If I’m correct it’s from a newspaper comic that also appears online. There is nudity but since the characters are not humans only super prudes complain about it.
They’re in bed together. It’s perfectly normal. Is she supposed to stare at the wall for fear of seeing Joyce’s sleeping form?
Like, sure, if she was some intruder staring through the window then would be another thing entirely, but once two people start sharing a bed I feel like it’s implicitly understood that they’re gonna see eachother sleeping and they’re comfortable with that.
I think Victor Riley is making a distinction between “seeing” and “watching”, though. The former is normal if you share a room, much less a bed. The latter, however, can be seen as having a bit of a creep factor, depending on a couple factors:
1: What your relationship is
2: What you want the relationship to be.
Joyce & Becky: “One-Bed Slumber Partyyyy!”
Sarah: “I hate slumber parties.”
Raidah: “Hi.”
Sarah: “Correction: I REALLY hate slumber parties.”
Amber: (OH GOD, SHE’S RIGHT NEXT TO ME)
Sal: “Fuckin’ DS battery is dry again already.”
Malaya: “Wait, I thought you lived off campus.”
Marcie: *Shrug*
Billie: (I want to make out with Ruth, but I can’t while everyone is here to see it.)
Ruth: (I need a freaking drink, but there would be too many witnesses.)
Dorothy: “Now that I think of it, you kinda resemble Ultra C–”
Carla: “You only WISH you were as cool as Ultra Car, fleshling.”
Mary: “Nothing good can possibly come of this arrangement.”
Sierra: “Hey, loosen up! People who need other people are the luckiest people in the world, right?”
Mary: “That’s the stupidest thing I ever heard.”
Mandy: “This is the boringest orgy ever.”
Grace: “Girls Gone Mild.”
Dina: “Like the dinosaurs, I am immobile and buried under several layers to fossilize. Unlike the dinosaurs, the layers are made of people rather than sediment.”
ELSEWHERE…
Faz: “Somewhere in the world, there are girls sleeping with other girls.”
Howard: “You say that every five minutes or so.”
Faz: “The great Faz is most adept at sensing it when it happens.”
Google says there is no such object on the Internet at this moment, and I made sure safe search was turned off (Interestingly enough there are a number of women named Poindexter who have been caught with a vibrator in their carry-on luggage…)
Becky. You were sent to assassinate the target! The ministry sent you to take out the girl because we sensed she was weak in her beliefs. Don’t fall in love with the target, Agent Becky.
I remember mine being _just_ big enough for two people, and these two are quite a bit smaller than I am. Seems like it’d work out, so long as they don’t flail around in their sleep.
I personally thought Sisyphus had it pretty good, all things considered. Sure, he had to forever push rock that would always roll down a hill, but think of the great workout it’d be!
My Latin teacher told me that the reason the Greek/Roman gods were such jerks was because the Greeks/Romans figured that if the gods were higher than the humans, then they were also WORSE than humans.
There’s a statement to be made about human nature here, but I’m not clever enough to piece it out.
I think your latin teacher was kinda full of it. The reason the Greek and Roman gods were such jerks is the same reason ALL gods come off as jerks. Because nature is capricious and uncaring, and uneducated tribes who ascribe the workings of nature to the intent of intelligent beings pretty much have to assume that those beings are dicks because otherwise it doesn’t make sense that sweet little Acacius got eaten by a bear when he was like four.
Eh, Persephone might have some issue with that statement. And note, the whole resolution of that story–Persephone has to stay in Hades realm for half the year, causing her mother, Demeter, to stop the land from being fruitful–ie, fall and winter. So that snowstorm that buried Boston this year? Totally Hades fault.
That’s… unclear. It’s never clarified if Hades kidnapped Persephone or if she really wanted to go with him, and the kidnapped version was Demeter being over-controlling of her daughter.
It’s also worth noting that Greek winters are the GOOD season, what with the Mediterranean and all. When Persephone is in Hades, what you get are the scorching summers. So that snowstorm? Hades is the reason it didn’t last all year, every year.
To be fair, the way women were treated back then wouldn’t exactly be considered tolerable by today’s standards, so it’s not as if Hades was being abnormally cruel compared to his time. Hell, he even let her leave for half a year at a time.
Didn’t Hades ask Zeus for permission before he took her though? I don’t remember the myth exactly but I thought he went through proper channels in the ‘real’ story and Demeter threw a tantrum about it.
A couple of points concerning Hephaestus:
– Acting like an ass is usually a defense mechanism.
– The best defense is a good offense.
– Hephaestus could FORGE LIGHTNING BOLTS.
– Hephaestus never needed to act like an ass.
Those were all for Zeus, though – Hephaestus never got to throw any lightning bolts around. On the other hand, when a god has earthquakes and volcanoes at his disposal, lightning bolts are a bit of a sissy move anyway.
