We don’t actually know with certainty whether Ruth identifies as Gay or Bi. She’d had one known relationship with a male in the WV that went badly, and in this continuity, she’s only really shown any interest in Billie (who she mentioned was her first “girl of interest” So at this point, she could be Gay, Bi, straight but gay for Billie, Billiesexual, etc…It’s a little silly to get territorial over it.
Billie is at the very least confirmed bi-curious – she tells Joyce that everyone is curious about being gay. But she was bisexual in Roomies, making her bisexual in the Dumbiverse too.
I actually forgot Billie was bi in the Walkyverse. Stands to reason she’d also be in this universe as well since Willis said everyone’s the same sexuality in response to all the Ethan comments.
I’m pretty sure that everyone who hates Danny does so due to envy. He is considerate, friendly, loyal, and patient, not to mention that he has had at least three attractive women pursuing him at various times. He behaves in an emotionally mature manner and has so far exhibited so few flaws that people feel the need to make them up whole cloth. And he’s doing this at an age that most of us were complete blinking idiots. Most of us can only aspire to be like Danny. And deep down, we all know it.
If you think Danny is considerate, you haven’t been paying much attention to Danny. Danny can’t be considerate of other people because Danny never actually engages with other people. He lives in a fantasy world that he’s built up in his head, and considers other people only insofar as they fit into the fantasy roles he’s cast them in.
There’s a reason that Dorothy dumped him. There’s a reason that he couldn’t figure out that Dorothy was dumping him even while she was doing it. There’s a reason that he refuses to consciously acknowledge Amazi-Girl’s identity even though he recognized her. There’s a reason that he was dating the fantasy Amber instead of the real one in the first place. These are all the same reason.
And when I was Danny’s age (lo these many moons ago), I was dating the only girl in CS in my year. And I knew her name.
Not sure if failing to recognize subtleties of communication from others makes you inconsiderate. Is it lack of attention or lack of empathy skills? He seems to want to do the right thing by people, he just doesn’t see them for who they are and what they want. He’s not connecting. Of course, there is also a prominent kind of a jerkass who totally does see the subtle hints and just chooses to ignore them when they don’t align with what he wants to see.
Well, you can’t be considerate of people if you don’t try to understand what they actually want and need so that you can, well, consider that. While it’s certainly debatable how much you can really blame someone for something they legitimately don’t understand, I’m more inclined to blame Danny for it than, say, Dina, because, while Dina understands even less, she’s willing, even eager, to accept correction when things are explained to her and attempts to revise her behaviour accordingly. Danny just digs in his heels and rejects anything that doesn’t comply with his fantasy – witness the whole breakup with Dorothy.
You mean the one where he tried to make any excuse to avoid the thing that he had placed all of his importance in?
Oh wow. What an inhuman monster. Surely the breakup was purely because he wasn’t perfect enough for Dorothy, and she is utterly infallible in her actions and choices of lovers.
I feel bad for Danny, honestly. Some of his qualities reminded me of me (although I connect to several characters) I think everyone seems to hate Danny because nobody here connects with his character.
Meh, you’re overreaching here. Yeah, Danny’s terrible, but his interactions with Dorothy since being dumped don’t indicate someone who believes he’s the main character of the story. Those assholes exist, and they almost always cast the ex- as a shrieking harpy who wanted our #bravehero to suffer.
Mind, this doesn’t make him considerate, but the way in which you cast that inconsiderate nature of his isn’t accurate. For the record Amber is also kinda hilariously fucked up, but she’s also actually amusing.
I don’t think John’s overreaching. You’re missing the fact that an important part of Danny’s fantasy is that “he’s a nice guy”. He doesn’t diss his ex because that’s not what nice guys do: he’d much rather pine tragically, then win her back in the third reel. This means he’s not a total asshole, but he’s still completely ignoring her wants and needs. You can’t call it considerate.
Yeah, in the face of joe attacking him, danny makes a bullshit, condescending excuse.
Which he -immediately- retracts. As projection Meaning, its nonsensical to point to that as evidence of him trying to portray himself as better than he is, or unable to care about others. He admitted the real reason he didn’t want to have sex before the conversation as over, and the condescending excuse _only_ came up as a vapid defense aginst joe’s bullshit judging of him, and was plainly not what he actually felt at the time. He omes off as overly focused on romance, not selfish or a mysoginist.
As for ambition, he plainly has one: to be with he woman he loves forever. Its not a class-based one like dorothy’s, but its stil plainly his goal, and its not that uncommon to have.
His time with amber? Vanilla friendship with the potential for romance. His time with. Amazigirl? A vanilla kink with a -real girl- who he still enjoys hanging out with. Beyond the sillinss involved in getting her attention in the first place, and deciding to play along for, what, three weeks? He’s doing basically the same stuff with her as he would have done with amber. He’s a romantic – he’s irrational, but I don’t see how it makes him the asshole people keep making him out to be, especially compared to the actually (often) malicious characters we see in this strip and everyone is rooting for.
He’s imperfect and a bit more cliche than the other archetypes in this comic, big whoop.
Never said he was casting himself as the main character of the story. In fact, with both Dorothy and Amazi-Girl, he cast himself in a decidedly secondary role. That doesn’t change that he’s casting his romantic interests in fantasy roles and reacting to his expectations of the fantasy rather than considering the real person.
He does, as Logician says, cast himself as heroic (and I can only imagine how he’s spinning his treatment of Amber at the bridge to make that the good, considerate, heroic way to have handled the situation), but that’s not the same thing as casting himself as the hero.
And, yeah, the only reason it worked as well as it did with Amazi-Girl is that Amber is also hilariously fucked up and living a fantasy, and her fantasy was congruent with Danny’s fantasy. But the reason it broke down so rapidly and angrily is that Amber doesn’t live entirely in the fantasy. She’s two different people, the real Amber and the fantasy Amazi-Girl, and the part of her that isn’t Amazi-Girl wasn’t willing to accept being cast as Clark Kent and being the eternal loser to her cooler (angry, violent, dangerous, broken) fantasy side.
‘Cause she’s not really Superman/Clark Kent. She’s Batman/Bruce Wayne, a broken person using her alter ego to offload all her anger and fear and pain so that she doesn’t have to carry it herself. And every time she pushes a chunk of her self over into Amazi-Girl, she comes a little closer to ending up like Bruce, just an empty husk that Batman sometimes wears as a disguise.
Considering that a realistic thing he said was exactly why Dorothy dumped him, there’s kind of an issue here. It’s definitely partially right, but not entirely.
(And, really, what kind of crappy metaphor is that band-aid thing? I hear it all the time, but the problem I’ve always had with band-aids is getting them to stay on. I usually have to duct tape them.)
That’s not a fantasy. That’s a mundane, reasonable expectation. It’s possibly wrong, and condescending, and terribly unsupportive, but if you want to paint Danny as someone who can’t maintain a realistic look at reality, “I don’t think you’ll actually maintain the drive to become president long enough to reach harvard” isn’t helping your case. Her ambitions *informed* his fantasy. Saying those ambitions wouldn’t last is saying *The fantasy won’t happen*. She can’t bang him in the Oval Office if she’s not the president.
Ah, there’s the disconnect. Dorothy being President wasn’t Danny’s fantasy. That’s Dorothy’s dream (which may not be realistic, but she’s making a real effort at it, which even in the likely case that she fails should leave her in a good position for a consolation prize). Danny’s fantasy was that it was twoo wuv and forever and wherever Dorothy went, whether that was the White House or the Waffle House, Danny would be right there at her side, updating her patches and banging her on her desk.
