You know, sometimes it’s *really* hard not to read these comments and think that the characters themselves are trapped in some extra-dimensional space and talking about their own comic. Or in the above case, reflecting on fond memories while having an after-cigarette.
LOL already b&? come on willis, you don’t even think my words merit being aired? Why not at least hang me on my own petard? You really are buttfrustrated aren’t you?
Wait, really? That’s really all it takes to get a deleted comment? I’ve always wanted to troll someone to the point of getting deleted. Lemme come up with a decent alternate name, and we’ll see how quickly I can get banned.
Not with this account of course, because I actually do like Willis and his comics, but this is an unpushed giant red button that’s just begging to be pushed.
It could be a dream sequence, or it might just end (somehow) before anything really happens. Neither would surprise me at this point. We will probably know for certain next week.
But there is butt cleavage in this story line. Wouldn’t the Butts Disease be more likely to keep Willis on this track where their is at least a partially visible butt?
Well, yes. Assuming Jason would fix her grades in return may be a little foolish. But I don’t think she’s really just in it for the grades. Of course it’s possible she’ll lose interest having relieved her frustrations…
Well, sure. Just don’t pull it too hard. You pull it then the world is retroactively filled with nipple shots from every angle! Life becomes more of a porn than it is!
If it was the blue skin babe, then it’s the Snow Queen from the Oglaf webcomic, if you meant the proper looking one with the blue/green hair and red glasses, that was Miku Hatsume.
Today’s brown haired girl with red glasses was Misaka from the Railgun anime but I have changed it again by the time you see this message.
Yeah, this ain’t going to end well. Either Jason gets her kicked out for trying to solicit sex from a teacher or HE gets in trouble for sleeping with a student.
Is Jason a teacher? I thought he was just a tutor, which likely means he’s just a slightly older student.
Or maybe he’s a graduate assistant, which does start to get into professionally compromising territory, but it doesn’t seem like he’s actually teaching the class Sal isn’t doing so well in, so it’s…slightly less compromising?
Speaking as a Math GTA…
He is handling their grades, and probably a fairly large part of their grade comes from the grading he does. It is certainly an ethical no-no. Furthermore it’s grounds for getting fired, which makes things very difficult financially. To top it off, it would kill his chances of getting an academic job anywhere.
In his case, he’d better have his door open (Which nearly everyone would when tutoring. To prevent crap like this). He’d also better begin LOUDLY protesting and hope someone without an ax to grind hears him. He’s in a really bad situation right now.
I hate to be the one to say it, because I’ll sound like a total perv, but where’s her bra? From panel 2, it looks like she might not be wearing one (a strapless, maybe?). Wouldn’t that be uncomfortable given the size of her breasts?
That said, finally. Totally been waiting for this. I wonder how Jason will react?
I don’t think Sal would be uncomfortable without a bra? Her breasts seem bigger than Dina’s but smaller than Amber’s. I know lots of gals that are Sal’s size that are okay with a shirt on and no bra.
That said, I don’t know how the physics of riding braless on a motorcycle work…
I know there’s a limit to how emotive beady black dot eyes can be, but at first it kinda looked to me like he was staring at her navel and ignoring the more notable features of her torso entirely.
I have two threesome jokes, a porno joke, and a rule 34 reference.
None of them are as funny when typed out, so I’ll just leave them to your imaginations…
I really don’t approve of women who use sex to manipulate people or to get things that they haven’t earned (like high marks).
I’ve been debating with myself on whether this is slut-shaming or not.
As for Sal’s actions, I don’t mind her trying to have sex with a man she finds attractive (trying to because I think Jason will stop this), and she seems to consider earning good marks a bonus (at least from my interpretation of her face).
What I really disapprove is that she hasn’t considered (or doesn’t care) all the trouble Jason could get in for this. That’s just inconsiderate and selfish.
Judging based on what she said, I think she means more “My grades are fucked anyway, so I might as well do some fucking for fun, because it doesn’t matter how much effort I put into trying to learn things so I might as well enjoy myself instead.”
She’s really not doing it to get better marks. She’s doing it because because she’s impulsive, hasn’t gotten any for a while, impulsive, horny, impulsive, Jason is kind of cute right now and she also doesn’t have great self control.
Actually, by reiterating that she’ll only be judged on her marks, not her effort, she’s trying to say “I’m not seducing you for the grade, because I know the “effort” is not something that’ll count toward my grade anyway. I’m seducing you because I DAMN WELL FEEL LIKE IT.”
The way I interpreted it was, “Since effort doesn’t matter, just grades, I’m gonna stop trying futilely to work for my grades and just “convince” you to give me the grade I want.”
The perkiness isn’t just apparent in this panel, though. They’re as high and perky in a shirt without a bra as, say… uh. Someone in the comic with smaller boobs. Dina’s a bit too small to serve as a comparison, and everyone else is pretty close in size.
As far as realistic portrayals of boobs go in the Dumbiverse, I’d definitely lean towards Billie’s.
Holy crap, two amazing comics in one day by one dude. Crazy awesome drama in Shortpacked, and MULTIPLE compelling romantic plotlines in DOA.
How is this done?
Not sure if you’re using this as a way to be a smartass, or if you are being serious. BranTheQuixotic is using romantic as a term to mean a relationship that’s more than just friends, as indicated by the context.
I anticipate this as well. Mayhaps someone redheaded and British forgot something and will find something else. Or join something, or break it up, or take some part or all of it for her self, or…
I saw a comment yesterday, where Willis said not to get ahead of ourselves, when a commentor mentioned Sal’s elbow looked like her breast.
I DID NOT TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY!
He’s her TA. He grades her work. Whether Sal is the instigator or not, the school is going to see it as Jason taking advantage.
As for actual “taking advantage”, I don’t see it from either side. She’s putting moves on him, yes, but he’s not helpless, clueless, or otherwise impaired. He could turn her down.
Which is funny, because I’ve noticed YOUR comments are… oh, right, you’re one of the best people here :p
But seriously, I’m not playing devil’s advocate here. I didn’t even look at the vibe of the discussion before posting this time. A student having sex with a teacher for good grades is many kinds of wrong. A teacher agreeing to have sex with a student for grades is EXTREMELY wrong. yes, yes, they’re a cute couple, and it’s SAL and whatever, but… it’s squicky and wrong. And as has been said, he’s in a position of power, and she’s just made it clear she’s doing it for her grades. This is kind of non-trollish. This is awful.
So no, he would NOT be a pretty awesome person for taking advantage of it. Don’t be sick.
My cousin’s ex wife had constant ass cleavage going on. Sometimes you saw a thong, sometimes not. I’m thinking/hoping that just because it wasn’t visible, didn’t mean it wasn’t there.
Also, the idea of leather pants and commando for a lady sounds bad for both the lady and the pants.
Regardless of all the downsides on this: student expelled, teacher suspended, Penny walks in right now….
I agree with above statement earlier that Sal is saying Jason “will do” because she knows she’s not getting the math nor the grade, so to Hell with it-Sal is not known for time consuming well thought out moves. She thinks it, she does it.
Jason dosen’t. I think he is still thinking of what the consequences will be. No matter which way … it ain’t gonna end well. But then…
I asumed this was going to be Jason’s imagination, then I went to the last comic and saw Sal blushing. Not that this was out of the blue, but it still seems alittle fanfic-ish.
I noticed it. It made me think if Willis was going for the more subtle/ realistic blush or the fact that its a bit harder to see a blush on brown skin..
Okay, I never read any of the other comics before DoA, so I have no reservations about this pairing. I’m pretty psyched. But did I misinterpret? The comments are talking about him being a full teacher but I though he was just a TA?
There are still quite often policies against such a relationship because of the imbalance of power and the distinct possibility of the relationship causing all sorts of fairness issues where the class is concerned.
What Tandel said. Doesn’t matter whether you’re a full professor, an associate, tenured or not, or ‘just’ a TA.