Also, Hephaestus could be every bit as much of a jerk as the others, humiliating both Hera and Aphrodite (in revenge for slights against him – casting him down and cheating on him, respectively).
Can’t reply directly to Kamino – perhaps we’ve reached the reply nesting limit.
You’re totally right on the earthquakes thing, duh. Still, I think Hephaestus is allowed to be a bastard to Hera – she DID throw him off the top of Mount OLympus, after all. And I thought trapping Afrodite and Ares in that net was funny, but maybe that’s my aversion to cheaters talking. >_>
Wow Becky is living the worst kind of Unrequited Love. Not only was she rejected but now she lives with her wanna-be love and will be constantly reminded that she has no hope.
How many times will she fool her self into thinking platonic love can lead to romantic? How many times will she get crushed? Will we every see a fully happy Becky?
And Danny recently learned for the first time in his life that he likes D. Why can’t the same be said for Joyce suddenly learning something about herself?
With what Joyce has been going through it’d probably be better for her to process fully whats been happening before embarking on another life-changing discovery
As someone who was awakened to their bisexuality with a kiss, I have to say the kiss was really what opened up the can. I suddenly realized girls, kissing girls, for me, was no different than kissing guys (aka, girl kissing is just as awesome and sexy and turns me on just as much as guy kissing does).
Becky kissed Joyce, and Joyce did not enjoy it. And I think it’s important to respect that.
everytime i post about being bi I get leslie, and everytime I post about something else/something rather cynical, I get sarah. Does the avatar chooser have a screening or something?
There’s also the fact that Joyce has thought about the subject several times. If she isn’t into Becky, Dorothy, Sal or Billie it just isn’t going to happen.
Seriously, if one of them doesn’t do it for you, you have no interest in ladies. I mean, we’ve got Bad Girl Sal; Manic Pixie Girl Becky; Geek Goddess Dorothy; and Party Girl Billie. I find it hard to believe none of those would appeal to someone who had a potential interest in female partners.
Yeah, and while we’re at it, why can’t Ethan suddenly learn that he’s attracted to some women or vagina-havers? Oh thats right. People are always saying you don’t chose your sexuality. And that it’s wrong to try and change other peoples. Or wait, they just say that about homosexuals. Why the same respect isn’t extended towards heterosexuals is, of course, illogical. Saying that Joyce just needs a push to discover “her gay leanings” or whatever is just as rude as saying Ethan just needs a push to discover he’s actually straight or bi.
That is a double standard, I actually think everyone needs a “push” sometimes, not out of lack of respect, but out of understanding enough of the human psyche to know that everyone can fall into the trap of repressing something so hard for random reasons that they themselves are completely unaware of. I simply don’t think anyone can be trusted to know themselves better than anyone else, myself included. Just don’t insist on anything that involve other people’s boundaries, and there’s a fine line between “suggesting” and “insisting”.
I think conversations like this sometimes come up because it’s possible to identify as straight without ever questioning yourself or considering the alternatives. Even people who aren’t very happy with heterosexual relationships / attraction might not give it much thought. In contrast, people with any kind of non-majority sexuality probably had to realize that they were different from the societal standard, and probably had to take some shit for it as well. It’s much less likely that someone would identify as gay just because they’ve never given it any thought.
That said, I agree that you shouldn’t hassle people about their sexuality, period.
That’s really not at all true. That’s like saying Ethan’s never tried it with a dude, how does he know he’s gay rather than being only into agender people, or being ace, or other options, you know?
I said shut off, not lose: as in, be able to turn on and off at will. I also meant selectively. Being able to just stop loving someone who was abusive for example would be pretty great.
It’s pretty hard to cut off your emotions like that. It’s been one day and the person that Becky likes hangs out with her 24/7. Becky actually wandered off alone for part of the day, probably because she needed some time where she wasn’t with her crush who she now knows she can’t be with. Give her some time!
I feel like every time I glance at the comments, there has to be someone interpreting Becky in the worst possible light. Just want to throw out there that there’s someone that’s been for her every step of the way. I find it easy to empathize with her pining. I’ll never understand why such a normal human mess of emotions warrants such harsh judgement. Rock on, Becky. Your epic saga of heartbreak and shit-stirring is just getting started.
Thats why (to me anyway) this comic is so good, everyone who reads it interprets it in their own way based on their own personal experiences which makes it interesting to read the comments
I try to remember that, but sometimes it just seems worth avoiding the comments altogether because you know it’s going to be filled with 101 Marys (sans the fundamentalism).
I figure the reason is a poorly-understood comprehension of one’s innate adherence to heteronormativity. (Or, not everyone is fully past the “Joyce” stage of knowing the world.) I just shrug, understand that 10 people think 10 different ways, and hope for the best.
For me it’s largely due to the pace of the comic. Intellectually I know it’s only been one day and Becky mostly deserves to be cut a lot of slack, though she was still over the line several times, but it’s been stretched out so long that the obnoxious behaviour that ordinarily would have only been a few minutes have had time to eat away my sympathy.
