Well if you’re into dudes and you happen to like a little romance and plot to go with your porn what’s better than two dudes banging after an angsty backstory? Granted, most of the yaoi genre is filled with crap, but it’s porn, it’s not like it needs to be super tasteful all the time.
the hands are as big as anime eyes but like david always likes to do is to givith and taketh away on a side note some one beat jenaside to first comment today
I don’t know about other guys, but I prefer lesbian porn that’s geared to men not because of specific fantasies about attempting to get with lesbians, but just because it’s hotter for me to watch a woman and a second woman than to watch a woman and a man. That way, I don’t get feelings of inadequacy whilst enjoying mah pr0nz. 😛
It is a pretty simple formula to make porn hotter for some people. Remove the person they find unattractive, replace them with someone they’d find attractive.
Well the idea is that Yaoi is marketed towards women while Bara is marketed towards men. Yaoi tends to be more romantic and stuff I guess. I think it’s a cultural thing since as a dude I still prefer yaoi, though both are awesome.
Oooh I know this one! In japanese culture, dominance in women is heavily frowned on. Now, Yaoi usually has one older, dominant boy paired with a younger, passive boy. The idea was that a woman reader could safely put herself in the place of either character, even the dominant one, without causing them to violate cultural norms, allowing them to experience feelings which would make them feel uncomfortable in real life.
So I guess the truth is, it is primarily marketed to Japanese women, for cultural reasons.
Okay, THIS makes the most sense to me, and even then I don’t get why females who are attracted to guys would read about guys liking guys to make themselves feel happy, but hey, there’s tones of people that go for it.
And now the knowledge that Dude Smut (my guess is that is the name of the next slipshine, the one with 3 or more dudes) is going to forever hang over Joyce’s innocent little head for the rest of the day.
The Dude Smut websites will notice the traffic coming from Indiana University suddenly skyrocket, and then Ruth will suddenly have to deal with more complaints about permanent markered dongs.
Ooh! They’ve also got hand-rubbed lacquers! (Seriously, for a custom pen website that’s had to deal with an unfortunate name for its entire existence, their web designers are terrible at removing innuendo)
I don’t think I was ready when I came out. It was cause by boyfriend induced trauma (AKA Getting a text message that read like a suicide note and then not hearing from him for hours. I texted him daily after that for awhile) Coming out is scary. That said the more people you tell, the easier it becomes. I can flat out admit it now to anyone (Aside from a small handful I’m purposely hiding it from)
I am neither an ex or a yaoi fan, but I also want him to hurry out of the closet. Possibly while singing Let it Go. Maybe while slapping one of the board of directors of Chick fil a in the face with one of their chicken sandwiches. (Not one of the workers, though. Those guys are just trying to make rent).
I’m a firm believer that personal growth through a defiant stand against everybody that would fuck with you is the best kind of growth.
It’s not about the violence. Like, I don’t want them slapped to hurt them. I imagine the scene as an act of defiance rather than retribution. Straightforward, forthright, and nothing people need to call cops or ambulances over.
Unfortunately, hitting anyone with anything is assault and/or battery, depending on district, and the jerks at Chick-fil-a would have a case. Sorry, Smiling Cat.
If a gay man hit them in the face with one of their own sandwiches over their stance on gays, without causing any actual injury, they wouldn’t risk the press by pursuing it in the courts. Ethan would be a folk hero.
Masturbating while doing so does though. That said, Shortpacked!Ethan once had a boner that lasted for like six weeks, so I’m not willing to discount anything.
What should we start the countdown to Joyce going in search of gay porn at?
(Also, she should talk to Amber about this, maybe? We know Amber reads explicit slashfic, so she might have information relevant to Joyce’s …interests here.)
Is this going to be a comedy of errors where Joyce’s new sensitivity leads her to respectfully help Ethan stay closeted until he’s ready to come out, leading Dorothy to believe that Joyce is continuing with her “pray the gay away” plan?
HoooooYeah. The movie opens with Judas storming in all in a jealous rage because Mary Magdalene’s making time with Jesus, then there’s the betrayal with the kiss, and then Judas, before his suicide, echos Mary Magdalene’s love song to Jesus almost word-for-word.
JUDAS:
I don’t know how to love him
I don’t know why he moves me
He’s a man
He’s just a man
He’s not a King
He’s just the same
As anyone I know
He scares me so
When he’s cold and dead
Will he let me be?
Does he love?
Does he love me too?
Does he care for me?
I’m pretty sure the slashfic subtext was deliberate, too.
The Ho-yay is little more explicit in this Judas slash siren:
Haven’t seen you in quite a while
I was down the hold just passing time
Last time we met was a low-lit room
We were as close together as a bride and groom
We ate the food, we drank the wine
Everybody having a good time
Except you
You were talking about the end of the world
I took the money
I spiked your drink
You miss too much these days if you stop to think
You led me on with those innocent eyes
You know I love the element of surprise
In the garden I was playing the tart
I kissed your lips and broke your heart
You, you were acting like it was
The end of the world
In my dream I was drowning my sorrows
But my sorrows, they learned to swim
Surrounding me, going down on me
Spilling over the brim
Waves of regret and waves of joy
I reached out for the one I tried to destroy
You, you said you’d wait
‘Til the end of the world
— Paul Hewson ( of “The Hype” and “The Passengers” )
I could really never understand the desire or craving for porn, dude-smut or otherwise. As far as I could figure out, sex was never meant to be a spectator sport.