If you’re in a position of authority over students, boning them (even if it’s solicited) is a big-time abuse of trust and authority, and can not only get the instructor in trouble, but can cause legal issues for the institution as well.
My cursory google search revealed that at least at one university, the prohibition lasts only as long as you’re enrolled in the class. And I believe that’s just in relation to a TA. Relations with professors are almost certainly a bit more stringent.
Then there’s the two years rule for psychotherapists/clients… Don’t think/know if there’s one for lawyers/clients…
It’s weird, I don’t think we ever got specifically informed of any policies with regard to relationships with students when I was a TA. I was TAing as an undergrad, though, I don’t know if they ever gave us a rundown on university policies like that at all, come to think of it.
If it’d ever become an issue for me personally, though, there was always at least one other TA whose section the student could have been moved into, so I wouldn’t have had any control over their grading.
I was wondering in what manner the Jason/Sal relationship was going to quintessentially differ from the Walkyverse; Sal pursuing him instead. Naturally, it’s going way faster this time.
And either that hand on her back is for balance or I think she’s about to change his lowly opinion of her quite rapidly.
Well, perhaps, but that’s not what I was getting at–after all, Billie and Danny didn’t go through with it. What I’m talking about, more or less, is in both cases we have female characters jumping male ones out of sexual desperation during what were supposed to be informative encounters.
Which, really, isn’t out of character for either of them, but I am wondering if this is setting up a “not so different” thing for Sal and Billie (more likely) or if Willis forgot that we’ve done this scene already (less likely.)
While I do know about memes and other internet stuff better than most guys of my generation, I still manage to miss certain aspects of internet based youth culture from time to time and ‘wats dis’ was one of them unfortunately.
Actually it’s a pretty old meme so it’s possible and understandable if you miss it. It stem from a raid on (old) youtube when a bunch of people upload a lot of porns at the same time. A kid said those words and the rest is (internet) history.
I’m secretly hoping that there’s an extremely thick fourth wall here, and they are actually shooting a porno. Penny will return having “forgotten” her book, and we will start zooming out until we see the borders of the video, then the logo of the website (pornhut) then Joe watching it.
Then Joe can look towards the reader and say something like “I’d buy that for a dollar!” then it zooms out further and someone else is watching him. Fourthwallception.
I’m probably in the minority here, but I’m hoping Jason rejects Sal.
It would be crushing for her — to be sexually-rejected by someone who has already made her feel inadequate intellectually — and probably hit Sal harder than another form of rejection, since one imagines her desirability is one thing Sal has confidence in. (Albeit possibly confidence just as fragile as the rest of her artificial “I don’t care what anybody thinks about me, you can tell because smoking and riding a motorcycle are not even REMOTELY considered universally cool!” shtick.)
But at the same time, I think sex based on mutual antagonism is a really bad idea, and Jason has been so intensely disrespectful of Sal in every way, and trying to sex him up just comes across as a [futile] grab for power (and respect) in this situation. As others have said, the real solution here is for Sal to get another tutor, preferably one who recognizes “that emotion you humans call empathy”.
Willis, I give you credit for seemingly deliberately crafting a story entirely centered around terrible relationships entered into for the wrong reasons; it certainly lives up to the comic’s name. But I’m more than ready for at least ONE relationship or even fleeting sexual encounter in this strip that isn’t a horrible mistake everyone involved will regret later.
I’m with you in hoping that Jason has the will-power of Danny and then some. He needs to tell Sal “No.”, and walk away. Both because she is clearly acting in desperation and throwing herself at him and also more importantly because of the professional ethical situation involved.
hmmm, his reaction in panel 3 after she is already clearly taking off her shirt as opposed to makes it less likely that he will do the “right” thing, but I still hope he will come to his senses and say “No.”
I agree with this entirely, and it’s a little ironic, because original flavor Sal and Jason is my favorite relationship in the entire Walkyverse. But this is just such a bad idea on so many levels, not least of which being that they probably didn’t lock the door.
While I have read most of the other comics, I read DoA first and caught up on the others later and read rather quickly, so I don’t actually remember how Sal and Jason interact in the other Universes.
Person in position of power having sex with someone they have power over: NEVER OKAY**.
I could approve of this relationship after she finishes the class, and not a moment before. Could.
I predict that this will go in a generally awesome Willis-style direction that makes me want to high-five Willis, but I am a bit unnerved at how much people are approving of this coupling, as if their lovely bodies and mutual attraction were reason enough to ignore the circumstances.
If I’m wrong about Willis I will say “DAMN YOU WILLIS” and quit the internet for a little while because I’m taking the wrong parts of it seriously.
*Provided it’s in healthy, mutually consensual ways. This is not healthy and seems iffy on the mutual consent. Horniness is not consent. Jason is still the one in the wrong if he fucks her, because he’s the one in power over her.
**If it is because they are raping you it’s not okay for different reasons.
In my opinion this is only wrong in a moral sense IF Jason takes abuses his position of power over Sal. If he doesn’t unfairly favor her academically because he’s sleeping with her, and if he never tries to leverage his power to get sex from her, then I don’t think it’s so bad really.
I think it is probably wrong in terms of university policy, and the policy is there to try and protect students from the potential abuse and to protect it’s own reputation. Even if he’s being impartial and non-rapey, it looks bad to have university staff boinking students. Though I believe some institutions have a “conflict of interest” policy where so long as no conflict of interest exists, staff-student relationships are not against policy.
Is this a good idea? No. But I don’t think it is necessarily non-consensual or morally wrong (morals and university policy being distinct). Though it could be come that way very rapidly, hence the not a good idea part.
But Jason has the option to abuse his position of power and Sal doesn’t. Simply having the option is, in itself, exercising power, even if it is inadvertent on Jason’s part. This is why a teacher-student or even TA-student relationship is always flawed.
By the same token, though, any male-female relationship is also flawed. Any person-person relationship is flawed. Because different people always bring different ‘powers’ to the relationship. One just has to be careful not to tip the scales too far, because (healthy) relationships depend on mutual respect.
Given that there is absolutely no respect for Sal coming from Jason, I would say that this tips the scales too far.
Mmmmm I think I disagree regarding “having power even if you don’t use it but could” being an exercise of power. What of anyone who has been in a relationship with someone of greater physical strength? Is the weaker person therefore being abused simply because their partner POSSESSES strength no matter how gentle they are?
If Jason doesn’t abuse his power, I don’t have a problem with this. If he does, I do. Just sayin’.
I’m not saying Jason is automatically abusing his power. I’m saying there is automatically a power imbalance. Jason has the option to exercise power in this relationship, and that option – the option to exercise power – is itself ‘power’ in the relationship, which he can’t escape. Consequently, there is a power imbalance.
And of course, that’s not the only way that power can exist in a relationship, and there are bound to be many ways in which Sal is more powerful than Jason in the relationship, but this TA-student relationship is a big one. And again, power doesn’t work on a ‘sum-together-all-the-pieces-of-power-acting-in-which-direction-and-you’re-let-with-the-net-power-imbalance’ basis, because physical strength and relative self-image, for example, are just not comparable – they affect the relationship in completely different ways (or rather, they are distantly-connected components of the relationship).
But my point overall is that power imbalances, intentional or otherwise, are generally bad for a relationship, but that while this isn’t a firm basis on which to judge the strength of a relationship, the level of mutual respect is, and power relationships affect (and include and are affected by) respect – and there’s none coming from Jason.
If anyone’s studying Foucalt, I apologise for the similarities between my explanation of my opinion and his philosophy, which you are no doubt tired of reading. I miss my gender studies course.
When I say that Jason is automatically ‘exercising power’, I mean that ‘having’ is a verb, and so he is exercising the power by having it, even if he doesn’t want to. The power is still affecting the relationship.
In the words of my grad student partner, from their work as a T.A. fresh out of undergrad: “you realize very quickly just how young 18 is. These guys are KIDS.”