That’s where my issues with Becky stem from as well. Looking at it from a wider perspective I understand that Becky is going through unimaginable hardship right now, so if she acted in any other way I think it’d be frankly unrealistic. However, as appropriate as it is, it’s still frustrating to read about a new character acting like a dick to long established characters, and she’s been doing it for months now.
I like Becky but I can also be frustrated with her without actually just sublimating a massive hatred for her haircut.
Also, all thing considered she has had a pretty good day. She could spend it with Joyce and come out as gay and have clean clothes and eat and shower and meet non-judgemental people and get a rad haircut.
But all those other things involving butthole dads and correction camps and homeless youths on the run without plans or money still lingers in the edge of her thoughts. Sometimes they sneak up on her, for example late at night when everyone else is sleeping.
Being in like with a straight friend is the worst. For me it really helped to just tell the friend so you can hear the “Umm, no” straight from the horse’s mouth, but I guess Becky’s still pretty beat up over it.
Poor Becky. I hope she gets to the more bittersweet stage of an unrequited crush:
Unrequited love’s a bore / and I’ve got it pretty bad / but for someone you adore / it’s a pleasure to be saaaad
Sorry, Becky. Joyce has already told you that she’s just not that into you ‘that way’ — and all the wistful smiles and gentle touches of the shoulder in the world aren’t going to change that.
I don’t think Becky is leaving, but it is something to think about.
This isn’t unrequited love: it is ‘never gonna happen love”.
Speaking of ankles: my grandmother was born in 1895 and wore knee length dresses with tights, and her hair down, until puberty. At which time she switched to ankle length dresses and her hair went upswept.
Getting into a horse drawn carriage, she had to stand on the stone by the curb that was there for that purpose: but was wearing a very tight long skirt. She was mad at her husband to be for some reason. She reached down and tore her skirt from the ankle to the knee and then climbed into the carriage.
When she told me this story, she said she shocked the other passengers so bad that a woman had to use her smelling salts to prevent herself from fainting.
Interesting mores then and now.
I don’t know. The expression on Becky’s face doesn’t look like “poor Becky suffering through unrequited love” to me; it looks like she’s pissed that Joyce is so sound asleep that a touch to the shoulder brought absolutely no reaction whatsoever.
Is it just me….or did they turn the bed around? Thinking of the comic where Dorothy wants to go running…..and the wall was on the right side of the bed if you were laying in it……here its on the left? Am I just confused?
Hmmm. As far as I can see you are right, unless we watch it from the perspective of the wall. Maybe they try out different ways to fit both of them in the bed?
Thought bubbles:
Panel 1: I can’t sleep.
Panel 2: Joyce.
Panel 3: You saved me, Joyce. You are the best thing in my life, right now.
Panel 4: I love you, Joyce.
Panel 5: Crap. Maybe my evening showers need to be colder.
So between more of my constant bongoing about Becky, I forgot to add that this is an extremely effective strip that basically perfectly encapsulates Becky’s current drama. It manages to run from a very soft, warm moment to crushing sadness in a single panel, all while emphasizing the torrent of emotion that Becky’s been forced into.
Wow. I love how the first couple pages of comics are all about how Becky’s not being rapey enough to her best friend who has already been assaulted once. >_<
I def don’t read the shoulder touch as coppin’ a feel. Or even really as showing affection. I read it as “You’re snoring and it’s keepin’ me up, so maybe if I gently shoulder-nudge you, you’ll shut up.”
But I guess the title “Unrequited” means there’s more feels here.
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least opportunistic cop-a-feel
Shoulders < Boobs
I hope someone with a shoulder fetish never reads that.
Because somebody with a shoulder fetish definitely has to be a stranger to controversy, right?
too late 😉
Shoulders are the gateway. Why do you think some schools have bans on shoulder baring clothes?
Sounds legit.
I thought that knees were the original gateway. 😀
Hipster knees. Fucking hipsters.
*off topic* hehehe i know where your avatar came from
But where? Is it a webcomic? It looks like a webcomic.
Unless it’s porn in which case I’ll appreciate the cropped snippet here and move on.
If I’m correct it’s from a newspaper comic that also appears online. There is nudity but since the characters are not humans only super prudes complain about it.
It’s porn. It got linked here sometime back, then removed. It is very porn.
but where is it from? 🙂
r/elsanna. I’ll let you figure out the rest, by looking through my post history(I have the same username there. n.n
“Cynthia” doesn’t have a post history AFAICT
I heard it was the ankle.
Back in the Victorian period that might have been true…
You mean to tell me we’re not still in the Victorian period? Well…. crap.
Sorry you had to find out this way. 😛
But just hold out long enough and we’ll eventually enter the neo-Victorian period, so it’s all good.
Steampunk’s already there! 😀
Sweden will be there in only a couple of decades or so.