But Dorothy wasn’t really feeling that, and tried to subtly hint that to him. But subtle doesn’t work on Danny, and when she finally got blatant, and told him that if she went where she wanted to go, he couldn’t follow her, his response was to express his hope that she decided not to go where she wanted to and stayed there and played faithful lover and wife to him instead.
“… thinking love was more important than stupid Yale!”
In other words, “My fantasy is more important than your stupid fantasy!”
…being hurt that someone would choose ambition over being with you?
Are you kidding me? How completely fucking unrealistic to see a _teenager_ going the whole “I just want my beloved to be happy” route? You seriously think it can’t be love if there isn’t even a hint of wanting the person to be there with you in there?
As for Danny asking Dorothy to abandon his dreams — by your own definition, Dorothy was asking the same thing. At least Danny couched it in the hypothetical that if he perservered for her, she would change her mind. Not “give up”, but “reevaluate”.
“As well as the examples John gives, consider the encounter with Billie.”
If you mean the one where she was taking her top off, I remember that as him saying that there was a girl he liked and he wanted to be with her, instead of having a fling.
Defining a guy saying he’d rather not have vapid sex to a girl as somehow being callous to her out of self ego is just…wut.
“This is true love” is a very, very, VERY mundane fantasy, shared by thousands of people who have no business in it. When people talk about Danny’s desire for fantasies, they generally mean he has unrealistic, ABNORMAL fantasies.
What he said was condescending, insensitive, and dickish, but not particularly unrealistic (except inasmuch as saying it out loud was a stupid thing to do). Everything about his time with Amber *does* scream about unrealistic fantasies, but with Dorothy? Yeah, it’s unrealistic, but in the same way many people’s mundane hopes are unrealistic (And ‘This is true love’ is less of a fantasy than Dorothy’s desire to be president, Joyce’s thinking she’ll find a husband for her in college, everything Amber seems to cram into Amazi-girl, or Walky thinking he can get away with coasting forever).
And no, with Billie, he also explicitly characterized Billie as not knowing what she wanted, and being incapable of forming the decision to bang on her own. He ADMITS this was projection on his part. He explicitly ignores her feelings, is called on it by Joe, and concedes. I don’t have high standards here; it’s one thing to not want to sleep with her, and another to insist Billie does not either. It’s not just insensitive, it is, again, condescending.
Additionally, Dorothy didn’t ask him to give up any ambition except ultimately the ‘true love’ one, and THAT wasn’t until they broke up and she made it clear that was over. Danny didn’t HAVE ambitions; she can’t ask him to give them up.
Danny wants to be a good guy, he would hate to be thought selfish by anyone (especially himself), he sees himself as the hero of the story. But you’re being taken in by his own fantasy: his actions are not considerate of others, they are only considerate of his own image. As well as the examples John gives, consider the encounter with Billie. He completely ignored what she actually wanted or needed because he only saw things in terms of “how the hero should act”. Joe called him on it, and Joe was right, in spite of being so one-dimensional.
Hate is too strong a word, but my dislike of him is sharpened by the fear that maybe, at that age, I was a little bit like him.
He didn’t want to have sex with Billie, how can you people find something wrong with that!? He should have considered what Billie wanted? If I remember correctly he didn’t even knew who she was and even if he did it was his choice to have or not to have sex with her and both choices are ok, I don’t understand why everyone dislikes Danny so much, he is just an average guy.
No. It’s not that he didn’t want to have sex with her. It’s that he thought he knew what was right for Billie better than she did. He didn’t want to “take advantage of” someone who was not in a position to be taken advantage of, implying that he was doing her a favour by not sleeping with her like she wanted.
Now, if Danny had said “I don’t feel like I am in a position where casual sex is emotionally healthy FOR ME” he would be 100% in the right. (And yeah, Billie and Joe would impugn his masculinity, and they would be assholes for doing so.)
But instead he had to cast it as making a decision on HER behalf, because he knew what was good for her better than she did, which is pretty goddamn patronizing.
Or you could read the very next comic, where he admits he was making the first excuse that came to mind to cover for, you guessed it, that he wasn’t in a position where casual sex is emotionally healthy for him.
’cause, insomniac, he pretty much said those _exact words_ in the very next panel.
This is cherrypicking to a ridiculous extreme, guys. Yes, people make stupid excuses for their behavior when being attacked for their behavior. OHMYFUCKINGGAWD WHATASURPRISE.
He would but his asshole keeps threatening him every time he thinks of going.
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Let’s stop making abusive relationship related jokes, i have a feeling we’re both going to hell now.
*remembers that Joyce smashed a glass in a guy’s face*
But remember, Joyce was being roofied in an attempted date-rape and fortunately recognized it in time. I’m giving her a pass on this one. Ditto with Sarah; she was being a true wingman (wingwoman?) and she absolutely had Joyce’s six that time.
I’m not blaming Joyce. Or Sarah, or Amber. I’m just sayin’: Don’t fuck with the DoA ladies; they will cut you.
(Sarah does catch some blame for punching Raidah, which was at the very least an overreaction. But she knows she did wrong there, and has apologized for it.)
And I’m not blaming Ruth for being violent at Blaine.
Ruth and Billie, though, need to settle which of them is going to be the alpha bongo so they can get down to banging like they obviously want to. Either that or get a safe word.
Oh, and I didn’t even mention convenience-store-robber Sal before…
Ruth’s last comment reminds of that romance option with Kinzie from Saints Row IV in which if you ask for a fuck, she punchs you in the face become jumping your bones.
Willis has said that her vision, at this point in her life, just isn’t really all that bad, so she can get by without her glasses if she has to. Shortpacked! Amber is older, and her eyesight is worse.
I have a friend, one of the best SCA heavy fighters I know, who is very short-sighted and fights without his glasses. His take on it is, “When something comes into focus, either block it or hit it.” Seems to work for him; he was King of the East once.
I do my martial arts gradings without glasses too, but if I had contacts I’d wear them because you do miss subtle things when everything’s less in focus than you’re accustomed to. Also Amazi-Girl climbs buildings and whatnot. I wouldn’t do that without my glasses unless I had to. I wouldn’t even walking around on uneven terrain without them.
Interesting thing: while I was reading, my mouse was just over Billie’s wrist on Ruth’s shoulder and it turned into the little hand pointing up, so at first I thought Billie was touching Ruth’s chin oh so sweetly.
It’s kinda interesting how she goes from being all crossed arms and defensive (hopefully from guilt for drinking) to touching her (a girl that likes her). Not the first time she initiated casual contact with Ruth in her room either.
Woah. I always thought some webcomics didn’t make their images links just because they hadn’t bothered/thought about it, but that’s an actual reason to not do it!
It’s only been since iPhones got the new iOS that I’ve been able to see any hover text, so your hypothesis is probably true. In general I prefer links for ease of archive binging. I doubt it’d be too hard for them to make it so links with hover text show hove text AND the link destination.
Blaine is not going to go away, until someone kills him. He’s a total nutjob.
Billie slept in all right, to cover her hangover.
Gottawonder why these two haven’t faced the fact: you can’t trust a drunk.
Picard had the problem of trying to convince said omnipotent being that “mankind has evolved”; Sisko didn’t. Personally, I blame Roddenberry’s influence over the early TNG for writing Picard into a corner that way, and the later writers couldn’t reverse that decision because both Stewart and DeLancy liked the on-screen chemistry/drama it created.
Sisko went up big-time for me with that scene. 😉 (Mind, he was already pretty high up there…..)
