Do you have ANY IDEA how long we are going to have to wait for that tiny little week to take place!? YEARS!!!! Willis passes time on a GEOLOGICAL TIME SCALE!!
the plot moves at the speed of the plot. whats important is the timing of the events as they unfold, how much page time is given to each event and the like, not how much “real time” has passed 😛
That came out a lot meaner than it was really meant(fictional character and all) with my gravatar. Eck, going to have to be careful with this awesome power and responsibility.
They’re casual and non-committed, remember? Dorothy’s free to enjoy some vanilla from time to time, keep calling up her local dispensary whenever she’s in the mood for some caramel. I’m moderately sure that Walky would be totally cool with this.
I’m pretty sure Dorothy said they were a “for fun” relationship, which is different than a “casual” or open relationship (in that yes they are actually dating exclusively but wouldn’t die if they broke up).
I don’t think we need the supposed here. The elder Browns refer to Jocelyn as Joshua, which is a pretty masculine name. So it’s safe to assume they see her as a guy so it’s safe to assume she’s male.
She’s biologically male, but her gender is female. A lot of people have a hard time putting that into words, which is fine! I’m pretty sure that’s what Twirls meant.
Makes sense though, the first one didn’t show up until Shortpacked. So out of the huge character transfer we’ve still only got that small supply. But I hold out hope that Willis will throw us some more dudelove eventually.
I’m pretty sure this is why people clung so desperately to the idea of Jocelyne being a gay or bi guy (including me). Ethan really doesn’t have many options.
Willis isn’t not repeating ships. Billie and Ruth happened (briefly) in the Walkyverse. Justin and Sal also happened (slightly less briefly) in the Walkyverse. He’s just not marching down well traveled paths. And I think it’s safe to say that a Walky/Dorothy/Joyce sandwich is not a well traveled path.
not exactly fair. some fanfiction is well written, entertaining and makes you have hope for fandoms, before something else comes along and dumps it under a pile of ex…cre…ment…
Yes, Walky’s comment reads a bit like a proposition. But then again, it seems to me that Walky’d need some persuading to try that specific sexual act, not something that he’d come up with himself.
I was recently told by my brother, that he believes “being an adult” is an act. Apparently, you act like a college goer all your life. You just pretend otherwise around the children.
I…
Kinda sense the same.
“I am completely comfortable with who I am,” said Walky to a room of insecure and mopey co-stars.
“We know, shut the fuck up,” said the chorus of sad sacks.
You just don’t want to overdo it. I carefully intersperse my being Walky with moments of being Dina, Dorothy, and Danny.
Hmmm, considering that Walky is actually named David, and that my own first name starts with a D, a spooky pattern seems to be emerging regarding which characters I relate to.
Though when I show up to work Monday mornings, I’m usually Mike.
My guess is it would involve a shovel, some small change, and the corpse of Regis Philbin’s mom. Or, you know, a time machine. If you wanna be classy about it.
I find it amusing you believe a character stating out loud their sexual orientation is not compatible for the wished relationship would in any way dissuade shippers from their delusion
This is Joyce he’s talking about? Cute, naive, little home-schooled Joyce? Our brown-haired, blue-eyed Joyce who was raised by Christian fundies? The same Joyce who wasn’t even comfortable sharing a shower room with the other girls in the dorm?
Whereinthehell did Walky ever get this idea?? And for that matter, where do all the rest of you that are shipping Joyce with anyone who doesn’t have a ‘Y’ chromosome get it?
See Joyce’s older brothers, also raised by fundies: one apparently is resisting his parents, the other secretly identifies as a woman. Joyce is already repressing sexual urges in general, it isn’t impossible that she is repressing homosexual urges as well.
That said, I’m pretty sure she’s straight, lol.
That’s what I meant. Joyce is as straight as a laser beam, she’s undoubtedly still a virgin, and even though she is now surrounded by “The Young and the Horny” that’s not likely to change any time soon.
Hate to break it to you, Bill. But this ship set sail almost from the very start of this series.
I am slowly piecing together a fan vid collage of all the scenes that prove the Joythy ship has been sailing for 2 years now steady as she goes.
All along Joyce has done things just for Dorothy. For example, the only reason Joyce went to the party where she was almost drug-raped just because she knew Dorothy was scared to go to it.
When Joyce found out Walky and Dorothy were together she went crazy saying how beautiful and sexy and smart Dorothy was and how Walky didn’t deserve her.
Every time Joyce has seen Walky and Dorothy make out she has become jealous. And one can’t forget the famous scene where Joyce and Dorothy hugged in a bathroom and Joyce told Dorothy how glad she was that Dorothy chose her, and Dorothy told Joyce “Always!”
And it’s not just one way either. Dorothy has actually claimed Joyce and Walky as her companions. Dorothy went to church with Joyce even though she is a fully admitted Atheist. And the matching sweater-vest & blouse outfits were so cute before Dorothy changed to avoid having to publically admit to things. And did I mention the hugs that Dorothy has given Joyce..?
This ship not only is sailing steady as she goes, it’s the frigging Love Boat.
This is a work of fiction. In a good work of fiction, the only things that are included are things that enhance or advance the storytelling in some way. Perhaps the things we’ve been shown so far are there to set the tone, or to explore themes, or to establish character. Perhaps they are pieces of a larger plot structure that we cannot see the whole of yet, or they are foreshadowings of actions and feelings yet to come. With the best writing, everything shown does at least two things at once. So it’s possible that the scenes mentioned above are just doing one or two other things, but it is also completely possible that they are foreshadowing future action as well. With the best writers, you do not know for sure until the scene happens and everything falls into place.
I’m actually not certain about that straight-as-a-laser-beam bit. She’s definitely predominantly into dudes, but if somebody’s bi the interests don’t always split 50/50, and there’s her reaction to Sal. Sal could be an instance of basic hero-worship with a shot of aesthetic appreciation, or could be something more, and I don’t know at this point. I’m not sure is JOYCE knows at this point. I’d kind of like to think she’s straight just so it doesn’t play out into cliches, but I’m waiting to see how it plays out.
