I don’t think he recognized her. Amber needs to walk in and see him sitting next to Sal and flip out, to his great confusion.
Also, I’m only 60% sure your wording (‘going down’) was intentional.
I don’t Ethan Panel 5 is recognizing her, I’d say he’s just as surprised as everyone else at how she lost her virginity through apples To Apples somehow…
…Strip Apples To Apples, Sal’s a heavy better with bad/good luck that day?
Um. That’s actually a thing in some circles, you know. And no, Joyce very definitely has not had that done to her or she wouldn’t have had to google images when she was sketching dingdongs a while back.
Am I the only one here that has talkative friends who worked sex industry jobs? It’s a reference to being on the receiving end of a messy facial that results in getting semen in your eyebrows.
OH OK. Now it makes sense. I thought maybe the eyebrows were the active part? Which was confusing.
And no, you’re not! I used to spend weekends teaching bratty rich kids in posh Kensington houses, then travelling out the very end of the tube line to stay with a house of trans sex workers. Bit of cultural whiplash there…
Mine are a straight married couple that did porn flicks in the late 70s, a good couple of decades before I met them. Listening to their work stories from back in the day has been enlightening, albeit often unpleasant. I’ve made a point of avoiding their films (some things I just do not need to see) although they’ve shown off some great G-rated photos of him with the most stereotypical porn mustache ever.
Not in my case. Whenever I meet a pretty girl and strip down in front of her in hopes that sex will ensue, she sprays me with mace and runs away. Am I doing something wrong?
Look, you kids don’t know how good you got it. Back in the day, we had to make APPLES TO APPLES say horrible things. We didn’t have your fancy Cards Against Humanity version. It took IMAGINATION to make it dirty and awful. AND WE DID IT, BY GUM.
Back in my day, we didn’t have those fancy Apples to Apples either. We just yelled things at each other until somebody removed their clothes in anger and frustration.
There’s been at least one “adult” version of Monopoly using famous strip clubs as the properties. I’d expect that just owning a copy of the damn thing would increase your odds of staying a virgin for life.
My husband and I used to play strip Trivial Pursuit. I usually won that game, so I started losing it on purpose fairly often.
Also, it was super fun (/sarcasm) when my mother-in-law went snooping in our room and found in the bottom drawer of the nightstand condoms, lube (back then I worked a lot of health fairs for my job, so I ended up with A LOT of free condoms and flavored lubes. I had far more than any 1 couple could use.), some porn DVDs, a small vibrator, handcuffs, maybe a nudie mag and… Trivial Pursuit.
If I hada mother in law who snooped I’d purposely leave super dirty things around just to shock her. Like SUPER dirty shit, shit that wouldn’t even make sense.
One time when I knew she was coming over, I may have tied ropes to my head and foot board and left a butt plug on the pillow.
Thankfully, before we were married my husband took away her key to our house and she’s now forbidden from going upstairs in our home. Though, after the ropes and butt plug, I’m not sure she’d want to anymore. I can only imagine what she told the priest when she went to confession that week. >:)
I was thinking that if she starts snooping again, I should leave out one of those giant double ended dildos. I’d have to buy one first, of course, but it’d be worth it.
Or better yet, completely innocuous shit alongside the super dirty shit. Trying to figure out how a Rubik’s Cube factored into your sex life would bother her for days.
??? The game doesn’t allow you to make any decisions whatsoever, except the obvious one of “let’s play something else.” Zero skill involved unless someone’s cheating. Unless you have color blindness issues, it’s impossible to be good or bad at it.
Just did after reading Taigan’s comment, now I know how it’s played I can see how it could happen. Site has hairy & smarmy? Everyone says something adult-orientated. “The word is hairy” “Yeah, like my cooter” “Ew, you don’t shave? I do” “I trim…”
…Or do I just have a dirty processor like Daniel the Human says?
It’s too late to archive-dive for me, but at the least it was one her parents sent her to to lock her up after she committed a few felonies. Single-sex seems likely from that.
Willis confirmed that her boarding school was all girls on his tumblr account after he was asked. He also explained how she developed the habit of using windows as doors.
“Her boarding school was girls only, but boys being outside the school was a huge part of her impetus to learn how to escape out a several-story window.”
Yeah, I was just about to say: I am curious and want to know the story behind this. A Slipshine would take care of that… although Sal’s age when she lost said virginity might make it impossible to post there.
Still, I have a curious mind and wish to know the sequence of events that led from point Apples to point Virginity.
It’s not that clearcut, actually. The Supreme Court said drawn child porn wasn’t illegal porn, Congress tried to pack it under obscenity laws, the First Amendment might have something to say about that, so it comes down to a lottery of your local prosecutor and judges. Which is a good pragmatic reason for a commercial site to steer clear of it.
Sal’s basically the cool gamer chick, isn’t she? Except in this cases the guys who would be fawning over her and asking her to ‘share pics’ are now… Joyce.
Billie leaves or at least steps out for a bit, bumps into Amber, Amber asks after Danny, Billie says “he’s in the party sitting with his girlfriend”, Amber is confused, looks in, sees him sitting next to Sal, and totally loses her shit.
Possible. The tutoring thing has Billie confused about that as well. And hey, get a drink or two in Sal and her decision making goes straight to hell. Imagine Drunk Sal deciding that if useless tutor Jason got sexy times, the guy who actually helped her grades deserves better. There’s an even worse train wreck for you.
I have never felt as validated as I did on the day I learned Vin Diesel was an avid D&D player and based Riddick off of one of his characters. Just goes to show you, D&D can almost always change your life for the better!
Chick would have the last laugh, though, when he produces a poorly-drawn and execrably-written comic denouncing the martial arts as Satan’s lure for the unwary.
Unfortunaltly after being defeated, Jack Chick will start floating of the ground, will sprout tentacles and his hands will morph into claws while he grows fangs. The true battle will then begin.
But Vin Diesel is already the Vin Diesel of nerds.
He has his D&D character’s name as a tattoo! He taught Dame Judi Dench to play D&D when they did a Riddick film together! He founded Tigon Studios to make better movie tie-in video games!
Wonderful mental image of Vin starring in an “Edition Wars” movie where he’s the prophesized savior who unites the fans of all the different editions. Even those Pathfinder heretics. 🙂
The bad guys can be a conspiracy of concerned parents, religious fanatics, and embittered ex-gamers bent on destroying roleplaying forever, led by cyborg Jack Chick.
I’m impressed, didn’t think Sarah’s shame-blitz in yesterday’s strip would actually get Sal to the party. Guess Miss Walkerton’s not quite as disinterested in the rest of the dorm as she’s seemed to be.
Also I enjoy the symbolism of Sal sitting down in the spot that was being kept free for Amber. What if Amber comes in and sees Sal sitting there? Next to Ethan, of all people, who was there during the robbery trauma. Drama potential high!
Holy crap, you’re right. He’s dating Amber, has feelings for Ethan, and is tutoring Sal. Amber is dating Danny, used to date Ethan, was assaulted by Sal. Sal has no clue who anyone but Danny is. This is a strange love/hate quadrangle.
Ethan was somewhat less traumatized by the event than Amber was, probably largely because for Ethan, it didn’t come atop years and years of vicious psychological abuse from Amber’s monster of a male parent. So he may not remember because he didn’t bother dwelling on what she looked like, or he may have recognized her and assumed that if Joyce is cool with her, he should give her a shot.
That’s boring though, so I’m hoping for screaming realizations later. From both of them.
You also bounce back better from traumatic events when you have a good support network, and maybe Ethan’s parents were actually supportive before he came out of the closet.
Because her hair is straight? I’m pretty sure she wasn’t straightening her hair at the time of the attempted robbery. She presumably didn’t talk with her current southern drawl at the time either. And as comic books have taught me even the smallest of changes in looks and behaviour, like wearing a tiny domino mask, can serve as an effective disguise.
She’s grown up and filled out quite a bit from those days too. I wouldn’t have recognized the two character designs as being the same person if I didn’t know the story.
He knows that the girl that robbed the store and held the knife to his neck lives on Amber’s floor. It is a little surprising that Amber recognized her immediately despite the fact that she looks different and Ethan hasn’t. It is possible that he’ll remember her in tomorrow’s strip.
Indeed, her hair was curly at the time. Not only that, but she’s carrying herself in a pretty different manner right now: mellow and friendly. (I’m told it’s possible to foil recognition by just changing your posture. Conversely, people have recognized me through a Halloween costume by my lazy slouched walk.)
Even if Ethan DOES recognize Sal, he is himself mellow enough to accept that those days are behind her. He even told Amazi-girl as much.
On the next page after the link, Danny sees Amber freaking out & running off, tho there is a chance he didn’t put 2 & 2 together & get that Amber was running from Sal. Plus does he know about the robbery?
To be fair, it’s been what? Five-ish years? And then a haircut.
Plus, sheer implausibility. In a universe without narrative causality, what are the odds that Ethan’s teenage hostage taker would be sitting next to him at a college party years later?