Most people’ve got at least a little voyeur in them (as evidenced by the fact that smut’s driven basically every media advance in the history of ever, from clay sculpting to broadband Internet), and exhibitionism is a pretty common kink, too.
Given the variety of porn out there it’s surprising someone hasn’t done a “Sex Olympics” where teams compete against each other, live on webcam, with judges rating them.
Tim and Hoboturtle, check out “The Groove Tube”. It was a 1974 film consisting of short vignettes and parodies, in the style of “Kentucky Fried Movie”, and included in the cast Chevy Chase and Richard Belzer; and one of the vignettes was a skit called “Sex Olympics”. I’m sure you can find it on-line somewhere or maybe thru Amazon or Netflix.
Damn, you beat me to it, I had almost the exact same post typed up, then I happened to scroll down to see if anybody had replied yet, good thing I did.
‘smut’ is a term religious people use a LOT, to describe media that portrays verboten subjects, like porn. The word ‘smut’ refers to dirt or soot, and is a way of saying something’s ‘dirty’.
fogel: Only when it comes to dealing with Vic, NSW and Qld, I just remember DoA as starting at 15:31 Adelaide time during summer, 14:31 during the periods between the Adelaide and New York’s changing to & from daylight savings and finally 13:31 during winter.
Again Joyce impresses me by doing the right thing – she actively takes steps to stay friends with Ethan and leave the choice to come out to him. They can still hang out, follow each other to class, watch boy smut… NO, BAD THOUGHT.
How long time does it take to go between the boys and girls dorm by the way? Is it just different floors?
I dunno about IU, but almost 20 years ago my dorm at Mizzou was co-ed, and it was basically men’s wing/women’s wing. Walk down the hall and you go from outie land to innie land.
You weren’t supposed to be in a member of the opposite sex’s room without either a chaperone or the door open, and I remember copious Jack Chick tracts “accidentally” left behind on the bus warning Mizzou students that they were all damned to hell because of the mixing of the sexes, but (at least in that dorm) the men and women didn’t have much more than a hallway separating them.
I’ve never been to IU, much less Read Hall, but from what I gather from the Internet and the comic, Read is X-shaped, with four wings (Clark, Landes, Beck, and Curry) connected through a central lobby, and gender-segregated by wing, with ladies in Clark and Landes Wings and guys in Beck and Curry.
The central cast ladies live on the 3rd floor of Clark Wing, while the guys are on the 3rd floor of Beck Wing, just a short stroll away. IIRC, the cafeteria we usually see them in is in Landes Wing.
I cannot believe the level of civility in the comments section…I just…is this for real? Are there actually places on the internet where people are nice?
A friend recently introduced me to these comics, but I’ve been afraid to even look at the comments because the internet.
Yup. Accountability does that sometimes; there’s nothing to gain from being an asshole, and there aren’t enough of us for an asshole to go unnoticed or few enough for them to dominate.
I would rather be the dominate asshole on a small forum than second on YouTube!
*ahem* Forgive me, channeling my inner Caesar for a moment. Everyone is very nice here. I feel that if there could be tea and cookies, there would be tea and cookies.
Plus Willis himself moderates the comments to quickly remove anything really terrible from this space. I don’t know how often he has to use his IP-ban-hammer, but I imagine that it’s something of a deterrent as well.
Our asshole levels vary depending on the subject but Willis puts a stop to anything going too far. Pretty much we’ve been conditioned to stay within the boundries.
It’s always about the moderation. Strong moderation means civility, weak moderation means rudeness. I don’t always like Willis’ moderating decisions (I’m sure he’s banned me and deleted my posts on occassion) but I like that the moderation exists.
Depends, There used to fever pitch of white hot hatred aimed at Danny ( character ) for a couple of years.
I thought it had more than the passing of of misdirected misogyny, which is ironic considering hes male , and many of his detractors werent.
That thankfully seemed to evaporate once the big reveal that he’s BI.
I’m not sure the fandom appreciated that in real life, they would be discriminating against a bi-dude for being for more sensitive; and make it less likely he would feel safe to come out.
Nor that Patriarchy is a system oppressions and privileges and gender-codes policed by both and for both genders.
lately the weird attacks has been on Becky.
Sure, she can be a rude, crude brassy lesbian ; A female walky with more balls and less self-awareness. Sooner or later she will really put her foot in her mouth, But that day has not come.
She has beautifully and gracefully left the closet with an infectious enthusiam its hard not to share.
Willis you have done a wonderfully inspiring story with Becky.
Many of Beckys detractors wanted to shove her back in the closet to “protect joyce’s feelings”.
Thats a real terrible thing to say to a young gay — to place the burden of another’s mental health on them ( due to their own internalized bigotry ) to hide who and what they are. People stay in the closet for decades over that.
IRL Beckys Unbridled parade of rainbows, glitter, Lillith fairs(?) gets to last 6 weeks without negative comments.