Joyce has, over the course of DoA, asked Walky if she could borrow Dorothy, was curious about getting in the box, claimed to just want tacos (and that was all one strip!), lusted over Sal’s person in general and hair in particular, expressed a desire to crawl into Billie’s cleavage, declared her love for Dorothy, and generally acted jealous over Dorothy spending time with Walky instead of her. And probably some other stuff that I’m forgetting. There’s plenty of Les Yay fuel there.
And you cannot deny that Joyce would make an excellent First Lady for Dorothy.
(And I’m pretty sure, from the cast descriptions, that Becky wants to bang Joyce like a screen door in a hurricane, but that’s a different matter.)
Back when Joyce declared Dorothy her best friend, a posted comment asked “I thought Becky was your best friend?” I think a day or so earlier there was speculation as to whether Mr. & Mrs. Brown might pull funding to get Joyce away from these “unhealthy” influences.
I wondered at that time (but didn’t post my prediction until now) whether the parents might pull some fiscal judo and instead provide MORE money… for the specific purpose of travel expenses so Becky and Joyce can spend more time together on weekends. You know, to expose her to a healthier influence.
If you’re correct about hurricane Becky, and if I’m right about my prediction…
…won’t that be entertaining to watch!
(Also, Joyce will rebel against the idea of the Joyce/Dorothy ship w/o the reassurance that people from her moral-social group have and act on such thoughts. Hurricane Becky making a pass at her may not be absolutely necessary to the ship, but will propel it along with a powerful tailwind. As it were.)
I’ve been harboring a suspicion that the reason Becky hasn’t been answering her phone is that she had probably drunken sex with someone else, likely another girl, and can’t face Joyce because she feels like she’s cheated on her and let her down with her immorality.
Although you have to add that “Never mind, I figured it out” scene with Ethan, and the sex dream about him. She’s just in a wantin’ frame of mind reacting to the faintest whiff of sex.
Everything everyone in the comments already said plus we can ship whatever we want regardless of likelihood (although Joyce seems like she might at least be curious, and I sight blushing at Billie’s boobs and lusting over Sal). That’s the great thing about shipping.
OK, I’ve read all your comments and I can see where you might be getting your slant on things. But remember — THIS IS JOYCE! She’s a naive, inexperienced little freshman who is maybe all of 18 years young; heck, she might even be 17 like I was during my first semester in college.
As for saying “claiming” Walky and Dorothy as “hers”, how many times have you seen/heard young adolescent girls — and keep in mind that this is Joyce to a ‘T’; even though she may be 18 she has the experience of maybe a 14-year-old — announcing someone is their BFF or how they “love” something or someone, from Hannah Montana to One Direction to My Little Pony to ice cream sodas to Chicken McNuggets. But that doesn’t mean she wants to get into a kinky orgy with Miley Cyrus, Flutteryshy, and Niall Horan while smeared in whipped cream and barbecue sauce (and now watch — under provisions of rule 43 someone will post fan art of this within 24 hours)!
Her remark about crawling up into Billie’s boobs — I put that down to a remark made in a state of shock. I’m sure that up until she arrived at IU the only female breasts she had seen were her own in a mirror, and some of the other girls on the floor are clearly comfortable in their own skin. But remember where Joyce’s mind went when Sarah mentioned her “toys” just a couple strips before the one Shadow12000 linked to, and earlier in that same story arc she actually stated *out loud* that she was concerned she might be succumbing to temptation and that she would end up becoming gay “like everyone else in college”.
Based on my own experiences in the field of interpersonal relations (which admittedly aren’t much more extensive than Joyce’s), what I am getting out of this is that our cute, naive, non-worldly Joyce is a little pressure cooker of feelings and conflict between her upbringing, her own body (hormones), and her surroundings and she’s doing the best she can to keep the lid on it. Only time will tell how it will end.
Remember, having been raised in a fundamentalist christian family, Joyce likely believes the things many fundamentalists believe about homosexuality – i.e. that there aren’t “gay people” and “straight people”, that it’s just an act (a sin, of course, though the bible never really comes out and says it for lesbians) that anyone can be tempted to do.
Which means her concern for being tempted into homosexual acts could have been on a purely intellectual level, given those beliefs, rather than prompted by any feelings she’s actually noticed herself having.
Sometimes when there’s an elephant in the room, it’s better to name it and clear the air. Most people won’t because of the awkward factor. Walky is clearly immune to said awkward factor. And social conventions.
So exactly how does Walky go from oblivious 50-McNugget chomping, D&MM obsessed, barely aware or in control of his desire for Dorothy that he was like a victim of mind control who couldn’t figure out what his body was doing or why. How does he go from thinking he’ll get in trouble for touching Dorothy’s breasts.
How does he go from all that to bluntly spouting gaydar-based interpretations of Joyce’s behavior?
More than just one comment… multiple times he’s teased Joyce about her relationship with Dorothy. Not just in the comic either, check out the ‘Character Tweets’ section of DoA site.
Honestly though the main reason he teases her about it is because he knows that she’s his toughest competition for the heart of Dorothy, and as long as she’s in denial he’s in the penthouse.
On the other hand all that prior commentary seemed isolated to the realm of first base as his comfort zone. As I think about it though, the escalation here is probably a projection of his having sorted out what HE’s ready for. In his head he’s over his embarrassment at having an erection while spooning her and is already well around third.
I just really really really wish I had finished creating my Joyce / Dorothy shippers fan vid collage (part 1) before this strip came out so I could’ve posted it as one of the first comments when this episode came out. 🙁
Real life stinks not enough time to edit my vids. 🙁
A lot of people have given evidence for Joyce being into Dorothy, but do we have any reason to believe her supposed feelings would be reciprocated? Has Dorothy shown any bi tendencies or attraction toward Joyce?
Well, Walky has his unique style of social awkwardness: he is perfectly observant but picks the wrong actions (like a stalker “she does not like me” -> “I need to be more attentive”) and/or the wrong timing (just that instead of “too little, too late” we get “too much, too early”).