I don’t Roddenberry was writing anyone into a corner. Too many other shows (including the original ‘Star Trek’) called for an all-out battle to resolve a problem; Kirk himself was never reluctant to use the phasers or photon torpedoes. The way Q outlined the problem — has mankind evolved beyond Neanderthal tendencies? — forces Picard to demonstrate superiority in ways other than “my gun’s bigger than yours”.
I think whoever came up with the character of Q — Roddenberry? Some unsung staff writer? De Lancie himself? — created him in a stroke of genius.
I am upset at you that none of you have drawn attention to the phrase “We can tag team her”.
I expected less of you guys!
Where’d all this morality come from!?
Such a fitting title, “Well past”. Kinda reminds me of how you’re WELL PAST teasing us with this Ruth/Billie ship, Willis! I can literally see the figurative champagne bottle in your hand, poised to break it over the bow. But it’s been like that for AGES.
Sadly, this of course validates Amber’s fears of getting unwanted attention because of her dad.
It’s going to get harder and harder for her to hide being Amazi-Girl the more socially active she becomes. I’m honestly surprised Dorothy hasn’t figured it out yet- I can only assume she’s too busy.
Okay, what the hell is “tsunder”? I keep seeing the term, but never get an explanation.
(Of course, if it’s a Japanese otaku loan-word like “yaoi” and “futanari”, that’s probably why I don’t follow it. “Gay sex” and “hermaphrodite” are long-time English; we didn’t even have manga when I was in high school, nor English-subtitled Japanese-audio anime….)
It is a japanese word derived from “tsun” meaning to be cold or hard and “dere” meaning to be soft or warm. So it refers to a person, usually female, who presents a hard face to the world, but is actually soft hearted.
Oh I think it is. He might eventually disagree, but by then I wouldn’t really care. The only question is how would Willis draw Blaine as a finely ground paste?
Shorts kinda ruin authority. It’s why Laharl switched to long pants in the latest Disgaea game. He’s trying to get people to take him seriously as Overlord.
Of course, Etna switched to shorts. Maybe it’s pants > shorts > miniskirt on the respectability chart? Where does that leave Flonne’s one-piece?
You have successfully reminded me of the copy of Disgaea I lost very recently. With sets of 3000-ish level characters (about 6,000 levels stored, iirc) and max-slot copies of most of the ultimate weapons.
Unless you’re playing the DS version, your data should save on the console or memory stick…
Ugh I still need to finish up Disgaea 1. I started and competed 2 partway through and it’s really emphasizing the flaws in the original with how exp is distributed with healers and whatnot.
Yeah, I have that problem. I love all the games, but whenever I go back to the old ones I’m like “Argh! How did I ever play this without Evilities/Monster Mounting/Skippable fight animations?!”
Well now I understand smarter ways of levelling up (Item World!) so at least I don’t have to slog through lower levels trying to grind new characters. Laharl kinda makes up for it too. He’s great.
BTW, kind of a dick move, Billie. Yes, Blaine did visit but only to act like a dick. Heck, Blaine is much bigger dick than Gendo…and that’s saying something.
Hey errybody! I’m planning on doing 1 or 2 pinups for Willis’ Pinup week.
Who would you like to see?
(I am merely testing the waters. If I don’t choose the one you want don’t be upset).
So apparently Amber didn’t get her nighttime sneaking abilities from her father. That, or Blaine should’ve had a supervillain costume. Maybe with a big T, for “Terri-Dad”!
Anyone else stop reading and blink a couple times after reading the first thing said in the last panel? I really couldn’t think of a way she could say that without meaning something sexual. Even in context it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Many better ways she could have said that.
How so? That’s how I read it too at first. Who says let’s tagteam someone and is referencing telling somebody something? If they had been thinking of talking to her separately first the tagteam idea would make more sense.
They are asking why they were the “only one who had an issue” with the phrasing, when like half a dozen people on this page have the same dirty mind. People who “had an issue” with the phrasing are everywhere. They’re impossible to miss. Seriously, read up like FIVE POSTS. FIVE WHOLE POSTS. SOMEONE ELSE WITH THE SAME CONCERN.
lol yes I am aware that’s me. (just realized you’re the creator though 😛 Love your work)I didn’t think you meant me on the first post. My mistake.
I get the feeling that you intended that line as such now since you know better than most how little it takes for people to think dirty things on the interwebs 🙂
It doesn’t have to but they weren’t talking about doing anything by themselves so I’m not sure where that line is coming from. Not that it isn’t obvious in context after finishing.
Its called subtext. Layers of meaning. Dare I say depth of writing. When the author is able to convey multiple meanings and insinuations with a phrase that might have more implications than the characters who said/heard the actual words might realize at that moment. I give Willis all the credit in the world. OBVIOUSLY neither Billie or Ruth are thinking conciously about sexy times. But that doesn’t mean Willis can’t throw in a little literary easter egg for us pervy readers.
I used to work for the security department at a division-3 school in Wisconsin as a dispatched/clerical support person. The actual officers on patrol were in fact sworn law officers with full arrest powers, were authorized to carry weapons, and were considered to be on a par with a regular State Patrol officer. In our case, anyway, should Blaine or anyone else been found in a University building or on campus after having been ordered to leave, he would have been “roughed, cuffed, and stuffed”, and be the County Jail overnight waiting to see a judge on Monday.
Blaine had been asked to leave by the RA, not by the campus police, and left upon being asked to do so. So the campus police would not have known that he had previously been asked to leave. In this case they would have taken him to the station, gotten his details, found out that he wasn’t a student and had no business on campus and given him a warning that if he got caught on campus again he’d get the full criminal trespassing treatment then cut him loose. Less paperwork that way, but his details would still be on file and the next time they caught him on campus he’d get the full treatment described.
“detoxing” from alcohol on your own can be deadly. Heroin detox can’t kill you but alcohol can. Seizures and worse require alcoholics to get medical help to stop drinking. Just stopping isn’t uncomfortable it’s deadly
that would be terrible, it would give him blackmail material on her. the last thing amber needs is for her dad to have any kind of power over her, especially as regards her coping mechanism.
At first, I thought Billia was wearing thigh-high black patent leather boots over jeans, then I realized it is much more plausibly black tights UNDER jean SHORTS.
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Finally, less family drama. Now we move on to the drunk lesbian drama.
But there is only one lesbian and one drunk…
One recovering alcoholic lesbian and one drunk bisexual.
Two bisexuals, one recovering one lying.
We don’t actually know with certainty whether Ruth identifies as Gay or Bi. She’d had one known relationship with a male in the WV that went badly, and in this continuity, she’s only really shown any interest in Billie (who she mentioned was her first “girl of interest” So at this point, she could be Gay, Bi, straight but gay for Billie, Billiesexual, etc…It’s a little silly to get territorial over it.
Willis has stated that neither are exclusively into girls, so Ruth is probably bisexual or pansexual.
Not that I don’t believe you, but I forget where they mention Billie is bi.
Billie is at the very least confirmed bi-curious – she tells Joyce that everyone is curious about being gay. But she was bisexual in Roomies, making her bisexual in the Dumbiverse too.
There was also the fact she offered to jump on top of Danny’s D back during the interview arc thing. Like, she likes dudes at least a little.
She was bi in Dumbiverse? How did I missed that? I guess I was too focused to wonder what on earth she did see in Danny.
Leaving aside the Walkyverse and all hints and speculation: Billie has attempted to kiss Sal, and jumped Danny.
Willis has said that Ruth is not exclusively lesbian, but Billie is the only person in either universe that she’s exhibited a definite attraction to.
