalle ones, I’m not sure) close at 5pm on Saturday, then re-open an hour and a half later.
If I were to open my shop precisely at the time I could expect a horde of drunken college students in search of my product, I would need a break after two hours. Probably for cleanup, damage repair, and giving statements to police.
lotsa people have problamatic crushes. look at all the loki fans.
I’ve always loved Loki! Not the annoying Marvel one, the ORIGINAL Trickster. The FIRE GIANT blood BROTHER of ODIN!
Sorry, nerd twitch there. I mean, how much can you get wrong, oh ice giant adopted brother of Thor who basically has no relation to his namesake?
Addendum: the original is also red haired. Not black haired. Seriously, how much can you get wrong and maintain credibility for the name?
The original Loki was often the chief problem solver for the Aesir. I’ve always found it a little odd that Marvel didn’t take advantage of his history fire and shape changing.
Also considering Odin’s reputation historical, it was easy to see why those two were blood brothers.
To be fair, apparently the comics add a little bit of the original mythology in, and use it to establish that Loki is genderfluid.
You should read the new Loki: Agent of Asgard series. Loki as a (sorta?) good guy.
Loki was often the Æsir’s problem solver, but quite often that seems to have been a, “This is your fault, you fix it!” thing.
There’s something like a 0% chance that the surviving records from Iceland are the original. What you have is what you got post-christianization, after it was decided to try to alter the myths to make Tor into something Jesus Christ could be injected into, and Loki into Satan. So while it’s /possible/ that’s how Loki was depicted pre-christianization, the fact that it’s so evocative of Christian conceptions of Satan at the time (and if we’re honest, still) make it considerably less likely.
That sounds like too big of a generalization. For one Snorri Sturlson seemed to be genuinely interested in the old myths and legends as they were told, and he already had a cover story in that the gods were supposedly just tribal chiefs who were given divine status after their deaths, so he didn’t have much incentive to change things. Also, the Thor=Jesus connection is kinda strained. One is the Earthly incarnation of God, fully human and fully divine, and the savior of the world who overcame death itself. The other is a dude with a hammer who fights monsters (though not very consistently) and dies from snakebite. In fact, the figure of Jesus was changed a bit to make him closer to Thor (being depicted as a victorious warrior instead of a peaceful wanderer who got crucified) so as to ease conversion. As for Loki, trickster deities are present all over the world, and not all of them are well liked.
Nah, you want problematic, try people who have crushes on Killgrave.
Sure, David Tennet is obviously a very handsome man, but wtf
It’s Marvel, though. They’re not really aiming for their alien multiverse to 100% match up with Snorri’s Edda. Mjollnir also wasn’t made out of a dead star and certainly wasn’t wieldable by anyone “if he be worthy.”
ahhhh, Robin. she and the trickster god have much in common.
C’mon Leslie, I know you like Robin but doughnuts yo.
Does Robin have any real politics?
World peace and dudes kissin’?
The “dudes kissin'” is possible, the first one however….
She’s a Republican. The only way ‘dudes kissin” is anywhere in her official platform is if it’s followed by either ‘their totally female wives’ or ‘is gross’.
I’m waiting for the moment where Milo takes over the Republican Party. We’re all promised fun times then. Though, you know, it’s kind of scary, because between his awful ideas and actual charm and wits, this could go from funny into nightmare.
She introduced a bill to ban cancer.
In Shortpacked, Fart Captor’s description would have been apt of her platform. And, speaking as a straight man, she’d have my vote (just so long as the dudes kissing wasn’t mandatory).
In this continuity, Robin seems to have a political platform roughly similar to Sara Pailin or Donald Trump, that being “repeat right wing talking points enough and you don’t actually need to comprehend things… like the word ‘comprehend’.”
Leslie finds Robin’s politics abhorrent, but her body hot.
…hun, if you didn’t want to look like a supporter, ya coulda just put the poster facedown on your lap…
that guy has his priorities straight
“I’m not supporting her, I just want to dive into her boobs and watch her o-face from up close.”
I wonder how many of her constituents think the same thing. And opponents.
#DesantoHugeHonkers
IIRC, that’s #DeSantoPertJugs
Can we just agree that a rose, by any other name, looks just as great?
i wanna dive into leslies cleavage and sob
Not safe and warm forever like Billie?