I guess the convenience store robbery was a defining moment for Amber and Sal, but not for Ethan.
Sal’s straightened hair, completion of puberty, and her voice (accent).
Plus Ethan was probably paying more attention to Amber than to Sal at the time. It may have been kind of a blur for him.
Five years (a person can change quite a bit from age 13 to 18), and Sal currently has the curls murdered out of her hair. Amber has told him that his hostage taker lives in the building, but Ethan hasn’t appeared to recognize her. (From what we can tell at least). Though some in the comments have associated his face in the last panel with a look of recognition. I don’t quite see it though. I think it’s just being caught off guard by Sal’s statement in the last panel.
It’s been five years, her hair and attitude are much different and he wasn’t exactly in a position to look at her after he was taken hostage. When you’re held at knifepoint like he was you tend to face outwards.
And next to Amber’s boyfriend to boot. So much train wreck potential. Now we just need her to get drunk. Shame Billie doesn’t look like she’ll be pouring Sal a drink anytime soon. Maybe Walky will share? 🙂
I’m thinking this too. Originally I was thinking Amber was going to walk in to see Danny and Ethan kissing which will cause a red flashback of when Ethan revealed he was gay to Amber on Prom night. Just like when Amber’s asshole of a dad attempted to take Danny as a hostage. Now that this happened, I’m thinking “Oh crap.”
Does the bible actually mention what type of fruit the forbidden fruit was? I thought apples were just something that Renaissance artists decided to depict it as.
Not a bit, and there’s considerable debate on the subject. Europe likes it to be an apple, but that may be due to a translation error. Figs, pears, and pomegranates are also popular candidates, and there are plenty of others.
But for purposes of webcomic comment jokes, apples will do.
I don’t think Ethan remembers her, and I don’t think Amber has gotten a chance to point her out to him (though I think she did tell him she was at the school all Batman to Commissioner Gordon-like).
The clothes would be tricky part, probably…i can shave my face but the rest of me is a big no-no…and my mother is way smaller than me so i can’t ask her.
Hmmm, maybe i should keep some ladies clothing for situations like that.
Okay but realtalk, in college my friends and I played Stripples to Nipples (Strip Apples to Apples) pretty much every Friday night for a year. It’s pretty simple–if you win a round, you get to take off an article of clothing! Very highly recommended. And yes, Stripping Against Humanity is also excellent.
It sure is. And once you’re all naked? Then you play REVERSE Stripples to Nipples! When you win a point, you can take one of the articles of clothing that the current judge came in with. The goal is to assemble the most ridiculous outfit that you can out of other folks’ clothes. It’s wonderful.
Yeah, my friends and I never understood that as a win condition. We don’t get embarrassed about being naked, we get excited about it! Being naked is GREAT, the game is just a funny way to make the process of getting naked even sillier than usual.
Yeah, but…Being in it for the eye candy means that getting the -other- people naked is the objective, but if winning is the objective, than that’s only gonna get -you- naked. In any game, there’s always more losers than winners anyway, which means if the losers strip, you get more people naked faster anyway, right?
You know how CAH is like a super-offensive version of AtA? Well, when I first heard about CAH, I was like “But you can make dirty jokes with AtA. Why not just do that?” I didn’t understand that CAH is MUCH, MUCH…dirtier.
But it seems Sal found a way to make AtA good and dirty. I respect that!
So, is it possible that Sal will turn out to have been the worst person to invite to this party? Huge amount of drama disaster potential in Miss Walkerton just waiting to happen.
Tutors are considerably more effective when their aim is to help you learn, and not to get in your pants. I’ve been in a similar situation (I was Danny) where the TA was more interested in sex, and somehow wasn’t a very effective tutor.
Although to be fair to Jason, he made an honest (albeit really ineffective) attempt to help Sal with math right up until she jumped him. The guy’s got lousy self control and bad ethics, but he didn’t start out as a lecher. Marginally less awful than Penny.
My group was so used to making Apples to Apples dirty that the idea of playing it with our kids was disturbing. Cards Against Humanity just makes it easier to be gross.
For …reasons… “Rubber Gloves” is now an automatic trump card whenever our circle of friends plays A2A. Filth is in the mind of the beholder, as a wise man once said.
Sal is not the queen of the nerds imo. Danny actually taught her to play his DHS. She got good fast of course, she’s Sal.
She also doesn’t give a damn about who thinks what is cool or not. Everyone is playing AtoA, okay, she will also. If someone thinks she’s lame, go tell her about it. She has a very chilly “and…” stare.
Joyce, you love Sal because she is so cool, and still expect her to have your ideals. Great eyebrows.
I kind of want to feel pleased that Sal took Sarah’s words to heart and decided not to spend her evening just waiting around for Marcie. Marcie has made it plain that as much as she likes Sal, she doesn’t want Sal to be her entire social circle, and it’s healthy for Sal to follow suit.
…but the impending explosion is likely to put Sal off social occasions for life, so there’s that.
I have a word filter that automatically replaces the names of the major American political parties with the transformers factions. It took me a while to figure out your comment.
Oh hell, can I get that word filter for my computer? And can I change the default words? I want to send resend the Fox news articles my very obsessed Brother-in-law keeps sending me.
Join me and I’ll replace your useless political parties with my iron fist. (Note, my fist is not really made of iron. It’s just an old Cybertronion expression.)
It’s kind of interesting that Sal, who’s been victimized by her parent’s ingrained racism, is pretty casual about referring to Joyce as “insanely white” and to Danny as “wonderbread.” It’s pretty interesting how she equates their dorky fangirling or overall plainness by how white they are.
I’m not trying to compare her reactions to Joyce or Danny to that of her parents, because what the Walktertons have done has been genuinely harmful to Sal all her life, while what she’s said to them is basically just mildly rude at worst.
Wait, do we actually KNOW that Mom and Dad Walkerton have a racial bias against Sal? I thought that was just in Sal’s head? I guess her dad did say that her hair was “so pretty when it’s long and straight,” but…but it IS so pretty when it’s long and straight, so I didn’t really see that as evidence of a racial bias.
Oh gross noooo…adults boning kids makes me mad. But it does happen…I think that this happened when she snuck out of her dorm, or snuck someone in the dorm. (in boarding school, just to clarify)
I agree it’s vile, but don’t Jason/Sal and Penny/Mike bother you nearly as much? There’s less of a pedo/exploitive caregiver vibe there, but they’re still way older than a freshman and what they’re doing is thoroughly unethical even if the kids are old enough to give informed consent. There’s quite a bit of power disparity even with a TA, after all.
More likely you’re right and Sal just broke curfew with some townies at some point, though.
Heehee Penny/Mike…I believe she slept with Joe. But while I do agree that there is a power imbalance, and that it’s completely unethical, it is still two consenting adults. And I have less of a problem with that. I don’t like teachers boning students that they have power over. Or anyone having sex with people they have power over, for that matter. (Billie/Ruth) But having sex with kids bothers me way more. WAAAAY more.
It’s funny – if Sal had come expecting help (which she did), and Jason chose to jump her instead (it was actually the other way around), I’d be bothered a lot more. Should Jason have refused? Of course – it comes with the job.
As for Penny and Joe, well, it’s Joe. Need I say more?
Point is, you’re right about the power disparity, but with a college student and a TA, there are plenty of cases where that was irrelevant. Doesn’t make those cases okay – the student may pressure the TA for better grades, or the TA may ruin the student if a messy breakup occurs. It’s just… less wrong than a situation where power is leveraged for sex.
If you mean discussing your sex life in front of a sibling, that seems normal enough to me. Not like she’s going into graphic detail, and she’s obviously comfortable about the subject. Why would it be weird talking about it in Walky’s presence but not to a room full of near-strangers?
Agreed. Me and my brother have discussed this sort of stuff. Not in extreme detail, but at this level, sure. If you’re actually close to your sibling its not that weird.
Depends on your closeness to your sibling. My sister and I talk about sex toys and general sex all the time. It’s only awkward if you make it awkward. Then again, I’m very open about my sexual experiences, so it’s rare that I feel odd about opening up. It does happen, but usually not.
So I guess this confirms that Ethan doesn’t recognize Sal. He probably didn’t get a good look at her face during the whole event, and afterwards was more concerned with Amber. He does know that the girl who threatened to stab him is at the college, but unlike Amber he hasn’t been obsessing over that night for the past five years.
Honestly, I doubt he’s going make an issue of it when he does find out, unless he feels like he has to for Amber’s sake. It was years ago, he didn’t get a scratch in the incident, Sal served her time for the crimes and got a scar to boot, and he’s not the vindictive or obsessive type. If he doesn’t twig to who she is too early, they might even wind up friends.
Which could really make things uncomfortable for Amber, but she needs to work past the Sal hate eventually. Ethan and Danny might be able to help with that if they’ve both had positive experiences with Sal.