I actually forgot Billie was bi in the Walkyverse. Stands to reason she’d also be in this universe as well since Willis said everyone’s the same sexuality in response to all the Ethan comments.
She also attempted to drunkenly mac on Sal.
“Hey, we can tag-team her.” is perhaps the best Billie quote ever.
My thoughts exactly!
“Okay, but THEN we make out, okay??”
And I’m pretty sure that the worst parent award still goes to Blaine.
I dunno. What about Danny’s parents. They brought DANNY into the world.
Yeah, but not necessarily on PURPOSE.
“SHUT UP! I HATE ALL OF YOU! I NEVER ASKED TO BE BORN! IF I HAD A GUN, I’D KILL ALL OF YOU!”
“I never asked for this…”
I think you just hate Danny because he reminds you of yourself. There’s no worse hate than self-hate.
I’m pretty sure that everyone who hates Danny does so due to envy. He is considerate, friendly, loyal, and patient, not to mention that he has had at least three attractive women pursuing him at various times. He behaves in an emotionally mature manner and has so far exhibited so few flaws that people feel the need to make them up whole cloth. And he’s doing this at an age that most of us were complete blinking idiots. Most of us can only aspire to be like Danny. And deep down, we all know it.
[comically aghast voice]Why, you! BLASPHEMER! HERETIC! Recant! Recant! Forswear Danny or be shunned![/comically aghast voice]
If you think Danny is considerate, you haven’t been paying much attention to Danny. Danny can’t be considerate of other people because Danny never actually engages with other people. He lives in a fantasy world that he’s built up in his head, and considers other people only insofar as they fit into the fantasy roles he’s cast them in.
There’s a reason that Dorothy dumped him. There’s a reason that he couldn’t figure out that Dorothy was dumping him even while she was doing it. There’s a reason that he refuses to consciously acknowledge Amazi-Girl’s identity even though he recognized her. There’s a reason that he was dating the fantasy Amber instead of the real one in the first place. These are all the same reason.
And when I was Danny’s age (lo these many moons ago), I was dating the only girl in CS in my year. And I knew her name.
Be like Danny. Gods forbid.
Not sure if failing to recognize subtleties of communication from others makes you inconsiderate. Is it lack of attention or lack of empathy skills? He seems to want to do the right thing by people, he just doesn’t see them for who they are and what they want. He’s not connecting. Of course, there is also a prominent kind of a jerkass who totally does see the subtle hints and just chooses to ignore them when they don’t align with what he wants to see.
Well, you can’t be considerate of people if you don’t try to understand what they actually want and need so that you can, well, consider that. While it’s certainly debatable how much you can really blame someone for something they legitimately don’t understand, I’m more inclined to blame Danny for it than, say, Dina, because, while Dina understands even less, she’s willing, even eager, to accept correction when things are explained to her and attempts to revise her behaviour accordingly. Danny just digs in his heels and rejects anything that doesn’t comply with his fantasy – witness the whole breakup with Dorothy.
You mean the one where he tried to make any excuse to avoid the thing that he had placed all of his importance in?
Oh wow. What an inhuman monster. Surely the breakup was purely because he wasn’t perfect enough for Dorothy, and she is utterly infallible in her actions and choices of lovers.
Give me a fucking break.
I feel bad for Danny, honestly. Some of his qualities reminded me of me (although I connect to several characters) I think everyone seems to hate Danny because nobody here connects with his character.
Meh, you’re overreaching here. Yeah, Danny’s terrible, but his interactions with Dorothy since being dumped don’t indicate someone who believes he’s the main character of the story. Those assholes exist, and they almost always cast the ex- as a shrieking harpy who wanted our #bravehero to suffer.
Mind, this doesn’t make him considerate, but the way in which you cast that inconsiderate nature of his isn’t accurate. For the record Amber is also kinda hilariously fucked up, but she’s also actually amusing.
I don’t think John’s overreaching. You’re missing the fact that an important part of Danny’s fantasy is that “he’s a nice guy”. He doesn’t diss his ex because that’s not what nice guys do: he’d much rather pine tragically, then win her back in the third reel. This means he’s not a total asshole, but he’s still completely ignoring her wants and needs. You can’t call it considerate.
Empirical evidence indicates that griping is exactly what nice guys do. Also, I explicitly said he is inconsiderate.
Yeah, in the face of joe attacking him, danny makes a bullshit, condescending excuse.
Which he -immediately- retracts. As projection Meaning, its nonsensical to point to that as evidence of him trying to portray himself as better than he is, or unable to care about others. He admitted the real reason he didn’t want to have sex before the conversation as over, and the condescending excuse _only_ came up as a vapid defense aginst joe’s bullshit judging of him, and was plainly not what he actually felt at the time. He omes off as overly focused on romance, not selfish or a mysoginist.
As for ambition, he plainly has one: to be with he woman he loves forever. Its not a class-based one like dorothy’s, but its stil plainly his goal, and its not that uncommon to have.
His time with amber? Vanilla friendship with the potential for romance. His time with. Amazigirl? A vanilla kink with a -real girl- who he still enjoys hanging out with. Beyond the sillinss involved in getting her attention in the first place, and deciding to play along for, what, three weeks? He’s doing basically the same stuff with her as he would have done with amber. He’s a romantic – he’s irrational, but I don’t see how it makes him the asshole people keep making him out to be, especially compared to the actually (often) malicious characters we see in this strip and everyone is rooting for.
He’s imperfect and a bit more cliche than the other archetypes in this comic, big whoop.
He doesn’t even think he’s the main character of the story!
He’s f***ing Silver Age LOIS LANE.
Never said he was casting himself as the main character of the story. In fact, with both Dorothy and Amazi-Girl, he cast himself in a decidedly secondary role. That doesn’t change that he’s casting his romantic interests in fantasy roles and reacting to his expectations of the fantasy rather than considering the real person.
He does, as Logician says, cast himself as heroic (and I can only imagine how he’s spinning his treatment of Amber at the bridge to make that the good, considerate, heroic way to have handled the situation), but that’s not the same thing as casting himself as the hero.
And, yeah, the only reason it worked as well as it did with Amazi-Girl is that Amber is also hilariously fucked up and living a fantasy, and her fantasy was congruent with Danny’s fantasy. But the reason it broke down so rapidly and angrily is that Amber doesn’t live entirely in the fantasy. She’s two different people, the real Amber and the fantasy Amazi-Girl, and the part of her that isn’t Amazi-Girl wasn’t willing to accept being cast as Clark Kent and being the eternal loser to her cooler (angry, violent, dangerous, broken) fantasy side.
‘Cause she’s not really Superman/Clark Kent. She’s Batman/Bruce Wayne, a broken person using her alter ego to offload all her anger and fear and pain so that she doesn’t have to carry it herself. And every time she pushes a chunk of her self over into Amazi-Girl, she comes a little closer to ending up like Bruce, just an empty husk that Batman sometimes wears as a disguise.
Considering that a realistic thing he said was exactly why Dorothy dumped him, there’s kind of an issue here. It’s definitely partially right, but not entirely.
Rather, the realistic thing was the proximate cause. It was deeper than one condescending comment.
I got the impression that Dorothy had been trying to subtly hint around the breakup for a while, but the thing that finally convinced her to just rip the band-aid off was Danny expressing his expectation that Dorothy would abandon her own dreams and ambitions in order to comply with his fantasy.
(And, really, what kind of crappy metaphor is that band-aid thing? I hear it all the time, but the problem I’ve always had with band-aids is getting them to stay on. I usually have to duct tape them.)