“I know Robin’s politics are disturbing, but… I CAN CHANGE HER!!”
“…with my tongue”
Man, poor donut guy. He got conscripted by Frieda, and now he’s decided to litter because otherwise he’ll not have a chance at donuts.
Willis wants us to think they bang.
Willis is a monster.
Willis hates us.
They will not bang.
Or they will bang, and everything will go wrong.
OH GOD. Robin doesn’t have vibro-hands this time around! She won’t be able to fix it!
D:
Ok, I am definitely missing something here. Do I need to have read ShortPacked in order to understand this comment?
Vibro hands is basically exactly what it sounds like.
Here is the link (disappointingly safe for work). HEAVY spoilers for the later half of shortpacked.
http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2020
Yes. Also to understand why I ship these to so hard.
We dont see the back of this guy’s head, but I imagine he has a giant pony tail. Seems like the type.
You can see the back of his head in the first panel.
And the entire comment section votes for … getting donuts! We’ll be back in 20, Leslie. Save us a seat.
So was Leslie’s plan to try and seduce her in the middle of a rally?
Not so much a plan as a fantasy. I think we’ve established Leslie is thinking with the OTHER end of the brainstem.
Something like: Robin will suddenly see me in the crowd, with all my “charms” illuminated by the fountain pool lights. Our eyes will meet and she’ll decide there and then to give up politics and run away with me.
Logical plan 0.1%, Wishful thinking 99.9%. (But I’m a fan of wishful thinking too.)
Exactly!!! Plus, her plan B, which is rather more realistic, is “Ogle Robin from the crowd while doing the best no to listen to anything she is actually saying. Go home alone for some ‘trickle down economics'”
“Oh, baby, I didn’t hear a word you said, but I LOVED the way you said it.”
Willing to bet Roz probably told her to show up, and that she would get her backstage before/after she speaks or something.
I think she was probably just planning on “bumping into” Robin after the rally ended.
I wonder if donut sign guy will become a recurring character? He doesn’t have a tag, but he’s great(?), ’cause he’s this guy who can be talked into holding random political signs he doesn’t know the meaning of because he’s bored, until he wants donuts instead. Perhaps in another life, he was drafted into a secret government organization, wore a yellow stripe on his shirt ’cause all the cool kids were doing, then wandered off to get donuts and all of that secret organization’s best agents (top-tier talents) couldn’t locate him ’cause he was just so smooth of a dude.
Now I crave doughnuts.
Which sucks because I am diabetic.
And I just realized that in a strange way that mirrors Leslie’s dilemma
Is it alright if I pitty you for that? Not everyone likes that, and I don’t want to offend.
Honestly, as a diabetic myself, I haven’t found it to be all that bad.
well, not that it doesn’t suck in comparison to not being diabetic… but it’s certainly manageably and not actually that big a deal.
whoops *manageable
Yeah, it certainly used to be a far bigger deal than it usually* is today. We’ve taken some serious leaps in making diabetes manageable. Betcha that while you still watch what you eat much closer than what I do**, at least you have more options now than 30 years ago.
*I say usually, because I’ve witnessed some of the technology malfunction, which almost killed my cousin once.
**Might not be a valid comparison, because I should watch what I eat at least a bit closer.
Fuck diabetes!
Hasa diga eebowai!
Curious considering other Leslie had a bad habit of tossing unused bags 😛
Oh Leslie you cannot escape the politics, but maybe Robin sees you, and smiles 😛
I’m sure that was store policy
Thus democracy dies – when it becomes a reflex that you indulge out of boredom.
As long as people indulge it at all I’m good.
Does Leslie have friends
Most likely.
Does she have friends she want to see her at the DeSanto Midnight Rally? HELL NO!!!
Evidently not.
“Never had I imagined it would happen me!
The rally was magical. Before I knew it I had been swept up by the crowd. The energy was everywhere. People held signs, laughed and sang, and thee were donuts for everyone. Trickle down economics – it totally worked!
Even I got a sign to hold, a sign with the state representative’s name. Maybe, just maybe I would keep it after the night was over.”
Why does Leslie have such an obsession with Robin in this universe? As far as she knows, she’s “my shitty student’s hot sister who stands for everything I despise”. What sort of well adjusted person, a teacher no less, does this sort of gank?