I can sort of see that happen. Ethan I feel doesn’t really put much thought into what happened because he’s more concerned with Amber’s safety, and he’s largely over it because it was a long time ago and also because he puts Amber before his own feelings. I doubt he’ll ever become bros with Sal, what with the whole hostage taking at knifepoint, but his main concern is how Amber is reacting to Sal’s presence, which is why when Amber brought up that she was at the college, Ethan was more worried that Amber was climbing through windows and speaking in third person, and he even described Sal as “some girl” in comparison to Amber’s “evil fuck of a father.”
Aw man, now Joyce is gonna have to choose between her love for Sal and her hatred of pre-marital hanky-panky. One the one hand there’s God, but on the other there is a luxurious chocolate river of hair and a motorcycle.
Oh, Billie, we get it: when you were a secondary student you did the stupidest, most cringeworthy school-related activity of all time and you think it makes you special. Petty, self-absorbed and indicative of how amazingly little you know of the world.
On the other hand, I’M the one who’s telling a comic strip character to get a life.
Lot of people hate it like poison, and ye gods, that ending. Not that he doesn’t deserve worse, but the girls’ fate makes Romeo & Juliet look cheery by comparison.
Still, if you want an alternate awful, how’s about Kiss X Sis? Incest ecchi bad enough?
My friends and I used to get drunk and randomly choose manga off of one of the many manga sites. We’d then spin a bottle and have to read at least 5 chapters before describing it in an abriged (i.e. drunk) fashion.
I got Kissxsiss. I felt my eyes burning in disgust by the 2nd chapter.
Have barely heard of it, so can’t say. Incest has a fine pedigree (…) going back to at least Victorian erotica; this sounds like something that’d be bad for gen use but hot for many people.
People tell me DBZ consists of many episodes of people yelling at each other, with multiple episodes per powerup. That sounds pretty dreadful, but I have trouble believing them.
OTOH, it does a fantastic job of trolling Haruhi fans, and sitting through all eight episodes really gives you an appreciation of the hell of tedium poor Yuki lived through. Makes her actions in Disappearance more believable.
With DBZ, I think I’ll stick to Team Four Star’s version. The description you passed along is only a minor exaggeration of the original.
This will be Billie’s biggest issue to over come in her life. I realized that learning to stop hating on stuff for no reason is one of the biggest things you can do to grow the fuck up.
Other music genre’s are not that bad. No one genre of entertainment is truly superior to all others. And it’s OK to stop trying to look cool for the sake of a little harmless fun. I went to plenty of college parties, and they were great, but some of my best night were playing video games or thing similar to A2A with a big group of people.
It’s honestly sad when people can’t figure out that coolness doesn’t actually matter, and in your pursuit of not being a geek, you miss out on a lot of fun.
Uh, sorry to nitpick, but red apples are the nouns and green apples are the adjectives. You did put the right parts of speech in the right places though.
Wow! Billie isn’t a happy bunny-rabbit with this turn of events, is she? Is she jealous of Sal? Or is she just such a bitter spirit that the thought of anyone having fun just makes her fume?
As for Joyce? Oh, those are stars in her eyes! I still can’t get my head around the fact that she’s somehow imprinted on Sal who is, let’s face it, as close to her diametric opposite as it is possible to get! Yet, somehow, the idea of a game of A2A turning into a first sexual experience entrances her!
Now, we merely await the response when Amber sees Sal sitting next to her boyfriend and the man she once held hostage. Remembering, of course, that Sal is, after Amber’s father, the most traumatic boogey-man in her fractured psyche. Can you say ‘interesting times’?
Pretty sure Billie is upset that the coolest, sexiest girl she knows just waltzed in and basically made Apples to Apples sound incredibly awesome. Billie did just insult the game. Not only does Sal want to play it, she used to play it ALL THE TIME, AND she got laid because of it.
Poor Billie. She’s so resentful toward Sal because (as far as she knows*) she’s not afraid of doing things for fear of looking uncool, while Billie tries to maintain an air of dignity based on what society has taught her, and in the end misses out on friendship and fun. Billie is kinda like DoA’s Squidward (How’s that for a disturbing analogy?).
*To be fair, Billie isn’t aware that Sal does hide her “extracurricular math activities”, because she doesn’t want people to know she’s bad at math, that she cares about her grades, and that she’s having an illicit relationship with a snobby, bowtie-wearing nerd. So even Sal cares about her reputation.
Those are confirmed. If we’re counting everyone on the cast page, Becky is probably a virgin (seemed like she and her partner got caught early) and Carla’s an ace by Word of God so she’s likely one as well. I don’t think Sarah is definitely in either camp by canon unless you count Little Jacob, although she sure doesn’t act like a stereotypical virgin. Mike also isn’t confirmed as either, which is pretty funny considering his Walkyverse antics.
Interesting. I would have put Becky in the ‘not a virgin’ category, as she seems quite converted by her experience, so I’m assumed it was a fulfilling one. (I’m also not sure if ‘virginity’ means anything to lesbians, or what it means.) As for Carla being an ace doesn’t mean you’ve never had sex before – I’d think you’d want to try sex at least once before deciding that it isn’t important.
It’s not necessarily that there’s anything wrong with playing the field a bit before you find an answer, but it’s pretty insulting to say that you don’t *really* know until you’ve tried.
At the risk of getting up my own ass, I know I’m bisexual, but I haven’t been with another guy before and maybe never will, and that’s fine, but honestly sometimes I tell myself that I don’t count as a bi dude because, hey, I don’t “really know” right?
Just to be clear, I want to state that I don’t think you or Deanatay were even remotely seriously trying to come to any point like that.
Not sure how to respond to that. Labels can be kind of limiting, but I’d say who you’re attracted to is relevant whether you act on those attractions or not. Sexual behavior is discrete from sexual identity, after all. What you call yourself is ultimately up to you, and “just myself” is as valid a choice as “bi” is.
And now I sound like Ashley over on EGS.
Anyway, my reasoning behind saying that Carla was “likely” a virgin (rather than definitely) was based on the fact that asexuals sometimes choose to have sex even when they really aren’t interested, not because they necessarily need to experiment to know they aren’t.
I get that, but I was trying to dissuade the argument Deanatay was making above about wanting to try it once before she dismisses it.
That is a perfectly valid and healthy thing for ace people to do, and it is likewise perfectly valid and healthy to say “Nah, not interested.” from the word go, just like how I should be able to say “I’m bi” without second guessing myself over it because I haven’t touched a wiener.
18 is the typical age of consent, therefore 16 and 17 is underage. On the internet, any people shown in pornographic form that are under the age of 18 are considered child pornography.
18 isn’t the typical AoC…what it is is the typical age to appear in porn. Drawings aren’t settled law in the US, but they are in some other places, and even in the US, you’re liable to be hit with Obscenity, even if not Child Porn, charges.
True. I suppose I just got so used to 18 being the age of consent in my state, that I forgot that it’s often younger elsewhere. I did do some research, and yes, it appears as though comic child pornography is legal because it “isn’t hurting any real children.” It is therefore up to the artist if they wish to draw it. I’m with Willis though on his stance on drawing under 18 porn. Maybe it’s just because of the laws I’m used to, I dunno.
The age of consent in my state is 16 (and I think someone would have to be very uptight about sex indeed to think that was too low). However, depictions of people (even illustrations) who are under the age of adulthood (18) is a different matter (though I don’t understand why I shouldn’t be allowed to publish a drawing of a naked person I’m entitled to have consensual sex with).
Willis is in the US, which has a global reputation for being full of nitwits who are hysterical about teenagers having sex. So he’s certainly being sensible by avoiding such depictions of under-18s.
I don’t know whose face is more entertaining in that last panel, Joyce’s or Billie who’s just been out-cooled.
This party is such an explosion waiting to go off. And yet it’s almost certain Sal will be gone before Amber gets there, as Damn You Willus teases us.
Tho, there’s a long shot that I’m wrong and the way to Danny/Ethan is opened up by Amber/Amazigirl breaking up with him because of Sal. And then of course after the Slipshine she discovers her mistake and wants to make up.
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Ethan and Sal, something’s going down. At least when Amber shows up we know something will.
I think Ethan recognized her in the final panel, look at his expression. Stuff could go down very quickly.
I don’t think he recognized her. Amber needs to walk in and see him sitting next to Sal and flip out, to his great confusion.
Also, I’m only 60% sure your wording (‘going down’) was intentional.
*yells ‘Timber!’, just in case*
Timber? Naa
Scream “fire in the hole!”
I don’t Ethan Panel 5 is recognizing her, I’d say he’s just as surprised as everyone else at how she lost her virginity through apples To Apples somehow…
…Strip Apples To Apples, Sal’s a heavy better with bad/good luck that day?
(she always plays “Chains” and “Whips”)
Did Joyce just lose hers?
She lost her eyebrows virginity long ago.
Um. That’s actually a thing in some circles, you know. And no, Joyce very definitely has not had that done to her or she wouldn’t have had to google images when she was sketching dingdongs a while back.
Eyebrows virginity? What?… How does that work? I feel like I’ve missed out on something.
We’ll explain it to you when you’re older.
I think Sal just broke Joyce’s brain with that comment… xD
That face….