Well, this could be a possible explanation for the insatiable demand for state U grads in the employment market. It also sheds some light on the rationale for the naming of this comic.
True. All it does it take your mind off the pleasure while it happens. In my experience, the best way to control this issue for reals is to simply slow down.
She’s happier here. No Head Alien that hunting her down all the time. No parents that dragged her around the states every couple months. No “I don’t know Walky is my brother” worries.
am i the only person who thinks this is rapey on Sal’s part? i mean, she didn’t even ask him, and he didn’t seem interested.
is… is it because she’s a biker?
Jason’s expression in the third panel seems oddly calm/curious. “Female student is removing her top and throwing it at my head while making a leading statement. Let’s see where this is going… wait, now she’s on my knee and my shirt’s open. THIS WAS NOT A RESULT I WAS PREPARED FOR.”
Or maybe he’s used to this sort of thing, and the shock is when he realizes that “marks” refer to the bites and scratches he’s going to have to explain in the morning.
Man, so much to say about today’s comic. Sal has always been hot. Hotness of any female is described on a scale based off of Sal. But this may be about the hottest Sal has ever been. Sideboob. chucking off shirt. Ripping off Jason’s shirt. I think my favorite is how she’s not just straddling him, she’s got one hand lifting up his right leg there…
Nothing will ever be this hot again.
Go Jason/Sal! Live forever! (which never happens while Willis is around.)
Anyone ever just scroll to see whatever David posts here before reading all the comments? It’s like searching for those legendary holographics before going for the rest of the cards.
I think Jason just nodded off and is dreaming this; making him realize he has feelings for Sal and making their future interactions akward. With Jason having feelings for Sal and Sal being unaware, just like in Its Walky.
I’m not saying this is all Joyce’s fault, but it occurs to me: if Joyce hadn’t pushed Sal to get help with her math, this probably wouldn’t have happened.
Oh, the poor girl. If she’d just honestly used the most direct reason it would have been infuriating if he hadn’t gone along with it, but having used the marks attempt he /has/ to refuse on integrity grounds. If he didn’t, it would mean he was actually an alien or serial murderer or someone wearing Jason’s skin like a coat.
That said, if he has any finesse at all, he’ll be able to sardonically smash any hopes of mark altering through this while penetrating (pun maybeish intended?) to the heart of her motivation and seeing the matter through to its end. There’s risk from doing such in a public office, but that’s within his range of acceptability (maybe? Well, since it’s Sal at least).
Not high hopes held regarding finesse, granted…
(And, after a little thought, there’s a voice chirping in the back of my mind that him refusing is, traditionally, what will cement her impression of him as a {good person}/{desirable target}, paving the way for a lasting relationship rather than a fling. Deeply satisfying on one level, deeply frustrating on another. Hm.)
Do… people really do this?
I did not see this coming. Without the comments on the previous page I had no idea this would occur. And given this did occur, I cannot believe it is not part of the zany bare-threads continuity of, say, Shortpacked!.
How little self control will this college math professor be seen to have? And how is Sal this unwell?
Jason needs to get some sun, the boy is like a pasty corpse.
Penny is gonna be SO MAD! Haha, some part of me still wants to see her all crazy and one-eyed, about to kill Jason. F*ck him and then cut him to pieces! First things first.
Willis, in response to your Tumblr post wondering if people actually take their shirts off in that manner, I do. I do so with the specific intent that they be inside out when I am done. This help protect the silkscreen of my t-shirts while they’re in the wash.
You know, after the whole bit with Penny complaining that she threw herself at Jason, actually did have sex with him, and still wasn’t getting anywhere, this seems particularly odd for Sal to proceed in doing the exact same thing. Especially after having recently read the early Roomies sequence in which her sole defining characteristic was being horny. Isn’t the point of Dumbing to do it better than younger David Willis did? Unless she’s hoping to blackmail and/or bribe Jason into passing her through the class despite her sucking at math? That’s just practical, then, if still somewhat, um, “premarital hanky-panky”.
Wow… I’m actually kinda sad at how predictable this was. I had it in my head that this is how it would go down, where it would go down, in my head since she said she’d be impaled on the pole up his ass. Still, it’s an enjoyable predictable plot point.
Y’know, I really can’t imagine Sal as the type to use her body to get good grades. I had entirely figured this strip as being about her blowing off steam until I read the comments and other folks had come to the conclusion that she was trying to manipulate the TA with sex. She doesn’t seem the type.
Then again, I wouldn’t have figured Sal for the casual sex type other. Shows what I know.
Galdurnit Sal, hatebanging your TA is going to end poorly somehow. Partially because this comic likes to have drama (which is good) but also because HATEBANGING AUTHORITY FIGURES IS RISKY!!
I immediately thought of Dracula dead and loving when Renfield was sleeping and the vampire girls started molesting the bed posts: “What ARE you doing the furniture” lol and I read Jason’s lines in Renfields voice…
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Get some! On behalf of all of us, Jason!
In the name of the moon, GET SOME!
That hot caramel moon.
Oh damn….
Holy shit. I was right. It’s Sal/Jason.
So would this be Jasal or Salon? (Assuming it’s more than just a quickie)
Salon is the more sophisticated-sounding one of the two.
Let’s go with Jasal.
I prefer Sasson.
Jassons about to be an Assason
Vidal Sasson
Sore Vidal
I’ll go with “salon” (the fact it means “classroom” in spanish is ironic)
I wouldn’t exactly call this a romantic situation, as far as slash pairings go.
Your face is perfect.
Yes, her faaaaaaacccccceee, is perfect.
Well, the question was who bones first, so a romantic pairing isn’t really necessary.
That has NOT been decided. Wait for it…
Plus, nothing has been consummated yet, we just have some stripping and getting-stripped going on at this point.
Since when was that ever needed for fictional internet boinkings?
THIS.
Boinking first, love confirmation latter.
Aren’t “slash” pairings specifically homosexual ones?
oh……………I dunno yet. Hasnt happend…………….YET. I guess we will all see on Mon or Tues lol
So was I! Also, that pun about marks is just awesome!
Wasn’t sure about that one myself.
“marks” as in targets, or “marks” as in fingernail scars she’s going to leave on his back?
also called it
I’m sorry, but I believe Mike/Your Mom beat them to the punch.
Only for most readers.
Not only that, you got some TASTEFUL SIDEBOOB
abandon ship! abandon ship!
The nearest ship is Joe/Dina! (or we call it The Dinoe!)
Grab the life savers!
Humm..I wonder.
If the Dinoe ran aground would that make it the Dinoe Shore?
And is that really a ship that’s going to leave drydock at all? I just cant see that pairing holding water.
best Gravatar for that comment/speculation
Still a better love story than Jersey Shore.
You’re the first person I’ve ever heard refer to Jersey Shore as a “love story.”
She wants to see if Jason’s a crack shot with his rifle.
I just hope that he doesn’t ‘shoot’ too soon.
The English are disciplined. They only fire when commanded.
I hope he got his safety on.
Watch out for that recoil!
No worries college chairs can take the recoil. Plus if they do fall, it’ll just become a ground war.
I hope Sal shave, or it will be a jungle warfare.
I think thats still one punji pit I’d still plunge into.
Ok you win.
Thats what they about the previous chair.
RIP chair.
Also the every piece of furniture in the room joyce & walky first PMHP’d in.
British are well known for their sniping/sharpshooting skills….
Oh yeah, Sal will surely get a load of his bolt action.
He he…bolt
She has no whites in her eyes, how’s he gonna know when to shoot?
I’ve waited the entire run of DoA for this… ^o^
So it’s all downhill from here on?
Or it grows wings and flies… into the depths of depravity.
You know, sometimes it’s *really* hard not to read these comments and think that the characters themselves are trapped in some extra-dimensional space and talking about their own comic. Or in the above case, reflecting on fond memories while having an after-cigarette.
This will only end in tears. I have yet to decide who will be the one crying.
The audience?
Jason will. From his penis.
And not a nickel will be given.