Also why is her being at this rally so bad to her? As long as she doesn’t VOTE for Robin, there’s no problem going to a political rally. Hell, it may even get her to have a more complete view for the upcoming election, yeah?
Becase Robin is HOT!!!!
And also she’s a really driven, ambitious and successful woman, breaking glass ceilings like they were annoying aliens and she was a super speedster super soldier. Which is kinda hot.
As for why Leslie is embarrassed to be seen at the rally… she ISN’T here for political studies. She is here to get laid (if she’s extremely lucky) or to ogle her crush and slip home for some… campaigning of her own. She might not feel confident in her ability to uphold a smooth lie to the contrary while her capoodle is fully in charge.
TLDR – she does something stupid because she is horny, while fully aware that it is stupid.
She’s also an amoral douchebag who prioritizes her own advancement over pretty much every other consideration. Leslie’s weird crush on her actually makes me like her less as a person because apparently she’s able to overlook the fact that Robin’s amoral opportunism poses a very real threat to marginalized groups.
She doesn’t overlook it- she is very clearly ashamed of her crush. But sometimes attraction doesn’t listen to reason.
Well, her holding the sign gets her points taken off.
I think what you’re saying dangerously borders “Leslie should dehumanize Robin because of her choice of politics”. Which type of thinking poses a very real threat to groups of people like Robin.
See, the problem with individual rights is that you have to protect the rights even of the people who are advocating against these rights. Otherwise the whole concept will break down.
I think it’s more saying “HEY LESLIE, STOP THINKING WITH YOUR COOCH AND BE REALISTIC”
“Protect the rights”, certainly. But I don’t see any reason to think Robin’s rights are in peril here. She’s in Congress after all. Where’s the “very real threat”?
Can we deal with the actual threats to the rights of marginalized groups before we worry about hypothetical threats to the rights of those in power?
No it doesn’t. I never said Robin’s not a person I said she’s a disgusting person who actively endangers other people with her “choice of politics” and Leslie should know better. You know what’s not an individual right? The people you’re trying to strip ACTUAL rights from liking you.
Okay but listen.
What kind of rational, well adjusted human goes this far out of their way cuz they think somebody’s hot.
I dunno, the same sort of rational, well adjusted person who posts everyday at a comic they hate.
Well, when you put it that way, it does seem implausible.
I like the comic, Willis. That’s why I post. I care.
I would think that if Leslie conceptualizes someone as a shitty student, it’s probably Joe.
Nah, Joe is actually learning A LOT at her class – people like him are prime targets of her teaching style (as are people like Walky). She has MUCH more trouble with Roz.
But really, I don’t think Leslie is the kind of teacher who thinks of ANY student as a shitty student.
Um, Joe is not really growing in any visible way to her? Like, he spent his last class moment in focus specifically going out of his way to ever be noticed, and had put no thought in besides the surface level ‘avoid trouble’ answer.
I like him and all, but if someone were going to be considered a bad student in a gender studies class, I’d think it’s the guy who still thinks it’s appropriate to walk in and announce his presence with “By the way, I have an impressive penis that you would all enjoy in bed.” or “what happened, did I miss lesbians making out for my amusement”. Even over the angry girl who doesn’t forgive easily, if at all.
Oh, much more than surface level. Joe put a lot of thought into how to give the expected answer, which means that he also had to spend a lot of time thinking through the actual question. In Leslie’s words – calculated.
And that opened for her to smash in the teaching moment. A teacher lives for moments like this.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/cavemen/
Joe clowns around a lot in gender studies because the topic makes him intensely uncomfortable, and there is a HUGE discrepancy between what he learns and what he admits to learn. This is not lost on Leslie who step by step nudges him to reconsider his preconceptions.
No, he didn’t put a lot of thought on. That’s just the single most obvious expected thing. That’s legitimately not a thoughtful answer. “Everyone does everything equally” is a way to not have to think about what that really means, or if that’s really a manageable way to handle it. And it’s not like a lack of familiarity is an excuse – Joyce stumbled onto the correct answer purely on accident. *WALKY* put more thought into this, by actually saying a thing that wasn’t nominally expected.
Like, I like Joe. Not just on some tiny level. Joe makes me happy in a lot of ways. But I’m not going to pretend he’s something eh’s not.