Reminds me of that time where I told my father about having spent, like, half an hour in a test and getting only half-way of proving that a skew-Hermitian matrix has purely imaginary Eigenvalues, and he does that “eyes defocus while looking into a world far away for two seconds” number and tells me “but that’s trivial”. And pens down some five-liner which I brood over half an hour and then say “yeah right”.
Except that when Walky does that it would’ve been more like my mother pulling that trick on me, and that would’ve made me much more irritated (not because of genders but because there is a difference in expectations between Theoretic Physicists and English teachers).
At any rate, I’ll probably be able to reproduce that five-liner (or its associates for Hermitian and Unitary matrices) on my death bed, never mind that my job does not require higher math.
But I digress, how does this map to DoA? Probably Dorothy will now be able to imagine doing threesomes on her deathbed thanks to Walky?
Poor Dorothy. Understanding the mind of Walky is a terrible burden for a young woman. And what is it that so many characters are drawn to her. Danny, Walky, Joyce and, of course, Joe. Mike is just waiting for her to become a mother.
Willis, need I remind you of what happens to comic artist who spell out slang and accents in their comics? Five words: For Better or For Worse. Woebetide to one who follows the Elly path, lest one be scortched in the burnsauce.
Honestly no, it never really worked. And Walky has gotten worse. It used to just be Sal, which basically made me never want there to be scenes with Sal in them. Robin does it so little in Shortpacked that it doesn’t really distract, thankfully. But in DoA Willis has been going Lynn Johnston levels of dumb accent/slang writing and it’s really begun to pall.
Sal may be an issue, even if I like her as a Southerner, but Walky’s just speaking incredibly informally. That’s not an accent, that’s (lazy) diction, and actually needs to be spelled out.
You know Walky, YOU could shove your head in between your girlfriend’s legs instead of Joyce.
You know, we’ve seen a slight sex scene with Sal. I’d be interested in seeing a slight sex scene with Walky. He seems like he’d get all hot and heavy and then be like, “Is that a boob hair? I didn’t know boobs could have little hairs! That’s so weird! Wait…where are you going???”
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Awwwwww 🙂
Your avatar. SO. PERFECT.
Do you have ANY IDEA how long we are going to have to wait for that tiny little week to take place!? YEARS!!!! Willis passes time on a GEOLOGICAL TIME SCALE!!
the plot moves at the speed of the plot. whats important is the timing of the events as they unfold, how much page time is given to each event and the like, not how much “real time” has passed 😛
besides, willis likes to jump weeks
hahahahaha
We ALL were, Dorothy
She wants to shove her face between Dorothy’s legos? What does that mean?
That sounds painful.
I’ll say! Stepping on them’s bad enough.
Joyce sure has some odd desires…
Between the Lego bricks, not right into them. It doesn’t hurt that much.
She’s looking for the elusive triangle-shaped piece that will complete her.
Is that what they’re calling it now?
Triangle? You may need to get something looked at…
That is the shape of her smile, no?
WIN!
Tasmania!
Is that some sort of fundamentalist self mortification ritual
Jack I don’t think you’re old enough for this conversation – go back to the latest mystery, yeah?
That came out a lot meaner than it was really meant(fictional character and all) with my gravatar. Eck, going to have to be careful with this awesome power and responsibility.
No worries. S’allright.
Also, I was referring to David’s face into lego’s thing, which does sound painful.
your gravatar, what webcomic is that from again? I think I used to read it but for some reason I lost track of it.
It’s Jack from Bad Machinery! You should read Bad Machinery, it’s literally the best.
And stupidly cheap on Kindle right now:
US site
Canadian site
UK site
John Allison is amazing. I laugh harder and ship harder in the Tackleford ‘verse than even here.
Never change, Walky!
Aw yeah, Walky keeps the conversation classy…
He’s just voicing what we’re all thinking.
Or at least what Joyce is thinking.
So, Walky’s just giving Dorothy up right, right?
No, he gets to watch.
Damn, I thought he was going to join in. You know, being the caramel between two marshmallows….am I doing it right?
There are probably four marshmallows involved in this.
Eight if you know what you’re doing
Chubby bunny all the way
Joyce/Dorothy/Walky OT3?
I’d ship it.
I’ve been shipping it for months.
Joyce/Dorothy/Walky would be okay but Joyce/Dorothy is my favorite ship. <3
Naw, he wants to participate.
Or, at least Joe would.
Joe has the ability to teleport to ALL girl-on-girl action.
Joe is Nightcrawler?
A somewhat limited version.. yes
Nightcreeper then.
+1 Internet
Shirai Kuroko is the teleporter who’s all about the girl on girl.
Weird how she’s never thought ta do that
That’s because she is dedicated to Biribiri.
I have no idea what the heck you are talking about. To the internet, away!
Only about a very restricted subset of it, I think.
He crawls at night, so…
They’re casual and non-committed, remember? Dorothy’s free to enjoy some vanilla from time to time, keep calling up her local dispensary whenever she’s in the mood for some caramel. I’m moderately sure that Walky would be totally cool with this.
I’m pretty sure Dorothy said they were a “for fun” relationship, which is different than a “casual” or open relationship (in that yes they are actually dating exclusively but wouldn’t die if they broke up).
What part of bringing Joyce home for a threesome doesn’t qualify as “fun”?
The Billie avatar on that comment just caps it delightfully.
And all righty then.
Walky, if you want a three-way, you need to be more subtle about it.
C’mon Dorothy, It’s not gay if it’s a 3-way. With a fellow in the middle there’s some leeway. It says it all in this video.
You forgot to link the video.
I don’t think Dorothy’s problem would be that it’s gay, so much that she and Joyce have a “sister-buds” thing going on.
“I want to do you, no incest”?
And at least wait until your birthday to ask.
April is like thirty years away, though.
See, Dorothy? Even your boyfriend ships it.
Ha! Will he join the face-leg shoving though?
I swear Walky is a commenter on this comic sometimes.
Which of you is Walky? ‘Fess up.
I wanted to say me….but I’ll be lying.
You’re just saying this to draw suspicion away from yourself, aren’t you, Walky?