I think we’ll be fine without an explanation but thanks for the offer
So have I, and honestly? I’m very okay with that.
Am I the only one here that has talkative friends who worked sex industry jobs? It’s a reference to being on the receiving end of a messy facial that results in getting semen in your eyebrows.
OH OK. Now it makes sense. I thought maybe the eyebrows were the active part? Which was confusing.
And no, you’re not! I used to spend weekends teaching bratty rich kids in posh Kensington houses, then travelling out the very end of the tube line to stay with a house of trans sex workers. Bit of cultural whiplash there…
To be fair, there’s some amusing animated material where the eyebrows ARE the active part.
You should write a sitcom based on that. It’d sell.
Mine are a straight married couple that did porn flicks in the late 70s, a good couple of decades before I met them. Listening to their work stories from back in the day has been enlightening, albeit often unpleasant. I’ve made a point of avoiding their films (some things I just do not need to see) although they’ve shown off some great G-rated photos of him with the most stereotypical porn mustache ever.
Did you ever give in to the desire to tell those kids about life at home? It would be fun to watch them wrap their brains around that.
Loss of eyebrow virginity? I thought the proper technical term was “bukkake”.
No, but I suspect she’s re-evaluating the game for sin potential.
Now how could someone possibly associate apples with sin?
Yes, that would just be crazy.
Apples to Apples, Dust to Dust
https://twitter.com/LokiAthena/status/605590654920425472?s=03
Joyce may blush a whole lot tonight.
That FAAACE!
FAAAAAAAAAACE
AAAAaaaaah the face!!!
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!
STOP THE FACES
:o
Everybody needs to have about 1 face less, for Dina’s sake!
NOT IN THE FAAAACE
Sal lost her virginity during a game of…Apples to Apples?
Huh. Having played that game many times, I honestly didn’t see that coming.
Sal saw it coming, though. *rimshot*
Or felt it at least. Sticky situation
If you can play strip poker, I suppose you can play strip ATA, right?
As I understand it, the judge picks the best card for +1 point and worst card for -1 clothing (or +1 drink for Drunk ATA).
Nudity =/= sex.
But it’s been known to help.
Not in my case. Whenever I meet a pretty girl and strip down in front of her in hopes that sex will ensue, she sprays me with mace and runs away. Am I doing something wrong?
Yes.
If you want your face to be a fluorescent orange, then no. Otherwise, yes.
I get that same problem. Daniel the Human just laughs at me as the cops chase me, doesn’t help me at all…
No, Great Faz chooses to believe that they are simply not yet able to comprehend the beauty that is Faz
Look, you kids don’t know how good you got it. Back in the day, we had to make APPLES TO APPLES say horrible things. We didn’t have your fancy Cards Against Humanity version. It took IMAGINATION to make it dirty and awful. AND WE DID IT, BY GUM.
And we were THANKFUL
Well back in *my* day we had to….
…Wait, that was my day. Never mind. Carry on.
Back in my day, we didn’t have those fancy Apples to Apples either. We just yelled things at each other until somebody removed their clothes in anger and frustration.
Huh. I had no idea my dad read Dumbing of Age.
In my opinion that’s why Apples to Apples is the better game. It takes creativity and a bent mind to be fun. Cards Against Humanity is just lazy.
Unless you’re DOIN IT RONG, and then CAH gets to be so wrong everyone at the table is like, “…well, shit. .____.”
Makes more sense to get turned on during Apples to Apples than anything to do with Jason.
BAM
Talk about bringing apples for the teacher.
(You know, because Sal banged a teacher?)
Apples to Apples gets you all the gals.
Why you gotta leave Ethan out of the fun?
Oh my god can you imagine? He’d be too shy to do anything! At least at this point in the comic.
But I think pretty much everything gets Ethan all the guys and gals. (though he doesn’t want the chicks)
He does seem to suffer from an embarrassment of riches in that regard.
That’s very impressive. That’s like losing your virginity in a rousing round of GO FISH. Or Scrabble.
“Do you have any…reasontonotsleepwithme?”
“Uh, go fish?”
“HA!”
You’d have more luck with “Go Leafs” 🙂
Well, the Leafs DO suck, but I’m pretty sure that’s not what anyone meant…
The only way Scrabble can lead to virginity loss is if it’s hate sex. Which is probably also how Apples to Apples led to Sal losing her virginity.
What, you’ve never been turned on by a 120-point Triple Word combo?
I can see the 120 point triple word combo leading to hate sex.
Promontory is not a real word!
Yes it is!
Hate snogging commences.
It’s your own fault for leaving pro open. Or maybe tory.
I wonder how much hate sex Monopoly has caused over the years.
“I’m completely bored with this incredibly tedious game. Let’s go have sex instead.”
There’s been at least one “adult” version of Monopoly using famous strip clubs as the properties. I’d expect that just owning a copy of the damn thing would increase your odds of staying a virgin for life.
“Capitalism is dull and brutal. Let’s fuck.”
Excerpted from “Proletariat Pickup Lines” by Karl Marx?
Ever heard of strip scrabble?
Yes
Someone’s never watched Thea from Girls With Slingshots play Scrabble.
This. Although I think the usual end result was that everyone got too drunk and passed out.
That’s how it happened with me – I had zinc on a double-word, and xenon on a triple
Hate sex is actually worth the effort, even when you’re ace like me.
I think we all have a story like that, don’t we?
Mine, naturally, was Candyland.
(Not really, but side note, I’m legitimately terrible at Candyland, and I still can’t figure out how that’s possible.)
My husband and I used to play strip Trivial Pursuit. I usually won that game, so I started losing it on purpose fairly often.
Also, it was super fun (/sarcasm) when my mother-in-law went snooping in our room and found in the bottom drawer of the nightstand condoms, lube (back then I worked a lot of health fairs for my job, so I ended up with A LOT of free condoms and flavored lubes. I had far more than any 1 couple could use.), some porn DVDs, a small vibrator, handcuffs, maybe a nudie mag and… Trivial Pursuit.
At least it got her to quit snooping for a while.
If I hada mother in law who snooped I’d purposely leave super dirty things around just to shock her. Like SUPER dirty shit, shit that wouldn’t even make sense.
XXX NIGHTSTANDS
One time when I knew she was coming over, I may have tied ropes to my head and foot board and left a butt plug on the pillow.
Thankfully, before we were married my husband took away her key to our house and she’s now forbidden from going upstairs in our home. Though, after the ropes and butt plug, I’m not sure she’d want to anymore. I can only imagine what she told the priest when she went to confession that week. >:)
Should have put two buttplugs.
I was thinking that if she starts snooping again, I should leave out one of those giant double ended dildos. I’d have to buy one first, of course, but it’d be worth it.
This is the best thread
Agreed! *taking notes*
That’s hilarous XD
Or better yet, completely innocuous shit alongside the super dirty shit. Trying to figure out how a Rubik’s Cube factored into your sex life would bother her for days.
I like this idea very, very much.
What an amazing drawer. That had to have been the most confusing moment of her snooping career.
??? The game doesn’t allow you to make any decisions whatsoever, except the obvious one of “let’s play something else.” Zero skill involved unless someone’s cheating. Unless you have color blindness issues, it’s impossible to be good or bad at it.
I’ve played probably 50 times and only avoided last place once. I got second to last that time.
I know, the numbers don’t work out. I know there’s no skill involved, no decision-making, but my results are indisputably terrible.
Bizarre. Is it only Candyland? Have you experimented with dropping buttered toast?
You sure everyone else wasn’t cheating?
How many are googling that game now? *raises hand*
Well, I was about to look for an online emulator like the one for Cards Against Humanity.
Well, I googled it a few days ago, does that count?
Just did after reading Taigan’s comment, now I know how it’s played I can see how it could happen. Site has hairy & smarmy? Everyone says something adult-orientated. “The word is hairy” “Yeah, like my cooter” “Ew, you don’t shave? I do” “I trim…”
…Or do I just have a dirty processor like Daniel the Human says?
Billie’s status: SEETHING WITH RAGE
Billie’s jealous, because she lost hers while playing the Battlestar Galactica boardgame.
Worse yet, she lost it to the Cylon Sympathizer.
Second verse same as the first.
I am trying to think of Apples to Apples-related innuendo, but the only ones I’ve got are really forced.
There’s a lot of jam to have.
Sauce-y!
Winning card for ‘Saucy’ – Emeril Lagasse.
Show me your apple and I’ll show you mine.
Certainly something wound up in cider.
Let’s make some applesauce, honey.
As long as it shakes me to the core.
That’s a pretty seedy comment.
Care for strudel?
Didn’t Sal go to an all-girls Catholic school?
…
Well, that opens up the love triangles for even more drama.
Look, I went to an all-boys Catholic school. There were still girls around.
…sometimes.
……I mean, not often, but–
Look, I like to live in an idealized version of the past, ok?
After they bend over, who can tell the difference?
Oh, trust me, there’s a lot of difference.
Yeah, girl butt has nothing on guy butt.
;3
I meant the extra orifice, but i guess that’s true too.