Plus, again, he still walks in by sexually harrassing people. He did it like a week back from that very strip. He’s a month in, and this is a basic lesson.
I’m not asking you to disregard Joes many flaws or anything, and exactly how much thought he put into his gender studies class and how much he actually learns will probably have to stay a disputed topic for now (although I’m pretty sure we will learn more about it at some point).
But let’s look at it from Leslie’s point of view. I promise you Joe has done exactly NOTHING in class that has surprised her and she hasn’t been prepared for so far, and she not only tolerates but gently encourages his antics.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/spouse/
Leslie teaches by creating an informal classroom, and in that sort of environments the clowns really have a chance to learn. Walky has absolutely benefited, and I think Joe has as well.
Joe chose to take a gender studies class; I am fairly confident — not certain, but fairly confident — that much of his behaviour in and around that class is a defense mechanism to hide whatever the >actual< reason he's taking it is behind a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Look at the difference between his text conversations with Joyce and how he behaves in public. All that stuff about wanting to study "scissoring" or what have you? That's him playing into a horndog stereotype. If that's why he was actually there, I'm dead certain he would've dropped the course by now when it became clear that that was not what it was going to be about.
Roz is like that student that knows most 101 stuff and wants to learn 201 stuff. But she still needs to review that 101 stuff and she does not currently want to admit that. Too much of her energy is invested in identifying as a progressive (maybe some in opposition to her sister and/or parents politics). This leads to outbursts because she does have a temper. She has the fire necessary for activism but has not learned that some people are more reachable than they appear at first (Joyce).
It will be interesting to see what else she knows about gender other than slut shaming is bad, gender stereotypes are bad, homophobia is bad, and conservative politics are often used to hurt minorities. I suspect she has some blind spots she may not know about. I would like to see race discussed in Leslie’s class in relation to gender. Maybe in 2030 Willis?
I think Roz’s problem isn’t that she doesn’t think people like Joyce are reachable. She doesn’t even seem to think they’re worth reaching.
She doesn’t dispute that Joyce has changed her position or learned how wrong she had been. She gets mad at the possibility of Joyce’s prior ignorance being forgiven. And also at Dorothy for “enabling” it by not trying to change all of Joyce’s beliefs at once (or something? I really can’t what Roz thought she should have done). Then she tries to pin the blame for the actions of the people responsible for Joyce’s ignorance on her, as if completely rejecting everything she’d been raised to believe is something she should have occurred to her to do (and been accomplished) years ago.
Dorothy, on the other hand, actually helped guide Joyce out of her ignorance in a way that helped ensure that what progress she made actually stuck. Roz would have sent her running back into it, because on some level she’d rather punish that ignorance than actually help cure it, because punishing it feels more satisfying.
In a way, her smug, self-righteous gate-keeping of morality kind of eerily mirrors that of people like Mary and Carol. So I definitely agree that it would be interesting to see if/how she ends up discovering her own blind spots. I could easily see her becoming a villain for a while before she’s willing to admit she’s not actually a perfect feminist herself.
Joe’s kinda like Leslie’s Prodigal Son – he knows nothing about the subject he’s come here to learn, and is opposed to learning anything, so anything he does learn is a victory for Leslie. Even if the only thing he does learn is that he has a lot to learn.
Roz, OTOH, is the Good Son. She already knows (or thinks she knows) everything there is to know about this class, and so can’t really learn anything. There’s no sense of accomplishment for Leslie there.
Exactly like that! Thanks for phrasing it much better than I did!
In Leslie’s own words.
Is “Don’t be a tosser” an anti-littering slogan in other parts of the world too?
Cool.
Is that an Australian thing? It sounds like an Australian thing.
Yes, it is. Keep Australia Beautiful. Do the right thing.
I guess Australia jokeblocked Willis on this one.
Cool slogan though
heh, alt text.
Leslie wants to be Robin’s October surprise, if you know what I mean.
(Please, someone tell me what I mean.)
She wants to trick-or-treat at Robin’s house, and tell her “I want candy”?
She wants to trick-or-treat at Robin’s house, and tell her “I want candy”?
somehow that double-posted, sorry
An unpleasant revelation, designed to discredit DeSanto and derail her bid for re-election?