Argh, beat me to the nickel reference….
Joe, and possibly Mike.
Well, she already tear his clothes….
Crying! I’ll be laughing my ass off.
The English weep only over the spilling of beer, port, and tea. All other things are the domain of the stiff upper lip.
Well, that escalated quickly.
LOL already b&? come on willis, you don’t even think my words merit being aired? Why not at least hang me on my own petard? You really are buttfrustrated aren’t you?
Oh, they’re definitely being aired: http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/41424401874/this-was-just-kind-of-boring-until-i-got-to-the-i
Wait, really? That’s really all it takes to get a deleted comment? I’ve always wanted to troll someone to the point of getting deleted. Lemme come up with a decent alternate name, and we’ll see how quickly I can get banned.
Not with this account of course, because I actually do like Willis and his comics, but this is an unpushed giant red button that’s just begging to be pushed.
I like to think I evened things out by the fact that I did buy something from Willis earlier this week … which is rare for me.
Oh snap! *clicks fingers*
“b&”? Seriously?
Nope. Who could possibly take that seriously?
I don’t even understand. “Bampersand”?
b + “and”.
banned.
I was joking.
Ah well, I s’pose it wasn’t a very good joke anyway.
I got a chuckle out of it. Good work on you.
honestly my reaction was ‘B& huh?” wait a few moments ‘Band?’ and then continue reading to get banned
Someone’s clearly never been to 4chan.
I *understand* it, I just think it’s really stupid.
And kind of odd, when the rest of the posts are written in mostly legible English.
(And no, I haven’t. Nothing I have heard of it makes me have any desire to look into it.)
I don’t want to see 4chan attitudes outside of 4chan.
Well, that erected quickly.
yes
The title says it all for my reaction.
Also, bless Jason’s messed up hair. I like it better than the circular shaping.
The best title would have been: “U wot M8?”
Yeah…dat hair. Mmf. It looks gooooooood.
I think there’s a fetish where some women love to ravage their man’s well combed hair.
my hair is longer than my girlfriend’s and she loves nothing more THAN TOTALLY MESSING IT UP. AFTER I BRUSH IT METICULOUSLY. EVERY MORNING.
Nooo!!! Why?! Please be a dream sequence…
It could be a dream sequence, or it might just end (somehow) before anything really happens. Neither would surprise me at this point. We will probably know for certain next week.
Next week we’ll cut to a different storyline and Willis will keep us in suspense.
He can’t help it. Butts Disease is a horrible condition.
But there is butt cleavage in this story line. Wouldn’t the Butts Disease be more likely to keep Willis on this track where their is at least a partially visible butt?
their … instead of there … this has never happened to me before … I’m stunned.
that’s what they all say
You know what? I personally hope it goes something like “I’m not going to give you grades for this.” “I don’t care.” “Fine.”
Well, yes. Assuming Jason would fix her grades in return may be a little foolish. But I don’t think she’s really just in it for the grades. Of course it’s possible she’ll lose interest having relieved her frustrations…
It would still be a bad idea for him, job wise.
…Why?
Bros bros bros bros bros bros bros!
Boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs!
For a more accurate insight of Jason´s current thoughts. XD
That’s some pure glorious Sal sideboob right there. Soak it in, boys and girls, soak it in.
too bad I’m at work right now or I might’ve
ogledstared at it for another thirty minutes.Also, I want panel 2 embiggened.
Cromulent!
That sound you hear is Animal’s head exploding with sheer joy.
Some Tumblr action would be good. Please. Thank you.
What, no nipple tag?
Well, sure. Just don’t pull it too hard. You pull it then the world is retroactively filled with nipple shots from every angle! Life becomes more of a porn than it is!
You say that like it’s a bad thing. 😀
It would actually be kinda amazing if Joe pulled a Nipple Tag and then all the guys started walking around shirtless.
I vote for this. This needs to happen.
Seconded
So, it’s settled then. WE DEMAND A NIPPLE TAG. The turn-world-into-more-porn kind, I mean. Well, we’d best start looking. ::begins disrobing::
Heya Plasma. Im getting an awesome Amy Mizuno/Sailor Mercury vibe from your avatar. Might I ask what series she f is from?
If it was the blue skin babe, then it’s the Snow Queen from the Oglaf webcomic, if you meant the proper looking one with the blue/green hair and red glasses, that was Miku Hatsume.
Today’s brown haired girl with red glasses was Misaka from the Railgun anime but I have changed it again by the time you see this message.
what is this one on Saturday, January 26th, 2013
Possibly, but we cannot see it/them from this angle. Then again, I don’t think that’s her kind of kink.
The real question is: Left, Right, Both, or Neither?
Nipple tag should be in place because of Jason’s nipple, not Sal’s, is what they’re saying.
Only few notice Jason’s :p
Don’t you mean only few guys? I’m sure the all the ladies noticed Jason’s nipple.
Mmmmm, Jason’s nipple.
But Willis has tagged nipples before, at least in SP!
I would do jason in the last panel. ADORABLE
Dat avatar and dat comment…..
Dat perfect response avatar.
All of the above avvies are perfect.
Is it weird that I uttered the exact same phrase when I was once pounced upon unexpectedly?
It depends. Are you an English math TA?
If so then yes, because that’s quite the coincidence.
No I’m nothing of the sort.
But yes that would be quite the coincidence.
BOOBIES
I’m half convinced that Jason is going to stop it before it starts in the next one just so Willis can mess with our expectations.
I second this, Jason seems to have too many morals to allow anything like this happen
On the other hand (pun incoming), he is holding her by the midsection. Sideboob style.
Yeah, this ain’t going to end well. Either Jason gets her kicked out for trying to solicit sex from a teacher or HE gets in trouble for sleeping with a student.
Either way, they’re boned.
I dare say boning is a pre-requisite for such outcomes, so boning it is!
It’s a prerequisite for all incomes.
…
If you know what I mean… ‘,:)
Is Jason a teacher? I thought he was just a tutor, which likely means he’s just a slightly older student.
Or maybe he’s a graduate assistant, which does start to get into professionally compromising territory, but it doesn’t seem like he’s actually teaching the class Sal isn’t doing so well in, so it’s…slightly less compromising?
He’s handling their grades, I think, which would make this a definite ethical no-no.
Speaking as a Math GTA…
He is handling their grades, and probably a fairly large part of their grade comes from the grading he does. It is certainly an ethical no-no. Furthermore it’s grounds for getting fired, which makes things very difficult financially. To top it off, it would kill his chances of getting an academic job anywhere.
In his case, he’d better have his door open (Which nearly everyone would when tutoring. To prevent crap like this). He’d also better begin LOUDLY protesting and hope someone without an ax to grind hears him. He’s in a really bad situation right now.
He’s a teaching assistant. He grades her work. It would be, at the least, a conflict of interests.
Also, he started it all by undoing his bow tie in the previous comic.
“Yeah. Just look at how he was dressed”?
“He was asking for it”
Considering that she once called him Pee-wee Herman, that just seems weird.
Today I learnt that Sal doesn’t believe in bras. 😀
I was wondering if anyone besides me had noticed.
It’s never just you
I hate to be the one to say it, because I’ll sound like a total perv, but where’s her bra? From panel 2, it looks like she might not be wearing one (a strapless, maybe?). Wouldn’t that be uncomfortable given the size of her breasts?
That said, finally. Totally been waiting for this. I wonder how Jason will react?
I don’t think Sal would be uncomfortable without a bra? Her breasts seem bigger than Dina’s but smaller than Amber’s. I know lots of gals that are Sal’s size that are okay with a shirt on and no bra.
That said, I don’t know how the physics of riding braless on a motorcycle work…
Uncomfortable at best. The leather jacket would probably help with it a bit, though it would cause a lot of boob sweat still at this time of year.
@A. Silva: You’re worried about sounding like a total perv here?
My boobs are bigger than hers appear to be, and my bra comes off the second I’m home because my boobs are only comfortable without one.