Willis , you ought to work a Pride-parade into the story-line
I just came back from a convention in support of alternative lifestyles (including homosexuality). This comic is kind of awesome and hilarious to come home to.
Joyce: come find me on the Internet! We can be such good friends. I’ll help to ease all of your uncomfortable cravings, without making you feel at all dirty or ashamed! Don’t be afraid.
Joyce is already surrounded by people she could talk to about it, Becky would be no different. Less likely in fact since she’d have to relive the entire incident.
True, and Joyce has chosen Ethan, and to a lesser extent Dorothy and Sarah – all excellent choices. But I think it would be very healthy for her and for her relationship with Becky if she told Becky as well.
Joyce has a tendency to keep things under wraps even when they are eating her, and up until four weeks ago Becky was the one person she could share EVERYTHING with. I think she would benefit from reestablishing that trust (I mean – it’s not like Becky has not shared a fundamental, life changing, potentially embarrassing and damaging secret with her or anything).
im guessing by smut they mean porn and joyce looks intrested in it but cant admit becuase you know its kinda frowned upon by her family wich is why she calls it smut
yeah and plus with becky being open about her sexuality might be changing joyces outlook as well btw i misspelt my e mail thats why my gravatar was different
Ethan, stop binging on dude smut like a plebeian. Private Window/Incognito man, it’s self cleaning. Besides, they you don’t have to do a “walk of shame” and delete things individually.
I’ve been reading this comic for far too long to have just now realized that part of Ethan’s love of Transformers stems from the fact that he identifies with robots being in “disguise”.
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Dude Smut. Funny.
How long before Joyce discovers the dude smut subgenre specifically devoted to entertaining women? Better know, of course, as yaoi.
I never got how yaoi was marketed at females. I find nothing more or less attractive about it. Is it supposed to be adorable or something?
Well if you’re into dudes and you happen to like a little romance and plot to go with your porn what’s better than two dudes banging after an angsty backstory? Granted, most of the yaoi genre is filled with crap, but it’s porn, it’s not like it needs to be super tasteful all the time.
You forgot about the yaoi hands. (Oh god the yaoi hands why)
I appreciate you.
TAKE A LOOK AT THESE HANDS
BIG MEATY CLAWS
They look like good strong hands. Don’t they?
THE HAND SPEAKS
THE HAND OF A GOVERNMENT MAN
THEYRR PASSING INBETWEEN US
@SonicBlueRanger: Ow right in the childhood.
Hawt!
the hands are as big as anime eyes but like david always likes to do is to givith and taketh away on a side note some one beat jenaside to first comment today
You kow what they say about guys with big hands.
They can easily jack off a horse.
Wait… I think I fucked that up.
(Nods in a knowing manner)
Big gloves!
Big gloves?
I just think of it as the inverse of dudes thinking lesbians are super hot, geared for the female gaze instead of the male gaze.
Pretty much.
I don’t know about other guys, but I prefer lesbian porn that’s geared to men not because of specific fantasies about attempting to get with lesbians, but just because it’s hotter for me to watch a woman and a second woman than to watch a woman and a man. That way, I don’t get feelings of inadequacy whilst enjoying mah pr0nz. 😛
It is a pretty simple formula to make porn hotter for some people. Remove the person they find unattractive, replace them with someone they’d find attractive.
It… depends on the story. Much like straight porn, there’s various types of yaoi with different perspectives / focus on plot or lack thereof.
Source: An old friend of mine who introduced me to it about ten years ago. I still kinda hate her for that. ;_;
Well the idea is that Yaoi is marketed towards women while Bara is marketed towards men. Yaoi tends to be more romantic and stuff I guess. I think it’s a cultural thing since as a dude I still prefer yaoi, though both are awesome.
Honestly I find both Yaoi and Bara to be meh.
Both seem to have weird ideas about proportions. With yaoi its the hands and head, with bara its the chests.
Dear god how are those chests so damn huge.
Leifeld? *Snicker*
Oooh I know this one! In japanese culture, dominance in women is heavily frowned on. Now, Yaoi usually has one older, dominant boy paired with a younger, passive boy. The idea was that a woman reader could safely put herself in the place of either character, even the dominant one, without causing them to violate cultural norms, allowing them to experience feelings which would make them feel uncomfortable in real life.
So I guess the truth is, it is primarily marketed to Japanese women, for cultural reasons.
Okay, THIS makes the most sense to me, and even then I don’t get why females who are attracted to guys would read about guys liking guys to make themselves feel happy, but hey, there’s tones of people that go for it.
It’s marketed to females because it’s mostly written BY Females. Dudes tend to write more Bara related stories.
I had no idea that ‘bara’ existed. Now I have Googled it. I shall never need to do so again. Thank you, commenters, for expanding my vocabulary.
As Joyce mentioned, though, “This is knowledge I shouldn’t have.”
Removing dude smut off your laptop and deck requires special cleaners and paper towels.
There is Smut of every kind.
One might need a SMUT PEDDLER to manage it all!
(inb4 YOU WEREN’T FIRST: I was distracted by XCOM)
We totally didn’t get worried about you yesterday or anything.
>.>
<.<
But in the course of our not-worried wonderings about your whereabouts, a bunch of us finally realized the true meaning of “Jen Aside”.