Don’t worry,
Don’t worry, you’re covered: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/weiner/the-gentlemans-single-use-monocle
In Japan the neck used to be the gateway. You can see the “naughty” woodblocks with the women baring their necks. Shocking!
Truly Japan is a trailblazer in that they invented porn for vampires before Twilight was ever conceived.
(Also probably before modern vampires themselves were conceived. Japan is ahead of the game.)
I do believe you mean to say that they’re “a neck ahead of the competition”.
Just wanted to say i love your avatar;)
Thank you!
Until a school uniform enforces face masks my fetish will never be hidden from me.
Spoiler: Lips.
Shoulders: The gateway drug.
Have you watched that DC universe online trailer? Totally relevant
Cop-a-fail.
coined
S’all good–depending on the kind of touch. If it’s about affection and physical contact a shoulder is good.
Showing sympathy via light physical contact.
If your avatar were Dina, you’d absolutely win the intertoobs today.
As we say this side of the Atlantic, copping some zeds.
Joyce is a sound sleeper.
…and that sound is Z!
I z (zee) what you did there.
I’m glad that z noticed!
Zhe did! 😀
Wait, does Joyce’s Z get bigger as Becky puts her hand on her?? DOES THAT MEAN SOMETHING????
(no)
It means that Joyce snores louder when Becky touches her shoulder, which indicates she gets more relaxed.
…at least it wasn’t a fart.
Wouldn’t she snore softer if she was more relaxed though ?
Aww, Becky was happy for one shining moment there in panel 4…and then she went and made herself sad.
*SLEEP INTENSIFIES*
Becky… watching people sleep can be kinda creepy. Just so you know.
But Joyce is a Twilight fan, so that means it’s romantic… right?
They’re in bed together. It’s perfectly normal. Is she supposed to stare at the wall for fear of seeing Joyce’s sleeping form?
Like, sure, if she was some intruder staring through the window then would be another thing entirely, but once two people start sharing a bed I feel like it’s implicitly understood that they’re gonna see eachother sleeping and they’re comfortable with that.
I think Victor Riley is making a distinction between “seeing” and “watching”, though. The former is normal if you share a room, much less a bed. The latter, however, can be seen as having a bit of a creep factor, depending on a couple factors:
1: What your relationship is
2: What you want the relationship to be.
3: How unblinkingly you stare and how much of your whites are showing.
You mean…
+1 Baaaaa for a Shaun reference.
Just be glad that neither prefer sleeping in the nude for their own sanity.
There’s just no way that’s happening with Joyce.
Garden of Eden style.
Keats’ _Endymion_. ’nuff said.
So sad! @.@
Poor Becky indeed. I want to hug her.
Waking up next to Joyce is all she ever wanted…. sadly she expected to be in a relationship with her when it happened.
Yes, Becky. You do deserve to have Joyce as a friend, just as she deserves you. The two of you are just that awesome.
If only that weren’t chased by crushing disappointment.
See, I’m just assuming the culprit is snores.
Clearly, Joyce just passed gas.
Nothing ruins a crush like farting.
Becky would be turned on by that, probably
……I find that weird but also kinky.
Good, for a moment I thought I was the only one here who had butts disease.
Willis! Keeping the tradition alive!
If a chapter ends in the day we riot!
Wait … I thought the angsting in bed came at the end of the book?
The End of the Book is when all the characters are angsting in bed, not just one.
I assume they’re all in the same bed angsting.
If they were all in the same bed, I somehow doubt there would be very much angst.
You’d be surprised.
Joyce & Becky: “One-Bed Slumber Partyyyy!”
Sarah: “I hate slumber parties.”
Raidah: “Hi.”
Sarah: “Correction: I REALLY hate slumber parties.”
Amber: (OH GOD, SHE’S RIGHT NEXT TO ME)
Sal: “Fuckin’ DS battery is dry again already.”
Malaya: “Wait, I thought you lived off campus.”
Marcie: *Shrug*
Billie: (I want to make out with Ruth, but I can’t while everyone is here to see it.)
Ruth: (I need a freaking drink, but there would be too many witnesses.)
Dorothy: “Now that I think of it, you kinda resemble Ultra C–”
Carla: “You only WISH you were as cool as Ultra Car, fleshling.”
Mary: “Nothing good can possibly come of this arrangement.”
Sierra: “Hey, loosen up! People who need other people are the luckiest people in the world, right?”
Mary: “That’s the stupidest thing I ever heard.”
Mandy: “This is the boringest orgy ever.”
Grace: “Girls Gone Mild.”
Dina: “Like the dinosaurs, I am immobile and buried under several layers to fossilize. Unlike the dinosaurs, the layers are made of people rather than sediment.”
ELSEWHERE…
Faz: “Somewhere in the world, there are girls sleeping with other girls.”
Howard: “You say that every five minutes or so.”
Faz: “The great Faz is most adept at sensing it when it happens.”
WIN!