You need a better-fitting bra. You should not be that uncomfortable.
“Marks” is a term I’ve never encountered as a stand-in for “boobs” before. Still, I’m not complaining. I’m Sal-ivating!
…I’ll see myself out.
boooooooooooooo
ooooobs
I for one liked that pun. ^_^
SAL-acious remarks like that cannot be tolerated….3 demerits!!
I’m pretty sure we can come up with a decent SAL-vo of puns in response.
punny things are completely alright.
I took it to mean that she has some interesting tattoos that we will sadly not get to judge for ourselves (curse you Willis!)
I was thinking tattoos as well… and I kind of like the idea of an, uh, “lower front” tattoo on our beloved Sal.
About time.
I know there’s a limit to how emotive beady black dot eyes can be, but at first it kinda looked to me like he was staring at her navel and ignoring the more notable features of her torso entirely.
“Wow, she’s an outie.”
Then he discovers to his horror that the bulge in question is NOT her bellybutton.
Fencing time?
Plot twist: Sal and Walky really are *identical* twins.
Duh….duh…DUHHHHHH!!
WELL! I must be the only one here who didn’t see that coming at all.
He’s not coming yet. Unless it’s American Pie (the first movie of course).
I never thought about it until just now, but I think Sal is exactly the kind of person who would leave her gloves on while bangin’.
Poor Penny…
I have two threesome jokes, a porno joke, and a rule 34 reference.
None of them are as funny when typed out, so I’ll just leave them to your imaginations…
Well, things have certainly escalated quickly.
I really don’t approve of women who use sex to manipulate people or to get things that they haven’t earned (like high marks).
I’ve been debating with myself on whether this is slut-shaming or not.
As for Sal’s actions, I don’t mind her trying to have sex with a man she finds attractive (trying to because I think Jason will stop this), and she seems to consider earning good marks a bonus (at least from my interpretation of her face).
What I really disapprove is that she hasn’t considered (or doesn’t care) all the trouble Jason could get in for this. That’s just inconsiderate and selfish.
Judging based on what she said, I think she means more “My grades are fucked anyway, so I might as well do some fucking for fun, because it doesn’t matter how much effort I put into trying to learn things so I might as well enjoy myself instead.”
Hence “You’ll do.”
You’re close to the line, so don’t push it. I really don’t think she’s like that.
Do you only disapprove of WOMEN who do this? Because men do things like this, too.
You’re right, manipulative men suck too.
She’s really not doing it to get better marks. She’s doing it because because she’s impulsive, hasn’t gotten any for a while, impulsive, horny, impulsive, Jason is kind of cute right now and she also doesn’t have great self control.
Actually, by reiterating that she’ll only be judged on her marks, not her effort, she’s trying to say “I’m not seducing you for the grade, because I know the “effort” is not something that’ll count toward my grade anyway. I’m seducing you because I DAMN WELL FEEL LIKE IT.”
I think she is just doing it to clear her head, so she can stop being distracted by sex and focus on her learning, that’s what I read
The way I interpreted it was, “Since effort doesn’t matter, just grades, I’m gonna stop trying futilely to work for my grades and just “convince” you to give me the grade I want.”
also, don’t forget Jason started stripping first, to god her into this. how could she resist with the untied bowtie. how i ask you?
Sal doesn’t strike me as someone who spends too much time considering the consequences of her actions.
Very few things are immune to being punched HARD. I’d imagine girl knows how to deal with… consequences.
Now that’s hot. Also, no bra? She’s got extremely perky breasts for their apparent size, then…
Well she is young and as a comic character, perkiness is a common female ‘superpower’. 🙂
“WONDER-TWIN POWERS, ACTIVATE!”
“COMMENCING LAUNCH PROTOCOL!”
“LAUNCH SUCCEEDED!”
It’s because they’re carved out of caramel.
Maybe they are mid-bounce, I mean she did seemingly jump over that desk and onto him
The perkiness isn’t just apparent in this panel, though. They’re as high and perky in a shirt without a bra as, say… uh. Someone in the comic with smaller boobs. Dina’s a bit too small to serve as a comparison, and everyone else is pretty close in size.
As far as realistic portrayals of boobs go in the Dumbiverse, I’d definitely lean towards Billie’s.
Jason’s face in panel three: completely unfazed.
I don’t think
they’veit’s quite hit him yet.wat
Holy crap, two amazing comics in one day by one dude. Crazy awesome drama in Shortpacked, and MULTIPLE compelling romantic plotlines in DOA.
How is this done?
Time, talent and technology!
I’m going to be honest, I like what happened in DoA right now but I dislike what happened in Shortpacked.
Sorry Willis.
Wouldn’t really call this compelling romantic stuff. She just wants some sex and he’s a guy that likes women, ergo he likes breasts.
Not sure if you’re using this as a way to be a smartass, or if you are being serious. BranTheQuixotic is using romantic as a term to mean a relationship that’s more than just friends, as indicated by the context.
Allo, allo. What’s all this then?
I anticipate this as well. Mayhaps someone redheaded and British forgot something and will find something else. Or join something, or break it up, or take some part or all of it for her self, or…
An American and Britain joint venture.
German is not allowed to join.
I’m still betting on Mike/Your Mom.
I want to make a algerbra/bra pun but I the best I can do is “Sal, d’yer bra is gone”.
No Algebra? more like no All-her-bra!
Oi! Wot’s ohll this then?! I shall ‘ave to call out the constuhbull if you don’t cease ohll this muckin’ about!
I saw a comment yesterday, where Willis said not to get ahead of ourselves, when a commentor mentioned Sal’s elbow looked like her breast.
I DID NOT TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY!
This seems rather… porn like.
For this to be porn it need cheesy jazz music in the background.
And for them to be discovered by someone else, only for that person to join in.
That’s when Penny enter the equation.
Brown chicken brown chicken brown chicken brown brown!
And then Penny walks in the room, witht he intention of picking up that book she forgot.
Then threesome happened.
that’s a hell of angle on jason’s right leg
His leg is also really, really long. His thigh is substantially longer than his torso
Though I can see how there might be other torsos in the picture that might have distracted from this detail.
He would be a pretty terrible person if he took advantage of one of his students like this.
He would be a pretty awesome person if he took advantage of one of his students like this.
Fixed.
JASON is taking advantage of SAL?
….seriously, that’s your takeaway?
because from my read it’s the exact opposite.
He’s her TA. He grades her work. Whether Sal is the instigator or not, the school is going to see it as Jason taking advantage.
As for actual “taking advantage”, I don’t see it from either side. She’s putting moves on him, yes, but he’s not helpless, clueless, or otherwise impaired. He could turn her down.
We’ve been through this when she abducted him. Her tats give her super strength!
And the tit is mightier then the tat, so he can’t POSSIBLY resist now!
@Spazman: I have noticed over time that Ridureyu’s comments tend to have a devil’s advocate flavour and borders close towards the troll.
I’m glad someone was carrying the torch while I was gone.
Which is funny, because I’ve noticed YOUR comments are… oh, right, you’re one of the best people here :p
But seriously, I’m not playing devil’s advocate here. I didn’t even look at the vibe of the discussion before posting this time. A student having sex with a teacher for good grades is many kinds of wrong. A teacher agreeing to have sex with a student for grades is EXTREMELY wrong. yes, yes, they’re a cute couple, and it’s SAL and whatever, but… it’s squicky and wrong. And as has been said, he’s in a position of power, and she’s just made it clear she’s doing it for her grades. This is kind of non-trollish. This is awful.
So no, he would NOT be a pretty awesome person for taking advantage of it. Don’t be sick.
DAT ASS
There were sixty-nine comments when I arrived here. How appropriate is that? ^^
Funny, the same thing happened to me when I posted to lasted night’s comments…
I think there’ll still be a lot of sixty-nine comments once we’ve all posted, guys.
People are so concerned about side-boob and bras that they fail to notice ass-cleavage and lack of panties.