That’s not a fantasy. That’s a mundane, reasonable expectation. It’s possibly wrong, and condescending, and terribly unsupportive, but if you want to paint Danny as someone who can’t maintain a realistic look at reality, “I don’t think you’ll actually maintain the drive to become president long enough to reach harvard” isn’t helping your case. Her ambitions *informed* his fantasy. Saying those ambitions wouldn’t last is saying *The fantasy won’t happen*. She can’t bang him in the Oval Office if she’s not the president.
Ah, there’s the disconnect. Dorothy being President wasn’t Danny’s fantasy. That’s Dorothy’s dream (which may not be realistic, but she’s making a real effort at it, which even in the likely case that she fails should leave her in a good position for a consolation prize). Danny’s fantasy was that it was twoo wuv and forever and wherever Dorothy went, whether that was the White House or the Waffle House, Danny would be right there at her side, updating her patches and banging her on her desk.
But Dorothy wasn’t really feeling that, and tried to subtly hint that to him. But subtle doesn’t work on Danny, and when she finally got blatant, and told him that if she went where she wanted to go, he couldn’t follow her, his response was to express his hope that she decided not to go where she wanted to and stayed there and played faithful lover and wife to him instead.
“… thinking love was more important than stupid Yale!”
In other words, “My fantasy is more important than your stupid fantasy!”
That’s not love, Danny.
…being hurt that someone would choose ambition over being with you?
Are you kidding me? How completely fucking unrealistic to see a _teenager_ going the whole “I just want my beloved to be happy” route? You seriously think it can’t be love if there isn’t even a hint of wanting the person to be there with you in there?
As for Danny asking Dorothy to abandon his dreams — by your own definition, Dorothy was asking the same thing. At least Danny couched it in the hypothetical that if he perservered for her, she would change her mind. Not “give up”, but “reevaluate”.
“As well as the examples John gives, consider the encounter with Billie.”
If you mean the one where she was taking her top off, I remember that as him saying that there was a girl he liked and he wanted to be with her, instead of having a fling.
Defining a guy saying he’d rather not have vapid sex to a girl as somehow being callous to her out of self ego is just…wut.
Seriously, wut.
“This is true love” is a very, very, VERY mundane fantasy, shared by thousands of people who have no business in it. When people talk about Danny’s desire for fantasies, they generally mean he has unrealistic, ABNORMAL fantasies.
What he said was condescending, insensitive, and dickish, but not particularly unrealistic (except inasmuch as saying it out loud was a stupid thing to do). Everything about his time with Amber *does* scream about unrealistic fantasies, but with Dorothy? Yeah, it’s unrealistic, but in the same way many people’s mundane hopes are unrealistic (And ‘This is true love’ is less of a fantasy than Dorothy’s desire to be president, Joyce’s thinking she’ll find a husband for her in college, everything Amber seems to cram into Amazi-girl, or Walky thinking he can get away with coasting forever).
And no, with Billie, he also explicitly characterized Billie as not knowing what she wanted, and being incapable of forming the decision to bang on her own. He ADMITS this was projection on his part. He explicitly ignores her feelings, is called on it by Joe, and concedes. I don’t have high standards here; it’s one thing to not want to sleep with her, and another to insist Billie does not either. It’s not just insensitive, it is, again, condescending.
Additionally, Dorothy didn’t ask him to give up any ambition except ultimately the ‘true love’ one, and THAT wasn’t until they broke up and she made it clear that was over. Danny didn’t HAVE ambitions; she can’t ask him to give them up.
Danny wants to be a good guy, he would hate to be thought selfish by anyone (especially himself), he sees himself as the hero of the story. But you’re being taken in by his own fantasy: his actions are not considerate of others, they are only considerate of his own image. As well as the examples John gives, consider the encounter with Billie. He completely ignored what she actually wanted or needed because he only saw things in terms of “how the hero should act”. Joe called him on it, and Joe was right, in spite of being so one-dimensional.
Hate is too strong a word, but my dislike of him is sharpened by the fear that maybe, at that age, I was a little bit like him.
He didn’t want to have sex with Billie, how can you people find something wrong with that!? He should have considered what Billie wanted? If I remember correctly he didn’t even knew who she was and even if he did it was his choice to have or not to have sex with her and both choices are ok, I don’t understand why everyone dislikes Danny so much, he is just an average guy.
No. It’s not that he didn’t want to have sex with her. It’s that he thought he knew what was right for Billie better than she did. He didn’t want to “take advantage of” someone who was not in a position to be taken advantage of, implying that he was doing her a favour by not sleeping with her like she wanted.
“But what if she thinks it’s a bad decision later?” Danny asks, but what he really did was take away her ability to make that decision for herself.
Now, if Danny had said “I don’t feel like I am in a position where casual sex is emotionally healthy FOR ME” he would be 100% in the right. (And yeah, Billie and Joe would impugn his masculinity, and they would be assholes for doing so.)
But instead he had to cast it as making a decision on HER behalf, because he knew what was good for her better than she did, which is pretty goddamn patronizing.
Or you could read the very next comic, where he admits he was making the first excuse that came to mind to cover for, you guessed it, that he wasn’t in a position where casual sex is emotionally healthy for him.
’cause, insomniac, he pretty much said those _exact words_ in the very next panel.
This is cherrypicking to a ridiculous extreme, guys. Yes, people make stupid excuses for their behavior when being attacked for their behavior. OHMYFUCKINGGAWD WHATASURPRISE.
I am Danny’s age, and I can tell you, I’m not very envious of him.
Danny also doesn’t remind me of myself. Are you calling me Danny? What an insult!
Also, who said I hate Danny?
No contest. Blaine wins. His prize is a lifetime supply of groin kicks.
more like a DEATHtime supply !!!
…eh? EH??
1.) A fantastic idea.
2.) I love how your gravatar has Amber either proposing the idea or approving of it.
thanks I cropped it myself, ahhhh I love Amber so much!!
*slow clap*
Groin kicks followed by multiple elbow drops to the balls.
Some of the other parents are in ways almost worse because their abuse is less obviously horrific. Like Ethan’s and Sal’s.
Heck, dude trumps Gendo Ikari.
Hey now let’s not get ahead of ourselves
I’m not sure they’ve thought this plan through well enough. If she punches Billie, what willAmazi-girl do?
Vanish mysteriously into the night?
Inverted Takedown?
German suplex?
The moss-covered three-handled family gredunza?
ARMBAR
Number 2: Armdrag.
Illudium Pu-36 Explosive Space Modulator. At last.
Oh hai it’s the only wrestling bit I know 😀
Well, one of the only two.
“INDEED” – 船木
But you see, Ruth is Amazi *is shot*
I never…even…understood…that joke…
That last panel pretty much sums up their whole relationship doesn’t it?
Their ship the USS Tsundere is one heck of a battleship.
I’ve seen ships come and go, but this ship looks tough enough to live a long life.
Partially because it’s the most complex.
Is it Rubix Cube complex? Or Code Lyoko Sector 5 complex?
Okay 2 things:
1. Points on Code Lyoko reference
2. Code Lyoko Sector 5 ain’t got shit on Billie X Ruth
XANA ever wants to defeat those quirky kids, all it has to do is make them navigate through a simulation of these two’s emotions.
THEY WON’T MAKE IT OUT ALIVE.
It’d probably disable Amber first so she can’t save them.
It’d be all too easy for it too: just kill all her gaming devices. OHKO.
I-it’s not like I w-wanted to s-sink you, b-baka~
Uh oh. Hopefully the police have actually nabbed Blaine this time. I’m thinking he could be actual trouble.