I know I am not Walky. And if you were all Walky, then you’d chuck MM at me, so some of you are not Walky.
So, I have this internet I’m not using and…here. You’ve earned it.
Well, I would have said ‘Make out with you on my sister’s motorcycle’ so I’m clearly not Walky. Thank every possible god for that.
Walky is who we all aspire to be.
Because we know reaching Joe’s perfection is impossible.
No way. Walky is a genius in cleverly-wrapped stupid.
You mean a genius wrapped into a tortilla of low expectation covered in the nacho-cheese of low pressure.
I am! 😀
David Walkerton: voice of the fandom
Only when Ethan’s not doing his job.
What, If Dorothy knew how many people ship the browns with the same (supposed) sex you wouldn’t at all be surprised!
I don’t think we need the supposed here. The elder Browns refer to Jocelyn as Joshua, which is a pretty masculine name. So it’s safe to assume they see her as a guy so it’s safe to assume she’s male.
#That’sNotHowItWorks
+56000000
Physically male, anyway. And I’m pretty sure the implication that that has any relevance at all can get you shot around here.
Shot, stabbed, lit on fire and fed to pigs.
She’s biologically male, but her gender is female. A lot of people have a hard time putting that into words, which is fine! I’m pretty sure that’s what Twirls meant.
With Willis’ track record, it’s not exactly inconceivable.
Keep using that word something something Princess Bride something something
something something killed my father?
As you something.
One of my favorite all-time lines — especially when the something is dragged waaaaay oooouuuut!
Heh. You said ‘something dragged way out’. Heheh. Heheheh.
roger that!
Do go on, Mr. Walkerton.
You can’t blame Walky for just coming out and saying what the whole fandom has been thinking since this strip began. I mean, you can, but…
Good thing Danny didn’t say it. We might’ve killed him.
Danny isn’t able to conceive of the innuendo, let alone give voice to it.
When it comes to innuendo, Danny pretty much shoots only blanks.
I’m so tempted to “fix” your comment, Plasma…
I thought it already came that way?
Giggity, Giggity, Giggity!
Terribly awesome influence
I think… That still might happen…
Yes….
It will be glorious.
GLORIOUS!
I read in the voice of Shao Khan..the one from Mortal Kombat Annihilation.
Then is it weird that’s how I imagined it sounding when I wrote it?
Gottawonder, does all of the female in your strip think along these lines Mr. W.? Or is it only Walky and friends? 🙂
I…feel like I know what you’re saying but I’m still confused.
Walky is female? Huh?
Joe is the BEST influence.
Joe should be our supreme overlord.
Our lord and master, Joe.
Joeverlord.
Full title: Our Supreme Lord and Master, the Joeverlord, God of Sexual Influence (and almost anything to do with libido).
Long live the Sex King
Spittaked.
I swear, every female character in this strip is destined to be a lesbian.
Dinas next I’m sure.
Nah, Dina’s dinosexual…and there’s this voice inside my head that said I should ship Dina with Emperor Gore.
WIN!
I expected you to say Egoraptor, for some reason XD
Her favorite novels are The Balaur’s Delight and Taken by the T-Rex.
Well, Dina could always fall for a female dinosaur.
There she is, innocently watching Doctor Who, wondering why the butler looks like a potato, and suddenly THEY walk in and a new fetish is born.
You didn’t guess this when it said “By David Willis”?
I don’t think it counts as a prediction when Leslie called it in their first Gender Studies class.
I’m still shocked by the lack of gay dudes. I’ve only seen one.
Ethan is gay?????!!!!????!!!!11111!!!!
Not Ethan.
Faz. He just tries to hide it WITH DIRTY DIRTY LIES!
Ew. Thought about Ethan/Faz for a minute.
Doesn’t help that I had a Faz of my own in high school who latched onto me like a puppy dog. I can picture it ALL TOO CLEARLY!
Didn’t that happen once in Shortpacked?
No, you’re thinking of Faz/Ninja Rick.
Nah, he’s robosexual. He just seems gay because most of the Transformers identify as masculine.
Makes sense though, the first one didn’t show up until Shortpacked. So out of the huge character transfer we’ve still only got that small supply. But I hold out hope that Willis will throw us some more dudelove eventually.
I’m pretty sure this is why people clung so desperately to the idea of Jocelyne being a gay or bi guy (including me). Ethan really doesn’t have many options.
it’s mostly because we don’t have that many new characters, and since everyone stated to be keeping their sexuality, I think it’s just ethan.
we do have a couple of bi guys, and then there’s Mike, who’s sexuality is what you don’t want it to be
And Thad and Manny!
*claps* excellent.
Joyce would have to be bi, remember?
I remember perfectly thanks .
Joyce in college = kid in candy store.
A kid who has been taught that candy is sinful.
That’s the best kind.
No, Joyce’s mom was already doing that with Mike. And Walky’s. And his own.
Mike doesn’t discriminate.
Sure he does, he wont do the deed with someone unless it pisses someone, anyone, off. Bonus points if it’s your mom.
How is Wally going to have a three way with Dorothy and Joyce is Willis isn’t repeating ships.
The loophole is he changed his name to Wally, so it’s fine.
Its the Headmasters all over again!
Willis isn’t not repeating ships. Billie and Ruth happened (briefly) in the Walkyverse. Justin and Sal also happened (slightly less briefly) in the Walkyverse. He’s just not marching down well traveled paths. And I think it’s safe to say that a Walky/Dorothy/Joyce sandwich is not a well traveled path.
In universe. In fanfiction…
In fanfiction, all things are terrible because fanfiction is terrible. If types of writing were Dumbiverse characters, fanfiction would be Danny.
Some fanfiction is so bad, it’s funny. So, not Danny, more like Faz. Fazfiction.
*shudder*
If types of writing were Dumbiverse characters, Faz would be pornographic fanfiction. Danny is the earnest, non-porn variety.
In Danny’s fanfic, there is a tasteful fade to black when Amazi-Girl comes to visit him in his parents’ basement.
In Faz’s fanfic, there are diagrams.