I’ve seen people with ass crack showing that low that still have underwear on. Unfortunately they are my sister. Which is so much wrong. GUH.
Thanks for sharing
I noticed the ass cleavage!
And leather pants are tight, if they slipped down they’d pull the panties down with them
My cousin’s ex wife had constant ass cleavage going on. Sometimes you saw a thong, sometimes not. I’m thinking/hoping that just because it wasn’t visible, didn’t mean it wasn’t there.
Also, the idea of leather pants and commando for a lady sounds bad for both the lady and the pants.
Regardless of all the downsides on this: student expelled, teacher suspended, Penny walks in right now….
I agree with above statement earlier that Sal is saying Jason “will do” because she knows she’s not getting the math nor the grade, so to Hell with it-Sal is not known for time consuming well thought out moves. She thinks it, she does it.
Jason dosen’t. I think he is still thinking of what the consequences will be. No matter which way … it ain’t gonna end well. But then…
I wonder if Dorothy tried on that Kraft mac n’ Cheese t-shirt that Walky picked up for her…..Oh…is there something going on in today’s comic??
mmmmm, half naked sal
nice
I asumed this was going to be Jason’s imagination, then I went to the last comic and saw Sal blushing. Not that this was out of the blue, but it still seems alittle fanfic-ish.
I had to go back and double-check – I didn’t rellay notice the blush the first time I’ve read the page.
I noticed it. It made me think if Willis was going for the more subtle/ realistic blush or the fact that its a bit harder to see a blush on brown skin..
Only few notice Sal’s blush :/
I mention it but no one want to talk about it.
Well, except Plasma Mongoose. I just checked and thanks for the reply.
Okay, I never read any of the other comics before DoA, so I have no reservations about this pairing. I’m pretty psyched. But did I misinterpret? The comments are talking about him being a full teacher but I though he was just a TA?
There are still quite often policies against such a relationship because of the imbalance of power and the distinct possibility of the relationship causing all sorts of fairness issues where the class is concerned.
What Tandel said. Doesn’t matter whether you’re a full professor, an associate, tenured or not, or ‘just’ a TA.
If you’re in a position of authority over students, boning them (even if it’s solicited) is a big-time abuse of trust and authority, and can not only get the instructor in trouble, but can cause legal issues for the institution as well.
My cursory google search revealed that at least at one university, the prohibition lasts only as long as you’re enrolled in the class. And I believe that’s just in relation to a TA. Relations with professors are almost certainly a bit more stringent.
Then there’s the two years rule for psychotherapists/clients… Don’t think/know if there’s one for lawyers/clients…
It’s weird, I don’t think we ever got specifically informed of any policies with regard to relationships with students when I was a TA. I was TAing as an undergrad, though, I don’t know if they ever gave us a rundown on university policies like that at all, come to think of it.
If it’d ever become an issue for me personally, though, there was always at least one other TA whose section the student could have been moved into, so I wouldn’t have had any control over their grading.
I was wondering in what manner the Jason/Sal relationship was going to quintessentially differ from the Walkyverse; Sal pursuing him instead. Naturally, it’s going way faster this time.
And either that hand on her back is for balance or I think she’s about to change his lowly opinion of her quite rapidly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLoIA5SP7pA
Switch the genders and this would be a bad time…
Oh, Sal, you crazy.
I think Sals bout to become fluent in cockney.
Oh Ow that was bad. True but bad.
omg she did it.
Sal just took a drop.
Well, I guessed wrong on the poll.
I see what you did thar
omg, Jason’s face on the last panel as he stares….there…is priceless 😀
i was kinda getting this vibe yesterday… and then i thought, surely not… but yup. get it Jason! and that is indeed some lovely side-boob sir Willis.
What, what, I say. Show us that stiff upper lip, sir. Take long run-up before you bowl for that wicket!!
Rub it on his trousers?
The next comic opens with one of them waking up.
Or Penny. She likes to watch.And of course Sal has no idea that this sort of thing can get Jason fired… or she doesn’t care. =_=
Yknow, I was half expecting the comments to be completely closed just for the Damn You! points…
And then a week of hiatus filler.
And coming back to Sal suddenly being a math genius after working out her… frustrations.
Darn, there go my Sal/Billie hopes.
That is ALSO NOT decided.
Porn Logic in action!
…’M I the only one who feels a bit like they’re watching a rerun?
I have wondered at times whether the characters of DoA are fated to make the same hookups that their IW! and SP counterparts did…
Well, perhaps, but that’s not what I was getting at–after all, Billie and Danny didn’t go through with it. What I’m talking about, more or less, is in both cases we have female characters jumping male ones out of sexual desperation during what were supposed to be informative encounters.
Which, really, isn’t out of character for either of them, but I am wondering if this is setting up a “not so different” thing for Sal and Billie (more likely) or if Willis forgot that we’ve done this scene already (less likely.)
HELL YES!
I’m so excited, I spilled my tea!
Wow, that’s some mood whiplash when you go from SP to here. XD
Billie told herself that she was still waiting there for her tutoring session, but in reality her heart was broken, and she didn’t have the energy to walk away.
[Image(s) slightly altered from David Willis’ originals.]
Any chance that we can get a front view of Sal in that last panel 🙂
*Queue 70s porn music*
It’s times like these I think to myself why can’t real life be more like comics?
Yeah, that’ll get you out of here alright.
Out of the University.
And possibly some Jail time.
Why Sal always goes for the most dangerous solution is beyond me.
Since they are both adults it can be considered a consensual sex. So no jail time there.
Told you she wasn’t wearing a bra.
I’m 11 and wats dis
Does ‘wats dis’ = wants this or was this?
“What is this”
You’re joking right? You are one of the people here I would absolutely expect to know that meme…
While I do know about memes and other internet stuff better than most guys of my generation, I still manage to miss certain aspects of internet based youth culture from time to time and ‘wats dis’ was one of them unfortunately.
Actually it’s a pretty old meme so it’s possible and understandable if you miss it. It stem from a raid on (old) youtube when a bunch of people upload a lot of porns at the same time. A kid said those words and the rest is (internet) history.
“One person likes this! Be the first of your friend to like this!”
So, when does Jason wake up?
Sal uses boobs!
It is very effective!
Jason is hypnotized!
I’m secretly hoping that there’s an extremely thick fourth wall here, and they are actually shooting a porno. Penny will return having “forgotten” her book, and we will start zooming out until we see the borders of the video, then the logo of the website (pornhut) then Joe watching it.
Then Joe can look towards the reader and say something like “I’d buy that for a dollar!” then it zooms out further and someone else is watching him. Fourthwallception.
I’m probably in the minority here, but I’m hoping Jason rejects Sal.
It would be crushing for her — to be sexually-rejected by someone who has already made her feel inadequate intellectually — and probably hit Sal harder than another form of rejection, since one imagines her desirability is one thing Sal has confidence in. (Albeit possibly confidence just as fragile as the rest of her artificial “I don’t care what anybody thinks about me, you can tell because smoking and riding a motorcycle are not even REMOTELY considered universally cool!” shtick.)
But at the same time, I think sex based on mutual antagonism is a really bad idea, and Jason has been so intensely disrespectful of Sal in every way, and trying to sex him up just comes across as a [futile] grab for power (and respect) in this situation. As others have said, the real solution here is for Sal to get another tutor, preferably one who recognizes “that emotion you humans call empathy”.
Willis, I give you credit for seemingly deliberately crafting a story entirely centered around terrible relationships entered into for the wrong reasons; it certainly lives up to the comic’s name. But I’m more than ready for at least ONE relationship or even fleeting sexual encounter in this strip that isn’t a horrible mistake everyone involved will regret later.
Joe and Roz don’t regret their sexy times.
Hahaha, that’s a good one.
I’m with you in hoping that Jason has the will-power of Danny and then some. He needs to tell Sal “No.”, and walk away. Both because she is clearly acting in desperation and throwing herself at him and also more importantly because of the professional ethical situation involved.