The abusive asshole might be actual trouble?
You should see a doctor about that.
He would but his asshole keeps threatening him every time he thinks of going.
…
Let’s stop making abusive relationship related jokes, i have a feeling we’re both going to hell now.
No, wait, just me. I’m too sleep deprived and stressed to use proper moral judgment when trying to construct humor.
Well, I mean legitimate-danger trouble, not asshole-behavior trouble.
We’ve yet to see if Blaine is just talk in this universe or not.
Blaine’s clearly not just talk. His problem is that he happened to pick the two most violent girls in the dorm to get physical on.
*remembers that Billie threw the first punch against Ruth*
Uh, two of the three most violent girls in the dorm…
*remembers that Joyce smashed a glass in a guy’s face*
Uh, two of the four…
*remembers that Sarah took a bat to the guy after that*
Uh… yeah, he should just cut his losses while he’s still got all his parts attached. You don’t fuck with the DoA ladies.
Welcome to Clark Wing, our primary export is PAIN.
Primary import is emotional issues!
I’ve been trying to think of who do we know that lives in Clark Wing and hasn’t been violent.
So far, that list is “Dorothy”.
Dina (unless rope traps count). Sierra. Roz. Mary. Agatha. Mandy. Grace. Rachel.
I think somewhere around Agatha that list stops being “people we know”, though.
Welcome to the dorm of pain.
Dorm of Pain, the new wrestling pay-per-view.
“Dina (unless rope traps count). Sierra. Roz. Mary. Agatha. Mandy. Grace. Rachel.”
Roz got violent (with Joe’s penis)
I wish we could have seen Dina actually tying up Faz, I’m sure violence and possible dinosaur noise imitations were involved.
*remembers that Joyce smashed a glass in a guy’s face*
But remember, Joyce was being roofied in an attempted date-rape and fortunately recognized it in time. I’m giving her a pass on this one. Ditto with Sarah; she was being a true wingman (wingwoman?) and she absolutely had Joyce’s six that time.
Joyce joined Mike in beating up Joe after Joe checked out the waitress (Conquest).
I’m not blaming Joyce. Or Sarah, or Amber. I’m just sayin’: Don’t fuck with the DoA ladies; they will cut you.
(Sarah does catch some blame for punching Raidah, which was at the very least an overreaction. But she knows she did wrong there, and has apologized for it.)
And I’m not blaming Ruth for being violent at Blaine.
Ruth and Billie, though, need to settle which of them is going to be the alpha bongo so they can get down to banging like they obviously want to. Either that or get a safe word.
Oh, and I didn’t even mention convenience-store-robber Sal before…
Noooo, they don’t get a “pass,” their awesome efforts get ACCOLADES!
Well, he tried to attack Ruth, and only left when he realized that he didn’t want a fight with campus security.
Trying to imagine what would happen if instead, Amazi-girl caught him trying to sneak on campus.
Ruth’s last comment reminds of that romance option with Kinzie from Saints Row IV in which if you ask for a fuck, she punchs you in the face become jumping your bones.
I kinda liked that……don’t know why exactly.
Cos deep down, you knew that Kinzie was a tsundere with a capital TSUN.
Cuz deep down we all like a good face punching before bone jumping.
No, it’s not the Tsundere part. I sorta have a thing for asskicking women in glasses…I guess.
You like to kick the ass of girls wearing glasses? 😛 KINKY!
No, I prefer women who kicked ass…and wear glasses. But that sorta worked too.
I like ass kicking women in general. Especially wearing modest clothing.
Me too. And I don’t really care what they are wearing as long as they kick ass.
Amber’s here to kick ass and wear glasses.
And as Amazi-Girl, she’s not wearing her glasses.
Prescription mask, maybe?
A campus night vigilante must be prepared.
Clark Kent wears glasses but doesn’t need them. Maybe it’s the same with Amazi-Girl.
Willis has said that her vision, at this point in her life, just isn’t really all that bad, so she can get by without her glasses if she has to. Shortpacked! Amber is older, and her eyesight is worse.
I have a friend, one of the best SCA heavy fighters I know, who is very short-sighted and fights without his glasses. His take on it is, “When something comes into focus, either block it or hit it.” Seems to work for him; he was King of the East once.
I do my martial arts gradings without glasses too, but if I had contacts I’d wear them because you do miss subtle things when everything’s less in focus than you’re accustomed to. Also Amazi-Girl climbs buildings and whatnot. I wouldn’t do that without my glasses unless I had to. I wouldn’t even walking around on uneven terrain without them.
Interesting thing: while I was reading, my mouse was just over Billie’s wrist on Ruth’s shoulder and it turned into the little hand pointing up, so at first I thought Billie was touching Ruth’s chin oh so sweetly.
It’s kinda interesting how she goes from being all crossed arms and defensive (hopefully from guilt for drinking) to touching her (a girl that likes her). Not the first time she initiated casual contact with Ruth in her room either.
Billie crosses her arms like that because it helps hold up her massive mammaries.
This is probably true.
As the owner of massive mammaries myself, I do not recommend this strategy.
Perfect gravatar.
I’m not sure but what she’s doing that to create extra bonus cleavage, consciously or unconsciously.
“Shh, no beers, only lesbians now”
*reads my own comment*
CLOSE ENOUGH
God they are the greatest and they make me so happy. Can someone tell me what the alt text is for today so I can go back to sleep?
The alt text is, “Billie offers a unique sort of ‘help’.”
Does your browser prevent you from seeing it? It’s:
billie offers a unique sort of ‘help’
Thanks, both of you.
I’m just on my phone. Usually I can see hover text but because DoA strips are links I can’t.
Woah. I always thought some webcomics didn’t make their images links just because they hadn’t bothered/thought about it, but that’s an actual reason to not do it!
It’s only been since iPhones got the new iOS that I’ve been able to see any hover text, so your hypothesis is probably true. In general I prefer links for ease of archive binging. I doubt it’d be too hard for them to make it so links with hover text show hove text AND the link destination.
JUST F*** ALREADY!!!
Just as long as they use protection *gives Ruth a boxing glove and Billie a mouthguard*
Well that escalated quickly.
It’s that sort of relationship.
“Fight” has five letters.
Fist has four…. 😉
The paaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blaine is not going to go away, until someone kills him. He’s a total nutjob.
Billie slept in all right, to cover her hangover.
Gottawonder why these two haven’t faced the fact: you can’t trust a drunk.
Jail tiiime, jail tiiiiiiiiime, JA-IL TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME!
Here’s the jail
It never fails…
Ok, it might, but it’d at least slow him down.
Hello dad! I’m in jail!
Ruth is too self-aware not to know. Billie’s clueless on that score.
Of course it will be Ruth. Ruth is like the Sisko of Dumbing of Age.
“Hi there!”
*PAWNCH*
Ah, Captain Sisko. The only dude who could get away with decking an omnipotent being.
To be fair, he’s the only one who tried.
If only Picard had known it was that simple. . .
Picard had the problem of trying to convince said omnipotent being that “mankind has evolved”; Sisko didn’t. Personally, I blame Roddenberry’s influence over the early TNG for writing Picard into a corner that way, and the later writers couldn’t reverse that decision because both Stewart and DeLancy liked the on-screen chemistry/drama it created.
Sisko went up big-time for me with that scene. 😉 (Mind, he was already pretty high up there…..)
I don’t Roddenberry was writing anyone into a corner. Too many other shows (including the original ‘Star Trek’) called for an all-out battle to resolve a problem; Kirk himself was never reluctant to use the phasers or photon torpedoes. The way Q outlined the problem — has mankind evolved beyond Neanderthal tendencies? — forces Picard to demonstrate superiority in ways other than “my gun’s bigger than yours”.