Of course the great Faz and Howard are class mates, because of reasons. I’m afraid Sierra wont’ stay in the bed for long though – she needs to leave.
Here’s an internet for ya!
It’s times like these I wish there was a like button in the comments section. Since there isn’t, have an internet instead. Don’t get it wet now.
XD
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h252/ShadowStalkerWA/Emoticons/11002499_10200107599568248_3854489698682705222_n_zps1xumqvea.jpg
And that is how you get angst.
-should have used a Sterling Archer avatar.
Snoring! Poor Becky!
Becky, if you want Joyce to like you, die your hair blonde and wear glasses
How would that help??
I wanna make a joke about what Becky called Dotty but it just makes me feel evil and I can’t do it v.v
For some reason I now imagine that there is a vibrator called the Poindexter Boner.
Bonedexter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTwO3EamQRI
It has been so long since I watched that movie.
Google says there is no such object on the Internet at this moment, and I made sure safe search was turned off (Interestingly enough there are a number of women named Poindexter who have been caught with a vibrator in their carry-on luggage…)
I believe the proper hair color is black and she needs to at least be three darker skin shades. Also never cut her hair and drive a motorcycle.
But Sal’s more of rebel role model to her than lust object.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/foranybody/ That is all.
Pretty sure the implication there is for either Becky or Dorothy, nor Sal.
Pretty sure the comic in question clearly states otherwise.
And then use her hairs as a tripod ?
Gah, I know that feeling. Shoulder and otherwise.
Someday when we’re dreaming/Deep in love, not a lot to say/Then we will remember/Things We Said Today
Aww, Becky! ;-(
Tomorrow’s a new day, sleepyhead.
Becky. You were sent to assassinate the target! The ministry sent you to take out the girl because we sensed she was weak in her beliefs. Don’t fall in love with the target, Agent Becky.
The only references I can think up right now is Mr. And Mrs.Smith and that one American Dad episode.
Those are surprisingly wide Dorm beds.
I remember mine being _just_ big enough for two people, and these two are quite a bit smaller than I am. Seems like it’d work out, so long as they don’t flail around in their sleep.
Someone asking the real questions. 😛
I seem to recall Word Of God somewhere that Willis consistently designed the beds a little wider to accommodate scenes like these.
It’s like one of those Greek myths of torture. What you want most yet cannot have is so close and yet so far.
Actually, that’s probably too pagan for Becky.
Ah Tantalus, the guy who was punished so when he reached for the fruit it pulled away and when he tried to drink the water, it receded.
I personally thought Sisyphus had it pretty good, all things considered. Sure, he had to forever push rock that would always roll down a hill, but think of the great workout it’d be!
Sisyphus gets a work-out while Tantalus endures everlasting starvation and thirst.
Nono, it’s called dieting! Imagine how slim and healthy he’d get! Full of energy!
No love for Prometheus aka that motherf**ker getting his liver pointed out daily?
It goes to show that Greek/Roman Gods were dicks of the highest order.
My Latin teacher told me that the reason the Greek/Roman gods were such jerks was because the Greeks/Romans figured that if the gods were higher than the humans, then they were also WORSE than humans.
There’s a statement to be made about human nature here, but I’m not clever enough to piece it out.
I think it’s more a power corrupts kind of thing
I think your latin teacher was kinda full of it. The reason the Greek and Roman gods were such jerks is the same reason ALL gods come off as jerks. Because nature is capricious and uncaring, and uneducated tribes who ascribe the workings of nature to the intent of intelligent beings pretty much have to assume that those beings are dicks because otherwise it doesn’t make sense that sweet little Acacius got eaten by a bear when he was like four.
The idea is that the Greek and Roman gods are exactly as bad as we humans would be if we could do whatever we want with no comeuppance.
Which is probably entirely accurate.
Hey, let’s not lump all the Greek Pantheon together as assholes. Hephaestus was a chill dude.
Hades was also a nice enough fella.
Eh, Persephone might have some issue with that statement. And note, the whole resolution of that story–Persephone has to stay in Hades realm for half the year, causing her mother, Demeter, to stop the land from being fruitful–ie, fall and winter. So that snowstorm that buried Boston this year? Totally Hades fault.
That’s… unclear. It’s never clarified if Hades kidnapped Persephone or if she really wanted to go with him, and the kidnapped version was Demeter being over-controlling of her daughter.
It’s also worth noting that Greek winters are the GOOD season, what with the Mediterranean and all. When Persephone is in Hades, what you get are the scorching summers. So that snowstorm? Hades is the reason it didn’t last all year, every year.
To be fair, the way women were treated back then wouldn’t exactly be considered tolerable by today’s standards, so it’s not as if Hades was being abnormally cruel compared to his time. Hell, he even let her leave for half a year at a time.
Didn’t Hades ask Zeus for permission before he took her though? I don’t remember the myth exactly but I thought he went through proper channels in the ‘real’ story and Demeter threw a tantrum about it.