I agree, but judging by Jason’s first reaction to Sal (“right the hell now”), it seems kind of fifty-fifty for me.
It’s just an awful idea all around for the characters to go through with it.
hmmm, his reaction in panel 3 after she is already clearly taking off her shirt as opposed to makes it less likely that he will do the “right” thing, but I still hope he will come to his senses and say “No.”
I agree with this entirely, and it’s a little ironic, because original flavor Sal and Jason is my favorite relationship in the entire Walkyverse. But this is just such a bad idea on so many levels, not least of which being that they probably didn’t lock the door.
While I have read most of the other comics, I read DoA first and caught up on the others later and read rather quickly, so I don’t actually remember how Sal and Jason interact in the other Universes.
Alright, since no one else has said it (no matter how many of you were thinking it), I’ll take the bullet.
“T&A for the TA!!!”
Why am I hearing his lines in Professor Layton’s voice.
Because Prof Layton has sexy man voice.
Bow Chicka Bow Bow
That escalated quickly.
First I am outraged because I read Shortpacked first … but now I come here and see the best comic ever. I’m confused
I guess her cooter DIDN’T retreat for the winter after all….
“Winter is coming”
Sal: “SO WHAT? Let it come again and again and again….”
Man, my posts here today sounds like I’m a dirty old man.
Eh, I don’t care. I prefer to promote love than violence. So yay!
Soon it’ll be all math sexy-talk:
“I’m your derivative, let me lie tangent to your curves” “Rub my manifolds” “Let’s make our sets arc-connected”
“Let’s start multiplying!” is also appropriate if they lack a condom.
What kind of dirty old man equates love with sex? Sounds more like something naive youngster would do.
Yay!
Soft core porn! W00t.
I hope someone brought rubbers.
Oh! No! Wait!
It’ll be far more dramatic if they are both stupid and Sal gets knocked up.
Jason: “We can’t DO this! You’re my student!”
Sal: *holds up filled-out drop slip she’d been keeping in reserve*
Jason: “Right-o.”
Women taking charge of her sexuality: lovely.*
Person in position of power having sex with someone they have power over: NEVER OKAY**.
I could approve of this relationship after she finishes the class, and not a moment before. Could.
I predict that this will go in a generally awesome Willis-style direction that makes me want to high-five Willis, but I am a bit unnerved at how much people are approving of this coupling, as if their lovely bodies and mutual attraction were reason enough to ignore the circumstances.
If I’m wrong about Willis I will say “DAMN YOU WILLIS” and quit the internet for a little while because I’m taking the wrong parts of it seriously.
*Provided it’s in healthy, mutually consensual ways. This is not healthy and seems iffy on the mutual consent. Horniness is not consent. Jason is still the one in the wrong if he fucks her, because he’s the one in power over her.
**If it is because they are raping you it’s not okay for different reasons.
Given Jason’s personality he is probaly not going to let it happen anyways.
In my opinion this is only wrong in a moral sense IF Jason takes abuses his position of power over Sal. If he doesn’t unfairly favor her academically because he’s sleeping with her, and if he never tries to leverage his power to get sex from her, then I don’t think it’s so bad really.
I think it is probably wrong in terms of university policy, and the policy is there to try and protect students from the potential abuse and to protect it’s own reputation. Even if he’s being impartial and non-rapey, it looks bad to have university staff boinking students. Though I believe some institutions have a “conflict of interest” policy where so long as no conflict of interest exists, staff-student relationships are not against policy.
Is this a good idea? No. But I don’t think it is necessarily non-consensual or morally wrong (morals and university policy being distinct). Though it could be come that way very rapidly, hence the not a good idea part.
But Jason has the option to abuse his position of power and Sal doesn’t. Simply having the option is, in itself, exercising power, even if it is inadvertent on Jason’s part. This is why a teacher-student or even TA-student relationship is always flawed.
By the same token, though, any male-female relationship is also flawed. Any person-person relationship is flawed. Because different people always bring different ‘powers’ to the relationship. One just has to be careful not to tip the scales too far, because (healthy) relationships depend on mutual respect.
Given that there is absolutely no respect for Sal coming from Jason, I would say that this tips the scales too far.
Mmmmm I think I disagree regarding “having power even if you don’t use it but could” being an exercise of power. What of anyone who has been in a relationship with someone of greater physical strength? Is the weaker person therefore being abused simply because their partner POSSESSES strength no matter how gentle they are?
If Jason doesn’t abuse his power, I don’t have a problem with this. If he does, I do. Just sayin’.
I’m not saying Jason is automatically abusing his power. I’m saying there is automatically a power imbalance. Jason has the option to exercise power in this relationship, and that option – the option to exercise power – is itself ‘power’ in the relationship, which he can’t escape. Consequently, there is a power imbalance.
And of course, that’s not the only way that power can exist in a relationship, and there are bound to be many ways in which Sal is more powerful than Jason in the relationship, but this TA-student relationship is a big one. And again, power doesn’t work on a ‘sum-together-all-the-pieces-of-power-acting-in-which-direction-and-you’re-let-with-the-net-power-imbalance’ basis, because physical strength and relative self-image, for example, are just not comparable – they affect the relationship in completely different ways (or rather, they are distantly-connected components of the relationship).
But my point overall is that power imbalances, intentional or otherwise, are generally bad for a relationship, but that while this isn’t a firm basis on which to judge the strength of a relationship, the level of mutual respect is, and power relationships affect (and include and are affected by) respect – and there’s none coming from Jason.
If anyone’s studying Foucalt, I apologise for the similarities between my explanation of my opinion and his philosophy, which you are no doubt tired of reading. I miss my gender studies course.
When I say that Jason is automatically ‘exercising power’, I mean that ‘having’ is a verb, and so he is exercising the power by having it, even if he doesn’t want to. The power is still affecting the relationship.
AMEN.
I am very sick of people going “it’s all cool and all right because Sal is hot!”
Will the people who hold that position please agree to never, ever, EVER teach children? I mean… ugh.
In the words of my grad student partner, from their work as a T.A. fresh out of undergrad: “you realize very quickly just how young 18 is. These guys are KIDS.”
Oh it is on.
(“It” not being Sal’s top)
Well, this could be a possible explanation for the insatiable demand for state U grads in the employment market. It also sheds some light on the rationale for the naming of this comic.
No wonder Dorothy is trying to get out as fast as she can and escape to the Ivy League
Jason, just lay back and think of baseba….wait……dose that work for the English?
It does not.
It would be Cricket or Rounders.
Rounders is preferable.
Actually, the original phrase is (I believe) lie back and think of England.
Think of Queen of England?
I think it’s more like a very efficient boner killer.
So much so, in fact, that it has its own trope:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LieBackAndThinkOfEngland
actcully no
is an urban myth that thinking about baseball is so (american) men can last longer.
True. All it does it take your mind off the pleasure while it happens. In my experience, the best way to control this issue for reals is to simply slow down.
True, sex is not just about “pistoning” non stop.
I’m happy that it escalated into this. Interested to see if Jason goes with it or if he goes all Danny.
Or maybe Penny will have forgotten something and she’ll come back in.
three some?
Joe sense…. tingling…..
JASON JASON DON’T YOU DARE, SHE’S YOUR STUDENT THAT IS HIGHLY UNETHICAL, JASONNNN!!!
And Sal, this is not appropriate behaviour from a young person.
Isn’t this the first time we’ve actually seen her smile like that?
Checking archived comics tagged with ‘Sal’ in which she smiles… 100% complete.
0 Result(s) found.
I don’t even remember her smiling like that in It’s Walky or Roomies or anything
She’s happier here. No Head Alien that hunting her down all the time. No parents that dragged her around the states every couple months. No “I don’t know Walky is my brother” worries.
Am I the only one who thinks Jason looks like tintin in that last frame?
See?
The South shall rise again.