I think whoever came up with the character of Q — Roddenberry? Some unsung staff writer? De Lancie himself? — created him in a stroke of genius.
Wait, Blaine tried to sneak in? DOUBLE THE SECURITY, DIG UP THE MOAT AND FILLED IT WITH CROCODILE WITH LASERS AND MISSILES!
What if they all cancel each other out.?
They will not. I’m sure of it.
But what if they have a wheelbarrow and a holocaust cloak?
Wow Galasso also runs a security company now?
IU’s security consists of hamsters wielding cannons. They are surprisingly effective.
You forgot the landmines. Fortunately, so did Blaine.
That way, when he tries to take amber away, he wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. 😀
Also machineguns. We need lots and lots of machineguns. Let see Blaine try to get past now.
Cool! You mean that I actually have frickin’ sharks with frickin’ laser beams attached to their frickin’ heads?
Drop him into this pit full of man-eating alligators and cows!
Why cows?
Man-eating cows have a finely honed sense of right and wrong, for barnyard animals.
Drop him into the PIT OF DESPAIR!
Along with TEN THOUSAND DIRE CHICKENS!
I am upset at you that none of you have drawn attention to the phrase “We can tag team her”.
I expected less of you guys!
Where’d all this morality come from!?
Makes sense, Billie wanted herself and Ruth to neg Amber so she would be more receptive to their lustful advances.
Neg? More like peg.
When lesbians follow “The Rules”, successful negging will lead to pegging.
Nah, it just leads to women being assholes and getting nothing done.
http://yusaku777.tumblr.com/post/66162956135/really-i-think-we-all-stopped-reading-at-that I’ve been waiting for Willis to reblog this, personally.
NIIIICE! ^_^
The best.
You win all the internets.
Too obvious, that is for beginners. We only go for the subtle stuff.
Such a fitting title, “Well past”. Kinda reminds me of how you’re WELL PAST teasing us with this Ruth/Billie ship, Willis! I can literally see the figurative champagne bottle in your hand, poised to break it over the bow. But it’s been like that for AGES.
You could say…
Dumbing…of Ages.
Numbing of Ages.
Sadly, this of course validates Amber’s fears of getting unwanted attention because of her dad.
It’s going to get harder and harder for her to hide being Amazi-Girl the more socially active she becomes. I’m honestly surprised Dorothy hasn’t figured it out yet- I can only assume she’s too busy.
Well, if it’s just Ruth telling her about the security issue it wouldn’t be a big deal. Billie’s idea – not so great.
Less sadly, it also validates Ethan’s theory about other girls being sympathetic towards her.
Wait, who are they talking about again?
I got distracted by Billie’s awesome curves :3
You know, I do have something against tsunderes….but this is the only exception.
Okay, what the hell is “tsunder”? I keep seeing the term, but never get an explanation.
(Of course, if it’s a Japanese otaku loan-word like “yaoi” and “futanari”, that’s probably why I don’t follow it. “Gay sex” and “hermaphrodite” are long-time English; we didn’t even have manga when I was in high school, nor English-subtitled Japanese-audio anime….)
A women who is constantly moody, and can’t admit her love for someone. It comes from anime.
Nah, guys can be tsundere.
It is a Japanese word, meaning someone who acts both hot and cold.
It is a japanese word derived from “tsun” meaning to be cold or hard and “dere” meaning to be soft or warm. So it refers to a person, usually female, who presents a hard face to the world, but is actually soft hearted.
…tagteam her, huh? Hmm.
Oh, come on! All it means that they fight….on second thought, pass the popcorn.
Come clean Billie!
I’m in, but how shall we do it? I mean, are we talking a sponge bath deal here, or just grab the firehose from the hall and get it over with quickly?
We’ll do it ‘bad Gary’ style.
No…we’ll do it “The Krusty Plate” style.
Looking for amber at night is probably not the best time to try find her, or is it?
Oh I think it is. He might eventually disagree, but by then I wouldn’t really care. The only question is how would Willis draw Blaine as a finely ground paste?
@Jack Finch – Every time you post something I hear it in the voice of a slightly posh 12-year-old English schoolboy.
I do not have a problem with this. Just informing you.
Even Ruth can’t look badass in overall shorts.
Shorts kinda ruin authority. It’s why Laharl switched to long pants in the latest Disgaea game. He’s trying to get people to take him seriously as Overlord.
Of course, Etna switched to shorts. Maybe it’s pants > shorts > miniskirt on the respectability chart? Where does that leave Flonne’s one-piece?
But shorts are comfortable and easy to wear.
If you’re a Youngster, sure, but all Cooltrainers wear pants. At least, the male ones do.
You have successfully reminded me of the copy of Disgaea I lost very recently. With sets of 3000-ish level characters (about 6,000 levels stored, iirc) and max-slot copies of most of the ultimate weapons.
I am now incredibly sad.
Unless you’re playing the DS version, your data should save on the console or memory stick…
Ugh I still need to finish up Disgaea 1. I started and competed 2 partway through and it’s really emphasizing the flaws in the original with how exp is distributed with healers and whatnot.
Yeah, I have that problem. I love all the games, but whenever I go back to the old ones I’m like “Argh! How did I ever play this without Evilities/Monster Mounting/Skippable fight animations?!”
Well now I understand smarter ways of levelling up (Item World!) so at least I don’t have to slog through lower levels trying to grind new characters. Laharl kinda makes up for it too. He’s great.
It’s worse going from Valkyria Chronicles II to the original because I miss my armoured techs so much… I guess snipers almost make up for it.
BTW, kind of a dick move, Billie. Yes, Blaine did visit but only to act like a dick. Heck, Blaine is much bigger dick than Gendo…and that’s saying something.
Enough with the dick-measuring! A dick is a dick, gentlemen!
I’m helping.
Billy’s comment is a bit unnerving considering the Walkyverse.
And then they had an epic snogging. The End.
Better than an Epic flogging.
but only barely.
Or an epic clogging.
Super Toilet…why…
Ruth’s Canadian, for epic logging.
and if we don’t stop their rule, there will be epic sogging
Hey errybody! I’m planning on doing 1 or 2 pinups for Willis’ Pinup week.
Who would you like to see?
(I am merely testing the waters. If I don’t choose the one you want don’t be upset).
Anything with Billie is find by me. Heck, do double Billies.
Aizat just scored like…20 Yoto points.
So how many points do I get for suggesting Yotomoe + Billie?
0.
Yotomoe is fat and ugly and doesn’t like drawing himself and maybe has body image issues.
How about Billie reading a Billie magazine with cheerleading tips from Billie?
Is that a euphamism gor her bewbs?
By the way, as a sign of modern language and internet influence, “bewbs” comes up as a valid autocorrect option. Make of that what you will.
Billie
Billie x Ruth
Danny.
…or Amber. I suppose.
Sierra dominatrix. So let it be written. So let it be done.
You had me at Sierra.
And lost me at Dominatrix…
Maybe a nice Bettie Page look?
Do dominatrix Joyce. Don’t care who’s with her.
I find myself allured and repulsed.Yayrgh!
Sal and Jason (the math TA) in post-coital cooldown. Would Jason have had time to remove his tie?
Or Joe and Roz done as if it were a montage of frame grabs from the video that got leaked.
Jocelyn…
Also, what’s her name?, at the mail desk…
Asma.
I only know because I read the tags. Her name has never actually been mentioned in the strip.