…
OH FOR FUCK SAKE HOW DID I MISS THAT ONE
See? I did nothing!
I didn’t even panic… STOP LOOKING AT ME!!!!
EVAC! We need emergency EVAC! NOW, DAMMIT, NOW!!!
*shoots friendly*
Every game mission in Long War ever >_>
Put some damn alien trophies on your rookies if you don’t want them panicking. They gave you 3 pockets at game start for a reason.
But then I can’t put grenades in all those slots, and I’m not sure I want to live on that kind of world.
The best is when a mind-controlled alien gets killed AND THAT MAKES THEN PANIC
whuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
THEM
I’M SO DISTRESSED I’M TYPOING
XCOM is awesome. Surprised you were only distracted for 7 minutes.
Distracted for only eight minutes by Xcom? You are terrifying.
to be fair, someone else was playing ¬_¬ (I’m supposed to be working on something and am not, surprise surprise)
From one Commander to another, I salute you Jen Aside. Show those little green assholes the meaning of that word your name sounds like!
Just don’t confuse a dude smut peddler with a smut peddler dude.
My smut is too strong for you, traveler
But is there some sort of law or rule on the internet somewhere that codifies this idea? Perhaps one in a numbered list of rules?
Just type literally any word or phrase into a search engine to find it.
I just typed “literally any phrase” into GIS, and, with safe search on, got full-frontal naked chick on the eighth screen of results.
You went to the eighth page of Google? I don’t think I’ve ever been past the second, and only then when I’m rea desperate.
Eighth screen, first page. And I don’t run my browser full-screen.
I tried that with safe search both on and off, and didn’t see any nudity. Perhaps Google’s search algorithms have been trained to show you nudity?
I tried in Bing. No naked ladies, but a bunch of cool stuff.
joyce… nuuuu
But Ethan, imagine how much more fun it would be without the shame.
Maybe he needs the shame so he can feel dirty when he does it.
Joyce at least is not being too pushy. just sorta.
And her world expands every day 🙂
And now the knowledge that Dude Smut (my guess is that is the name of the next slipshine, the one with 3 or more dudes) is going to forever hang over Joyce’s innocent little head for the rest of the day.
The Dude Smut websites will notice the traffic coming from Indiana University suddenly skyrocket, and then Ruth will suddenly have to deal with more complaints about permanent markered dongs.
To be fair, Joyce has a limited capacity to imagine what Dude Smut would actually entail. Maybe they tickle each other with drumsticks in her mind?
Whatever she actually imagines, there’s probably a market out there for exactly that.
Ethan, you may have unleashed something dangerous
SEXO LOCO!
SEXO LOCO
woops, double post.
SO LOCO IT CAN’T BE CONTAINED BY ONE POST!
Cue slipshine:
“Joyce Snaps and Sucks a Billion Dicks.”
Joyce Snaps and Downloads a Billion Dicks… To Draw
aka
A Phallady Is Born
The rise of the Anti-Joyce!
http://walkypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Joyce
There’s a whole world of smut out there Joyce. You haven’t even scratched the surface.
… which is just one of the many kinds of smut out there.
Scratching surfaces?
DUDES DOIN’ IT
…ON SURFACES, WHILE SCRATCHING
Kinky.
Joyce, NO!!! Stay away from the internet! You’ll never be the same!! Don’t go to the Lemon Party, forget about eh Sandbox, and DON’T GO TO PEN ISLAND!
Whatever she does, she absolutely cannot go to r/elsanna. Very very very slippery things would ensue…
She might need a cold shower afterwards. A frozen one, if you will.
Especially with all that Anna/Elsa Rule 34 out there. 😀
That would just give her a concussion.
Ice is slippery!
Yeah, there’s no way Joyce could handle all of those dirty, dirty custom pens.
Just thinking about all of those skilled craftsmen handling that large assortment of exotic virgin wood is getting me hot.
Ooh! They’ve also got hand-rubbed lacquers! (Seriously, for a custom pen website that’s had to deal with an unfortunate name for its entire existence, their web designers are terrible at removing innuendo)
And I have missed the joke twice.
Pen Island is a misnomer.
(It’s really a peninsula)
You know what. He’s just not ready. It takes time sometimes for that level of confidence. Took me a year. Though everyone knows in Ethan’s case.
I don’t think I was ready when I came out. It was cause by boyfriend induced trauma (AKA Getting a text message that read like a suicide note and then not hearing from him for hours. I texted him daily after that for awhile) Coming out is scary. That said the more people you tell, the easier it becomes. I can flat out admit it now to anyone (Aside from a small handful I’m purposely hiding it from)
Joyce, embrace the smut, you know you want it.
Now I wonder what kind of smut Joyce would be into. Dexter and Monkey Master smut? It probably exists.
In our universe, I don’t know, but in the dumbiverse it most exist.
Of course it exists. Rule 34, don’t ‘cha know.
I’m calling it right now, that’s the next slipshine.
Just imagine all the places he’ll put that power booster rod…
Bible smut.
Dirty, dirty bible smut.
Ooh, Boaz, take me on the threashing floor! You are the next of kin!