I don’t recall anyone saying it was all-girls. Not all Catholic schools are single-sex.
It’s too late to archive-dive for me, but at the least it was one her parents sent her to to lock her up after she committed a few felonies. Single-sex seems likely from that.
Did some peeking, and nobody has said it’s all girls.
Willis confirmed that her boarding school was all girls on his tumblr account after he was asked. He also explained how she developed the habit of using windows as doors.
http://dumbingofage.tumblr.com/post/120504739202/was-sals-boarding-school-all-girls-i-guess-what
The Tumblr answer. Which interestingly looks like he’s saying it was with a guy despite not actually saying that at all.
Yes excellent job of explaining without giving anything away, Willis.
If anything, they’d live in separated buildings
Getting past the wardens is half the fun.
Nice to see I’m not the only one whose brain went that way. xD
I didn’t realize co-ed Christian boarding schools was a thing.
There are co-ed Quaker boarding schools – I went to one. But that’s Quakers, who are often way out on the liberal fringe.
words of god on this :
“Her boarding school was girls only, but boys being outside the school was a huge part of her impetus to learn how to escape out a several-story window.”
Hey I just noticed, Dotty actually sat down to play.
She’s probably still typing up research papers, though.
And fending off Drunk Walky.
That would be an interesting and very odd Slipshine.
Think Mattel would be interested in cross promotion?
Sal Performs A Helen Keller?
Um, no Helen, not exactly water…but don’t stop.
And I juuuust cancelled my subscription…
Yeah, I was just about to say: I am curious and want to know the story behind this. A Slipshine would take care of that… although Sal’s age when she lost said virginity might make it impossible to post there.
Still, I have a curious mind and wish to know the sequence of events that led from point Apples to point Virginity.
No slipshines of underaged people. No no no BAD. That is child pornography, and I doubt Willis is okay with that. (yes–any porn of underage people is child pornography. http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/criminal-law/child-pornography-law.htm)
It’s not that clearcut, actually. The Supreme Court said drawn child porn wasn’t illegal porn, Congress tried to pack it under obscenity laws, the First Amendment might have something to say about that, so it comes down to a lottery of your local prosecutor and judges. Which is a good pragmatic reason for a commercial site to steer clear of it.
But I’m sure Sal is about to tell the story in the next comic.
Sal’s basically the cool gamer chick, isn’t she? Except in this cases the guys who would be fawning over her and asking her to ‘share pics’ are now… Joyce.
Sal Walkerton: defying everything that’s uncool to Billie. 😀
She’s also totally Amazi-Girl.
Well yeah, that’s why she’s sitting next to her boyfriend Danny. 🙂
Wait…
Billie leaves or at least steps out for a bit, bumps into Amber, Amber asks after Danny, Billie says “he’s in the party sitting with his girlfriend”, Amber is confused, looks in, sees him sitting next to Sal, and totally loses her shit.
Possible. The tutoring thing has Billie confused about that as well. And hey, get a drink or two in Sal and her decision making goes straight to hell. Imagine Drunk Sal deciding that if useless tutor Jason got sexy times, the guy who actually helped her grades deserves better. There’s an even worse train wreck for you.
Probably just one
Huh, Billie STILL thinks she’s Amazi-girl, doesn’t she?
Note Billie’s severe disapproval at the thought.
Precisamente, my dear Rich-son.
This game is for nerds, nerds like SAL.
Sal is like the Vin Diesel of the nerds.
^this
Pretty sure Vin Diesel is the Vin Diesel of nerds.
I have never felt as validated as I did on the day I learned Vin Diesel was an avid D&D player and based Riddick off of one of his characters. Just goes to show you, D&D can almost always change your life for the better!
Are you trying to say Jack Chick lied to us?
Jack Chick would lie to us.
Jackie Chan, however, would not.
Jack Chick vs Jackie Chan: The fight of the ages…That would last 3 seconds and end with Jack Chick lying broken on the ground.
What’s taking up the other 2.5 seconds that Jackie doesn’t need to win that fight?
That’s Jackie Chan’s stretching time
Yeah, he’s not a young man anymore.
Valid, but I think he’s still up to beating Jack, who’s in his nineties these days.
Jackie pulling the tablecloth that he then uses to beat up Jack out from under a banquet.
Chick would have the last laugh, though, when he produces a poorly-drawn and execrably-written comic denouncing the martial arts as Satan’s lure for the unwary.
…and what would motivate Jackie to smack that sad, strange creature?
I’m sickened, but curious.
Unfortunaltly after being defeated, Jack Chick will start floating of the ground, will sprout tentacles and his hands will morph into claws while he grows fangs. The true battle will then begin.
But Vin Diesel is already the Vin Diesel of nerds.
He has his D&D character’s name as a tattoo! He taught Dame Judi Dench to play D&D when they did a Riddick film together! He founded Tigon Studios to make better movie tie-in video games!
But which edition did he teach?
Wonderful mental image of Vin starring in an “Edition Wars” movie where he’s the prophesized savior who unites the fans of all the different editions. Even those Pathfinder heretics. 🙂
The bad guys can be a conspiracy of concerned parents, religious fanatics, and embittered ex-gamers bent on destroying roleplaying forever, led by cyborg Jack Chick.
So now we know why Faz said “applesauce” before losing consciousness from repeated Mike Warner beatings.
It was his safe word.
Actually, is safe-word is “saltines”
Brilliant Joyce face.
I’m impressed, didn’t think Sarah’s shame-blitz in yesterday’s strip would actually get Sal to the party. Guess Miss Walkerton’s not quite as disinterested in the rest of the dorm as she’s seemed to be.
That or the text she got turned out to be that Marcie was gonna be hanging with Malaya.
Or she heard Apples To Apples through the bathroom door and just couldn’t resist.
Or just needed something to take her mind off things.
Just because Sal likes it doesn’t automatically mean it’s cool…….yes it does.
Suddenly, this game seems a lot more interesting. Also, Joyce’s face last panel.
Also I enjoy the symbolism of Sal sitting down in the spot that was being kept free for Amber. What if Amber comes in and sees Sal sitting there? Next to Ethan, of all people, who was there during the robbery trauma. Drama potential high!
it only just hit me how tangled up Danny’s romantic interests are
Holy crap, you’re right. He’s dating Amber, has feelings for Ethan, and is tutoring Sal. Amber is dating Danny, used to date Ethan, was assaulted by Sal. Sal has no clue who anyone but Danny is. This is a strange love/hate quadrangle.
WAIT HOW DOES ETHAN NOT RECOGNIZE HER
Cause it was probably over five years ago and it wasn’t as traumatic for him.
Ethan was somewhat less traumatized by the event than Amber was, probably largely because for Ethan, it didn’t come atop years and years of vicious psychological abuse from Amber’s monster of a male parent. So he may not remember because he didn’t bother dwelling on what she looked like, or he may have recognized her and assumed that if Joyce is cool with her, he should give her a shot.
That’s boring though, so I’m hoping for screaming realizations later. From both of them.
You also bounce back better from traumatic events when you have a good support network, and maybe Ethan’s parents were actually supportive before he came out of the closet.
Because her hair is straight? I’m pretty sure she wasn’t straightening her hair at the time of the attempted robbery. She presumably didn’t talk with her current southern drawl at the time either. And as comic books have taught me even the smallest of changes in looks and behaviour, like wearing a tiny domino mask, can serve as an effective disguise.
She’s grown up and filled out quite a bit from those days too. I wouldn’t have recognized the two character designs as being the same person if I didn’t know the story.
He knows that the girl that robbed the store and held the knife to his neck lives on Amber’s floor. It is a little surprising that Amber recognized her immediately despite the fact that she looks different and Ethan hasn’t. It is possible that he’ll remember her in tomorrow’s strip.
Also when Amber recognized her, she was wearing the same outfit as the robbery.
Indeed, her hair was curly at the time. Not only that, but she’s carrying herself in a pretty different manner right now: mellow and friendly. (I’m told it’s possible to foil recognition by just changing your posture. Conversely, people have recognized me through a Halloween costume by my lazy slouched walk.)
Even if Ethan DOES recognize Sal, he is himself mellow enough to accept that those days are behind her. He even told Amazi-girl as much.
On the next page after the link, Danny sees Amber freaking out & running off, tho there is a chance he didn’t put 2 & 2 together & get that Amber was running from Sal. Plus does he know about the robbery?
To be fair, it’s been what? Five-ish years? And then a haircut.
Plus, sheer implausibility. In a universe without narrative causality, what are the odds that Ethan’s teenage hostage taker would be sitting next to him at a college party years later?
I guess the convenience store robbery was a defining moment for Amber and Sal, but not for Ethan.
Sal’s straightened hair, completion of puberty, and her voice (accent).
Plus Ethan was probably paying more attention to Amber than to Sal at the time. It may have been kind of a blur for him.
Five years (a person can change quite a bit from age 13 to 18), and Sal currently has the curls murdered out of her hair. Amber has told him that his hostage taker lives in the building, but Ethan hasn’t appeared to recognize her. (From what we can tell at least). Though some in the comments have associated his face in the last panel with a look of recognition. I don’t quite see it though. I think it’s just being caught off guard by Sal’s statement in the last panel.