A couple of points concerning Hephaestus:
– Acting like an ass is usually a defense mechanism.
– The best defense is a good offense.
– Hephaestus could FORGE LIGHTNING BOLTS.
– Hephaestus never needed to act like an ass.
This logic is unassailable.
Those were all for Zeus, though – Hephaestus never got to throw any lightning bolts around. On the other hand, when a god has earthquakes and volcanoes at his disposal, lightning bolts are a bit of a sissy move anyway.
Earthquakes were Poseidon’s thing.
Also, Hephaestus could be every bit as much of a jerk as the others, humiliating both Hera and Aphrodite (in revenge for slights against him – casting him down and cheating on him, respectively).
Can’t reply directly to Kamino – perhaps we’ve reached the reply nesting limit.
You’re totally right on the earthquakes thing, duh. Still, I think Hephaestus is allowed to be a bastard to Hera – she DID throw him off the top of Mount OLympus, after all. And I thought trapping Afrodite and Ares in that net was funny, but maybe that’s my aversion to cheaters talking. >_>
And IIRC, Hephaestus tried to rape Athena once and failed, and somehow that produced a kid?
No love for Prometheus aka that motherf**ker getting his liver pointed out daily?
“Hey, Prometheus! Your liver is right about… there!” *pokes stomach*
“I. FUCKING. KNOW!!!“
New storyline? It’s already been 3 months?! Dang, time flies!
Wow Becky is living the worst kind of Unrequited Love. Not only was she rejected but now she lives with her wanna-be love and will be constantly reminded that she has no hope.
How many times will she fool her self into thinking platonic love can lead to romantic? How many times will she get crushed? Will we every see a fully happy Becky?
Probably not until she finds another to love. Or bang her silly till she doesn’t care, which ever’s first…
Ok Becky this is getting a little unhealthy, she really should think about moving on asap
She shouldn’t. I mean, Joyce already dated one gay person. How hard can it be to convince her to date another?
Cause Joyce likes the D not the V
And Danny recently learned for the first time in his life that he likes D. Why can’t the same be said for Joyce suddenly learning something about herself?
With what Joyce has been going through it’d probably be better for her to process fully whats been happening before embarking on another life-changing discovery
As someone who was awakened to their bisexuality with a kiss, I have to say the kiss was really what opened up the can. I suddenly realized girls, kissing girls, for me, was no different than kissing guys (aka, girl kissing is just as awesome and sexy and turns me on just as much as guy kissing does).
Becky kissed Joyce, and Joyce did not enjoy it. And I think it’s important to respect that.
everytime i post about being bi I get leslie, and everytime I post about something else/something rather cynical, I get sarah. Does the avatar chooser have a screening or something?
Taht’d be hilarous, but no.
There’s also the fact that Joyce has thought about the subject several times. If she isn’t into Becky, Dorothy, Sal or Billie it just isn’t going to happen.
Seriously, if one of them doesn’t do it for you, you have no interest in ladies. I mean, we’ve got Bad Girl Sal; Manic Pixie Girl Becky; Geek Goddess Dorothy; and Party Girl Billie. I find it hard to believe none of those would appeal to someone who had a potential interest in female partners.
I like how you’ve described the harem anime that is Joyce’s life.
She just needs to spend some time around Marcie.
Haven’t you learned yet that characters don’t get to be themselves, they only exist for the wish-fulfillment of shippers…
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Yeah, and while we’re at it, why can’t Ethan suddenly learn that he’s attracted to some women or vagina-havers? Oh thats right. People are always saying you don’t chose your sexuality. And that it’s wrong to try and change other peoples. Or wait, they just say that about homosexuals. Why the same respect isn’t extended towards heterosexuals is, of course, illogical. Saying that Joyce just needs a push to discover “her gay leanings” or whatever is just as rude as saying Ethan just needs a push to discover he’s actually straight or bi.
There just ain’t no justice.
Insert applause here.
That is a double standard, I actually think everyone needs a “push” sometimes, not out of lack of respect, but out of understanding enough of the human psyche to know that everyone can fall into the trap of repressing something so hard for random reasons that they themselves are completely unaware of. I simply don’t think anyone can be trusted to know themselves better than anyone else, myself included. Just don’t insist on anything that involve other people’s boundaries, and there’s a fine line between “suggesting” and “insisting”.
Danny did ( need a push ) . Thats why people say it.
and Joyce’s Femphilic tendencies were enough to fool Joyce and Walky, and even Joyce.
Joyce was afraid she would be bi ot gay ( often a sign one actually is ) and was astonished when Becky proved to her she was not.
Joyce actyually DID get a push and it led her to her true discovery ( despite her beliefs ) that she was purely Hetero .
I would have zero problems with Ethan having a drunken hetero fling , but apparently in this continuity he doesnt need it.
Hes just lucky his beard wanted to be chaste.