Onan (Mostly) Performs A Sex, a tragical slipshine in three-quarters of an act.
And that’s only Act II.
Correction Ethan, you have a second ex-girlfriend and a whole bunch of yaoi fans who want to hurry you out of the closet.
*sigh* But really dude, take your time. If you’re not comfortable yet, fine.
And you may just have ensured 100% overlap between those two groups.
I am neither an ex or a yaoi fan, but I also want him to hurry out of the closet. Possibly while singing Let it Go. Maybe while slapping one of the board of directors of Chick fil a in the face with one of their chicken sandwiches. (Not one of the workers, though. Those guys are just trying to make rent).
I’m a firm believer that personal growth through a defiant stand against everybody that would fuck with you is the best kind of growth.
Of all the appropriate choices for slapping them with, you picked a sandwich?
Well… perhaps “appropriate” isn’t the vest choice of word…
It’s not about the violence. Like, I don’t want them slapped to hurt them. I imagine the scene as an act of defiance rather than retribution. Straightforward, forthright, and nothing people need to call cops or ambulances over.
Unfortunately, hitting anyone with anything is assault and/or battery, depending on district, and the jerks at Chick-fil-a would have a case. Sorry, Smiling Cat.
Hit them in the face with a stunningly appropriate metaphor.
Should still be safe. 😀
If a gay man hit them in the face with one of their own sandwiches over their stance on gays, without causing any actual injury, they wouldn’t risk the press by pursuing it in the courts. Ethan would be a folk hero.
I’m trying not to be judgmental, but a four-hour binge EVERY NIGHT sounds rather pathological.
It sounds tiring personally. Ethan has SOME stamina.
Looking at smut requires no stamina.
Looking at a computer screen for four hours straight can be murder on the eyeballs.
Masturbating while doing so does though. That said, Shortpacked!Ethan once had a boner that lasted for like six weeks, so I’m not willing to discount anything.
I don’t recall Viagra ever being involved in Shortpacked!
It was because of Batman toys.
http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2025
So, Batman Viagra.
huuum if that lasts over 4/6 hours, one is supposed to see a doc because the zone starts risking necrosis from lack of oxygen
*”A Whole New World* from Aladdin plays softly in the distance*
Complete with a medley of a shirtless Aladdin
The host sites have those nasty Russian spam worms infecting them so deleting the browser history is a very appropriate thing to do. So I am told.
Ethan has just opened a bunch whole new doors for Joyce… and maybe even a back door or two, you know, if she ever discovers yaoi. 😛
“I’m a little ashamed… but I think that’s natural.”
/It’s Always Sunny
Joyce’s reaction was my reaction. I still have not gone looking for the dude smut.
I can’t decide if your gravatar is wholly appropriate or wholly inappropriate for your comment.
It’s in that quantum state where it’s both at the same time.
That’s impossible. Could be undecided, though.
Incognito mode is your friend, Ethan.
Where there’s dude smut, there’s fire…men. Sexy firemen.
Wrong webcomic: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2929
It can be two webcomics! And beyond the sexual binary, too.
And that’s Tengen Toppa!
What should we start the countdown to Joyce going in search of gay porn at?
(Also, she should talk to Amber about this, maybe? We know Amber reads explicit slashfic, so she might have information relevant to Joyce’s …interests here.)
You know Jacob could have been in this strip. He seems like a trustworth guy. He can keep a secret.
Jacob is probably binging some kind of smut while he’s not present.
Dat “i know i shouldn’t know but tell me anyway so i can go all fangirl like over it” face at the end xD
Pandora’s box has been opened. There is no going back from this knowledge.
Her name’s ‘Joyce’. It’s ‘Joyce’s Box’.
Much to Becky’s dismay, ‘Joyce’s Box’ stays firmly shut. ifyouknowwhatimean.jpg
Is this going to be a comedy of errors where Joyce’s new sensitivity leads her to respectfully help Ethan stay closeted until he’s ready to come out, leading Dorothy to believe that Joyce is continuing with her “pray the gay away” plan?
Much Ado About Dumbing?
Come out of the closet, Ethan! Think of Jacob’s appearance numbers!
Also think of Jacob’s appearance. You know you want to.
No, Joyce. Getting on the Dude Smut Train puts you on a one-way trip to Premarital Hanky Panky-ville!
And then a yaoi consuming monster is born
Wow the comments here are very quick. What kind of sorcery do they possess?
Timeliness, fascination, and quantity.
You get used to it. Welcome to the swarm.
Careful Joyce, you’re dangerously close to becoming an adorable Gollum.
Aww, Joyce seems to already have some understanding of Rule 34.
She’s growing up.
So, how long before Joyce finds out there’s Jesus slashfic?
please tell me that isn’t a thing…
Why wouldn’t it be? It’s the internet, we do not fear such things as heresy.
Of course it’s a thing. Judas betrays Jesus with a kiss, and that’s more fuel than slashficcers need right there.
And with that, i hear by renounce my humanity to become a wolf… a boomwolf mind you, but a wolf nonetheless.
Optimus Prime X Jesus short story… https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10656008/1/Honk-for-Jesus
… If you need me, I’ll just be in the corner, crying for the rest of my life.