It’s been five years, her hair and attitude are much different and he wasn’t exactly in a position to look at her after he was taken hostage. When you’re held at knifepoint like he was you tend to face outwards.
And next to Amber’s boyfriend to boot. So much train wreck potential. Now we just need her to get drunk. Shame Billie doesn’t look like she’ll be pouring Sal a drink anytime soon. Maybe Walky will share? 🙂
No way, you see how he is with his snacks~
I’m thinking this too. Originally I was thinking Amber was going to walk in to see Danny and Ethan kissing which will cause a red flashback of when Ethan revealed he was gay to Amber on Prom night. Just like when Amber’s asshole of a dad attempted to take Danny as a hostage. Now that this happened, I’m thinking “Oh crap.”
Best Joyce face yet
Joyce looks like a blow-up doll in the last panel.
Which incidentally ties back in to Sal losing her virginity.
Well, apples are the root of all evil, so says the Bible or somethin’ like that.
Not to say sex is evil or anything. Better quit before I go full Danny.
Uh, Danny has had sex. He got his own slip shine.
Nope, symbolizes the knowledge of good and evil. Very different thing.
Does the bible actually mention what type of fruit the forbidden fruit was? I thought apples were just something that Renaissance artists decided to depict it as.
Not a bit, and there’s considerable debate on the subject. Europe likes it to be an apple, but that may be due to a translation error. Figs, pears, and pomegranates are also popular candidates, and there are plenty of others.
But for purposes of webcomic comment jokes, apples will do.
GOD HATES FIGS
He likes figs fine. It’s those rotten lazy fig trees he can’t stand.
JOYCE’S FUCKING FACE I CAN’T.
What’s the transition from Apples to Apples to sex?
Going to guess a drunken bet was involved.
Making their own cards. Or at least making dirty comments about the selected card…
Joyce’s expression was priceless.
That’s the face of innocence burning.
Y’all’s avatars are perfect mirrors.
Unsurprising, considering that’s Dina doing her Sal impersonation there.
Oh god…Joyce’s face….my sides…Ow….
There shall be angst coming soon and I shall laugh
Yes Joyce yes~ Apples to Apples shall show you the way *evil sith music plays*
I first read that as “evil synth music.” Hey! Yaz isn’t evil, they’re just misunderstood.
Games are for nerds.
Really cool, sexy nerds, but still.
Tbh Sal is a giant nerd.
Oh hey. Sal’s sitting next to the guy she held hostage and the guy who’s girlfriend stabbed her hand and still has a huge hate-boner for her.
Best Apples to Apples? Yes.
I’m confused. Do they not acknowledge each other at all or did I miss something?
I don’t think Ethan remembers her, and I don’t think Amber has gotten a chance to point her out to him (though I think she did tell him she was at the school all Batman to Commissioner Gordon-like).
“Damnit Sal you won again? I’m gonna fuck you up!”
“Be my guest, I’ve been eyeing you all night.”
Not something I’d thought we would learn about Sal.
So, yeah.
How do you go from Apples To Apples all the way to Bananas To Peaches?
At a all girls boarding school? Her first time had to have been Peach to Peach.
It’s cute that you think girls’ schools manage to keep all the guys out.
I suddenly realized a possible benefit of having big thighs and a girly voice.
Or a predilection for cross dressing.
The clothes would be tricky part, probably…i can shave my face but the rest of me is a big no-no…and my mother is way smaller than me so i can’t ask her.
Hmmm, maybe i should keep some ladies clothing for situations like that.
Or all the girls in. Especially when they have a predilection for using upper-story windows as egress.
*plays “Please Don’t Touch My Plums” from the soundtrack of The Duchess and the Dirtwater Fox on the Muzak*
Joyce’s face!
I know, right?
Anyway, all we need now is for Amber to walk in, see Sal, and then run away, crying hysterically.
In any other comic, I wouldn’t bother much about the situation like the panel 4. In DoA… one just KNOWS that there WILL be drama.
Okay but realtalk, in college my friends and I played Stripples to Nipples (Strip Apples to Apples) pretty much every Friday night for a year. It’s pretty simple–if you win a round, you get to take off an article of clothing! Very highly recommended. And yes, Stripping Against Humanity is also excellent.
That actually sounds like a great way to stop both of those games from falling into tedium.
It sure is. And once you’re all naked? Then you play REVERSE Stripples to Nipples! When you win a point, you can take one of the articles of clothing that the current judge came in with. The goal is to assemble the most ridiculous outfit that you can out of other folks’ clothes. It’s wonderful.
This is sounding better and better.
Isn’t the point of most strip games to -stay- clothed while your opponents go through the embarassment of being naked?
I guess that’s one victory condition. Think most people are in it for the eye candy and potential post-game sexy times, though.
Yeah, my friends and I never understood that as a win condition. We don’t get embarrassed about being naked, we get excited about it! Being naked is GREAT, the game is just a funny way to make the process of getting naked even sillier than usual.
Yeah, but…Being in it for the eye candy means that getting the -other- people naked is the objective, but if winning is the objective, than that’s only gonna get -you- naked. In any game, there’s always more losers than winners anyway, which means if the losers strip, you get more people naked faster anyway, right?
You can play to lose. 😉
Ah. This is the part where Joyce gets to find out how “Christian” A2A really is when you’re not playing it with Christians.
Well, not playing it with her sort of Christians. Billie may just be joining this game after all, you see.
And remember, Sal went to a Catholic school. Joyce is Protestant.
I love Joyce’s expression in the last panel! Apples to Apples is the “Christian Cards Against Humanity,” huh? xD
You know how CAH is like a super-offensive version of AtA? Well, when I first heard about CAH, I was like “But you can make dirty jokes with AtA. Why not just do that?” I didn’t understand that CAH is MUCH, MUCH…dirtier.
But it seems Sal found a way to make AtA good and dirty. I respect that!
Could Sal be foreshadowing I wonder … !?
Yes, that is an accurate description of what can happen during Apples to Apples.
So, is it possible that Sal will turn out to have been the worst person to invite to this party? Huge amount of drama disaster potential in Miss Walkerton just waiting to happen.
Sal, wrong tree.
Tempting, but I doubt she’s trying to flirt with Ethan here XD It’s just a random comment.
(I’ll note she was more interested in saying that to a perfect stranger than to Danny, tho)
I noticed that, too!
Tutors are considerably more effective when their aim is to help you learn, and not to get in your pants. I’ve been in a similar situation (I was Danny) where the TA was more interested in sex, and somehow wasn’t a very effective tutor.
…urgh 😐
Double urgh.
Although to be fair to Jason, he made an honest (albeit really ineffective) attempt to help Sal with math right up until she jumped him. The guy’s got lousy self control and bad ethics, but he didn’t start out as a lecher. Marginally less awful than Penny.
I don’t know about lousy self-control I mean: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/whatsallthis/
would be pretty hard (fnar fnar) for anyone to resist
My group was so used to making Apples to Apples dirty that the idea of playing it with our kids was disturbing. Cards Against Humanity just makes it easier to be gross.
For …reasons… “Rubber Gloves” is now an automatic trump card whenever our circle of friends plays A2A. Filth is in the mind of the beholder, as a wise man once said.
You can use it as a condom
Five times
That is the worst birth control concept since WW2 when the US GIs went around convincing the local girls Coca-Cola was a contraceptive.
And you can clearly use it ten times. Just turn it inside out after the first five times. 🙂
Also, it’s “Rubber Gloves,” plural. Two gloves. So, twenty times.
Should…I be taking notes on this?
Yes, and they should read “DON’T DO THIS EVER!”
Sal is not the queen of the nerds imo. Danny actually taught her to play his DHS. She got good fast of course, she’s Sal.
She also doesn’t give a damn about who thinks what is cool or not. Everyone is playing AtoA, okay, she will also. If someone thinks she’s lame, go tell her about it. She has a very chilly “and…” stare.
Joyce, you love Sal because she is so cool, and still expect her to have your ideals. Great eyebrows.
I think you might be misremembering. Sal showed Danny how to win at Mario Kart without prior instruction; Danny just taught her some math afterwards.
My favorite part is how he uses Mario Kart to teach her math (or at least figure out why she’s struggling).
Nope, Danny showed her how to play. Then Sal showed him how to win!
everything in the world can be either a weapon or a fetish
Why not both?
Y’know I have just the link for this. https://imgur.com/gallery/w4lqaPu
Wow. That thing is incredibly…floppy.
…And yet deals the final seen blow…
I kind of want to feel pleased that Sal took Sarah’s words to heart and decided not to spend her evening just waiting around for Marcie. Marcie has made it plain that as much as she likes Sal, she doesn’t want Sal to be her entire social circle, and it’s healthy for Sal to follow suit.
…but the impending explosion is likely to put Sal off social occasions for life, so there’s that.
…provided she survives.