It would be easier if there was just a blood test.
I think conversations like this sometimes come up because it’s possible to identify as straight without ever questioning yourself or considering the alternatives. Even people who aren’t very happy with heterosexual relationships / attraction might not give it much thought. In contrast, people with any kind of non-majority sexuality probably had to realize that they were different from the societal standard, and probably had to take some shit for it as well. It’s much less likely that someone would identify as gay just because they’ve never given it any thought.
That said, I agree that you shouldn’t hassle people about their sexuality, period.
At the moment, all Joyce wants is the Z!
Nice
*Starts singing Dragon Ball Z theme…*
Ey man she has’t tried it yet she can’t know
Not really how it works for a lot of people.
That’s really not at all true. That’s like saying Ethan’s never tried it with a dude, how does he know he’s gay rather than being only into agender people, or being ace, or other options, you know?
… it’s been like a day, give her a break
Well its not going to get any better for her, it’ll only get worse
Not disputing this. If humans could just shut off their emotions, our lives would be way easier!
But seriously, just because it’s been months for us doesn’t mean it hasn’t been literally a day. It’s ridiculous to tell her to hurry up.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/feeling-our-way-to-decision-20090227-8k8v.html
Nah. Losing our emotions would, in fact, stunt our learning and decision-making ability, resulting in a planet of idiots (moreso than we already have, anyway).
This is why the robots haven’t overthrown us yet. We haven’t programmed them to feel like putting that kind of effort in.
I said shut off, not lose: as in, be able to turn on and off at will. I also meant selectively. Being able to just stop loving someone who was abusive for example would be pretty great.
It’s pretty hard to cut off your emotions like that. It’s been one day and the person that Becky likes hangs out with her 24/7. Becky actually wandered off alone for part of the day, probably because she needed some time where she wasn’t with her crush who she now knows she can’t be with. Give her some time!
I feel like every time I glance at the comments, there has to be someone interpreting Becky in the worst possible light. Just want to throw out there that there’s someone that’s been for her every step of the way. I find it easy to empathize with her pining. I’ll never understand why such a normal human mess of emotions warrants such harsh judgement. Rock on, Becky. Your epic saga of heartbreak and shit-stirring is just getting started.
Thats why (to me anyway) this comic is so good, everyone who reads it interprets it in their own way based on their own personal experiences which makes it interesting to read the comments
I try to remember that, but sometimes it just seems worth avoiding the comments altogether because you know it’s going to be filled with 101 Marys (sans the fundamentalism).
I’d say ‘101 Marys (fundamentalism optional)’.
I figure the reason is a poorly-understood comprehension of one’s innate adherence to heteronormativity. (Or, not everyone is fully past the “Joyce” stage of knowing the world.) I just shrug, understand that 10 people think 10 different ways, and hope for the best.
For me it’s largely due to the pace of the comic. Intellectually I know it’s only been one day and Becky mostly deserves to be cut a lot of slack, though she was still over the line several times, but it’s been stretched out so long that the obnoxious behaviour that ordinarily would have only been a few minutes have had time to eat away my sympathy.
That’s where my issues with Becky stem from as well. Looking at it from a wider perspective I understand that Becky is going through unimaginable hardship right now, so if she acted in any other way I think it’d be frankly unrealistic. However, as appropriate as it is, it’s still frustrating to read about a new character acting like a dick to long established characters, and she’s been doing it for months now.
I like Becky but I can also be frustrated with her without actually just sublimating a massive hatred for her haircut.
Pretty much. As Joyce said, Too Much Becky.
This about still wanting to be with Joyce or is it about hating yourself for intruding on her new life?
Can’t it be both?
I guess
Or feeling lonely because she was cut from school and fleed from her family. Joyce is pretty much all (she think) she has left, right now.
Also, all thing considered she has had a pretty good day. She could spend it with Joyce and come out as gay and have clean clothes and eat and shower and meet non-judgemental people and get a rad haircut.
But all those other things involving butthole dads and correction camps and homeless youths on the run without plans or money still lingers in the edge of her thoughts. Sometimes they sneak up on her, for example late at night when everyone else is sleeping.
Yay, new story time!
And there will be other girls, Becky – lesbians and bisexuals, specifically.
Nice ending panel.
It’s horrible but I really feel the need to make a sharing bed and shower joke. NOt sure why. but I can’t think of one so.
Hope you find a cute gal to flirt with Becky becks
Being in like with a straight friend is the worst. For me it really helped to just tell the friend so you can hear the “Umm, no” straight from the horse’s mouth, but I guess Becky’s still pretty beat up over it.
Reminder that it has been literally one (1) day.
Poor Becky. I hope she gets to the more bittersweet stage of an unrequited crush:
Unrequited love’s a bore / and I’ve got it pretty bad / but for someone you adore / it’s a pleasure to be saaaad
Get off my feels, Willis.