Jesus Christ Superstar is from 1970, and is soaked in jealous HoYay. I’m sure there are earlier examples.
Jesus hung out with twelve dudes in the desert and then they all washed each other’s feet. It’s RIGHT THERE
HoooooYeah. The movie opens with Judas storming in all in a jealous rage because Mary Magdalene’s making time with Jesus, then there’s the betrayal with the kiss, and then Judas, before his suicide, echos Mary Magdalene’s love song to Jesus almost word-for-word.
JUDAS:
I don’t know how to love him
I don’t know why he moves me
He’s a man
He’s just a man
He’s not a King
He’s just the same
As anyone I know
He scares me so
When he’s cold and dead
Will he let me be?
Does he love?
Does he love me too?
Does he care for me?
I’m pretty sure the slashfic subtext was deliberate, too.
Never a Fan of Superstar.
The Ho-yay is little more explicit in this Judas slash siren:
Haven’t seen you in quite a while
I was down the hold just passing time
Last time we met was a low-lit room
We were as close together as a bride and groom
We ate the food, we drank the wine
Everybody having a good time
Except you
You were talking about the end of the world
I took the money
I spiked your drink
You miss too much these days if you stop to think
You led me on with those innocent eyes
You know I love the element of surprise
In the garden I was playing the tart
I kissed your lips and broke your heart
You, you were acting like it was
The end of the world
In my dream I was drowning my sorrows
But my sorrows, they learned to swim
Surrounding me, going down on me
Spilling over the brim
Waves of regret and waves of joy
I reached out for the one I tried to destroy
You, you said you’d wait
‘Til the end of the world
— Paul Hewson ( of “The Hype” and “The Passengers” )
Like, Seymour’ s in Sinfest?
Just checked, and yes, yes their is.
I could really never understand the desire or craving for porn, dude-smut or otherwise. As far as I could figure out, sex was never meant to be a spectator sport.
It’s basically all about fulfilling fantasies. And sometimes exploring what turns you on or what turns you off.
Most people’ve got at least a little voyeur in them (as evidenced by the fact that smut’s driven basically every media advance in the history of ever, from clay sculpting to broadband Internet), and exhibitionism is a pretty common kink, too.
Wanking to porn is a spectator sport now, I’m not comfortable with the idea of wanking in front of an audience.
Throughout the vast majority of human history the vast majority of people did not have private bedrooms.
Sex has *mostly* been a spectator sport.
I agree, the porn you visualize in your head is much more intense and personal then most porn that people film.
Ha, spectator sport. Like couldn’t you imagine all porn having three judges giving points on how well they did?
Given the variety of porn out there it’s surprising someone hasn’t done a “Sex Olympics” where teams compete against each other, live on webcam, with judges rating them.
I beleive I remember there is some porn where two people wrestle, and the winner ends up topping the lose in the ensuing porn.
I think it was only guys on guys and girls on girls tho.
Tim and Hoboturtle, check out “The Groove Tube”. It was a 1974 film consisting of short vignettes and parodies, in the style of “Kentucky Fried Movie”, and included in the cast Chevy Chase and Richard Belzer; and one of the vignettes was a skit called “Sex Olympics”. I’m sure you can find it on-line somewhere or maybe thru Amazon or Netflix.
Damn, you beat me to it, I had almost the exact same post typed up, then I happened to scroll down to see if anybody had replied yet, good thing I did.
You’ve seen the end of Bananas haven’t you?
I imagine Joyce’s reaction to dude smut would be much like this youtube vid: Korean Girls Are Introduced to Magic Mike — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYRH-nOHUtM
Oh wow, this reaction video is awesome.
The guy did a whole series of “korean girls react to” and “Korean guys react to” The one with the Anaconda video is good, too. 🙂
I am surprised that Joyce knows the term “smut.” My guess is from a traumatic experience in exploring the online Monkey Master fandom or something.
‘smut’ is a term religious people use a LOT, to describe media that portrays verboten subjects, like porn. The word ‘smut’ refers to dirt or soot, and is a way of saying something’s ‘dirty’.
From German schmutz, I believe.
“This is knowledge I should not have.”
I usually find myself saying this about once a week in regards to the Internet.
I forgot that daylight savings was over today…
Uh, wasn’t that a while ago?
About a month ago, New York started their daylight saving, but since I live in South Australia, daylight savings ended today.
Is it confusing dealing with SA’ s 1/2 hour offset? For me, dealing with time zones that are offset by whole hours is challenging enough.
Here’s some more confusing : unlike USA, (most of) Europe switches time the last sunday of March.
fogel: Only when it comes to dealing with Vic, NSW and Qld, I just remember DoA as starting at 15:31 Adelaide time during summer, 14:31 during the periods between the Adelaide and New York’s changing to & from daylight savings and finally 13:31 during winter.
My brain went phzzz at 15:31 :-0
The only thing my wife and I worry about is what time tests start in US Eastern Time and I write those on the calendar.
That’s why we need Zulu Time (= the whole earth is one time zone)!
Joyce, noooooo.
Why is Ethan hiding his mouth in Panel 3 if there’s no one else in the room? LOL
Habit.
Maybe Jacob is in the shared bath?