Hahaha. Round one of “is Joyce in awe or embarrassed?” Start.
I think you’re missing ‘turned on’.
Her Sal fantasies are strictly from the neck up, though.
But the luxurious chocolate waves go down to her butt!
I like Sal, I think she’d be a Decepticon. Billie, on the other hand, is clearly a prissy Autobot.
I have a word filter that automatically replaces the names of the major American political parties with the transformers factions. It took me a while to figure out your comment.
Oh hell, can I get that word filter for my computer? And can I change the default words? I want to send resend the Fox news articles my very obsessed Brother-in-law keeps sending me.
Join me and I’ll replace your useless political parties with my iron fist. (Note, my fist is not really made of iron. It’s just an old Cybertronion expression.)
“In other news, the Headmasters on the Supreme Court ruled that fracking for energon is perfectly legal.”
“The Predacon lobby is asking for grater restrictions on animal trapping.”
“A minicon close to the president told us on the condition of anonymity that…”
YOU SAID I’D REMAIN ANONYMOUS!!
Given the crowd here, I have a pretty good guess of which is which.
…that’s hilarous.
Nosebleed joyce!
Ah, Wonderbread. My favorite mildly insulting nickname
Ironically, it’s the most “affectionnate” nickname we ever saw her giving anybody.
Bro. Roomie. Pollyanna. Lisa Simpson.
It’s kind of interesting that Sal, who’s been victimized by her parent’s ingrained racism, is pretty casual about referring to Joyce as “insanely white” and to Danny as “wonderbread.” It’s pretty interesting how she equates their dorky fangirling or overall plainness by how white they are.
It’s possible that she herself has racial biases herself.
I don’t think she sees them as racial biases because she isn’t causing them harm. Doesn’t mean she’s right, though.
I’m not trying to compare her reactions to Joyce or Danny to that of her parents, because what the Walktertons have done has been genuinely harmful to Sal all her life, while what she’s said to them is basically just mildly rude at worst.
Wait, do we actually KNOW that Mom and Dad Walkerton have a racial bias against Sal? I thought that was just in Sal’s head? I guess her dad did say that her hair was “so pretty when it’s long and straight,” but…but it IS so pretty when it’s long and straight, so I didn’t really see that as evidence of a racial bias.
You know, I’ve been thinking for a while that mommy Walkerton favored David because he was a boy, not because he was “whiter”.
It’s been outright confirmed to be over racial preferences, both in and out of the comic.
She boned Jason of all people. Maybe she’s sublimating her attraction to desaturated-Americans.
A desaturated-American would be better known as a mummy.
I think you mean dehydrated. Anyway, I was referring to color saturation.
Why do I get the feeling that Sal boned a teacher at that boarding school, that or a nun.
That might help explain her willingness to jump in the sack with Jason, sadly.
Oh gross noooo…adults boning kids makes me mad. But it does happen…I think that this happened when she snuck out of her dorm, or snuck someone in the dorm. (in boarding school, just to clarify)
I agree it’s vile, but don’t Jason/Sal and Penny/Mike bother you nearly as much? There’s less of a pedo/exploitive caregiver vibe there, but they’re still way older than a freshman and what they’re doing is thoroughly unethical even if the kids are old enough to give informed consent. There’s quite a bit of power disparity even with a TA, after all.
More likely you’re right and Sal just broke curfew with some townies at some point, though.
Heehee Penny/Mike…I believe she slept with Joe. But while I do agree that there is a power imbalance, and that it’s completely unethical, it is still two consenting adults. And I have less of a problem with that. I don’t like teachers boning students that they have power over. Or anyone having sex with people they have power over, for that matter. (Billie/Ruth) But having sex with kids bothers me way more. WAAAAY more.
Cripes, yeah, Penny/Joe. Am I subconsciously shipping Mike with people? How disturbing.
I don’t even think Penny is a mother.
It’s funny – if Sal had come expecting help (which she did), and Jason chose to jump her instead (it was actually the other way around), I’d be bothered a lot more. Should Jason have refused? Of course – it comes with the job.
As for Penny and Joe, well, it’s Joe. Need I say more?
Point is, you’re right about the power disparity, but with a college student and a TA, there are plenty of cases where that was irrelevant. Doesn’t make those cases okay – the student may pressure the TA for better grades, or the TA may ruin the student if a messy breakup occurs. It’s just… less wrong than a situation where power is leveraged for sex.
No matter what anybody says, in my head this is now somehow based on a true story.
Isn’t that kind of a weird thing to say in front of your sibling? Am I the only one who thinks that?
They have a pretty weird relationship. I’m guessing at least part of it is that Sal still wants family to know that she is a REBEL.
If you mean discussing your sex life in front of a sibling, that seems normal enough to me. Not like she’s going into graphic detail, and she’s obviously comfortable about the subject. Why would it be weird talking about it in Walky’s presence but not to a room full of near-strangers?
Agreed. Me and my brother have discussed this sort of stuff. Not in extreme detail, but at this level, sure. If you’re actually close to your sibling its not that weird.
Depends on your closeness to your sibling. My sister and I talk about sex toys and general sex all the time. It’s only awkward if you make it awkward. Then again, I’m very open about my sexual experiences, so it’s rare that I feel odd about opening up. It does happen, but usually not.
Not sure if you can count Walky as being ‘present’ right now.
I don’t see how this undermines Billie’s point at all, Sal is pretty clearly an enormous nerd.
Sal is also so cool Billie is hideously jealous of her.
This. She’s also more popular than Billie, much to the irritation of both of them.
So I guess this confirms that Ethan doesn’t recognize Sal. He probably didn’t get a good look at her face during the whole event, and afterwards was more concerned with Amber. He does know that the girl who threatened to stab him is at the college, but unlike Amber he hasn’t been obsessing over that night for the past five years.
Honestly, I doubt he’s going make an issue of it when he does find out, unless he feels like he has to for Amber’s sake. It was years ago, he didn’t get a scratch in the incident, Sal served her time for the crimes and got a scar to boot, and he’s not the vindictive or obsessive type. If he doesn’t twig to who she is too early, they might even wind up friends.
Which could really make things uncomfortable for Amber, but she needs to work past the Sal hate eventually. Ethan and Danny might be able to help with that if they’ve both had positive experiences with Sal.
I can sort of see that happen. Ethan I feel doesn’t really put much thought into what happened because he’s more concerned with Amber’s safety, and he’s largely over it because it was a long time ago and also because he puts Amber before his own feelings. I doubt he’ll ever become bros with Sal, what with the whole hostage taking at knifepoint, but his main concern is how Amber is reacting to Sal’s presence, which is why when Amber brought up that she was at the college, Ethan was more worried that Amber was climbing through windows and speaking in third person, and he even described Sal as “some girl” in comparison to Amber’s “evil fuck of a father.”
I’m melting, melting….
Aw man, now Joyce is gonna have to choose between her love for Sal and her hatred of pre-marital hanky-panky. One the one hand there’s God, but on the other there is a luxurious chocolate river of hair and a motorcycle.
Oh, Billie, we get it: when you were a secondary student you did the stupidest, most cringeworthy school-related activity of all time and you think it makes you special. Petty, self-absorbed and indicative of how amazingly little you know of the world.
On the other hand, I’M the one who’s telling a comic strip character to get a life.
STILL FITNESS.
Joyce face is best face
Joyce’s eyebrows are grabbing some seriously Big Air.
Sal broke Joyce. You can almost see the steam coming out of her ears…maybe I watch too much anime 😛
Baka! No such thing as too much.
Unless it’s something like Pokemon. Then you need help.
Better Pokémon than crap like Queen’s blade…
Queen’s Blade is mild as terrible anime goes. You want to make an anime fan stammer and change the subject, try School Days.
My impression after a Valentine’s Day marathon was that School Days was well done for what it was. Doesn’t mean I’d want to watch it again, but still.
Lot of people hate it like poison, and ye gods, that ending. Not that he doesn’t deserve worse, but the girls’ fate makes Romeo & Juliet look cheery by comparison.
Still, if you want an alternate awful, how’s about Kiss X Sis? Incest ecchi bad enough?
Ugh, KissxSiss.
My friends and I used to get drunk and randomly choose manga off of one of the many manga sites. We’d then spin a bottle and have to read at least 5 chapters before describing it in an abriged (i.e. drunk) fashion.
I got Kissxsiss. I felt my eyes burning in disgust by the 2nd chapter.
I think I’d rather play Russian roulette than take my chances on random manga.
Have barely heard of it, so can’t say. Incest has a fine pedigree (…) going back to at least Victorian erotica; this sounds like something that’d be bad for gen use but hot for many people.
People tell me DBZ consists of many episodes of people yelling at each other, with multiple episodes per powerup. That sounds pretty dreadful, but I have trouble believing them.
Ooh, Endless Eight. WTF, studio. WTF.
EE is almost literally “too much anime”, of a particular type. Eight almost identical episodes, animated differently each time…
OTOH, it does a fantastic job of trolling Haruhi fans, and sitting through all eight episodes really gives you an appreciation of the hell of tedium poor Yuki lived through. Makes her actions in Disappearance more believable.