Stop fanfazasing, everyone 😐
You mean there is some that is not pornographic?
Yes, lots of? That’s why on many fanfiction host sites a rating system exists? For that matter, there’s even shipping fiction that’s non-porn. 😉
not exactly fair. some fanfiction is well written, entertaining and makes you have hope for fandoms, before something else comes along and dumps it under a pile of ex…cre…ment…
goddamnit, that is danny.
Hey now, not ALL fanfiction is terrible.
Just MOST of it is terrible.
Sturgeon’s law: 90% of everything is crap.
Does a character shipping in Canon makes a ship canon ?
At least, it’s good ammo.
I’m just picturing a pirate ship sailing around firing “cannon” balls shaped like Joyce and Dorothy’s heads
Well if you think of it like that the HMS Billie an’ Walky should have already been boarded
I pictured cannons firing high velocity cruise ships….. lol that would be awsome
Ships that fire ships that fire ships that fire IT KEEPS HAPPENING!
I’d make some witty comment, but I’m just too busy grinning.
*Sal’s
Well, honestly, they’re probably both right
Agreed. And Walky’s just pissed because Joyce might get there sooner than him. (Or has this already happened? DoA info overload!)
I don’t think their physical relationship has advanced to that point because Dorothy’s been too busy studying.
I vote Joyce and Walky team up to loosen her up.
Yes, Walky’s comment reads a bit like a proposition. But then again, it seems to me that Walky’d need some persuading to try that specific sexual act, not something that he’d come up with himself.
We saw the start of Joyce questioning her sexuality. While she definitely likes boys, I hope to see it explored a bit deeper.
…
…Just like she wants to explore Dorothy a bit deeper I’M SORRY I COULDN’T RESIST.
*claps*
Bravo, sir.
Dorothy has the clap?
several, apparently
Looking forward to when she moves past bi erasure.
Oh thank GOD he said his awkwardness AFTER all the serious drama went down
Was Walky giving permission?
No, he’s asking if he could join in.
Actually, he was acknowledging the impression he got of Joyce, which means he neither wants permission nor is wishin’.
I’m sorry, it rhymed, I couldn’t stop myself.
Excellent. A comic with characters that are not Danny.
That’s Our Walky! *canned laughter*
“That’s Walky!” is filmed in front of a live comment section.
Internet for you, Yotomoe!
God I really want to be in college again, if only so that I can say stuff like that and get away with it.
When they handed me my diploma they seem to have forgotten the Official Adulthood Certificate to go with it, so I’m still good.
Wait…I can say shit like this!?
WHY WASN’T I INFORMED!!!?
I was recently told by my brother, that he believes “being an adult” is an act. Apparently, you act like a college goer all your life. You just pretend otherwise around the children.
I…
Kinda sense the same.
*around the boss, unless he’s cool with it.
“I am completely comfortable with who I am,” said Walky to a room of insecure and mopey co-stars.
“We know, shut the fuck up,” said the chorus of sad sacks.
Walky, you and your near perfect life piss me off.
True story: last week I found myself watching cartoons while eating McNuggets and wearing my jammies.
I realized that that if only I’d had some Mountain Dew, I would have achieved inner peace just like Walky.
Or just die.
Cuz Walky’s life habbits are basically asking for it.
Being Walky is fine in moderation.
You just don’t want to overdo it. I carefully intersperse my being Walky with moments of being Dina, Dorothy, and Danny.
Hmmm, considering that Walky is actually named David, and that my own first name starts with a D, a spooky pattern seems to be emerging regarding which characters I relate to.
Though when I show up to work Monday mornings, I’m usually Mike.
Isn’t everyone Mike on Monday mornings?
Huh. “Mike on Monday Mornings” sounds like it could be a talk show.
It would be a talk show for all of five minutes before being pulled from the air. Something about gross offensiveness to humans in general.
Which is why it’d go on the internet, and make millions.
Before inevitably being picked up by [adult swim].
My guess is it would involve a shovel, some small change, and the corpse of Regis Philbin’s mom. Or, you know, a time machine. If you wanna be classy about it.
On monday morning you’re basically a Dick then ?
the pattern is complete !
Well, Dick’s dead in this universe, so…
Why do you want Walkie’s hobbits to die?
What you don’t know is that it’s because Dorothy has MM underwear and Joyce wants a good look at them.
Wait, they make those?
Of course they do. There’s like 10 designs!
Granted, most of them are either aimed at the younger crowd or have an embarrassingly cheesy innuendo on them, but that’s par for the course.
Let the MM Underwear Innuendo Contest BEGIN!
I’d…like to master…your monkey? No, no, wait, hang on, I got this.
I’d…stick my monkey…okay, no, ew. Um…
You can give my alien head any day oh dear god I’m terrible at this.
Spank the Monkey.
Arrow pointing to the crotch or butt. Caption: “Monkey see, monkey do.”
Awesome! I hereby award you one full internet!
there’s a monkey in my pants and everyone’s invited?
And none of them is based on the first two seasons, pre-channel change design.
An insult to the true fans !
“Intimate Salvation” by MM
LET THE SHIPS SAIL AGAIN!
Let’s be fair: Everyone needed this, in and out of universe, as a release of all the tension and drama that’s built up.
I release my tension in a completely different way.
Completely?
I am slightly frightened due to the Hexadecimal gravitar.
Is Dorothy’s hair getting longer? I remember it being more of a perfect oval type deal.
Probably more of a “Willis playing around with the art style” thing.
Or her hair’s growing gradually over the course of weeks. Maybe she’s gonna get it cut at some point?
She should go to whoever did Ethan’s hair, apparently that guy/gal works wonders.
unless that person is just really good at the haircut they gave ethan.
well, it’s been a while since she got there. hair has this odd tendancy to grow 😛
The hair grows in real time, not comic time.
Ah, JoshuaxEthan might be gone, but at least we still have that good old fashion DorothyxJoyce
I find it amusing you believe a character stating out loud their sexual orientation is not compatible for the wished relationship would in any way dissuade shippers from their delusion
Hey, I could ship Dorothy x Joyce. That’d be delightfully neurotic.