Or Ethan could be worried that he’ll return from wherever he is any second.
Jacob sharing a bath with other dudes.
SHIPPING INTENSIFIES
wow. I just noticed the poster in Ethan’s door.
I think My ex had the identical one.
( Sadly , He killed himself only 2.5 months before Transformers1 came out.
He loved transformers so much, he got a degree in Electronic Engineering and Robotics ( and designed his own controller board )
He had a very juvenile sense of humor, so Michael Bays version: would have loved it…
Theres a significant chance he’d be alive ,if it came out a few months earlier.
He wanted to build transformers. )
Oh, wow. Sorry to hear that. I know that was a while back, but my prayers are with you for whatever that’s worth.
Thanks.
I probably only the notice the specific poster because of the month.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070919014921/http://www.gammaburst.net/robotics/index.html
So sorry to hear about your loss. Thinking of you in internet land <3
thanks.
I just discovered his dad just died.
Not sure his parents ever forgive me ( for outing him at the funeral ) .
I signed the guestbook with compassionate words, and reminded them I exist.
I guess If I was ever one to shy away from social-awkwardness, I wouldnt have told every one we were lovers ( after I was told not to )
Again Joyce impresses me by doing the right thing – she actively takes steps to stay friends with Ethan and leave the choice to come out to him. They can still hang out, follow each other to class, watch boy smut… NO, BAD THOUGHT.
How long time does it take to go between the boys and girls dorm by the way? Is it just different floors?
I dunno about IU, but almost 20 years ago my dorm at Mizzou was co-ed, and it was basically men’s wing/women’s wing. Walk down the hall and you go from outie land to innie land.
You weren’t supposed to be in a member of the opposite sex’s room without either a chaperone or the door open, and I remember copious Jack Chick tracts “accidentally” left behind on the bus warning Mizzou students that they were all damned to hell because of the mixing of the sexes, but (at least in that dorm) the men and women didn’t have much more than a hallway separating them.
I’ve never been to IU, much less Read Hall, but from what I gather from the Internet and the comic, Read is X-shaped, with four wings (Clark, Landes, Beck, and Curry) connected through a central lobby, and gender-segregated by wing, with ladies in Clark and Landes Wings and guys in Beck and Curry.
The central cast ladies live on the 3rd floor of Clark Wing, while the guys are on the 3rd floor of Beck Wing, just a short stroll away. IIRC, the cafeteria we usually see them in is in Landes Wing.
What, not Curry? Think of all the pun potential!!
Oh. Right.
Not much to say today.
Embrace the dude smut, Joyce! Embrace!
I cannot believe the level of civility in the comments section…I just…is this for real? Are there actually places on the internet where people are nice?
A friend recently introduced me to these comics, but I’ve been afraid to even look at the comments because the internet.
Yup. Accountability does that sometimes; there’s nothing to gain from being an asshole, and there aren’t enough of us for an asshole to go unnoticed or few enough for them to dominate.
I would rather be the dominate asshole on a small forum than second on YouTube!
*ahem* Forgive me, channeling my inner Caesar for a moment. Everyone is very nice here. I feel that if there could be tea and cookies, there would be tea and cookies.
I thought that was Milton, Paradise Lost, anyway.
“I would rather be first here than second in Rome,” was a quote from Caesar referring to some poor little village, according to Plutarch.
Plus Willis himself moderates the comments to quickly remove anything really terrible from this space. I don’t know how often he has to use his IP-ban-hammer, but I imagine that it’s something of a deterrent as well.
PS: if you like writing stories and/or text-based browser games, another nice-people place on the internet is . There are still nice people.
Just don’t be around when the strip is about Becky
Or Roz.
Our asshole levels vary depending on the subject but Willis puts a stop to anything going too far. Pretty much we’ve been conditioned to stay within the boundries.
It’s always about the moderation. Strong moderation means civility, weak moderation means rudeness. I don’t always like Willis’ moderating decisions (I’m sure he’s banned me and deleted my posts on occassion) but I like that the moderation exists.
I’m so glad that’s the impression we make. Come and help us make this place awesome.
Depends, There used to fever pitch of white hot hatred aimed at Danny ( character ) for a couple of years.
I thought it had more than the passing of of misdirected misogyny, which is ironic considering hes male , and many of his detractors werent.
That thankfully seemed to evaporate once the big reveal that he’s BI.
I’m not sure the fandom appreciated that in real life, they would be discriminating against a bi-dude for being for more sensitive; and make it less likely he would feel safe to come out.
Nor that Patriarchy is a system oppressions and privileges and gender-codes policed by both and for both genders.
lately the weird attacks has been on Becky.
Sure, she can be a rude, crude brassy lesbian ; A female walky with more balls and less self-awareness. Sooner or later she will really put her foot in her mouth, But that day has not come.
She has beautifully and gracefully left the closet with an infectious enthusiam its hard not to share.
Willis you have done a wonderfully inspiring story with Becky.
Many of Beckys detractors wanted to shove her back in the closet to “protect joyce’s feelings”.
Thats a real terrible thing to say to a young gay — to place the burden of another’s mental health on them ( due to their own internalized bigotry ) to hide who and what they are. People stay in the closet for decades over that.