With DBZ, I think I’ll stick to Team Four Star’s version. The description you passed along is only a minor exaggeration of the original.
Best face ever!
I literally came to the comments section just to see who had changed their Gravatar to that face. It is truly glorious.
It had to be done 🙂
I feel sorry for Joyce.
This will be Billie’s biggest issue to over come in her life. I realized that learning to stop hating on stuff for no reason is one of the biggest things you can do to grow the fuck up.
Other music genre’s are not that bad. No one genre of entertainment is truly superior to all others. And it’s OK to stop trying to look cool for the sake of a little harmless fun. I went to plenty of college parties, and they were great, but some of my best night were playing video games or thing similar to A2A with a big group of people.
It’s honestly sad when people can’t figure out that coolness doesn’t actually matter, and in your pursuit of not being a geek, you miss out on a lot of fun.
Joyce’s red apple: Lusty
Her green apples:
Motorcycles
Whiteboards
Lightsabers
Sushi
Apples to Apples
It’s a sign from God, Joyce.
Uh, sorry to nitpick, but red apples are the nouns and green apples are the adjectives. You did put the right parts of speech in the right places though.
Joyce loves those lusty lightsabers.
Joyce’s face makes me so happy.
Wow! Billie isn’t a happy bunny-rabbit with this turn of events, is she? Is she jealous of Sal? Or is she just such a bitter spirit that the thought of anyone having fun just makes her fume?
As for Joyce? Oh, those are stars in her eyes! I still can’t get my head around the fact that she’s somehow imprinted on Sal who is, let’s face it, as close to her diametric opposite as it is possible to get! Yet, somehow, the idea of a game of A2A turning into a first sexual experience entrances her!
Now, we merely await the response when Amber sees Sal sitting next to her boyfriend and the man she once held hostage. Remembering, of course, that Sal is, after Amber’s father, the most traumatic boogey-man in her fractured psyche. Can you say ‘interesting times’?
Pretty sure Billie is upset that the coolest, sexiest girl she knows just waltzed in and basically made Apples to Apples sound incredibly awesome. Billie did just insult the game. Not only does Sal want to play it, she used to play it ALL THE TIME, AND she got laid because of it.
I’m not sure getting laid because of a game would impress Billie, of all people.
Poor Billie. She’s so resentful toward Sal because (as far as she knows*) she’s not afraid of doing things for fear of looking uncool, while Billie tries to maintain an air of dignity based on what society has taught her, and in the end misses out on friendship and fun. Billie is kinda like DoA’s Squidward (How’s that for a disturbing analogy?).
*To be fair, Billie isn’t aware that Sal does hide her “extracurricular math activities”, because she doesn’t want people to know she’s bad at math, that she cares about her grades, and that she’s having an illicit relationship with a snobby, bowtie-wearing nerd. So even Sal cares about her reputation.
Pretty sure the tutoring is now completely separate from the affair, given how Danny has been co-opted into providing the former.
Would pay to see that slipshine. Not even out of lust, just because… Apples to Apples? HOW?!
“Nah, I’m cool bein’ antisocial in my ro-
Did they just say Apples To Apples??”
ZIP
“I’M IN!”
Ah, the power of gaming.
Sal is pretty passionate about her games, yes.
Currently, I count three virgins in the DoA main cast: Joyce, Ethan, and Dina. Walky was one at first, but no longer. Did I miss any?
(And, no, I didn’t forget about Riley – I said MAIN cast!!)
Those are confirmed. If we’re counting everyone on the cast page, Becky is probably a virgin (seemed like she and her partner got caught early) and Carla’s an ace by Word of God so she’s likely one as well. I don’t think Sarah is definitely in either camp by canon unless you count Little Jacob, although she sure doesn’t act like a stereotypical virgin. Mike also isn’t confirmed as either, which is pretty funny considering his Walkyverse antics.
Interesting. I would have put Becky in the ‘not a virgin’ category, as she seems quite converted by her experience, so I’m assumed it was a fulfilling one. (I’m also not sure if ‘virginity’ means anything to lesbians, or what it means.) As for Carla being an ace doesn’t mean you’ve never had sex before – I’d think you’d want to try sex at least once before deciding that it isn’t important.
How many dudes do you gotta have sex with before you can decide you’re not gay?
I see your point, but the answer probably varies from person to person. Just because I’d say “zero” doesn’t mean someone else would.
Carla lives in your head, so I guess we can add her to the canonical list of virgins.
It’s not necessarily that there’s anything wrong with playing the field a bit before you find an answer, but it’s pretty insulting to say that you don’t *really* know until you’ve tried.
At the risk of getting up my own ass, I know I’m bisexual, but I haven’t been with another guy before and maybe never will, and that’s fine, but honestly sometimes I tell myself that I don’t count as a bi dude because, hey, I don’t “really know” right?
Just to be clear, I want to state that I don’t think you or Deanatay were even remotely seriously trying to come to any point like that.
Not sure how to respond to that. Labels can be kind of limiting, but I’d say who you’re attracted to is relevant whether you act on those attractions or not. Sexual behavior is discrete from sexual identity, after all. What you call yourself is ultimately up to you, and “just myself” is as valid a choice as “bi” is.
And now I sound like Ashley over on EGS.
Anyway, my reasoning behind saying that Carla was “likely” a virgin (rather than definitely) was based on the fact that asexuals sometimes choose to have sex even when they really aren’t interested, not because they necessarily need to experiment to know they aren’t.
I get that, but I was trying to dissuade the argument Deanatay was making above about wanting to try it once before she dismisses it.
That is a perfectly valid and healthy thing for ace people to do, and it is likewise perfectly valid and healthy to say “Nah, not interested.” from the word go, just like how I should be able to say “I’m bi” without second guessing myself over it because I haven’t touched a wiener.
Three.
BILLIE YOU WILL NEVER BE COOL
that story needs to be the next slipshine
please do not request underaged kids to be in slipshines
Wow, how old was she when she did it? I was assuming she was 16-17 ish. I don’t consider that underage.
18 is the typical age of consent, therefore 16 and 17 is underage. On the internet, any people shown in pornographic form that are under the age of 18 are considered child pornography.
Actually, it isn’t typical. Ages below 18 are more common. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent#Law
The point is that 18 is the typical minimum age of an adult.
18 isn’t the typical AoC…what it is is the typical age to appear in porn. Drawings aren’t settled law in the US, but they are in some other places, and even in the US, you’re liable to be hit with Obscenity, even if not Child Porn, charges.
True. I suppose I just got so used to 18 being the age of consent in my state, that I forgot that it’s often younger elsewhere. I did do some research, and yes, it appears as though comic child pornography is legal because it “isn’t hurting any real children.” It is therefore up to the artist if they wish to draw it. I’m with Willis though on his stance on drawing under 18 porn. Maybe it’s just because of the laws I’m used to, I dunno.
I think I just don’t want to see depictions of kids having sex with each other. I’d rather look at adults.
The age of consent in my state is 16 (and I think someone would have to be very uptight about sex indeed to think that was too low). However, depictions of people (even illustrations) who are under the age of adulthood (18) is a different matter (though I don’t understand why I shouldn’t be allowed to publish a drawing of a naked person I’m entitled to have consensual sex with).
Willis is in the US, which has a global reputation for being full of nitwits who are hysterical about teenagers having sex. So he’s certainly being sensible by avoiding such depictions of under-18s.
Oops. I meant to say “an imaginary naked person” etc.
Or, Willis just doesn’t want to draw teenagers having sex, and would rather stick to drawing adults.
It’s alarming how often you have to say that.
I was about to comment on the same thing.
Joyce’s expression on the last panel makes me giggle.
Joyce: “L-lewd!”
Suddenly I’m wondering why Dotty’s face in hidden in both panel she appear in.
maybe…
She asked alcohol from Billie, too~~ and her face’s flushed.
Ah well, just making silly theories.
I think it’s merely because the focus is on Joyce, and the camera angle doesn’t allow for her face to be shown.
I don’t know whose face is more entertaining in that last panel, Joyce’s or Billie who’s just been out-cooled.
This party is such an explosion waiting to go off. And yet it’s almost certain Sal will be gone before Amber gets there, as Damn You Willus teases us.
Tho, there’s a long shot that I’m wrong and the way to Danny/Ethan is opened up by Amber/Amazigirl breaking up with him because of Sal. And then of course after the Slipshine she discovers her mistake and wants to make up.
And Mary hasn’t even crashed the party yet.
No! Premarital Hanky Panky!
This is my favorite Joyce face ever.
Seconded. I think I like this face better than all previous Willis-drawn faces combined.
I love that Sal calls Danny “wonderbread” and he’s not even insulted by it
Are we not going to talk about //wonderbread//
THE FUNNIEST PART IS THAT AN ARTIST NAMED DANNY MADE A SONG CALLED WONDERBREAD IM DYING RIGHT NOW OMG
JOYCE’S FACE OH MY GGGGGG