Sorry, Becky. Joyce has already told you that she’s just not that into you ‘that way’ — and all the wistful smiles and gentle touches of the shoulder in the world aren’t going to change that.
This last panel makes me think Becky’s gonna sneak away now.
I don’t think Becky is leaving, but it is something to think about.
This isn’t unrequited love: it is ‘never gonna happen love”.
Speaking of ankles: my grandmother was born in 1895 and wore knee length dresses with tights, and her hair down, until puberty. At which time she switched to ankle length dresses and her hair went upswept.
Getting into a horse drawn carriage, she had to stand on the stone by the curb that was there for that purpose: but was wearing a very tight long skirt. She was mad at her husband to be for some reason. She reached down and tore her skirt from the ankle to the knee and then climbed into the carriage.
When she told me this story, she said she shocked the other passengers so bad that a woman had to use her smelling salts to prevent herself from fainting.
Interesting mores then and now.
this is fascinating ^^
Your grandmother rocks
You know it’s a good story when it ends with someone using smelling salts to prevent fainting.
More proof you humans are an interesting bunch…
New storyline: Joyce gets a CPAP.
With or without a humidifier?
Don’t they all come with a humidifier?
Now whether or not she remembers to keep the tank filled, that’s another question.
No, they don’t all come with a humidifier.
Mine has a humidifier and if I didn’t use it, my mouth would end up as dry as the desert.
Three’s a Crowd: Becky, Joyce and Z.
Ah, I was wondering.
Yeah, can’t you see the tiny red ant from that movie too? 😛
I just thought she was annoyed that Joyce didn’t react to her touch at all, not an unrequited love thingy.
That’s a strange and super unforgiving way of interpreting Becky’s expression, the title of the comic, and the hovertext.
Unforgiving? Since when is mild annoyance at being unnoticed unforgiving?
I don’t know. The expression on Becky’s face doesn’t look like “poor Becky suffering through unrequited love” to me; it looks like she’s pissed that Joyce is so sound asleep that a touch to the shoulder brought absolutely no reaction whatsoever.
But this is not allowed. It’s unrequited. An unfortunate slight.
Is it just me….or did they turn the bed around? Thinking of the comic where Dorothy wants to go running…..and the wall was on the right side of the bed if you were laying in it……here its on the left? Am I just confused?
The wall is on the other side of the room. You can tell when Becky sits up, and the light doesn’t hit her.
Hmmm. As far as I can see you are right, unless we watch it from the perspective of the wall. Maybe they try out different ways to fit both of them in the bed?
The bed’s still in the same position, we just aren’t seeing the rest of the room or Sarah because they’re covered up by Becky and Joyce.
I think we’re seeing it from the wall.
you haven’t earned my sympathy yet, after being exceptionally obnoxious for the past couple weeks >_>
Stop being so tsundere, you know you care.
Side-eye for Becks. (Poor Becks.) (Yes, I do have some sympathy for her achey-breaky heart.)
Thought bubbles:
Panel 1: I can’t sleep.
Panel 2: Joyce.
Panel 3: You saved me, Joyce. You are the best thing in my life, right now.
Panel 4: I love you, Joyce.
Panel 5: Crap. Maybe my evening showers need to be colder.
Spot on.
Yep. Pretty much.
Panels 1 & 2 are reversed!
The only 1 I’d change would be
Panel 5: …But you’ll never love me the same way, will you..?
But still well done. 🙂
forgot to put that in the first post. My bad… 😛
Love, thankfulness and unrequited attraction via light touch.
TwT
Looks like cold shower time…..
squeeeeze.
She’s asleep! Quickly! CUDDLE HER ANYWAY!
Don’t be sad, everyone. Just view this strip in reverse.
That was oddly therapeutic
You must be a wizard.
Oh that helped, thanks.
So between more of my constant bongoing about Becky, I forgot to add that this is an extremely effective strip that basically perfectly encapsulates Becky’s current drama. It manages to run from a very soft, warm moment to crushing sadness in a single panel, all while emphasizing the torrent of emotion that Becky’s been forced into.
So, is Becky about to disappear into the night?
I wish.
Wow. I love how the first couple pages of comics are all about how Becky’s not being rapey enough to her best friend who has already been assaulted once. >_<
way to exaggerate
I was jokingly calling it an underachiever, didn’t say it was bad she didn’t try harder
*Comments, not comics, derp >_<
“Platonic best friend forever.” 🙂
“Unrequited love interest.” 🙁
this would be a great time to kiss her in her sleep.
When Joyce, whos already rejected her advances, can’t resist? Yep not creepy at all
Because that wouldn’t be unwanted sexual touching or anything…Pretty sure we have laws about such things.
I def don’t read the shoulder touch as coppin’ a feel. Or even really as showing affection. I read it as “You’re snoring and it’s keepin’ me up, so maybe if I gently shoulder-nudge you, you’ll shut up.”
But I guess the title “Unrequited” means there’s more feels here.