That last panel. Oh my god.
Hahahahahaha…
Comment made perfect by raised-eyebrow-Joe gravatar.
I don’t get it. What’s so inappropriate about Joyce wanting to shove her face into Dorothy’s lecture notes?
Dorothy is a good student, and Joyce wants to further her education, that’s all.
Spread those pages, I wanna be educated.
This is Joyce he’s talking about? Cute, naive, little home-schooled Joyce? Our brown-haired, blue-eyed Joyce who was raised by Christian fundies? The same Joyce who wasn’t even comfortable sharing a shower room with the other girls in the dorm?
Whereinthehell did Walky ever get this idea?? And for that matter, where do all the rest of you that are shipping Joyce with anyone who doesn’t have a ‘Y’ chromosome get it?
See Joyce’s older brothers, also raised by fundies: one apparently is resisting his parents, the other secretly identifies as a woman. Joyce is already repressing sexual urges in general, it isn’t impossible that she is repressing homosexual urges as well.
That said, I’m pretty sure she’s straight, lol.
That’s what I meant. Joyce is as straight as a laser beam, she’s undoubtedly still a virgin, and even though she is now surrounded by “The Young and the Horny” that’s not likely to change any time soon.
Hate to break it to you, Bill. But this ship set sail almost from the very start of this series.
I am slowly piecing together a fan vid collage of all the scenes that prove the Joythy ship has been sailing for 2 years now steady as she goes.
All along Joyce has done things just for Dorothy. For example, the only reason Joyce went to the party where she was almost drug-raped just because she knew Dorothy was scared to go to it.
When Joyce found out Walky and Dorothy were together she went crazy saying how beautiful and sexy and smart Dorothy was and how Walky didn’t deserve her.
Every time Joyce has seen Walky and Dorothy make out she has become jealous. And one can’t forget the famous scene where Joyce and Dorothy hugged in a bathroom and Joyce told Dorothy how glad she was that Dorothy chose her, and Dorothy told Joyce “Always!”
And it’s not just one way either. Dorothy has actually claimed Joyce and Walky as her companions. Dorothy went to church with Joyce even though she is a fully admitted Atheist. And the matching sweater-vest & blouse outfits were so cute before Dorothy changed to avoid having to publically admit to things. And did I mention the hugs that Dorothy has given Joyce..?
This ship not only is sailing steady as she goes, it’s the frigging Love Boat.
Friendship and mutual admiration, apparently, are not things that exist.
This is a work of fiction. In a good work of fiction, the only things that are included are things that enhance or advance the storytelling in some way. Perhaps the things we’ve been shown so far are there to set the tone, or to explore themes, or to establish character. Perhaps they are pieces of a larger plot structure that we cannot see the whole of yet, or they are foreshadowings of actions and feelings yet to come. With the best writing, everything shown does at least two things at once. So it’s possible that the scenes mentioned above are just doing one or two other things, but it is also completely possible that they are foreshadowing future action as well. With the best writers, you do not know for sure until the scene happens and everything falls into place.
Straight as a laser beam he says.
Looking at Billie in that strip, and the one just preceding, can you blame her? At all?
Even laser beams are bent by gravity, and Billie’s boobs have a lot of gravity.
I’m actually not certain about that straight-as-a-laser-beam bit. She’s definitely predominantly into dudes, but if somebody’s bi the interests don’t always split 50/50, and there’s her reaction to Sal. Sal could be an instance of basic hero-worship with a shot of aesthetic appreciation, or could be something more, and I don’t know at this point. I’m not sure is JOYCE knows at this point. I’d kind of like to think she’s straight just so it doesn’t play out into cliches, but I’m waiting to see how it plays out.
*Billie
Brain is tired, wires are crossed
And I speak from experience!
She’s being written by Willis and is in close proximity to Billie’s breasts a LOT. Heterosexuality can not withstand such a powerful offensive.
I mean just look at em. They’re wonderful!
and she could crawl up into them and be safe and warm forever
Joyce has, over the course of DoA, asked Walky if she could borrow Dorothy, was curious about getting in the box, claimed to just want tacos (and that was all one strip!), lusted over Sal’s person in general and hair in particular, expressed a desire to crawl into Billie’s cleavage, declared her love for Dorothy, and generally acted jealous over Dorothy spending time with Walky instead of her. And probably some other stuff that I’m forgetting. There’s plenty of Les Yay fuel there.
And you cannot deny that Joyce would make an excellent First Lady for Dorothy.
(And I’m pretty sure, from the cast descriptions, that Becky wants to bang Joyce like a screen door in a hurricane, but that’s a different matter.)
Back when Joyce declared Dorothy her best friend, a posted comment asked “I thought Becky was your best friend?” I think a day or so earlier there was speculation as to whether Mr. & Mrs. Brown might pull funding to get Joyce away from these “unhealthy” influences.
I wondered at that time (but didn’t post my prediction until now) whether the parents might pull some fiscal judo and instead provide MORE money… for the specific purpose of travel expenses so Becky and Joyce can spend more time together on weekends. You know, to expose her to a healthier influence.
If you’re correct about hurricane Becky, and if I’m right about my prediction…
…won’t that be entertaining to watch!
(Also, Joyce will rebel against the idea of the Joyce/Dorothy ship w/o the reassurance that people from her moral-social group have and act on such thoughts. Hurricane Becky making a pass at her may not be absolutely necessary to the ship, but will propel it along with a powerful tailwind. As it were.)
I’ve been harboring a suspicion that the reason Becky hasn’t been answering her phone is that she had probably drunken sex with someone else, likely another girl, and can’t face Joyce because she feels like she’s cheated on her and let her down with her immorality.
Wow. You (almost) called it.
Although you have to add that “Never mind, I figured it out” scene with Ethan, and the sex dream about him. She’s just in a wantin’ frame of mind reacting to the faintest whiff of sex.
Everything everyone in the comments already said plus we can ship whatever we want regardless of likelihood (although Joyce seems like she might at least be curious, and I sight blushing at Billie’s boobs and lusting over Sal). That’s the great thing about shipping.