Since when is past noon not considered morning?
Since the conceptualization of the measurement of time.
Since a majority of people wake up before noon.
Who are these people and what the hell were they thinking?
“Gee, I sure hope I get to work on time so I can afford to pay for things.”
“Time to go eat breakfast?”
Blaine REALLY wants revenge, the bastard. I hope he doesn’t try to nail her when she is out of the dorm.
Blaine is the most dangerous of all the terrible parents.
Billie offers a “unique” sort of help, huh? Do tell.
I have a particular set of skills.
I will find you…and I will drink you.
(Billie, talking to her beers.)
Billie: The Beer Whisperer.
It always tells her the same thing, “I want to get inside you”.
Ruth wants the same thing.
As does Joyce, and hopefully Dina.
So apparently Amber didn’t get her nighttime sneaking abilities from her father. That, or Blaine should’ve had a supervillain costume. Maybe with a big T, for “Terri-Dad”!
Terribl-Aine.
Perfect
wasn’t Amazi-girl out last night? Maybe she’ll already know an it won’t be so bad?
Wait how did they catch her dad but not Amazi-girl herself??? How bumbling is this guy?
He fell into the Burmese Tiger Trap…filled with mutant cyborg tigers.
He stepped into a rake. He stumbled backwards into a rake. This continued on for 20 minutes before campus security spotted him.
Eh, it’s funnier when Batman does it.
What isn’t funnier when Batman does it?
I tried to think what’s not funny when Batman does it and I came up with 40. One of which being Batman with a bucket on his head.
You’re sorely mistaken because that’s hilarious.
Well, yeah. It’s not funny…it’s hilarious!
Anything that’s super-serious. For super-serious stuff, you need to have a goofy character to do it. Otherwise it doesn’t violate expectations.
Batman beating up muggers isn’t funny. Daffy Duck beating up muggers is funny.
What, like Jon Arbuckle?
Amazi-Girl is just that amazing.
Anyone else stop reading and blink a couple times after reading the first thing said in the last panel? I really couldn’t think of a way she could say that without meaning something sexual. Even in context it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Many better ways she could have said that.
You have a funny definition of “better”.
Lol took me a sec to get that. Very true!
Oh Billie. Your heart is in the right place, but your brain is in the bottle you lied about not drinking.
I enjoy the light humor thats being tossed around while all the shit that has hit the fan is in need of cleaning
… why am i the only one that had an issue with “we’ll tag team her”…
Well, if you’d read anything else on the page, you’d realize that your premise is faulty.
How so? That’s how I read it too at first. Who says let’s tagteam someone and is referencing telling somebody something? If they had been thinking of talking to her separately first the tagteam idea would make more sense.
*pinches bridge of nose*
No.
They are asking why they were the “only one who had an issue” with the phrasing, when like half a dozen people on this page have the same dirty mind. People who “had an issue” with the phrasing are everywhere. They’re impossible to miss. Seriously, read up like FIVE POSTS. FIVE WHOLE POSTS. SOMEONE ELSE WITH THE SAME CONCERN.
AND IT’S YOU.
lol yes I am aware that’s me. (just realized you’re the creator though 😛 Love your work)I didn’t think you meant me on the first post. My mistake.
I get the feeling that you intended that line as such now since you know better than most how little it takes for people to think dirty things on the interwebs 🙂
Your frustration is kind of beautiful, Willis
Could it be that the ‘Damn You Willis’ is mutual??
Does Willis say “Damn you Readers”?
Do robots dream of electric sheep?
Why does everybody on this board seem to think that “tag-teaming” always has to refer to doing the nasty?
It doesn’t have to but they weren’t talking about doing anything by themselves so I’m not sure where that line is coming from. Not that it isn’t obvious in context after finishing.
Not everyone. Posters above referenced Chris Jericho and Dean Malenko, who were also a tag team.
Were it a sexual one, an armbar would be involved somewhere.
Number 399: ARMBAR.
Big Show, Edge, The Undertaker (who I beat twice, might I add)
Maybe we’re just optimists.
Its called subtext. Layers of meaning. Dare I say depth of writing. When the author is able to convey multiple meanings and insinuations with a phrase that might have more implications than the characters who said/heard the actual words might realize at that moment. I give Willis all the credit in the world. OBVIOUSLY neither Billie or Ruth are thinking conciously about sexy times. But that doesn’t mean Willis can’t throw in a little literary easter egg for us pervy readers.
…or maybe it’s just a common turn of phrase for when two people tackle and unpleasant task together. Or a cigar.
I am quite certain that Billie meant that she and Ruth should sing early-’90s rap to make Amber feel better.
If there are different ways to interpret a phrase, I will always go with the dirty one, it is funnier that way.
He tried to… sneak in…?
Okay, her dad isn’t just an asshole, he’s *pathological.* That is a really bad sign.
I used to work for the security department at a division-3 school in Wisconsin as a dispatched/clerical support person. The actual officers on patrol were in fact sworn law officers with full arrest powers, were authorized to carry weapons, and were considered to be on a par with a regular State Patrol officer. In our case, anyway, should Blaine or anyone else been found in a University building or on campus after having been ordered to leave, he would have been “roughed, cuffed, and stuffed”, and be the County Jail overnight waiting to see a judge on Monday.
The campus security probably have relative powers of authority (IE, relative to the plot).
Blaine had been asked to leave by the RA, not by the campus police, and left upon being asked to do so. So the campus police would not have known that he had previously been asked to leave. In this case they would have taken him to the station, gotten his details, found out that he wasn’t a student and had no business on campus and given him a warning that if he got caught on campus again he’d get the full criminal trespassing treatment then cut him loose. Less paperwork that way, but his details would still be on file and the next time they caught him on campus he’d get the full treatment described.
SHIP
BATTLE
IN SPACE
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!
READY……. AIM………..
IMA FIRIN’ MA LAZA!!!!
Ruth, please. Haven’t we gotten beyond you punching each other by now?
Now, spankings. Spankings I could get behind.
No, no. There are stages of punching that they haven’t gone through yet. Heck, no noogies? What the hell?
I think technically EVERY spanking means you “got behind”.
Well, yea, from behind is usually how they work.
Urgh, please hold hands or something already!
Blaine is a pain.
In the membrane.
He makes me insane.
He needs to get on a train.
And go to Spain.
Where he’ll be shot in the brain.
While standing on the plain.
“detoxing” from alcohol on your own can be deadly. Heroin detox can’t kill you but alcohol can. Seizures and worse require alcoholics to get medical help to stop drinking. Just stopping isn’t uncomfortable it’s deadly
Huh. I didn’t know that. Scary.
So Ruth and Billie are gonna tag team Amber.
I’m up for watching that.
Like I said once, Billie still has a ways to go before she’s ready to handle the Ruth.
I hope that Amber’s Dad runs into Batman/Amazi-Girl.
That’s going to be brutal.
that would be terrible, it would give him blackmail material on her. the last thing amber needs is for her dad to have any kind of power over her, especially as regards her coping mechanism.
I’d love to see Billie try to cheer up everyone.¨Okay, so your parents don’t give you much attention Sal, but at least they’re not Nazis¨.
But how can you be sure? 😉
You know who else might have been maybe part Nazi? Sal’s parents!
Black Nazis… what a twist!
I just now realized Ruth is wearing those goofy overall shorts.
At first, I thought Billia was wearing thigh-high black patent leather boots over jeans, then I realized it is much more plausibly black tights UNDER jean SHORTS.
Either way she is dressed like a silly person. What the heck, those two.
Wow I finally caught up