Yes, actually. Considering that Leslie hates Robin’s politics, the best outcome would be for her to seduce Robin, have Roz take pics and post them on the Internet. Campaign ruined, sexytimes had, maybe salvage a more moderate politician/girlfriend from the ruins?
Fantasy confirmed.
Outing Robin and attempting to ruin her career seems like something that would sink that ship immediately and permanently.
The former is also something I doubt Leslie would want any part in. I don’t even think Roz would knowingly do that.
No…but I could see the blond girl from the student newspaper (Dorothy’s boss…can’t remember her name) being all over that if she got wind of it…
She might be thrilled to learn of it, but I can’t see Daisy being on board with outing another queer lady either.
It goes without saying, But I love Leslie so much!
Don’t be a tosser*
*Unless you’re tossing Robin’s salad. Then it’s okay.
I’m gonna have to agree with everyone else saying Leslie should follow donut guy. Robin may be physically hot, but her politics are terrible, so getting donuts is clearly the better option.
She could always turn the sign around and hold up the blank side. Of course, then she’d be forced to look at it.
Get better taste in women Leslie.
Who is there in the cast? Politically incompatible (Robin), already in a relationship, or IU students (may not be an ethics violation if they are not in her class, but still gives an appearance of impropriety).
So, Asma, Chloe, Marcie, or Becky? Or minor background characters like nameless waitress?
(Forgot Jocelyne)
Now that I think about it, have we gotten a confirmation of Jocelyne’s sexuality? Cause I’m aboard that ship if it’s a possibility.
She said she’s not gay and she certainly seemed to be attracted to Ethan. Sounds like that’s not a possibility.
I like Asma/Leslie actually. They seem like they’d get along and be able to help each other when stressed out by work.
Being single is still better than Robin.
Fold it and chuck it in the bin.
Thinking of DeSanto’s politics as abhorrent is exactly why she should be there, but oh well. We know what’s this all about.
Leslie glances around nervously, then while no one is looking, folds the top half of the poster back, so it reads only ‘DeSanto’.
“There, now I’m not actually advocating voting for her. I’m… just… really a fan of her name.”
Then she proceeds to write “TONIGHT” on the folded part of the sign, in the hope Robin will get the hint.
wait wait no I done wrong
Then she proceeds to write “FUCK” on the folded part of the sign, in the hope Robin will get the hint.
if someone was walking around with a sign that said
FUCK SOME1!
Them wanting to have sex with me would not be my first guess.
What if they wrote:
FUCK SOME1 TONIGHT!
Would that make a difference?
Ron Paul 2012?
Ron’s not running. Gary is, and he is the best choice out of everyone running.
Except of course for the bit where he could win. But he’s a fine protest vote, if you’ve got the leisure for that. And you’re happy with a former Republican governor. 🙂
Personally, I’m against him on many issues, but voting for him is a good way to say “I’m a Republican but I don’t hate (gays/blacks/mexicans/muslims/etc).”
Love thine enemy.
It’s silly. It’s better to get her not elected, so then she can come in and make feel better.
Okay, Leslie, now get a magic marker, flip the sign over, and make yourself a “PROPOSITION 469” sign.
Aaaand we have a winner. A bit obvious, maybe, but sometimes the most obvious point is the best way to get it across. Have ten Imperial Internet Points, John!
P.S. Bet you’re happy that Joyce’s brother hasn’t been around for some strips, so that now you can search for your own comments again. 😉
Seriously, a donut place that closes?! In the middle of the night, no less? Honestly, Willis, where’s the verisimilitude now? I mean, we have that one place that’s open pretty much 24×365(.24 🙂 ) and then we have th other chain that’s open from 5am or so, until 3pm (give or take) – except on Mondays, when people NEED donuts the most.
Sorry, but I have to give this strip a B-, for causing my reality check to bounce. 😀
The best donuts I’ve ever had were at a place that closed at 3pm.
THREE PM.
that sounds like The Pancake House
but with doughnuts
I know of a doughnut place that opens at 07:00, and closes whenever they’ve sold out today’s batch; which usually happens around noon or sooner. Sometimes as early as nine. Then after closing, they just chill for the rest of the day.
Time check.
Hey, why was my Johnson/Weld comment deleted?