OK, I’ve read all your comments and I can see where you might be getting your slant on things. But remember — THIS IS JOYCE! She’s a naive, inexperienced little freshman who is maybe all of 18 years young; heck, she might even be 17 like I was during my first semester in college.
As for saying “claiming” Walky and Dorothy as “hers”, how many times have you seen/heard young adolescent girls — and keep in mind that this is Joyce to a ‘T’; even though she may be 18 she has the experience of maybe a 14-year-old — announcing someone is their BFF or how they “love” something or someone, from Hannah Montana to One Direction to My Little Pony to ice cream sodas to Chicken McNuggets. But that doesn’t mean she wants to get into a kinky orgy with Miley Cyrus, Flutteryshy, and Niall Horan while smeared in whipped cream and barbecue sauce (and now watch — under provisions of rule 43 someone will post fan art of this within 24 hours)!
Her remark about crawling up into Billie’s boobs — I put that down to a remark made in a state of shock. I’m sure that up until she arrived at IU the only female breasts she had seen were her own in a mirror, and some of the other girls on the floor are clearly comfortable in their own skin. But remember where Joyce’s mind went when Sarah mentioned her “toys” just a couple strips before the one Shadow12000 linked to, and earlier in that same story arc she actually stated *out loud* that she was concerned she might be succumbing to temptation and that she would end up becoming gay “like everyone else in college”.
Based on my own experiences in the field of interpersonal relations (which admittedly aren’t much more extensive than Joyce’s), what I am getting out of this is that our cute, naive, non-worldly Joyce is a little pressure cooker of feelings and conflict between her upbringing, her own body (hormones), and her surroundings and she’s doing the best she can to keep the lid on it. Only time will tell how it will end.
BTW, Milae, I’d like to see that compilation/montage you were talking about. Please post a link.
Remember, having been raised in a fundamentalist christian family, Joyce likely believes the things many fundamentalists believe about homosexuality – i.e. that there aren’t “gay people” and “straight people”, that it’s just an act (a sin, of course, though the bible never really comes out and says it for lesbians) that anyone can be tempted to do.
Which means her concern for being tempted into homosexual acts could have been on a purely intellectual level, given those beliefs, rather than prompted by any feelings she’s actually noticed herself having.
I just noticed something…Walky is kinda like the Dude.
Obvious joke in 3…2…1…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c
And my response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE_oIIIwWl0
That’s nonsense, Walky: Joyce wants to shove her face in your sister’s hair.
And Billie’s boobs. She’s not particular!
She may do all 3.
At the same time, or in a row?
Yet another step to the Dorothy/Walky/Joyce threesome!
I’m all for the First Lady Joyce Keener ship, but Joyce tried it in Roomies! and didn’t like it.
It’s just bad when it licks you back.
It would be kind of frightening if it licked you back
Sometimes when there’s an elephant in the room, it’s better to name it and clear the air. Most people won’t because of the awkward factor. Walky is clearly immune to said awkward factor. And social conventions.
Walky ships it so hard.
Can you blame him? That ship is the finest yacht to grace the seven seas. I only hope that it never suffers a torpedoing or iceberg ramming.
He shall be henceforth known as Captain Walky.
He will never go down with the ship, though might go down upon the ship if asked.
I . . . I . . . I wish I’d made that comment…
that opens the door for so many posibilities…
Fly my fanfiction writers, Fly Fly Fly. Off to your keyboards to craft wonderful smut for your master Willis.
Stay classy Walky. Without you, this strip is just vulgarity and sex.
So exactly how does Walky go from oblivious 50-McNugget chomping, D&MM obsessed, barely aware or in control of his desire for Dorothy that he was like a victim of mind control who couldn’t figure out what his body was doing or why. How does he go from thinking he’ll get in trouble for touching Dorothy’s breasts.
How does he go from all that to bluntly spouting gaydar-based interpretations of Joyce’s behavior?
He’s been doing it for a Looooooong time now. Remember the ‘I think Joyce wants a kiss’ comment?
I forgot that one, but you’re right.
More than just one comment… multiple times he’s teased Joyce about her relationship with Dorothy. Not just in the comic either, check out the ‘Character Tweets’ section of DoA site.
Honestly though the main reason he teases her about it is because he knows that she’s his toughest competition for the heart of Dorothy, and as long as she’s in denial he’s in the penthouse.
On the other hand all that prior commentary seemed isolated to the realm of first base as his comfort zone. As I think about it though, the escalation here is probably a projection of his having sorted out what HE’s ready for. In his head he’s over his embarrassment at having an erection while spooning her and is already well around third.
He’s an idiot savant.
Walky isn’t an idiot; he just plays one because he’s lazy.
That’s why I love him. We are brothers.
What happened to you, Sal??
OK, OK.
(lol)
Inspiration, Walky is thy name.
TWIST! Joyce is the gay Brown!
Walky is genre savvy
Walky reminds me of one of my younger cousins. :p
Holy fuck! I just have to express my complete amazement that Walky (Willis) went there!!
::::grinning::::
I approve.
Walky’s gone there before, though not quite as far.
Oh, yeah! At the time, I imagined Joyce thinking, “Nasty pre-marital hanky-panky!” But now, I see it in a whole new way . . .
Oh, yeah, and here, too.
Walky is the Shipmaster… the Rear Admiral… the…
The Top Seaman
The First Man on the poopdeck
Wow, even Walky ships Joyce/Dorothy.
IKR that ship is just all hands on deck and engines full ahead thrust.
I imagine a lot of thrusting going on.
I just really really really wish I had finished creating my Joyce / Dorothy shippers fan vid collage (part 1) before this strip came out so I could’ve posted it as one of the first comments when this episode came out. 🙁
Real life stinks not enough time to edit my vids. 🙁
Walky, pro tip: your girlfriend is almost never likely to appreciate your shipping her with another girl.
It’s all kinds of fun when she does, though.
Walky you dingus. Don’t sacrifice your relationship over a few cheap shots at Joyce.
College is a time for experimentation! I fully support Walky’s stance on Joyce and Dorothy lezzing out.