…which would only work as a double entendre if they were gender-flipped, wouldn’t it. Dang.
His south.
With the help of the British?
But… but… Joe/Everyone NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
WHOAH! I totally bet Jason is going to stop this though, because like the others have said, it’s definitely an ethical no-no.
Best. Tag. Ever.
am i the only person who thinks this is rapey on Sal’s part? i mean, she didn’t even ask him, and he didn’t seem interested.
is… is it because she’s a biker?
Yes, it does seem rapey. If Jason asks her to stop, I think she’d listen, but this is a going a bit beyond appropriateness on her part.
So uh. Where’s the adult fan fiction spin off from this? I need to read it. For science.
Fanfiction? I bet someone already draw the r34 for this already.
Someone did, sure.
I see what you did there….
Sooo when are we getting DoA XXX?
Jason’s expression in the third panel seems oddly calm/curious. “Female student is removing her top and throwing it at my head while making a leading statement. Let’s see where this is going… wait, now she’s on my knee and my shirt’s open. THIS WAS NOT A RESULT I WAS PREPARED FOR.”
Or maybe he’s used to this sort of thing, and the shock is when he realizes that “marks” refer to the bites and scratches he’s going to have to explain in the morning.
Or he already used to this kind of event and it’s Tuesday.
1 Internet says the redheaded TA (too lazy to go back and find her name) walks in next comic because she forgot something and sees them.
Double or nothing that she asks if she can join in.
You don’t know her name? And you call yourself Willis’ fan? Shame on you!
Her name is….
Her name is….
Uh….
*quick check*
Her name is Penny!
….
There!
Tag: Sideboob.
Man, so much to say about today’s comic. Sal has always been hot. Hotness of any female is described on a scale based off of Sal. But this may be about the hottest Sal has ever been. Sideboob. chucking off shirt. Ripping off Jason’s shirt. I think my favorite is how she’s not just straddling him, she’s got one hand lifting up his right leg there…
Nothing will ever be this hot again.
Go Jason/Sal! Live forever! (which never happens while Willis is around.)
Anyone ever just scroll to see whatever David posts here before reading all the comments? It’s like searching for those legendary holographics before going for the rest of the cards.
I do. I do it for every single talkback. I look at his comments and then what he’s commenting on.
I keep forgetting that Willis has his own avatar….
:/
It’s easier than that, just use a Find for David, and boom.
I think Jason just nodded off and is dreaming this; making him realize he has feelings for Sal and making their future interactions akward. With Jason having feelings for Sal and Sal being unaware, just like in Its Walky.
He already realized this. He realized this immediately. So did she.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/hours/ (and the next one)
I’m not saying this is all Joyce’s fault, but it occurs to me: if Joyce hadn’t pushed Sal to get help with her math, this probably wouldn’t have happened.
This is all Joyce’s fault.
I had forgotten about this.
I still think Jason is just dreaming this though.
Man I love the DOA version of Sal. Don’t get me wrong the “ItsWalky” version of Sal is cool but DOA sal is easily one of my favorite characters!!
It will be funny if he wake up with wet sensation in his pants…
Talking about awkward situation.
Oh, Sal, you’ve been missed.
Sooo if he likes her, it’s going to be ok.. ish. If not. Sexual harassment! Woohoo! :/
[Writing this before reading other comments.]
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Oh, the poor girl. If she’d just honestly used the most direct reason it would have been infuriating if he hadn’t gone along with it, but having used the marks attempt he /has/ to refuse on integrity grounds. If he didn’t, it would mean he was actually an alien or serial murderer or someone wearing Jason’s skin like a coat.
That said, if he has any finesse at all, he’ll be able to sardonically smash any hopes of mark altering through this while penetrating (pun maybeish intended?) to the heart of her motivation and seeing the matter through to its end. There’s risk from doing such in a public office, but that’s within his range of acceptability (maybe? Well, since it’s Sal at least).
Not high hopes held regarding finesse, granted…
(And, after a little thought, there’s a voice chirping in the back of my mind that him refusing is, traditionally, what will cement her impression of him as a {good person}/{desirable target}, paving the way for a lasting relationship rather than a fling. Deeply satisfying on one level, deeply frustrating on another. Hm.)
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The tags made me snrk.
I think you’re misinterpreting her comment about marks. She’s saying, “well if my marks are gonna be fucked, I am too!”
That math book in the last panel looks like it’s levitating, or perhaps threw itself out of the way.
Whoa! Oh my!
Shit just got real. But doesn’t Roz/Joe count as being the first DoA pairing to bone?
the pairing on the poll was joe/everyone, so they apparently don’t count
wtf is this link, i wanted a picture of a bird and i got pron
Just wait and you’ll see a big bird soon.
That ass will not be contained.
For a moment there I read it as “That ass will not be contaminated”
so…. not to be…. ionno annoying…? but… did the books and pen go to the right in the first panel and then to the left in the last…?
This is one of those strips (pun intended) that I just pretend didn’t happen while I wait for the return of the story.
Do… people really do this?
I did not see this coming. Without the comments on the previous page I had no idea this would occur. And given this did occur, I cannot believe it is not part of the zany bare-threads continuity of, say, Shortpacked!.
How little self control will this college math professor be seen to have? And how is Sal this unwell?
… How could you do this Sal. I thought we had something. ;_;
Jason needs to get some sun, the boy is like a pasty corpse.
Penny is gonna be SO MAD! Haha, some part of me still wants to see her all crazy and one-eyed, about to kill Jason. F*ck him and then cut him to pieces! First things first.
was I the only one surprised the boobies link actually put out. When i clicked that thing i was expecting it to the bird
you’re not the only one who was upset.
not upset just surprised.
Both hands on the wheel! BOTH HANDS ON THE WHEEL!!!
babies?
Willis, in response to your Tumblr post wondering if people actually take their shirts off in that manner, I do. I do so with the specific intent that they be inside out when I am done. This help protect the silkscreen of my t-shirts while they’re in the wash.
The more you know.
This doesn’t seem quite right…it isn’t like her.
Had that feeling too.
You know, after the whole bit with Penny complaining that she threw herself at Jason, actually did have sex with him, and still wasn’t getting anywhere, this seems particularly odd for Sal to proceed in doing the exact same thing. Especially after having recently read the early Roomies sequence in which her sole defining characteristic was being horny. Isn’t the point of Dumbing to do it better than younger David Willis did? Unless she’s hoping to blackmail and/or bribe Jason into passing her through the class despite her sucking at math? That’s just practical, then, if still somewhat, um, “premarital hanky-panky”.
Wow… I’m actually kinda sad at how predictable this was. I had it in my head that this is how it would go down, where it would go down, in my head since she said she’d be impaled on the pole up his ass. Still, it’s an enjoyable predictable plot point.
Y’know, I really can’t imagine Sal as the type to use her body to get good grades. I had entirely figured this strip as being about her blowing off steam until I read the comments and other folks had come to the conclusion that she was trying to manipulate the TA with sex. She doesn’t seem the type.
Then again, I wouldn’t have figured Sal for the casual sex type other. Shows what I know.
Holy shit! I was just kidding, damn did not see that, all the girls here are un perdictable…but here’s the thing, it was all a dream
“If you want to see a booby, here’s a booby.”
I can’t believe I was disappointed that the picture linked wasn’t a picture of Boris Johnson.
Not gonna lie…….. definitely wish I could be in Jason’s position.
The moment he loosens his bowtie, this happen. Such a sexual force to reckon with.
Galdurnit Sal, hatebanging your TA is going to end poorly somehow. Partially because this comic likes to have drama (which is good) but also because HATEBANGING AUTHORITY FIGURES IS RISKY!!
Only applies if you actually acknowledge that authority exists in the first place. Clearly Sad doth not.
*Sal
I immediately thought of Dracula dead and loving when Renfield was sleeping and the vampire girls started molesting the bed posts: “What ARE you doing the furniture” lol and I read Jason’s lines in Renfields voice…