IRL Beckys Unbridled parade of rainbows, glitter, Lillith fairs(?) gets to last 6 weeks without negative comments.
Willis , you ought to work a Pride-parade into the story-line
How long can the closet references last? Let’s find out!
As long as Ethan’s in one! (Transparent though it may be.)
… will Joyce turn out to be a hardcore Fujoshi? Only time will tell.
Not any more than QC’s Hannelore is, I’d guess.
Or Ruby from Sticky Dilly Buns.
Joyce, you searched out a peener on the interwebs for visual reference. Don’t tell me you don’t know about dude smut.
She could easily have managed to stick to strictly scientific material, perhaps through clinical terminology…
I chuckle at the thought of her relying on scientific material.
She checked the Wikipedia article.
I vote for the next Slipshine to be Joyce and a computer and dude smut. Wait, that’s not one of the choices?
DOA: Joyce Dials God.
EPIC! +15 internets!
Or is it “Joyce’s dialed up herself to God”?
DOA: Joyce Cums to Jesus
I’m more upset to see a Michael Bay Prime poster on his closet. Surely he’d be more of an IDW TF fan…?
Amber’s the big Transformers fan in this universe, makes sense for Ethan to be more mainstream.
I just came back from a convention in support of alternative lifestyles (including homosexuality). This comic is kind of awesome and hilarious to come home to.
I am all for Ethan being the catalyst of Joyce’s sexual awakening in a much less traumatic way that she thought he’d be. With the dudesmut.
Oh no, Joyce knows about the dude smut! Nothing can stop her now!
Wait until she discovers rule 34
Dexter/Monkey Master slash, here we come!
What’d happen once she discovers rule 63?
Y’know, Joyce probably went to see Ethan because she couldn’t bear to stay alone just after having been reminded of her trauma.
“Dude Smut” has overwritten “gay porn” and “yaoi” in my brain.
Yes Joyce, you should educate yourself on the topic, haha.
I expect that looking at “dude smut” is a lot like looking at a fire hose catalogue.
If you only knew the power of the Dark Side, Joyce.
How did Joyce Google a bunch of penis images to become the Whiteboard DingDong Bandit and NOT find out about dude smut?
Wikipedia.
Joyce: come find me on the Internet! We can be such good friends. I’ll help to ease all of your uncomfortable cravings, without making you feel at all dirty or ashamed! Don’t be afraid.
All my love,
Dude Smut
Slipshine: Joyce does a dude smut binge (On Ethan’s laptop).
I’m sad that Joyce missed this opportunity to talk to Becky about the assault, but I’m glad Ethan has become a way for her to deal with the trauma.
Joyce is already surrounded by people she could talk to about it, Becky would be no different. Less likely in fact since she’d have to relive the entire incident.
True, and Joyce has chosen Ethan, and to a lesser extent Dorothy and Sarah – all excellent choices. But I think it would be very healthy for her and for her relationship with Becky if she told Becky as well.
Joyce has a tendency to keep things under wraps even when they are eating her, and up until four weeks ago Becky was the one person she could share EVERYTHING with. I think she would benefit from reestablishing that trust (I mean – it’s not like Becky has not shared a fundamental, life changing, potentially embarrassing and damaging secret with her or anything).
Different issues, however. For Becky, the secret was liberating, it was like cutting off a chain. For Joyce, it would be like reliving putting it on.
Unfortunately she is already reliving it – two times within the last two days.
But yeah, the parallel is not perfect and I may very well be wrong.
To be fair, she has a few friends who already know about it if she wants to talk about it.
I imagine it’s easier to talk to someone who is already familiar with the situation then with someone who isn’t should she decide to.
im guessing by smut they mean porn and joyce looks intrested in it but cant admit becuase you know its kinda frowned upon by her family wich is why she calls it smut
More to the point, it is frowned upon by herself. The whole “sexual desire” thing is awfully confusing right now.
yeah and plus with becky being open about her sexuality might be changing joyces outlook as well btw i misspelt my e mail thats why my gravatar was different
And then she convinces Ethan to dress as Sherlock for Halloween… For “research”. Or possible to test a “theory” based on “evidence”.
Man, Ethan is so far in the closet metaphorically that I’m surprised he’s not LITERALLY living in the closet in his dorm.
This makes me think of that Family Guy when the guys tell Guagmire about internet porn and he’s never heard of it before.
Are we going to see Joyce in a couple weeks with one arm that is noticeably more muscular than the other one? 😉
How was this comic titled ‘Forthright’ and not ‘Dude Smut’?
Ethan should not have given her such knowledge yet. Joyce might go on a dude smut binge that’ll put Ethan’s 4 hour one to shame.
Ethan, stop binging on dude smut like a plebeian. Private Window/Incognito man, it’s self cleaning. Besides, they you don’t have to do a “walk of shame” and delete things individually.
Joyce is the cutest she has ever been right now.
I’ve been reading this comic for far too long to have just now realized that part of Ethan’s love of Transformers stems from the fact that he identifies with robots being in “disguise”.
my first read-through of this left me in the dislike-zone for ethan. re-reading this, he’s honestly pretty ok
same ethan, same, though im not ashamed of the gay part but ashamed of the cycle of so much porn