I swear, the meta-humour in this strip… so, this time next year then?
Ah, the Walkyverse: where everybody is queer (that used to just be “gay”, but Monday’s strip blew that up) until proven otherwise.
A lot of people have given evidence for Joyce being into Dorothy, but do we have any reason to believe her supposed feelings would be reciprocated? Has Dorothy shown any bi tendencies or attraction toward Joyce?
Also why can’t I get the custom gravatar thing to work… I made one and everything…
Was your custom gravatar by any chance a buckyball? Because I think it’s working.
Yeah it is now XD
I’ll be more impressed when you invent/discover the Walkyblock. Which is a perfect golden cuboid of crystal caramel.
Many a year has it’s tasty geometry eluded me…
theKot has a point is there any evidence that Dorothy wants to make Joyce her First Lady?
Sadly, no. All indications are that Dorothy is entirely straight.
Well, Walky has his unique style of social awkwardness: he is perfectly observant but picks the wrong actions (like a stalker “she does not like me” -> “I need to be more attentive”) and/or the wrong timing (just that instead of “too little, too late” we get “too much, too early”).
Reminds me of that time where I told my father about having spent, like, half an hour in a test and getting only half-way of proving that a skew-Hermitian matrix has purely imaginary Eigenvalues, and he does that “eyes defocus while looking into a world far away for two seconds” number and tells me “but that’s trivial”. And pens down some five-liner which I brood over half an hour and then say “yeah right”.
Except that when Walky does that it would’ve been more like my mother pulling that trick on me, and that would’ve made me much more irritated (not because of genders but because there is a difference in expectations between Theoretic Physicists and English teachers).
At any rate, I’ll probably be able to reproduce that five-liner (or its associates for Hermitian and Unitary matrices) on my death bed, never mind that my job does not require higher math.
But I digress, how does this map to DoA? Probably Dorothy will now be able to imagine doing threesomes on her deathbed thanks to Walky?
So much love for Walky and so much hate for Danny, but right now Walky is making me cringe way, way harder.
… *steeples fingers* Continue, Mr Walkerton.
A week away, huh? Unfortunately that means we’ll have to wait until 2015 to find out if Walky’s prediction is correct.
Man, I’ve gotten so used to the blue color pallet for outdoor things that this one kinda jarred me.
And right around the corner Ruth whispers “I’d ship it.” very softly to herself
*George Takei voce*
Oh my.
Poor Dorothy. Understanding the mind of Walky is a terrible burden for a young woman. And what is it that so many characters are drawn to her. Danny, Walky, Joyce and, of course, Joe. Mike is just waiting for her to become a mother.
Ok, I absolutely loved this comment. You just won the internet. Congratulations!
Aww… I’m not Dina anymore!!!! Butt nuggets!
50 peice butt nuggets
I read ‘Ethan’ instead of ‘Joe’ in the hovertext, and burst out laughing.
Then I read it right and got sad 🙁
It’d be hilarious and horrifying if Walky gets elected President instead of Dorothy.
Obviously Mike will be his Vice President.
A jackass and a total asshole running as president and vice president?
Oh god, it’ll be 2000 all over again.
Not fair, at least Mike is competent.
Sadly those who use mobile devices like me cannot view hover text
“Joe has been a terrible influence.”
I did a deviantart search for Dumbing of Age. I have now seen more of Walky then I ever wanted to see. Thanks Willis!
Turn onthe frickin’ mature filter. It exists for a reason.
*on the
Shove her face between Dorothy’s legumes? Her legacy? Legend? Legal briefs?
legolas? legos? leggings? legitimacy?
we’ll never know
A bit out of subject, but I’m still waiting on that music major appearing in this comic :I
he died
Your gravatar looks like Uncle Rick when he writes a new Percy Jackson book
Walky is wise beyond his years…wait did the world just end?
And its that statement that has convinced me that Walky is a genius in terms of comedy!
Besides that, anyone who incites a lesbian scene into the heads of those around them gets a thumbs up from me.
Willis, need I remind you of what happens to comic artist who spell out slang and accents in their comics? Five words: For Better or For Worse. Woebetide to one who follows the Elly path, lest one be scortched in the burnsauce.
he’s been doing it for nigh on two decades. seems to be working for him so far 😛
Honestly no, it never really worked. And Walky has gotten worse. It used to just be Sal, which basically made me never want there to be scenes with Sal in them. Robin does it so little in Shortpacked that it doesn’t really distract, thankfully. But in DoA Willis has been going Lynn Johnston levels of dumb accent/slang writing and it’s really begun to pall.
When Joyce calls Walky a foob and asserts that Roz is totally roadside, I’ll believe you have a point.
Sal may be an issue, even if I like her as a Southerner, but Walky’s just speaking incredibly informally. That’s not an accent, that’s (lazy) diction, and actually needs to be spelled out.
Yeah, Walky doesn’t have an accent. (At least not according to his peers.) Like Robin, he just talks sloppily.
C’mon, Dorothy. We were all thinking about it, especially since Joyce had her…homosexual episode.
By the end of the comic, Joyce will have slept with every female character.
Makes sense. Can’t see her sleeping with any males.
You don’t know Joyce very well, then. The girl’s a horndog, underneath the “gotta save it for marriage” veneer her upbringing imposed on her.
I totally ship Joyce/every woman on campus now.
Absolutely NOTHING to do with the comic but I just got DOA book2 in the mail! Love the free bookmark!<3
Never change, Walky.
You know Walky, YOU could shove your head in between your girlfriend’s legs instead of Joyce.
You know, we’ve seen a slight sex scene with Sal. I’d be interested in seeing a slight sex scene with Walky. He seems like he’d get all hot and heavy and then be like, “Is that a boob hair? I didn’t know boobs could have little hairs! That’s so weird! Wait…where are you going???”
What do you “mean instead of”? Shouldn’t that be “in alternation with?”
DON’T DENY ME — er, I mean Walky — OUR DREAMS OF HOT LESBIAN SEXINGS!!
>,> i wouldn’t have put it that crudely, but. *Ships it*